Stephen A.: 'NO DOUBT' SGA should win MVP over Jokic‼ 'HE HAS MY VOTE!' | First Take

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On First Take, Stephen A. Smith makes the case to Shannon Sharpe why Shai Gilgeous-Alexander of the No. 1 seed Oklahoma City Thunder is more deserving than 2x NBA MVP Nikola Jokic of the Denver Nuggets.
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@mattbedrosian5298
@mattbedrosian5298 Ай бұрын
SAS always says "We know what Jokic is" Yet he never actually talks about what that is. He literally never has. He just uses as a cop out to not talk about him. I have never once heard SAS talk about Jokic's game like he does for 7 minuet segments like he would an Embiid or SGA. The man absolutely hates having to talk about him.
@whodatking26
@whodatking26 Ай бұрын
It's as if he's Darth Vader. He just doesn't wanna talk about him. We all know who he is.
@berryesseen
@berryesseen Ай бұрын
Let me correct that. He hates having to talk about white people's accomplishments. There is no particular hate on Jokic.
@JJ-kj4dy
@JJ-kj4dy Ай бұрын
yea, he too pasty for SGA is what he is
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 Ай бұрын
​@@JJ-kj4dySGA has 38 percent chance to be 2024 NBA MVP.
@racimegacar
@racimegacar Ай бұрын
He is white, SA is racist, conclusion is clear
@Luffy459
@Luffy459 Ай бұрын
When Jokic was winning the MVP, he went for Embiid. Now, Luka and Jokic has better numbers than SGA he’s going for SGA. Stephen shouldn’t have a vote
@dillatronic4757
@dillatronic4757 Ай бұрын
This award is not all about numbers you dumb. Stephen A Smith is right. The second youngest team in the NBA grabbed the first seed. Watch Shai's buzzer against Denver. He owns Jokic there. Luka is a stat padder. He should not even in this conversation.
@ccoolhands
@ccoolhands Ай бұрын
MVP award is not just numbers! Luka has great numbers on a team that was in and out of play in position throughout the whole year. Cut it out!! SGA led his team to the best seed in the conference, without a single star/all-star teammate.
@whodatking26
@whodatking26 Ай бұрын
It's skin color
@JDA89
@JDA89 Ай бұрын
So did Jokic 😂​@@ccoolhands
@Maver1ck101
@Maver1ck101 Ай бұрын
@@ccoolhands Jokic hasn't had an All-Star teammate throughout his career. And Jokic's basic and advanced stats are all better then SGA's, except PPG. And the PPG is an overrated stat. If Jokic took the same amount of shots on average as SGA, there would be no debate.
@Gazik_23
@Gazik_23 Ай бұрын
did this mf actually just said that Jokic needs Jamal Murray but SGA don't care who is on his team on national television?
@DeathFORcameO
@DeathFORcameO Ай бұрын
They talk OKC being the number 1 seed like Denver doesn't have the same win-loss record.
@tonyla_sportstalk7596
@tonyla_sportstalk7596 Ай бұрын
OKc Won the head to head matchup. They beat Denver three times out of four this season.
@BestShootermanUbz
@BestShootermanUbz Ай бұрын
The reason OKC is the first seed is because SGA hit the game winner on Jokic’s team 😂
@morgan2552t
@morgan2552t Ай бұрын
Okc also 3-1 against Denver
@whodatking26
@whodatking26 Ай бұрын
​@@tonyla_sportstalk7596Who's more valuable, Jokic or SGA. If you have to think about that then you have a bias outside of basketball.
@gandalfhodl8723
@gandalfhodl8723 Ай бұрын
@@whodatking26 this season? SGA has been more valuable and that’s okay man. Nobody is saying Jokic isn’t the best player in the world? Y’all really don’t understand the award and it’s scary. There’s a reason Kobe and Bron only have 4, MJ 6. This isn’t the best player in the world award man
@HerrProfM
@HerrProfM Ай бұрын
Stephen A. Smith: If I scream louder than my argument gets stronger. In reality, it is Jokic or Luka.
@johncobraconney7153
@johncobraconney7153 Ай бұрын
Stephen u mentioned thunder being number one seed, but last year denver was by farrrr the number one seed and you voted embiid. you're sus
@nicholassalvador6635
@nicholassalvador6635 Ай бұрын
Stephen A talking so much about shai averaging 30 but never talks about luka leading the league in scoring with 33 or the fact that the mavs were one of the most injured teams in the beginning of the season while okc was healthy the whole season
@DJ_-
@DJ_- Ай бұрын
Stephen A is a hater
@kingdebeoneunplugged5933
@kingdebeoneunplugged5933 Ай бұрын
BEST PLAYER BEST TEAM, U KNOW THE RULES.
@thesix4176
@thesix4176 Ай бұрын
​@@kingdebeoneunplugged5933That will be Tatum then.
@whodatking26
@whodatking26 Ай бұрын
@@kingdebeoneunplugged5933 So JT from Boston wins by that logic
@zukusenryu
@zukusenryu Ай бұрын
Jokić MVP Shai does not have the stats to compare to Jokic 10th in ppg (5th in total) 4th in RPG (3rd in total) 3rd APG (2nd in total) 2nd field goals made 8th in steals 58.3 field goal % 65% true shooting 9th in minutes played 1st in PER 1st in win shares 1st box plus/minus 1st in VORP 1st in PIE 1st in Raptor 2nd in triple doubles On floor +11.6 Off floor -8.4 On/off = +20.0 SGA finished the year off super inconsistent. He had his worst games to finish the year 6 games missed Against the bucks - 23/7/3 33%shooting Against the knicks- 19/2/3 4 turnovers Against the bucks again - 12/3/2 4 turnovers Against Toronto - 23/7/8 with 6 turnovers
@syahrahmana.g.6368
@syahrahmana.g.6368 Ай бұрын
Stephen A just straight up racist there
@davyjoneslocker4859
@davyjoneslocker4859 Ай бұрын
If thats the case against shai winning then luka should get it since his season is individually better than both and his team has 50 plus wins so winning can't be used against luka
@zukusenryu
@zukusenryu Ай бұрын
@@davyjoneslocker4859 what stats are better other than assist per game and points per game? And btw because Jokic played 9 more games he has more assists than Luka in total this year.
