Steven, Solomon, Isaac, John & Miriam Anderson Take Heed! Caution from a brother in Christ.

[@sharonlchambers3555]

The four oldest of the Anderson children are not speaking out just to cause trouble for their abusive parents. They are deeply concerned about their siblings who are still at home and in grave danger.

[@Phearless7485]

@@sharonlchambers3555 Where do you get that? The Andersons have 12 kids, so far as we know, none are dead. Sure all four elders are saying a similar story, and maybe it is true, but where do you get your authority for abuse? King Solomon said beat thy child with a rod, fear not for he shall NOT die. Is God a liar and are you wiser than Solomon? There is no indication of grave danger, 12 living, healthy kids. Here is what we know, there is a girl that does not want to have to leave her new boyfriend. A son that said he was fine and had a generally happy life, just wanted people to know the truth. Two others that are also whining because their parents hurt their little tootsies, spanked them with a cord, and said mean things. I did the same stuff to try and avoid my dad’s punishments, including run away at 17. All part of the process. You’d think at least one Christian in the world would care what God has to say more than the liberal world they grew up in.

[@sharonlchambers3555]

@@Phearless7485 I am very sorry to hear that you were physically abused as a child. You, however, should not overlook the abuses of other children based on the fact that you survived. Gross, horrendous physical, mental, and psychological abuses have been described by all four of the oldest children. They have clearly stated their concerns for the children remaining at home in an unsafe, highly detrimental environment. Your disparaging remarks concerning Miriam are especially egregious, as absolutely no information has come to light indicating any moral compromise on her part. You should carefully consider your words before speaking.

[@Phearless7485]

@@sharonlchambers3555 Nothing has come to light indicating any charges against Anderson, not Biblically. I didn’t ever say Andersons daughter did anything bad with the man, just that she probably didn’t want to leave him out of state. Who would. Why be so dramatic woman. Anderson sins, so do we. Perhaps you are not a parent? Parents make mistakes, husbands make mistakes. Large household’s must be more strict because 12 unruly kids would be unbearable. So his faults are different than ours. Other men are drunkards. Others are lazy deadbeats. Others abandon their kids all-together. Others sexually abuse. Some hurt emotionally. Some hurt physically. Among those lists his “abuse” is near the bottom. Show me a parent that has no sin, and I’ll show you a liar, yourself. You people like this stuff because you love human suffering and you love being able to say, “I am better than that man”. You’re not, none of are. We’re all guilty of the blood of Jesus Christ, so the next time you condemn a human for “abuse” remember, you have committed worse sins, such as murder in your heart. The Bible says you’ve committed witchcraft, rebellion. I hope God judges you every single day as harshly as you have Anderson until you repent of your pride. I’m so sick of fake Christians, so holy and so pure you think you are. You’re not pure, Jesus had to come to save you too. Your standards come from this wicked world, you don’t care what the Bible says.

[@sharonlchambers3555]

@@Phearless7485 You do attempt to speak big, and you just come off as offensive. Your misogyny is loud and clear. You attempt to deflect by shouting that others are sinners, and sinners to a greater degree than whatever goalpost you wish to tout. Among your random musings, you have chosen to accuse that I have “committed murder in my heart.” I can assure you, I have not. I have not spoken in hatred and I have not thought in hatred. I hold no murderous thoughts or intentions. You seem to have assigned yourself a high level of personal Bible study and knowledge. I would warn you against assuming that you know more than anyone else with whom you are communicating. The fact that none of the Anderson children have died at the hands of their abusers in not way implies that horrendous abuses have not occurred. I caution you in your defense of these abusers, lest you share in having blood on your hands.

[@Phearless7485]

@@sharonlchambers3555 I’ve had enough of dealing with you brawling women. Go make your husband miserable, if you haven’t already sent him running. You didn’t even read what I said, so you’re illiterate and brawling. Last time I am going to PROVE you wrong. Read what I said again, I said YOU were elevating yourself and judging Anderson, when my ENTIRE point was that NONE of us can judge, we’re all sinners complicit in the death of Jesus Christ. The Bible says hating a person without a cause is murder… Bible illiterate brawler. You’ve done that, by Gods standard, which is the point Jesus was making when he said it. Can’t win an argument with a woman in this “feminist” world, most women aren’t humble or smart enough to admit when they’ve lost (maybe both in your case?). Women just think if they argue forever, they win. Go away. Come back when you can read and trust Gods word more than your own deceitful and desperately wicked heart. Don’t say that is a false accusation either, it is also a specific Bible quote.

[@RoseAngelHalbreich]

There is a fine line between discipline and abuse. I was abused by my Son. He passed now and I loved him. Child abuse is wrong. God will judge us all.

[@Phearless7485]

@@RoseAngelHalbreich You don’t find the word abuse in the Bible. Y’all just make it up because you think you’re more righteous than other people. You don’t call it abuse when both parents work so much they completely neglect their children. You don’t call it abuse when mom and dad divorce and destroy their childhood. You only call it abuse when it is something you don’t do, so you can look down your nose at other people and tell yourself “at least I am not that.” I don’t “abuse” my children, nor do I exercise “spousal discipline”, but I also don’t cast MY OWN judgments on other people, I let God make make the judgment, and God is silent on the issue. As far as your son, sounds to me like you didn’t use your opportunity to raise your child right. I always find it weird when parents talk about how bad their kids are/were. You’re the one charged by God with the responsibility of raising them up in the way they should go. It’s like baking a cake and then blaming the cake because it didn’t taste good.

[@AnthonyAV-ul6kq]

I believe they tried to avoid CPS. Isaac mentions several times when he's gone to pastors, church members etc... Clint tried to keep Miriam safe by allowing her to stay. I think they all tried to bring it up to Steve. But he's SOOOOOO proud that he can't humble himself at all. As far as giving kids adversity, I do agree. We need to be tough on them at times. I do want to say, there does need to be a balance. Fathers (and mothers) need to be open and honest when they make mistakes and blow up. It shows kids that making mistakes is ok, but you need to humble yourself.

[@Phearless7485]

@@AnthonyAV-ul6kq Yes I think I somewhat hit on this, admit that you’re human and make mistakes. Most parents don’t do this, they overreact and then blame it on the other person; which happens, but then you need to acknowledge that it happened/happens. Hypocrisy is a killer of families.

