Why I'm changing REFERENCE speakers, from Klipsch to PureAudioProject!

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Steve Guttenberg Audiophiliac

Steve Guttenberg Audiophiliac

Күн бұрын

The KLIPSCH Cornwall IV was my Reference speaker for three years, time for a change. The PureAudioProject Duet15 is my new Reference!
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@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Жыл бұрын
There's an Audiophiliac/Steve Guttenberg imposter scamming my viewers, There’s no FREE gifts. DON’T respond! I don't do giveaways or ask for money (except for my Patreon).
@ML-rm3vk
@ML-rm3vk Жыл бұрын
Thank you Steve fine video brilliant . peace man
@JohnLnyc
@JohnLnyc Жыл бұрын
This appears to be a very prevalent scam. Rick Beato has been plagued by it. He has issued a number of warnings on his YT site.
@barney6888
@barney6888 Жыл бұрын
This and a few other channels. Too bad Ray Donovan is a fictional character.
@billblunden1549
@billblunden1549 Жыл бұрын
Hey Steve, your most informative opinions are absolutely welcomed, and if some viewers are doubtful, there's a probability that they may be new to your output.
@phenomtyree
@phenomtyree Жыл бұрын
Do you have a live wall, or a treated wall behind your open baffle speakers?
@davidadamW
@davidadamW Жыл бұрын
Steve, without question you are one of the most reasonable reviewers. And by reasonable I mean not an absolutist. You’re open, like your new reference speaker. Kudos!
@john_scott
@john_scott Жыл бұрын
Also Steve is not a cult leader reviewer.
@adamfrost9048
@adamfrost9048 Жыл бұрын
I love the clarity with which you describe the depth capability. It gives a great impression of how this speaker sounds without hearing it in person. Thanks conveying the sound in a way that makes sense.
@johndavies6253
@johndavies6253 Жыл бұрын
Steve, I really loved this video, there’s no hiding the excitement you have as you continue your audiophile journey. I’d love to see a video in the future where you give some tips on speaker set up and placement, especially comparing any different approaches you may favour when setting up open baffle vs closed baffle type speakers. C’mon audiophile guru, teach us!!
@weeooh1
@weeooh1 Жыл бұрын
Very insightful approach! Living with different speaker designs can only broaden your familiarity with different speaker types thus giving your reviews greater authority and weight. Its one of the reasons I'm subbed here, is that Steve has been doing this for decades and has listened to any and all speakers worthy of note.
@williamsmith9194
@williamsmith9194 Жыл бұрын
You have become one of my favorite audio advisors. Your excitement about audio excites me. Enjoy
@davidb9682
@davidb9682 Жыл бұрын
It can't be easy to describe the perceived audio differences between speakers and hifi equipment. There are only so many words you can use, like crisp, fast, deep, expansive etc. But I think of all your posts, this one is the very best I've heard you do, where you manage to convey how these panel speakers sound different. Great job.
@callmesceptical9114
@callmesceptical9114 Жыл бұрын
Content, experience, delivery, context, likability. Steve is the best!
@aeshultz55
@aeshultz55 Жыл бұрын
It's great to see the PureAudioProject speakers again. I heard them 3 years ago at an audio show - 9 floors of individual rooms, and the PureAudios where the ones that stood out (well, other than the Maggies). My impressions of them were exactly as you describe - open and powerful. I do want a pair!
@hifihometheater
@hifihometheater Жыл бұрын
I Loooooved the Cornwall 4's when I had them. These must be pretty special to take their place. Its fun to change things up as well. Congrats!
@abxaudiophiles
@abxaudiophiles Жыл бұрын
Great job Steve!! Love the sneak peeks on Patreon 👍😁😁😁. Looking forward to hearing more about your journey.
@marclove1159
@marclove1159 Жыл бұрын
As a guitar player, I understand the difference between closed back and open back amplifiers/speaker cabs. It's the same difference that you describe, and you are absolutely correct.
@blairholmesproductionsinc.9432
@blairholmesproductionsinc.9432 Жыл бұрын
You’re ticking all the boxes you mentioned, Steve! Thanks for the great and interesting variety!
