Steven Universe Fan Wrecks Campaign (r/RPGHorrorstories)

[@RPGTales]

You know the video is going to be good when the first thing you see is a disclaimer.

[@DenoftheDrake]

I consider it a mark of quality!

[@WhiskeyPatriot]

My body is ready.

[@PoggusAmogus]

he aint wrong

[@legacyofboom56]

its always weird to see youtubers i watch in other peoples comment section

[@SetzerII]

@@DenoftheDrake Official Nintendo seal of quality cringe.

[@kotik5762]

“You can’t play a black coded character”… and then plays the aggressively, printer paper white Rose Quartz, but as a black woman. There’s some pretty serious irony in that

[@Onewingerdraven]

Maybe she was black herself

[@kotik5762]

@@Onewingerdraven I mean yeah, I don't actually have a problem with people messing around with coding or letting their own personalities effect how they view and present characters. I do have a problem with people hypocritically demanding that no one else be allowed to do what they do

[@Andrewtr6]

If anyone every told me that I can't play X character, that's exactly what my next character would be. I would even make a figurine for them that I obnoxiously display in clear view for them to see. I've interacted with people like this as a fiction writer, saying that I can't write X character, yet I still manage to write them just fine.

[@MothOnWall]

You can tell right there she was really playing a racial revenge power fantasy. And she hated Pearl with a capital H.

[@greasysmith3150]

@@Andrewtr6 you can't play a human fighter with a cool mustache. (One more mustachioed fighter secured)

[@AngelicEra]

The fact that she views Pearl as a selfish, codependent manipulator and Amethyst as a fun-loving goofball speaks absolute volumes about her as a person.

[@shadenox8164]

Specially since Amethyst had a helluva of an inferiority complex. A trait she said Pearl has, which to be fair she does too.

[@kylethomas9130]

@@shadenox8164 who in that show doesn't have an inferiority complex that isn't a fusion?

[@TheScorpion0081]

Especially adding the fact that Pearl is the most Martial and technical of the three. I don't think Karen likes Pearl much.

[@Tytoalba777]

As someone who's never seen the show, what's a more accurate description their personalities?

[@TheScorpion0081]

@@Tytoalba777 TL;DR: Not Karen's. Too much Bias.

[@chrispbacon1763]

Something tells me Karen is the kinda person who gives an artist death threats over drawing Rose Quartz too skinny

[@Visman117]

Or changes a characters race and posts "fixed it for you"

[@farkbett699]

@@Visman117 those people are actual racists and I hate them

[@dakotasan8719]

Honestly when I first heard that I was so tempted to start drawing Steven and Rose as JoJo characters, then I remembered I can’t draw for shit and assumed the fetal position under my bed

[@LordChaosHavik]

God, don't remind me. Was mortified when I found out that someone was being threatened because they drew a SHAPESHIFTER skinny.

[@AlexThePyroshark]

Which is ironic, considering how she went and changed her skin color for her Mary Sue of a PC.

[@thesadseal2electricboogalo597]

"Most dragons hoard gold, but I hoard internet cringe" Yep. I found a good channel.

[@shawnthompson2303]

I know, right?!

[@georgehutter339]

Yeah same, im def hanging out here for a while

[@themoocow7718]

Same here. It’s pretty great.

[@thegrandxbunny2073]

Same.

[@ParsureArts]

ONE OF US

[@chaoticneutralgamer3022]

I actually don't know which is worst; Karen going out of her way to try and try to force racial identities onto aliens that are literally just living gemstones with magical powers. Or Karen forcing the only white party member to play what is clearly their least favorite character whom them deemed basically useless.

[@AlexThePyroshark]

Why not both?

[@chaoticneutralgamer3022]

@@AlexThePyroshark ..... Both is good.

[@woohoo3786]

they do it in the show.

[@TheScorpion0081]

Porque no Las dos?

[@Fish-vs6jf]

So the second thing I agree with you on, but about the first: are you really going to look at Garnet and tell me that the show's creators didn't intend for her to be read as Black?

[@flyweightenthusiast]

When you're playing with a steven universe fan and he starts bullying an artist npc to depression: DEJA VU

[@DenoftheDrake]

I HAVE BEEN IN THIS PLACE BEFORE

[@StrngeShenangnz]

OH NO NOT THAT EVENT

[@SoulNeozis]

@Andrew Cho AND I KNOW IT'S MY TIME TO GO HOME

[@osets2117]

Really shows how bad this fanbase can be(others too but some of the things I've heard are just ridiculous)

[@tenryuu]

@@SoulNeozis CALLING YOU, AND THE SEARCH IS A MYSTERY

[@angrytrashpanda1371]

When she was describing pearl, my mind went immediately to, "did we watch the same show?"

[@DragoSonicMile]

Maybe Karen stopped after a few random episodes of Season 1.

[@Archerillian]

Karen may have been a Lily Orchard wannabe, because that would explain how her opinion on Pearl came to be.

[@DwarfDaddy]

I’m curious how Karen would feel about Rose after season 5?

[@shadowmetroid18]

Could be she was emphasizing the worst aspects of the character because there's clearly some tension between her and OP.

[@FiresplitterSpeedrun]

i mean, she is not incorrect... But yeah, it is VERY obvious which character she liked and which she didn't like...

[@jangelaclough5457]

"she was really into children" Me: oh no...oh no..this won't go anywhere good "She adopted a few children" Me: oh thank god

[@justsomelizardwithatophat.367]

Lmao same even when I re watch it I still get a bad feeling.

[@demoulius1529]

Glad im not the only one with that reaction xD

[@YataTheFifteenth]

I despise how _that's_ my first reaction also. God damn I wish my innocence was back.

[@skullton3292]

Ngl that's where my mind went as well lol

[@lordofthememes5457]

Oh no

[@viridityone3106]

"Thicc black woman in a wedding dress" I didn't know I could cringe that hard. The fact that she rip rose quartz out of the show wholesale only makes it worse.

[@majinism5582]

She couldn't even give her a different name

[@steveunderwood9307]

But she's a stone made of a carbon latticework with some impurities that give color.... not a human and therefore not 'black'. Heck, Amethyst always felt like 'sassy black girl with 80s white girl style" to me, and Garnet felt more 'black' even though her component parts felt more like one white girl and one latina (tell me you can't see Vasques from 'Aliens' in the way Ruby behaves/was drawn). Rocks don't ahve genders, or race 'coding'.

[@yourbiggestfan395]

@@rachdarastrix5251 Dragonborn can be black though! But they're also the most jank ass race because of their strange lore.

[@wannabehistorian371]

@@steveunderwood9307 Well there is race “coding” in that some characters can be clearly modeled on a certain race. Like Garnet is drawn to look like a black human and has an AAVE accent, while Pearl is clearly drawn to look like a white human. Though they aren’t actually so, they take the forms of such. It’s much like how they’re “female” and “lesbians” despite being genderless in reality. Though that doesn’t stop it from most contexts it’s brought up in to be groanworthy, and in most cases “coding” is indeed pretty BS. Like that fiasco with Knuckles the Echidna being “black coded” apparently (despite the fact that if anything his culture is pretty clearly Mayan/Aztec/Incan influenced and that he is an Australian animal, maybe with some Jamaican influence to his design, so even if he was “coded” as a certain race one could make as much of an argument that he’s “coded” to be Amerindian or Aboriginal). I’ve also seen Ahsoka from Star Wars being described as “non-white coded”. It’s absolutely stupid. I’m surprised more people aren’t taking the piss out of it.

[@jackmack4181]

@Joseph Williams I rolled 1 “Your spine collapses onto itself in cringe”

[@BrokenHedgehog]

This is a HUGE problem I've always had with guides/opinions/essays/etc. in progressive circles on how to "properly" write characters who aren't white. It kind of insinuates that people of color all act a certain way. Which, you know, is making a generalization based on their skin color/ethnic background. Which is racist, albeit unintentionally so.

[@pinkdiamond1847]

I honestly find progressives to be the most racist people I've ever come across and the most painful part is that they are completely unaware and think that they are in the right.