[@stst77]

I’m not so sure of that. Miriam and John both said they want CPS to take the children. Solomon is the most level headed about the situation of the 4 and he said he disagrees with his younger siblings but he’s a little older so he is probably thinking this out better. Solomon also didn’t want to make a video to air family laundry but after 3 siblings, his father, and uncle have all gone public he said he felt like he had to say something. Solomon tells the good but also affirms the bad. John and Miriam just give an image of hell. Issac admits his dad isn’t all bad but he thinks his dad should be beat up which shows his maturity. And the two youngest think their dad should be in prison and the younger siblings in foster care. I agree with this video that foster care should be avoided at all costs but because of Miriam and John, it might be too late. I feel VERY sorry for the younger children if they end up in foster care. With 8 kids one might get good foster parents but the likelihood is very high of one or more coming out way worse damaged than staying where they are.

[@faithfulwordchristbaptist]

I surely wish that this wisdom reached the family. Maintaining hard lines won’t help but tear up the family.

[@ANGELGIRL344]

Same here, i believe in Jesus Christ, he is my savior, its hard to really trust any preacher at this time. I just believe upon the lord jesus christ 🙏 🙌 ❤️ ✨️

[@Phearless7485]

@@ANGELGIRL344 Amen. Jesus talks about when he comes that he will destroy the miserable pastors who feed themselves and not his sheep. The fact he mentions that is proof that it will be pervasive at some time. Today these “pastors” seem to exist entirely for themselves. Add to what you said prayer and thanksgiving, make sure you are reading/listening to the word as often as you are willing and you will do well. I think church is one of the worst places a Christian can go in today’s age, unless you are one of the very few blessed with a true pastor.

[@ANGELGIRL344]

@Phearless7485 thank you amen 🙏 🙌 ❤️

[@HeidiRobinson-ft7vl]

Thank you for this video.

[@oreocarlton3343]

I cant relate with people who havent experienced adversity but noone should seek it, with just being real it will come

[@Phearless7485]

@@oreocarlton3343 Sounds like a dime-store novel quote. None should seek it? Okay, well if you want to get good at basketball, do you play against the worst or the best? Adversity makes you stronger. If you want to get better at something, seek the most adversity you can. Even adversity thrust upon you makes you stronger, but is obviously not fun in its time. I am not saying you should maximize the adversity you thrust upon people such as your children, but I am saying they need adversity. We are all human, we all make mistakes, we all overreact and fail our loved ones in different ways. I think people are too unrealistic nowadays, they pretend they are perfect and are quick to condemn others for not being so. Physical “abuse”, mental “abuse”, neglect, indifference, drunkenness, etc… all these are faults.

[@oreocarlton3343]

@@Phearless7485 no wisdom will come from choosing public schools if you have a choice to homeschooling, that was my point. You'll face adversity either way if you love your life honestly

[@Phearless7485]

@@oreocarlton3343 Where does that come from? Who said public schools or homeschooled? I would never tell anyone to pick public school. Tribulation and persecution, thats what the Bible says, these are adversity, not pleasant in the time, but brings fruit in the end. The whole point was if you come out of the other end alive, healthy, with a good career, and most importantly SAVED… there is no point in complaining about the trip. We need the adversity as much or more than we need the good times. The whole point I was trying to explain is that we should count all these as blessings, especially if we have little to no permanent damage to carry through life.

[@oreocarlton3343]

@@Phearless7485 I was under impression you suggested people to enroll kids in public schools to experience "real life" and build character with adversity, my lapsus.

[@Phearless7485]

@@oreocarlton3343 No, not at all. I said for me, knowing my kids would not experience the adversity of public schools and the only adversity they face will be in my house, I hold back less intentionally. I wan’t them to know they’re adored, but also to have thick skin, good character, and a sound mind.

[@soulh4838]

It's up to the accusers to produce physical evidence of the "abuse." When push comes to shove, if there's no concrete proof to go with those accusations, the ones that'll do time in jail will be them, for committing perjury. Remember, we are innocent until PROVEN guilty!! No concrete proof = not true! Why didn't they just go straight to the authorities instead of doing all these interviews on KZbin? Because it'd be throw out for lack of proof! They say that extreme abuse is going on? Well, where's their proof?? All I see is accusations with zero evidence.

[@Phearless7485]

@@soulh4838 Also the Bible is against getting the world involved in judgment. The world defines most everything the Bible teaches as something evil: “abuse”, “bigotry”, “sexism”, “homophobia” (an absurd term), the list goes on. We do have Bible saying to beat your child with a rod to deliver his soul from hell, and that whosoever does NOT do so, hates their child. The Bible does not define the rod. Is it 3/4 inch oak? 2” pine? 3/8” willow? Electrical cord? Solomon even says, fear not, for they shall not die. Has any Anderson kid died? If that has happened, make that clear. But if one simply defines their correction as “abuse”, that isn’t clear. Some people believe it is “abuse” to teach kids the Bible. Some think it is “abuse” not to “gender” affirm. Hence why we shouldn’t let the world anywhere near us in judgment, they can’t tell the difference between male and female… but their who these people want judging? Absurd.

[@soulh4838]

@@Phearless7485 I agree. I also am a mom with 3 kids, 19, 15, and 11. Discipline is very important, but the way those Anderson kids are describing it in their home is over-the-top exaggeration and so extreme that there's no way that they would have no scars! With that kind of "abuse," there HAS TO BE scars everywhere! Found this this morning and commented about it in another post: Guys, these haters are "now writing" out Miriam's testimony so people can read it! It was so stupid and over-the-top, I don't know how people believe it without them producing pictures or videos of the scars that this extreme kind of "abuse" would leave!! Like, according to her testimony, Ms Anderson would have scars on her face and arms with all the cuts from the scissors "violently" thrown at her! Pastor Steven Anderson and his family would do all kinds of outings with his kids all year, even going on camping trips! You'd think all these people that distanced themselves would have noticed if all this BS was true!! This is just a screenshot of the comments on this post! facebook.com/share/p/uYGLizApf2QmVK24/ Of course, I can't post pictures here, but clicking on the link will take you to the post I'm talking about to see those comments.

[@chriss1686]

What happened to 2 or 3 witnesses? 🤔

[@soulh4838]

@@chriss1686 You can have 2, 3, etc witnesses that are lying! Remember what happened to Naboth, or even our Lord Jesus Christ?!? Witnesses + concrete physical evidence (like, maybe pictures of the scars from the "abuse", broken nose, broken bones, broken teeth, hospital records of hospitalizations, because the type of "abuse" being described is so bad that it would require it!!) Use your brain, not your emotions!!

[@Phearless7485]

@ I understand but it’s not fool proof, not even in the Bible. Many times in the Bible they got multiple witnesses to falsely testify. Jezebel did it, they did it to Jesus… I am speaking practically, I am not on anyones side. Just trying to make a rational judgment without respect of persons.

