Stephen Jackson on LeBron: 'We knew he was going to crush all the stats' | UNDISPUTED

Stephen Jackson joins Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe to talk about LeBron James becoming the first NBA player to reach 30k points, 8k rebounds and 8k assists.
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Stephen Jackson on LeBron: 'We knew he was going to crush all the stats' | UNDISPUTED
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[@TheFacilityonFS1]

Will LeBron’s stats eventually cement him as best the NBA player ever?

[@fortyseven1476]

No, Cuz then Westbrook would be the greatest Point Guard ever

[@willemdee]

Never.

[@JP-qx7sv]

no

[@tokdon3972]

Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED No

[@TheVilouboy]

Cris Law...PREACH

[@Mons7erFISH]

"He's a great passer. He should get 8k assists." He's complimenting him while trying to belittle his career

[@user-eo1se3xx2p]

@Versatile Wolf it's like saying jordon is a ball hog, he should average more than 30 points a game, isn't it

[@JJ-zy3zv]

😂😂 skip is wild

[@tdl8472]

@Versatile Wolf completely misses the point

[@shanewilliams7558]

Skip really trying to brush this achievement off like some scrub could do it as long as he could play a long time.

[@spawn6459]

Shane Williams He not brushing it off he just don't do what the Bronsexuals do which is annoying

[@sergeistalin7916]

Shane Williams But we are not talking about scrubs, we are talking about someone who wants to be the GOAT, so the standars are different. What Lebron did is impressive? Yes, Does help him on his case for the best ever? Not really.

[@bostongeorge7023]

Exactly this man just said it's easy to get to 8k rebounds and assists

[@rellykz2175]

Definitely, Skip really tried to discredit his achievement. To be so durable to never had a major injury, let alone a minor injury like tendinitis, or sprained ankle playing the way he plays has just never been seen. Honestly the way Lebron’s career is going he can possibly end up with 38k points 10k reb 10k assists. End up as the all time points leader, though he won’t have the 6 rings to show, he has 3 rings and that’s more rings than many legends and hof’ers have. I’m a Lebron fan but seriously we can’t discredit any achievements by anybody. Kobe averaging 35ppg one season, Westbrooks triple dub season, Curry’s unanimous Mvp season, once these guys retire we’ll really miss seeing them.

[@southsidehitta8452]

bet you if khawi did it skip would've praised it

[@craigboudreau9801]

Skip saying he isn't impressed by 30/8/8 thousand is absurd

[@brucesuckemoff795]

I'm impressed by that sweep in the finals

[@KingGeorge23]

@@brucesuckemoff795 with all due respect, you do know Jordan was swept twice in the 1st round and eliminated 7 times in the playoffs before Phil Jackson and Scottie Pippen saved the day, right?

[@kingofhaiti123]

@@KingGeorge23 being swept in the first round to a superior team is expected.... getting swept in the finals as the best player in the world not so muchh, and u saying phil jackson and pippen saved the day just disqualified you from speaking on basketball

[@andrewgarcia2421]

@@kingofhaiti123 so a kd steph klay draymond team isnt superior to lebron and jr Smith come on dude that's 4 hall of famers and he got swept by arguably the best dynasty ever in the spurs

[@kingofhaiti123]

@@andrewgarcia2421 lol there's NO excusessss, idc if golden state had a hall of famer filling up every roster spot on their team, losing is never ever acceptable and certainly not excused, and please don't bring up the spurs cuz the spurs had no business beating lebron in the 2014 finals, Duncan was 37 years old, ginobili was 36 years old lmaoooooo cmon bruh

[@CycleCruza]

Love or hate Lebron, he is a BEAST and unlike any other player ever. Let's keep it real, he is a man of steel.

