This is the proper way to make a product comparison video. I have used pumps and the Steripen. I no longer do week-long backpack trips and I only trusted MSR pump filters. I am 65 and want to overnight in the Rockies around clean, running water. I think the Steripen will be a better choice than the Sawyer since I already own the Steripen and there are no virtues of the Sawyer to compel me to change systems. Thanks for the very informative video.
@ShastaBubba Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the kind words. Glad it was useful!
@mtndncer2 ай бұрын
Been using the Steri Pen for 12 yrs, 4x in the Himalaya & at Havasu Falls, Yosemite, & Mexico & I've never gotten sick! Highly recommend this device! I'm using the Ultra & heading to the Himalaya this Tuesday.
@ShastaBubba2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the input and safe travels!
@peakbagger7682 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your long-time experience. I only use my SteriPEN Adventurer on trips where I am at a hotel or restaurant. It can't filter dirty water. I will take it to Kenya, Africa next week 2/1/23 for the resort I will stay at. The Sawyer Squeeze would be my choice for backcountry hiking & backpacking. I hope to hike the Appalachian Trail in April 2023 with the Sawyer. I wouldn't trust electronics on the 2, 194-mile-long AT. My instructor, Dr (Ph.D.) Warren Doyle from my 10/22 Appalachian Trail Institute class, who has hiked the AT 19 times, never filters water and has never got sick. He recommends a Sierra Cup.
@ShastaBubba Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your perspective. Clearly, no method of purification is fool-proof or 100% robust. Electronics can fail and filters can clog or freeze. Amazing that your Instructor has been so lucky not filtering is such a well-traveled area. I was able to cross the Bob Marshall wilderness once without filtering (did use a few chemical treatment pills on stagnant water), but that's a pristine wilderness, so much less likely to get sick there.
@GodfreyMann2 жыл бұрын
00:56 re: water contaminated with heavy metals and chemicals Grayl can filter them and remove viruses. I think steripen & Grayl would be a good combo, because in the event particulates clog the Grayl filter (which happens) one could switch to using it solely to hold dirty water and decontaminate with steripen. The issue is if particulates clogged the Grayl in the first place then pre-filtering with eg a back-washable Sawyer would make sense. Sounds like a lot to carry, but water security is more important than food.
@ShastaBubba2 жыл бұрын
Interesting method; thanks for sharing it! I agree with the importance of water security.
@offtraildog7012 жыл бұрын
got my Steripen in 2002. loved it w/ my nalgenes but switched to platypus bladders and had to switch treatment since I did not want to carry a nalgene just for treating water. I have used so many filters over the years and all have some issue. Had the Befree and works great unless there is any glacier silt. backwashing does little to help. tried backflushing/cleaning at home with no improvement so tossed it after a short summer of use. talk about having to sqeeze hard to get some water ! Now I am trying the Platypus Quikdraw and still have my orginal Steripen. BTW - SteriPen suggests replacing the UV light after 5,000 treatments. At the 4,900th treatment, the LED will be Green, slow flash then steady on. I always carry Micropur as a backup
@ShastaBubba2 жыл бұрын
Good info -- thanks for sharing this. Hope the Quikdraw lasts long and serves you well!
@jgo87174 ай бұрын
Thank you for your advice. My family use steripen classic with eneloop rechargeable batteries in all our travels on hotel tap water minimizing our purchase of bottled water.
@ShastaBubba4 ай бұрын
Great point! Thanks for sharing that use of the Steripen.
@dmourati2 жыл бұрын
Brand new to filtration/purification so this is timely. I went with the Sawyer Squeeze + CNOC and then based on comments just got the coupler. I also picked up something called a millbank bag meant as a heavier duty prefilter option. The water I am working with in CA is from natural springs in basins with lots of algae.
@ShastaBubba2 жыл бұрын
Definitely a more tricky area of the country for water purity than where I hike! Good luck!
@uaziz72 ай бұрын
Excellent knowledgeable review. Thank you!
@ShastaBubba2 ай бұрын
Very welcome!