[@Oncesavedalwayssaved1611]

Amen on the one and only real gospel of your (and my) salvation. All Jesus. Not of my works because I’d probably boast about it.

[@StephenPsaltere]

Fifty minute preamble, yet after fifty minutes never to really address the child molestation and abuse in the "Faithful Word" home. The video's conclusion? Since the four older ones aren't outright dead, and even though one of the boys still in the home is now being hit on the head so often he's exhibiting symptoms of brain damage, it's all 'OK', maybe Steven Lee Anderson should try a little evangelisation for a while. Interestingly enough, BornOutOfSeason hasn't even bothered to watch any of Jordan's videos because he judges Jordan a piece of 's**t'. Despite the mini-doctrinal lesson on old versus new man - Jordan not included of course - BornOutOfSeason's video is a very disappointing video. Going forward? To all intents and purposes, the video concludes the Anderson BSDM practising child molesters should just have a quick meeting with the kids (maybe with a sycophant from the "church" in attendance), then sweep it under the rug lest what goes on comes to the light. One Christian to another, I'm very disappointed. Smarten up. Really listen. Grow a pair. In Jesus' name.

[@Phearless7485]

@@StephenPsaltere Lol, you’re too smart for me. Everything is based on the word of one or more kids. Now a 17 year old girl can give a medical diagnosis? Your judgment comes from yourself, from your own heart, it means nothing. I just say what the Bible has to say about it. Molestation? Where do you get that. You know what that means? Sexual assault or abuse of a person, especially a child. Every child expressly said none of that happened. Jordon? The trans? Is that Jordon? No, the Bible judges him as having a reprobate mind and being an abomination, so I believe the Bible. Old Verses New? What’s your point. I don’t believe you are a Christian, because I would think as a Christian you’d listen to the Bible and not men, because all men are LIARS, even the ones who say things against people you hate. Now you show me ONE place where the Bible condemns “spanking feet, conking heads, beating with a cord, etc…” All your judgments come from the world, but then you say, I’m a fellow Christian.” You just label all “discipline” as abuse and that gives you authority to judge. Well, why do I label every time you look at a woman as rape, then just condemn you for being a rapist. Makes a lot of sense don’t it. BDSM? The Bible says a bedroom remains undefiled between a man and his wife, bet you didn’t know that. So what if they do like beating each other, who cares, the Bible does not say anything against it. You’re against Anderson’s BDSM but you’re for Jordon, an open sodomite which Gods says should be killed for his Sodomy? Couldn’t be any more anti Bible. Christian? Pff, you’re a liar. What did Solomon say in the Bible about discipline? Hmm? Do you even know? Let’s not forget, discipline comes from transgression? God killed a man for trying to keep the ark from falling, did you know about that? Perhaps you can judge God some too, since you’re so righteous. Again, you’re just non-Christian who calls himself a Christian because he does not read the Bible or know what a Christian even is. You’re a man who knows NOTHING about the Bible, so you can happily call yourself a Christian. Everything you learn you learn by tradition from preachers or the world, or you make it up from your own heart. Well I’ve read the Bible hundreds of times… I know what it says about people like Jordon. I know how much authority God gives the parents, and how little he gives us over others peoples families. Did you know God set forth a process by which a parent can stone their child to death in the Old Testament? Probably not. Again? You’re not Christian, least you don’t say anything Christian at all. Not ONE of any of you people judging this matter seems to have ever looked at the Bible. We’ll see what happens. Go and learn what a Christian is and believes, then come back and run your mouth. Bring back Bible though if you want me to respect ANY judgment you make.

[@StephenPsaltere]

@@Phearless7485 Wow. 'Such a long and extensive ad hominem, yet so full of false assumptions. As a general rule in comments, the longer and more extensive the ad hominem (and the less the subject at hand), the more I've hit the nail on the head, or pretty bloody near so! Good-bye.

[@Phearless7485]

@@StephenPsaltere Ad hominem is when I attack you and AVOID your argument. Are you mentally retarded? I fully attacked your argument, didn’t avoid it not one bit. So you have no Bible expertise, no logic expertise, hell, you don’t seem mentally qualified to argue on any front at all. You just don’t like that I expose your nonsense so you’re grasping at straws trying to save face… to yourself. Just go away.

[@beckypetersen2680]

I know. I suspect Solomon's mild stuttering is a result of this abuse.

[@olich23]

​@@Phearless7485God bless you for this answer!

[@stst77]

I agree that a LOT of people are sending them in the wrong direction. A lot of people are encouraging them in involving CPS and pressing criminal charges against their parents. Solomon has said he doesn’t agree with that. Miriam and John do agree with that but they are the youngest and don’t know what they are talking about. If i were 17 I might agree with it too, but I’m older and wiser to know CPS can be the worst thing to happen to them. Apparently Steven was involuntarily committed to an insane asylum 2 days ago so who did that? I can say this, Steven may be mean and wrong but I don’t believe he is insane at all. People may be well meaning but as the saying goes “good intentions lead to hell”. Whoever had him committed to an insane asylum doesn’t realize how this will impact all the little children in the home especially when according to all 4 oldest children he is the most stable of the 2 parents. According to the 4 children it’s the mom who “90% of the time is angry and abusive “, while dad is pretty chill 90% of the time but when he blows his top, he goes ballistic. So 8 children are going to be left with the most abusive, unstable parent and with the stress of dad being in an insane asylum, she might really be difficult to live with. And what will this experience do to dad? And how will it traumatize the children if they saw dad being taken away in a straight jacket? All their lives might really get uprooted now. If things were bad, they are probably only going to get worse. I feel sorry for the children.

[@Phearless7485]

@@stst77 Didn’t know that about an insane asylum. They are going to find out; probably too late. Seems to be an epidemic of people who would rather find out too late than adhere to sound doctrine. Foolish world.

[@soulh4838]

​@@Phearless7485 My Trip to the Nuthouse kzbin.info/www/bejne/jX-ZgZ58g5eCiNUsi=RZblH-xg3I3wTqP_

[@jbrendel98]

Also, there is more than one way of interpreting the bible. The problem people face when trying to interpret it correctly is that they miss much of the cultural context the bible was written in. Obviously the people in biblical times couldn't spell out their entire culture, so in order for people to understand the one meaning, they kinda had to be there at the time it was written.