@davyjoneslocker4859
@davyjoneslocker4859 Ай бұрын
@zukusenryu jokic is a center so his rebs should be higher by default, it still more impressive for luka to be nearly averaging a triple double. Also, jokic isn't clearing luka that much in advanced metrics either there neck and neck in those tbh
@black24mambakobe
@black24mambakobe Ай бұрын
​@@davyjoneslocker4859no he isn't 😂 shai is better than luka in advanved even...and jokic is MILES ahead
@whodatking26
@whodatking26 Ай бұрын
Stephen "Anyone so long as they arent white" Smith
@truebrowncanadian
@truebrowncanadian Ай бұрын
Nothing to do with race this time, sga is the better player with the better record, luka ballhogs
@chilldoc9638
@chilldoc9638 Ай бұрын
@@truebrowncanadianbetter player? LMAO stop it.
@spikey222audio
@spikey222audio Ай бұрын
@@truebrowncanadianbro what? Luka significantly better that’s not even a question😂
@iornlazer04
@iornlazer04 Ай бұрын
@@truebrowncanadianball hogs. He averages 10 assists. Shai has a bigger ratio of points to assists then luka
@Young-ep8ik
@Young-ep8ik Ай бұрын
@@truebrowncanadian is sga the better player than Jokic? No. Does he have the better record? No. How do you explain that one? SGA is 2nd at best there's no logical argument for him to place higher than both Jokic and Luka.
@FriendFred
@FriendFred Ай бұрын
Stephen A talking about SGA’s season averages as if Luka’s aren’t better is the most criminal thing I’ve ever seen.
@franzhewitt1396
@franzhewitt1396 Ай бұрын
Shia has better defensive rating, higher field gold percentage more efficiency and his team got more wins with less talent
@mdavis3262
@mdavis3262 Ай бұрын
@@franzhewitt1396u said everything
@dpakj989
@dpakj989 Ай бұрын
@@franzhewitt1396 His team has a ton of talent. People downplay the rest of the team just for the sake of narrative.
@jaebuudhatv8514
@jaebuudhatv8514 Ай бұрын
​@@dpakj989yea but their rookies sophmores no veterans
@FriendFred
@FriendFred Ай бұрын
@@franzhewitt1396 Dallas was pretty bad before they made those trades, injuries + Kyrie missed more than 20 games. Okc has been healthy all year and you’re highly underestimating the team they have.
@jackharrist1078
@jackharrist1078 Ай бұрын
The fact that TV hosts like Stephen A, Greenberg, and Wilbon have an MVP vote tells you how unserious the voting system is.
@jasondye9565
@jasondye9565 Ай бұрын
Unserious is taking it lightly
@womenandsonDad
@womenandsonDad Ай бұрын
Not serious people
@cw1229
@cw1229 Ай бұрын
You realize all three guys were well respected journalists before getting on TV right?
@womenandsonDad
@womenandsonDad Ай бұрын
Isn't that a oxymoron? Respected journalist
@romeothompson9389
@romeothompson9389 Ай бұрын
Journalists and media have a say in these awards in every sport though
@votdfak
@votdfak Ай бұрын
In other clip SAS is talking about Lakers tanking/losing game vs Pelicans to go vs SGA and avoiding Joker. In this one he's talking SGA over Joker for MVP. Something's suspect.
@Onemore984
@Onemore984 Ай бұрын
Because it's about facing a proven champ vs young team. Who df would want to face Denver over okc?
@reem9317
@reem9317 Ай бұрын
@@Onemore984you missed his point. He’s highlighting the contradiction in SAS saying SGA should win mvp, yet he believes SGA’s team stands no chance against a bottom team in the playoffs. Young team or not, what kind of MVP is underestimated so carelessly by someone who thinks he should win it?
@countfloydschillerhorrorth2090
@countfloydschillerhorrorth2090 Ай бұрын
@@Onemore984 Don't lose a clue. It's about facing Jokic and what he can do with his team. Which is unheard of since Magic and Bird. Luka is the only other guy who can dominate scoring and passing at the same time.
@dinot115
@dinot115 Ай бұрын
Good point 👍
@Onemore984
@Onemore984 Ай бұрын
@@reem9317 SAS point still stands. His point is that SGA carried this young team to the first seed. It's an easier job for jokic when he has veteran and championship players on his roster.
@leonard1515
@leonard1515 Ай бұрын
I remember when Stephen A was pushing for Tatum to win mvp lmao 😂
@EdwardGGaming
@EdwardGGaming Ай бұрын
Jokic got robbed last year, there is no way that he will get robbed again for MVP this year
@usmcmikeco0651
@usmcmikeco0651 Ай бұрын
He robbed Giannis the year before. so i guess its karma
@devinmartinez7705
@devinmartinez7705 Ай бұрын
Embiid deserved it last year. Jokic was not robbed last year lol
@MM-oz9fh
@MM-oz9fh Ай бұрын
@@devinmartinez7705 yea he was
@Onemore984
@Onemore984 Ай бұрын
Yall be glazing too much on here. Embiid fully deserved his mvp.
@Onemore984
@Onemore984 Ай бұрын
Yall be glazing too much on here. Embiid fully deserved his mvp.
@GruntFrank
@GruntFrank Ай бұрын
At this point SAS is just going by skin color rather than ball skills smh
@swish1457
@swish1457 Ай бұрын
Shai is first seed in the west, Carrying a team full of rookies and plays both great offense and defense. Luka isn't winning mvp get over it. i can't stand you toxic luka fans downplaying others because your statpadding non defense 5th seed merchant won't win mvp. THIS RACE IS BETWEEN SHAI AND JOKIC. Grow up instead of going straight to racism.