@norhiker47922 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the informative video. In Norway I have never considered water treatment as it normally is crystal clear. Also I hike mostly in the mountains where the water sources are light exposed continously and contamination from other hikers is not an issue. I think if I were to get a filter the Katadyne BeFree seems a good solution in terms of filter effectiveness vs. practicality. Hope you get to go on some hikes soon Dan 👍 All the best from 🇳🇴
@ShastaBubba2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! First trip planned for the end of this month and I can't wait to get out and try some new gear!!
@andyr4611 Жыл бұрын
I have done a lot of backpacking in Norway and rarely treated water with no problems. But this summer I will be walking from Southern Norway through Hardangervidda , an area where I think there are a lot of sheep so should I be more concerned about mountain water in the south? Thanks.
@butchie27522 жыл бұрын
Very informative. I have had the old steripen sitting unused for emergencies for many years and now I know a lot more about it. Thanks I subbed.
@ShastaBubba2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Really appreciate it!
@MrHamish549 ай бұрын
I attempted to use a Steripen Adventurer hiking the John Muir Trail in 2018. I had inconsistent results of the pen coming on and indicating completion of the sterilization cycle. I had new batteries at the start and even replaced the batteries after resupplying at Muir Ranch. I learned after the hike the problem may have been the lack of electrolytes in the water. People suggested putting salt in the water for the unit to complete sterilization. I used Aqua Mira liquid for the purification. I'll used this pen on subsequent hikes with no problem.
@ShastaBubba9 ай бұрын
This is really interesting; thanks so much for sharing this detail. I hadn't heard of that, but it's a great answer for the very rare glitches I've had.
@VideoFiend1 Жыл бұрын
Steri pen user from the start. Water tastes good, quick and kills everything. No illness issues so far. Prefilter with cloth. Still worry about heavy metals.
@ShastaBubba Жыл бұрын
Great! Glad it's working for you. Thanks for commenting!
@MTwoodsrunner2 жыл бұрын
usually carry a Sawyer Mini and often use it during summer months...I have used it during several week long trips without total failure...though it does tend to slow down and requires more frequent back washes. As you mention, freezing the unit will create a total failure of the mini as well as other similar filters. It's been perhaps 12 years since i last used a Steripen...my old compadre and hiking companion and Triple Crown earner 'Big Sky' usually had his along and we used that for years without any issues. I know 'Big Sky' switched to the Katadyn BeFree system...not sure what he's using these days...thanks Dan another well done video...atb...MTwoods
@ShastaBubba2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Woods! Funny how our gear shifts over time. Usually deliberately for good reason, but sometimes looking back, I can't even recall why a shift was made.
@chriseidam73192 жыл бұрын
Boy, we rarely see this POV on H2O treatment. I use both a Squeeze or Mini (keep it clean and it'll work fine) and a Steripen, the big, aqua blue one from about 8-to-10 years ago. I use the Squeeze to filter-out bacteria, parasites and solid pollutants, including toxic leaf litter. I use the Steripen as a redundancy should my Squeeze fail (clogged, frozen to death), plus to neutralize viruses. I have never run the battery down to low using it. I also carry a few coffee filters. They weigh virtually nothing and they are good in a pinch. They back up as T.P., too. Sure, I have increased my weight a little, but safety never takes a holiday. A family friend lost her colon to E-coli at 19 while volunteering for the Peace Corps in India. It happened in the early '70s. I bet she wishes she could have had a Squeeze AND a Steripen back then.
@ShastaBubba2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! Coffee filters are a great idea. Sorry about the family friend; sucks when someone pays a lifetime price for the act of doing some good.
@xymzk2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's not worth messing around with. I've had daily major health issues for 12 years thanks to food poisoning. I'm permanently disabled and it has affected me in many ways.
@chriseidam73192 жыл бұрын
@@xymzk That is awful. I suffered some hearing damage when I took Kaopectaye per the advice of a nurse-friend of my mom's when I was suffering one of the worst food poisonings of my life. Sure enough, the hearing damage warning is right on the bottle. And it didn't make me feel even a bit better.
@MicaelKling Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing good and useful information, keep on the good job!!!
