Stephen Fry Munk Debate Clips on Political Correctness

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Stephen Fry clips from the Munk Debate.
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@Szaam
@Szaam 4 жыл бұрын
"You can answer me in a moment." That is the most upper-class English way of saying 'let me finish'.
@timidtornado2869
@timidtornado2869 4 жыл бұрын
Seems he should take his own advice. I get it , his mind is running, but, let the other person finish.
@timidtornado2869
@timidtornado2869 4 жыл бұрын
@Detective L I did. And I also have a problem when I need" to get my point out, even as they keep evolving in my mind. It's worse when I seize on a point and need to interject. This is where I had to learn to put my tongue to the roof of my mouth....now what should I do with my typing fingers....
@timidtornado2869
@timidtornado2869 4 жыл бұрын
@Detective L - listened to it all - but still felt his internal battle with the topic caused him to talk over his opponent. Its clear, his command of the language outstripped hers but that would dictate more patience on his side....just my observation...its all good
@MissBlennerhassett876
@MissBlennerhassett876 2 жыл бұрын
@@timidtornado2869 It was a rhetorical question. His mind wasn't running.
@patrickwalsh6240
@patrickwalsh6240 2 жыл бұрын
@@timidtornado2869 The debate has been edited so as to show only what Stephen Fry said. Hence the title of the video.
@jessebrown1996
@jessebrown1996 6 жыл бұрын
Stephen Fry is proof that calm, rational and reasonable heads will always prevail, I'm glad we have left leaning people like him pointing out the flaws in PC culture, as I feel like we don't have enough (well known) left leaning people who stand up to it.
@josephdavies5075
@josephdavies5075 4 жыл бұрын
He's on his own, he's not hard left because he's always been round money. If Stephen fry was master of the universe then I'd be happy at rationality winning, all I can see is more depravation and irrationality prevailing
@martinae8601
@martinae8601 2 жыл бұрын
Well were Stephen Fry falls short (whom I deeply admire btw. ) is where this cancel culture debate is coming from. People who know youtube and internet culture know about gamer gate and how the right and the sceptics created this big spectacle of the offended left. With every game-review of a gamer who said "it would be nice if you could play a female character that is less objectified to the male gaze" ten videos sprung up with outrage that feminazis want to ban the said game and on and on. It became youtube culture and youtube money to make videos on over the top feminist outrage and it found it's way to even serious newspapers. Well in fact, where there are clearly some terrible twitter storms (augmented by trolls and bots), in real life, cancellation was mostly about not giving a platform to hate speech or scientific lies. (Do we need a climate-change denier on every panel when we know by fact that he's in the wrong, or can we talk about different ways to deal with it?) Which is valid. Civil discussion on the left is alive and well, it's the right who claim victimhood while simultaneously working on taking away womens rights and rights of racial and sexual minorities away.
@raymondmassie4898
@raymondmassie4898 2 жыл бұрын
Stephen Fry, the voice of reason once again.
@Make_Boxing_Great_Again
@Make_Boxing_Great_Again 2 жыл бұрын
@@martinae8601 If you want to convince someone you need to use facts and not opinions. “10 videos sprung up with outrage” Where is your evidence of the ratio of such videos. Capitalism doesn’t discriminate against sex or race, only against the poor. If you don’t hire the best people or sell to as many people as possible or explore every niche market there is then you will fail. Yes we do need a climate change denier on climate change panels so that he/she can be well and truly demolished in a civil and rational evidence based discussions and debate. Cancelling people breeds further dissent and divisions from mainstream culture. Trump arose from a complete lack of trust in institutions, it’s time we demolish pc culture and bring back respect in those institutions.
@kennethcrowther2277
@kennethcrowther2277 2 жыл бұрын
@@martinae8601 I can see you really believe that, and there is no doubt that right, so to speak, (left and right are such over used and simplifying terms in a current western cultural debates) does its fair share of demonizing and sensationalising and looking for left wing tyranny where none may exist specifically, but the way you see it is very unbalanced and equally slanted to your leftist perspective. Everything you just mentioned regarding what the right rails against are genuine and valid criticisms and objections. Unfortunately on both the left and the right there are too many impassioned people motivated to point towards and
@rswightman
@rswightman 2 жыл бұрын
Stephen Fry is far more than a national treasure, he's a treasure for humanity.
