Police Leave 4 Kids at Roadside After Arresting their Father

[@tammyschilling5362]

You shouldn't need a policy. If you aren't smart enough to figure out that you need to make sure these kids are taken care of, you aren't smart enough to carry a gun.

[@wendwllhickey6426]

Cops that should be security at the mall

[@rad4579]

Cops are never smart enough to carry a gun.

[@ElainCorrine]

@@wendwllhickey6426 They are not even qualified for that.

[@carljones9130]

I say this a lot: Police are never hired for their intelligence.

[@joekahno]

"We don need to think! We has us a POLICY!"

[@jamesodell3064]

If a parent left four children alone in a car at 11:30 at night that parent would be charged with four counts of child neglect.

[@Nimion2]

Steve, show a little outrage for once. Stop licking the laws' boots.

[@allanwidner9276]

@@Nimion2 Pretty sure you don;t understand what Steve Lehto's job here is. It isn't to feed outrage, that's for sure.

[@phobos258]

It's just a policy violation if you're a cop.

[@George4943]

They became _in loco parentis_ upon the father's arrest. They, in the legal role of acting parent, abandoned 4 children, 1 a babe in arms, at the roadside.

[@CraigGrant-sh3in]

You can't even leave your kids in the car to run into the store to get something . The cops should be charged with child endangerment

[@michelleruffin6903]

This isn’t incompetence. This is evil!!!!

[@sharonzaid8284]

Soulless

[@cocoace7587]

Soooooo , the next time a Mom , leaves her kids in the car , to run in the store , they shouldn't get charged. If the cops aren't charged, for leaving 3 kids in a car , at night , aren't charged. I wouldn't leave my kids , but if someone does , direct them to this video . # let's call a spade a spade ♠️

[@robertaylor9218]

This isn’t just civil. These officers need to be criminally charged. This is extraordinarily serious on every level.

[@pigpuke]

Indeed, the "policy" on this is the already existing Federal and State laws regarding child endangerment which they broke.

[@qandidhater673]

Yes. Had the dad left his children on the side of the road, he would be charged with 4 counts of child abandonment.

[@weltonvillegal6258]

@@qandidhater673- Give them time. They’ll charge him with that. Never underestimate the stupidity of law enforcement.

[@sharonzaid8284]

This is just soulless.

[@sharonzaid8284]

​@@weltonvillegal6258not stupidity just soulless.

[@george1358]

Leaving a 1-year-old unattended at that time of night in the middle of nowhere would be considered child endangerment in my state and the officers would be arrested by child protective services. These people should be criminally charged.

[@MonkeyJedi99]

That cop definitely put the fun in funeral... I'm kidding.

[@ianbattles7290]

Isn't it funny how child abuse magically stops being child abuse if you pin a badge on your chest?

[@Trainwheel_Time]

In YOUR state huh? I'll bet your wrong.

[@kennethfeagins1414]

You sure they wouldn't hide behind qualified immunity, then turn around and charge the father for abandonment?

[@tedkaczynskiamericanhero3916]

​@@ianbattles7290"I'm from the government and I'm here to help"

[@davidw.5185]

Beyond disturbing. The officers deserve zero leniency. Endangering the lives of four minors is unconscionable.

[@electroninja8768]

We need to abolish qualified immunity. Under no circumstance does one citizen not paying a fine give another human the right to abandon four children on the side of the road. That is child endangerment, and if the officer that did that stop doesn't spend time in jail, the system will remain as broken as it is now.

[@kinjunranger140]

How about "don't break the law." Or is that too difficult to understand? Fate already screwed those kids, by giving them a POS father.

[@annettespradlin4945]

It wasn't their fault. They didn't ask for it.

[@thedirtprincess3293]

What do you mean? Thats crazy talk! Im certain they will investigate themselves with all due integrity and find no wrongdoing, so what's the issue? 🤣

[@mrbob4u495]

@@kinjunranger140 You assume facts not in evidence. While his situation might be against the law, it is a minor infraction that does not justify abandoning minor kids along the roadside. In most cases the car is impounded, a citation issued, and an appropriate family member is notified to come retrieve those in the car. Policy was violated. This is no small thing by the police. General support for the law and police is not absolute. These cops failed miserably in their duty.

[@jeromethiel4323]

@@kinjunranger140 I hope you never serve on a jury. You are assuming that this guy is a deadbeat. There are a lot of ways you can end up without insurance, and also an expired license. Life isn't always neat. Since you do not know anything other than this guy "allegedly" broke the law he is a deadbeat dad. We don't even know if the uninsured and expired license are true. It most probably is, but we only know what the police claim at this point. Which should NEVER be the sole evidence of ANY crime.

[@George4943]

They abandoned children -- period. They were _in loco parentis_ upon the father's arrest. There can be no 'technical' immunity for that in a civilized society. It would be madness not to throw the book and everything else available at them. Disgusting. Immoral. Unethical. Untrustworthy. All at Once.

[@George4943]

Whatever led you to believe I was not relaxed. I can't imagine@@robertd7073 .

[@glintinggold]

@@robertd7073 LOL That's what they say as they squeeze your neck.

[@AquaMarineFBVA]

There should be no imunity period. The immunity excuses a lack of responsibility to the public and to treat other people with dignity.

[@karenneill9109]

This is outrageous. The police should be criminally charged.

[@PromptCriticalJello]

But they have no duty of care to the public. Unless they want an excuse to violate your rights, only then do they claim a duty of care to the community.

[@ianbattles7290]

I would be charged with a crime if I kidnapped a father and left his kids alone on the roadside *simply because the father owed me money.*

[@DrewWalton]

You say nobody got hurt, but those kids were absolutely traumatized. That counts as being hurt in my book.

[@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket]

It really doesn't matter if someone got hurt, "It's ok because we got lucky" isn't a defense for child endangerment.

[@toregenekhatun480]

Trauma from this a lifelong issue that these children will live with, yeah therapy is what everyone says to do but it doesn't change the fact they will always fear and possibly hate police from this point forward!

[@stevenmeyer6871]

You shouldn't have to be traumatized by them to fear and hate the police. Just seeing their behavior should be enough.

