Stephen King Novel Tier List Ranking - Part 2 - The Horror Show - Hail To Stephen King EP218

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THE HORROR SHOW Host Jaime' En Fuego here, along with an awesome assist from Cecil Laird, to proceed into our 4th Year of King coverage as I proceed through a five-part journey of doing a #TierListRanking of every single #StephenKing novel there is. We continue with his second decade of 1984-1993 on this very special new segment for #HailToStephenKing with YOU the Ka-Tet of viewers and fellow Constant Readers.
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[@dimitarvelev1765]

Thank you for 'rambling' for so long on each book! This serues has been a great watch/listen so far.

[@A_Lit_puppet]

My favorite part of these two videos is the dynamic between our two hosts, it’s really friend goals!

[@TheHorrorShowChannel]

Thank you!

[@mikesbookreviews]

Doing the work I'm too scared to do haha! Jaime has me very excited for my first reading of Talisman and I thought I was the only one alive that liked the Thinner adaptation. Enjoyed it, fellas!

[@danielcorey2156]

Mike's Book Reviews with you, Mike. Love the Thinner adaptation.

[@rayneeny]

I agree with the Tommy Knockers,its underrated in my opinion. Another great video Lads,thank you.

[@TheBubbabear70]

Another great show. You guys have knocked it out the park again. Great format.

[@daveedmunds1109]

Fantastic video. Really works having a co host to bounce off Fuego.

[@EverythingFear]

The Horror show, you make such great videos! My favourite of Kings novel's are 'The Stand' 'Misery' 'Insomnia' and 'Gerald's Game'

[@MisterTutor2010]

The Rick and Morty parody of Needful Things was awesome.

[@markpearson9269]

Great segment guys. Really enjoying it. And Fuegos right DOTT is far better that a C. I'm flabbergasted haha

[@carriehammond4407]

I’m loving these SK ranking vids and I actually agree with 99% of your choices x

[@Dansull123]

Totally got to use your tagline at the open mic last night when I saw someone reading King

[@JuanMartinez-ib7mz]

yeah!!!! been waiting for this

[@Cjt2277]

Thanks for this. So far I’ve just read The Mist and It by king and this is a real help to decide on which book I should get next. Also the effort and content is amazing

[@jackgatti8643]

S tier books for me are the entire dark tower series besides the gunslinger and wind through the keyhole. The stand, pet semetary, black house and insomnia are also in the S tier.

[@afin85]

We need part 3! Please!

[@MisterTutor2010]

I read The Eyes of the Dragon when I was a sophomore in high school in 1992.

[@thepopculturebuff5080]

For Updates on The Talisman Adaptation, The Project has shifted over to Netflix but still being in development at Amblin Entertainment with Steven Spielberg attached along with The Duffer Brothers, The Creators, Producers, and Directors of Stranger Things.

[@davidasince1985]

I was thinking during the first episode how much I liked the drawing of three

[@Lasombra08]

IT is my absolute favourite novel of all time, followed by 11/22/63. The only King novel I had fallen in love with before I even read a single page is Duma Key, though. I read the back cover and just knew. Easily on my S tier shelf.

[@SetConstantine]

I'm just so glad you don't think The Gunslinger is the worst of The Dark Tower series, it's my fave by far.

[@redvitaminblue]

It's always fascinating to see how readers rank King books. I've never once seen two rankings which are exactly the same (which is the best part). However, one thing that does appear to be the same: "IT" is always top-tier, AND people always seem to qualify that book's high ranking by distancing their opinion of it from the infamous sewer scene. Personally, I think this response is mostly the result of projection and collective gaslighting, not clarity. If people had a working knowledge of Freud or Jung, that scene confronts the reader much differently. And to highlight a persistent asymmetry, what happens to a pre-adolescent Sam Peebles in "Library Policeman" is far more graphic and far more vulgar than what happens to the Loser's Club in "IT" -- at least for the Losers there was mutual consent, for young Sam there was none.

[@Lasombra08]

Thank you. When talking about The Library Policeman, most people don't even deem what happens to young Peebles worth mentioning, even though that scene is far worse than that rather tame one in IT.