@peacemaker6662
@peacemaker6662 2 жыл бұрын
I suggest you read his books. They didn't disappoint me :-)
@EvilSean62
@EvilSean62 2 жыл бұрын
hyperbole ... ironically mr fry would defer i do concur but i suspect the act would offend him morally with a shy wave of the emotional fan he is ...for me ... perfect for the role as he has no embodiment of righteousness rather one of nervous doubt nonetheless backed up almost to a point on his emphatic moments with solid common sense which i applaud deeply
@2earache
@2earache 2 жыл бұрын
Richard Wightman…….well, so much for kicking PC in the pants! You have just (consciously and willingly) licked the boots of this man who is attempting to ‘save us all’ from the unsavoury grip of the frequency of society’s use of political correctness!
@andrewkimber3399
@andrewkimber3399 2 жыл бұрын
@@peacemaker6662 iii
@Kirstinevad
@Kirstinevad 5 ай бұрын
Dane here. Totally agree! 😀👍🌱
@lewishurst7919
@lewishurst7919 3 жыл бұрын
It's so rare nowadays to see someone approach a political debate as a chance to have a genuine interesting conversation rather than a point scoring sport-like contest
@1SpudderR
@1SpudderR 2 жыл бұрын
H’mmmm? He fooled you....He has an agenda.....but just what it is .....? Quiet Domination one suspects!
@mikearchibald744
@mikearchibald744 2 жыл бұрын
Thats partly the fault of debating itself, which is exactly that. THis is why post secondary education is so imporant, people who have never been there, or only exposed to BAD ones, think that MORE indoctrination goes on there, but its in fact where the indoctrination of public school is broken down.
@RealFemale69
@RealFemale69 Жыл бұрын
Don't watch many debates, eh?
@Arun-nv8zi
@Arun-nv8zi 6 жыл бұрын
Wonderful, Mr Fry.
@fergusbyett8088
@fergusbyett8088 3 жыл бұрын
Fry was sensational, at times almost debating three others simultaneously, trying to converse with the other side while also trying to dodge Peterson's political sleight of hand. His arguments are razor sharp and efficient, no intellectual faff, just straight to the point and full of good humour and humility. Long live Stephen Fry
@PoldarkGodzilla
@PoldarkGodzilla 2 жыл бұрын
Dyson was awful.. Race hustler, and goldberg 🤢
@DaveTerrasidio
@DaveTerrasidio 2 жыл бұрын
hear hear!
@ryancox3834
@ryancox3834 2 жыл бұрын
Seem to not have seen or heard much of him in recent times since leaving QI and it deeply saddens me.
@geoffpoole483
@geoffpoole483 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryancox3834 Probably flounced off Twitter. Being well-spoken does not make one an intellectual.
@ryancox3834
@ryancox3834 2 жыл бұрын
@@geoffpoole483 fry is an incredible intellectual. It cannot be disputed.
@broms316
@broms316 5 жыл бұрын
I was watching MMA but switched over to watch Stephen Fry in this..... much more brutal.
@steviebenjafield
@steviebenjafield 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, I went from watching a Robert Whittaker highlight package to this.
@luckyluciano6093
@luckyluciano6093 2 жыл бұрын
LOL I was watching Ngannou vs Gane highlights from last night
@mikearchibald744
@mikearchibald744 2 жыл бұрын
LOL!
@robg71
@robg71 2 жыл бұрын
A good rule of thumb, If Stephen Fry is on the opposite team, You're on the wrong team!
@nacarreira777
@nacarreira777 5 жыл бұрын
Stephen Fry is a lovely human being.
@hrafnkellhelgason9129
@hrafnkellhelgason9129 6 жыл бұрын
Reminded once again that Stephen Fry is my absolute favourite person on the planet. What an absolute gem. He saved this shambles of a debate and I'm saving this clip to keep forever, don't need to listen to the other ones ever again.
@Keepitgoinging
@Keepitgoinging 2 жыл бұрын
Ever see a debate hijacked. Here you go.
@cherylk6164
@cherylk6164 2 жыл бұрын
Have you seen his debate "Is the Catholic church a force for good?" Breathtakingly brilliant. I adore this man
@paulmichaelfreedman8334
@paulmichaelfreedman8334 2 жыл бұрын
@@Keepitgoinging Good or bad?