@daveyurkovich9459
@daveyurkovich9459 Жыл бұрын
Very cool! Look forward to hearing more about them as time goes by.
@pauldemara7633
@pauldemara7633 Жыл бұрын
Great topic... Again, thank-you for what you do Steve. IMHO... Change = fun and new knowledge.
@OldTooly
@OldTooly Жыл бұрын
Finally listening "Outside the Box." You'll never go back to boxes without missing open baffle's special characteristics. Nothing else seems to do it quite the same. I am so jealous as my room won't work with open baffles or the Maggies. I'm stuck in the box, but I discovered small boxes are much better for my tastes with a little sub assist. Have a great time with your new setup.
@dingodogrecords
@dingodogrecords Жыл бұрын
Same for me with open back guitar cabinets. Sound is less honky, more open. Natural. And can hear differences easier as you said. Excellent video sir.
@ajay55556
@ajay55556 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. It is always enlightening to watch your videos.
@van94weightlossjourney
@van94weightlossjourney Жыл бұрын
Through my audio journey, I find myself listening at modest volumes around 55-75 db. I used to listen to music loud because it sounded more dynamic and bass response was better at the consequence of fatigue. My speakers were bookshelves and floor standers with woofer drivers that were in the 4-6.5” range. At lower volumes I ran into problems with less dynamics and lower bass response. The solution was larger drivers. The consequence is room real estate but for me it’s worth giving up the space. Now I run only Magnepan’s and Zhu Audio’s with a single 15” sub. Now I can listen at lower volumes while enjoying clarity and bass.
@carlsitler9071
@carlsitler9071 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree about 15" woofers. My current setup is a 15" woofer (Marantz) in a 1x2x3 box and a separate box MTM (Triad LCR from Denmark) with a passive 3-way crossover. I actually thought I had my studio monitor headphones on this morning and reached to take them off.
@evaodland7349
@evaodland7349 Жыл бұрын
Kudos to your quilt maker for capturing the color pallet and theme of your painting on the wall....also "yes" to the open baffle ref speaker...
@Happy-Trails-To-You
@Happy-Trails-To-You Жыл бұрын
The fact that you change your setup is awesome. No one likes to "eat" the same food everyday, no matter how good it tastes. Change is very good. Like music, I love hundreds + of songs/artists. On any given day, I may like to listen to something else. The fact that you change is what makes it special. I certainly respect that. I do not have the opportunity to change my speakers/components often, but I do find myself constantly moving, rotating, adjusting my speakers and system, depending on what I am listening to. Each CD (not vinyl anymore) is recorded differently. Anyone who says they have the perfect systems is , hmmm, not really listening to the music at the individual discrete levels within the music ( the parts that make up the whole). Thank you.
@darrellchitwood9167
@darrellchitwood9167 Жыл бұрын
The blessing and curse of HIFI, so many flavors so little money. Always fascinating.
@jonbuilds
@jonbuilds Жыл бұрын
I love the PAP speaker design and performance (have Trio15) , but they truly shine with the Voxativ drivers. That driver all alone as a full range is amazing (and pricey), with the 15" to reinforce low end just glorious. Nice change!
@BicycleJoeTomasello
@BicycleJoeTomasello Жыл бұрын
I envy you in your constant experimentation with different components I've just restored the same system I've had for 40 + years
@karlcotleanu486
@karlcotleanu486 Жыл бұрын
I am in the same boat as you. I love how Steve says the Klipsch are going back and the Pure Audio Project are in. Just wow!! I wish I could just send expensive speakers back and get a replacement, just like that.
@AllboroLCD
@AllboroLCD Жыл бұрын
I like this quality about you Steve, very important for your chosen profession! Im suprised youve yet to consider having custom speakers made given all youve reviewed over the years.