[@beatricesomeone3300]

@@toregenekhatun480 Not to mention the cost of a therapy ... and you are absolutely correct ... they gona hate and fear the police now but the pigs don't care and btw Lehto was referring to bodily injuries i guess

[@Atmatan]

Also, dude got tazed

[@shadeyreign]

Child endangerment charges for the cops. They essentially had custody and control of the kids after they arrested the father. And then proceeded to endanger/abandon the children

[@godsamongmen8003]

Cops do far worse than that every day. But this case has good publicity, so a cop might get thrown under the bus.

[@dacianbonta2840]

@@godsamongmen8003 all of them

[@dacianbonta2840]

@@godsamongmen8003 all of them. all those physically present should be jailed. the shift supervisor and department chief should be fired.

[@jonathanjones3126]

​@@dacianbonta2840not just fired lose the ability to work in government or security for life

[@moreanimals6889]

My Dad used to work for a company that would test the software used in red light cameras. Sometimes cops would stop by, which my Dad hated. Once a cop bragged about something similar except instead of someone getting arrested, they confiscated the vehicle on the freeway, leaving the driver and their kids stranded. To make matters worse, the driver was in a wheelchair. This is one of the stories my Dad still cites, as to why he thinks police are sick individuals, society should get rid of.

[@bend8353]

Let me know how that works out

[@KDSima]

Unfortunately, we need cops. We also need to get rid of qualified immunity. We need to allow people to sue gun manufacturers too.

[@valarianne2284]

Bragged about it. Hmmm. Because nowadays the cops are power mad bullies. How sick is that? Bragging that you left people stranded. Why would anyone think that was cool? Or funny? And that schmuck went around admitting - no, Bragging!- that he did that. That is the mind set of a sociopath.

[@MattH-wg7ou]

​@@KDSima woah woah woah you had me until that last hard left turn lol

[@KDSima]

@@MattH-wg7ou 🤷‍♀️… the number of guns we have is part of the problem w/police. They don’t know if the person they pull over, or the house they go up to, or the person they r chasing is some who has a gun. That is y we need to do something about guns. Charging the Crumbley’s was a nice start to the school shooting problem we have. In Dodge City Wyatt Earp required everyone leave their guns outside of downtown town. If they were caught with a gun they were fined $100…That is over $3100 in 2024 value. Solved their problem. Why should gun manufacturers not be liable to lawsuits like every other industry?

[@byronvanvalkenburg8685]

Imagine what would happened to the father had he left his kids like that.

[@dwainmcwilliams2043]

Police would have beaten him within an inch of his his life. And that 1 year old would be charged as an adult, because it was no doubt posing as a pygmy.

[@crypticnomad]

Those police created a situation where some kids will never trust police and have a very good reason to not trust them. I hope those officer's mothers hear about this and they give them the "how could you do that to children, I raised you better than that" speech

[@ElementofKindness]

That's a fact. When I was 13~14ish, a cop had accused me of committing a crime that I did not, I guess simply because I happened to be a person closest to where the crime occurred at the time. It has left a lasting distrust of police. As a side benefit, I suppose, it has kept me off jury duty, because when asked if I will unquestionably believe testimony of a police officer, I stated "no" and I have gotten dismissed for that.

[@gregoryfrickey1715]

YUP

[@crypticnomad]

@@ElementofKindness yeah there was a similar incident for me around the same age. A hispanic kid stole from a 711-like store and the clerk, who knew me, described the kid as something like "short hispanic kid wearing a blue shirt", so of course the cop goes to the kinda dorky, tall, white kid wearing a black shirt and just snatches him up out of nowhere and aggressively. Then back at the store the clerk even kinda gave the cop shit because I was almost as far from her description as I could have been.

[@BillyBOB-sm3rl]

​@@ElementofKindness I will remember this one.

[@philliprat6355]

Not good enough charge them for child endangerment and no more law enforcement jobs anymore

[@jeanneardinger3664]

Years ago similar things happened in upstate NY. Pregnant woman her two kids and elderly mother were stopped. The cop refused to understand the vehicle was registered to her business and she was listed owner of business. They arrested her towed car and left elderly mom and kids on dark no sidewalk road. They cuffed her to bench at the station and wouldn't let her make a call or use bathroom. When it shook out the entire force was fired

[@mikecartermulcy]

Policies don't mean crap, issue is MO Child protection laws, and this falls clearly into, as minimum, 4 counts of Child Endangerment. The LEO took responsibility for children as soon as parent placed in custody.

[@Dirk_the_Daring]

Policies are what sovereign citizens are required to follow, sometimes. You will never find a single internal affairs investigation say a single word about a cop breaking the law. They are not subject to the law.

[@fumblerooskie]

You don't actually think the LEO will be charged, do you? At most they'll get a slap on the wrist in public, and a pat on the back in private. They'll likely also get a paid vacation.

[@Heynmffc]

@@fumblerooskielol he’ll get a raise

[@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket]

@@Dirk_the_Daring "Sovereign Citizens" aren't a thing, there is a group of whacko's who think their sovereign but you it isn't a thing. We are all citizens, residents, guests, or illegal immigrants there is no "Sovereign Citizen". You can not claim the benefit of citizenship and assert you are not beholden to the laws of the land as governed by the US Constitution, Congress, courts, and the President. Not to mention Governors and state legislators.

[@paulyoung181]

@@fumblerooskie In Hazlewood MO? nothing will happen.

[@marktuttle3609]

More than a policy. This could be considered child endangerment.

[@cobracommander9138]

But Steve doesn't want to talk about that.

[@pauls5745]

How are they keeping anyone safe by leaving a BABY and children in a running car in the middle of the night? Someone has to answer for this. That is so wrong!

[@christine_lovelace]

One of the most disgusting stories I've heard. Shame on those cops

[@mustaffa1611]

you must be new to earth then. welcome.

[@Relkond]

There’s worse. Imagine being confused for someone else, pulled over, cuffed, locked in the back seat of a cruiser, left parked on the train tracks, with the train whistle blowing.

[@johnmicheal3547]

"Shame" isn't enough to cover for their action.

[@ThatOpalGuy]

@@Relkond that woman was extremely 'lucky' to have survived.

[@Alverant]

In Chicago a cop punched a 14YO in the throat for no reason.

[@peterb2272]

Going to pont out that they asked if any of the passengers had a licence. They were expecting someone to drive a car with an expired plate, which was exactly the reason he got pulled over in the first place.

[@conscientiousobserver8772]

Keep in mind, it wasn't the expired plate, but the 5-year old warrant that put the guy in cuffs. The plates would have only been a ticket.