@peanuts68ful
@peanuts68ful 2 жыл бұрын
Then you heard nothing of what fry said if you say that ?
@communityrags6048
@communityrags6048 2 жыл бұрын
Deserving of a place alongside Bertrand Russell and some of his other favourites
@workguy2275
@workguy2275 6 жыл бұрын
I want to be as eloquent as a speaker as Stephen fry.
@amellirizarry9503
@amellirizarry9503 5 жыл бұрын
that's the advantage of have British accent😂 I want that too
@Kelso540
@Kelso540 5 жыл бұрын
His ability to curse blows me away.
@SDKsa1
@SDKsa1 5 жыл бұрын
@@amellirizarry9503 Not necessarily. His ability to grasp concepts and ideas, plus his vast wealth of knowledge and breadth of conquered books.
@amellirizarry9503
@amellirizarry9503 5 жыл бұрын
@@SDKsa1 I know, but the accent give him like a power up
@compagniaelvira
@compagniaelvira 5 жыл бұрын
I want too!
@shamirquinones8607
@shamirquinones8607 6 жыл бұрын
He won the day. If Peterson wouldn’t have had to spend his time defending himself, he would have done better.
@toxicpositivity9341
@toxicpositivity9341 6 жыл бұрын
Dyson ruined the whole debate by attacking Peterson. I would have loved to hear Jordan and Stephen discuss their views the whole time. They are both spectacular speakers.
@PrinsPrygel
@PrinsPrygel 5 жыл бұрын
@@toxicpositivity9341 I could just listen to Jordan Peterson and Stephen Fry swapping cooking recipes for hours, never mind an actual intellectual debate. They should do a round table talk like the one they did with Hitchens, Dawkins, Dennet, and Harris. I don't agree with all their points, but the constructive back and forth advances mankind, as opposed to the Dyson characters destructive race hate mongering.
@michaelhemphill2576
@michaelhemphill2576 5 жыл бұрын
Wow thts smart
@geminiwriter8875
@geminiwriter8875 5 жыл бұрын
Markass Brownlee he means ‘different from him’ so therefore fucked up. It’s how some people think when countered with a brick wall
@overthewebb
@overthewebb 5 жыл бұрын
I regard myself as 'left wing ' in economics, I see myself pretty much in line with Fry. Left wing, but I hate sjw's. The idiot above(eddiewinehosen) is a moron imo. Peterson's politics, I also agree with in about 80% of what he says and I'm on the 'left', as I said.
@vashna3799
@vashna3799 4 жыл бұрын
Although I agree with a lot of Jordan Peterson’s arguments, Stephen Fry remains the Voice of Reason.
@creightonjason
@creightonjason 2 жыл бұрын
Same here
@hollywooda111
@hollywooda111 5 жыл бұрын
Jordan brought a Fry to a knife fight...
@haydenthediggerinajtes9919
@haydenthediggerinajtes9919 4 жыл бұрын
HAH. Awesome
@michaelxo4436
@michaelxo4436 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha true.
@evilhag7732
@evilhag7732 4 жыл бұрын
lol great comment
@freddysquirenaranjo4859
@freddysquirenaranjo4859 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent comment lol
@akito7025
@akito7025 3 жыл бұрын
Frying man
@davidpotkins7602
@davidpotkins7602 5 жыл бұрын
" His intelligence seized on a subject, his genius embraced it, his eloquence illuminated it"
@cornishmaid9138
@cornishmaid9138 2 жыл бұрын
@ David Potkins - Well said and eloquently put.
@CJ-ft9yo
@CJ-ft9yo 2 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful symphony of words ...
@christopheradderley6902
@christopheradderley6902 6 жыл бұрын
Stephen Fry is tremendously playful, open and fun. Thank you for this video!
@mjsander2941
@mjsander2941 2 жыл бұрын
Jordan Petersen doesn't often applaud a fellow speaker, what a thoroughly deserved compliment for Stephen Fry that was. Wonderful hearing such common sense, so eloquently and gracefully delivered
@oliverpage5264
@oliverpage5264 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Stephen Fry for stating with such credible, heartfelt urgency the reasons why this form of political correctness is bad for everybody.