[@Phearless7485]

@@jbrendel98 That is incorrect. The Bible says the scriptures are of NO private interpretation. The Bible says we should all speak the SAME thing with perfect unity. That we should all be of ONE mind and ONE doctrine. You are lying to yourself and anyone else reading as an excuse to keep division in the body of Christ. What you call “cultural context” the Bible calls “Jewish Fables” which turn from the truth. The Bible means what it says, trying to put yourself in the “cultural context” creates an appeal to authority logical fallacy. Now we MUST trust the “experts” to understand the cultural context. You’re just wholly wrong. God wrote the Bible for ALL generations. He wants us who are saved to know and understand it. Problem is, people love darkness rather than light. Having private interpretations is profitable. But Paul said that it should NOT be so that every man hath an interpretation. If you reject the Bible, just get off the fence and reject it wholly; God would have more respect for you, at least then you’re honest. I believe the Bible, every word. And where the human side of me can say, hmm, that sounds right, how can we know the “cultural context”, the person of me that has read the Bible knows that all men are liars and lie in wait with cunning deceptions. The only way to ensure I don’t buy any lie, is to not take a single step away from the text.

[@jbrendel98]

@ my point is if two people claim to be speaking accurate biblical truth about a modern day situation quoting two different scriptures then you can’t determine who’s right if both claim to be born again believers

[@jbrendel98]

@ my point is if two people claim to be speaking accurate biblical truth about a modern day situation quoting two different scriptures then you can’t determine who’s right if both claim to be born again believers

[@Phearless7485]

@@jbrendel98 Yes you can, what are you talking about? If the Bible word for word says what they say, then they are correct. If the Bible does not explicitly say the same thing they say, then it is likely they are both wrong and using their own tongues while saying “he saith.” God preached hard against people who do that. We can only say God said what God actually said. If God didn’t explicitly say something on a subject, then people are allowed to make their own judgment on it and should NOT be judged of another mans conscience… as scripture says. People need to start reading the Bible… and then reading it again. There are a lot of words in there and likely a real answer to ANY question, “modern” or not… as the Bible says, modernity is an illusion as there is NOTHING NEW under the sun.

[@jbrendel98]

@like for example, Steven Anderson argues that faith alone is salvation, quoting many passages that say that. Isaiah Saldivar says it is only the first step, I believe, mainly referencing when Jesus says not all those who call upon his name shall be saved but those who do the will of his father. Aside from that, there are many situations today that have conflicting moral standpoints that can only rely on vague passages being written, in which you can argue all day which passage is more applied to a situation, if there are only two options. For example, Anderson might argue for the case of wife beating, while there is no specific bible verse against it, it can be argued that the man is the head of the house and so his authority is God's authority to her and whoever God loveth he chasteneth and scourgeth (because husbands love your wives) and the majority would use phrases like husbands honor your wives as the weaker vessel to argue against wife beating, but even that is not enough specific evidence to say God condemns wife beating if it doesn't permanently traumatize her physically bit just scares her into submission. I obviously believe it is wrong to beat your wife, but I have yet to see a pastor who has talked about this issue be able to fully disprove it from a biblical standpoint without a personal moral bias. The point is with vague references to scripture, as scripture doesn't reference every situation one will encounter in life, it is difficult to determine what scripture will actually say about every situation, which leaves room for personal moral bias.

[@FamilyFarmAdventureLoveyah]

Their backs are smooth as babies. No evidence or marks of electrical cords hitting it from head to toe. The kids are healthy, confident, articulate, smart, sociable, outgoing, not a picture of abuse children. Abuse children are timid, shy, afraid of people, have scars and bruises. Child abuse is a crime and neighbors can report their neighbors if they see children abused. But for 17 years they were l8ving in their parent's house, nobody reported their parents for child abuse. The police and cps agents found nothing. Do you think CPS and tempe police department are part of pastor anderson's church that's why they do nothing?

[@Phearless7485]

@@FamilyFarmAdventureLoveyah I’ve not advocated that it is abuse, because scripturally speaking I don’t see abuse. Solomon said to beat your child with a rod without fear, because they will not die. The mosaic law highlighted a process where parents could have their children stoned to death. I think you and I are saying pretty much the same thing, save that I have said these kids need to have confronted their dad specifically, maybe in the presence of witnesses or maybe even the church; but to bring it to the world is a mistake, as the Bible says. Not to bring a brother to law in the world. Abuse is just a term without meaning, an ambiguous word meaning something different to everyone. Some people say gendering them correctly is abuse, you have to call them what they aren’t. Abuse like racism and every other buzzword today has no meaning anymore.

[@FamilyFarmAdventureLoveyah]

It is pure dishonoring their father and their mother and these other pastors are partaking the slander and siding with the dishonoring of parents. Other kids will learn to dishonor and slander their parents and make lies against their parents and report them to the police and cause them to be put to death just as the Bible had warned. Children rising up against their parents and pastors defending and siding them.

[@Phearless7485]

@@FamilyFarmAdventureLoveyah Agreed. I am not unreasonable though, I know that as parents we also do not always do right by our kids. This of course is NOT a justification for a child to disrespect his/her parents, but it definitely does not help the situation. Nothing but bad will come of what these kids are doing, but they talk like they are doing nothing but good; they’ll find out soon enough. I think the biggest tale-tale is that the BULK of the comments are people speaking well of them, supporting them, praising them, etc… Very concerning, the Bible cautions to BEWARE when all men speak well of you. Anderson has long since had a pride and anger problem, I have seen his open wickedness many times, watched him break up churches and destroy pastors with blatant lies, I think he very much needs a pride check, and maybe God is using this situation to accomplish that. These people though are in here making their judgments but are not using the scriptures, they are just using their own tongues then acting as if it was God that said it.

[@jbrendel98]

Your rant on how all psychologists do no good for the world will not become the authoritative word. There are plenty of people, like myself, who was diagnosed autistic at age three, who aren’t faking being autistic. Without my diagnosis and childhood treatment, I would much likely be further behind in my cognitive development than I am now. That’s just an ignorant and false statement.

[@Phearless7485]

@@jbrendel98 Lol, your rant about my rant is not an authoritative statement. “Oh, I have autism,” be quiet. You can speak, and argue with me, so stop being a baby and control yourself. If your argument is that your brain is stronger than your will, then my argument is that you are weak… by your own argument. A man who can think cogently has no excuse for what he does. This type of thinking is leading to everyone making excuses and no one having accountability. All of us humans deal with the consequences of humanity, you’re just the only ones looking for excuses, because you’re afraid of accountability. Grow up. You call me ignorant while you argue that you don’t have control over your own mind? Braindead. I was diagnosed ADHD and Autistic… but even as a child I was able to use my will to suppress my mind… it’s called self control. It is why most people don’t rape, murder, steal, etc… The lust may enter our minds, but we say, hell no, and we put our minds into the submission of our will. If you can’t control your mind… you’re ignorant and moronic. Not one to judge me. I control myself, like a man should and don’t make excuses… like a man should.