[@NirodimosNeedAKing]

Forrest Mann mj didnt see any finals for 7years 😂

[@terrenceperkins5282]

CycleCruza facts

[@calvinluciano]

Nirodimos NeedAKing that’s because mike didn’t leave & wait for his team to get a few number 1 draft picks

[@calvinluciano]

MATT BIGTUNA pippen never averaged more than 22pts a season which make sense that Jordan had to score those 50 & 60pt games to win

[@DrakeTheDragonn]

LUCIANO lebron still went to the finals ?? Lmao tf you talking ab

[@DJSkandalous]

He could beat the warriors this year and people will still say he only has 4 and not 6. All you critics will make him really consider going to Golden State and destroying the league on his way to 6 or 7 titles. I will laugh all year long if that happens.

[@vitezjura]

I hope warriors lose this year, but I also hope Lebron loses too. He doesn't deserve to be in the goat conversation and the warriors are just a disgusting team. Hope both teams get bounced out of the playoffs before the finals.

[@angelaroberts5536]

He has four now

[@GingerRiq]

@@angelaroberts5536 lmao

[@jefpduct8725]

Skip, Lebron is Lebron and MJ is MJ. No comparison at ALL! Two totally different athletes... they are both one of a kind..

[@coachobispersonalworkoutti2223]

This is the most sensible comment

[@princesslightning5447]

Thank you

[@gibbs301]

This is now my favorite sports show. Never a dull moment with Skip and Shannon. Undisputed!!!

[@ah2552]

"He did that? I was going to do it!" Shannon at 7:15

[@AaronVillalobos]

Bruhhhhh skip is REACHIN!!!!

[@montraybrown9008]

A A R O N V I L L A L O B O S lol it’s good stuff lol

[@anirudh1998able]

Skip Bayless would get 30k points too In 1500 years lol

[@r.o.c117]

Lame joke

[@Anraj17]

Don't think there will ever be another Lebron. After MJ, there was Kobe. But another Lebron, with the all around greatness and dominance through 15+ seasons?

[@yogogomoon]

Ben Simmons might

[@GO-wb1gf]

V. Ramsey he'll be 36 in year 15 so idk

[@tomasleopoldo6009]

GManPro he is in year 15

[@BuddaG438]

I was about to say the same thing, Ben Simmons

[@joaopescusa]

Dominance through 15 seasons? lol... you guys really quickly forget.

[@JasonDrivakos]

Wow lebron so humble

[@leeillman7195]

No he's not no sportsman is

[@VMEagle]

I never understood why rings mean a certain individual is better than another. Rings are more of a team accomplishment more than anything.

[@iamEricHall]

VMEagle 6018 same with someone making it to 7+ consecutive finals

[@elijahford2131]

Eric Hall but he the only one in his team to make to 7?😕 everyone play for Bill Russell Celtics

[@lebarbosa9778]

Who cares he jumps from superteam to superteam

[@OnYourSquare]

Championship Barbosa Everyone in the NBA does that. Past and present.

[@KM-mq1nv]

VMEagle 6018 Jordan has 10 scoring titles. Is that good enough?

[@alexanderliles9526]

"LeBron got 3 of them things" Shannon a legend

[@rollandcurtis874]

In 1991 & 1992, Mr. Phil Jackson was not a HOF coach.

[@chikytv9578]

AJ RX you stupid..ofcourse he's not..he was still making his legacy.. Phil's legacy was validated because he's won coaching different teams..do you think lue, blat or spolstra could win coaching a different team..Miami's barely even making the playoffs and when lue does not have lebron, we won't even notice that he's a head coach..lol

[@Benzene21]

Uh, look at the players spoelstra got after lebron left. As a matter of fact, he has done a pretty good job. He should have won COY last year.

[@connor_walker]

Why do people always say they value winning so much? If that was true why isn't Bill Russell the goat?