@judahwilson6756
@judahwilson6756 Ай бұрын
Well, its something really crazy whatever it is, cause he had jalen brunson over luka
@melanatedgod5337
@melanatedgod5337 Ай бұрын
​@@swish1457full of rookies?! Boy gone. There's only 2 rookies on that team.
@user-pc9oj9ci1r
@user-pc9oj9ci1r Ай бұрын
@@swish1457you are what mental illness sounds like
@J.J.Redick
@J.J.Redick Ай бұрын
it’s ironic bc it’s the white ppl who keep trying to make it about race
@liamnelson6573
@liamnelson6573 Ай бұрын
The fact that this clown has an mvp vote tell you all you need to know about the state of nba media
@spurslegacy
@spurslegacy Ай бұрын
Worst part is there are a lot dumber picks from other media members for a lot of the other rewards. Shits crazy
@user-yr2ib2qg4r
@user-yr2ib2qg4r Ай бұрын
Every time people should and if ever weigh in his wise recommendations - forecasts and other opinions , they first need to listen his LUKA vs Ayton draft video , every time and that thing is not even milk its plastic or some other garbage that soil need 1000 years to process
@barry6768
@barry6768 Ай бұрын
Well said
@nby333
@nby333 Ай бұрын
"This clown" - says some guy sitting at home watching him.
@MrJadude
@MrJadude Ай бұрын
At least hes not as bad as perk
@PatrickRoy30
@PatrickRoy30 Ай бұрын
Gee, we all wonder why SGA got your vote SAS…
@swish1457
@swish1457 Ай бұрын
Because hes first seed in the west, Carrying a team full of rookies and plays both great offense and defense? Luka isn't winning mvp get over it. If not Shai Jokic is winning.
@PatrickRoy30
@PatrickRoy30 Ай бұрын
@@swish1457 team full of rookies? The only rookie in the starting 5 is Chet, and he’s only a rookie by technicality. They have a solid core, haven’t had any injuries, and play good team defense. Just because they’re young doesn’t mean they’re scrubs. I don’t think Doncic should win it either - I just find it comical that SAS will do whatever he can to avoid voting for a white European player for MVP.
@27markoh
@27markoh Ай бұрын
3rd in scoring, tied-1st in steals, 1 number seed in a loaded western conference and he's the oldest player on the team !
@DeathFORcameO
@DeathFORcameO Ай бұрын
​@@27markohthey tied with Denver in win-loss record so being the number 1 seed should not be a factor.
@gdgjjjkkk
@gdgjjjkkk Ай бұрын
@@swish1457bc he’s black
@LuciidDreamz
@LuciidDreamz Ай бұрын
Luka and Jokic BOTH have higher numbers than SGA. Jokic deserves it but Luka is def over SGA atm
@choogafantastic5946
@choogafantastic5946 Ай бұрын
Defense matters, and wins matter too. Out of the 3 only 1 is all NBA on defense he’s also leading the #1 seed that has smashed Denver head to head all year
@TheOneKeyToLife
@TheOneKeyToLife Ай бұрын
Luka disrespect is preposterous at this point. Why do ppl like Stephen A even have a vote 😭
@Asterisks12
@Asterisks12 Ай бұрын
you literally commented on an espn video featuring him, that's one of the reasons he has a vote
@Banana-wu6te
@Banana-wu6te Ай бұрын
Never disrespect in ya opinion Stupid mf
@mathewdavis2427
@mathewdavis2427 Ай бұрын
He's probably watched a total of 4-5 games this season. He should have been fired right away for not even having Luka in his topo 5
@dontbelikecamtv
@dontbelikecamtv Ай бұрын
You act like Luka is a lock for mvp like his team isn’t the 5th seed. SGA and Jokic have great arguments
@4evahodlingdoge226
@4evahodlingdoge226 Ай бұрын
@@dontbelikecamtvHe's also forgeting SGA plays defense while Luka doesn't, Luka complains too much and allows the other team to go 5 vs 4 for my liking.
@lukamarkovic1865
@lukamarkovic1865 Ай бұрын
Shannon with a W take here,its insane that people talk about Sga taking mvp vs Joker.Hes by FAR the most valuable player in the league for years now.Legit makes the offense go.
@robnot49
@robnot49 Ай бұрын
I understand the case for Jokic but to discredit everything Shai has did is crazy he averages a efficient 30 ppg his team is 1st in a stacked western conference when they had like the 10th seed last year not to mention his defense this year has been great also everytime he’s played the nuggets he has outplayed Jokic with his team coming out on top
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 Ай бұрын
​@@robnot49Jokic alone throughout NBA Regular Season averaged 27.81PPG.
@bryarkelley3489
@bryarkelley3489 Ай бұрын
The Nuggets won the finals last year. They been at the top. Shai led his team to the 1 seed with the most competitive western conference we’ve seen in a while when they were barely a play in team last year. And not to mention without him Okc only beat 10-20 win teams
@MrTheHeadlines
@MrTheHeadlines Ай бұрын
I’m tired of the Luka disrespect
@SF48292
@SF48292 Ай бұрын
Hes not winning mvp bud, let it go.
@henrymcdaniel9742
@henrymcdaniel9742 Ай бұрын
@@SF48292 but why not :(
@romellochapman
@romellochapman Ай бұрын
There’s the 5th seed bro.
@akumicobain
@akumicobain Ай бұрын
I’ve watched every mavs game this season. Love luka. He’s not mvp
@henrymcdaniel9742
@henrymcdaniel9742 Ай бұрын
@@romellochapman Russ won the mvp and he was the 6th seed. The first time Jokic won the MVP, he was the 6th seed.
@manueladasilva8492
@manueladasilva8492 Ай бұрын
Enough with the color thing. Lets just talk facts. Most valuable player. okc without shai would survive.denver without jokic would be atrocious
@szazorkan
@szazorkan Ай бұрын
FACTS
@joshuaharmening7750
@joshuaharmening7750 Ай бұрын
Dallas without Luka would be worse than Denver without Jokic, IMHO.