[@StevenAnderson-1611]

Come fight

[@Phearless7485]

@@StevenAnderson-1611 Fight what? I think humility, a soft answer, and forgiveness is the only hope now. If this is you, and I was you, I’d admit my faults to the people who need to hear it, I’d offer a sincere apology and I’d turn things around for the ones that I love. Your adult kids don’t look like they plan to bend, and they younger and less wise. You have a chance to teach them and lead them in an even greater lesson. Be like David, show them how to acknowledge your faults, apologize for them, and do everything you can to make amends. Not condemning your actions because strictly speaking, there is no Bible that condemns the “abuse” you’ve been said to have done. But honestly, do you think fighting will breed anything but more fighting? Have your attempts at regaining control gotten you more control? It is time to try something else, humility. Just trying to tell you what I think has a chance to actually work. Anything else is just going to fuel them that hate you and the Lord, and further divide your family. I hope the Lord sees fit to keep the world at bay and give you and your family a chance to heal and I hope you’re willing to do what it would take because like it or not, you are the common denominator, and the only one that can meaningfully bring healing to all involved, that being your beloved wife and children. Maybe the Lord has allowed this because the Lord wants to humble you because he has something else coming for you, which you need to be humble enough to receive.

[@StevenAnderson-1611]

@@Phearless7485boring. Let’s settle this like men

[@RosesandSuchh]

I never heard of you until these testimonies came out. It's not my place to condemn you. However seeing some of your sermons I will avoid any churches with messages like yours. I hope you can understand your actions have caused harm. Don't threathen someone because they spoke out.

[@Phearless7485]

@@RosesandSuchh I don’t think it is him. Probably just someone pretending to be him.

[@RosesandSuchh]

​@Phearless7485 Probably so. Which is a disturbing aspect in itself. It's probably someone just trying to stir the pot unfortunately.

[@shirleysneddon9573]

God’s righteousness saves those who are willing through the Holy Spirit to be changed. We are not supposed to stay in sinfulness, why would Jesus say, “Go and sin no more”? Through the inviting of the Holy Spirit into our hearts and minds we ask for Him to change us, we will show the fruits. We are changed to be like Jesus in character and deed. Steven Anderson does not display that loving character outwardly, I nor anyone else can know his heart, but there are disturbing displays of prideful tantrums and deeds against the children that he has raised, he must show accountability and willingness to be saved. He raised these children and he as anyone in this earth who profess to be Christian’s and teach others to be like Christ must be different, God tells us to be separate from those who do not know Him. The intents of the heart are revealed from the actions. God requires His people to follow Him, not the other way around. Satan had the same character fall, he believed he was perfect God made him perfect, but he still had and has choice, Lucifer wanted to be worshipped, the creature is not above the Creator. God wants creatures who are obedient to Him, we were made to glorify Him. Anyone with eyes or hearts knows this is not godly behavior. Yes we are all sinners and no one is above anyone else, God explicitly says there are those who will not be in Heaven, not because He doesn’t want them to be, but because they are not willing to be changed, sin and sinners who have made themselves God or those who worship other gods have no need of Heaven and God will not force them to be where they would not want to be. Thats why God tells us to die to self, the flesh is weak and while we are in this world we are not to revel in sin to lead others astray, Heaven will not be like this. Steven Anderson points out faults of others, he cannot judge the heart, he calls people names and has lifted himself up to be something he’s not. The Commandments will stand throughout eternity, that’s why we must throw off the old man those things are passed away and God is knocking at the door of our hearts to let Him in. I pray for this family and all our families that we can be changed to be more like Jesus and quit making sin, God.

[@Phearless7485]

@@shirleysneddon9573 Well Miss Shirley, think about it. You said “Gods righteousness saves those who are willing through the Holy Spirit to be changed.” You made up your own gospel, a false one. The Bible says God saves those who have faith, who believe on him. It does NOT teach a change happens first, that the person no longer sins, etc… Telling people to go and sin no more is NOT doctrine, it is a general commandment, Jesus knows we will still sin, and he said he will still chastise us. I tell my children to go and sin no more, do you think I think they’ll do it? Will I disown them if they sin again? Or will I chastise them? Are you suggesting that you no longer sin in your flesh? The Bible says all unrighteousness is sin. Even the very thought of foolishness is sin. That same Bible says we are unrighteous all the days of our lives, that even our righteousness is filthy rags. We’re not changed to be like Jesus in our bodies, that’s absurd, the change is Spiritual, and WE have to feed that spirit to reep the spirit. Do you wonder the streets having no possessions, healing the sick, raising disciples, dying to save the lost? What a foolish thing to think you were changed to be like Jesus, you’re nothing like Jesus and you know it, no one is. As Christians we all work all of our lives to try and feed the spirit, along the way we fail, we renew our faith and we walk. If we gain in godliness ALL OF OUR LIVES, we’ll still be at our VERY BEST unprofitable and vain. That is why Jesus came to earth, the entire reason, because WE cannot meet his standard, so HE had to meet his OWN standard and IMPUTE by grace through our faith HIS righteousness ON OUR PART. If I do good, ever, it was Christ in me, I can take no credit, in fact I am unaware of what I do that is good, and I will remain unaware until the judgment. The Bible says it will shock us when God rewards us, well ask him when we did such things he rewarded us for. You think you’ve gotten righteous, righteous enough to condemn Anderson for being less righteous than you. For this reason you condemn yourself. Now you wanna talk about the unrighteousness of others Shirley, look at yourself. You condemn Anderson by a law you made up, or for things that all men do, yet you are as woman Teaching, Preaching, and usurping authority over a man? I find that interesting, because the Bible does say something specifically about that. I don’t think you know a single thing the Bible actually teaches. I think you listen to a bunch of fat preachers in pulpits who have the appearance of godliness so you’ll give them of your tithes and offerings. You’ve made several commandments that have NOTHING scriptural to them, many of which being a false gospel, and Paul said let them which teach another gospel be DAMNED. You have much bigger issues, maybe you should focus on yourself and get your own soul right, before you start condemning other souls for sin. “He must show accountability and willingness to be saved.” Find that in the scripture. I’ll wait, till the world is gone, because it isn’t in there. You just made up another false gospel.

[@AB-bm2ip]

I wonder if you would take this at face value, without interpretation: Luke 1:6 (Zechariah and Elizabeth) were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.

