Stephen Kinzer ─ Poisoner in Chief: Sidney Gottlieb and the CIA Search for Mind Control

The visionary chemist Sidney Gottlieb was the CIA’s master magician and gentlehearted torturer-the agency’s “poisoner in chief.” As head of the MK-ULTRA mind control project, he directed brutal experiments at secret prisons on three continents. He made pills, powders, and potions that could kill or maim without a trace-including some intended for Fidel Castro and other foreign leaders. He paid prostitutes to lure clients to CIA-run bordellos, where they were secretly dosed with mind-altering drugs. His experiments spread LSD across the United States, making him a hidden godfather of the 1960s counterculture. For years he was the chief supplier of spy tools used by CIA officers around the world.
Stephen Kinzer, author of groundbreaking books about U.S. clandestine operations, draws on new documentary research and original interviews to bring to life one of the most powerful unknown Americans of the twentieth century. Gottlieb’s reckless experiments on “expendable” human subjects destroyed many lives, yet he considered himself deeply spiritual. He lived in a remote cabin without running water, meditated, and rose before dawn to milk his goats.
During his twenty-two years at the CIA, Gottlieb worked in the deepest secrecy. Only since his death has it become possible to piece together his astonishing career at the intersection of extreme science and covert action. Poisoner in Chief reveals him as a clandestine conjurer on an epic scale.

[@15nanoseconds]

I find it absolutely fascinating that the author seems to extend so much effort in saying, in essence, "the government has concluded that there's really no such thing as mind control...doesn't really work." Am I the only one who finds this fishy??

[@dogbums8548]

No, you’re not, it’s definitely fishy af. He’s spreading half truths with misinformation. Mind control is not a myth. They use people like him to ‘debunk’ stuff so people stop questioning.

[@livingwater3581]

and u both on google platform 😁🐨🐼🐸📴⚛✡🔯

[@15nanoseconds]

@@livingwater3581 in response to your emojis...yeah, I want off the grid and world peace too and yet here we are. LOL Edit: soooo maybe you don't want world peace? 666?

[@god5535]

Not only that there was subtle sotto voce vilification of LSD... not that I have tried it, but just look around. Lot of medical benefits.

[@nicolasdelaforge7420]

He isn't looking beyond the book's subject. Today, we've moved forward into mastering the human domain (as we mastered the other domains, 6 in total). earth sea air cyber outer space cognitive (new i.e. the way we process information with our brain " the human mind is now being considered as a new domain of war. ") There's also geospatial intelligence, which monitors people's thoughts and a Selection process to torment and torture those who don't fit the cognitive mapping. But no one can replace your mind, put in another mind instead, just yet. Though efforts are on the way. However, it is certain that people can be made to lose contact with Reality and become reliant on one authority. This, for sure.

[@hixidom2274]

You can in fact make a person who is opposed to murder go out and murder, using these techniques. They're still doing it to this day.

[@slumdogtrillionaire304]

I found it strange that he seemingly drilled home the point the it isn't possible to do such a thing. That was very odd to me, it makes me wonder about this individual here.

[@grace_alone_toward_repentance]

Yes, they are - no doubt about it. The book tells lies. Never trust everything the government says, even if it seems to be transparent and honest. I am a targeted individual, so I fully understand how they can condition your mind into doing things that are complete against your morale. I have no idea why I'm targeted, but I think a handful of psychopaths, (women who were obsessed with me on the Internet), decided to find a way to manipulate the FBI and CIA into targeting me. It's really messed up.

[@grace_alone_toward_repentance]

​Same here. He's either speaking from a place of ignorance, or he's spreading lies.

[@peggydeforest2882]

Or he's trying to not end up un alived after truthing

[@slumdogtrillionaire304]

@peggydeforest2882 Right. But either way, I believe he's deliberately being untruthful. I think he knows better.

[@readingbetweenthelines416]

I used to buy LSD from a guy that went to Stanford. He would fly into Arizona every few months and sell books of acid. He said it was made in lab at Stanford and Berkeley. This was in the 90’s.

[@mindsigh4]

yes, drug dealers are at the top of my list for people beyond reproach, second only to maybe pimps and real estate agents. 🙃

[@EliasAlias]

Get the book -- "Acid Dreams" -- by Martin A. Lee and Bruce Shlain, published in 1985. This book will give yet more insight into CIA's LSD capers, and is extremely well documented. Photos in the book include Gottlieb, Hubbard, CIA's Richard Helms, General Creasy (US Army), Aldous Huxley, etc. Factual and extremely informative.

[@leswhitetrash697]

LSD was so risky back then, as there was no Trip Advisor™.

[@russellbeverly94]

Lmao 🤣

[@sebthehappysoul9573]

Bruh💀

[@user-xp5jz6dh5y]

These programs are still in effect. But the (confirmed) technology used to achieve the same goals are far more dangerous than LSD. It should be an interesting future.

[@greedyfirstalgorithmlast26]

I find it absolutely fascinating that the author[Stephoin Kinzer] seems to extend so much effort in saying, in essence, "the government has concluded that there's really no such thing as mind control...doesn't really work." Am I the only one that finds this fishy?? Well Stephen Kinzer is a goddamn liar and plagiarizer, this Book is plagiarized from Tom O'Neill's study ofthe CIA, and the secret History of the Sixties. I asked Tom about Kinzer, s book and Yes, Kinzer plagiarized. Hell I remember when Sidney Gottlieb went to South America to study Psychedelics He was in TIMES MAGAZINE COVER and I Read it. I was born 1949.

[@brutalblunthonesty8355]

What are they called now

[@sr2291]

@@brutalblunthonesty8355 Probably Virtual Reality is one. I'm glad that wasn't used on me. I might have not survived.