@goatstatusj5112
@goatstatusj5112 Ай бұрын
delusional
@dnairogaines89
@dnairogaines89 Ай бұрын
They were struggling when shai got hurt, quit it
@benedictchua8519
@benedictchua8519 Ай бұрын
Denver without Jokic = championship level role players and vets Okc without shai = a bunch of rookies and guys below 25 yo
@zockey99
@zockey99 Ай бұрын
luka brought mavs up to 5th seed and is averaging 34/9/10 on 50% fg...
@Donnjuantoni3
@Donnjuantoni3 Ай бұрын
No defense.
@kingo4361
@kingo4361 Ай бұрын
@@Donnjuantoni3 being a passing lane merchant isn't good defense
@nfcpablola274
@nfcpablola274 Ай бұрын
Luka is a liability on Defense, , can’t guard a paper bag in a vacuum 📍 SGA average 30 6 n 6 and leads the league in steals 2.1 MJ Numbers 👀
@Donnjuantoni3
@Donnjuantoni3 Ай бұрын
@@kingo4361 top 2 in steals per game isn’t good defense?
@grrrrrrrrr9439
@grrrrrrrrr9439 Ай бұрын
Steals per game doesn't mean anything if the payer miss half of his steals attemps that lead to open shots
@yct2.0
@yct2.0 Ай бұрын
Nikola Jokic is the MVP
@karenboliboli9138
@karenboliboli9138 Ай бұрын
True Nikola mvp
@sbkamara2003
@sbkamara2003 Ай бұрын
Embiid was before he got hurt
@djdarklyceum
@djdarklyceum Ай бұрын
@@sbkamara2003 I'd agree with that.
@romeothompson9389
@romeothompson9389 Ай бұрын
@@sbkamara2003he got hurt so long ago that it really don’t even matter it’s not like he was 50 games in and then got hurt that’s a solid argument but dude got hurt like a quarter of the way into the season it’s a useless point even bringing up his name
@AnonymousUser-ss2qr
@AnonymousUser-ss2qr Ай бұрын
@@karenboliboli9138 No Shai is MVP
@daanishgupta
@daanishgupta Ай бұрын
Luka could average 50/50/50 and still lose.😂
@rahimmartin242
@rahimmartin242 Ай бұрын
LUKA has always been put on a higher standard since he came in the league 🤷🏽‍♂️
@racimegacar
@racimegacar Ай бұрын
Point is team, not Luka, when he figures that he will win MVP
@AnonymousUser-ss2qr
@AnonymousUser-ss2qr Ай бұрын
Luka will get 2nd most votes. Jokic due to advanced analytics wins. He doesn't deserve it but nerds voting will give it to him.
@TheStrawThatStirsTheDrink
@TheStrawThatStirsTheDrink Ай бұрын
50 assists = 100 points minimum already if his teammates dont shoot threes. Add the 50 points thats already 150. Add the 50 rebounds most of them are defensive so it stops the other team from scoring... My god You dont know much about Math do you, let alone the game? I cant even imagine what your SAT score must be, if you even have one. I'm all for humor but some things are just flat out Dumb.
@racimegacar
@racimegacar Ай бұрын
@@AnonymousUser-ss2qr Nerds?! If u watch advanced stats?! What the hell they supposed to watch, it's all statistics?! Maybe Instagram popularity, or who eat more burgers for 10 min...
@brxndaveli5834
@brxndaveli5834 Ай бұрын
Why tf does Stephen A keep trying to use career high stats like that has anything to do w others? Lol he also keep saying 2.1 steals a game? Bro cmon no one is winning a league mvp for 2.1 steals. He also brings up stats that are litterally behind Luka and Jokic…take this mans vote away
@Zungentruppen
@Zungentruppen Ай бұрын
SGA is disqualified from being MVP, when OKC was down by 13, SGA intentionally fouled so he could get a last second shot to get his 30 points, there's no greater argument of stat padding than that.
@masongreen1371
@masongreen1371 Ай бұрын
Russ was doing similar things when he got his MVP. Even worse actually.
@torrancebickham6386
@torrancebickham6386 Ай бұрын
Luka does the same stuff. They were up 23 and he needed one rebound to get a triple double wit 3 min left in the game . He got it then they subbed him out
@Insomnia99530
@Insomnia99530 Ай бұрын
Shaq also pick Shai over Luka and Jokic they cant accept that Europeans running the NBA
@ezekwu
@ezekwu Ай бұрын
europeans only 'run" the nba because of rule changes...
@gabrielgreer2493
@gabrielgreer2493 Ай бұрын
SAS has to surrender his vote. He votes for whoever the best "black"player is and He's getting away with this garbage.
@Yoofen
@Yoofen Ай бұрын
The A in stephan A smith stands for "anyone but an european for MVP"
@ludnqka
@ludnqka Ай бұрын
at this point i wanna see SGA get the MVP and get swept by Luka in the second round.
@MrTheHeadlines
@MrTheHeadlines Ай бұрын
Facts
@leroyjenkins5345
@leroyjenkins5345 Ай бұрын
Lukas gotta actually beat the clippers for once
@tombystander
@tombystander Ай бұрын
Swept? Cmon now
@swish1457
@swish1457 Ай бұрын
Shai is first seed in the west, Carrying a team full of rookies and plays both great offense and defense. Luka isn't winning mvp get over it. i can't stand you toxic luka fans downplaying others because your statpadding non defense 5th seed merchant won't win mvp. THIS RACE IS BETWEEN SHAI AND JOKIC. Grow up instead of going straight to racism.
@SK99900
@SK99900 Ай бұрын
Mavs will smoke OKC in 5 games we saw what happened after PJ/Gafford trade Mavs blew them out by 50
@adityaswamy5657
@adityaswamy5657 Ай бұрын
Stephen A: 30.9 points in game-changing from Shai Luka: That's a bad night for me
@dillatronic4757
@dillatronic4757 Ай бұрын
Shai wins game whereas Luka chokes. His team has a 30-0 run against OKC and still couldn't close it.
