Steve Coogan & Louise Mensch Clash Over Press Regulation On Newsnight [30.10.2011]

Steve Coogan & Louise Mensch Clash Over Press Regulation On Newsnight [30.10.2011]
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Paul Dacre, the Daily Mail's editor in chief, on Wednesday launched a staunch defence of the Press Complaints Commission (PCC) as he addressed the latest seminar of the Leveson Inquiry, which was set up in the wake of the phone-hacking scandal.
In it Mr Dacre said that over-regulating the press would "put democracy itself in peril".
Comedian Steve Coogan and Louise Mensch MP, a member of the culture select committee, joined Jeremy Paxman to discuss whether he was right, whether press self-regulation works and whether the tabloids are a necessary evil.
Thanks to the BBC
Sunday 30th October 2011

[@TheDustyPanther]

"Notable by it's singularity" what a lovely turn of phrase.

[@Rodiraskal]

Very simple, very moving

[@danielnewton5867]

Very inaccurate.

[@cardigan3000]

@@danielnewton5867 go on - your dying to tell us how great the Mail is

[@judyhopps9380]

@@cardigan3000 I won't, but I disagree with Steve on standing up for the Guardian. They're equal scum.

[@lukeycc67]

I've accidentally dismantled my Corby trouser press.

[@johnnyboy18778]

will it show up on the bill ok bye

[@Etcher]

Coogan is a good guy. He's a celeb, he's Partridge, he's well known and he's wealthy. But he is a good guy who speaks his mind and thankfully that tends to be sensical and fair.

[@samx3517]

He's been a vocal supporter of Labour for years

[@MegaHariboboy]

You honestly think someone who speaks their mind is Tory? All they ever do is speak for money and their own personal gain...

[@jonskinner5664]

@@MegaHariboboy One of the reasons all this started was because they were reporting on him in brothels, strip clubs etc, he only wants this so he can carry on with his degeneracy.

[@garethgill1]

Totally agree. What’s right is right and Coogan seems to have his head screwed on.

[@AntSimpson]

@@jonskinner5664 why should people not have a right to privacy just because they are in the public eye? Princess Diana was hounded by paps and shitty press for years. The journos did not care for her mental health or that of her children and look what happened..

[@Studeb]

Steve Coogan is a very intelligent man with great integrity, I like him even more after this appearance.

[@06comment]

Needless to say, he had the last laugh

[@legion22bh50]

Lovely stuff

[@06comment]

She's a dwad and a doser, a didhead and dalentless shid

[@JuanJohn-Raytheon]

He was at the height of his Blue Peter fame.

[@bonkeydollocks1879]

Are they just deaf or deaf offenders?

[@liamgoodenough8947]

Needles to say, she took hard drugs

[@BenGarman]

"If the tabloid press can only exist by reporting garbage, then that's not a good enough reason for them to exist!" - absolutely spot on.

[@MrBarker73]

Good lad Steve. Every now and again, we get a celeb who's got backbone. Keep it up.

[@fredbloggs8172]

COOGAN IS BANG ON HERE & EXPRESSED HIS VIEWS CONCISELY KUDOS TO STEVE

[@rabbitss11]

it's come to something when we rely on comedians to express views we can engage with, Steve Coogan, Ricky Jervais and even Russell Brand have more to say about the modern condition than our politicians

[@MattJames1958]

Coogan is spot on, all Mensch is doing is having a go at the Guardian and the Independent

[@outsiders4951]

Coogan always looks like he is about to burst out laughing, even when discussing serious topics lol.

[@stevenbones9906]

how much did Murdoch pay mensch for her verdict on the committee.

[@alexbowman7582]

The red tops supporting the Tories.

[@monkeytennis8861]

She's a Tory

[@Dilkingt0nne]

@@alexbowman7582 mirror never did tbf

[@JonnyArtistic]

i totally agree with Steve!!