[@christianbank6994]

you predicted "Welcome to Derry" TV show 11:20

[@steviekaiser9974]

The drawing of the three is a fucking masterpiece in my opinion and I'm shocked a dt fan isn't obsessed as well... at least you recognize wastelands and WnG are fucking epic!!!

[@connor638]

Agreed with your drawing of the three. Least favorite dark tower

[@Roland_Deschain_of_Gilead19]

You mentioned the odd ending to It and I completely agree. That being said , there is a connection to the Dark Tower series in that weird ending. The animal that helps the gang finish Pennywise is a turtle. I believe the words are something to the extent of “the turtle holding up the world”. Of course the remaining beam in the dark tower is treated directly to a turtle. I think you should go back and check it out, it’s at least interesting although I could be completely wrong. When you mentioned the drawing of the three, you said it got a little long in the tooth and wasn’t a great book in the series which still makes it better than most books I’ve ever read. But, if you would listen to the audio version narrated by Frank Muller it might make that book absolutely amazing for you and anyone else who cares to listen to it; especially with Roland talking about the clearing of the customs for Eddie Dean

[@Erevan16]

Talisman is still my #1 King book. I love it.

[@fancywaffles]

Interesting! For drawing of the three, I'm actually the opposite. I prefer the stuff that happens in the real world over Mid-world. And I enjoy Tommyknockers as well. There are some really cool ideas in it.

[@ryanhlfc]

But S E King said the Tommyknockers was awful

[@demonbadger86]

Christines ranking upsets me - I love that book

[@Lasombra08]

You're not alone. I love it, too.

[@stufffstufffington]

I ignored it for a long time because I thought the concept was dumb, but I read it a few months back an now I think it's one of my favorite King books. A dumb concept done really really well.

[@anthonylambson6398]

The talisman is one of the only King books I couldn't get through. From what I've read it would rank as D tier, but I'll have to give it a try at some point again.

[@OrcmanRepugnant]

Dude.... I guess it's all about opinion. But.... there's a few in B and C that I would reverse but yeah nice video. I appreciate your knowledge of the great man. BTW I think the 90's was his best decade.

[@adamrenfrow]

It is the greatest SK book. IMO.

[@jordanackley6186]

All Dark Tower...S for me dawg

[@AllenFreemanMediaGuru]

Interesting, I have not read “The Talisman” but you gave it an “A” and every review I’ve seen they actually hated it.

[@MisterTutor2010]

IT Floats up to S tier :)

[@anncoster7458]

I think the entire Gunslinger series should be rated S. Breaking it into segments distorts the whole thing.

[@stufffstufffington]

They are separate books so it makes sense to rank them separately. Personally I thought the first book was awful, I thought the second book was just okay, but the third and fourth books blew me away.

[@danielcorey2156]

Are these tier ranking things available online somewhere for anyone to access? Just curious.

[@Lasombra08]

Tiermaker.com , I think.

[@TheHorrorShowChannel]

I believe so but I just make my own in Photoshop so i can add graphics and whatnot.

[@patcoston]

11:36 What is the G.B. in IT?

[@Lasombra08]

That one sex scene.

[@TheHorrorShowChannel]

Gang Bang

[@patcoston]

@@TheHorrorShowChannel Gang Bang noun definitions: (1) the successive rape of one person by a group of people (2) an instance of violence involving members of a criminal gang. I don't think Gang Bang is right word. Bev was not raped. It was her idea and consensual. Orgy is not the right word either, because the boys didn't have sex with each other.

[@Lasombra08]

@@patcoston I can't believe I'm writing this, but that definition of gang bang is slightly outdated. The modern idea of a gang bang (with regards to pornography) is quite consensual. But I dunno. This is not really worth discussing. 😄

[@srijanmallick98]

I'm from India and yet I wasn't even aware that there exists an Indian adaptation of IT 😂

[@TheHorrorShowChannel]

Oh thank goodness. Lol

[@smsimms7593]

I'm one of those weirdos who enjoys Drawing of the Three and The Gunslinger more than the later entries, with the second book being my favorite, but I was also a teenager when I first read them, so I'm sure there's some bias. However, I do respectfully disagree that The Tommyknockers is a better book. There are two or three moments I recall vividly from Tommyknockers, whereas the world he created with Drawing of the Three is far more memorable, IMHO.