@adityaswamy5657
@adityaswamy5657 Ай бұрын
@@dillatronic4757 Yea Shai can win with Chet Holmgren, JDub, and his whole cast playing for the whole season. Luka only has Kyrie and has not had him for 24 games, so Luka has had to carry the Mavs for that many games, and there is only a difference of 7 wins here. Shai is good, but Luka is just better. Shai could never carry his team, he needs support.
@aggghgaabk
@aggghgaabk Ай бұрын
Okay but when u have stats like Shais leading the one seed is a lot different than having slightly better stats on a 5th seed… plus Shai is leading a younger and less experienced team…. Plus he has way better defense and is way more efficient.
@dillatronic4757
@dillatronic4757 Ай бұрын
@@adityaswamy5657 Luka is great but this is a team sport. I don't expect that you'll understand about this
@adityaswamy5657
@adityaswamy5657 Ай бұрын
@@dillatronic4757 Is this an award for best team? I don't expect you to understand simple english.
@dimitrijetucovic1307
@dimitrijetucovic1307 Ай бұрын
Stephen A thinks if you're being loud, you're making a good arguement.
@EAGLES_1991
@EAGLES_1991 Ай бұрын
Is even worse when you’re not a top three team in the west but one sounds great SGA
@jp23x
@jp23x Ай бұрын
Bruh wasn't this clown pushing Jason Tatum for MVP. Smh.
@MalikFrost12
@MalikFrost12 Ай бұрын
SGA winning MVP because of haveing the first seed is just silly. If best seed was that important, Paul Milsap, Al Horford, or Jeff Teague would be an MVP since the Hawks got the 1st seed. That same year that Atlanta Hawks team got swept in the playoffs fully healthy 😂
@dnairogaines89
@dnairogaines89 Ай бұрын
Those guys didn't average 30 or lead the league in steals, so that's a bad point you just made
@johncobraconney7153
@johncobraconney7153 Ай бұрын
All im going to say is Luka Doncic season stats are much higher than SGA's stats. Luka has played better. And im an sga fan.
@johncobraconney7153
@johncobraconney7153 Ай бұрын
Luka Doncic average stats per game this season: 33.9 ppg 9.2 reb 9.8 ast (1st place in points 2nd place in ast) SGA average stats per game this season: 30.1 ppg 5.5 reb 6.2 ast Luka outscored SGA and has almost DOUBLED his rebounds and assists.
@johncobraconney7153
@johncobraconney7153 Ай бұрын
That is basically a 34 point triple double averaged for the season for Luka. If kevin durant averaged that he'd be looked at as the second coming of MJ
@goatstatusj5112
@goatstatusj5112 Ай бұрын
undercover luka fanboy.... you not fooling nobody...
@zambrogue136
@zambrogue136 Ай бұрын
You are trying to convince yoursel lol......
@supernotnatural
@supernotnatural Ай бұрын
In stats, SGA doesnt beat Jokic or Luka Doncic in ANY STAT.
@aggghgaabk
@aggghgaabk Ай бұрын
Ppg… steals…. Efficiency… and record brodie
@LegalLatinoHeat
@LegalLatinoHeat Ай бұрын
Stephen A Racist. Smith cant pick the White Men Jokic or Luka.
@ike_SYO1592
@ike_SYO1592 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@phxmiller
@phxmiller Ай бұрын
He can pick whoever he wants to pick.
@NotGobKnocker96
@NotGobKnocker96 Ай бұрын
@@phxmillershut up
@mrtony0605891
@mrtony0605891 Ай бұрын
A Black man can't be racist in a country where he has no power or privilege
@swish1457
@swish1457 Ай бұрын
Shai is first seed in the west, Carrying a team full of rookies and plays both great offense and defense. Luka isn't winning mvp get over it. i can't stand you toxic luka fans downplaying others because your statpadding non defense 5th seed merchant won't win mvp. THIS RACE IS BETWEEN SHAI AND JOKIC. Grow up instead of going straight to racism.
@patepic1046
@patepic1046 Ай бұрын
Luka not wining mvp is bs
@madhands9887
@madhands9887 Ай бұрын
How
@maxso3256
@maxso3256 Ай бұрын
@@madhands9887 He's averaging 34/9/10 maybe? Should be a lock for mvp
@taku5309
@taku5309 Ай бұрын
@@maxso3256 Jokic is 27 12 9 , better record , best per , best plus minus , better impact wdym its a lock?
@tayloradamson7623
@tayloradamson7623 Ай бұрын
@@maxso3256it’s not a individual award you tool 😂
@Neofilmcritic
@Neofilmcritic Ай бұрын
He’s not the MVP. It’s Jokic
@kevonstrachan7059
@kevonstrachan7059 Ай бұрын
Stephen A Smith having a vote is a scary site and should be studied, addressed and revoked considering the fact that he believes Quentin grimes plays for the Knicks and Isaiah hartenstein is coming off the bench.
@sydsubin2184
@sydsubin2184 Ай бұрын
The Luka disrespect is unreal
@ssekyewacharles7313
@ssekyewacharles7313 Ай бұрын
Stephen A ignored all this explanation when he was telling the world Tatum was the mvp
@codedsoul7360
@codedsoul7360 Ай бұрын
The fact that this 🤡 has a vote is crazy
@theape6778
@theape6778 Ай бұрын
SAS and foreign player beef is hilarious at this point. Bet he's in shambles Tatum and Ant both tapered off
@davyjoneslocker4859
@davyjoneslocker4859 Ай бұрын
Shai's Canadian so he's foreign too lol
@theape6778
@theape6778 Ай бұрын
@@davyjoneslocker4859 should've specified European haha
@Boggggggg
@Boggggggg Ай бұрын
Correct me if i am wrong but yokic was no1 seed and not Embid,they robbed Yokic last year but this year wont 😂😂
@malachi975
@malachi975 Ай бұрын
The argument with SGA is always the scoring
@nfcpablola274
@nfcpablola274 Ай бұрын
Luka is a liability on Defense, , can’t guard a paper bag 📍 SGA average 30 6 n 6 and leads the league in steals 2.1 MJ Numbers 👀
@JosemiPR
@JosemiPR Ай бұрын
@@nfcpablola274that’s cap lmao Luka is #8 in steals while averaging a 34 pt triple double
@bryanponce5919
@bryanponce5919 Ай бұрын
@@nfcpablola274sorry to burst your bubble but fox is #1 in steals not SGA
@melanatedgod5337
@melanatedgod5337 Ай бұрын
​@@nfcpablola274top 10 in steals and he doesn't play defense? Shows how much you watch the Mavs.