[@Gostraughan]

Shouldn't we maybe work on education so that "Who's shagging who" wouldn't be what sells newspapers? Tabloids should be banned...

[@rudymatheson1415]

You probably won’t see this - but great idea.

[@sb_dunk]

@@rudymatheson1415 I saw it and that's all that matters

[@isaac.g7421]

Can paxman stop being a broken record for once? How many times did he have to accuse Coogan of not wanting a free press when he repeatedly said thats not what he wanted he just wanted proper regulation in terms of illegal or intrusive activity

[@MikeHendryDev]

This was a very well reasoned debate on both sides. I have to say I do agree with Steve Coogan on this one.

[@senor250]

I'm not reading the Metro, I'm not reading the Metro

[@rodden1953]

Its been rebadged you fool

[@user-fv7jb1bd3s]

Hahahaha amazing

[@caganozturk1]

That is first class

[@user-ej5mr9th1i]

Nicely done

[@davidb9059]

Very good Mr Paxman for letting the debate go it coarse.

[@Ch4osW4rrior]

I'm with Coogan.

[@brabbit3389]

He’s so right , if they need to print bullshit to sell to exist then they shouldn’t exist

[@OkOk-sh4oq]

Facist

[@nickmackay61]

Good on you Steve. Funny and principled; a rare combination.

[@Fcblover]

is it ???

[@Dilkingt0nne]

Equidistant between chit chat and analysis

[@guinnessharvey4476]

“I’m not driving a mini metro!”

[@epiphany55]

We don't need newspapers any more.

[@SuperAllanjames]

Dloes Louise Mensch really thing people are more likely to buy the Guardian if there's a story about her in it?

[@tedbullock1479]

Almost felt like Partridge was in the room when he said ''who's shagging who''

[@VeggieGamer]

I just can't stop thinking Partridge :(

[@bulletproofblouse]

Should have brought Sidekick Simon on, get a few zingers in on Louise Mensch.

[@Judewilkinsonjfk]

Paxman sometimes goes a bit hard on the goodies.

[@omnivorousbiped2447]

Holy hell, whatever Paxman gets paid is too much.

[@jamesknox64]

Bill oddie never leaves a message and doesn't have voicemail. he's never had to worry about hacking.

[@beanoalbum1966]

Well said Mr Coogan.

[@22grena]

Right on Steve. Keep the faith.

[@StraitKnopfler]

Ian Hislop eloquently and succinctly outlines the dangers of press regulation in the first video result if you search for him on here. Coogan's defence of the McCanns and Dowlers is moot because phone hacking IS already illegal. Policing the actions of the press is what's important, not what they publish. Harsher sentences for breaking the law are required; what the press publishes will inherently be acceptable if their actions are moral and legal, so target the latter not the former.

[@looseheadtom]

"why is the guardian writing about my facelift?" cat's out of the bag.

[@steve30toon]

Stop getting Bond wrong!!

[@obvius223]

I completely missed that. Thanks for pointing it out. Brilliant.

[@pigknickers]

When she says "my facelift" and so admits it.

[@jackhg]

Ha I heard that

[@Mart-Bro]

pigknickers It doesnt matter.

[@MrNcnc1]

So what? Is it of anyone else's concern?

[@philiphughes4021]

Self-regulation of any sector of society will always be suspect.

[@RoflocalypseNow]

You need to research "free man on the land" and also the consent of the governed. Also research Legalese and the duality of words used in law. When you're asked if you "understand", you're actually being asked to give consent, not if you can comprehend that which is put to you. Understand = stand under. Thus giving them rights over you ie. the consent of the governed. The only Law is Common Law. Don't take my word for it though, research it for yourself.

[@stevebailey5591]

Every industry and walk of life is subject to some form of regulation and accountability. I don't understand why anyone argues that the press should be exempt from this universal rule. I think it's ridiculous that the likes of Brookes and Dacre can claim, with a straight face, that they're somehow the defenders of my freedom - when they'd think nothing about ignoring my rights and ruining my life if it served their interests to do so.