[@Phearless7485]

@@AB-bm2ip Yeah, I’d take it as accurate when it says that about Job too. But nobodies blameless in the flesh, as the Bible LITERALLY says there is none righteous no NOT one, or all have sinned and fall short, or there is none that doeth good, or by the deeds of the law shall no flesh be justified, or there is NOT a just man upon the earth, etc… I don’t know if you’re trying to challenge my knowledge, but there is a spiritual face value and a physical face value, sometimes one isn’t true while the other is… thus needed to rightly divide. It isn’t true that Zechariah and Elizabeth has never sinned physically and thus are blameless, but is true that they were walking in faith, by nature keeping the commandments and ordinances of God and were blameless. There are times when I am blameless, when I walk in faith, and times when I am not, when I walk in the flesh.

[@Keepitoriginalministry]

​@@Phearless7485brother with all truth and love. Once saved always saved is a false teaching

[@Phearless7485]

@@Keepitoriginalministry You’re on your way to hell sir, and thus cannot be my brother. Salvation is of the Lord, if you believe you are involved in getting it or maintaining it, then you will be sent straight to hell with the rest of the Matthew 7 people. Hell is eternal so I strongly suggest you heed that warning. You don’t understand salvation, nor do you understand grace. If my salvation is earned by Christ and when I am born again I am born again OF GOD, not of the flesh, nor of man… and if what is BORN of God does not sin nor CAN it sin… then how could the new man lose that salvation? You need to get saved. Grace is Christ imputing HIS works to us by faith, and NOT of works. So in that, I am as righteous as Christ in the New Man, I cannot sin in the New Man, and I cannot then lose a salvation I did not earn. My old man can do what he wants, he is a dead man walking, his sin is no more mine, as Paul said, it is no more I that do sin, but sin that dwells in my flesh. 100% fact, if you don’t put all your faith in Christ you will spend an eternity in hell.

[@Keepitoriginalministry]

@@Phearless7485 yes! Salvation is OF THE LORD. EXACTLY! 💯 YOU THINK THAT YOU CAN "believe" AND THEN GO BECOME THE WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD AND STILL GO TO HEAVEN? YOU ARE THE ONE WHO THINKS THAT YOU CAN PLAY JESUS CHRIST BY BELIEVING IN HIM SUPPOSEDLY AND WORSHIP SATAN AND STILL GO TO HEAVEN WITHOUT HIM? 😂 YOU'RE TWISTED. SALVATION IS OF THE LORD. SO YOU BETTER ABIDE KID

[@Keepitoriginalministry]

@@Phearless7485 what is born of God does not sin WHY!!!!! 😂 YOU NEED TO GET BORN AGAIN. ITS NOT JUST A I READ THE BIBLE. ITS ACTUALLY TRUE KID. GOD TEACHES ME SIR. LET'S TALK? SHOW YOURSELF APPROVED

[@ericmaine4192]

You forgot, Pastors have qualifications.... 1 Timothy 5:8 But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

[@Phearless7485]

@@ericmaine4192 Did I? There is qualifications to BECOME a pastor that the people who qualify the man are supposed to look for. If he is not qualified, it is their fault and not his. There is nothing in the Bible that says, “if at any time this Pastor falls out of the qualifications, he must step down.” You guys have a lot of judgments, I just don’t see the world your way, I try and let Gods word make the judgments and otherwise I tend to liberty.

[@ericmaine4192]

@@Phearless7485 Gotcha, meet a standard, get qualified, than do what you want.... Here some scripture about keeping a good conscience after.... which some dont and shipwreck 1 Timothy 1:19 Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck: No way to have a good conscience and beat and abuse your own family members and young children and call it godly in your own mind. Ephesians 6:4 And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord. Colossians 3:21 Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they be discouraged.

[@Phearless7485]

@@ericmaine4192 Honestly I don’t think he ever met a standard. People who qualify people today don’t do it the Bible way, they do it the world’s way. I think he was a brawler, quick to anger, a novice, and many other such things when he was made a pastor, he just had it hidden and the more he grew, the more it came out. The verses you quote don’t say what you say, you just think you are so godly and righteous and above all, even God, that you are good enough to add your own standard to it. You quote an ambiguous verse about having a good conscience making what point? It was Paul exhorting Timothy, nothing is being taught here, you haven’t said anything. Then you apply it to what YOU call abuse. Proverbs 23:13-14 Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou BEATEST him with THE ROD, he shall NOT DIE. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell. Now Solomon, whom the Bible said was the wisest man to ever walk the earth (but God didn’t know you right) said to beat your child with a rod and not to worry about him dying. There is also a commandment whereby fathers could have their children stoned to death. You Bible illiterate, self righteous people, would call that abuse, but God doesn’t. Now your accusations against Anderson you are guilty of, as are we all as humans, all fathers, and every pastor because he is a human. Only people that have not angered or discouraged their children are people that don’t have children. Of course the Bible is telling us it is bad to do, but it doesn’t negate that we humans fail to do what is right ALL of the time. So you condemn yourself and all men in your condemnation of Anderson. The verse gives no explanation as what is provoking them to wrath, I’ve seen my kids get angry and discouraged simply because I tell them no for a piece of candy. Because the Bible does not define what this looks like, you’ve decided to add to it your own standard, because you are proud and in your own heart above all. What if I arbitrarily decided that telling your kids no was abuse, quoting your same proof verse? Or any discipline whatsoever? Then if you quote clear scripture about discipline, I just didn’t listen at all, still called you an abuser. The fact is, the Bible says nothing about “abuse”, says a LOT about pride, in fact is the first in the list of things which God HATES. Now you see how I use specific Bible to say what I say, I don’t just make my own standard. I use your own words and your own verses to make you look foolish and prove your pride and illiteracy. I don’t quote an ambiguous verse and then say it means some specific standard I set. The Bible says NOT to teach for doctrines the commandments of men… it says the people who do so worship God IN VAIN.

[@ericmaine4192]

​@@Phearless7485 So you apply Solomon's wisdom with rod in your house? Do you always obey Solomon's wisdom? Anderson definitely doesn't have a good conscience punching his kids with a closed fist... is that the rod you speak of too??? Colossians 3:21 Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they be discouraged. Ephesians 6:4 And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord. So do you provoke your children to anger with your unrighteous physical abuse with a rod? After Anderson falls, examine yourself, it might be coming... and then examine to see whether the Spirit is in you to begin with...