[@Nukestarmaster]

It's not unintentional.

[@inky5574]

To add on to that list of characters being voiced by people that aren't their race, Katara from Avatar who's design is reminiscent of Inuit and Eskimo culture is voiced by a WHITE woman and Kronk who is an Incan is voiced by a white man.

[@DuskEalain]

@@inky5574 Okay but could anyone seriously imagine someone who ISN'T Patrick Warburton playing Kronk? His voice works so well for the role.

[@prinnyhayate5517]

@@DuskEalain Agreed xD

[@LovecutV]

I can already tell Karen was one of the Tumblr people who started screaming every single time Pearl got any screen time in the show as it was airing and demanded that she be shattered for daring to have an attitude at Amethyst. Just call it a hunch

[@BrokenHedgehog]

THANK YOU. Pearl is a really complex, flawed character, and she gets done dirty by people who aren't intelligent enough to understand character depth. I think she's kind of annoying, but FFS, she's not a fucking supervillain...

[@dakotasan8719]

So one of those screaming, rainbow-haired crybullies?

[@m-pc5334]

People on tumblr did that? Darn. Pearl is one of my favourite characters.

[@cnkclark]

I like the meme that retitles the show as PEARL'S PTSD ROLLERCOASTER: THE ANIMATION. Too accurate.

[@cnkclark]

@@BrokenHedgehog She is indeed kind of annoying, but becomes compelling when you begin to understand more about how she's been hurt and see why she is the way she is. The difference between surface appearance and reality in this show is astonishing, from literally with the gem characters to a meta level with the show itself.

[@ByrdieFae]

As a fellow black female SU fan that actually LOVES well done crossovers and remixes, I am SO EMBARRASSED. This story makes me want to go cry in a corner.

[@omegagamer5830]

it seems this Karen hasn't watched the show, otherwise, she would know that the gems aren't all Lesbians, since Rose herself fell in love with a human male.

[@wargrizzero5158]

Or that Pearl has a host of cool abilities

[@kagato23]

Pretty sure Amy also banged Greg. It wasn’t love though.

[@thefakecat8340]

@@kagato23 i forgot about that implication xD

[@andrellnogueira]

Now that you mention it, they'd probably be bi (pan?) consider they don't have a concept of gender, they call them female out of convention only.

[@kagato23]

@@andrellnogueira I’d say most would be most closely likened to something equivalent to our human homosexual, in that most of these sentient rocks are going to be attracted to other sentient rocks. Rose being into squishy meat was probably really fucking weird to her friends at first.

[@ArtificialDM]

Wow... The fact that Karen expected OP (and the rest of the players) to be fully immersed and understanding of the Steven Universe universe is pretty over-estimated. You can't even expect your players to be fully immersed and understanding of the lore, mannerisms, and effects of normal D&D.

[@DenoftheDrake]

Bruh, exactly! Even more reason why she should have just come clean with them and sent them to the wiki!

[@HeckleJeckle87]

As somebody who has tried to get a legend of Zelda tabletop game off the ground, I can relate. Yes, IF the entire group is invested in the setting/lore/etc it can be a BLAST, but that is the thing. If everyone ISN'T invested into the setting you might as well just use a more standard setting, or just completely homebrew everything.

[@themangledwither]

@@HeckleJeckle87 yea like my dnd game I'm apart is a mix of dnd and warhammer 40k it's really fun especially when you're a warforged who keeps being called servitor by every edgy space person you meet

[@Redbird-dh7mu]

Remember DMs, not every player knows what is going on, many newer ones just understand the basics and any knowledge they need to play some races. Don’t expect every player to fully grasp every little detail you put in there and be like, “this trap is a slightly different color than the rest, once I tell the party this, maybe they will remember that a certain character’s magical traps look like this and piece together everything”.

[@Cheetahgirl_Studios]

Bro fr I’m a newbie DM and I’m STILL trying to figure out wtf is going on in the lore of DnD. The only thing I’ve got the hang of so far is Gruumsh and the Orcs. So how exactly do some DMs expect their players to magically understand the inner workings of the lore and mechanics of DnD STRAIGHT AWAY? Edit: Gruumsh is named Gilgramesh now apparently.

[@cherrypopscile3385]

"That sounds like My Little Pony, but with lesbians" That statement deserves to be on an inspirational quote image.

[@DenoftheDrake]

I'm gonna sell a print of it on my Patreon when I make one

[@Vincent-kb8lq]

Cards Against Humanity answer card

[@bonefetcherbrimley7740]

MLL, my little lesbian.

[@majinism5582]

as a fan of the show (not a crazy one) and I have to say..... not inaccurate

[@--enyo--]

It sounds pretty awesome.

[@youshouldntadidthat7691]

"That sounds like MLP with lesbians instead of horses" that line is definitely something I’ll keep in my back pocket if I ever get tired of dealing with an insufferable Stan

[@solouno2280]

No, it's not. It is propaganda made by someone as diligent as Chris Chan and with the same "artistic talent" heck. Rebecca Sugar does draw feet in the same way Chris Chan does. And Chris Chan actually has drawn women that doesn't look like protrectons and c3pos

[@Magnet_Chaos]

I slightly disagree because half the villains in My Little Pony got straight up murder by the cast or sent to hell AND then murder. Friendship was no the answer. It was the question. And sometimes the answer was no.

[@АндрейНеугодников-м6е]

Propaganda of what?

[@rollanddev]

NGL, I lost it when he said that. XD

[@AMR_Setsunai]

@@solouno2280 mf did you just speak enchantment table

[@soueu8D]

I cracked at "they aren't assexual, they ARE ALL lesbians"

[@MrGamernova]

Stevens Dad: Well yes but actually no.

[@TyoAtrosa]

Literally almost every gem was either ace or demi at most, with few exceptions. Considering that love and romantic feelings, or really feelings in general, were considered a defect by most of the gem race...

[@notrod5341]

That's possible though? Asexuality just means you don't feel sexual attraction. Many ace people still look for romantic relationships

[@TyoAtrosa]

@@notrod5341 the point is that having ANY kind of feelings towards another gem other than respect or loyalty was seen as a defect in gem society. It was the whole reason pink diamond started the war with herself, to try to get all the "defective" gems to join her in a place they wouldn't be considered trash. Just turns out it backfired spectacularly and turned rose into the most hated character on the show, even though she meant well. As the saying goes, "the road to hell is paved in good intentions".

[@notrod5341]

@@TyoAtrosa Oh I'm not talking about the show - I've seen about one episode - im just trying to make sure people aren't getting false ideas about what asexualiy actually is

[@charliehershberger8803]

24:13 "She gave us some lore on the species, and about the world she built overall ..." plagiarism isn't world building.

[@notcompletelynormal]

I mean, you’ve got a point - but personally I also feel like people who turn a known universe into a dnd setting did build something. I’m currently playing in a homebrew game, based on the world in the Dragonlance books. As far as I know lots of stuff is from that world (I don’t want spoilers or risk inadvertently metagaming, so haven’t read them), but huge parts are all him. Our character’s original backstories are big parts of the world and how we act and fuck up are massively influential on the make-up of everything around us, changing the setting he based it upon. Again - you’re not wrong, I just think it’s more nuanced than “basing a campaign in an existing universe is plagiarism”. Plenty of people do almost all homebrew stuff based on Star Wars and I still think that counts as valid world building.

[@VimyGlide]

@@notcompletelynormal ...you do know dragonlance was originally a dnd setting, right that said if your dm really based his dragonlance campaign on the books and not the setting proper then THAT'S full circle

[@notcompletelynormal]

@@VimyGlide I am fully aware of the origins of the books, worry not! Our game is based on said books, so circle complete, I guess :D But with lots of extra shit. At the moment (lvl 16) we're dealing with a massive demon invasion and a complicated demon hierarchy, which as far as I know isn't in the novels (again, haven't read them, so I might be wrong. I avoid them like the plague, I do not want to know or accidentally metagame). My point was mainly just that I don't think using an established setting as a starting point is a sign of plagiarism or lack of creativity (unless you literally tell people you came up with everything).