@ShastaBubba Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the encouragement! Thanks!
@kennethcampingdiary1976 Жыл бұрын
Have been using lifesaver cube and Jerry can as my main camping water filter, only until recent year i added a nemo 10 liters pressure water bag and Sawyer squeeze as prefilter before i use my lifesaver cube and a DIY UV lighte treatment a bit over kill LOL but at the end of the day i still perfer using water filter to physically removing any possible virus or bacteria as final treatmen i will use a UV light
@ShastaBubba Жыл бұрын
Wow, that's quite a setup. Guess you can't be too safe, right? Thanks!
@hoser77062 жыл бұрын
Very thorough and honest review. Thanks. Katadyn Befree is great too with tablets as backup. But I am looking at getting a Steripen for travel. Hard to beat the price of the Classic 3. Ultras are getting poor reviews.
@ShastaBubba2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I just bought an Ultra, so I'll have to let you know how that turns out after a season or two!
@hoser77062 жыл бұрын
@@ShastaBubba i just bought the Classic 3 yesterday. Lol. The size of the Ultra is tempting.
@ShastaBubba2 жыл бұрын
@@hoser7706 Apparently we share the gear-buying disease!
@hoser77062 жыл бұрын
@@ShastaBubba oh for sure. And it is a big club. I’d be embarassed to share how many tents, pads, and bikes I have. But it all lasts forever through trend after trend. 😁
@ShastaBubba2 жыл бұрын
@@hoser7706 ...and gear swap. 😎
@snapdragon24415 ай бұрын
This is very helpful, thank you.
@ShastaBubba5 ай бұрын
You're very welcome!
@kennethcampingdiary1976 Жыл бұрын
I use both life saver cube water filter and UV filter for my camping i use saywer as per filter 😊
@ShastaBubba Жыл бұрын
Cool, thanks!
@AlaskanGeezer Жыл бұрын
I prefer the steri pen as well! I am not adding anything like Iodine or Chlorine unless I have to. It takes less time than boiling. I have had Giardia, and I do not want any animal related viruses. I also use A katadyn Filter or a Lifestraw filter. Mine is the classic, and in Winter I double treat it because low temps (I live in Alaska and I will backpack down to -20 F or sometimes less. I carry a Nut Milk Bag (Amazon) and its better and lasts longer than cheese cloth. I live in Alaska and an awful lot of animals poop in the water, tons of beavers, bears, moose, wolves, ducks, geese, and fish. DNA is everything.....(I do have Aqua tabs or I boil as a backup).
@ShastaBubba Жыл бұрын
Glad I'm not the only one! Thanks for the tip on Nut Milk Bags -- been looking for a good prefilter. I carry Aqua Tabs as a backup too; very light as a secondary option.
@CordCrenshaw2 жыл бұрын
I use the Katadyn BeFree and have been happy with it but you make a good case for the steripen. Thanks for sharing your insights.
@ShastaBubba2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and sharing your input!
@GodfreyMann2 жыл бұрын
Katadyn products don’t filter viruses, so combining with UV light makes sense if not only as a backup.
@vikramreddy81342 ай бұрын
I just wanted to point out that the LEDs do tell you when the batteries are low. A red flash after the green cycle complete light is the indicator.
@ShastaBubba2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this point! I could never keep in my head what all the different combinations of flashing lights meant. 😢🤣
@tonyrowland9216 Жыл бұрын
There is an outfitter in Minn that provides these with his packages.
@ShastaBubba Жыл бұрын
Very cool, thanks!
@newlifeeveryday18212 жыл бұрын
Very helpful Dan. Thanks.
@ShastaBubba2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@blunted1mike2 жыл бұрын
Sawyer Squeeze regular size for sure! Pro tip, buy the additional Sawyer coupler that fits your standard smart water bottle. Then use a cnoc bag to hang and let gravity do your filtering for you. I tried the Katadyn BeFree, which was wonderful for the first week of using it, then it degrades significantly over time, while the Sawyer squeeze holds up just fine. Back flush with said coupler and keep on moving.