[@peterb2272]

@@conscientiousobserver8772 They wanted another driver to drive the vehicle with an expired plate so they could give them a ticket as well?

[@conscientiousobserver8772]

@@peterb2272 Now, that's genius! I wouldn't put it past them.

[@xandercraw]

Oh my God that is literally psychopathic behaviour. How the hell did these guys even get a job in the police force?

[@runeingebretsen8378]

By having no morals and ethics,they are just the people the police force love to hire,i remember once upon a time people didn't want to hurt children,it seems those days are no more.

[@keith2772]

Because they displayed psychopathic tendencies.

[@xonx209]

Police jobs tend to attract people who like to use force and power

[@Keenath]

I'm *pretty sure* the taser thing was about the fact that he started resisting when he realized they were about to drag him off and leave his infant child on the side of the road! There's not a parent on the planet who'd just calmly get in the cop car in this circumstance!

[@gungho1284]

Plus the fact that there's no need at all to arrest someone with citation fines.

[@pw6048]

As a parent, i can honestly say that if that happend to me and my kids, the cop would need live Insurance.

[@marychocolatefairy]

Pardon for the 6 months later response, but yes, there's been video that a bystander took, and gave to the family, that showed him being arrested (KMOV St Louis aired it). And it absolutely was because he was worried about the kids being left. He wasn't a threat to the police at all, not attacking them or anything. He just didn't want to leave the kids. It looked like the police tased him to shut him up and so they wouldn't have to put effort into getting him in the police car. KMOV interviewed him later, and he said that they weren't that far from home, and he had just wanted the kids at least dropped off there first.

[@warshipsdd-2142]

Former LEO here, they had an absolute and immediate duty to those kids. With dad in custody they had to provide for their welfare and safety untill proper transfer to a proper famlily member of DCS/CPS. failure is chargeable under state and federal dependancy and neglect laws.

[@ralphholiman7401]

Yep. I remember arresting a father on a felony drug warrant one afternoon, and having to sit with two young kids, entertaining them and feeding them, for hours until a relative showed up to get them. That made me go to a lot of trouble in the future to not arrest adults with kids unless it was absolutely necessary.

[@RonSafreed]

In Canada the RCMP are breaking into homes at night/early morning to talk to kids without the parent/parent's consent!! A recent case in Newfoundland with a mother & 11 year old daughter!!

[@glintinggold]

We don't need a "former LEO" to tell us that. Thanks but police are not more qualified to judge things like this.

[@bboywolf]

​@@RonSafreedgreat way to get sent to the hospital police or not

[@MD-zm6sn]

@@glintinggold Guess "qualified" along with a lengthy list of other words mean whatever you want them to mean in any particular context haha.

[@mjsinger1944]

All officers should be charged and arrested for abandoning those children, NO if ands or buts about it!!!!!!!

[@markit8785]

As a person going into the medical field … I am terrified of losing my license over mistakes I may not have even been able to control…. And these cops never lose their jobs…. It is ridiculous. Separate cops from government.

[@NotHappening-b8t]

union bs is what it is.

[@KDSima]

I hope u r not suggesting LE work for corporations?

[@yonimelanin9807]

It actually is separated. They push policy instead of laws. And it goes from the top down✨

[@sheriwright5411]

Peds nurse here. I agree!!!! Probably traumatized for life.

[@neeterdave]

They should be charged with child endangerment!

[@jonahzablow2132]

Qualified immunity.

[@Caffin8tor]

​@@jonahzablow2132FQI

[@bboywolf]

​@@jonahzablow2132only if youre acting within the law... qualified immunity does not apply here

[@cobracommander9138]

Question is why didn't Steve talk about that and instead just talked about the policy violation.

[@jeffreyisenberg830]

They'll turn your kids over to children's services if they feel you disciplined them too harshly but will let the cop off with little or no consequences when he abandons 4 kids along the road late at night. Something wrong with this picture.

[@deemcc7784]

Those kids are traumatized! They watched their dad abused over a ticket and tazed! Dad down screaming and disappears! Horrendous!

[@netpackrat]

My wife was involved in a traffic accident years ago (sitting at a red light, somebody rear ended the vehicle behind her hard enough to shove it into her vehicle). We didn't realize it at the time, but the cop was supposed to give her a form to fill out and submit with her proof of insurance. Never gave her the other driver's info either, but luckily their insurance reached out to us and got the vehicle fixed. Anyway, since she never knew she had to submit a form with proof of insurance, her license was revoked and no notice was ever sent to us. She only found out 3 years later when she went to get her license renewed, and had to jump through a bunch of hoops to show that we did have insurance at the time. But had she been pulled over during those 3 years, she probably would have been arrested at the side of the road just like the guy in the story. All because of one uniformed jackass not doing his job, and a system that presumes you are guilty.

[@moej6014]

Similar happened to me when I was 17 and 18. Got a ticket but the officer didn't ask for insurance and was marked as not having insurance. Get pulled over 6 months later and I found out that it was suspended.

[@Michael-uj2fb]

Stories like this are a dime a dozen, yet we still allow these folks to investigate themselves on the honor system, and while we are told ignorance is not an excuse, it is for them

[@p.gizzle90]

@@moej6014😢Same…I was 17.

[@vinasn]

Did this happen in Rhode Island? Because this definitely happened to me and my license was suspended. So for 5 years, I just drove around not knowing my license was suspended over an insurance form that was never given to me. Sure enough, I was arrested. For 4 hours I was in a jail cell with a crazy person until I could see a judge. My saving grace was that I was arrested first thing in the morning, so I was able to see a judge right away. Had I been arrested on a Friday afternoon, I’m sure I would of been in jail all weekend. I paid a fine of about $150.

[@netpackrat]

@@vinasn Alaska.

[@icanhazgoodgame3845]

Leaving your kids in the car to run into store can be considered child endangerment unless you are a cop and instead of a parking lot, its the side of a highway at night.

[@knine8154]

Brings the "no obligation to protect" to a whole new level

[@Recovering_Californian]

After thoroughly investigating themselves no policy violations were found. Carry on folks ..

[@GeorgieB1965]

So says Chief Wiggums at his official press conference.

[@zsleepwalker]

The cops then got together and removed that policy--retroactive to before this incident!