[@willsith9762]

Her portrayal of Rose Quartz as some super powerful perfect badass speaks volumes for how well she understood the show.

[@errortryagainlater4240]

The character whose whole thing is being both dead AND heavily flawed 💀💀💀

[@Cheetahgirl_Studios]

I think she just watched the first season, and that was it. She figured that was all she needed to know about the show. Which explains why her characterisation of the Gems in her campaign is so vague and shallow. I’M LOOKING AT YOU, DND PEARL!

[@kyuven]

Although oddly that interpretation does fit well with how the *characters* viewed her, likely at the time the campaign was being run. Benefit of the doubt, Season 2 probably wasn't out at the time, especially since it seems kinda obvious Karen wasn't aware of Garnet or Pearl's "things" yet.

[@sirkillalot9892]

@@kyuven Yet Amethyst impersonating a dead woman out of her own insecurities was just ignored. Really all the Crystal Gems had their garbage, although Garnet didn't really get anything besides the wise badass mom until Ruby & Sapphire were revealed.

[@voilvelev6775]

The show itself is pretty fucking toxic, too.

[@NerdyComedian]

Boblin the Goblin sounds dope af. i mean come on imagine your an enemy NPC and you just see boblin rolling up at you with his glocklin in his hand. Shit if that were me I would have just surrendered ain't no way I'm messing with Boblin with his glocklin

[@thegrandxbunny2073]

If you fight Boblin the Goblin, You'll be Soblin.

[@Biblically-Accurate-Crow]

Same.

[@rararasputin8608]

"Steven, what are you doing?" "Forgiving Tiamat."

[@Lucifer04289]

Her reign continued almost indefinitely due to the hero basically saying it's ok as long as your nice about it.

[@rararasputin8608]

@@Lucifer04289 Reminds me of that Hitler art with Steven.

[@DrawciaGleam02]

@@rararasputin8608 I've heard of it and was like....oh no.... Showrunners really should have changed the diamonds characters if they wanted to redeem them.

[@cedricallman9733]

@@rararasputin8608 Wait what?!

[@boxorak]

*[Sweats in Fate/Grand Order player]*

[@DudeTheMighty]

"Steven Universe is My Little Pony with lesbians instead of horses" isn't the hot take we need right now, but man is it ever the one we deserve.

[@DenoftheDrake]

You've all been very naughty. So take your gay horses.

[@rararasputin8608]

@@DenoftheDrake And your C&D's courtesy of Hasbro, your furries, your pedophiles (looking at you, MandoPony), and- well, I got nothing. I mean, it doesn't really get worse aside from the horrid amount of R34, so how about a nice batch of sugar cookies, Betty Crocker variant? We left the vanilla frosting and sprinkles on the counter.

[@boxorak]

...if there's a SU equivalent of The Jar I'm getting the flammenwerfer.

[@rararasputin8608]

@@boxorak "No, not yet sir." - An agent from Disney, 'South Park'

[@elizabethsmith7224]

You're not wrong but in my eyes Steven Universe got waaaaay darker then FIM ever did.

[@kay_jello]

Rose Quartz is later revealed to be Pink Diamond in the series and Diamonds are basically gods so this lady just straight up had God as her DnD character

[@DrawciaGleam02]

So, anyone wanna homebrew an Arceus clone? (I'm joking)

[@user-dc2xp6lh2e]

@@DrawciaGleam02 LMAO

[@andresvargas119]

@@DrawciaGleam02 HAHAHA HAHAHA, nice

[@shinigamiphantom1391]

Every isekai character in a nutshell.

[@thebluephanto7655]

And still got owned on a 1v1

[@D1gi4rs]

Ironically. If a show tries to give a good message, there's a high risk of having a horrible fandom

[@BossStar1995]

Too bad SU didn't have a good message by the end.

[@an0rmalp3rson70]

@@BossStar1995 "Forgive literal *SPACE HITLER* 🤗🤗🤗"

[@BossStar1995]

@@an0rmalp3rson70 yep. They also hinted towards two children engaging in inappropriate activity on screen multiple times, so they had a flimsy morality to begin with.

[@pogggaming4470]

So should they start giving out bad message for a low risk of bad fandom?

[@VidelxSpopovich]

SU did not have a good message. It was about successfully hiding from your problems at the expense of everyone around you. Pink Diamond ruined so many lives, lied to her friends and got away with it all leaving her only son to suffer the consequences of her terrible actions.

[@drcoolcabbage]

"Karen didn't even answer anything I said, just started yelling slurs, curses, and profanities at me." Yep, sounds like SU fandom alright.

[@izzaamazing9277]

I like SU but most people that like SU only focus on the love connection in it and absolutely IGNORE life lessons in it 😑😑😑

[@kingbob514]

@@izzaamazing9277 Like how she was very clearly racist in multiple parts of the story, despite being anti-bias being a huge part of the story?

[@Code_E_the_Goober]

@@kingbob514 In fact, there were multiple PSAs for kids using Steven Universe characters getting across the message of "Don't be racist." ...Garnet literally just says in one "Kids, don't be racist." KAREN CAN'T EVEN UNDERSTAND INFORMATION OF A PSA FOR *_CHILDREN_*

[@PedroShadow2011]

@@izzaamazing9277 For real holy crap. I absolutely love SU for various personal reasons, but the fandom makes me rethink my life decisions every single goddamn time

[@basedcrocodile3477]

@@Code_E_the_Goober To be fair the "antiracism" PSAs are literally as racist as Karen was. SU has a trash fandom because it is trash.

[@villager5310]

Pearl literally does have special abilities that are pretty cool. Her gem can store objects like a bag of holding. She can shoot fireballs from her spear. She can make multiple holographic clones of herself that are tangible. Not to mention that she’s also skilled in sword fighting. She nerfed Pearl just to spite OP. Also Pearl is played by an Asian women.

[@DeltaMetroid1]

I feel that Karen just hated pearl because her character was white and just simply found a way to spite the DM.

[@villager5310]

@@DeltaMetroid1 that’s still funny because Pearl is played by an Asian woman.

[@vonnie0_0]

I find it funny too, lot of people who claim to be “fighting the good fight” for all the minorities, are very racist to Asian people and their culture because they think they’re white which doesn’t make any sense because well... “white” is not a race. There are many light skinned people with different cultures and heritages.

[@TheChoujinVirus]

@@vonnie0_0 and it's also funny when people defend "white people" and "Western heritage" when they also forget that message too (or they say it so vague on purpose because they want to defend a certain group of "whites")

[@xWukong]

@@TheChoujinVirus True, white isn't a culture being say irish is.

[@berry_hikari]

As a fan of the actual show I find this women EXTREMELY Cringe and it will always make me cringe because there’s no way of getting completely rid of these types of people as long as any fandom exists

[@AlphaOfCyber]

Ditto, could not have said it better.

[@ForestX77]

Yup sad truth of any fandom there is gonna be “those” people and it’s “those” people that others think of when said fandom is brung up despite “those” people for a majority of the time being the minority of the fandom. Like I heard that the Undertale and Overwatch community are extremely toxic and full of “those” people but I could and can be wrong so if I am by all means let me know.

[@casualsleepingdragon8501]

Agreed

[@Shalakor]

@@ForestX77 All it means when "a fandom is extremely toxic" is that the fandom is bigger, so the negative element is larger due to being proportional to the overall size. But this also means the proportion of the positive element can be bigger too. Good anecdotes just don't spread as easily as cringe and hate does, so looking from the outside in will always more readily highlight the toxicity.

[@spectralumbra1568]

I hate that people like that can make people uninterested in or even outright hate shows they've never seen before. Even Drake said that Steven Universe was probably the most annoying show to come out recently in spite of saying earlier in the video that he had never watched it and knew nothing about it, so I'm assuming that must have been an opinion based entirely on the toxic aspects of the fandom. The show had a lot of issues, sure, but it also addressed a lot of things that were unheard of in cartoons before it. A while back I replied to someone's post when that person, who I believe was either a child or young teen I can't remember exactly, expressed some annoyance that some adults could act so bigoted when it came to gender/sexual identities when even a child could understand the issues and know that acting bigoted is wrong. I told them that I was impressed by how well kids seem to know about these issues compared to when I was their age, and someone chimed in specifically referencing Steven Universe as a large part of why that was. Like just exposing them to those ideas put them in a better position to learn on their own.