[@ericmaine4192]

@@Phearless7485 4 children eyewitness accounts of Anderson abuse kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHnKoHltn8Sai5Y Ungodly provoked children to anger with abuse Defiled a good conscience, justified himself in his actions, shipwrecked faith. Became an infidel, by failing to provide love and provision to his family... 1 Timothy 5:8 But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

[@Pomni740]

They are liars they are just trying to get money.

[@Phearless7485]

Do you have evidence of this, or is this just a guess? Not wise to cast a judgment based on a guess.

[@Pomni740]

@@Phearless7485 The burden of proof is on them to prove it is true.

[@josephbowers1931]

​@Phearless7485 she has a go fund me page that has already raised 186,000 dollars

[@Pomni740]

@josephbowers1931 Yeah, they are obviously lying so they can get money.

[@Phearless7485]

@@Pomni740 It is true they have the burden of proof. Acknowledging that, I would assume you understand that you also have the burden of proof for what you said… That’s why I asked, I disdain when people make charges but give no evidence or argument, they just say it, and that is their evidence.

[@JoshJorg44]

If you believe Steven Anderson is on his way to heaven, then you have zero understanding. The bible doesnt teach that you can live like a devil and just believe and go to heaven. It teaches repentance and deliverance from sin. If their is no change then their is no salvation. If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: MATTHEW 7:21

[@Phearless7485]

@@JoshJorg44 You will 100% go to hell if you keep that belief. You are a hypoctite and the one who has zero understanding. You think works are evidence of salvation, but it is your unfruitful works that condemn you. You’re a deceiver, one of satans tares, headed to hell because you do NOT believe on Jesus. Hell will be FULL of people who were once evil and who were justified, saved, and cleansed by Jesus alone. I would bet my house you can’t even tell me what repentance means, because you’re biblically illiterate. Loads of people didn’t change or changed for the worse and still went to heaven in the Bible, you absolute imbecile. Walking in darkness is walking in the old man genius, you don’t even know what that means, because even your best righteousness in the flesh are to God as filthy rags. Thats why we turned from our DEAD works and put you faith in God. You’re gonna split hell wide open, for eternity with your false gospel. You don’t even quote a verse about salvation. Stop talking, you’ll just be taking people to hell with you, degenerate. You want to learn something, then ask a question. You have no business teaching anything, serpent.

[@JoshJorg44]

@Phearless7485 according to Steven Anderson, you can sin all you want and go to heaven. He even said in a sermon that he could commit a murder and die right after and go straight to heaven. So according to that belief, how could you condemn me to hell? Steven Anderson is the most hateful preacher I've ever heard and he's obviously now guilty of being a wife and child abuser, yet, he's on his way to heaven because he "believes" . Even the demons believe. True belief is an action. Like James says. Ill show you my faith by my works. That doesn't mean your works save you. However, your works show your faith and evidence that God has saved you. Salvation isn't just a ticket yo heaven. It's a deliverance from sin and beginning of a new man. If their is no evidence then there is no salvation. You shall know them by their fruits. Steven Anderson only produces bad fruit.

[@carinacoetsee2334]

It's not a curse to submit to your husband. It's God's way. The Word says also, husbands love your wifes. If your husband loves you it's not difficult to submit. The Bible says also submit to each other, it means a wife also have a say. In God's order. Steven Anderson is abusive.

[@Phearless7485]

@@carinacoetsee2334 It is specifically a curse in the Bible, that God gave to Eve. I strictly use the Bible, now maybe you don’t feel like it is a curse because your husband is such a joy, and that’s cool for you, doesn’t make Gods word a lie though. Kinda like men have to work their whole lives to feed their families, that is a curse… some men love their jobs, that don’t make Gods word a lie. Yes, the Bible has a lot to say about husbands loving their wives and children. That means something different to everyone asked. The Bible does NOT give a list of hard nosed rules as to exactly how this is accomplished. It only says to submit your bodies to each other, a husband cannot deny his wife and visa versa. It does not then say that a wife has an equivalent say in the rest of the marriage. That is all dictated by the ruler, the husband. All your judgments were your own. Must be a pretty great person to not need God to make your judgments, even to be so wise that you can twist Gods word into your own BETTER judgments. You people claim to know and love God, but the truth is you only love yourself, Gods word has no influence over you. If you don’t like an aspect, you’ll just deny it completely and make your own better judgment. I don’t care who it is, no one does right by their husband/wife and kids at all times, every second of every day. These images people like you try to present are a sham. You stand to judge another parent because in YOUR OWN EYES, you’re better than him and never committed as grave an offense against your children. God gave you no authority over his family, but you’ve just taken some because you’re so great a person in your own eyes. You have a pride problem, God condemns pride 1000 times in the Bible, SPECIFICALLY. Never even mentions what you call “abuse”. I wonder which one God has a greater problem with. Hard times make people of character and we need hard time. Solomon said beat your child with a rod and thou shalt deliver his soul from hell, FEAR NOT FOR HE SHALL NOT DIE. Solomon basically said to beat your children so bad, their potential to die could come into question. You must be wise indeed to have more wisdom than Solomon, whom God said none would be greater. God didn’t know about you though, did he. Show me a dead Anderson child and I’ll condemn Anderson for abuse. Far as I see, he is within his rights. I wouldn’t do what he does, but I can’t scripturally condemn him either. I refuse to lift myself up like you and the rest of the judges and condemn him with MY OWN commandments.

[@sofkev3771]

@@Phearless7485 All your judgments are your own as well. They cannot not be your own. Who else's would they be?

[@carinacoetsee2334]

@@Phearless7485 I'm so sorry that you don't understand the Bible. They were cursed in the Old Testament. Why do you think Jesus came? It's to redeem us from the curse that came on people after the first sin. Jesus took the whole curse on him. He came to set us free. And another thing, when you understand what Jesus did for you, took all your sins on Him, etc and receive him in your heart you are just so thankful. And when you see this abuse, etc, which is really terrible, you don't judge, the Word judges people. One day we are going to stand before God and give account of what we did. If people really repent and stop wrongdoing, God will forgive them. But I don't see repentance here so far.

[@RosesandSuchh]

Jesus came to break any curses. I respectfully disagree with your view on submission in marriage. The Bible is clear that a man should love his wife and vice versa a woman should submit. However, they can both set boundaries and say no at times. Not all people are going to be 100 percent every single day. Again, I mean no disrespect here. However, I do know God, and I love him. It's not anyone's place to blindly say they don't know the Lord. Only God and that person know.