[@GavinHitchens]

I usually think Paxman is great but Steve Coogan was making some great points that he ignored and came across uncommonly biased into the realm of invasive snooping and the woeful publishing of utter rubbish.

[@Dilkingt0nne]

Oooooo it’s a bad paper

[@77jamess]

First award is for best CHRIST! Sorry, not Christ..

[@t7612-v6h]

"did he bring the aerial down with him?"

[@lennymice2261]

Exactly the level of debating skills that I expected from someone that thinks that you can't criticise the financial crisis if you buy a cup of coffee.

[@watzizname]

Nice one Mr Coogan :)

[@sourcescience]

That would be Louise Mensch, who cares so much about politics that she bottled it and quit.

[@sourcescience]

Thomas King She does now. She moved there after the going got tough.

[@TrippleH655321]

Crash. Bang. Wallop. What a debate.

[@generationx1906]

Why do people read tabloids?

[@perilouspalms2497]

Big tits

[@JP-nb7tm]

The expression “gutter press” didn’t come about by accident. It perfectly describes the NOTW etc.

[@ZuluRomeo]

Louise Mensch feeds beefburgers to swans.

[@geekymarianne]

Behold, two people debating a matter from two different, genuinely held viewpoints, without being nasty to each other or implying that the other is in league with the devil.

[@steveroberts9453]

Needless to say , Coogan had the last laugh.

[@NickForest999]

…and on that bombshell

[@onesong2001]

It has been scientificly proven that a person can read a shit-sheet without paying for it. Even a 5 year old knows that.

[@Falco45able]

Steve coogan declared it wasn’t about money he would give any compensation he was awarded due to the phone hacking to a charity, did he?

[@JOELY79]

2011 now 2020 and it continues RIP caroline flack

[@obsoleteworlds]

WHO INVENTED THE SKIP?

[@franjoz.tomicic8886]

Yes! It's an extender.

[@illeatthat]

It's a NEWSPAPER, not a gossip column.

[@Mauhadeeb28]

The main difference is this: with free market hacking, other orgs can investigate and expose those doing the hacking. In a government hacking situation, there is no one to expose because the government won't expose itself.

[@jayrox40]

This is great banter. It really is.

[@Redpilldown]

Well done Mr Coogan, get rid of the crap out of the papers then we will all be able to call then NEWSpapers again.

[@JermainePlaces]

Immediately I thought of Alan Partridge vs the Farmer. "You feed beefburgers to swans"

[@ShoeLube]

I like drinking coffee in my tent

[@Carlos_500]

Why is Alan Partridge talking funny

[@SnoopyChicken]

"Back of the net!"

[@bezerkoid]

Steve Coogan= in the right

[@chrischapman7405]

Coogan knocks it out of the park once again!

[@postglasto]

Well in Stevie.

[@Dream0Asylum]

If the truth is not also sensational then it will be ignored to the incredible detriment of enlightened self-interest.

[@Stuber9077]

Which part of the free press stands up for our freedom? They are, however, free to organise against personal freedom... That's what they should be regulated against.

[@forthrightgambitia1032]

Louise Mensch has now gone full tin-foil hat too.

[@igiorni1]

Coogan the smartest gut in the room...

[@GradualCringe]

1. If that were true there would be no new businesses (clearly not the case) 2. Newspaper circulation is falling year on year (competition from a myriad of different sources such as bloggers and online publications on the internet) 3. People are not forced to buy newspapers (see point 2), competition from other information sources significantly dilutes any such "power" 4. You have not choice but to pay tax. Nor have I ever had a choice on vetoing new taxes with which I do not agree.

[@T800System]

Coogan is spot on about the mail. It's toilet paper.

[@youandwhosearmy6339]

OK she's Tory and talks crap, but she's way sexier than Courtney Love.