[@FernandoMazzo175]

8:59 "THAT THING IS A MONSTER!" Den Of The Drake says he doesn't know anything about Steven Universe, but was still able to give the most accurate description of Rose Quartz/Pink Diamond I've ever seen

[@Buzzkilljoy1248]

A completely faithful 1:1 recreation of a canonical Crystal Gem in D&D would absolutely fuck gameplay balance without some significant nerfs

[@cageybee7221]

players who kill off their characters just to make new ones are THE WORST. had a player who secretly had the FUCKING NECRONOMICON and deciced "oh i'll just yeet myself off a bridge it's not like i have that mysterious highly plot important book with me or anything" fml

[@DenoftheDrake]

Yes! Shame me for my sins! 😭

[@GTS_LTS]

Wait, WHAT?!?!

[@ProduccionesPaquito]

In a pathfinder campaign I was dming the party found a floating town filled with undead. They were all sentient and had all kinds of different alignments, because the town was under the direct protection of a godess of mercy and the sea. All the players found it really interesting and just started having fun, one of them got really invedted with the plot about the godess, another just had a walk to see all the city had to offer and another just sat there talking to a local vampire lord who, after retiring to this place, had become a successful novel writer. One of the players though, had a character that was very anti-undead, which is understandable, and could lead to some fun roleplay. Instead he had a bit of a tantrum and left for the outskirts of the town, to "look for some money". It had been established that the outskirts are filled with those among the city's undead that either have little to no sentience or have the most aggressive instincts. So he goes there, he's picking up seashells or something and out comes a random skeleton. The skeleton starts making noises at him and keeps approaching him (in pathfinder undead have their own language, this character didn't speak it). "Does it come near me?" "Yes, it starts approaching you" "cure wounds" (in pf cure spells hurt undead). "The skeleton takes 16 damage and crumbles into dust....... A huge bulking skeletal monster (I flip the bestiary and show them the Gashadokuro) appears, bursting out of the rotting ground, it's usually hard to tell the mood of undead creatures, but this one is definitely angry at you" "I cast fly and fly away" "He gets an attack of opportunity and grabs you by the leg" "oh...". 5 rounds of the character tryng to escape as he dies. Then the gashadokuro brings the corpse in front of the avatar of the godess. So what's happened here? See, the skeleton just wanted to know the time. It was old, it was a rainy day and it wasn't able to see the sun very well, so yeah, of course if a random stranger passed by it would ask. Then the guy Dr. Manhattans the skeleton, who's just a random citizen. A buddy of his, usually a gentle giant, former encarnation of hunger and strife, watches from its resting place as its poker friend ceases to exist. After the player character is also a broken pile of meat he carries the corpse in front of the godess to see if she can fix him. Because the big skeleton was chaotic good. So the godess brings the player character back from the death... with a little twist to make him humble. He's now undead himself. He rises, pale and with no pulse. He asks if he has spells slots. I tell him he's resurrected as he was when he died, slots and all. He goes "Oh fuck no" and casts HEAL on himself, dealing 150 points of damage to his face, commiting suicide by positive energy. On the one hand we all had a laugh. Then I reminded him that his character was important for the plot and he was the ONLY ONE that knew about the BBEG, what he was planning and how to stop them. The rest had literally no knowledge of the actual plot and now I would have to make... a couple of modest changes... A couple of days later he apologized and asked if he could undo his suicide by health, but I told him it was ok, it was a decission taken on rol by the character, that I liked his new character and that I already had plans for his former one's soul. We had a laugh and a kek and we've kept playing for months, but... getting them back to the plotline has been an uphill battle since then!

[@omega0678]

“... and as your body sinks deeper into the waters below, broken and bloody, you awaken. You are unsure of where you are, seemingly floating amidst the night sky, with naught but the distant stars to keep you company. You’re unsure of how long you drift amongst these unmoving pinpricks of light before you notice the faint heat and the strange vibration coming from within that strange tattered book you carry. You take the book out to examine it, but this isn’t the book you expected to see. What you hold on your hand is not the ancient, decrepit tome you once possessed. “It looks new, the title written in a script that you are unable to understand. The warmth has grown to the point that the book is very nearly searing your flesh, but you can’t let go. Not yet. The vibration has grown into an all-encompassing hum that penetrates your mind. The book is emitting a soft, green glow. “You open the book and your mind begins to instantly fill with the forbidden knowledge stored inside. You feel yourself succumbing to the influx of information flooding your mind. You struggle in vain to close the book as the distant stars close in on you, the pale, sickly green light emitted by the book casting just enough light for you to see the horrible, indescribable forms of the beings attached to the glowing eyes that had been, you finally realize, following you this entire time. “You feel your body begin to rip itself asunder as your flesh begins to tear and your blood begins to flow out of you into an odd cloud before being absorbed by the book. You feel a white hot pain somewhere deep in your mind and then you are no more. “The rest of you are are looking over the edge of the bridge, staring down at the blood slowly spreading in the waters below, the only sign of your fallen comrade. After a moment, in the cloud of red, a pinprick of a pale, green light begins to shine through the blood. The amount of blood slowly decreases in volume, seemingly siphoned into the ever-growing light. “As the last of the blood is sucked into the light, the water begins to bubble and boil before erupting into a pillar of light that extends into the sky. The smell of ozone and rot permeates the air. As the pillar of light dies down, you see a figure, humanoid with long, visibly broken and distorted features floating in the air above the water, at eye level with you on the bridge. “It’s wearing the garments and the flesh of your fallen comrade, but as it turns its gaze upon you, you know that this THING is not them. Every fiber of your being rejects the presence of this creature and the foul energy radiating from it and the familiar-looking book in its grasp. Its gaze still leveled on you, it opens its mouth as if to speak as a shrill shriek resonates through your minds, painfully forcing you all to your knees. The creature then turns its attention away from the bridge and immediately flies off towards the southeast, faster than your eyes can follow. “After a few minutes, you’re able to regain your footing and the psychic ringing in your mind has mostly faded, although the smell of ozone and rot still remains. You each notice that you all are bleeding from the ears and eyes, although there is no obvious wound and, once wiped away, the bleeding seems to stop. “Due to witnessing the birth of the Dark Foreteller, you each take 1 point of insanity.”

[@cageybee7221]

@@omega0678 i did eventually end up restoring the campaign with mostly new players, and the player with the necronomicon.

[@allananderson6343]

A man who's brave enough to call Steven Universe a lesbian pony show has earned my like and subscription.

[@DenoftheDrake]

Welcome! Your subscription will help me deal with the death threats 😂

[@pawekoodziejczyk6781]

@@DenoftheDrake stay strong brother

[@bowiesensei5574]

wheres the lie

[@Dtfdowntogetfunky]

@@DenoftheDrake bruhdukka stay strong against the threats

[@adamsawyer5936]

Im a bit of a brony and this gold fucking KILLED me! That is, the most accurate ostensible analogous I could ever imagine.

[@Incarosster]

Has anyone else noticed, that the more the message of a show or game is "Goodness, kindness, and respect for others" is, the more "Jerk, bullying, and respect for no one else" the fanbase is?

[@Exarch_Of_Justice]

"Yare Yare Daze" Its true.

[@caolanochearnaigh9804]

@@Exarch_Of_Justice Dafuq does that mean...?

[@youshouldntadidthat7691]

@@caolanochearnaigh9804 jojo reference. Think it means good grief or something in Japanese. I also think that that person has never felt the touch of a woman/man/eldritch horror of incomprehensible gender

[@caolanochearnaigh9804]

@@youshouldntadidthat7691 Jojo reference? I'm only on Battle Tendency! Please don't spoil Stardust Crusaders for me...