[@mattstiglic]

If you think the governments/intelligence agencies/NGOs/philanthropists involved in this just washed their hands and said "Nope, doesnt work. Bin it." Then i have a bridge to sell you. Also, for an EXTREMELY thoroughly researched and top tier documentary regarding MKUltra i HIGHLY recommend The Minds Of Men by Aaron and Melissa Dykes. Be prepared.

[@Brianbeesandbikes]

How the hell can he be BOTH a spiritual humanist AND a sociopath? Craycray how utterly accepted this was... horrified by the prospects of what now IS in these areas of torture.

[@Sure_Raea]

Yes that’s why I had to give it a thumbs down... I really enjoyed the video until the end when he tried to humanize him😑 he used my brothers like lab rats ( most of them are in jail for crimes they didn’t commit we all know this by now)

[@danakuss2567]

There ARE pro social psychopaths. Let me help educate you. Psychopathy is simply the new mutation, it’s the progression of humanity from hind brain/reptilian brain (I mention this because of the conspiracies of reptilians might be a subconscious revelation). We know in science that frontal lobe brain development is the new development. Well, psychopaths are the new humans, where there is a literal severing of nerves from the limbic brain which contains the fight or flight systems of our primitive ancestors. We no longer need it. Like our tails, these hardware will stop being used. So there is a range or spectrum of psychopathy, on one end, the lack of anxiety from the hindbrain fuels curiosity in what can be done with that adaptation like the very rare occurrence of torture and murder. Much more common are people like Steve Jobs, and corporate America, using their lack of empathy to ride to the top of excellence and industry. Most psychopaths are pro social, we just don’t know they are new humans. They abhor child abuse not because they feel compassion, but because of high principles. Most of us are in between now, we feel less emotions that are base from fear, and more complex frontal lobe thought operations. We are evolving, we need to educate about it.

[@markrowe3013]

Good point!

[@reasontruthandlogic]

> How the hell can he be BOTH a spiritual humanist AND a sociopath? As soon as that was said my fake news alarm bells (always on high alert in these post-truth days) went off. Can only conclude that this whole video is designed to smear all peaceniks and protesters as evil psychopaths (the most essential character trait required for a top position in USA government these days).

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

the road to hell is paved with good intentions

[@Ipadstands]

I am not sure Kinser's conclusion about Gottlieb's conclusion that mind control is not possible can be concluded yet. To me the jury is still out.

[@tappantoby]

Mind control is possible. just look at all the school shootings like the Ft. Lauderdale high school shooting ...that also introduced The Hogge Boy

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6CxeZadn5mYgas&ab_channel=VoidisyinyangVoidisyinyang Read H.P. Albarelli's final book, "A Secret Order" - Albarelli wrote the first book on Gottlieb

[@MrRugbylane]

So mind kontrol didnt work? Sirhan Sirhan, Mark Chapman, John Hinkley Jnr may not agree with that conclusion.

[@reasontruthandlogic]

Mind control is easy. You just need to own most of the MSM, or to own its owners.

[@presterjohn1697]

@@tappantoby Actually the phenomena of unprovoked mass killings of unarmed human is quite common in US history and predates CIA experiments. See: American Genocide by Benjamin Madley.

[@ghargahrbynks7688]

In Chaos, Tom O'Neill mentions Gottlieb's work possibly working in Haight Ashbury and the Summer of Love. It involved Manson and his family. Manson was allowed to do a ton of crimes while on parole and not arrested until the fall after the Tate/La Bianca murders.

[@sr2291]

I don't care what O'Neal claims. Manson never said anything about MKULTRA.

[@ghargahrbynks7688]

@@sr2291 O’Neil never claims he did. The book outlines how people were allowed to do drugs and taught how to train people. Who would do that but CIA agents invested in MK ultra.

[@shanekonarson]

@@sr2291 O’Neil would wipe the floor with the this guy with the amount of extra information he has in comparison to this guy . Limited hangout

[@sr2291]

@@shanekonarson I personally knew a Satanist who was doing and bragging about MKUKTRA type of abuse in Hollywood in 1968. He was a musician and died at age 29. Manson was a loser.

[@mattstiglic]

Look into Dave McGowans books on these subjects as well: Programmed to Kill, and Weird Stories Inside Laurel Canyon.

[@vivalaleta]

Vividly brilliant and full of integrity, an increasingly rare flower. I can't wait to read his books.

[@williamballz4462]

Thanks for taking this story on Mr. Kinzer. Lots of folks would not touch this. A big budget movie is warranted.

[@kdcruz75]

By hollywood, another mass mind control psyop operation...

[@michaelmorrow2900]

But to make a movie about this would fulfill mk ULTRA s agenda

[@cat3584]

World wont be fixed by any one piece or form of media

[@TaraConti]

Not everything has to be turned into a movie…

[@pedroghirotti]

​@@kdcruz75by the Zionists

[@KathleenMcCormickLCSWMPH]

AI is the new MKULTRA. You can bet all this is even worse now.

[@sonafabix]

Why is google censored in China?

[@kenosabi]

@@sonafabix because everything is? Lmao

[@sr2291]

Yeah one of those virtually reality head gadgets would have been bad.

[@kassfischer5146]

It is. It involves neuroscience, brain decoding, brain-computer interfaces, and nanotechnology microchips. Check out “magnetogenetics”. Also, synthetic (technological) telepathy. The military used this first in 2008 in Iraq. It’s called “Silent Talk”. Understand that this telepathy in an uninformed person would be like their own thought/idea. The inception of false flag terrorist/ mass shootings can be orchestrated using this.