[@tijuan307]

Connor Walker look at the era wilt played in compared to jordan also jordan went undefeated which means even tho wilt has more rings jordan didn't lose when ot came to the finals

[@alexborisov1301]

Tijuan Dawson check Boston record I think the won 5 or 6 straight about era think of it no good equipment even shoes less players but need to be very good to make it less money no to mention social sites issues

[@tijuan307]

Alex Borisov he did win like 5 or 6 straight i think people also look at the amount of teams bill had to go through it was only like 8 teams lol. Russel also had 11 hall of famers woth him to bit alot of people still look at the fact that jordan still went 6-0

[@activelocc7628]

Connor Walker competition nothing like what Jordan had to go through

[@texophile]

yeah right lebron don't have competition :D stupid argument

[@jadonnoble5621]

At this point I’m done with arguing who the greatest of all time is for the sport of basketball. There is no definitive answer bc there are so many different eras of the sport and so many factors that go into who the greatest is. I believe that we should just look for who was the greatest for their era. Let’s go by decade. 1960s: Bill Russel 1970s: Kareem 1980s: Magic Johnson 1990s: Michael Jordan 2000s: this one is tough so I have 3, shaq, Duncan, and Kobe 2010s: Lebron James This is really the only way to look at it. We can’t have all these players together in their primes to see who is better. That’s why you can only go by the era in which they played.

[@craigrutter4804]

Jadon Noble so tough to compare generations man i like how you divided the decades, but if we put rings aside id definitely put bird with magic, magic got more rings but bird was the better overall player

[@jaybrick8973]

Were is bird

[@kmol9805]

"Wadduuuuup" Lmfao love Uncle Shannon

[@arizonaFIREent]

Jordan and Lebron are two completely different players... as a Celtics fan I hate both but they're both all time greats but two different types of players

[@shakeelsss]

I love Skip Bayless. He tells it like it is.

[@AR-io8fv]

I nearly spat out my drink when Shannon said "AND HE BEAT ME TO IT". Shannon is like my daily preacher

[@philipbanks8798]

I’m not a Lebron fan but the thing this dude Lebron doing and will do is crazy he’s the greatest

[@Mercurial.]

"Tell me u lying without telling me u lying was a person" 🤣🤥

[@BasicBodThor]

"Give Michael Tye Lu and he'd have six rings" lol Skip I want what you're smoking

[@lizliz9371]

“Lebron gonna answer the door & ask Are you here for mike?” That had me rolling 😂

[@neal6473]

Shannon Sharpe so country lol. 😅

[@SkiMaskJay.]

Skip brought up Jordan because he feels threatened 😂😂😂

[@Mercurial.]

It was Lebron himself who brought that up trying to pat himself on the back almost by breaking his damn arm 🤣☠

[@Lord2wiceAsReal]

How you not a scorer but you can put the ball in the hole 😂😂😂

[@ksteve4042]

Lord 2wice because he can do it all, but a pass first player

[@TheIcemanthomas]

Lord 2wice he's not a pure score. Its not his main focus. Just like a Oscar Robertson who puts up 24+ pts, but he focused on his all around game

[@Lord2wiceAsReal]

K Steve I know he is it was a joke my guy

[@ksteve4042]

Lord 2wice I know or I hope you were joking lol. I just had to say something

[@spawn6459]

K Steve Cause Bronsexuals can't help the itch to say something about their Queen

[@mitchaygo5499]

14 seasons. rookie of the year, 5mvps 6finals mvps ,6 champs,1dpy, 10 scoring title, etc.. if you are the goat .. in 20 seasons you should have surpassed those accolades ..

[@bigboy501]

Skip, trying to control his laugher @4:18. LOL Shannon Sharpe, is too funny man.

[@maximomedrano3143]

HAHAHAHAHA that GOAT sound effect though lol

[@jzaymoneyy6182]

"He's gonna break his arm trying to pat himself in the back" skip got jokes 😂😂😂😂😂

[@agilagilsen8714]

Strange how longevity stats don't matter here but thats the only kind of stat that places TB as the greatest ever. Sure he has the most SB wins and it is undeniable that he is a great qb. But most of the stats used to prove he is the GOAT is longevity stats. That being said, longevity stats matter. And should matter a lot. Cause they only come from being great over a long time. And thats hard.

[@navaropalm6111]

Jordan played against 26 50W teams in the playoffs and went 19-7. Lebron played 21 50W teams and went 12-9. So Lebron already collected more Ls while facing less elite teams than MJ. This is not close. Lebron was merely a modern day Wilt Chamberlain. Lots of individual stats but unable to convert them into enough Ws.