@trevorbartram5473
@trevorbartram5473 Жыл бұрын
My first home-built speakers in 1972 used Richard-Allen twin cone drivers. I quickly moved to box speakers: AR, home-built, Snells then Paradigm for improved sound. In 1995 I used a Pioneer twin cone driver and small dome tweeter crossed over at 6KHz for HT surround and kitchen ceiling speakers. The dome tweeter really helped. So I'm dubious about whizzer cones, in general, a dome tweeter will perform much better. The reason open baffle speakers require large drivers and large panel area is the partial cancellation of the front wave by the back wave. I agree that not enough attention is paid to the backwave in box speaker design, that is why Kef Meta technology is SO clever, it traps the midrange and high frequency backwave before exiting through the cones!
@TremblyChap
@TremblyChap Жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for reminding me what a great album Motel Shot is! I'm gonna put it on the platter now!
@terrelldodson579
@terrelldodson579 Жыл бұрын
I'm excited for you on this new reference system!
@zzezzobike
@zzezzobike Жыл бұрын
So lucky to have you. You just know how and what to say and make your videos like a movie. Bravo!
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@psyborg06
@psyborg06 Жыл бұрын
He is indeed very adept at getting many to buy into his subjective opinions that hold no bearing when viewed with a modicum of rigor.
@zzezzobike
@zzezzobike Жыл бұрын
@@psyborg06 whatever you say, doesn't matter, we know him from 80' and hi is great person
@psyborg06
@psyborg06 Жыл бұрын
@@zzezzobike Sorry, those are not very compelling reasons for me to trust someone as an expert.
@alexanderfleming9104
@alexanderfleming9104 Жыл бұрын
I am not surprised. I was at the audio show in New York and these were the only speakers that left a lasting impression on me. The sound is very different compared to most other speakers.
@rickmathis8590
@rickmathis8590 Жыл бұрын
15 inch drivers are one reason why I love the Tannoy Ardens, and why they are on the shortlist for my next upgrade. But I may have to find a way to hear these open baffle speakers before I make the leap. Thanks, Steve!
@ryanjofre
@ryanjofre Жыл бұрын
It’s criminal that more speakers don’t have 15” woofers.
@bigelile07
@bigelile07 Жыл бұрын
@@ryanjofre Bigger woofers doesn't mean better sound. If you are set on 15" woofers buy some Cerwin-Vegas
@NavyNate123
@NavyNate123 Жыл бұрын
@@bigelile07 This is such a silly comment that disregards basic physics.
@bigelile07
@bigelile07 Жыл бұрын
@@NavyNate123 Yeah, okay, if you say so. 🤣
@TimpBizkit
@TimpBizkit Жыл бұрын
I like 15s as long as they are not run up too high.
@eliasnohra
@eliasnohra Жыл бұрын
Hi Steve. Wanted to say I really appreciate this being available in podcast form too. I'd love to have more of these videos just in audio format. Curious to see where you go with it!
@richardelliott8352
@richardelliott8352 Жыл бұрын
nice to hear someone speak of the choice of the preferred illusion when listening to music. so often the tendency is to consider it a finite exercise, a good, better, best, deal.
@REX4340
@REX4340 Жыл бұрын
Congrats Steve!
@sevestan
@sevestan Жыл бұрын
Well done explaination Mr. Klipsch!
@gil3green
@gil3green Жыл бұрын
Glad to see you change it up!
@tommethans7827
@tommethans7827 Жыл бұрын
Wow. That's high praise. The Pure Audio Project speakers do sound good.
@brentwalker3300
@brentwalker3300 Жыл бұрын
I discovered PureAudioProject a few years ago while looking into open baffle designs. The company represents a nice balance between DIY and off-the-shelf speakers since they offer many options and choices depending on music taste, aesthetics, and budget. Perhaps one day I will have the opportunity to put together a pair of my own. Cheers!
@steveschermerhorn773
@steveschermerhorn773 Жыл бұрын
100% agree. Also, PAP gives you the option, after purchase, to swap crossover parts the midrange drivers. The Duet15, reviewed here, is the introductory model. There are Trio and Quartet options. And, there are 10" woofer options as well.