@RightStickRob
@RightStickRob Ай бұрын
@@nfcpablola274 Luka Post defense: ranks #1 at 0.55PPP Iso defense: ranks #10 at 0.79PPP Spot up defense: ranks #5 at 0.98PPP I’m not gonna sit up here and say Luka is a great defender, but this narrative about him being a horrible one has to stop
@oskrrr4836
@oskrrr4836 Ай бұрын
It's not a league run media, Its a media run league🤣
@trevorhandberry2158
@trevorhandberry2158 Ай бұрын
LUKA disrespect to disgusting. Seriously fam
@bear458ziif-s
@bear458ziif-s Ай бұрын
stephen a always hates on european players. if wemby became the best player in the league he would find a way to say he isn't.
@yisroelkonovitch
@yisroelkonovitch Ай бұрын
There was that one weak he said luka he’s said joker most of the time And now it’s shai 😭so rigged it’s crazy
@bondinho6114
@bondinho6114 Ай бұрын
He never said Luka and Jokic, he said Jayson Tatum 3 weeks ago for crying out loud
@byers31303
@byers31303 Ай бұрын
I don't think he's ever ONCE said Jokic, at ANY point of the 4 years he's deserved it. It's pretty clear he has some sort of bias...
@yisroelkonovitch
@yisroelkonovitch Ай бұрын
@@byers31303 yeah u right
@gametime2473
@gametime2473 Ай бұрын
It is ridiculous to put SGA above Luka. So annoying. If Luka beats Jokic for MVP I can get with that but NO WAY SGA.
@Mr.Byrnes
@Mr.Byrnes Ай бұрын
You’ll cry when SGA wins, huh? 😅
@gametime2473
@gametime2473 Ай бұрын
@@Mr.Byrnes You are looking for attention. Well, I just gave you some. I don't care who wins MVP but I also think it should be a sensible and fair process.
@Magpeccs
@Magpeccs Ай бұрын
Luka is averaging more points, rebounds and assists and doing more with less. How exactly is shai more deserving? This is pure comedy
@nfcpablola274
@nfcpablola274 Ай бұрын
Luka is a liability on Defense, , can’t guard a paper bag in a vacuum 📍 SGA average 31 6 n 6 and leads the league in steals 2.1 MJ Numbers 👀 2nd youngest team in the league with no other player who averages over 20 on there team , kyrie can give ya 26 every night
@nfcpablola274
@nfcpablola274 Ай бұрын
So Kyrie is less 😂😂 you funny
@madhands9887
@madhands9887 Ай бұрын
Did you miss all the defensive stuff lol that’s why their first. How is he doing more with less when he has an all star and champion with Kyrie and Shai has rookies and 20 year olds. lol you need to learn about basketball
@bareit6861
@bareit6861 Ай бұрын
@@nfcpablola274WEAK ASSESSMENT FOX IS TOP 1 in steal per game in the season SGA IS TOP 2 THE NO DEFENSE YOU SAID LUKA IS TOP 8 in steals per game this season LUKA GOT 33.9 POINTS PER GAME 9.8 assists 9.2 rebounds more than MJ and of course your MVP SGA 2nd in MJ STATS WISE LUKA IS WAY BETTER almost TOP 15 in all categories except blocks THE ONLY REASON SGA IS LOVE BY MEDIA BECAUSE HE IS AN AMERICAN-CANADIAN IF HIS NOT HE WOULD BE TOP 8 in MVP SEEDING IF THE MVP IS GIVEN TO A BEST PLAYER ON THE BEST TEAM JAYSON TATUM DESERVE BUT IF WE ARE TALKING MVP IN A THE SEASON IT SHOULD BE LUKA HISTORICALLY STATS SUPPORTS IT. 50 win luka vs SGA 57 wins thats is lame for an mvp just because he is an half American the media in the US wants him to win facts for an American like you who keep on pushing your mvp
@seanw4661
@seanw4661 Ай бұрын
Shai don’t got nobody on his team better then Kyrie 😭
@pg13pacernation30
@pg13pacernation30 Ай бұрын
Argue debate whatever Joker winning it at the end 😂
@tarikmahmud8334
@tarikmahmud8334 Ай бұрын
The fact that this Stephen A guy is a hypocrite guy acting on his own agenda should be clear. First Jayson Tatum and now SGA? Did he just abandon tatum just because he lost to denver? He is still the best player of the best team. So why not him? Because this guy knows campaigning for tatum won't make Tatum the MVP now. But it just might for Shae. This guy doesn't really want SGA or Tatum to be MVP. He just wants Joker or Luka to not win it.
@DrSlipperyFist
@DrSlipperyFist Ай бұрын
Lukas numbers were crazy this year.
@johncobraconney7153
@johncobraconney7153 Ай бұрын
kind of mind blowing. He basically averaged a 34 pt triple double all year
@thomasparker2447
@thomasparker2447 Ай бұрын
You don't need any "argument" for SGA over Joker; anyone can see that SGA passes the complexion test and Joker doesn't. In Stephen A's world, it's as simple as that.
@Junnniorr
@Junnniorr Ай бұрын
I need my ones with the ppl voting for Jokic
@AudiA6Q
@AudiA6Q Ай бұрын
Luka is the real MVP
@O.J.S.
@O.J.S. Ай бұрын
....of the Dallas Mavericks.