[@adamf.charles5857]

I think it might be linked to complex of moral superiority, that come of enjoying morally upstanding media

[@higashikatajosuke9324]

The worst part is, there's a lot of potential in making a gem race for DnD homebrew. There's a lot of diverse types with specialized abilities to make for very flexible character creation.

[@cactusadams7752]

There was a race of crystalline people in 4e but for some dang reason they never converted it 😭

[@felixhenson9926]

Agreed!

[@gabrielfrancisco7161]

The whole concept of the show could work for a very good DnD campain. A species made out of light projecting from rocks, able to use magic or advanced technolgy to work and fight, and their abilities can change according to their gemstones, is a really cool and creative idea that could be used for an RPG session. Honestly, I really wish they explored this sci-fi element in the show more.

[@kytheres379]

Earth genasi...??

[@klom89]

"It sound like Little Pony, but with lesbians." That is precisely the show in a nutshell; zero exaggeration. You got it spot-on.

[@gracegaylord9025]

Well, rock lesbians with a lot of trauma and one smoll boi but yeah lol basically the show

[@mateo4508]

@@gracegaylord9025 i mean everyone in su has trauma,the gems,the dad,steven,maybe even connie,so yeah,but a lot more trauma

[@pyrobomb3161]

Except in mlp the bbeg doesn't always get a slap on the hand and gets told to be good Such as a literal child getting turned into a garden ornament

[@MrRobot-0]

@@pyrobomb3161 yeah they realy fucked up with the finale.

[@gameramaproductions]

I haven't seen any MLP to compare haha, are they that similar? I did enjoy SU... but that doesn't mean I think it's perfect by any means, the story is very flawed :P but I liked the characters, the environment art style looks great, and I think the biggest strength is the show as a musical, the songs are fantastic and catchy

[@DaZebraffe]

If you think leaving Garnet's description at "Square Mom" pissed off the players, imagine how us fans of the show reacted, having one of the best characters reduced down to two words that barely even encompass a portion of what she is.

[@pinkdiamond1847]

And how she only pointed out Pearls negative qualities as a way of insulting the DM. That hurt me personally because Pearl is a character that I relate to alot I also share alot of her flaws and have suffered trauma in the past (obviously not to the level Pearl has I've never been involved in any wars) I kind of get the vibe that she just doesn't like Pearl because she's white coded. Though I agree with casting Boblin as Amethyst since in my Amethyst is the biggest Jerk in the show not that I don't like her as a character but she is more of a Jerk than Pearl in my opinion.

[@charlottewalnut3118]

Technically Garnet is three characters as they are a combination of three separate personalities to be fused into one personality so long as they are working in sync the two personalities form one major personality yes?

[@T-I-M-E.42]

@@charlottewalnut3118 only 2 minds, a blue gem with precondition powers, and a hot headed red gem designed for fusions.

[@lord_boneman]

Besides, the fuck does “square mom” even mean? Is she not cool? Is she a Karen? Or are we talking fucking geometry now?

[@pinkdiamond1847]

@@lord_boneman I think the joke is that all 3 gems act as Stevens mum's and since garnet has a square head she is given the nickname of square mom.

[@darkstarofchaos2138]

When I saw the thumbnail, I thought it was just going to be a player trying to befriend all the villains. The reality was so much worse.

[@pogggaming4470]

Honestly a player trying to befriend all the villains would be better and funnier then what we got

[@cactusadams7752]

@@pogggaming4470 yeah someone playing D&D and going for the pacifist run 😂

[@pogggaming4470]

@@cactusadams7752 I mean here is my idea for a campaign that any one can do, there is 2 paths, pacifist, and genocide, pacifist is sparing monsters and enemies, even bbegs somewhat, and genocide is a standard killing monsters, but it has consequences, like starting to become corrupt and kill normal people and bringing the world to ruin

[@pablomenendez2319]

​@@pogggaming4470So... something akin to Undertale, perhaps?

[@pogggaming4470]

@@pablomenendez2319yeah

[@Flame-rp6yq]

“Rose Quartz of the Crystal Gems” I cringed so much that my esophagus tied itself into a noose

[@Flame-rp6yq]

It’s always cringe when someone tries to put in some character from a completely different universe in TTRPG Unless it is a character that you are writing about, or one that seems to fit into the world, or if so, try and make it realistic and change certain stats and abilities to fit the level, race, and class Yes, with this you may have to get rid of some things so it would fit if you REALLY want to have your anime vampire-werewolf fallen demigod Angel who is the step brother/grandmother of the BBEG Idk, I don’t know anime, sorry, but I am interested in different cultures, it’s just to many people are close minded and stick to their lanes without broadening their view I have actually heard of a few good ideas in anime, it’s just people take it to extreme levels and get so upset when their special snowflake character dies, yes, it is sad, but there is no need in pounding your fists on the table until Satan himself comes up from the cracks in the earth to slap you and tell you to shut up!

[@GTS_LTS]

@@Flame-rp6yq yeah I can agree with you guys.

[@haku8135]

I wasn't expecting it to be that blatant. The second he said that I responded "Ohhhhhhhhhhhh god not one of THEM." It's not even a shitty OC!!!!! And of course she just made herself a fucking GOD.

[@Alex-pw2cl]

same

[@cedricallman9733]

No joke, i was drinking my coffee while hearing this and where and heared it, i literally spilled some of it by that shite

[@m.shields1270]

Ok 1: Their aliens, not even human. Why does skin color matter. 2: Looks like we all know who Karen’s least favorite gem is. Seriously she was practically dunking on Pearl. Even I know she’s stronger than that. 3: Wtf was that copypasta she posted!? She sounds unhinged. 4: I knew that muh gender and sexuality would get brought up somehow.

[@charlottewalnut3118]

Aren’t they shape shifters who can change what they look like anyway

[@m.shields1270]

@@charlottewalnut3118 they can change shape, a majority just choose not to. But they always retain certain characteristics. Color, notable features, etc.

[@Thedragonlover95]

Thankyou for clearing that up

[@KiraSlith]

I gotta see that pasta she posted. That sounds like some top tier azz hollery.

[@Cheetahgirl_Studios]

And on the topic of skin colour... WHAT SKIN COLOUR? Every Gem has a very noticeable unnatural colour. Blue, pink, red, purple, yellow, green, orange... they be over here looking like Crayola crayons. Why would skin colour matter with an alien race that has such a massive range of unnatural skin colours?

[@TheGenXGeek]

I have the rule, no children allowed in my game. This "person" is a child.

[@derinedala5032]

Calling Karen a child is an insult to several children I know who are much easier to play with.

[@bigmansmallboy]

Oi, that’s an insult to children. I got a 14 year old in my game that’s way fuckin better than this person lol.

[@thehelmethead4883]

She's a toddler

[@theinquisitorisamage1653]

Acts more like an infant to me

[@RealCoolstriker64]

TBH, I think a “gem” could be a cool idea if the gm allowed it. They have much less than normal HP, but can recover from zero hp after a turn or two of good roles. That would be so cool.

[@animorph17]

I once got to play a Tomb of Horrors campaign where the DM challenged all of us to comb through every splatbook and come at him with the strongest, most rediculous, most overpowered minmaxed characters we could think of. With the expectation that they will all die horribly either way. My offering for the challenge was "Thresher" a build that focused on the 'severing' rules for tearing people's arms and legs off. Makes up to 4 attack rolls at a +24 to hit at level 10, and then the target needs to make a DC 40 fortitude save or one limb of my choosing is crippled and unusable. I thought this would tear me through every single encounter as some unstoppable nightmare for the poor DM. Wanna know what the very first fight in the entire campaign was? A gargoyal with 8 arms. I smashed apart four of them, and then instantly died to the multiple rending attacks he threw in return. "Tuche dm, well played." The undisputed master of that campaign was actually the guy who came in with a farmer and lots of money, because he just drowned the whole dungeon in cows.

[@SebasTian58323]

This is literal perfection

[@rararasputin8608]

​@@SebasTian58323 "And the winner is..." *Looks at the rats which have been polymorphed into cows.* "Farmer Jedd?" "Well ya look at that, better get back to the farm, Nelly can only cover so much."