@stevewarner8686
@stevewarner8686 Жыл бұрын
I was very intrigued with Ojas Devons speakers that was featured in Ben's System of the Day... fun to explore different perspectives in sound 😀
@ronaldmcdonald2456
@ronaldmcdonald2456 Жыл бұрын
Agree with EVERYTHING you said on this one. I just got the Linkwitz LXmini and both SWMBO and I were immediately taken by how different they sound in comparison to my MTM ribbon boxes. Within a few notes she almost shouted out ''They're so smooth!'' She also said they're not irritating when played very loud. I'm using Uncle Nelson's special electronic crossover he designed for the mini at Siegfried's request. Since I love building amplifiers the Linkwitz stuff is truly up my alley. Unfortunately, don't yet have room for the LX521's. But, one day.
@helgar791
@helgar791 Жыл бұрын
After living with Spatial Audio Labs X4's for two years I could never go back to boxes. Open, transparent, and fast. The textures and tonal colors are clear and palpable. But the incredible imaging and soundstaging is like nothing else.
@hamidrezahabibi8111
@hamidrezahabibi8111 Жыл бұрын
Being an audiophile is a 24 hours 365 days 52 weeks JOB & PASSION. Congratulations 🍾🎊🎈🎉 Steve for your new reference and the new references that will come after. 😂🎉
@johnruppert5630
@johnruppert5630 Жыл бұрын
I heard a pair of open baffle speakers at the Florida Audio Expo pre pandemic and I was blown away by the sound stage, openess and transparency. The negatives however are difficult to overcome for many listeners. First they are power hungry ...not too difficult to overcome in today’s world given the number of large power amps. Secondly is placement, like planar speaker they must be placed significantly away from a back wall which can meet with spousal resistance and room size problems. Lastly a subwoofer is typically a must .. again not a huge issue given the number of great sub’s that are available. As a listener you have to weight the pros and cons and decide .
@klepp19
@klepp19 Жыл бұрын
You are first person to address the cons. BTW to hear decent bass you would need a second 15 inch on top to make it a MTM design.
@guarionexa2956
@guarionexa2956 Жыл бұрын
Love the new speakers!
@glenncurry3041
@glenncurry3041 Жыл бұрын
You've gained back a lot of respect!
@sarahX..
@sarahX.. Жыл бұрын
Agreed about the large woofers. Our active 118db sensitive OB horn speakers has 3x 15 inch paper cone drivers per side. Nothing else sounds good anymore.
@reestyfarts
@reestyfarts Жыл бұрын
Insightful as always Steve. I like the Tekton Open Baffle Sigma so much I asked the producer to build me one with larger upgraded drivers. The answer was no so I am in the market myself. 13 foot listening distance in my new house. Eight inch drivers run out of breath fine as they may be. My wife forbids any speaker taller than she is.
@bri9498
@bri9498 Жыл бұрын
My wife is really tall and obese but says the same, I'm happy with my speakers 😂
@bri9498
@bri9498 Жыл бұрын
Just joking mate!
@seangray3730
@seangray3730 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been meaning to post a review or notes of the Duets. They are so unique and fun. I love listening to Bobby McFerrin’s Beyond Words on them. So many recordings that give you a fun presentation with open baffles. I’m surprised that you didn’t go up to the dual 15” version with your room size.
@Licoricedisc
@Licoricedisc Жыл бұрын
I'm confused as to why he chose the Duet 15 over the Trio 15...especially since he reviewed the Trio 15 already. He mentioned they lacked bass compared to the Klipsch... well... why not the Trio 15 with the extra 15" driver? A quote from Steves Trio 15 review: "“I’ve been changed by these speakers… They liberate the music… The Fastest, cleanest bass I ever heard in my room… That kind of air moving power energizes the room in a completely different way…”
@LS-ti6jo
@LS-ti6jo Жыл бұрын
Doesn't hurt that the PureAudio's also look really cool.
@jons78733
@jons78733 Жыл бұрын
I’ll be keeping my Cornwalls. I auditioned some PureAudio speakers four times. At first I was bowled over but around the third time I listened to them I felt they were novel to me. The impact lessened and I wasn’t as impressed with the playback of some types of music. I ended up keeping my Cornwall IV’s and am still completely satisfied with them. I’m glad you are happy with your new speakers, Steve! They just weren’t for me….