[@philippghadiri7085]

Navaro Palm but he could not Go to the Finals until pippen came.... so

[@navaropalm6111]

@PhilippG Jordan only lost when his team was at disadvantage. That's the key. Lebron could lose even when he had the edge, such as 2011 and 2014. That's why Jordan is the ultimate winner while Lebron does not compare.

[@ssj4randy759]

Navaro Palm 2014 was not an advantage d wade bosh and Allen were washed

[@navaropalm6111]

@Ssj4 Not as washed as TD at age of 38 and Manu 37.

[@copernicusjordan6234]

but he beat a team with 70 plus wins

[@ayushgurung007]

Skip : Give Jordan Ty Lue , he would have 6 chips. On The Last Dance Video , Michael Jordan : I need Phil Jackson or i'm outta here .

[@najihalexander8890]

I love how skip calls everyone blind witnesses yet he is the biggest blind witness ever

[@givingforchrist3343]

If he averages 22 points for 5 years playing only 75 games a year, he will pass kareem for 1st all time scoring.. its so easy for him to get #1 all time scoring! And HIS NOT EVEN A SCORER! Smh... bron needs to stop

[@AbuOsama29]

He’s not a great or versatile scorer like MJ, Kobe, or Durant. His strength and speed are crazy and he developed a jumpshot in the past 5 years.

[@Benzene21]

He is not even a scorer??? Uh, he averages 19 FGA per game for his career. He averages more shots per game for his career than kobe and durant! He IS a scorer and anyone how thinks otherwise is dumb.

[@AbuOsama29]

I know he’s a scorer. I said he wasn’t a great scorer or a versatile scorer. He gets his buckets with his physicality or his set jump shot. Compare that to Durant, MJ, or Kobe who can get consistent post up fadeaways, take you off the dribble, step backs, and have higher free throw percentages. They are more versatile. Those are the great scorers. Next time, actually watch basketball or learn to read.

[@Benzene21]

I wasn’t even replying to your comment.

[@deathtotubez]

what does he need to stop doing? being the best player in the league? You make it sound so easy from your computer chair you loser

[@wytemic2680]

he gone break his arm tryna pat his own back 😂😂😂

[@deonhacker8076]

Jordan 6 chips with one team LeBron 3 two teams and Kyrie gave Cleveland that chip not LeBron watch game 7 against the Warriors Facts

[@jefgonzalespaderan5209]

Lol... But without LBJ in finals , irving no RING .. haha think bro

[@DaneroHoops]

Individual accomplishments > Team accomplishments

[@TheDannnnyo]

Facts. Allen Iverson > Robert Horry

[@arizonaFIREent]

Danny G hopefully you never play on my team

[@arizonaFIREent]

TRN both are overrated

[@yvngmatic4088]

Danny G exactly!! A team accomplishment

[@ellismiller]

Shannon"and he beat me to it n i was gonna do it" this guy is real and makes this show worth watching every time I wake up

[@Mektek19]

No the stat stuffing does not compare to Michael Jordan. He was so much more than just the stats. That's what people fail to realize. Statistic without watching the games doesn't tell the while story.

[@lbjfan2323]

MJ will never be better than LeBron James. All he got is rings to hold on to now. Come June LeBron would be a 4 time champs and his legacy will never get touch.

[@lbjfan2323]

Facts

[@d.a.r.m.a8306]

Two words: Golden State

[@deandreray3500]

Folesadelphia, Wentzsylvania um rings isn’t that wat people count since when do people not count rings that’s what makes u great lol

[@elijahford2131]

D.A.R.M.A golden state are not winning 😂and tbh NBA is gonna make LeBron an untouchable so mjfans get ready these couple of seasons are gonna be hard to watch

[@romeyrome3275]

😂 bruh sometimes I find it funny when we as fans use rings as defining who the 🐐 is but then when we say Bill it's like nope rings don't matter wtf

[@coachobispersonalworkoutti2223]

Romey Rome Don't Bother bruv its all about making money. That's why I always Wilt is the Goat

[@Mercurial.]