@davidharrison2961
@davidharrison2961 2 жыл бұрын
Stephen Fry is so very well educated and an absolute breath of fresh air. He puts everything across so eloquently and with perfect accuracy. Top man, top gentleman.
@rjwasser8312
@rjwasser8312 2 жыл бұрын
Stephen Fry is a literal hero of mine, and one of the reasons I came out all those years ago. He showed me that being gay wasn’t determinative if who I am, but a facet, that I can be an autonomous will in a world of unrestrained sentiment. Here’s to you Stephen Fry. The world could use more of you in it.
@AA-yc8yr
@AA-yc8yr Жыл бұрын
@JesusLovesMe But There's no scientific fact that being gay is anything remotely associated with a mental illness. Being a rabid bigot, on the other hand, can be given to psychosis, just like being a religious extremist can. P.S. Genetic 'coding' has little to do with alcoholism or drug addiction. And it's yet unclear to what extent it determines likelihood of mental illness. I appreciate you're a moron - that may or may not be genetically determined - but assuming you can read - can you? - you shoud go read a textbook on genetics before coming on here to spout your nonsense.
@archstanton3430
@archstanton3430 5 жыл бұрын
Take note, Michael Eric Dyson. This is what actual eloquence sounds like.
@jonathanbussu6748
@jonathanbussu6748 4 жыл бұрын
I'm taking note of him rocking back and forth like a mental patient
@OccamsEraserhead
@OccamsEraserhead 2 жыл бұрын
Dyson is the literal worst. Absolute charlatan of a man. And I say that as someone to the left of Stephen Fry.
@gogogomes7025
@gogogomes7025 4 жыл бұрын
"you can answer me in a moment" that's a clever one, i got to start to use it.
@martinbajsic4836
@martinbajsic4836 5 жыл бұрын
One of the most colorful soul I've encountered. Deep respects!
@vubhuhjkbhubohjb
@vubhuhjkbhubohjb 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the upload, Stephen nails it! Always loved the guy and he's just reinforcing my decades of adoration. Who gives a crap if he's straight or gay it just makes no difference at all either way.
@purdy9431
@purdy9431 5 жыл бұрын
He nails it about how flawed he feels with a comical edge. After the death of Hitch losing Fry will be a massive lose
@Shaewaros
@Shaewaros 4 жыл бұрын
The way Stephen argues in favor of Truth and Reason is so beautiful in these polarized times.
@stylishskater92
@stylishskater92 3 жыл бұрын
This is so pleasant to listen to without Dyson. When you could start hearing his mumbling at some point after Stephen finished talking i felt a sudden sense of "Oh no, oh no no no-" but then it cut to the next clip, such relief.
@cinemaipswich4636
@cinemaipswich4636 2 жыл бұрын
Stephen Fry is one of the best speakers about the world about us. I for one, will wish his dreams come true.
@Revelian1982
@Revelian1982 2 жыл бұрын
Me too, pal. He's a gift.
@poppymoon777
@poppymoon777 Жыл бұрын
So correct.We need to learn to play gracefully with ideas as a society
@nineteenninetyfive
@nineteenninetyfive 2 жыл бұрын
"you can answer me in a moment" was my favorite part.
@TruthspeakOfficial
@TruthspeakOfficial 5 жыл бұрын
“Huckstering snake oil pulpit talk.” That was iconic.
@blotski
@blotski 2 жыл бұрын
Watching this in 2022 as a lifelong leftie and a few things he said nearly made me cry. Mostly when he said the success of the right is mostly down to the colossal failure of the left. I agree. For the last two elections in the UK I have canvassed for the Labour Party in the north of England in some pretty working class traditional Labour areas. They look at the left and what they see is people who are passionate about telling them that they're all racist, sexist and that it's wrong to even discuss whether or not an adult with a penis and testicles and who experiences sex as a male is actually literally a woman. By closing down the discussion we appear to them to be just lost in a fantasy world they can't relate to. By using the expression 'toxic masculinity' they believe we're actually saying masculinity itself is a toxic thing so poorly have we explained ourselves. By talking about 'white privilege' they believe we're saying they're 'privileged' as they struggle to survive in their poverty stricken lives. Instead of openly and honestly discussing what we mean and choosing our words more thoughtfully we dive into clichés and slogans which are almost certain to lead to misunderstanding. Is it any wonder young straight, white males look at the left and think we don't care about them? The other thing is his point of people losing touch with the ability to laugh at themselves and instead they take themselves too seriously demanding often quite aggressively never to be offended. Often an intelligent piss-take which is over the top but with a dash of truth in it can get a point across wonderfully well. "Angels can fly because they take themselves lightly". Have those days gone? For those who say we never had those days just watch an episode of 'Little Britain' or indeed Monty Python.