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Жыл бұрын
That’s the thing about this hobby, it’s very much about personal taste. As I said, in the video, it’s not about which one is better, the Klipsch or pure audio project, they sound different . Each of us has to decide which one is right for us.
@sietchtabr5120
@sietchtabr5120 Жыл бұрын
I'm changing my reviewing reference actually 😊, you and some other "notveryexpensive" KZbinr are awsome in each your own approach. 🖖
@Coyotehello
@Coyotehello Жыл бұрын
You have seen the light. lol. I cannot wait to follow you living with these speakers! I love your channel. I also love horns and my love for boxed skrs has diminished over time. I currently run single driver Lii FS15 in open baffle and as a side Ditton 66. I think I can tweak the Lii to perfection within a certain spectrum and then my goal is to not muddy that spectrum but maybe add some lower frequencies without losing the clarity I currently have. This in my experience you cannot do with a boxed or a multi-driver speaker. Cheers, a.
@EnemyofCredulity
@EnemyofCredulity Жыл бұрын
Open baffle speakers are great. I had Infinity Kappas before, now I have some Spatial Audio m-1 Triode Masters and I love their open sound. You will have fun, I have no doubt.
@markhusbands6132
@markhusbands6132 Жыл бұрын
👀 Steve....I wondered for a while what speaker could unseat your beloved Cornwall IVs. I even discussed this with a friend recently. The tonality and transparency got you....plus the urge to change 😊
@josefserf1926
@josefserf1926 Жыл бұрын
You seem to be gradually heading towards a more lively dynamic sound. First the Cornwall's and now Purity Open Baffles. Definitely a direction here.
@michaelcollins2473
@michaelcollins2473 Жыл бұрын
Welcome to the OB world! I have a pair of OB speakers, and I'm not sure I could ever go back to a box speaker.
@stephenstevens6573
@stephenstevens6573 Жыл бұрын
I have to say...I admire your willingness to experiment with different equipment and source material in your audio journey. Once I heard my first pair of Maggie's(a set of tympanies, back in the day,) I felt like I had found my end game speakers. After all these years, I managed to find a pair of MGllas that I could afford 2 years ago. Ever since, I have been happier than I ever thought possible. Still,..there are days that I wonder about other speakers. You, being willing to try different things after you had decided on the Klipsch. You have my sincere respect.
@stephenstevens6573
@stephenstevens6573 Жыл бұрын
@@n_dawson LMAO. Right?
@Justwantahover
@Justwantahover Жыл бұрын
7:26 You are exactly right! My FR semi open cone speakers can have incredible depth. But with some recordings this simply doesn't happen and my speakers don't sound any different to any other speakers. But with some recordings my speakers sound completely different to conventional speakers, way more spacial! So the insane depth is not caused by the speakers, they just reveal it when it's in the recording. Whereas conventional speakers only do it a bit.
@davidsteiner7155
@davidsteiner7155 Жыл бұрын
I have been in and out of hifi shops my whole life and heard klipsch, magnipans, B&Ws, scads of bookshelf speakers and in the end I'm back at the beginning with Ar3s search is over for me. Although if I had a bigger room magnipans would be great. In my current place Villchurs masterpiece suits my fancy.
@mfkhometheater7742
@mfkhometheater7742 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, there are a lot of advantages to open baffle. I've been building open baffle since the mid 1990's and could never go back to conventional box. It is possible to get plenty of bass with open baffle, definitely more and deeper than your Klipsch Cornwall but you might have to build them. Unfortunately there just are not that many commercially available open baffle speakers. The DIY world has the big advantage at least for now, maybe someday there will be more options.
@thomosburn8740
@thomosburn8740 Жыл бұрын
One of the best on the market is the Vandersteen 2. I have two pair of these in my living room.
@bruce8429
@bruce8429 Жыл бұрын
@@thomosburn8740 Vandersteen are sealed speakers, I believe. I know bass driver is.