Does Bill has the ACCOLADES, RINGS and stats like MJ has again 👀🤓

[@Jc-fi4md]

that's hard to break that record maybe even 30 years from now 30k+ pts. 8k+ rebound 8k+ assist 15 season

[@rhys7865]

Stephen Jackson needs to be on more often

[@DoronBond]

but Skiiiiiup....

[@nathanter7622]

Skip and Shannon: best thing that ever happened on television since Friends

[@nino7384]

Can anyone imagine Mike with his skills and mentally and Bron body 😟

[@bespushkule3136]

Honestly, the truth is no one can judge nor should we judge who’s the best ever, like what does that even accomplish? Bragging rights? And what does bragging rights accomplish? Nada. They are both great. Why try to diminish another just to make one look good. I like good basketball conversation, but trying to figure that out is literally impossible. And not just those two, you can add a bunch of other greats in there as well. Every legend played their part, just those two along with Kobe and Magic and Bird were just more popular and their style of play attracted more fans. Lebron saying he’s trying to catch a ghost, or saying he’s one of a kind, or all the other stuff he says is just pure genius business tactics he’s learned. He keeps his name and brand flowing through news cycles daily.

[@ogsouljahmantimetv8970]

skipp killed it

[@YouReallyDontKnow]

Yo Shannon is one funny dude man, guy has me crying lol

[@ChillydontCap]

Another thing....if you watched basketball in the 80's and 90's you know about the illegal defense rule that prohibited zone defenses. Well nowadays zone defense is legal. I think the game has become harder just because teams dont have to play 1-1 defense. Much harder to play iso ball versus back then. Jordan lived off iso ball.

[@charlescampbell7710]

We’re comparing 2 different style of players from 2 different eras! This conversation could go on forever

[@privilegetobehere]

5:07 is the best part 😂😂

[@firmbodyval4536]

Michael Jordan is the GREATEST basketball player EVER! LeBron James is the BEST basketball player EVER! There is a difference. Let me explain... Being the greatest in your field doesn't necessarily mean you're the best. Michael Jordan stood out WAY above his peers at a time when the NBA was still becoming a global sport. Much of how Michael Jordan is perceived today has a lot to do with how he was marketed. He was the focal point of the league. Today, the league has many other stars: Kevin Durant, Steph Curry, Anthony Davis, and James Harden to name a few. LeBron doesn't stand out among those players the way Jordan did in his era. Lebron James, however, is a better athlete, hands down. Look at his physique and the incredible moves he has made over the years. Jordan is not his equal in this regard. Jordan has more rings than LeBron, but so too does Robert Horry. In fact, Horry has seven rings, one more than Jordan. So rings can't logically be the primary measure of excellence because no one would place Horry's skill level over Jordan or LeBron. The teams that LeBron has been on would not have made it to the finals without him, so even though he lost many of those finals matches, just getting as far as he did speaks volumes about his skill level. He's been to the final 7 straight times, remember that! Look at it this way: Floyd Mayweather Jr. by most boxing experts is a far more skillful fighter than Muhammed Ali. However, Ali is a greater boxer in the eyes of most people. That's because he meant a whole lot more to the sport than Mayweather ever will-- and rightfully so. Greatness and best are not necessarily one and the same.

[@tonysantos7349]

more stephen jackson!!

[@scottiefegans3294]

love this show

[@chrisgowers8094]

LeBron James has constantly been surrounded by shooters so ofcourse he should average more assists than MJ considering he is a ball dominate point forward. Let's include the fact that he averages a lot more turnovers than MJ did. Tbh, for his size and athletic ability he should average more rebounds than he actually does. LeBron is a great player, but sorry dude. MJ did more in a shorter timeframe. & those subliminal messages of saying you are one of a kind and all doesn't make you the goat. I'm still a LeBron fan though and individual stats plus rings matter if you are the franchise player. Sorry Michael will hold the GOAT title even if if he scored 40,000 points.