@Io-Io-Io
@Io-Io-Io 4 жыл бұрын
Two years later and they still haven't learned...
@joncieelmore8056
@joncieelmore8056 3 жыл бұрын
3:55 is genius ‘preachiness...with the greatest of respect’
@peterwbryce
@peterwbryce Жыл бұрын
Sheer genius. Ability to articulate and reference ideas. Wonderful conversation.
@JesseClaus
@JesseClaus 2 жыл бұрын
One of the greatest human failings is to prefer to be right, rather than effective.
@peteskyrunner4845
@peteskyrunner4845 2 жыл бұрын
Stephen Fry is a master of the English language and he uses it so well here. Such a talent. Are we not going to mention how good he was in QI and as General Melchett in Blackadder?
@ben-9123
@ben-9123 Жыл бұрын
Fry is primarily a Comedian. This video is about Fry.
@scorpioo4320
@scorpioo4320 5 ай бұрын
Wonderfull.. Delighted to have come across this.. 🍀👍❤️
@SDKsa1
@SDKsa1 5 жыл бұрын
Stephen Fry is who I aspire to be in terms of eloquence and supreme articulation. Unfortunately, I'm not. I wish I was 1/100th as well read as he is. Perhaps one day.
@christopheradderley6902
@christopheradderley6902 5 жыл бұрын
That's a super aspiration - he is terrific!
@akito7025
@akito7025 3 жыл бұрын
Don't give up!!!
@camtro1558
@camtro1558 3 жыл бұрын
Aaaaaah man he's so eloquent but he tells the truth so well.
@frikky99
@frikky99 3 жыл бұрын
what a fucking orator. god damn legend.
@taniaomitted9786
@taniaomitted9786 5 жыл бұрын
Fry pretty much has more intellect than all 3 of them combined. I would love to just chat with Stephen. Just sit, have some tea, and talk about any interesting subject. Beautiful voice, and a majestic intellect.
@benjamincox376
@benjamincox376 5 жыл бұрын
Ahaha he’s definitely the most intelligent but Peterson is up there and quite close to fry it’s just that he doesn’t really know how to communicate that well in a non academic way.
@kingy002
@kingy002 2 жыл бұрын
@@benjamincox376 It is the breadth of Stephen's knowledge that defines him. He is a polymath. That is the difference between him and so many other great debaters and speakers.
@damarisrobles0101
@damarisrobles0101 Жыл бұрын
Even when I disagree with Stephen Fry, I LOVE AND RESPESCT HIM.
@MFoley35
@MFoley35 3 жыл бұрын
JP and SF seem to have built up a good respect of the years. Based on intellectual exchange even where they disagree. There conversations are a pleasure to watch.
@Theflammingnight
@Theflammingnight 2 жыл бұрын
their*
@lessspiders5328
@lessspiders5328 2 жыл бұрын
This little snippet of this debate really showed me how lost I am. Down the rabbit hole of Ben Shapiro and JP, both of whom o respect, but I find myself becoming more conservative about things I’ve never been conservative about in the past. There has been no sensible voice from the opposition to that. Steven fry is that voice for sure. And his sensibilities sort of comforts me in the fact that all the other people like him, and hopefully like me if I course correct well enough, are off doing things other than discussing politics
@monkeytennis8861
@monkeytennis8861 2 жыл бұрын
Respect Ben Shapiro? Are you on glue?
@lessspiders5328
@lessspiders5328 2 жыл бұрын
@@monkeytennis8861 lol yeah I know, he’s a lot more into himself than he was many years ago when I watched him a lot. He’s kinda turned into a gotcha journalism kind of fella, which is a bummer.
@scottnever8732
@scottnever8732 2 жыл бұрын
the legend and Gem that is Stephen Fry
@daveyhal
@daveyhal 5 жыл бұрын
18:23 - Burn
@mfinn5146
@mfinn5146 2 жыл бұрын
This debate was like Rembrandt vs. a kindergarten finger painting class.