@ToniCroX
@ToniCroX Ай бұрын
Funny how Luka evaporated into the vacuum of outer space suddenly...
@gojkotomil
@gojkotomil Ай бұрын
Preach on, brother Shannon!
@blrrich1051
@blrrich1051 Ай бұрын
does anyone know which team performs better without their star player? okc, denver, or mavs?
@jaceygaither2581
@jaceygaither2581 Ай бұрын
Nuggets are 20 points/100 possessions worse without Joker, OKC is -11.4 without Shai, Mavs are -9.4 without Luka. So the Nuggets are the best team of the 3 with Jokic and the worst when he sits compared to Shai and Luka. On/off numbers aren't the only thing that matters but based on team performance Jokic is the MVP by far.
@SSJRome
@SSJRome Ай бұрын
I don’t think there’s a wrong answer between the candidates , it really just depends on who you like.
@darshilshah2728
@darshilshah2728 Ай бұрын
And that’s your opinion, the facts are 1 Jokic, 2 Luka and 3 SGA
@SSJRome
@SSJRome Ай бұрын
@@darshilshah2728 lol respond to my opinion with an opinion how nice
@Mr.Byrnes
@Mr.Byrnes Ай бұрын
@@darshilshah2728terrible take, garbage even
@ryry1981
@ryry1981 Ай бұрын
Why all the hate on the Thunder?
@goatstatusj5112
@goatstatusj5112 Ай бұрын
luka/jokic fanbums are the reason....
@deancoleman6098
@deancoleman6098 Ай бұрын
@@goatstatusj5112just luka. We don’t care if jokic wins
@LeonarRonquillo
@LeonarRonquillo Ай бұрын
No one is hating Thunder. It's these dum dums like SAS whose criteria for voting is very skewed and biased. SGA is good and all but Luka arguably done more with less this season, hence MVP.
@snandrew6094
@snandrew6094 Ай бұрын
The main reason people hate on the Thunder right now is because the majority of fans think that Shai is being put in conversations he doesn't belong in. He's a great player but he is not Jokic, Luka, and Embiid level and yet the media are hyping him up to be MVP when he is clearly a level below those three players mentioned. To put it simply most people think he's slightly overrated and the media are giving him way too much attention, as well as an undeserved level of MVP consideration.
@kylianmbappe6969
@kylianmbappe6969 Ай бұрын
@@snandrew6094 Idk if calling Shai "slightly overrated" is correct in this scenario, he's where he's at cause he has done what he has done. You can say Kawhi is overrated if people are putting him as MVP candidate though. You might want to look up the meaning of 'overrated' before you use it the next time mate.
@kurtishair24
@kurtishair24 Ай бұрын
OKC fan here. Honestly think this has been one of the best races in a while. Shai has been incredible this year & a lot of casuals been throwing a lot of dumb criticisms his was. That being said. It’s Joker imo. I do think Shai & OKC deserve a lot of credit regardless of what happens in the postseason.
@ChickenOfTheCaveMan
@ChickenOfTheCaveMan Ай бұрын
It's sad that a guy that doesn't watch the games has a vote, youngest team, who cares, career high, who cares. That's not what the award is about.
@bassman1977
@bassman1977 Ай бұрын
Luka by far!
@SF48292
@SF48292 Ай бұрын
he Doesn't play defense clown. SGA or jokic for mvp
@DJ_-
@DJ_- Ай бұрын
Jokic should win it he literally the best player in the nba
@johncobraconney7153
@johncobraconney7153 Ай бұрын
agreed i think luka earned MVP this year. Last year i voted embiid.
@Posterharpua
@Posterharpua Ай бұрын
I'm a big SGA fan and this is not a knock on him. I try to stay away from the race-baiting stuff but I am really beginning to think Stephen A just doesn't like white or european players. He picked SGA many weeks ago to win MVP and never once considered Luka a real MVP candidate. Whatever you think of Luka/Jokic, it's foolish to not have a serious look at them before crowning SGA which is what SAS did a long time ago. Jokic and Luka, imo are the 1 and 2 respectively. I have no problem with anyone picking SGA as MVP - he's the best player on the top seed - but to pre-ordain him like Stephen A has done is suspect. I think he is biased against Euros/white guys.
@Frolsa84
@Frolsa84 Ай бұрын
Out of 18 votes cast so far, we know that Jokic has 15 first place votes, SGA 2 and Doncic 1. It's pretty much over, Jokic is the MVP.
@PedroJr17
@PedroJr17 Ай бұрын
34/9/10 (SGA - 30/5/6) 21 triple doubles (SGA - 0) 50 30pt games in 70 games (SGA - 51 in 75) I'm not even going to talk about 35pt, 40pt, 50pt, 60pt and 70pt games. I don't think I need to tell you who I'm talking about, and I think this ends the discussion right there.
@martinflores7354
@martinflores7354 Ай бұрын
GO MAVS
@andrijavirke
@andrijavirke Ай бұрын
what a clown. I can not imagine him having friends.
@nanox4
@nanox4 Ай бұрын
I'm sure he doesn't lol. He looks like a guy who pays to f.
@arlenjanis1388
@arlenjanis1388 Ай бұрын
Stephen a.. wasn’t complaining when Giannis was winning or when harden won. He don’t like when a light skinned person wins.
@re11o
@re11o Ай бұрын
This my favorite MVP race. It’s a shame the odds are that apart
@user-rd5ye5jn9y
@user-rd5ye5jn9y Ай бұрын
LUKA
@krl7316
@krl7316 Ай бұрын
Its real simple for anyone not biased: 1. Jokic 2. Doncic 3. SGA
@Bars11_
@Bars11_ Ай бұрын
Does SGA have a better supporting cast than Jokic and Luka?...if the answer is no, then you have to appreciate the consistency and dominance he showcased to put his team at the top of the toughest conference. (The Real Most Valuable Player)
@brandoblack7318
@brandoblack7318 Ай бұрын
SGA FOR MVP !
