Stephen Krashen: A Forty Years' War

[@rottentwapple]

I binge-watched Krashen's presentations. Though he repeats himself with those opening remarks and jokes, his eloquence is simply mesmerizing.

[@megalingual3215]

Agreed

[@joeldiaz5857]

rottentwapple Me too I’m on a binge watching a lot of his videos

[@rottentwapple]

@@ImprovingAbility nice anecdote. Thanks for sharing.

[@thanoschedelstein3304]

@@ImprovingAbility nice pasta

[@joelthomastr]

Someone should do a supercut

[@rusdayatiidrus5401]

I can hear the sound of sincerity in his speech which becomes compelling comprehensible input to my English development.

[@danielroy8232]

blew my mind to hear that fluency and accuracy are two different things.

[@ithinkthistimeitsgoingtowork]

This is probably the lecture I’m gonna send to people to introduce them to krashen, cause it’s just all his lectures put into one

[@danielroy8232]

this guy is a great example of intellectual humility. He was perfectly willing to prove his own life's work wrong.

[@ttien13]

I feel so lucky to be living in the same time as this guy.

[@ConnieFoster1]

Tried to learn Spainsh in high school and it was a giant failure. Tried to learn off and on in the years following. Finally was introduced to Krashen and Steve Kaufmann and learned HOW to learn a language. Currently working on my 4th language now. Its a pure shame how famously bad language teaching methods are in schools today

[@GORABELLS-de2wr]

I love the acoustics of this talk.

[@rusdayatiidrus5401]

I feel so much indebted to all my teachers for all their basic syllogism they introduced me to at the early years of my studies. Still, I feel I owe more to this kind hearted Prof who shares his knowledge so generously on You tube.

[@pauld3327]

I have had more than 10 english teachers over the years. Not a single one of them taught me how to learn english. My english teachers were useless to me. I wish I had known Stephen Krashen when I was 14, hr probably would have changed my life.

[@yongxianinternationalstudi5757]

We are native Chinese speakers and we live in Germany. My son acquires Mandarin, English and German as his first languages. I do the same thing too. My German is catching up.

[@jasonzhang2643]

Keep up the good work! I am raising my kid in US and my native language is also Chinese. I am confident that my kid will speak fluent English but I am a little worried about their Chinese. >_

[@yongxianinternationalstudi5757]

@@jasonzhang2643 Pleasure reading is the best way for improving the second language. You have to find lots of interesting books written in Chinese, and you read to your child, so your child acquires listeningand reading simultaneously. Speaking and writing are the result of listening and reading. Watching Chinese-language cartoons or other interesting videos can also help a lot. Make sure to find a lot of resources so that your child has lots of options to read or watch. Listening to audio materials helps little because it is difficult for children to concentrate since the environment is English speaking.

[@yongxianinternationalstudi5757]

@@jasonzhang2643 Adults are strong, so we have strong wills to make things happen. Children must be guided to make things happen. We must sacrifice a lot to help children. Please contact me anytime and I will share my experience with you.

[@yongxianinternationalstudi5757]

Through reading Manchu-Chinese bilingual documents, I also acquired Manchu into a high level of reading and translating. You can see samples in my channel. I also acquired Mongolian this way. Language acquisition has been proved correct in my practice. It just takes a lot of patience. When you feel difficult, do not give up. Just retreat a little, rest, reflect, improve, and then continue. Language acquisition is life changing and we get stronger in the process.

[@yongxianinternationalstudi5757]

There are many Chinese story books online, with beautiful pictures. Just google them and read to your child, on a daily basis. Do it a little everyday, not a lot once a week.

[@Hebamagdy43]

amazing lecture, time flies with it. I wanna try it in my next target language.

[@WaffleCake]

41:38-43:00 This case-study here about "Paul" and the unimportance of motivation is BIG.

[@user-ox9wg1jj9w]

this lecture is compelling

[@iwonnagwizdalska2829]

It is exelent lecture. Tkanks.

[@medea6341]

1:21:38 "I'm done, please burst into wild applause."

[@dongmeilyu9688]

thank you.such a wise man.

[@vvvetohin]

Thanks! As for me, the only one reason why this method still doesn't used by schools and universities - this is a great tragedy and big commercial loss for all of that "edicational authority institutes". Great.Thanks again!

[@joaomarcoscarvalho10]

Wonderful! I watched the entire video. Krashen is fascinating!