[@cat3584]

Both

[@MrRugbylane]

This is very impressive "Gatekeeping". A real assessment of MK Ultra would include Hinkley, Chapman & Sirhan.

[@troylemon7379]

Where do you find out about these people

[@MrRugbylane]

Down lots of rabbit holes! Lets just look at Hinkley.... their family was friendly with the Bush Family (ie the VP at the time) but I promise you that NEVER came up in the media.at the time. If you look at Hinkley and Chapman, both of the went on 'trips around the World'(as we all do) before reappearing

[@presterjohn1697]

@Stephen Lane - Nice one. I was thinking the same on the Gatekeeping.

[@presterjohn1697]

@Stephen Lane - Annie Jacobsen. Another gatekeeper.

[@GreatTruth123]

@Derby Danger hey I’m currently doing research on the CIA’s Project: MKULTRA II (MKULTRA-Neuralink).

[@SamSilk]

Sidney Gottlieb served as a source of inspiration for several fiction works: the tv series "the Pretender" (one of the mad scientists of the "Centre" was even named Sidney), and the original Ludlum novels about Jason Bourne, Bourne himself being a result of these experiments.

[@johngilham1719]

One may count this man Agency plugged. May be CIA himself. This is not unknown. Photos of Gottlieb have been around & his whole story out there a long time. Gottlieb spent his last years in hospice work. Said he wanted to get on the side of the angels after so long being on the side of the devils. Loved the Pretender. Saw the connections too. Mass Control documented it well. Also Monarch The New Phoenix Program on KZbin. Seems they pay their own now to tell their horror story. A limp. No a clubbed foot.

[@jkoko724]

Stranger Things Dr. Brenner

[@echohotel7975]

@@johngilham1719 do you know of any documentary's about him ?

[@trukeesey8715]

@@johngilham1719 I met him again 30 years after he tortured me. He was "retired" (not really) from CIA in Washinton VA, and had founded a county's arts council. Another similarly "retired" CIA man had founded an arts council in a county in Tennessee. I got the impression that the CIA was behind the wave of counties' arts councils.

[@trukeesey8715]

@Tijjy O Surely. I was at age five and it was a few months after Sid's appointment to be headman of MKUltra (I learned later in life's time). It began a few weeks before when I took a misunderstandin of "God" based upon my mother's word about him, sayin that he does everything. I suffered from unbearable indigestion and asked her did "God" cause that? She had to say "yes". Then I stuck my tongue out at the sky, in the belief that that was where "God" was situated. My rejection of "God" I believe had to be a pre-requisite for my bein unprotected against what I have seen clairvoyantly as "the reptilians". In most cases they are not goin to be as sadistic as Gottlieb was, though. It seems reasonable to me that some coven involvin one of my dad's friends and possibly Gottlieb himself cast a spell of temptation against me in hopes that I would succumb to the temptation to turn against God. Without that, they would not have been able to proceed against me. About 2 weeks before the torturin session, my parents or maybe the tv used the word "torture" and I asked of them what it meant. Shortly afterward a telepathic, unseen entity told to me that I would be tortured in two weeks. This did not bother me, but I took it as neutrally as if you would have said "there is a pebble by the side of the road". I had been taken habitually to a good pediatric dentist on K street in Washinton, which was then (1953) a few blocks of mostly professional offices, but last I heard had become a neighborhood of corporate headquarters for purpose of lobbyin congress. A man lived in our neighborhood, whose family was close false friends with our family, a contact my Dad made through the local (DC) democratic party. His name was Jack Lichtenberg, and he was a vice president of the Potomac Electric Power Company (PEPCO) which I years later saw to be dumpin gray water into the Potomac River upstream from Seneca Creek where a high rise buildin belonged to them among the farm fields. I am goin to submit this and continue in a new comment, so that you can get started readin it.

[@Silo8924]

This guy is smiles a little too much while describing the tortures and murders.

[@justme8841]

who knows what he is upto

[@AnaLuizaHella]

After half an hour watching how thrilled and enthusiastic he is I started thinking that he's envious of Gottlieb 's research. I came to see if I was the only one. 😂

[@ShaareiZoharDaas]

Misses the operation paperclip which came first which is odd.

[@vaudreelavallee3757]

The link between MK Ultra and Enhanced interrogation was made by Naomi Klein - in her book The Shock Doctrine - but also in a short film that you can find all over youtube that she made with Alfonso Cuaron. The graduate student went further than that, but that would have been a place to start is to see what she had.

[@MicahCTheory]

I like listening to these free lectures and learning a lot, but boy, what would I give for one, just one, that doesn’t have a 40 minute introduction before the speaker is even allowed to get to the subject!

[@anthonyv6962]

For a guy who wrote a book on this subject I'm curious why he would say "inject them with sedatives almost to coma and then barbiturates to make the hyper active." He should know A barbiturate is a drug that acts as a central nervous system depressant. Barbiturates are effective as hypnotics, and anticonvulsants, not stimulants.

[@ryanchase2873]

I caught that too; figured he misspoke and meant benzedrine or methamphetamine

[@rvarnell9165]

He is SO clearly uninformed. It saddens me that critical thinking has become so rare as to allow this person to be published. I'm ashamed.

[@curbozerboomer1773]

@@rvarnell9165 Should we all bow down to your superior intellect?

[@greedyfirstalgorithmlast26]

I find it absolutely fascinating that the author[Stephoin Kinzer] seems to extend so much effort in saying, in essence, "the government has concluded that there's really no such thing as mind control...doesn't really work." Am I the only one that finds this fishy?? Well Stephen Kinzer is a goddamn liar and plagiarizer, this Book is plagiarized from Tom O'Neill's study ofthe CIA, and the secret History of the Sixties. I asked Tom about Kinzer, s book and Yes, Kinzer plagiarized. Hell I remember when Sidney Gottlieb went to South America to study Psychedelics He was in TIMES MAGAZINE COVER and I Read it. I was born 1949.