[@caliba100]

Lebron really doesnt chase stats in my view... I feel like he can do sooo much more than he does but he don't want to overwork his body and also he wants his teammates to feel apart of the team, so he step back at times. I know you wish he had a MJ mentality but he doesnt.. he wins different and everyone know LeBron is built like he was born to be the GOAT... And he will be when its all said and done.. every year his game convinces millions into believing he's better than Jordan.

[@AbuOsama29]

Jordan was surrounded by shooters too. He just wasn’t a passer.

[@Benzene21]

The triangle is not a system where one player constantly looks to pass to spot up shooters, which is what lebron does. Argument invalid. Also, 3-point shots weren't as common as they are now. Argument invalid. And Jordan didn’t have as many shooters on his team. Argument invalid AGAIN.

[@AbuOsama29]

Didn’t say anything about the system, didn’t say anything about the 3 point volume. Paxson, Kerr, Kukoc were excellent 3 point shooters. That’s all I’m saying the OP. Jordan had shooters, so not having any isnt why he has less assists then LeBron. MJ wasn’t looking to pass.

[@Benzene21]

Obviously, you didn’t say anything about the system or volume. That’s the point. Your argument has no context. Jordan never had as many shooters and 3-points shots weren’t as common. Give him better scorers and shooters and his assists go up.

[@vishalrai1654]

You Are One Of A Kind King No Mj No Kibe

[@brianbrookins6292]

"longevity numbers" thats a new one

[@jwst8]

'Skip and Shannon' is the best buddy buddy comedy in the last 5 years, yo

[@cptshifty_8552]

Joy is GORGEOUS Jesus. Nobody watches this for skip and Shannon we watch because joy is absurdly beautiful.

[@huunnchohancho6045]

Skip is getting paid to #hate on LeBron by Michael Jordan #facts #best job in the world 😂😂😂 🙌 #lebron is better than Jordan

[@abdulalisalam6696]

I agree with you on that.

[@EMBERFIY]

lonzo puts up 8-9-4 on 35% shooting skip bayless: 'he is special' leBron averages a triple double for a whole month skip bayless: 'are you kidding me? he was saved in the finals by ray allen'

[@adrianneal5004]

Micheal was with the wizards in his 15th year....he was 39-40 years old.....smh people crazy

[@RIP.REI13]

Adrian Neal no he wasn’t 💀💀

[@adrianneal5004]

Hoke the goat how old was he then?

[@JaeMizz]

6:20 is the best part

[@MrAlmiranda]

Skip Bayless is Lebron's best asset to be considered the Goat,everytime he brings the 6 of 6 stat and clutch shooting as the only arguments he has to offer.

[@nickdominic9103]

6:20 might be the dumbest thing i have ever heard lmao. We all laughed in unison with shannon and stephen.

[@tammdraytonjr9843]

They diss Russell but he had to play in the races NBA that's pressure within itself

[@johanandolphin592]

Watching these arguments in Quarentine.. Even if you think he's delusional on LeBron being the G.O.A.T opinion ... You have to admit he's halarious 😂😂😂😂

[@pdfbanana]

Skip only ever says "knock on wood" when he's talking about players he doesn't like

[@jtb9324]

there will never be a single greatest player; even though i heavily enjoy the arguments, lol.

[@buyingteststrips5006]

Wilt is the most underrated player. He was a physical specimen without all the things they have now

[@coldwolf7014]

Lmao it’s clear as day Lebron is the goat if they have to argue what position the man plays at 6’8” tall “He rebounds like a center, no he doesn’t he’s a PF, Lebron is a SF.” But passes and runs the offense like a PG, but can score off the ball like a SG. 😂😭

[@lutzismail7874]

how do you score off the ball....🤔

[@andrewestrada9440]

You know.. Alot of ppl hate LBJ and that's fine .. But you ppl that hate on him have to understand what this guy is doing in the game rite now just appriecate it because u might never see another player like him.. He can shoot.. Rebound.. And pass the ball and he can protect the paint.. He is truely a one of a kind player ....#witness greatness when you see it ppl

[@sbisas]

that's almost a comedy show, and a good one actually...!