[@ungraud6553]

The anthropological study about the polyglot culture in the Vaupés River area that he discusses at 1:03:30 is called "Multilingualism in the Northwest Amazon", published by Arthur P. Sorensen Jr. in 1967. I just spent an hour looking for it online, so I thought I should share it here to save others the trouble of looking for it. According to the study, the average member of this culture speaks about 3 to 4 languages when he comes of age, and may acquire additional languages over the course of his life by learning some words from others and through passive listening.

[@olesya3540]

Just brilliant! Thank you Mr Krashen

[@learningenglish7871]

I trust historical studies and I love his humor. how I could to read journals relating to acquisition of learning English. I started it from scratch. I was taught the way of natural acquisitions by language school called ILSC in Montreal. Yes. it worked tremendously well.

[@BigPuffDaddy]

It honestly shocks me to see someone his age so verbally fluent. My father is the same age, and I can barely have a conversation with him

[@arccosinusopinion2323]

I am 31 and I am not that fluent in my native language)

[@tuntunbambam8766]

ty so much for your knowledges

[@danielroy8232]

I can't help but wonder if these principles of conmprehensive input could be applied to learning a musical instrument. maybe it's not the same.

[@sinajml5092]

Yes, yes, yes!! there are mind-blowing similarities.

[@RealLYS]

Why? Why the education authorities didn't listen to this old man. This is a world change matter but nothing was changed in the past 40 years in the second language school teaching.

[@jamesmccloud7535]

The education system has remained the same for decades with little change. Not just with language, it is what it is. Old habits die hard

[@codeunreal8097]

Great lecture but a real shame that there is this constant noise in the audio track. Couldn't you clean this up (denoise it) and re-upload it?

[@chewee2k]

At 21:06 he says, "no one was more disappointed than me," and then goes on to say "I have a Ph.D. in grammar." Hello!

[@lucasferreira-jornadadaflu6914]

My man got jokes non stop lmao.... On a serious note though he's such a deep well of knowledge !

[@giancolabird]

Too bad they are never funny jokes. Respect to the man for the info

[@jamesmccloud7535]

​​@@giancolabird A lot of those jokes he also made in other live talks and the audience laughed at them. All subjective

[@yongxianinternationalstudi5757]

Grammar rules are habits. Native speakers just developed those habits since their childhood.

[@zacjl6889]

54:47 I burst out laughing here. I remember reading a linguistics paper, incredibly confused as to why it was saying "n+1 level", feeling the entire time like the author was describing something in the most roundabout and obfuscated way possible. I guess I have some insight now.

[@balumfull]

I love his humour. thanks for the video. ᖁᔭᓐᓇᒥ

[@baldguyrich]

Dr. Krashen, while your insights into language acquisition theory were intriguing, I found it difficult to engage fully in your lecture due to your early expression of bias against a political figure. As an enthusiast of your work, I believe maintaining political impartiality is essential when discussing academic topics. Why alienate 50% of the country just becuase you don't like orange man?

[@bartliu3158]

非常感谢，收获蛮大的。

1:13:40 Steve Kaufman. Krashen citando a Kaufman

1:13:00 Gramática sí o no?

[@matteomagurno3068]

11:08

[@jimcrown21]

what is this?

[@clotho5437]

No wonder i like decaf

[@jonallen7619]

Shut the fuck up, you don't know shit about language learning

[@tripik426]

Bruh this audience is DED

[@jamesmccloud7535]

Yeah but great talk nonetheless. Other live lectures that Sir Krashen did the audience was more responsive

[@tripik426]

@@jamesmccloud7535 yeah, I agree, Stephen Krashen is the GOAT.

[@luigibaker7713]

Unfortunately, the following this man has reflects very poorly on some people's critical faculties. He clearly has no experience in teaching languages and confuses a person's ability to understand a language with their ability to speak a language. Anybody who has taught a language will know that these two skills do not necessarily progress together. The younger generations who spend hours watching KZbin videos and TV series understand extremely well but can find it impossible to string a sentence together. I find it very sad that his arguments are always so one-sided. He's also clearly bitter about how he's been treated by academics in his own field.

[@MagnaAnima]

All language learners must watch not just for trump jokes lol 😂

[@giancolabird]

Trump jokes did not age well. Lets go brandon FJB

[@michaeledwards1664]

@giancolabird Grow up.