@ShastaBubba2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike! Solid advice from a veteran of the AT!
@oldunion2 жыл бұрын
Lol I just came in to give this exact endorsement. it's great system and I like that I can fill my 3L vecto if I have to carry water into camp.
@sB-wt5ov2 жыл бұрын
Darn it! I recently bought the sawyer mini, not even the squeeze model
@ShastaBubba2 жыл бұрын
@@sB-wt5ov Ouch. Maybe it will be okay if you don't push it too hard. I mean, they're still making them, so they must work for some folks, right?
@sB-wt5ov2 жыл бұрын
@@ShastaBubba I hope so, but I know what my next investment will be thanks to you! I think it will be enough for this season at least
@janvanstraten55162 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and informative. Thanks Dan.
@ShastaBubba2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@georgiosladas3106 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video! If sterilize a bottle of water from rain or a river and store it a week is it getting smelly?? Or you can drink it even after a week? Cause every time I stored water from natural saurce, after a few days becomes smelly and not drinkable. Could steri keep it normal rain water for a few days???
@ShastaBubba Жыл бұрын
Great question! I have no idea, never having had to do that. Interesting experiment, for sure.
@oldunion2 жыл бұрын
fwiw, sawyer sells a "coupling ring" that you can use in lieu of the syringe for backflushing or gravity feed. My sawyer squeeze+coupling ring+ 3L CNOC Vector Bag is right at 6oz and that likely includes some moisture left in the sawyer. I'd like to try the steri-pen but east coat waters seem too variable for it, I like that the sawyer also stops sediment too as evident from backflushing after filtering 2-4L from some sources.
@ShastaBubba2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for mentioning that; I wondered whether streams in the East tend to be more tea-colored (beyond spring runoff) and perhaps the UV light would be less effective. Also, lots harder to know what it upstream.
@xymzk2 жыл бұрын
This was helpful, thanks!
@ShastaBubba2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@cincopasos81222 жыл бұрын
In the Peruvian andes there are surprisingly many people and cattle, neither of which have any consideration for keeping water sources clean. So I filter first and then disinfect with chemicals.
@ShastaBubba2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your perspective; good to get more international feedback here since conditions vary widely.
@user-hg6jw9lp4t2 жыл бұрын
Great SteriPen review👍Thank you for posting
@DrJohn4932 жыл бұрын
Really like the steripen concept but concerned about the failure rate. I'm still stuck on chemical treatment (Micropur tabs) with Sawyer micro filtering as a backup. Or vice versa...chem treatment has served me well over the years. I usually carry 1 treated liter of H2O and have a second liter being treated. Or 1 treated liter and then filter at my evening campsite if H2O will be nearby. But I always carry MP chem tabs in my 1st aid kit. To be honest, the way I consume H2O on the trail, the MP chem tabs are very effective for me. And darn, if you're a weekend warrior I hate to think what I am 😉
@ShastaBubba2 жыл бұрын
Thanks John. Chem treatment is probably the best/most reliable if you don't mind the taste!
@DrJohn4932 жыл бұрын
@@ShastaBubba I've never detected a chem taste with the MicroPur tabs but then my wife tells me I've killed my tastebuds with the copious quantities of Tabasco sauce I put on/in stuff 😋😉
@ShastaBubba2 жыл бұрын
@@DrJohn493 Ouch!
@isawalter346510 ай бұрын
interesting, thank you
@ShastaBubba10 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@ianhall7022 жыл бұрын
Sawyer squeeze for me!!!
@ShastaBubba2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@churra82572 жыл бұрын
you convinced me
@ShastaBubba2 жыл бұрын
Wishing you many liters of safe drinking!
@SurpriseFox2 жыл бұрын
The water does not block UV, it scatters it. Otherwise the sterilization would not effect the organisms.
@ShastaBubba2 жыл бұрын
The water blocks the UV light from harming human eyes (probably because it scatters it, as you point out).
@DennisMathias2 жыл бұрын
107 degrees would not do it. I've gotten 'fresh' batteries before and there have been duds. Either way, throwing a squeeze in there wouldn't hurt.