[@TM-6ahh]

I've never disagreed with skip so MUCH. Skiiiippp! Lol

[@chrismilleranthony5134]

Indeed never seen before.

[@PearlJamGuy10]

Here's some more stats. 0-1 vs Dirk, 1-2 vs Duncan, 1-2 vs KD, 1-3 vs Steph in finals. Played alongside 14 all stars in the east which accounts for 25% of all eastern starters in his 15 seasons in the east, a league record volume for an mvp winner, and could never even reach the playoffs as the lone all star on his roster. Only mvp in league history to lose both at an Olympic and a FIBA level by taking home bronze at the 2004 Olympics and bronze again at the 2006 World Championships, lost to a Greece team that was void of any NBA players, and was on Team USA when they became the first roster to not win gold since The Dream Team. Three finals mvp awards while his direct small forward match up has won it four times, Kawhi Leonard, Andre Iguodala and Kevin Durant twice in a row now. Is one of three players in league history to average more than four turnovers at least three times in their career and is inside the top five all time list in turnovers committed. Had to join forces with two of the other top five picks from his own draft class to win his first championship after nine seasons in the league, that would have been the equivalent of Michael Jordan teaming up with Charles Barkley and Hakeem Olajuwon, and he still lost as the favorite in two out of four finals appearances with that organisation. He has never won a championship without at least two team mates averaging above 20ppg each, Wade and Bosh with Miami, Love and Irving with Cleveland. Only one player in league history has lost more finals games and more finals series, and only one finals mvp in league history has a worse finals winning percentage than his 33.3% and that is Jerry West's 11.1%. He has only had to face 10 50+ win teams in the playoffs while playing for multiple organisations. With the most all star caliber team mates in league history, he has been swept in the finals twice, lost a series by a world record 71 point deficit, lost a close out game by a world record 23 point margin in which he only attempted four field goals in the entire second half, has two separate series of only mustering one win equating to two victories out of four entire series, and has been outplayed and outscored by the opposing team's 6th man who averaged 11 less minutes per game for the series. Since 2006 Lebron has shot 8-for-51 on game winning and go ahead field goals with under 10 seconds remaining in regulation and overtime, just 15.6% on game-deciding shots (couldn't find data prior to 2006, maybe none were attempted). He says he is not a scorer but it is the only thing he has lead the league in other than minutes, which he did once back in 2008. Has only captured seven playoff records in his career which is dwarfed by the 42 that Michael Jordan captured, and it took him 57 more playoff games just to catch Jordan in total points registered. Has led the playoffs in turnovers in the same year as having the absolute worst defensive efficiency rating out of all active players in the same post season, 2018. He has only played all 82 regular season games one time in his career. 5 all defensive first team selections out of 15 seasons of eligibility thus far, meaning he was the league's premiere small forward defender for just one third of his career. He has not caught many of his contemporaries in championship titles, players like Kobe Bryant with 5, Tim Duncan with 5, Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili with 4 each, while many others have matched him, Dwayne Wade, Sam Cassell and Steph Curry all with 3 each. Three championships in 15 full seasons of play, giving him a championship probability of 20%, compared to Michael Jordan who went for six in 13 full seasons of play for a 46% probability, more than double LeBron's. The Los Angeles Lakers and the Miami Heat have both won championships in the modern era without LeBron, and the Cleveland Cavaliers have captured division titles and conference finals appearances without LeBron. The Chicago Bulls have never in their history made it to a conference finals appearance without Michael Jordan on their roster. Since Michael Jordan won his last championship in 1998, the entire eastern conference has won the same amount of championships in 20 years as he himself won in a seven year span of his playing career. LeBron has never had that type of impact on a team, a roster, an organisation let alone an entire conference. Their names don't belong in the same sentence.

[@jtb9324]

also the only player to lead both teams in a playoff series in all 5 categories; mind you, he did this in the finals. he averages more pts than mj while facing elimination. the most trip-dubs in finals history. all-time leader in play-off pts. the 1st player to average a trip-dub in a finals. this is not saying he's the goat, its just saying he's unique just like the rest of the greats INCLUDING mj. just me acknowledging greatness still in work.