[@cashrjr23]

when I work in a department we had to put an inventory report of property left behind after leaving the scene and or wait for a tow vehicle...this was policy

[@ThatOpalGuy]

wash, rinse, repeat. but yet we still have 'freedumbs', so its all good

[@anthoyify]

Apparently yeah. Damn shame...

[@donrodgers283]

I’m a retired sheriffs officer from NYS. I remember a case in, I believe it was in Paterson NJ where the police left behind someone and they where murdered 15 minutes later. It was at night in a very bad part of town. It ended up costing 1 life and millions in compensation. There may be charges for the cops and a lawsuit. They should be fired. Either way the town is on the hook and rightfully so. They never even checked to see if the kids where home safely. I sure the father kept opening his mouth. What about their superior officer. Where was his head, up his butt. Unbelievable

[@cementer7665]

I have to wonder if YOU were part of the situation. As a 'retired' sheriff's officer, I will bet that you have lots of pleasant memories of abusing the RIGHTS of a citizen, which leads to much fun and laughter as you remininse with YOUR fellow pigs.

[@Kurgosh1]

No chance of a lawsuit. They'll hold child endangerment charges over the father and destroy his life if he tries to sue them.

[@itsnotthesamething]

@@Kurgosh1 I don't think so. Not in this case. It has made national headlines, and scandalized their department. I think they will let these cops go. And I also believe they will lose a lawsuit. I haven't heard a soul come to the defense of these officers. Rightly so. Who could defend that?

[@markbonner1139]

@cementer7665 YUR SUCH A HATER!!!

[@vonclod123]

Fired?? ya, that'll teach em. Fired out of a f'ing cannon maybe

[@ElementofKindness]

There's no situation police can't manage to make things worse.

[@dash4800]

Ive said it a hundred times but there needs to be federal laws prohibiting cops from physically arresting people for nothing more than expired paperwork, fines or anything of that sort. This should have been a ticket witha court summons and thats it.

[@williamwallace9826]

The problem is that the driver already had a summons, from three years prior, that he had ignored. A warrant is a higher priority than an infraction. They had to arrest him on the warrant -- but that doesn't excuse abandoning the kids.

[@dash4800]

@@williamwallace9826 my point is things like that should not be arrestable offenses. That sort of violation basically boils down to not paying a fee, you should not be able to be arrested for not paying a fee. Especially when governments are incredibly inept at telling people and when police are so eager to crank things to 11 when they see there is a warrant. Warrent comes with a certain connotation and when a cop sees that their demeanor towards the person quickly changes to adversarial. It all leads to a situation that didn't have to happen if they weren't treating something so minor as if it were a real crime.

[@dash4800]

@@Forakus yes, the terrible anarchy of people not having to pay fealty to the government for a piece of paper saying they can do basic crap

[@AliciaGuitar]

My town had a huge scandal where they were jailing ppl for unpaid fees and fines, and it was deemed unconstitutional and a "poor man's jail". The ppl who were jailed won a huge class action and all got thousands of dollars in compensation. This man should def sue! He will win big!

[@Metqa]

@@dash4800 I understand where you are coming from and the intention, but the problem is, it's not just about paying a fee. A court Summons is an official visit, to determine guilt or innocence about an issue, and there may or may not be a fine involved depending on the outcome. the Problem is if you sign that citation, you are making a PROMISE to go to court for that situation, that promise is why you are allowed to drive away freely, because you will come back on your own. Now I believe it is bullshit when you have to go all the way to another city becasue of ticket happy cops, but in that case they pirate the money off of you by getitng you to admit guilt and send the money to the place instead of showing up to defend yourself. So there are two ways to avoid being arrested or being inconvenienced. If a person promises to go to the court, but then they cannot, there is a procedure for telling the court, for example if you are already arrested and in custody, they cannot hold you in contempt. I you are in the hospital or something you can get it postponed. My Friend pulled over for something and then a ticket for not having insurance. He didn't pay the fine, to avoid going to court. So he was supposed to go and plead his case why he shouldn't be punished or whatever. but rather than go, he just DIDNT and he also didnt' renew his insurance, so when he got pulled over again, Because his tag was still expired, they saw that he had a bench warrant from last year for the same thing! That meant he could not be trusted on his own word, that is literally what it means. I was pissed because us being pulled over made ME late and I had to pay a late appointment fee. but I didn't feel bad for him at all because nothing had kept him from showing up to his case. They let him pay bail and I found him walking home from the jail. I guess he went to the second summons, but it hasn't come up in conversation. It is hard not to assume race has something to do with whether cops will treat a person with physical aggression. I hate to admit that I assume the family in the video story are People of Color, because why on earth would cops feel the need to tase a person over a warrant. Why they coudn't understand that a person would be combative being taken away from their children, even if the arrest were justified. My friend is White and the officers were practically apologizing to him for having to arrest him. I get the feeling that the officers who pulled over the family were NOT apologetic, and did not display any sort of concern or explain that they cared about the safety and well being of anyone in that car. Something as simple as " Hey Man, you got a bench warrant, and that means we gotta arrest you because you failed to show on a signed promise, but we gotta figure out what to do about your children. Do you have someone you can call to come pick them up? We are in no hurry and don't want to do anything hasty, but I have to arrest you and put you in my car ,so call your fiance, and officer Richard will stay here with the children until she arrives. " Even if the man still didn't like it, at least that would de-escalate some of the tension, and show that they aren't just bully arseholes out to get another number. Which they were, of course, but we can dream.

[@cmgngmc]

NOW YOU KNOW WHY THE PEOPLE HAVE NO RESPECT FOR POLICE ANY MORE , AND IF YOU LEAVE KIDS ABANDONED YOU WOULD BE CHARGED

[@dragons_red]

And you are stoopid for saying so. Not ALL cops are bad, but there are plenty that are. Blanketing everyone with the reputation of some is destructive prejudice, don't be so B&W

[@dangeary2134]

@@dragons_redthe hood ones are few and far between. Knowing about this, watching it, participating in it, and not doing anything, and this is what we get. No point in joining the PD if you’re just going to get drummed out or worse by speaking up!

[@vihtoripuurola3775]

There are way more good stories of police interactions with people than there are bad ones. Don't be such an emo and focus on the negative ones only.