[@Phearless7485]

@@RosesandSuchh I’ve heard this argument made many times. It is an absurd argument. Jesus did come to break curses, spiritually, not physically. The unsaved are still under the law. Our bodies are still under the curse of death… or we wouldn’t die. The physical curses are here and will be here until the end of the world. The law is still in effect for the unsaved. Jesus simply gave us victory over these curses in the new man. Men still have to work to feed their families and women still have to serve their husband as unto Christ. Sure, the Bible is clear a man should love his wife, but the Bible also gives many cases where the man didn’t (by the worlds definition of love) and the wife was STILL subject to him, as was the case for Leah, Michal, etc... Men still have the authority over their wife that God does over the world. Women like to negate their own curses, never hear a woman argue that men no longer need to work to feed their families. Women are unreasonable and emotional creatures, thats why the Bible says (after Jesus died) that a woman is not suffered to teach, nor preach, nor usurp authority over man, but to learn in silence and ask their husbands at home. Another scripture you have no doubt reinterpreted to not apply to you. You should be willing to listen to God, abide by the laws which he has placed over us. You don’t hear me complaining I have to work to feed my family, you don’t hear me saying Jesus eliminated that curse so I am free from it, I am keeping my responsibility to my wife and seven children and the Lord knows I will continue to do so until he delivers me from this body of death.

[@beckypetersen2680]

You seem to indicate that is normal for a Christian man is to get mad at his wife at least once in a while - he can't help it if she frustrates him. This whole scenario is nonsense. Sorry. Biblically a pastor is not to be striker (someone who hits people) or railer (someone who yells at people and calls them names) - both of which obviously SA is. Even you have used the word 'h-ll' as an expression in this video.. When did Christians start thinking this is okay? Not mature Christians that I know. I'm concerned that the older boys do not even know what true Christianity is. I pray that the Lord gets ahold of their hearts - along with their dad (and mom). This is not to say that I don't believe them about what happened - as they give too many details to even begin to think that they have made it up. Of course I don't see SA as having the fruit of the Spirit either. The one who manifested them seems to be Miriam in what I have seen. I pray that God continues to protect her and guide her and allows her to grow up in the grace and peace of our Lord.

[@Phearless7485]

@@beckypetersen2680 You gonna talk about Christian maturity as you, a woman, teaches and preaches to me, a man? Get out of here, you’re lying to yourself. Paul said I suffer not a woman to teach or preach or usurp authority over a man, and yes, he was talking generally. You talk about “real” Christians while you prove you are one of those “Christians” that use the Bible when it serves them and abuse it when it doesn’t. On top of this, you were not even smart enough to understand the very basic point I was making. So why argue? Biblically the Bible says they are not to SET over us a striker, etc…. He’s already been made a pastor. Show me where the Bible says we can remove his office. You can’t. You high and mighty, virtue signaling “above all in your own mind” Christians are the very worst of us, and you don’t even know it because you are so blinded by pride. If sin disqualifies a position, then all men are disqualified, even David, even Moses, etc… Yet God left them in their office and didn’t immediately strip their office. But you would’ve right, because you are so righteous even God does not hold a candle to your moral compass. God uses the word hell, guess he isn’t a “mature” Christian. You people don’t know the Bible at all, you sit around listening to your Joel Osteen type, passive, sissy boys and think that is godliness. God also says damn, bastard, etc… He really needs to grow up, and at least be as good as you. The Bible says every word of the Lord is pure, God wouldn’t use it if it was an inherently evil word. I don’t even think you know the meaning of the word mature. As far as Anderson, I am not a fan of his. Also, I am simply saying what I believe the book says and NOT adding either less or more. You take what you think, and then you make a concrete judgment on the man because YOU SAY SO. As the Bible says, “teaching for doctrines the commandments of men”, an accursed thing. But to make it worse, you’re not even a man, usurping Gods natural order. The Bible says NOT to “set one over us” who is known for those things. Not that we can tear one down who does those things. Also, the Bible gives ZERO instruction on how a man is to discipline his wife and children. So any limit you put, is YOUR addition to Gods word. Yelling and calling names is railing… get out of here. Railing is a lot of things, like what you are doing, working behind the mans back slandering his name based on your own Biblically illiterate judgments. Why are you people always hypocrites? Throwing stones at a man for something… while you do that something. Hit yourself with a rock every time you sin against God, see how you like it.

[@solid3fy]

Bro who asked you

[@Phearless7485]

@@solid3fy Not sure if you know, but your family put it up for the whole world to see. I told you why I felt qualified to speak on the subject. Pharisees probably told Jesus the equivalent of “who asked you.” Maybe they told John that when he told Herod he should not have his brother’s wife. Y’all are young, and know very little. When you’re 40 and you’ve raised children into their teens, I guarantee your perspective will be much different. Y’all don’t know you’re being unwise now, but you’ll know soon enough.

[@paulan7218]

@@Phearless7485 you’re just full of nonsense. I guarantee these young people will not regret anything that they did because right now they’re trying to protect their younger siblings. How do I know this because I was the older siblings in a situation very similar. Shame on you for judging them. Remember with the measure, we judge we will be judged.

[@Phearless7485]

@@paulan7218 You’re full of nonsense. You know nothing. “I was in a similar situation”, be quiet. I grew up in foster homes, I know exactly what type of homes they will go into, and the world is exponentially more evil now than it was then. Who does the Bible say should raise the children? The parents. Who do you say? We don’t care. How could you be a better judge than God. Judge them…? Your brain must not work. I didn’t cast any judgment on them, I judged the situation. I neither condemned them, nor did I praise them due to their decision. Now the Bible says I will judge angels, how much more should I judge matters pertaining to this world. Now since you are smarter than God, answer me this, why does the Bible say NOT to bring a Christian to law before the world? Maybe because the world is evil and does NOT serve God. Yet you say some good will come of it? Must be pretty wise to be wiser than God. You’re the one full of nonsense. Stop pretending to be Christian. The verses you try to quote expose that you know nothing. The Bible tells me in the verse you quoted not to judge in hypocrisy, show me my hypocrisy, and then condemn me. I just showed you your hypocrisy, you condemned yourself with the verse you quoted against me. Now answer me this. If they take their father to law before the world… is the world going to see to it that God is glorified? No. They’ve already given much occasion for the enemy to blaspheme. They’ve already done irreparable damage. You just are only looking at fleshy damage… inconsequential stuff. Have any of their children died? Have any of their children even shown a single ounce of physical evidence that anything they said is true? No, you’re just being a respecter of persons because you don’t like Steven Anderson. Well, I don’t like him either, but I can still have a fair and balance opinion.

[@qualitybread7891]

Are you chewing tobacco?

[@Phearless7485]

@@qualitybread7891 Gross