[@cat3584]

He made a mistake

[@samfawlia]

14:41 why does he smile while saying this

[@trukeesey8715]

He tortured me in 1953. As I just skim through this, it seems to be somewhat of a white-washin.

[@rosalindr4975]

So sorry.

[@trukeesey8715]

@@rosalindr4975 Thank you for your kindness.

[@originalmix2546]

how and where did it happen? How did you escape?

[@trukeesey8715]

@@originalmix2546 My dad was trying to be important in the democratic party around DC. Sid had just recently been appointed as headman of MKUltra. We knew then nothing about it, until decades afterward. My age was 5. I had been told that "God" caused my unbearable achings in stomach, so I turned against Him. That forfeited my protection. A prominent small hatted democrat, who was one of the vps of the local power company, advised my dad to switch pediatric dentists. Sid was not a dentist but had a dental office with dental equipment. He pretended to be a dentist at that time, early in his leadership of MKUltra. It is to be inferred that sid was already a trauma-based mental controlling programmer, and that his appointment was a way for him to get federal money for doing what he was already doing. He easily convinced my mother (who saw him as a superior) to forgo anaesthesia, then he drilled away a perfectly good tooth on the side of my mouth down to the gum's line, bit by bit, which was extremely painful. Somehow I saw it as an ordeal that I "must" endure, though I told my mother that it hurted too much, yet some kind of innate pride made me to say it in a calm voice. She said, "just try to endure it". Some weeks afterward, she realized that something had been wrong about the situation, and prayed to Jesus #1 of 2 for my being rescued. Because of that I then again had protection of "God", so was not further in the program. I never heard of any body else having undergone the same thing. Sid deleted all of the files when the investigation started. I recognized him 30 years afterward living in the same town as my parents. Not at first, but after I found out who he was I remembered the club foot, the voice, the "russian" New York accent. See, he had a club foot, and I thought that he was walking on his toes, but it was a club foot.

[@paavohirn3728]

I'm sorry to hear that. It's painful just to hear your story and I can't begin to imagine your experience. I hope you've found ways to heal. Some body-mind therapies are quite helpful for many, EMDR as well. Bessel van der Kolk's wonderful The Body Keeps the Score is an insightful book on the topic of trauma of you're intetested.

[@kevinsmith9502]

I wish we had KZbin back in the late 80s and early 90s .Being high on LSD with access to all the music and trippy psychedelic artwork.I love finding a new band and being blown away by them.😊😊😊

[@michelebroyles6941]

He sounds like he's enjoying telling us about this horrifying stuff way too much. He almost sounds like he admires it

[@poppyhimbo]

i thought the same thing, i didnt appreciate his delivery of this presentation

[@fbvamp]

Old school investigative journalist sound like this in interviews and lectures. It's the pride that they found what they think is the smoking gun and they are presenting you with the evidence

[@curbozerboomer1773]

@@fbvamp You are correct!....they are justifiably proud of their discoveries.

[@gabesmokeymartatom]

very narcisstic. gleeful to be able to be the center of attention.

[@rexxer2792]

In my humble opinion... I see it more as someone who is not cocky or enjoying the subject but he is telling a story and is caught up in the utter disbelief of the subject to be so audacious in their motives and even their ability to get away with it... Example could be ... A girl talking about another girl thinking she is going to take her man... A man talking about another guy trying to step up on him... Even a adult (Teacher Boss Parent) talking about a young persons excuses for "X" and how the adult is just supposed to believe this fantastic story...

[@captainfalcon8615]

The same techniques used to make people forget can be used by good people to help people remember and heal from these horribly inhumane and horrific things done to their mind/body/soul. Good will always prevail and evil will always fail.

[@user-xp5jz6dh5y]

Good doesn't always prevail, but the grass always cracks through the sidewalk.

[@dominikunterberger5516]

Great point Captain Falcon. Can you recommend any sources on that?

[@sr2291]

Intense mental overload and dustraction will make you forget.

[@Vigilantwarrior42]

Evil continues to prevail almost 100 years later

[@gregdavis7643]

​@@dominikunterberger5516They are starting to do a lot of research on MDMA and LSD for use with PTSD and ketamine and shrooms for depression.

[@tunnodule5166]

Charles Manson may have participated in these programs as well if i recall

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

Cinque, creator of Symbionese Liberation Army was a MKULTRA victim of Dr. Jolly West

[@billgatesfauciouchie1696]

When tim.leary was arrested he was celled right next to manson at vacaville state pen

[@redalertwagers]

Read Chaos by Tom Oneall

[@GoodmanMIke59]

@@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 #PattyHearst .... I've read two of his books. I'm trying to see how much of his stuff I believe. 99% facts I believe, not so much about the interpretation.

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

@@GoodmanMIke59 I was just reading "Trineday" books the past week and Dr. Jolly West was also called in to "control" Timothy McVeigh.

[@1958vintage1]

Owsley Stanley was the son of a Senator. He made the potent LSD that he fed to people and he created the wall of sound for the Grateful Dead.

[@curbozerboomer1773]

He wound up moving to Australia, and died a few years ago, in a one-car accident....He was in his 70s.

[@rosalindr4975]

I think (especially in Long Island, )the dead shows were part of experiment .

[@haveaseatplease]

Thank you Stephen Kinzer for this incredible book and the fascinating lecture. Thank you also too all the good people in the Watson Institute for facilitating this and so many other great lectures!