@89gsmith
@89gsmith 5 жыл бұрын
I admire both Peterson and Fry and believe we need to listen more to these guys, they simplify the current issues the world faces and explain in detail (easy enough for the average Joe to understand). Fry is a national treasure, the way he articulates his arguments is so enjoyable to watch, @ 20:16 Jordan looks at Stephen and shakes his head in awe. He is quite an incredible human being and deserves to be knighted.
@happyjeffy
@happyjeffy 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah they are both incredibly articulate, I've never seen Peterson more impressed than around 18:05. Literally both wordsmiths in a time of sheeps and demagogues
@happyjeffy
@happyjeffy 5 жыл бұрын
I mean just look at JPs body language between 00:55 and 01:45. Stephen fry brings us all back to the real world.
@stevenredpath9332
@stevenredpath9332 2 жыл бұрын
Stephen Fry leaves you more informed while Peterson leaves you wondering what his word salad means. And Stephen can be engaged with because he wants us to be the best we can be while Peterson tends to shut down those he disagrees with and just make up stuff to shut people down.
@jeromeroy6899
@jeromeroy6899 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think some people want equality they want vengeance for real or imagined injustices of the past.
@tomtom21194
@tomtom21194 2 жыл бұрын
The rant at 19.55 is beautiful
@lisadefries6718
@lisadefries6718 2 жыл бұрын
I love Frys comment ‘I categorise myself as a social justice worrier” 😊
@WhatInTheDeepestShadeOfFeck
@WhatInTheDeepestShadeOfFeck 27 күн бұрын
Those are the best arguments against political correctness I have ever heard, because what it usually sounds like is Ricky Gervais saying things that he claims he isn't allowed to say to a worldwide audience for millions of dollars on Netflix...
@andrewhanton5598
@andrewhanton5598 2 жыл бұрын
Just marvellous. Such clarity and wisdom. What a treasure!
@ariadnabarajas2276
@ariadnabarajas2276 2 жыл бұрын
The humility is so attractive that Mr Stephen is displaying ❤️‍🔥
@diwa9751
@diwa9751 3 ай бұрын
"I was at Cambridge...we had our French phase..." Nailed it.
@amoosethatrants9720
@amoosethatrants9720 4 жыл бұрын
Perfection. If Peterson had just done it everyone would have accused him of being a racist and just being right wing but because Stephen Fry went out and said these wonderful things it opened peoples eyes.
@Fastmetro
@Fastmetro 2 жыл бұрын
Your right, the usual naive hypocrisy.
@nalyd1996able
@nalyd1996able 5 жыл бұрын
[Jordan Peterson liked that]
@jhvoojh
@jhvoojh Жыл бұрын
Stephen Fry is probably the famous guy that I respect more than anybody. I think he is wonderful. As a bang average thick bloke, I actually understand what he says without being patronised.
@suba7320
@suba7320 3 жыл бұрын
I mean it's Stephen Fry. If you're going up against the best, you best not miss.
@SvenTviking
@SvenTviking 2 жыл бұрын
The line about those who are right being full of doubt and indecision is amazing.
@southernborn1358
@southernborn1358 2 жыл бұрын
Stephen Fry is an incredible gift to humanity. He has what I call, an old school value called “an open mind.” Such an articulate, intelligent, and incredible varied and vastly educated man-in both life and academia.
@tested211
@tested211 2 жыл бұрын
Yes he is and that's a nice thing to say and quite something to aspire to.
@jessejonesish
@jessejonesish 2 жыл бұрын
Academia?
@southernborn1358
@southernborn1358 2 жыл бұрын
@@jessejonesish I may have used the term incorrectly-but I worked for an NCAA college for 8 years, and heard the term “academia” used by professors, a kind of term describing the inner culture of higher academics. I’m not sure if they makes sense?
@jessejonesish
@jessejonesish 2 жыл бұрын
@@southernborn1358 Thank you. I understand now 😀 Tbh SF annoys me. You're right he is a brilliant speaker but imho he is erratic too. (Please see my earlier comment re interrupting & talking over p r people. There was also a notorious joke about a choirboy's bum which seemed to me to foolish at best.)