[@musiking1016]

So u have a 1 of a kind achieve dat took 15 years in the making to make that means your achievement wasn't a fluke not one good one of a kind game but 15 years of greatness dats a one of a kind career of a 1 of a kind star line/achievement for a 1 OF A KIND PLAYER

[@jacobwilkie241]

I see a distinct difference in these 2 players and it kinda shows to me why Jordan is the GOAT. Jordan, sure, he played on the Bulls and played with Phil Jackson, one fantastic coach, but Jordan played in a system. And it was the Triangle system no less, probably the hardest system to ever play in. He didn't hog the ball and he played through that system with his tenure with Phil Jackson. While as we look at Lebron and the style he plays, it's one system and that's Lebron's system. It's called ISO ball or in cheese terms 5 out. This is where Lebron, in a half court set, takes the ball up himself and tells everyone to clear out on the 3PT line. This is especially cheese because who can guard Lebron on a drive? No one. So it's either he drives right past his defender and gets a wide open dunk or layup, or if someone comes to help, he can kick it out to a most of the time (except in D Wade's case in Miami) a good to great 3PT shooter. That to me, makes my argument on offence. And on defence, all Lebron does great is chase down blocks. Other than that, he's really declined. He's never been a steals leader, which MJ has been 3 times, Lebron has never been a DPOY and MJ has. It's basic to me. MJ is the GOAT and this is not coming from a hater of Lebron. I LOVE Lebron. I appreciate his greatness. He's the best player since this century came around and I ain't afraid to say that. But he just is never going to be the GOAT

[@tomswill9189]

Speak the truth Shannon.

[@gml2utb]

its official now, this is a reality show and I love it.

[@Workin0nit]

Thank god for Shannon during these conversations. Skip will find any reason to hate on Bron. Lebron could break every single record but that' dude skip will continue to hate: SMH

[@WillzWinning]

Skip starts argument can't deliver, then switch to something else when you compare

[@Stephen-rf1pi]

Shannon seems to be the only analysts that knows what's up

[@lamonlovejr4579]

He right

[@larrywerdeniuk6748]

you here for mike? awesome!!! Steph Jackson saying of the year!!! put him on more, he is awesome!

[@reallll2778]

Did joy just say Shannon is paid off 😂😂

[@Whyypreeeeeeeeee]

Lebron gonna answer the door and say are you here for Mike 💀💀🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@cityliving7519]

5:05 🐐 blaaaa thank me with a like

[@dopeyged__721]

jackson was new too this (didn't know wat to say)

[@eek8605]

Shannon did have a point, dont get me wrong without question mj is the best sg ever to play to the game but what was he best at? Winning and defense = bill russell he took a 30 win team to 8 straight and 11 in 12 years and he wasnt a great scorer he did average 15ppg which is aite but he was a defensive force Scoring = kareem i mean this man was the most unstoppable player in nba history the one individual with the unstoppable move or wilt chamberlain because he averaged 50ppg and 25 rebs and no one averaged more ppg when wilt chose to score Rebounding = wilt chamberlain thats not arguement Assists = magic johnson but id like to say johnny stockton he was the most complete pg to ever play and his passes werent flashy but smart All rounder = lbj no doubt Ill give mj one thing him and kobe = box office.. there are no 2 players with maybe allen iverson who were as fun to watch as kobe and mj

[@silentcriminal03gaming]

Skip, why you bring up Michael Jordan everytime LeBron does something? Lol

[@CoachAdamYouhanna]

Can I come on the show? I would love to put everything into perspective for Shannon.

[@briab3980]

Ali always talked about how great he was and nobody says anything lol.

[@JSSTyger]

"You play more minutes so its pretty easy to get more points" Yeah but he had the endurance to play more minutes and that is the impressive part. Why did he just gloss over that fact like it meant nothing.

[@juniorhernandez9997]

I watched for Shannon's exposure and forgot that's why I was watching until the end 😂😂😂