[@stephenspark9358]

Mind control is not a myth they released the internet and ppl freely give information all the time

[@alexandermathie66]

Are you vaccinated?.......the myocarditis jab....... nuff said

[@henningwitte2118]

Dr. Mengele worked for the CIA under Project Paperclip with names as Dr. Green, Dr. White, Dr. Black.

[@rosalindr4975]

He was in the dumbs too?

[@theweldmasster]

HOW nice of him to shout out students!

[@yatin2070]

You cannot insert a new mind but you can insert thoughts into peoples minds, through targeted media like the default feed or ads which you see on youtube or social media, thoughts which would make them take certain actions. Maybe a full mind control is not even required.

[@DisobedientSpaceWhale]

0:55 *wavey wavey* ...I also had to slow Kinzer down to 0.75x as he speaks so fast... very enthusiastic

[@justjess986]

That's interesting cause I sped him up to 1.25 lol that's probably due to my add though

[@GeertKok]

Satan is real. Even if you are stupid... proverbs 21:7 The violence of the wicked will drag them away, because they refuse to act...

[@danakuss2567]

God allows Satan his mission here. God is all powerful. He allows humans free will choice and created evil so we had a chance to learn goodness. It’s a dichotomy.

[@halilemrekocalar6537]

You said the truth.

[@Dawghome]

16:33. "Everything worked out in the end"?? How blaze and flippant!

[@nicolasdelaforge7420]

But today, we've moved forward into mastering the human domain (as we mastered the other domains, 6 in total). earth sea air cyber outer space cognitive (new i.e. the way we process information with our brain " the human mind is now being considered as a new domain of war. ") There's also geospatial intelligence, which monitors people's thoughts and a Selection process to torment and torture those who don't fit the cognitive mapping. But no one can replace your mind, put in another mind instead, just yet. Though efforts are on the way. However, it is certain that people can be made to lose contact with Reality and become reliant on one authority. This, for sure.

[@brunobucciaratiswife]

Just commenting to remind people: You are loved. If MK-Ultra has affected you or someone you love, I’m so sorry. Please keep on trucking

[@gingergrant6759]

Sidneys protégé was jolly West the man who drove Jack ruby insane overnight.

[@3rdeyekweenmaat899]

Thanks

[@will1718]

damn I would have questioned if there is anything similar to what he's read in Sidneys memos to what were hearing now about Covid-19

[@greedyfirstalgorithmlast26]

I find it absolutely fascinating that the author[Stephoin Kinzer] seems to extend so much effort in saying, in essence, "the government has concluded that there's really no such thing as mind control...doesn't really work." Am I the only one that finds this fishy?? Well Stephen Kinzer is a goddamn liar and plagiarizer, this Book is plagiarized from Tom O'Neill's study ofthe CIA, and the secret History of the Sixties. I asked Tom about Kinzer, s book and Yes, Kinzer plagiarized. Hell I remember when Sidney Gottlieb went to South America to study Psychedelics He was in TIMES MAGAZINE COVER and I Read it. I was born 1949.

[@philyeary8809]

Spot on.

[@victoriagore470]

His grandson is just as nad as Fauci

[@beastiegrl4eva]

Sidney gottlieb was my speech therapist when I was in Jr high circa 1991

[@conceptspecific204]

Wow, how was he in person?

[@beastiegrl4eva]

@@conceptspecific204 kind, gentle, quiet. Polar opposite of what you would expect knowing the things he did. It's like he was 2 different ppl. I even spent time at his house for a local 2 week film workshop for teens. House was amazing, indoor pool..but plainly decorated, humble even. My memory is patchy cos I'm 43 now. But I remember the feeling I got off of him and it was always positive and caring.

[@ceikkd6020]

Would you be willing to participate in an interview for a report I'm writing regarding today's version of programs like this one?

[@ceikkd6020]

Specifically for the character recall of a man highly disguised to blend into the fabric of normal society, while working as a federally appointed domestic espionage agent.

[@beastiegrl4eva]

@@ceikkd6020 I'm not sure how much insight I could give. By the time I met him, he was "out" of the government system, had been for quite some time. I'm interested in hearing more about ur report

[@aaronlopez717]

Oh what a dedicate person ! .. . .!0 years conducting the most Heinous Experiments His presentation or the tone of his voice, to me resonate like Oh that Wow is i have to deal with is over Continued the beneficial brain wash ( for control )

[@idoismorethaniq515]

Great content! This video needs millions of views!

[@n.a.mcintosh4697]

waiting for the book!

[@LUCIFERai]

Why did you not cover MKOFTEN

[@rampeloquin6044]

What level of multi-dimensional chess is currently being played? Manipulation can be shaped with computer modeling that continually gathers information, updated with AI efficiency. It's a weird world after all.

[@johnnypirate2255]

and here we are 2020 AI modeled earth lockdown

[@nicolasdelaforge7420]

But today, we've moved forward into mastering the human domain (as we mastered the other domains, 6 in total). earth sea air cyber outer space cognitive (new i.e. the way we process information with our brain " the human mind is now being considered as a new domain of war. ") There's also geospatial intelligence, which monitors people's thoughts and a Selection process to torment and torture those who don't fit the cognitive mapping. But no one can replace your mind, put in another mind instead, just yet. Though efforts are on the way. However, it is certain that people can be made to lose contact with Reality and become reliant on one authority. This, for sure.

[@elizabethabbott2982]

what would they do with a subject after they were turned into a compliant zombie?