[@theslungus1000]

I'D LOVE TO PLAY THIS.

[@AndrewChumKaser]

"Drowned the whole dungeon in cows" was not something I was expecting to read today.

[@THEGRUMPTRUCK]

In 3.5 one of my old GMs did the same thing. I made a Dread Necromancer. Went through the entire tomb, did everything possible, never once took damage, and absolutely crushed the entire game. He was pissed afterward.

[@ToaVentron]

I can't believe this guy wouldn't let anyone home brew a bionicle. I mean, warforged are right there

[@rararasputin8608]

I too would like a campaign where my goal is to save Mata Nui and kill unknown creatures.

[@maryanntheconqueror]

The sad part? The idea of humanoid crystalline forms could have been really fascinating if just not copy-pasted from SU. SU's not the only one that has used this idea--Houseki no Kuni has a similar premise for its main species but handles it in a different and unique way. I think it would have been very interesting to try and take inspo from that if allowed in the campaign if it was a genuine attempt at making something cool and new (while still with appropriate limitations)!

[@rararasputin8608]

Like someone said in another comment, it could be used as a caste system of sorts or provide certain abilities, helping create a new society!

[@Cheetahgirl_Studios]

Holy- I forgot about that series! Bro that could be such a cool campaign!

[@Wolfeur]

Also, a crystalline humanoid race already exists in D&D: Shardmind (granted, nothing like in SU but well…)

[@erichvondonitz5325]

Lands of the Lustrous handle the gems species kinda amazing, not to mention that the unqiue character traits

[@Cheetahgirl_Studios]

@@erichvondonitz5325 You can also have a LOT of fun about the fact that the characters can crack in a DnD game. It’d be a super fun mechanic to implement, and would encourage smart and creative combat strategy from the players to prevent an untimely demise.

[@tsifirakiehl4250]

Rabid fans of animated children’s shows are honestly a little scary. They can’t be reasoned with. You say: “characters aren’t at fault for things they were mind-controlled into doing,” and they hear: “I wholeheartedly condone child abuse.” (Yes, I do speak from personal experience; why do you ask?)

[@majinism5582]

She didn't even make her own character, she LITERALLY ripped a character (a fairly major one if you're aware of the show) and just gave them a skin tone change ( a peach color to black) like so many Tumblr artists

[@Allantitan]

Exactly hell a Steven universe d&d game sounds fun on paper if done right

[@majinism5582]

@@Allantitan I know

[@TheScorpion0081]

Then she literally typecast the other party based on race after race bending Rose. The lack of self awareness is real with this one.

[@Cheetahgirl_Studios]

@@TheScorpion0081 Hmmm yes the ignorance is strong in the Karen.

[@shadedias5563]

... Suddenly my knight version of Doomslayer sounds like a ripoff now that from Doom Eternal he has a greatsword...

[@johnnyawe1469]

I can't believe that Karen was such a snowflake that she'd go off on a fiery tangent for something as small as saying "Brothers".

[@some_shitposting_idiot3023]

Sjws hate anything that implies gender or has gendered words

[@smile-tl9in]

@@some_shitposting_idiot3023 SJW arn't a thing she's a Karen.

[@Another_Hibiki]

@@smile-tl9in They are real and are going to pick your foot in bed at night

[@smile-tl9in]

@@Another_Hibiki *snrk!* sure. Like the gnomes that steal socks. Thanks for the visual at least

[@cheeto.burrito]

@@Another_Hibiki I hope they give my toes a good deep clean

[@ssfbob456]

The DOOM reference was put of place, because the Slayer absolutely *CAN* shoot a hole into the surface of Mars.

[@DenoftheDrake]

he *DID*

[@donovanmahan2901]

"You can't just shoot a hole into the surface of Mars" **Objective: Shoot a hole into Mars**

[@hellacoorinna9995]

@@DenoftheDrake Doomguy is also a descendant of BJ Blaskowitz.

[@aduckwithayoutubechannel]

Boblin was probably my favorite character. The OP didn’t tell Karen off for her actions, and Karen, well… Karen was Karen. At least Boblin called her out on her bullshit.

[@Cookie-ct1fn]

As a Steven Universe fan, I apologize for literally everything.

[@notarealchannel9629]

Steven Universe is so wholesome, and then the fandom is so, so empty. Lol.

[@TOUGHEYES]

I am not surprised with your Fandom.

[@mr.budderpie3538]

We're it so easy

[@sandwichmonster7067]

Don't, it isn't your fault that other people feel the need to act like shitheads.

[@paxtonfairbanks9216]

Its ok man. Their sins are not yours.

[@dakotasan8719]

As someone who likes Steven Universe, this woman made me do my best Sokka impression.

[@MoczoUno]

That's rough, buddy.

[@vipbeef2174]

Oof

[@clonedelta22]

I like you immediately.

[@HavocTheWendigo]

Agreed

[@JimmyBonez]

Same. My forehead has a big red mark from how many times I facepalmed.

[@JackBlack-qn7us]

Drake: "I'm going to drag you down with me whether you like it or not!" Me: *Clicks on another video* "Pathetic."

[@DenoftheDrake]

Foiled again!

[@hag8752]

Was really into Steven universe for a while, loved the retroactive redemption of rose where she was perfect for them because she had developed and changed and so the series is uncovering the issues she had, like growing up and realizing your parents are human and made mistakes instead of being the perfect examples you wanted to live up to when you were younger, you instead become scared of ending up like them. Until you accept their part of you and you’ll be “like” them, but they doesn’t change the fact that you’re “you”. A powerful message for many children and teenagers even young adults who need help figuring their life out. An amazing story riddled with classism and abusive relationships along with a hero complex main character though brought out some horrible people.

[@crystalizedunity500]

Honestly, if I wanted to play a Gem from Steven Universe, I would tweak the plot like so: Say I wanted to "play a Pearl". I would have the character's name be Pearl, and be an escaped servant from an extremely tyrannical kingdom. Servants and guards are divided into groups named after gemstones. Pearls are personal attendants, Jaspers are one of the sections of the army, etc. Many things could be cut for simplicity, like fusions. Gem weapons? Nope, actual weapons. The story can just be about overthrowing the Diamonds/Queens and saving the kingdom. As is obvious from this blurb I have never been a DM, but this tiny little blurb makes more sense than playing black Rose Quartz and expecting people to go along and magically know the OP abilities of the Crystal Gems.

[@lawrencehook8760]

Great work again

[@rararasputin8608]

Nice! It does get me thinking... how would one make a 'Gem', custom lineage? Sure, Custom Lineage sounds great and all, but maybe more of an actual race and not the kind that can get a 20 stat at Level 4.

[@rararasputin8608]

@Aveera Whitestone Sounds like a decent plot point, with them representing power or rarity, which in turn leads to discrimination within said community.

[@justbearit8968]

spittin facts

[@erichvondonitz5325]

I can imagine Pearl holding a fucking Crucible from Doom

[@lectordreadwood3273]

Karen: "Oh no your characters are alive but in captivity you'll have to use new characters to free them" Me who's seen the first few seasons of SU: Oh no I see where this shit's going OP: enter Garnet, Amethyst, and Pearl Me: Yup fucking knew it, let me guess the orphan kid is Steven

[@spectralumbra1568]

The orphan kid being Steven went right over my head, but yeah you're probably right.

[@edwardtrooper7027]

And not going to lie what she did in the end got me a bit peeved, she had the gull to do this huge guilt trip in the ending with this massive text wall(bet she typed it out as soon as she left the group massively triggered and crying his eyes out and raging) to tell them "Everyone is dead and your characters are to and its all your fault!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hate you all!!!!! I hope your happy you SCUM!!!!! REEEEEEEEE!" Its like a little kid breaking their toy when someone wants to play with it toy just to say "If I can't have it then no one can!" these kind of people get under my skin too easily. I was hoping to hear an epilog with the OP and friends saying they are still playing together and act like this never happened

[@mojomaelstrom]

Imagine your DM expecting you to binge-watch THEIR favorite tv show to know how the character YOU'RE PLAYING would act.