@brentwalker3300
@brentwalker3300 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that PureAudioProject has a number of models/configurations on offer, some of which use two 12 or15" drivers with a mid/tweeter in the middle (D'Appolito?".
@alexiheaka1074
@alexiheaka1074 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the post Steve. Have you heard of the Lximini dipole OB speakers? If so, what are your thoughts? Im in the process of building an OB with Lii Song drivers.
@cjMbuck
@cjMbuck Жыл бұрын
I still use my 80's Infinity RSII's. As you know the mid and tweeters are open baffle. They still sound great. Open baffle does allow the speaker to get out of the way. Very open.
@stevee484
@stevee484 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, I confused RS II with RS II-A
@ibassnote
@ibassnote Жыл бұрын
Great idea. I always felt the Klipsch were an odd choice as a reference as they have such a distinctive sound signature and personality. Keep trying, keep moving and you’ll never grow old! Ha!
@kenmcglown6642
@kenmcglown6642 Жыл бұрын
Although I've never owned a pair of open baffle speakers, I have on several occasions had the opportunity to hear them and thoroughly enjoyed their virtues, immensely. However, when listening to Maggies, OB or electrostats, as truly wonderful as they all sounded, ultimately, I always felt like I was somehow missing out on something within the music. Like, I wasn't getting the full impact, deep bass and low-end presence that was within the recording. I believe that deep, full range bass, slam and dynamics are a critical part of the musical spectrum in order to create the complete, top-to-bottom, frequency range within the recording. Some can do without this, but not I (not if I don't have to). When I listen to my music, I want to hear everything within the recording, including the lowest bass notes (around 20Hz) and also the full dynamic range and visceral impact of the recording. I want it all!!! In my experience, OB, electrostats, and also ribbon speakers like Maggies ( I have owned Maggies and Martin Logan) have one thing in common, they all fall short. This is why I eventually ended up gravitating right back to extremely high quality, true full range, dynamic speakers, which gave me more of what I was looking for, overall. But, I do completely understand why others absolutely love other types of speakers. They sound fabulous, too.
@joesshows6793
@joesshows6793 Жыл бұрын
15s can be crazy warm. Fantastic
@leekumiega9268
@leekumiega9268 Жыл бұрын
You mentioned the 3D quality of the imaging how they disappear as sound sources and how it's like being there with the Pure Audio Project speakers , all of which which is what the Ohm Walsh speakers are known for , so which is better in those aspects?
@rikardekvall3433
@rikardekvall3433 Жыл бұрын
So good. As Ron at NRD says, OB is a different animal. Love your videos.
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Justwantahover
@Justwantahover Жыл бұрын
The speakers "disappear" more, mostly cos of 2 main factors that most other speakers don't have. Point source sound and dipole sound. Texture and tone coming from a single point is always going to have an advantage over separated tone and texture sounds (like with conventional 2-ways). Any good piano passage will demonstrate the difference. You can make point source dipole speakers sound like the music is coming from anywhere but the speakers (if you are patient enough tweaking them forever).
@tarquineous
@tarquineous 10 ай бұрын
Understandable. I heard a similar one at the Newport Beach Audio Show. The full range driver is made in Oregon, and somewhat expensive. One of their speakers was open baffle, including the separate woofer, their other speaker was their special driver and woofer in a rather large enclosure. I only heard the open baffle speaker, but really liked it. It was in my top two of the entire show. The other was the 100K system by Linn Audio. What you mentioned about tone is what caught my attention. I strongly favor correctness of tone and that is one thing that impressed me in their music room. I believe they were a field coil design.