@tylermartinmusic
@tylermartinmusic Ай бұрын
No mention of Luka once again. Absolutely disgraceful of ESPN
@charlesc.b2435
@charlesc.b2435 Ай бұрын
SGA DESERVES MVP, SGA is not only the better player all around compared to Luka he is leading a young team group and he plays both sides of the ball….Get that Luka 💩TF outta here please.
@samonapred
@samonapred Ай бұрын
JOKER MVP
@DJ_-
@DJ_- Ай бұрын
He should be he literally the best player in the nba
@levinen
@levinen Ай бұрын
Leading a team to a 1 seed OVER the team with Joker gotta count for something
@Serenity01871
@Serenity01871 Ай бұрын
they had the same record they had no injuries and they want it not as the nuggets but still of course its crazy good but he is not near to luka and jokic there are 2 gaps between them. sga is just a scorer with ft not someone who makes a teammate better he is just like pg13 mitchell etc a scorer
@Serenity01871
@Serenity01871 Ай бұрын
how many nba player have 26 to 30ppg and 5 5
@gamergokugt
@gamergokugt Ай бұрын
@@Serenity01871how many nba players in history average 26 12 and 9?
@strontium2955
@strontium2955 Ай бұрын
This hard push we've been seeing and are seeing from so many for SGA to win MVP even though he's clearly not on Jokic or Luka's level amounts to please please don't give it to a white player, they better not give it to a white player again. It's absolutely disgusting
@NugLife219
@NugLife219 Ай бұрын
It’s like they have a meeting in the back and draw from a hat who is gonna be the one who speaks against Jokic for MVP.. and Stephen A won this year!
@Juimango40
@Juimango40 Ай бұрын
If Jokic wins MVP it will be the least deserving MVP in NBA History. And if you disagree with me then you’re objectively wrong. I don’t even need to explain myself.
@adeadele-nz6xt
@adeadele-nz6xt Ай бұрын
SGA MVP for sure . Sga , luka , jokic .
@jasongaines7284
@jasongaines7284 Ай бұрын
This is simple it’s SGA. #1 Team, #2 in PPG, and #1 in steals. The other two don’t even play Defense. Just new versions of James Harden.
@slobodanstojanovic8125
@slobodanstojanovic8125 Ай бұрын
"Yeahhhhhh" lol
@robertmeadows2450
@robertmeadows2450 Ай бұрын
The Thunder weren’t supposed to be THIS good this year. No one had them finishing as the number 1 seed. SGA should be the MVP.
@Serenity01871
@Serenity01871 Ай бұрын
he scores but also have great teammates everyone speaks jdub and chet down they are elite no matter how young what has it to do with skill look at wemby or lebron rookie
@yisroelkonovitch
@yisroelkonovitch Ай бұрын
Mavs weren’t supposed make the playoffs
@MichaelDeLaRosa
@MichaelDeLaRosa Ай бұрын
1 seed doesn’t matter for mvp case since Thunder are tied with the nuggets for overall record. It would be different if they were up by a game or more
@judahwilson6756
@judahwilson6756 Ай бұрын
its not chet?
@swish1457
@swish1457 Ай бұрын
@@yisroelkonovitch 5th seed
@chitweak18
@chitweak18 Ай бұрын
"Made em look like Rudy from Fat Albert". 🤣🤣😂💀
@ImTheRealDeal
@ImTheRealDeal Ай бұрын
Luka over SGA for sure I’d put Luka 1st because of stats, Giannis 2nd because of his historic season, SGA 3rd because of of points and team ranking, Jokic 4th because of stats which are less than everyone’s I just named
@opinion357
@opinion357 Ай бұрын
SGA deserves to be the MVP!
@vashthestampede9269
@vashthestampede9269 Ай бұрын
SGA for MVP
@Magpeccs
@Magpeccs Ай бұрын
Delusional just like screamin a
@SSFFRRJJ
@SSFFRRJJ Ай бұрын
God we are lucky to have Unc Shannon on First Take
@haqq1
@haqq1 Ай бұрын
2022 grizlies were a young team that finished second in the West, but Ja wasnt even in the MVP conversation. OKC deserves the coach of the year not the MVP.
@dnairogaines89
@dnairogaines89 Ай бұрын
2nd seed is not 1st seed
@haqq1
@haqq1 Ай бұрын
@@dnairogaines89 the MVP case for SGA was made for the entire year not ONLY when the OKC was number 1. Not to mention historically top 3 seeds were the finalists for MVP not strictly number 1 seed...
@dnairogaines89
@dnairogaines89 Ай бұрын
@@haqq1 it’s not just about the number 1 seed, he averaged 30 while doing it with the 2nd youngest team in the stacked west
@haqq1
@haqq1 Ай бұрын
@@dnairogaines89 there is no doubt SGA is doing more than what Ja did for grizzlies. I used the grizzlies example to shut down the narrative that SGA is responsble for carryng the youngest team to the first seed. OKC established a great system in whch SGA is a massive factor. But Luka and Jokic ARE the system. They have contributed more to their teams position than SGA.
@atmos4641
@atmos4641 Ай бұрын
Last season the bucks were the 1st seed and Giannis was having a great season and he was 3rd on the MVP votes but now once they have a player they like, they change the narrative of the MVP Trophy.
@30willecke
@30willecke Ай бұрын
It should be Luka... if it weren't for injuries at the first half of the season, Mavs could easily have been in a top 2-4 seed.
@AVAXII
@AVAXII Ай бұрын
Was this another "Jokic is great and all that, but let me tell y'all something, this brother SGA, he is special, and I mean special"
@PedroJr17
@PedroJr17 Ай бұрын
1. Luka 2. Jokic 3. Giannis 4. SGA 5. AE/Brunson/Tatum
@CampaignerSC
@CampaignerSC Ай бұрын
4:19 Shannon's the best 😂
@user-dn5qo6cg5w
@user-dn5qo6cg5w Ай бұрын
Epic hairline battle.
@a.n.t.podcast9320
@a.n.t.podcast9320 Ай бұрын
Excellent points Stephen A
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