[@jacpratt8608]

give him a triggering code word and teach him to shoot straight and point him at some 'enemy of the state'? J.Lennon for instance.😁

[@chanelkaliski]

Prob mental institution

[@seanmcdevitt6073]

holy moly; Sidney Gottlieb, wow

[@carolinawren3594]

has the dystopia professor Kinzer describes ever been more relevant than today? Mike Pompeo may not be Robert Gottlieb but the motivations and the mission sound oddly familiar.

[@nicolasdelaforge7420]

But today (2001- 2021) we've moved forward into mastering the human domain (as we mastered the other domains, 6 in total). earth sea air cyber outer space cognitive (new i.e. the way we process information with our brain " the human mind is now being considered as a new domain of war. ") There's also geospatial intelligence, which monitors people's thoughts and a Selection process to torment and torture those who don't fit the cognitive mapping. But no one can replace your mind, put in another mind instead, just yet. Though efforts are on the way. It will be through AI. However, it is certain that people can be made to lose contact with Reality and become reliant on one authority. This, for sure.

[@rexxer2792]

Joe Biden is a great president ... Lol ...

[@rosalindr4975]

@@nicolasdelaforge7420 it’s an insult to humanity

[@sr2291]

@@nicolasdelaforge7420 Looks like they won the Cognitive realm with a portion of the Republicans.

[@thomasmaxey3009]

I'm not a follower of Mr Kinzer and have not read any of his books. I had time tonight during a road trip to listen to this speech well I understand he's trying to keep his audience's attention his entire manner throughout the explanation of the information he found is a little bit cavalier for me. Sydney Gottlieb may have been a goatherd and organic farmer who was a brilliant chemist, but his involvement in this project, MK Ultra, betrays his true character. I just simply cannot accept that he was doing a job. I do know a little bit about the Olsen incident and it was covered up. Layer upon layer of disinformation was handed to that family as they just tried to find out the truth. People that know me know I have little respect for the people involved in the national Security apparatus. I don't think I'll bother to read this book unless I found myself with a lot of time on my hands. It was a horrific episode, and I doubt seriously if it's ever stopped considering the history of those involved in its development. All the talk about patriotism, an a cold war mentality, don't carry any weight with me. It was a criminal conspiracy, organized and staffed by criminals, and a trail of death and destruction laid in its wake. I just simply can't accept that as a bunch of good old boys that got a little carried away. As sinister as Alan Dulles was, and as entitled as he felt to do whatever he cared to do, the development of this program was probably something he was proud of.

[@chanelkaliski]

Well said

[@johnnybates7580]

I find the fact that Stephen would even touch this subject is, very surprising!

[@legalfictionnaturalfact3969]

Considering his status, there is likely disinformation in here.

[@marileesteele1804]

@@legalfictionnaturalfact3969 Like what? He's upfront about sources (hence name dropping). There are have been so many references to the Ultra program by so many others, I'm glad he connected the dots. I appreciate this startling book!

[@legalfictionnaturalfact3969]

@@marileesteele1804 yeah, ok, cool. like i said... assume there is disinfo included and keep an eye out.

[@dogbums8548]

@@legalfictionnaturalfact3969 the fact he said mind control is a myth is the first big fat warning sign. Its not a myth.

[@curbozerboomer1773]

@@dogbums8548 Paranoid much?

[@jeremysmith5919]

I love how Sidney Gottlieb spent years and years searching for the perfect mind control drug, never found it, and a few months ago I see a Vice video about scopolamine, which produces amnesia AND mind control. If these researchers only knew...

[@squintydoodoo]

Was just thinking this! I went to school with someone who used this to rob men he met on dating sites. He ended up murdering a couple of them with it, so I’m not sure how easy it is to dose people with this and it not be fatal

[@gregcaruth700]

Gottlieb lived close to Mount Pony in Culpeper. I've read that he did some work there. Now used as a film institute. Originally set up as a ''continuity of service'' site. Close is relative of course, but at one point he lived in Little Washington/Boston area. I have wondered if the lack of success he had with mind control was later improved by sexual ritual abuse SRA, where the mind is fractured, ie Cathy O'Brien and others. He was using drugs and some torture, but the later stuff on SRA is frightening. Maybe your NEXT book...

[@LiveLetDie]

Also in Culperer, a few years later The Finders www.washingtoncitypaper.com/news/article/13010819/finders-keeper

[@DorothyGTyas]

*_Sykphux will be sykphux...._* 💰☠💰

[@HenryCasillas]

Wow 👌

[@knightonlibrary1183]

At 20:35, should "barbituates" be "amphetamines"?

[@Brianbeesandbikes]

Kinzer's a bit too wrapped up in his performance, name dropping and self promotion, as important as the content of his book is.

[@BushyHairedStranger]

Thats a good observation(I caught it as well) sometimes certain drugs can work counterintuitive to their perceived mode of action, for instance, amphetamines work in hyperactive children/adults almost like a sedative at certain doses. Or in certain people Heroin sometimes acts like a stimulant-amphetamines or injecting cocaine. So perhaps in this particular use of torture the Barbiturates used served like stimulant....(?)

[@KathleenMcCormickLCSWMPH]

Most definitely

[@mzdtmp2]

Barbituates is old school umbrella term that had amphetamines stemming from them. Narcotic, until the legal definition was blended with regular 'ol lay speak, meant a drug specifically derived from Opium Poppy. It always irks me on COPS or something, when they find some harmless pot, and label it as "Narcotic". Just call it a "controlled substance" as umbrella term, and Narcotic for it's original use, but that'd keep things to clear and simple, lol.

[@curbozerboomer1773]

Yes, he made a goofy mistake there.