@MrPINKFL0YD
@MrPINKFL0YD Жыл бұрын
I made a pair of open baffle b4 they were a thing. I used excellent quality drivers and built the crossovers and I still love them
@jaw3410
@jaw3410 Жыл бұрын
I have a pair of Betsy Open Baffles. Actually i made a clone with the same driver and same baffle measurements. My impression is that they sound a lot more holographic than my Klipsch RP-600m's. Both width and depth are larger and they really disappear. Sound effects on Radiohead's "Everything in it's Right Place" (my reference song) seem as though they are coming from different places in the room and at times like sounds are whispering next to my ears....very odd experience. The Klipsch retain some if those qualities, but the sounds do not seem to come as close to me. The one thing that keeps making me go back to the Klipsch is that the lower midrange on the open baffles is not full enough. They start rolling off bass at 80hz I believe. I use 2 subwoofers and cross them over at 60hz with the Klipsch (600's play down to 45hz) and around 100hz with the open baffles. I think the problem is that the subs cannot keep pace with the open baffles in that range and so they don't fill in the lower midrange well enough to fix that issue
@MusicLover-01
@MusicLover-01 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, which is why the duet works so well with a dedicated bass driver that is as fast and punchy as the fullranger. I'd recommend trying out an open baffle sub to complement your setup. You can crossover the sub at 200hz btw to resolve the mid issues. Lii Audio do a fantastic W15 which is good value or if you want the best of the best it is Acoustic Elegance dipoles. Have fun 👍
@geoffreydebrito7934
@geoffreydebrito7934 Жыл бұрын
I too have the Betsy Open Baffles but with the alnico drivers. Lower midrange stops around 200-250 Hz transitioning down to upper bass. The Betsy 8 inch driver simply can't drive the power band optimally. I agree that box woofers can't keep up with the Betsys. Happily there is a somewhat affordable solution. The Lii Audio W-15 open baffle bass driver. There's a KZbin video "Caintuck Lii Audio 15” open baffle subwoofer" that demonstrates the W-15.
@michaelvaladez6570
@michaelvaladez6570 Жыл бұрын
What would we do without Steve Guttenberg reviews an honest ,sincere, upfront accurate information. A person's opinion I can trust. I know of what he's talking about in an open baffle speaker system. Steve describes it better than I could ever do.But I'm a lover of a system that has a horn.Its my preference. Again Steve Guttenberg thank you for a great review. The nose knows but it's the ear that hears.....
@markmcgrath9098
@markmcgrath9098 Жыл бұрын
Really interesting, thank you. Would be very interested to know your comparisons between the bass you experience with the OB vs a TL speaker.
@pnojazz
@pnojazz Жыл бұрын
I just saw that you reviewed their trio’s 3 years ago. Happy you finally got a pair that fits your room. The trio’s were too big anyway!
@SuperMcgenius
@SuperMcgenius Жыл бұрын
Hey Steve, take a look at what your research did with the Maggies 3.7, he address some issues that I’ve always held those speakers back with the exception of the rigidity of the frame
@chrispicquet733
@chrispicquet733 Жыл бұрын
I agree that large woofers have an ease of delivery that smaller woofers can't match. They don't have to move much. Small woofers have to have compliant surrounds to move air,which results in distortion. Open baffle speakers are cool! I have played with designing open baffles/ rear firing woofers that eliminate the box.
@fullrangeexperience747
@fullrangeexperience747 Жыл бұрын
Steve, did you ever tried OB with active amplificated woofers? For example SET amp for fullrange driver and second amp with active crossover for bass?
@socialite1283
@socialite1283 Жыл бұрын
With an open baffle, how does the driver create the low frequency wave if the driver is only moving air from in front to behind? How does that create, say, a 16ft long sound wave (for a 32Hz note) if the driver moves a mere inch or so and the air moves just a few inches from front to back and create a forward/outward traveling wave?
@connorduke4619
@connorduke4619 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know Steve's reference pre/power amp? I have watched dozens of his videos but somehow appear to have missed it.... was it Pass Labs perhaps?
@hobononono3435
@hobononono3435 Жыл бұрын
Completely agree with the comments about bass and bass speaker size. A large driver does bass with such ease and so little effort.
@kl9941
@kl9941 Жыл бұрын
Steve how to view open baffle like the Pure Audio Project compared to Magnepan planar speakers? Not necessarily which is better but rather similarities and differences, strengths and weaknesses. Thanks.