[@bboywolf]

​@@vihtoripuurola3775this is a lie. You know how i knoe? Majority of people are scared/intimidated by police. Even innocent white women dont feel comfortable. Its within their training to see you as "them" and everyone in blue as "us". Police are always scared but ready to commit violence for the slightest reason.

[@bboywolf]

​@@dragons_redso i guess i can't say politicians are corrupt because some of them aren't.... yeah, no they're corrupt

[@jaycooper2812]

The officers who left the children behind should be criminally charged with child endangerment.

[@radioguyone]

It's becoming harder and harder to support the police (and my father was an officer).

[@overlandbyday1130]

Don’t worry, it’s becoming harder and harder to support the citizens.

[@chekelley6861]

@@overlandbyday1130police are citizens. Thats something they seemed to have forgotten.

[@LadyAdakStillStands]

So was mine. A very bad man with a badge who committed many crimes against citizens and derelicted his sworn duty to the public in a major nationwide case. I can't support that part of our society knowing what I do.

[@mikecartermulcy]

Combine this with Hazlewood police chief not being arrested for a DUI caught on cam, this shows a PD that needs to have a thorough cleaning, firings, loss of pensions and police certs.

[@petermastenbroek7719]

Yes, but the chief was one of their criminal gangmembers mates in blue, so he couldn't be a guilty mofo pos.

[@darkwing3713]

Yes they do. The shitfaced police chief actually retired, but there's still something really wrong with this department. Imagine leaving little kids alone at night in a neighborhood with one of the highest crime rates in the country. That's a police department that feels nothing but hatred and contempt for everyone.

[@SatanicKale]

With the father arrested, the officers had custody of those kids and they were completely negligent. No way qualified immunity covers this because if a reasonable officer thinks it's alright to do this, we are more screwed than we can imagine.

[@Matok1]

Wow, that's a crazy level of cruelty. You might at first think hey, the kids ended up being ok. Did they? Pretty sure all but the 1 year old are going to remember this moment when the police took their father and left them abandoned by the side of the road. That's not what I'd call being ok.

[@paulrobertson1574]

Those kids will very likely have it out for cops for the rest of their lives. Years from now, one may even be in an altercation with police and strangers on in the KZbin comments will ask: "Why don't people respect police anymore?"

[@gregoryfrickey1715]

YUP

[@hermesten1000]

@@paulrobertson1574 Because increasingly they fail to earn or deserve it.

[@gula9993]

The police damaged and traumatized my child decades ago and I have never forgotten or forgiven them for the senseless hate to a child, made less than.

[@runeingebretsen8378]

And what would stop someone to jump in the car and kidnap the children?

[@jeromethiel4323]

"To protect and serve." Yep. But it's not the public, it's themselves.

[@annettespradlin4945]

That slogan barely exists anymore on police cars. They have been gradually deleting it. Probably so they won't get sued.

[@peterb2272]

To protect their income and serve their own interests.

[@el_chavez]

Well actually, if you are part of the owner class you get pretty good protection….well, at least your property does.

[@breakingboardrooms1778]

It's the rich and tyrannical, including them.

[@hermesten1000]

@@el_chavez The only reason police exist is to serve the interests of the ruling class, any benefit to the general public is strictly incidental.

[@thandie67]

Just yesterday i was telling my husband that Americans care more about dogs than other human beings.

[@DonziGT230]

I've got one better. A buddy of mine was arrested and removed from his boat leaving a bunch of kids on it. The boat had an electrical problem and wouldn't start, none of the kids knew how to operate the boat even if it was able to start. And to top it off, the cops wouldn't even let the guy drop the anchor so they were all left adrift with no way to secure the boat or get to shore. His arrest was for BUI (boating under the influence) his BAC was .04, half the legal limit. Luckily one of the kids was able to get ahold of my brother, he put together a small crew to go get them and the boat back to the marina.

[@amusedBYfools]

Out- fuking- rageous! Where was this? How long ago? Has a civil suit been filed?

[@myke5696]

Get this terrible story on the news or at least youtube. And sue if possible

[@DonziGT230]

@@amusedBYfools Lake Pleasant in Arizona, and it was several years ago. He didn't file a suit, and it's probably well out of statute of limitations by now.

[@DonziGT230]

@@myke5696 It's been several years, a bit late for any action.

[@godsamongmen8003]

Sounds about right for a cop.

[@bluegizmo1983]

I dont know the details of this story anymore than what you said here, but I'd be willing to bet large sums of money that the ONLY reason the dad got tazed is because the cops told him they were arresting him and he started freaking out yelling that he has kids in the car and they can't be left alone on the side of the road like that and probably started resisting at that point, so the A-hole cop tazed him and then DELIBERATELY drove off leaving the kids there to really set off the dad and make him worry.

[@leelaural]

I'd put up a fuss too if my children were endangered.

[@Joseph-j3z1i]

And not only that if any of those police officers were were fathers of themselves they should have their children removed from the household while while he lives there

[@ErickWhite-Gronok]

My thoughts too, but without more information I have to hold that part in judgement. Though that's what my instinct tries to tell me, cause I would be freaking out too and going, "Seriously" and my own run ins with glitches and stupidity with the system makes me question anything coming that way. If you know what I'm saying.

[@kendallsmith1458]

He said no. He was tazed....

[@Smoothstinger]

He was asking about his kids, they had to shut him up some how, I'm mean how dare he be a good father and worry about his kids, afterall he's a criminal. My God you have to think like the great protectors!!!

[@regigill7186]

If a parent left their kids alone on the side of the road they would be charged with child neglect!!!! All of the officers involved should be charged for the same thing.

[@benx6264]

In the Army we used to have a question we asked folks who screwed up - "At what point in the decision making process did you decide this was a good idea?" So that s what I'd have to ask these cops - "At what point in the decision making process did you decide that leaving kids on the side of the road at close to midnight was a good idea?"

[@hermesten1000]

LOL, decision process. You don't need one when you're not accountable for anything you do

[@Shaolin91z]

Who cares😂

[@sparklemotion8377]

Like invading Iraq?

[@KDSima]

The answer to the question is “The moment I realized the driver was black”. If the driver was white the answer would be “The moment I realized he didn’t have any money”. Doesn’t happen to white people w/money.

[@allisonyoung4273]

​@shaolinsoldier1762 OH well you know, our Black kids don't matter as much as other kids. Racism laid BARE!!