@DidiandHenry
@DidiandHenry 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the opportunity to revisit this debate, without having to hear a word out of Dyson's mouth..
@MrJoshpit
@MrJoshpit 5 жыл бұрын
Both are great. 😎
@thatbapa
@thatbapa 2 жыл бұрын
Every time I listen to him, I get smarter. And I'm astounded by how graceful he conducts himself even under pressure and verbal attacks.
@JoeCharogoff
@JoeCharogoff 26 күн бұрын
The most destructive weakness in humanity is stubbornness, or the unwillingness to challenge your beliefs, worldviews, behaviors, concepts, thoughts and life. Political correctness takes it a step further and tells others they have to be stubborn too.
@willlarrow409
@willlarrow409 2 жыл бұрын
Fry is unmistakably one of the most courageous freedom fighters of our time. There is a very hard core within this self-professed "soft" man.
@dibayakubi8948
@dibayakubi8948 5 жыл бұрын
The only sane voice! I only watched it because of him
@danielmicah1946
@danielmicah1946 5 жыл бұрын
At 17:56, jordan peterson was like, yes thats my nigga
@mockingbird-media-uk
@mockingbird-media-uk 2 жыл бұрын
Such an eloquent delivery from mr fry !
@MrSpasticdancer
@MrSpasticdancer Жыл бұрын
fry is one of the rare celebrities who's actually not empty headed and vapid.
@InigoMontoya-
@InigoMontoya- 2 жыл бұрын
“Not to be too certain…” the hallmark of great intellect, is knowing how little you actually know.
@mickjones6369
@mickjones6369 2 жыл бұрын
Jordan can't hold a candle to Stephen ....
@chrisrayne3274
@chrisrayne3274 2 жыл бұрын
Well, we may politely disagree about the merits of the players, but I'll at least thank you for supporting the right team. 😀
@krztfr
@krztfr 2 жыл бұрын
This is a monologue. Not a debate.
@MrTelboy1962
@MrTelboy1962 4 ай бұрын
An oh too common phrase in this modern world is "You can't say that".
@robsteries
@robsteries 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe for mister Dyson, Where does the word 'SLAVE' comes from, to start with!!!
@mauricegartshore9105
@mauricegartshore9105 2 жыл бұрын
I've recently written a piece about the use of the 'trigger warning' as an example of the frail temperaments of those who are ready to be offended by language or ideas. Fry is spot on about the repressive nature of 'political correctness.'
@sylvernale
@sylvernale 2 жыл бұрын
What's wrong with letting a traumatized person know ahead of time they might see some violent/sexual/whatever video so they can prepare themselves?
@mauricegartshore9105
@mauricegartshore9105 2 жыл бұрын
@@sylvernale What's wrong is what is happening in Universities where lectures on well-established Literary texts are being cancelled because someone in the audience may object to the depiction of Lenny in Of Mice and Men as a man with learning difficulties etc. Your 'traumatized person' begs the question of what constitutes being traumatized. 'What do you mean by 'prepare themselves?" Have the lecture cancelled. Get a lawyer involved? Just skip it? I accept that in extreme cases some people with historical 'issues' may be made uncomfortable at best but the few can't dictate for the many. Go do some research on this topic. Have you read 'Julius Caesar?' A violent and shocking assassination. Triggger warning--don't watch this play if you hate violence.
@kiflizen
@kiflizen 4 жыл бұрын
The only discussion I watched that Jordan Peterson was outshined. You see in Jordan’s expression that he too was amazed.
@KodakKid
@KodakKid 2 жыл бұрын
He’s been outshined many a time
@OliverJazzz
@OliverJazzz 2 жыл бұрын
@LM Bas by common sense
@jordanj9069
@jordanj9069 Жыл бұрын
Eloquent elucidation of truly righteous philosophy is utterly gorgeous
@doubleuponbob3397
@doubleuponbob3397 5 жыл бұрын
14:35 - The moment when Fry undresses their arguments.
@the_trooper_72
@the_trooper_72 2 ай бұрын
Stephen Fry could read the phone book and I'd listen intently!!! 🤘🏻😎💯🙏🏻
@timidtornado2869
@timidtornado2869 4 жыл бұрын
Wonderful command of the language. If you must fight, use words. Use them properly. Debate, converse, agree disagree, find a middle ground.