[@777Looper]

Imagine your DM expecting you to magically intuit their bizarrely warped impression of a TV series that you've never seen or even heard of in order to know how to play "your" character.

[@artyomsaveli9681]

I'd pull a Sayori if I had to go through with that.

[@PrincessNinja007]

@@artyomsaveli9681 Before or after the DM pulls a Monica?

[@thegrandxbunny2073]

@@777Looper Even if they did binge watch the show beforehand (Which is highly unlikely), Karen got so much wrong just for the purpose of being aggressively OP.

[@Lord_Numpty]

Like the twat who made his players play Curse of Strahd with League of Legends characters and complained about 'expecting your characters to act otherwise'?

[@glasshorse6893]

jokes aside a SU homebrew could work fine, you just need to actually define the gems with proper stat blocks. that doesn't even seem too hard cause... well, like races there can be different gems with different base stats, and differences in those stats from actual classes. Karen just forgot that other people other than her can homebrew ideas

[@DiamondYoshi101]

Boblin: "You never mentioned it before and how is a shield a f*cking weapon?" *Angry Captain America noises*

[@AllyOJustice]

_Naofumi has entered the chat_

[@ScootsLounge]

After playing Xenoblade Chronicles, I could see how a Shield could be an effective weapon (nevermind the fact that Reyn's has a knife and Tora's has a whole host of different weapons crammed into it)

[@akaiyoru2681]

I mean, yeah...shield is a weapon. Mostly used in with another one. You can do some stuff with shield too. But I would really just use it with a sword or a mace...or something other one-handed

[@exaltedfalcheon1793]

@@ScootsLounge N0w It'S r3Yn T1mE

[@caolanochearnaigh9804]

@@akaiyoru2681 Yeah. You could shove someone down a flight of stairs with a shield, or bash their brains in with it.

[@pedrolgg8360]

"How is a shield a weapon" It's not correct neither incorrect, it depends on the type of shield, because there are rounded spike shield use in the African wars around the 1400 and those where use as weapon and shield alike, a secondary weapon for being correct. But there are European shields such as the Roman one made to be a great full body defense to accompany the lances and spears. So as the character Karen was base off has a round mostly looked like a Norwegian barbaric viking shield, it was not meant to be a weapon, max it could do was knock people out, and it's heavily base on the individual's strength. So yeah, the guy was right, just not the best word option there xD

[@dyldragon1]

Pathfinder 2e has shield weapons, and even feats and runes made specifically for attacking with shields.

[@pedrolgg8360]

@@Niop_Tres Technically Caps shield, isn't a weapon by itself, it's just a really hard shield, but Cap has such strength that he can make a concussive weapon out of it.

[@JMObyx]

I'm particularly fond of the Spiked Pavis.

[@stevenschnepp576]

If it's a Norse round shield, it has a boss in the middle that's pretty much designed to hit things like a club.

[@redking36]

I don’t know if it needs a spike but a shield can certainly be used as a weapon. I think you can definitely give someone a concussion with them. I bet it’s more hefty than a sword too, so maybe the edge of a shield could go some considerable damage too. There’s even a meme of someone saying “tell me how this grass tastes, little man!” and knocking someone out with a shield. He hit them with the face of a big shield though. You could probably also shove someone or their arms to try and mess up their stance. I don’t know if it would be good for a takedown, but controlling your opponent is advantageous and you’ll see people grappling and wrestling each other to the ground in shows like Knight Fight. They use kicks and strikes too. It’s a fun show to watch.

[@1vandread]

Karen sounds like the type of Steven Universe fan that would harass and threaten a fan artist for making a character less fat, to the point the artist attempts suicide........ Yes, some psycho SU fans actually did that.

[@liamdalemon1525]

also like the worst enemy designer ever. 20 THOUSAND FUCKING HEALTH?!? WHY WOULD ANYONE MAKE SOMETHING WITH OVER 20 TIMES MORE HP THAN THE TERASQUE?!?

[@experiencemaster1743]

Don't forget after said artist tries and ending up in hospital those same people went all over socials trying to accuse them of playing victim

[@Atumblingblogger]

Yeah, but it turns out that artist was faking the suicide attempt. Both sides were wrong.

[@radiofreemurray5008]

@@liamdalemon1525 new bbeg idea "swarm of terasques"

[@atheist2025]

Or the kind to not put to of their characters tougther even though there was nothing

[@Mask0fFate]

“They aren’t asexual, they’re all lesbians!” So, who’s gonna tell Steven’s dad?

[@operation_turtle]

the fact that she sees pearl, a character that suffers from debilitating ocd, survivors guilt, anxiety, and likely autism, as someone who is just manipulative and selfish says a lot about how she views people. pearl is not an easy character at all, but she is struggling with a lot. i dont even watch steven universe and i know this character better.

[@alexthompson8977]

pearl is manipulative and selfish. She also has those other characteristics as well

[@asteisdrakos]

She could have been seen as that. I can see why people can see her like that. Thing is, she grows during. She never gets rid of it completely, at least up until the end of season 4 which is where I couldn't watch more (at least not yet) but she does try (and succeed) to improve herself and do better instead of just being a static character.

[@alicetheponyactress3030]

Definite agree! Pearl is my favorite character and it feels like a stab in the heart to see her misrepresented so horribly and treated like a villain. True, she has flaws, but she’s not evil. Every SU character has flaws. That’s the point of the show. I also agree with the autism headcanon. As an autistic myself, it’s just fun to think about. I never really knew why I loved Pearl so much, but once I saw ToonRuins’s video I figured perhaps I saw a little of myself in her.

[@somerandomguywholikesULTRAKILL]

222 liked

[@WinterPains]

While I agree, she also has a manipulative and selfish tendency, tho it was likely a learned behavior.

[@The1nvisibleJeevas]

Did this person outright forget that Pearl can produce full-bodied independent holographic projections at will and also carries around with her a pocket dimension for item storage?? I’m sure I’m forgetting others but holy hell Pearl was not weak or useless, she just suffers with a ton of mental issues

[@Cheetahgirl_Studios]

Also... THE WOMAN COULD SHOOT FIREBALLS FROM HER SPEAR! AND SURVIVED FIGHTING IN AN INTERGALACTIC WAR! Edit: Ah, I just remembered. She’s also an engineering whizz. She was able to construct a fully operational mech suit out of nothing but scrap she found in a barn for crying out loud. AND she was able to make a spaceship that worked as well, from the same junk. I think Karen only watched the first season, because I honest to God cannot understand how else she could get Pearl so wrong.

[@kagato23]

Yeah. Also pearl clearly has the most levels in fighter, dex build. She’s the dps, garnet is the tank (also a fighter,‘but when spit a diviner wizard and a Barbarian) and Amythyst as a Druid/Rouge combo. (Greg is pure bard, Steven is Bard / Cleric)

[@Cheetahgirl_Studios]

@@kagato23 Mhm. Ofc there was a very easy solution to Karen’s campaign: let the players design their own Gems. For flavour/backstory, if they’re familiar with the world of the show, you can even let them play as a ragtag gang of Off Colours. Just make the Gems a Shifter subrace, and have certain Gems count as certain subclasses.

[@twilightnight6283]

What would be better A: A Warforged bard that uses a trumpet. B: A skeleton bard that uses a trumpet

[@DenoftheDrake]

I would have to go with the skelly

[@TyoAtrosa]

A Dragonborn with a vuvuzela, duh.

[@cheeto.burrito]

Stealing that for my next character

[@animekittykitty]

I once had an NPC that was a kenku bard who played the flute. It took my players 3 sessions to figure out the joke.

[@pokethan7904]

@@animekittykitty Idk if I’m just really stupid but that has gone straight over my head😅😅

[@artykeldeo]

the concept of a homebrew crystalline-sentient golem sounds so fuckin rad. i wish the player had a little more creativity instead of just copy-pasting the abilities of the gems into this campaign.,,,

[@cactusadams7752]

The Canopic Golems in Candlekeep Mysteries are kinda like that! And I think some powerful gem dragons can use their scales to create gem-looking humanoid constructs

[@shadowpyre]

This... This right here is why the memes of making fictional characters in D&D should stay memes.

