Steve Robertson - Color grading HDR

[@Ben-fq1lj]

To me, the bright highlights of hdr can and should be utilized to help create aw and bring you into the cinematic world. Scenes with glass, lasers, reflective water, landscape/wide shots without subjects in them where the purpose is to admire the world; to me this is where hdr should and could shine. Use soft highlight rolloff for faces, and specular highlights for what I mentioned and battle scenes

[@EatinBubsy]

Helpful talk

[@mariokotlar303]

Fantastic presentation Steve, thank you! I personally feel that content made by Jacob + Katie Schwarz such as the mentioned "The World in HDR" is graded near perfectly, with perhaps just a few scenes being a bit too hot, and I wish actual movies and shows looked like that as well, rather than often being very similar to SDR, as you suggested they should, and as official specifications recommend as well. The strongest argument I see for keeping HDR rather dim like that, is the chart about annoying transitions that you showed at 8:40. I wonder though, if "The World in HDR" level of brightness is in the green regarding that chart, or not. There is another question that I have that you have not addressed here when recommending to keep everything below 1000 nits, even the highlights. If everyone were to follow that recommendation, then 25% of the bith depth allocation (from PQ 0.75 to 1) would end up being unused forever, which seems like waste. As far as I'm aware, 10 000 nits as ceiling for PQ was chosen by Dolby because subjects in their experiments rated such highlights more aesthetically pleasing. Suggesting that there is value in not compressing those highlights. And personally I find that I love seeing highlights look the way they do in real life, and when I see HDR productions compress the highlights as you suggested they should, it feels to me like making the picture look worse than it could look. Why settle for making it look just a little bit better than SDR, when it could look a lot better than SDR. It's super interesting to see you talk about Dune, as I watched it in SDR in cinema, and the whole movie felt too dark to me, which could be the consequence of these decisions you praised. But I should really go watch it in HDR to see how that affects it. I loved to see you roast the Iphone HDR videos. My pixel phone has the same problem and I hate it with passion.

[@DasAntiNaziBroetchen]

Maybe his 1000 nits recommendation is based off of HLG.

[@leandrolehart8847]

is a such great infos.. thanks

[@ElectricLoft]

Hilarious. Thank you. 😂