@kingy002
@kingy002 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent comment.
@iseeolly9959
@iseeolly9959 4 жыл бұрын
here's a thought: Steven Fry for PM ?
@JakobusVdL
@JakobusVdL 2 жыл бұрын
Of where?
@rusticislander3584
@rusticislander3584 2 ай бұрын
He’s a walking example of that wonderful English maxim, “Use soft words and hard arguments.”
@foadghavami2004
@foadghavami2004 3 жыл бұрын
Sit him up next to Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens and even Douglas Murray, and then listen up to them talking, suddenly the level of discussion, understanding and the elegance & eloquence of the thought and mind rises up few notches, arguably the better part of humanity.
@iangraham9050
@iangraham9050 2 жыл бұрын
They should play this at all ‘Humanities’ seminars at universities.
@dalelatimer01
@dalelatimer01 6 жыл бұрын
I tried to understand Prof Dyson but i don't get his language a lot of the time. Fry much better communicator i think
@bootybunkerspelunker
@bootybunkerspelunker 6 жыл бұрын
Dale Latimer he tries to hide his bad ideas in overly complex language.
@jonathanbibby812
@jonathanbibby812 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly, the irony is if Dyson were a better communicator, his message would suffer.
@keyan1219
@keyan1219 4 жыл бұрын
Dale Latimer his language makes me feel very discombobulated
@keyan1219
@keyan1219 4 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Bibby a lot of times people who know little try to make themselves seem like they know a lot by using pompous words and making it seem a lot more complex than it is People who know a lot don’t because they have no need to look clever because they just are
@justinneill5003
@justinneill5003 2 жыл бұрын
Stephen is so engaging and persuasive in the subtlest of ways, if he was in the “yes” camp in a debate about flat earth or a moon made of cheese I think he would prevail!
@benitotommassi5820
@benitotommassi5820 2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this debate ages ago. Peterson and Fry completely obliterated the opposition, although they did themselves no favours TBH. Stephen Fry is a rare, rare talent.
@by.adam.b
@by.adam.b 5 жыл бұрын
It’s refreshing to see Jordan in the presence of someone as intelligent and articulate as he is (perhaps even more so). We need to see these two together more often.
@markdillon5494
@markdillon5494 3 жыл бұрын
Stephen Fry is the intellects intellect
@py2007
@py2007 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful, wonderful speaker
@hrs1414
@hrs1414 4 жыл бұрын
The dude on the left - cant remember his name - lost the plot completely during this. I used to see him on the Bill Maher show and he wasnt half as annoying back then. Idk what the hell happened to the guy but hes gone full out group think and it sucks to see that bc hes shown hes an intelligent person
@wilky952
@wilky952 4 жыл бұрын
sooner we all learn to see the battle from both sides the better,UK national treasure.
@ankavoskuilen1725
@ankavoskuilen1725 2 жыл бұрын
"At the moment you are recruiting for the right." That is so true! If this is the left, I am ashamed to be leftish.
@SnoopyisCool007
@SnoopyisCool007 Ай бұрын
An example is suppression of the empirical and rational truths of evolutionary psychology. We should't view as normative but also not deny it.
@thebadnotes7628
@thebadnotes7628 4 жыл бұрын
Peterson is the only one here fit enough to share the stage with the bastion of sanity that is Stephen Fry.
@alexbrown-ks1hq
@alexbrown-ks1hq 2 жыл бұрын
how i wish more people were like mr fry
@markusmunten9346
@markusmunten9346 5 жыл бұрын
he is magnificent
@ryanboyer8272
@ryanboyer8272 2 жыл бұрын
I love JP's quiet realization that Stephen isn't a fan. Hehehe
@chrisrayne3274
@chrisrayne3274 2 жыл бұрын
Well your comment is delightfully negated by the fact that Mr Fry mentions that in his opening remarks and actually uses the fact to re-enforce how strongly he feels about their common positions on the debate topic.
@OliverJazzz
@OliverJazzz 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisrayne3274 on the debatable topic it ends, too.
@chrisrayne3274
@chrisrayne3274 2 жыл бұрын
Err....What does?
@mslitchick
@mslitchick 6 ай бұрын
Stephen Fry's brilliance is off the charts.
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