[@Harvester236]

youandwhosearmy? Her vile personality ruins it though.

[@youandwhosearmy6339]

***** yeah, you are right.

[@Sou1defiler]

Think her personality is bad? Should see her "poetry"

[@OkOk-sh4oq]

It’s not a free press if it’s only the things you like

[@starfishli76]

Newspapers should report on topics that are of interest for the public!!! Why don't they report of the ongoing corruption within governments? Why do readers have to be swamped with silly, trivial stories about private affairs of some celebrities instead? This is dumbing down mass manipulation, and I don't buy into it!

[@buttonsg1]

Coogan looks like he just climbed out from his cardboard box on the embankment

[@riantowl]

Why anyone wouldn't is so baffling.

[@frogstamper]

A truly superb critique of the awful Daily Heil, well said Steve.....why on earth do people buy this shit-sheet?

[@JonMerriott]

Wrote to my MP about hare hunting and he wrote me a personalised letter, but then he wasn't busy doing glamour shoots, getting plastic surgery or complaining that women MPs are looked at for their image. I pity you having her as your MP, hope you kick her out soon.

[@Randomcorpse]

Funny they didn't hack any phones to find out who murdered Sean Hoare who mysteriously died on his front door step after blowing the whistle on the whole phone hacking scandal.

[@Randomcorpse]

@Jason Smith Look it up. There's a thing called the internet. You're already on it. You're half way there. When a man crosses a billionaire, then turns up dead on his own doorstep after turning a funny colour, and the police describe it as "unexplained but not suspicious", something questionable has happened. An unexplained death is, after all, the very definition of suspicious.

[@jabu285]

Check how Coogan eyes her at 2:33. You see the dirty thoughts flowing through his mind. Lol

[@verysurvival]

Which one is Steve Coogan?

[@busydad4858]

As MP some of her points were good and some were not, but the excellence of those cheekbones remained consistent. Still find them impressive today.

[@theeverchosen1504]

If a business is no longer viable it should be allowed to fail

[@MrGraphis]

Thank god Ubermensch left politics: one scary, self-serving woman!

[@vapourmile]

It was a broadsheet for most of its life.

[@WalterLiddy]

He's failing to distinguish between morality and criminality. He wants to legislate morality.

[@ehought]

Nice one Steve - a win for you.

[@markphc99]

Is There a law giving people a right to a private life? Which law is that?

[@RevStaplehurst]

As much as I find Coogan to be Alan Partridge without the wit, I agree with him on this one

[@mrgarypaterson]

They need to be more accountable to the people... The objectors try to suggest this would stop media reporting injustices in society, not so... it's hard to imagine that in this modern age of the internet.

[@Treblaine]

How about just ENFORCE THE LAW. If I harassed a woman getting right in her face taking pictures and jeering at her I'd be arrested, but if she is a "celebrity" and I am a registered journalist suddenly it is "fair game". No, being well known does not make you "fair game" to abuse and harrasment, that's a dehumanising hunting term.

[@groundbase1]

Well Debated Mr Coogan, Bro T Campbell would have been proud of You!

[@WalterLiddy]

Yeah don't judge what she's saying - judge her.

[@mikeryan6637]

Sorry about that. I'll change. I promise.

[@matetotally]

so, you didnt listen to the debate then, where he said that was the case and explained why?

[@BboyCorrosive]

Papers are dead, the internet has killed you, make your time

[@RPFS2008]

I don't buy papers -not a single one- so I am not responsible and they do not do what they do to satisfy me. Whilst what you list doesn't fit the bill as "corruption of the highest order", it is bad. I can think of much worse corruption within the halls of government. I'd prefer to keep the press and government as far away from each other as possible. It's the sane position to hold.

[@mrjamesbudd]

what did mensch say under her breath at 7:06 ???

[@northernpicturepoetry]

“Back of the net”