Stephen's New 8x10: The Intrepid

[@seanmac5507]

3kg is a real selling point. The camera you have with you is always better than the camera you left at home!

[@stephenryde78]

Good times Andy That was a lot of fun!!! I am having a lot of fun with the great big negatives too

[@ruudmaas2480]

Nice to see the 8x10 in action. I use the 4x5 black version. I do not have the issue with the groundglass is coming loose when placing or taking out the 4x5 filmholder. I think It is simply fixed with some more locks. On the 4x5 the dimensions do not give any problems. It takes some more time to setup. Zeroing out I mean. The rest enough movements. I do not shoot realy long focal length. The interesting thing is coming frome Intrepid for Large format photography. They are making a new shutter for lenses that need a copal 0 and 1 shutter. It wil be electronicaly triggered. They are also maken a new 150mm large format lens. So some interesting things for the near future. I read they release that in 2024.

[@analogueandy8x10]

Wow really?? They're making a 150?? That's great news!

[@neilhowe2665]

Just recently bought mine used off eBay for £200,with a cracked focus screen and broken film holder clips,will be ok for now, intrepid great for parts- cheap too as 3d printed parts,only downside is a lack of alloy parts,but plastic saves weight-a balancing act...

[@mnickdell8104]

Thanks Andy your videos are great as always... Not a fan of intrepid at all especially their 8x10 they are very loose and un-professional to me... but Steve is such a lovely cool guy you should probably invite him to your future videos

[@analogueandy8x10]

I'll let Stephen know!

[@braxus351W]

There was a time I was looking at Intrepid for an 8x10 camera, but decided against it. Heard too many complaints about the build quality of their cameras and issues with them. That was their Mark 2 camera.

[@analogueandy8x10]

The Mark III build quality is fine and it looks like they've addressed many of the past issues. But...they really need to add latches on the bottom, not just the top, so that the back is held tightly. The back separating from the camera is a big red flag for me. My only other issue is it's inability to handle extreme wide angle without the base intruding in the shot, and the absence of rear slide/swing. I think it's a great entry level camera. It's so quick to set up/break down, and super light.

[@braxus351W]

@analogueandy8x10 I'd be curious how well it would work with wide angle lenses. 8x10 would be great for landscapes on location, so it could be a deal breaker for me. That said I don't think I'll get back into 8x10 again, at least not for a long time.

[@analogueandy8x10]

@@braxus351W as indicated in my reply above, it wouldn't fare well with WA lenses. I also listed specs at the end of the video. Minimum bellows extension is 100mm. That's good. But...since there is no way to slide the back towards the front (like on my Canham and that was a huge selling point for me), even with a Schneider XL 110 or Nikkor SW 120 attached, the base would intrude. You MIGHT be able to tilt the whole camera down, then tilt both the front and rear stands back. I used to do that with my Linhof Tech IV and V cameras. Didn't always work, though. Next time Stephen's out with his camera, I'll check it out... with Stephen's blessing, of course!

[@rupunzel6299]

Why not use rise instead of point the camera up? Even in this video, this camera is visibly flimsy with poor control/precision/accuracy of any camera movements. Majority new to view camera are not demanding on camera movements or all related to the needs of applying camera movements. Add to this, outdoor landscape images typically is not camera movement intensive.. or why cameras like this can be sold easily to a less demanding audience. The audience that is new to view camera likely has a history and habits rooted in digital or roll film cameras with no camera body based movements negating camera movement capabilities as a serious consideration. What they are most concerned with is lowest weight and low cost followed by the prospects of doing the sheet film view camera process of image making.. this is ok enough.. except this is extremely limiting in many ways.. Historically, view camera users were formally educated and taught how to use a view camera in a structured setting. There are plenty that will object to this or view this as elitist.. in reality, the learning curve for how to view camera is Really Steep.. with plenty of dips and peaks.. Trying to navigate this based on KZbin or web info is simply not enough to acquire true mastery of how to view camera... Which brings up the question, doing view camera for the process/experience (hiking, back packing outdoors or similar which is why lowest weight is such a marketing feature) or as a means/tool creative/expressive images? Both are valid, just the end results and goals are not the same..

[@analogueandy8x10]

He was field testing the film for effective EI, rather than going for any image corrections with camera movements.