[@AnaLuizaHella]

50:09 "he and his guys in the CIA *were told* , of course, America always offers all kinds of legal and ethical and moral rules, but there once in a while comes a rare, exceptional moment when the threat to us is so intense that, very reluctantly, we must put those aside for just a short period of time. Funny that America is always under these *rare moments* and the *short period of time* never ends. Patriot Act.

[@danakuss2567]

Destruction is the first rule in creation.

[@spiritzweispirit1st638]

The Searched for' is Now Patented! _

[@sr2291]

First time I have seen the word magician used in a MKULTRA video (channel comments).

[@echohotel7975]

Magician is a joke

[@aa2339]

That Forrestall guy also jumped out a window.

[@trueknight7]

How do you know he actually was cremated, Or died

[@jetstone5717]

This guy should write a book

[@JosephOlson-ld2td]

“The Great Darkness - Children of MK-Ultra” by > TheTruthFactory on TheirTube

[@michelebourke4340]

something off about this guy. it struck me that he could be a tool (if his book becomes hugely popular)to deflect truth away from the current methods/chemicals/frequency /new science that the dark mic have already become proficient with?

[@legalfictionnaturalfact3969]

Ladie, we WILL know. These fux going to get doxxed

[@mzdtmp2]

@Ladiekadie The founders were not loyal to England and France, but loyal to Freemasonry, of which England and France were rip with, but slightly different flavors. All the lodges I'm sure knew of the "New Atlantis", and wanted it for themselves, but I think that was a result of infighting between lodges, human nature at it's finest. You figure not much longer, we were at war with France, the nation that bailed us out in the Revolutionary War. Either grand showmanship with an extremely elaborate play, or the result of infighting for power, but regardless, Freemasonry has it's finger prints on either side of that coin. And you're right, human nature for power and greed takes over, and those that could help spare the world, stay sold out for some pieces of silver and their souls. The real problems are the ones that believe whole heartedly that they are doing what is best for humanity, due to an arrogant and delusional view they are either "chosen by destiny" due to bloodline, or "wise and superior" due to many attained rights and degrees of this or that group.

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

His research was already done by H.P. Albarelli.

[@originalmix2546]

🎯

[@TylerDWard]

Shoutout to the Ancient Natives who learned all this from trial and error...He only wanted to document what they learned in writing

[@try-restart]

so sad.

[@oldmajor338]

Like Himmler, who carried with him a copy of the Bhagavad Gita on his hip, Gottlieb saw his evil doings as necessary and for the greater good, whatever that meant to him.

[@user-jy3ns5rv1k]

@Thymoteo Eevi They're just saying that that's what Gottlieb believed. Doesn't mean this person agrees with that perspective.

[@Brianbeesandbikes]

@Thymoteo Eevi Clearly Kinzer does not share Gottlieb's views, only pointing out how he justified them.

[@YahCityTech]

Corney wrong is wrong why complicate it with empty circular philosophical nonsence

[@mzdtmp2]

@@YahCityTech Because that's how the evil one's justify their evil. The better you understand your enemy, the better prepared you are in defense from the enemy.

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

read "The Religion of Technology" - apocalyptic Progress is well established in Western history

[@weinerdog137]

We must integrate a vast amount of contradictory povs.. that in itself opens the mind up to manipulation. I remember Robert Kennedy and Sirhan Sirhan. Do you?

[@kurtmeyer197]

Is this new dude Scott Gottlieb somehow related to Sidney ?

[@montanagal6958]

Wonder what he would say about the past few years...

[@georgeloquvam2550]

I met him at my uncle's house in 1968

[@originalmix2546]

and ? are you able to remember something more, how did he behave etc?

[@oldmajor338]

Nothing new here, not to disparage the author. This information has been out there for half a century. Lords of information have kept everyone distracted from it.

[@victorpate24]

Correct! I guess that his book is supposed add 'legitimacy'.... Also his presentation is eerie, because he seems way too excited about these horrible acts of human destruction

[@Brianbeesandbikes]

If you've any authors or links to share that offer better/ different content, consider sharing them? In the search for the power we have from being better informed ✊

[@BushyHairedStranger]

Brian Lacy ‘A Terrible Mistake’ by Hank Alberelli. Excellent book!! RIP Hank.

[@Brianbeesandbikes]

@@BushyHairedStranger thanks ; )

[@Brianbeesandbikes]

@@BushyHairedStranger Some decent yt segments too ... kzbin.info?search_query=cia+frank+olsen

[@tbrew8222]

Partly disinformation in this video (that it was not worth pursuing) At the time this was published there are many other subsequent programs that have gone underway (dot gov sources). If it is not worth continuing and went nowhere, they could never approve the funding for branching it out and continuing it in a multiplied fashion. Simply other project names, it is considered a different project Just like DARPA's "haarp" project.. Yeay they shut down the project called Haarp, but the military budget in the years to follow only allocate even more money towards weather modification than the haarp project ever needed.

[@weinerdog137]

Rationalisation for total control is not hard to understand...not everyone will rationalise the practice...THOSE are the sort of people that people could trust.

[@user-xp5jz6dh5y]

Correct

[@vincentmaddogcollsignalgan3718]

I found the speaking style when discussing torture extremely inappropriate.

[@curbozerboomer1773]

Why?....he is just telling it like it is.

[@legalfictionnaturalfact3969]

Mae brussell, the conspiracy Queen, is a must listen on this topic.

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

John Judge continued her work

[@smilemor-phony5964]

So is Colin A. Ross M.D. who wrote, 'The C.I.A. Doctors: Human Rights Violations By American Psychiatrists' and 'The Psychopath Machine' by Steve Smith. A remarkable book.