@roberthart9886
@roberthart9886 Жыл бұрын
Many/most of the speakers Ive owned were/are OB from; Accoustat 2 + 2s, Magnepan 3.5Rs (MEH), Emerald Physics KCIIs and for over a year now their 3.4s, 12"driver with 1" polyester tweeter, which is/can be amazing, depending on source (Audiolab 6000CDT), amp (LSA Voyager GaN 350), cables (Ali-Express Odin II gold), Audio Alchemy DDP-1 + PS 5 dac/pre, 20amp dedicate line CorePower 1800 PLC
@carlsitler9071
@carlsitler9071 Жыл бұрын
The tweeter horn was developed long ago to solve the problem of amps of the day being low powered. The upside is horns, like megaphones, concentrate sound waves and like megaphones, they alter to sound so it is unnatural.
@christianjforbes
@christianjforbes Жыл бұрын
I’ve been using a PAP Trio 10 (Mundorf AMT) for about 1 year now … just love them.
@Santos.Sarmento
@Santos.Sarmento Жыл бұрын
One more very good video Steve, thanks for that. But I never lived with open baffle speakers and always thought on how is to handle with dust on the drivers and crossover? Greetings from Brazil.
@mattlehnardt8035
@mattlehnardt8035 Жыл бұрын
you rock Steve!!! thanks
@stimpy1226
@stimpy1226 Жыл бұрын
What a hell of a system this viewer has👍👍👍
@rbrt7615
@rbrt7615 Жыл бұрын
How does an open baffle design deal with phase? I thought that a woofer would normally have phase cancellation without a sealed box, or tuned port and bass would disappear?
@rabit818
@rabit818 Жыл бұрын
Big woofer can move more air, which most of you know. I have a big 70s Marantz 6-G and it's effortless. The accuracy, efficiency and speed is another story due to it's age, but it plays loud
@thomasarmbruster1743
@thomasarmbruster1743 Жыл бұрын
"Motel Shot" is a cool record. I have the original vinyl. I've recently made a number of upgrades (hell, it's essentially a new system). I'll need to dust that off. Thanks for the reminder.
@NeilBlanchard
@NeilBlanchard Жыл бұрын
I have a new reference speaker - a mass loaded transmission line. It has just a total of 14.1 grams of total Mms between the woofer and the tweeter, and it has essentially flat response in my room down to ~32Hz. The imaging is very 3 dimensional, and quite "unboxy". It is easy to place, and is designed to be close to the wall.
@edwardlewandowski
@edwardlewandowski Жыл бұрын
Klipsch should have awarded the Cornwalls to you for the number of pairs you sold.
@ReflectedMiles
@ReflectedMiles Жыл бұрын
Cool. So how do they do in conflicted reflections and phase response in a thorough TEF analysis of the room, which I'm assuming is not engineered specifically for that application or their location within that environment? The pros using OB and home-audiophiles using OB are two very different things. The Klipsch will be more controlled and therefore deliver more consistent performance across different rooms.
@paulstubbs7678
@paulstubbs7678 Жыл бұрын
Would love some Cornwall's - but oh the price.... Dipole speakers sound like a good way to go, although not really compatible to my loungeroom. (where would all the speaker-top 'decorations' go)
@klaymoon1
@klaymoon1 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Have you heard the horn speakers by Pure Audio Project? I'm very curious how those sound compared to Voxativ.
@maudeboivin6690
@maudeboivin6690 Жыл бұрын
I would certainly love those new reference speakers but one thing you should definitely mention is that the set you have has the Voxativ midrange speaker which is at the very least a $3500 option if not more, way more. Couldn’t check it out, the site is down or shall I say submerged with viewers 😮
@DrGIzmoBRad
@DrGIzmoBRad Жыл бұрын
Steve, Does the 15" woofer's bass have less distortion than smaller LF drivers? Also does the full range driver use a contour network? Thanks :)
@tallpaull9367
@tallpaull9367 Жыл бұрын
great video. It would be cool to see you go to Texas and review GR-Researches system and treated room, off-grid power… and share your thoughts. Also, nobody has reviewed his X-Statik diy kit yet, I think that could interest many
@chrispicquet733
@chrispicquet733 Жыл бұрын
I also have been playing with full range drivers a lot lately,like the speakers that you are debuting.
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