[@twopairofkids]

Better yet, the Dad lost his car insurance because he forgot to let the insurance know that the kids live with him. 😂😂😂

[@witolddupa]

Saw that video too

[@loveydovey8383]

Ya, THAT was an insane video, too. Like, WTH??

[@shannonp1656]

Just the 14 year old

[@glee21012]

exactly

[@amusedBYfools]

I wonder if that guy was fined for not having valid insurance at the time of the accident? & how expensive was it for him to get new insurance since he had no policy in force when applying for new insurance?

[@bricefleckenstein9666]

The officers that abandoned those kids should be CRIMINALLY charged with child abandonment, THEN sued for child abuse. They took responsibility for the kids when they arrested the parent and drove them off to jail. Time of day or night doesn't matter - if anything, the time of day should be an exacerbating circumstance.

[@jay-day]

If they were arresting him with his 4 kids in the car, my guess is he was freaking out over them forcing him to abandon his kids. The response of a human being is to check the car. The response of a megalomaniac is to tase his victim and drive off.

[@bayoumeme7743]

That is child abandonment on the police department.

[@jonahzablow2132]

Qualified immunity.

[@TheAkashicTraveller]

@@jonahzablow2132 Qualified immunity protects them from lawsuits not criminal prosecution.

[@reginaslowter208]

If a parent did this to their own child, this would be a case in court!

[@user-rw7xg6wg1h]

The cops would charge anyone else for leaving minors on the side of the road like that.

[@jonahzablow2132]

Yes, but the police are immune.

[@Theonedjneo]

You're right; not much will happen. But what should happen is the officers should be fired, arrested, and charged with child endangerment.

[@sarahburnham7197]

if a non-cop had done that, they would be at least be charged w/ child endangerment.

[@timstatham8838]

Officers should be charged with child neglect and fired for disregard of established policy and denied any immunity.

[@steveladner4346]

Fines and fee's are more important than human life.

[@Koomoa]

It’s actually respecting a cops authority

[@annettespradlin4945]

Yeah, but the poor kids shouldn't have to suffer for it.

[@stephenvale2624]

Just as a non lawyer thinking here... If the police take the custodian of four minor children into custody in the middle of the night, and then recklessly abandon those children (in a running carbon monoxide generating car!), to some unknown fate (say to some passing pedophile), it seems to me that those same laws covering the depraved indifference of a parent who left children in a hot car, would apply, and expose those police to criminal child abuse charges.

[@peterkn2]

I hope the police get charged with child endangerment x 4. They need to use common sense!

[@jonahzablow2132]

They won’t. They have qualified immunity.

[@bboywolf]

​@@jonahzablow2132why? You can't break the law even if you're an officer. Abandoning children is not in policy or within the law

[@waikanaebeach]

The law on this is that the officer becomes responsible for the children as soon as they detain the parent or guardian. The become Immediately responsible for their care and safety. Therefore this becomes failure to protect a minor that is in your custody, clear breach of the child protection law.

[@niterocketnick5963]

right, the cop assumes responsibility for the suspects rights. The suspect has a right to keep his children secure and his children have a right to be secure. So when we gonna see the prosecutor charge the cops for child neglect. Should we citizens arrest the bad cops and turn them over to be prosecuted for the crimes alleged. DO we need arms for this act.

[@shawnbottomley6381]

So the Officer that abandon the kids at the road side should be charged with something like child endangerment x4 cause once the Dad was arrested difficult for the Father to want to be with his kids. I say the officer or officers involved should face jail time and have their job taken away and prevent them from ever becoming Police Officers again and carry it for rest of their lifes.

[@jamesries5534]

So, instead of their, 'policy', I'm wondering what the law is on this.

[@godsamongmen8003]

Now if only any cop actually cared to follow the law...

[@Ryan-re1rs]

I was a passenger in a car that was pulled over at 2am, and the driver was arrested. This was on a highway far from anywhere, and it was maybe 10 degrees in mid winter, i was only wearing a tee shirt too.. the cops told me thier not a taxi and wouldn't even let me sit in thier car to stay warm or drive me to a gas station. Luckly this was a time where cell phones where more common and i had one to use, so they just left me on the side of the highway at 2am without a care if i found a ride or anyhting.

[@hermesten1000]

And they reveled in it, laughed all the way back to the station, then got everyone else laughing when they told the story.

[@ritadyer9295]

That’s just cruel.

[@deanjones2525]

You don't even need to be a police officer to know that you don't leave children by the side of the road, by themselves, without adult supervision, at any time of the day, much more at about midnight.

[@cobracommander9138]

Regular citizens would get charged with child endangerment if they did that. But police are sovereign citizens and the laws don't apply to them.

[@kenwilson6271]

you do have to be a police officer to get away with it. A Crime if your the public. They will investigate themselves and find they never do anything wrong.

[@uzlonewolf]

What do you expect from the group who handcuffs women and places them in the back of cars parked on train tracks? Or drives around barricades to drive through water that is clearly deeper than their van is tall, drowning the people locked in the back?

[@deanjones2525]

@@uzlonewolf I remember this.

[@echomande4395]

Those police officers should be fired and permanently banned from any law enforcement or security work.

[@jeremyweems4916]

They'll be promoted.

[@jamescouture775]

They should be in prison.

[@rumakingthatup]

Each officer should be charged with child endangerment and face a jury

[@misshippi971]

The level of incompetence is astounding. The judgement of these officers has to be questioned. We have to do better than this.

[@douginorlando6260]

I’m waiting to hear the bad cop’s excuse … “I tased him for claiming I was endangering his children, when he was the one who abandoned them”

[@edt6290]

I think there are a couple cops that need to be charged with child endangerment.

[@K2mtp]

My and an ex girlfriend were arrested in NJ for weed and weapons possession (blackjack). We had two chihuahuas in the car. They made her follow one of the cars to the station and I was in the back of the car behind her. The booked us and released us because they didn't know what to do with the dogs. Unbelievable that these pigs could leave children in the car.

[@luciaconn6788]

A Tow-truck driver crammed impoundment victims in his cab, wouldn't leave them by the side of the road. Happened to my family.

[@SuperSayinSolidSnek]

A warrant for insurance as well. Any cop with half a brain and a tenth of a heart would cite the guy and let him take the kids home. Hell, follow him and arrest him at home if it's that important.

[@godsamongmen8003]

If you find this unbelievable, then you haven't seen half of what cops can and will do.