[@racangela2995]

He was watching The torture , wowww

[@bettywhite6672]

I was going to buy this book. After watching this I shall not. 😂 does anyone else think it bizarre that Gottliebs picture was not used on the cover of the book bc no one would recognize him !?!? So far quite interesting how the author is presenting this as a “funny haha lsd trip magic mushroom trip” when people were legitimately hurt not knowing they were given lsd.

[@melissahall2009]

Per the descriptions he is the total opposite of spiritual. Its no secret that's just a gaslighting technique to downplay those who are actually spiritual and nevertheless completely harmless.

[@Justshill]

I wonder how much of this book is exaggerated to increase book sales.

[@rosalindr4975]

None. He probably left out a lot of details

[@hulyaasal7523]

Most importantly we all know who brought the esoterica and all kind of laboratory jobs in Turkiye , salute 👍🏼😇

[@ShaareiZoharDaas]

This is the very reason no civilian project will ever be worth anything. MK ultra still exists and is trauma based look at videos of the most recent shooter in the subway system is an obvious example of this.

[@cat3584]

Cia didnt start the fire

[@user-xq4pi5nu7g]

The Occult Sciences of the Nazis and the Japanese? Yes! That ship qualifies!

[@electrix6751]

_"Gottlieb was born to Hungarian Jewish immigrant parents Fanny and Louis Gottlieb in the Bronx on August 3, 1918."_ Every. Single. Time. Or so it seems.

[@michaelmorrow2900]

The creation of virtual reality is part of the new mk ultra programs

[@user-xp5jz6dh5y]

It's incorporated

[@maxheadrom3088]

Is the Olsen crime been really solved?

[@echohotel7975]

I bet Tim Leary did know who Sydney Gotltieb was type in (Tim leary 1979 Mk ultra LSD party ) look who's at that pow wow

[@sr2291]

Tim Leary was a joke. I don't know of any real Hippies who honored him as any type of leader. He hung out with the wealthy musicians and actors.

[@echohotel7975]

@@sr2291 yeah I know who Leary hung out with and he wasn't a joke he had a pretty amazing life that many ppl would only dream to have but in reality I like Ram Dass or Richard Alpert I respect the work he did after his trip to India

[@sr2291]

@@echohotel7975 Do you have any information that will change my mind?

[@echohotel7975]

@@sr2291 I got better things to do than change some strangers mind I met him at the viper room in 1993 seems like a pretty good guy

[@sr2291]

@@echohotel7975 OK. So you liked a person based on briefly meeting him. Did you follow him?

[@alexandermathews9710]

yikes!

[@nzz2]

6:30 - invisible, most pwfl unknown American

[@TaraConti]

What in the hell is he talking about? Even I knew about Gottlieb 25 to 30 years ago! West and Gottlieb are synonymous with everything MK-ultra.

[@dancinina4592]

I wonder who is the poisoner in chief/s pulling the strings of the 4 years of my torture. Btw, not one Good Samaritan, not one person has visited or reached out without poisoning simultaneously (people that actually know something about my ACTUAL denied reality). Literally 4 years and not one person has cared. All alone isolated in this denied reality gaslight hellhole that used to be my hometown and nostalgic surroundings

[@SwiftLikeASamurai]

Guantanamo

[@Vigilantwarrior42]

His grandson Scott

[@RollinShultz]

All that work and all he had to do was register them as Democrats and give them a subscription to CNN.

[@justjess986]

That's hilarious!!!! Best comment here, hands down! Funny and sad at the same time due to how accurate and true it is! Add these 2 to the prescription just for the sake of pushing the boundaries just a little more (just shy of an overdose) and observe its results are terrifying, Looney 2.0 MSNBC (MSDNC) WASHINGTON COMPOST, ooops I MEANT POST

[@rosalindr4975]

Right? Half my family… the division is incredible.

[@RollinShultz]

@@paulthomas963 yes it was a satirical comment.

[@juliettedemaso7588]

#TrustScience…. 💉 💊 🐇

[@svenhanson398]

Too bad there is no transcript

[@marileesteele1804]

Always suspected Ginsberg's amazing "Howl" poem, like "Kubla Khan" (Coleridge), was written under the influence. Re Helm's, higher ups, lack of supervision, not wanting to know is "plausible deniability" (Reagan & O. North, Iran Contras).

[@jacpratt8608]

neither Ginsberg or Coleridge needed to be stoned on pot or laudanum to write either poem. they had imagination and observed the world.

[@LavenderLori406]

I think the fiction writers were CIA operatives conditioning and indoctrinating in preparation for this day

[@trueknight7]

Go look up George Devereux

[@ceikkd6020]

The guy from golden girls?

[@Brazilianknight9243]

Are there a brazilian 🇧🇷 around here?

[@kasspriscilla9350]

But I heard this this pisses me off to no end and I'll tell you something I was born in 66 and they didn't experiment on me people that have a rare condition of PKU well they took some of us off treatment and then they left some of us on treatment they were going to see what would happen to us if they took us off treatment and and in time I developed brain damage memory loss seizures and learning disabilities because of taking me off treatment they were experimenting to see what they would do to us if they stopped treatment so they did And it made my life a living h*** and whoever did this and I don't know who it was and they told my parents to do it And my parents listened to them and they did it It's made my life very hard and not only that they also had other people come into my life to isolate me from society to be totally dependent on them for whatever other things they could do to me now I'm not gonna get into a lot of detail about this but when I listen to this man about some of the things he said I can relate to it and yes it makes me angry there's a lot of victims that have been under this there's other things that happen to me very similar to the things he described but when you're a victim of this you want to get back you wanna Sue you wanna get even

[@The_New_Abnormal_World_Order]

The powers that be love to compartmentalise evil deeds.