[@MagnaAnima]

@@michaeledwards1664 why don’t you go storm the capital again.

[@michaeledwards1664]

@@MagnaAnima I was responding to the troll above.

[@nictegki]

@42:00

[@vasiliydmitriev3723]

A good grammar book is full of texts, examples and other language inputs. So why is it impossible to acquire a language just studying a good big grammar book? It's much more interesting than primitive adapted texts for beginners. And, by the way, I read about a person that learned a language by studying an instruction manual for an aeroplane.

[@Barsik-M]

It seems you are a very gifted person if you consider grammar books attractive :)

[@megalingual3215]

Because it's not full immersion. As Stephen says, you should be learning / watching / reading from something where you forget about the language and you're just fully interested in the content! Some people may truly love grammar but it's very rare. Even linguists like steve kaufmann don't recommend learning from grammar books but rather studying history texts etc. And if you're really interested in operating that airplane manual, then you could learn a language from that!

[@illiiilli24601]

@@megalingual3215 > And if you're really interested in operating that airplane manual, then you could learn a language from that! but on that note, if you're *really* interested in grammar, no reason why you can't pick up language by reading grammar books written in the target language. Right? Offtopic, but I remember reading the manuals for the 2005 Mazda 2 and some 90s Hyundai Lantra as part of my own FVR

[@LionKimbro]

What I believe he is saying is that the monitoring process encouraged by “learning” a language, interferes with the process of acquiring a language. Now, if the grammar book just happens to be material- it could have been anything, it just happened to be a grammar book- and that holds your interest, great! But the acquisition isn’t coming from the fact that it happens to be about grammar. The acquisition is coming from the process of comprehensible input- assuming it is comprehensible to you..!

[@henrychinaski5306]

Is Stephen Krashen Jewish?

[@ronlugbill1400]

Yes. He refers to his background in another talk.

[@taaat9589]

he predicted the trump being impeached lol

[@giancolabird]

Because they intended to impeach him before he even took office. It was a done deal, no matter he did nothing wrong. How are you doing with your new fave Biden? Ready to give 450 thousand dollars to people here illegally? Like those gas prices? Ready to go to war over Taiwan? Ready for the IRS to look into your bank account on a regular basis? Enjoying those senseless mandates and loss of your constitutional rights?

[@taaat9589]

@@giancolabird I live in the UK I don't really care about Biden or Trump. vent somewhere else

[@giancolabird]

@@taaat9589 then why did you bring it up?

[@giancolabird]

@@taaat9589 then why did you bring it up?

[@taaat9589]

@@giancolabird You're acting like a made some political statement, I just thought he predicted it by chance. Just because I don't care about them doesn't mean I cant comment on anything related them.

[@robertknull456]

Interesting but get over this Trump fascination

[@allafleche]

I agree, it's completely out of place, makes him look like an ass, especially now with the democrats pushing war and catastrophic economic and social situation.

[@TheHaining]

Talks all based on personal and professional anecdotes - there is hardly any hard evidence here. May be entertaining but when he dismisses grammar outright he is clearly trying to get his own back on somebody he believes he was wronged by decades ago. There is no other explanation for the hate he harbours for grammar. What need is there to refer to the grammar/non-grammar involvement in teaching debate as a '40-years' war'? Comprehensible input and skill building clearly go hand in hand. What is wrong with this man?

[@ithinkthistimeitsgoingtowork]

I can’t think of a single guest lecture at a college I’ve attended that isn’t almost entirely anecdotes. If you want the hard evidence, read the research.

[@jonallen7619]

You don't know shit about language learning

[@ledaswan5990]

Well people don’t learn languages by learning grammar. I guess he’s just trying to get people to understand that we were given grammar in school but nobody ever actually learned to speak a language that way yet schools keep doing it. It can be interesting but pointless if your goal is to learn to speak.

[@jamesmccloud7535]

@@ledaswan5990 Don't know anybody who spoke fluently after learning the grammar in school, not one. Almost everybody hated it.

[@thornog3464]

This video didn't age well politically... He dislikes Trump, which probably means he voted for Biden. Biden has dementia! I have a tip, Stephen.. stick to what you're good at. Language, not politics 😂 🤡

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[@user-fl7jz5sr9f]

At 21:06 he says, "no one was more disappointed than me," and then goes on to say "I have a Ph.D. in grammar." Hello!