[@donrohrbaughiii6367]

Finishing up Salems Lot today. Any recommendations on what Stephen King to read next? I'm spending this year trying to knock out alot of his books. I've also read The Shinning, Doctor Sleep, first 3 of the Dark Tower, and The Mist so far

[@cvmo666]

The stand is the best book I ever read..

[@ericw4377]

Friendly suggestion, but maybe take care not to go into too much detail on some of the descriptions. They sometimes move into spoiler territory.

[@TheHorrorShowChannel]

Well they are all shot at this point already, soooooo......hopefully it's not too bad?

[@Lasombra08]

@@TheHorrorShowChannel Mild to medium spoilers, I'd say. Maybe you could put a spoiler warning at the beginning of the video 😄

[@ericw4377]

@@TheHorrorShowChannel Thanks, no worries! I appreciate you making the videos in the first place. I agree with Lasombra, only mild to medium spoilers, nothing too bad.

[@TheHorrorShowChannel]

@@ericw4377 again, they are already shot and edited, and having not read the books, I cant tell ya how spoilery they are. Head over to the Hail to Stephen King facebook group and check with Fuego!

[@stufffstufffington]

I didn't really like Gerald's Game or Dolores Clayborne that much compared to King's other stuff, but I definitely thought Dolores Clayborne was better than Gerald's Game. The link between the two seemed pointless and inconsequential. Nothing at all would have changed if you take it out.

[@sydasaurus]

My aunt hates horror, but she told me that The Talisman is her favorite book. I warned her she probably wouldn’t like Black House though, lol.

[@deelak2329]

Drawing of the three being a C is a joke haha

[@MrA5htaroth]

"Long in the tooth" means "old" and not "lengthy"...at least in British English. Maybe it's simplified in american English, I dunno.

[@TheHorrorShowChannel]

Eh, I think you are essentially correct, but at this point it's kinda been co-opted enough by people that didn't know that, that the officials were like "eff it, that's what it means now, too". Happens a lot in America unfortunately. However, to play Devil's advocate, one COULD say an old person has had quite a lengthy life, no?

[@Nomathomas2201]

Great list but lots of spoilers

[@smsimms7593]

"Long in the Tooth" does not mean "overly long" or "long-winded". It means "old", as in a receding gum line making an older person "long in the tooth"...

[@craigsovilla7225]

Too many spoilers. Learn to watch it dude.

[@TheHorrorShowChannel]

We'll do these how we want, thanks.

[@craigsovilla7225]

@@TheHorrorShowChannel It's pretty counter intuitive to mention spoilers in a "tier list" video series. Most of the people watching are newer readers of King, much like myself. So if you want to keep putting out lackluster content (and ignoring constructive criticism) by all means that's your right! You may have even had a subscriber in me (and who knows how many others) had you watched your tongue and kept spoilers out. But like you said, make them how you see fit!

[@TheHorrorShowChannel]

@@craigsovilla7225 you have no idea what percentage of our viewers are new readers vs old readers. The point of these is for Fuego to explain WHY he places the books where he does. And that “i could have been a subscriber” line isnt the threat you think it is. Lol. We’d rather people that like our content stick around, not people that immediately attack the content when the creator doesnt say “oh my god you are SO right!” Just because you give what you call “constructive” criticism does not mean we have to oblige it.

[@craigsovilla7225]

@@TheHorrorShowChannel Bottom line, if you can't review material without including spoilers, you should look for other ways to review content. All I'm saying dude.

[@paddymc5498]

@@craigsovilla7225 honestly mate, get a grip, it was a great and informative video, read the books before hand if you don't want very minor spoilers.

[@profd65]

Thanks for the spoilers, bro.

[@TheHorrorShowChannel]

@@profd65 you’re welcome. The whole point of these is for him to explain why he places everything where he does. Pretty pointless otherwise.

[@profd65]

@@TheHorrorShowChannel Ah, that must explain why nobody else's ranking videos contain spoilers unless expressly stated. But I guess these videos are "pointless."

[@TheHorrorShowChannel]

@ eh, that’s the way we looked at it.