[@gregGould]

I saw a case on TV years ago where the man was arrested with his 15 year old Chihuahua in the car. The police officer refused to allow the guy to call someone to come get the dog. The officer also refused to call someone in the guy's family on his behalf so that someone could get the dog. The tow truck driver removed the elderly Chihuahua and left it on the side of the road and then towed the car to the impound lot. When the family got his phone call from the jail they rushed to the area expecting to find the car with their dog inside. Instead they found their beloved pet of 15 years splattered all over the roadway, extremely dead. They were told that a dog is just property and they could only sue for the replacement value of getting another Chihuahua. Needless to say they were heartbroken and disgusted with the authorities.

[@calamity0.o]

​​@@gregGouldThe tow truck driver must hate dogs to remove property from a vehicle like that. Dog is property and tow guy technically stole it from vehicle. I don't view as property but, legal terms

[@g.oxford]

When they arrested the father they then had temporary custody of the children... and they neglected the children. The officers involved should be arrested for child neglect. IMHO

[@iuse9646]

Completely agreed. They may not have directly taken custody, but by removing the person that had custody they were the only ones responsible at that point for the well being of the children.

[@danieldole9423]

Sounds like a good basis for legal action against them.

[@hermenutic]

It seems to me that if anyone else had abandoned 4 minor children in the middle of the night on the side of a highway there would be child endangerment charges forthcoming.

[@glintinggold]

...IN a car with the engine running, WITH the doors open...

[@hermenutic]

@@glintinggold Go figure.

[@glintinggold]

The fact that the cop who tased the man also left the kids in that precarious situation means he has zero judgment and should never have been hired as a cop in the first place, and should be immediately fired.

[@rick3090]

Im sure it was mentioned already , but this police force in Missouri has been under scrutiny before when the chief of police was caught drunk driving.

[@gonefishing8347]

I would love to see a follow up to this story.

[@amusedBYfools]

Yeah, sounds like a case for the MO Supreme Court.

[@charlesjames1442]

“We have policies!” “Terrific. Got anyone that enforces them?”

[@bpogorman6]

The one thing I have learned about police psychology is that “There is us and there is them.” Everything else can be explained by that.

[@jimlasswell4491]

"No, we don't have quotas but a certain amount of various interactions with the public are expected in that time period."

[@ColdRunnerGWN]

I remember a buddy of mine who is a cop that told me they didn't have quotas, but how are you supposed to prove you're doing your job if you don't issue a certain number of tickets? So a non-quota quota.

[@glintinggold]

Weasel words from weasels.

[@halfnelson6115]

How does that kind of incompetence get past the screening? Smdh.

[@idrathernot_2]

What do you mean? Cops intentionally filter to keep recruits below a certain IQ threshold.

[@bartsanders1553]

First, you get incopetent screening...

[@BeyondPC]

It's an unspoken job requirement.

[@SiriusMined]

It's not a bug it's a feature. It's not bad apples, the roots of the tree are rotten

[@Aging_Geek]

not needing high school diploma and weeks long police training.

[@sethklemba]

Now they will charge the father with child endangerment. The same way when they kill your friend because you did something. You get charged with the murder.

[@bartsanders1553]

Well, don't be in places where things happen. Or whatever blind ridiculous excuse works.

[@niterocketnick5963]

Agreed. Also the family can sue the city for Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress now. We just need everyone to understand that the city has to be sued because you cant file criminal charges and get the gov to do the work for you like a cop can file false charges and get the gov to do the rest of the work for him. Its insanely unfair and I think the issue is that the greater majority does not understand this reality, if they did, we would see cops and citys get sued for heart stopping amounts. We are being used by these thugs as material to manipulate. We are used to create the illusion that they are working. When the criminal cops have the driver charged and held for court, at the trial, it would be inadmissible evidence that the children were left on the road at the criminal trial and the cops are exploiting this fact. The cops will also get credit for the arrest. There are early warning systems to catch bad cops early but no one monitors them. Again, they just put props in place to fool the public into thinking thhey are being cared for.

[@MeRiaNevaMynd]

​@@niterocketnick5963yes indeed to all you said!

[@jacoby1234ification]

Thank God, somebody was watching those children and did the right thing someone with nefarious purposes could’ve did something to those children that is totally unacceptable. Those officers should be fired in charge and the department should be sued.

[@blue39503]

Imagine the police department trying to explain that Amber alert.

[@GrainneDhub-ll6vw]

​@@blue39503 unless there was a witness or camera footage of the abduction, in most states no Amber alert would be issued. Most states don't issue an Amber alert unless there is information that can lead to the perpetrator of an abduction for pragmatic reasons--if such information is not available, the Amber alert system would be overwhelmed with alerts for children highly unlikely to be found and people would start tuning out the alerts.

[@gregoryfrickey1715]

YUP

[@martinwalker9386]

When I was 44 I asked mother, “When did I sleep in a tent with grandma and grandpa?” Mother asked who had told me about it. I replied that I remembered being put to bed and described how the tent was arranged. I was 10.5 months old. Continuing the discussion I told of another event that mother thought was when I was about 9 months old.

[@bugalaman]

Funny how the department policy really doesn't matter. The moment they arrest him, they become the legal guardian of the kids at that moment. The officers are guilty of Endangering the welfare of a child because they violated the statute that said "Knowingly acts in a manner that creates a substantial risk to the life, body, or health of a child less than seventeen years of age;"

[@GH-cp9wc]

As a father, I am furious that those Officers had so little regard for the welfare and safety of those children.

[@gasparyanga3415]

where the children black?

[@CaryInVictoria]

"We'll see what happens. I doubt that much will happen". It's the latter sentence that largely explains why bad policing is so widespread and why that's not likely to change anytime soon.

[@underground8205]

Individuals like these need to be prosecuted for child neglect

[@fk319fk]

The worst part about this is the children are going to have a negative opinion of the police for a very long time.

[@dylanwillyams]

@@WhiteG60they know this. It makes them more money.

[@WDA94]

Y'know, I'm all for trust being restored between police and the public, but maybe the police should actually work on being more trustworthy instead of abusing their power constantly?

[@mrbob4u495]

@@WhiteG60 What innocent people? If you are talking Gaza, do you recall those same people dancing in the streets in joy over the 9/11 situation. Do better.

[@annettespradlin4945]

They aren't trained for restoring trust. They are just gangsters with badges. They don't care. They aren't taught to interact with the citizens anymore.

[@petermastenbroek7719]

Quite likely for ever, which I would completely understand.

[@frankdeboer1347]

Something like this happened to me when I was a kid, but probably worse. My older brother was driving a tractor with a self-loading hay wagon behind it down the busiest road in my hometown with me and two friends riding on the loaded wagon when he got stopped. The policeman suspected him of underage driving and took him in the police car so he could take him home and get my dad to drive it. What's worse is that he left it in the middle of the road with cars from both sides trying to get by. I couldn't have been older than 11 and I had to get off the wagon and drive the tractor and wagon off the road into someone's driveway.

[@AliciaGuitar]

That is peak irony

[@noirchien2622]

Lmfao😂😂 I just imagined a small child trying to properly park a tractor and wagon safely. In addition having the responsibility of making sure nothing happened to yourself and the two other passengers. How is it possible that an 11 year old child has more common sense than a police officer. That’s beyond ironic.

[@patriot6285]

I have watched a lot of these videos, just when you think it cannot get worse, then a video like this pops up. I can only shake my head. Those cops actions were criminal, AND they should be charged with child endangerment.

[@haxonprime1243]

This is not totally surprising honestly. There are a lot of departments out there that ONLY care about arrests. They don't care about public safety. Things need to start changing, and these corrupt and disorderly departments need to be investigated and fined out the ass for their negligence. In some cases there are current officers that need to lose their badges. The legal system in the US is freaking abysmal and it's more wide spread then people know.

[@sammerjay8128]

Quotas and MADD Awards seem to be the only focus of officers at this point.

[@juliatillman5402]

This is outrageous! WTH!!

[@DiscussionsWithEkmel]

From watching Civil Rights videos, it is my understanding he will have a lawsuit for excessive force if he was tased while in handcuffs. It is considered unreasonable to use force against anyone who is already in handcuffs because they can no longer pose a danger to the arresting officer.

[@saltzmann1]

That is 4 counts of child endangerment by one law enforcement officer. Think about it, what would a jury trial have to say about this abandonment?

[@SciHeartJourney]

I don't have eidetic memory, but some of my memories from childhood are INDELIBLE. I'm 57 today and CLEARLY recall this time my uncle Peter STOLE my Mom's car, leaving us stranded at a public park. I was only THREE and I remember my OWN ANGER at him.🖕😡🖕. I remember the LONG walk home. My Mom had to carry my baby sister and my brother was less than 2. I made myself forget that, but I've just been reminded of this. Keep THIS in mind the next time you wonder if kids forget 💩. No, we don't! 😠

[@TheCaptainmojo1973]

Steve is a lot more diplomatic with his criticism of modern police than I am. I’ve dealt with some recently and I’m surprised they can tie their own shoes much less pass the basic certification testing. Smh.

[@michaelwilkening8542]

He walks a fine line because he deals with prosecutors and police all the time during his regular job.

[@amusedBYfools]

​@@michaelwilkening8542um I thought he dealt with lemon law claims.

[@MostlyHarmless86]

@@robertd7073 When I joined the USAF, I was told that I scored high enough to have any job in the Air Force, except for cop, because I scored too high.

[@arinerm1331]

@@robertd7073 You are absolutely correct about this, and as a matter of fact it is now unlawful to screen applicants for any job in the U.S. by using an IQ test, because an applicant who was refused employment based on an IQ test sued, and the appeals went all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court. His lawsuit was based on his rejection for a cop job because he'd scored too HIGH.

[@ElainCorrine]

@@MostlyHarmless86 I scored 100% on all tests from all 4 branches. The recruiters asked me if I was some kind of genius or something. I was like, um, no.... the tests were not even challenging. They wanted me to sign up that very day. I couldn't as I had other things to do (doctors appointment) that day, and those other things resulted in me being medically unable to enlist. Totally fried my hopes of becoming a Starlifter pilot.

[@genoinjian7729]

Each officer needs to be charged with child abandonment & child abuse

[@annanderson7]

I live in Missouri, this seems criminal. But we know nothing will happen.

[@stever197037]

What criminal charge would a parent get for leaving kids like that? Give the cops the same sentence.

[@peoplez129]

Cops aren't even allowed to leave vehicles unattended, let alone kids in vehicles. There is no reason to be in such a hurry to take someone to jail that you literally make a parent abandon their children. Even if the parent had committed murder, you wouldn't leave those kids in the car by themselves, let alone if the parent was wanted for a minor crime.

[@nednobody3253]

With all the Insanity going on now days this is beyond belief especially at that time of night. Are there no longer any stadards to be a Cop?

[@CrankyBeach]

Some years ago a disabled veteran friend of mine in Wisconsin was pulled over late at night for, if I recall correctly, a burned out taillight bulb. She was given a fix-it ticket and ordered NOT to continue driving, and the officer refused to take her home. Really? A disabled female was supposed to walk several miles alone on the side of a road? Or sit in the car and wait for daylight, when the taillight wouldn't be needed? I don't remember exactly how this story ended, but I think she just waited until the cop was well away, and then drove herself the rest of the way home without incident. About 40 years ago I was pulled over for having a headlight out. The officer issued me a fix-it ticket, told me what the procedures were, and sent me on my way.

[@ralphmtsu]

Is it really necessary to issue a ticket for a mechanical situation. Common sense thing is to say "Hey buddy, your tail light is out." No need for the red tape. So sick of cops abusing their authority. Save it for real criminals.

[@OmniscientWarrior]

So many forget laws are to be enforced by intent not letter. I had a headlight out and the cop gave me a warning. I made it clear that I was turning back around to get it replaced instead of heading home. No issues from that. That's how it should be in most cases.

[@uzlonewolf]

@@ralphmtsu Yes. More than a few people would never get it fixed otherwise, especially a tailight where they can't directly see how it affects them. Over the years I've seen many cars with 2 if not all 3 brake lights out.

[@diannee2685]

@@ralphmtsu the cops are the real criminals;)

[@RayF6126]

In VT especially with computers they hand you a ticket that they tell you to either hand to the mechanic if you use one to fix the tail light or call in to report it fixed if you do yourself within 72 hours. Not sure what happens if you don't because at the time I lived in my car so having it in functional order was an absolute necessity.

[@richardtaylor5670]

That cop should be put in jail for this