[@DenoftheDrake]

Or at least be self aware!

[@nonymouswisp8176]

Well memes are based on reality.

[@WhiskeyPatriot]

@@nonymouswisp8176 remember, art imitates life and life imitates art

[@byronsmothers8064]

Change the character to work within the rules & restrictions of the game, don't force the game to accommodate the unchanged character.

[@KertaDrake]

@@WhiskeyPatriot and each level of imitation has diminishing returns on being good.

[@mikefang9995]

"Think a Warhammer Necron but adorned with trumpets for the doot-doot fun times." *silence for 3 seconds* "OP I don't know who you are but I hate you." *ALL the hyena cackling*

[@DenoftheDrake]

Glad you liked that bit lol

[@AMPMASTER10]

@@DenoftheDrake I know you hate DMPCs, but would one be bad if they don't take over the group, act as the chosen one, or be overpowered. What if they meekly follow the group, act in the support roll like a healer, or only as a guide?

[@aweshetdima2157]

@@AMPMASTER10 It could work, provided that they're aren't abused. I had a Jesus character playing a pacifist Life cleric healing and supporting the party since no one wanted to be a healer. Granted, they do abuse him and I use him to lessen their Murderhobo instincts by threatening to make him leave if they keep killing people at a whim or mere insinuation of an insult. He's also a major target for some battles, making my players act more like a party rather than one-man killing machines.

[@AMPMASTER10]

@@aweshetdima2157 Thanks

[@AMPMASTER10]

@@aweshetdima2157 Sounds like a good idea.

[@cursedbeasts9991]

NGL an rpg purely set in a more well-thought out Steven Universe, well, universe, would probably be cool. Also I mentioned it in the reddit comment i left, but Karen seems to hate the character of Pearl. Pearl actually has a spear weapon, and an ability to summon hologram copies of her, and can store items inside her gem. Steven Universe is a fun show, fandom aside.

[@cnkclark]

Pearl has some very powerful and unique abilities, she has just been very badly damaged emotionally. Heck, a significant portion of the show's trajectory involves uncovering how and why Pearl is the way she is.

[@bobdrooples]

I don't know you, but I hate you.

[@cnkclark]

@@bobdrooples Bright side is, now you can relate to how everybody else feels when they meet you.

[@dungusbungus559]

​@@bobdrooples If anyone ever asks me why we can't function as a society I'm citing this comment as an answer

[@RealCoolstriker64]

1:15 brony here: can confirm. It’s literally just MLP except they don’t have the excuse that friendship is *literally* a magical force of nature

[@LiPolygon]

As a fan of Steven Universe this story was extraordinarily painful.

[@Timetraveler2411]

my entire body feels like the disembodied form of this story had taken a clothes iron, and burned my skin together into a fetal position

[@Cheetahgirl_Studios]

I just started cringing when Karen made the other Gems. Especially when it got to Pearl. That sucked, man. Pearl wasn’t necessarily my favourite character when I was a fan of it some years ago, but Good Lord Karen did her dirty. Also, tf Karen? “Square Mom” for Garnet? C’mon I know that Garnet’s basically LIKE a mom to Steven but she’s a lot more than just that.

[@starbird3939]

I am so sad Steven Universe had this bad rep for its toxic fanbase. It was something I could bond with with my bff’s. Also, the last season is a really interesting take of what happens to the hero after there is no need for a hero.

[@DenoftheDrake]

It's weird that the shows with the alleged best messages create the most toxic fans!

[@LtCWest]

@@DenoftheDrake As someone who comes from the MLP fandom, you have no idea how right you are. Its like people mold their entire personality around the show and thus every bit of criticism is always seen as a personal attack, thuse people have lost their touch with reality.

[@kotaro07]

Fandoms are a curse.

[@obsidiankrystal3308]

I love steven universe but the fanbase is so toxic I almost stopped watching because of the fanbase. I remember once someone drew the gem ruby a human who is white. And.they.flipped out. Saying she would CLEARLY be black and writting her as white is racist. On top of that I called jasper (look at google images or my pfp to get a look of them) he. Because she looked, sounded and acted like a he (lowkey looked like raditz) They fucking flipped out on me. I like the show, its music and background animation is beautiful and i love all the characters but my god the fans make me ashamed that I like the show

[@toongrowner1]

so true, and glad to see I'm not the only one who actually enjoyed steven universe future.

[@gabrielathero]

Hmm, having to play temporary characters to free your actual characters is actually an interesting twist imo. But this needs experienced players and DM.

[@connerthewubbzler1062]

Dunce:"I DON'T Understand, why can't I play as Vegeta from DragonBallZ!?" DM:"The literal first thing you did was kill the other party members, fly off into orbit, then blow up the planet!" Dunce:"THAT'S WHAT HE WOULD DO! WHY Can't you let me have this!?"

[@jrepra]

I'm not a fan of bashing a Fandom, people like what they like. However, I will bash on people like her who try to force ther likes onto others regardless of their opinions and wants. Like my goodness, common decency.

[@littlegiantj8761]

"Things you would normally find at a furry convention? No." [Gnolls, Tabaxi and Tortles have left the chat]

[@mbr5742]

Reminds me of CSI Vegas Catherine Willows: "Well, I like hairy chests, but I'm not about to bop a six-foot weasel

[@dakotasan8719]

I think they meant things like Chakats and Sergals. But still a funny joke XD

[@thefairybug40]

GOOD

[@MrGamernova]

This + Fizzy Pop becomes a thing Tieflings: I don't feel so good.

[@cnkclark]

[Kobolds and Lizardfolk shuffle nervously]

[@DecKrash]

What's even funnier is that I'm a SU fan, and can point out things Karen got wrong with the show on her own. The gems ARE, for all intents and purposes, sexless, but they take on female-like forms, and for some reason, do address each other as she/her. But that still doesn't excuse her hypocrisy when the players "mIsGeNdErEd" their characters, and when she assigned them based on ethnicity, after having made her character a "black" Rose Quartz. SMH. Talk about one seriously toxic fangirl.

[@DioBrando-yk5up]

And the fact that gems don't die when they are cracked just glitch

[@Cheetahgirl_Studios]

@@DioBrando-yk5up Exactly. If that were the case, then Lapis would’ve been dead from the get-go.

[@maxxpower3d6]

Compare DBZ's Namekians, who also reproduce asexually, resemble human males and refer to each other as "he/him".

[@thespacebirb1743]

“How is a shield a f***in weapon?” Captain America: “what am I? Chopped Liver!?”

[@dance_ofThaDEAD]

The core failing of the session was that Karen was trying to fit a SU peg into a DND hole and unless you want to make your own TTRPG game (MLP has one apparently) it will never work

[@nevermore7285]

Mlp both has one of its own and has Ponyfinder which is a specific Pathfinder campaign setting that adapts a lot of things from MLP into a Pathfinder style setting.

[@jacquelinealbin7712]

There are other systems, like Masks, that would probably be better suited to that kind of world and power type, or Kids on Bikes/Tales from the Loop for the human characters in the Steven Universe setting. 5e is not the best option for every idea, and hate that people keep trying to shoehorn it into every game idea they have.

[@CareerKnight]

I'd say the excessive railroading killed it before that could become a factor.

[@BossStar1995]

Or, if you just try to change it to where it does fit in.

[@pancakes8670]

I can kinda see why MLP has one. It's owned by Hasbro after all, who hold a monopoly on all board games lol

[@tristanmoors7835]

how are the words "my little pony but with lesbians" so problematic yet so true

[@DenoftheDrake]

I live to be problematic

[@kemix1006]

@@DenoftheDrake Good man...dragon...dragonman.

[@Landuskir]

Definitely the best quote from this video.

[@Visman117]

He's a drake you buffoon

[@tristanmoors7835]

@@Visman117 erm acshually a drake wouldn't have wings, the fact he has four legs and wings, makes him a dragon. he even says it himself, he is a dragon

[@raptordaraptor7861]

"I don't know about you, but that sounds like My Little Pony but with lesbians instead of horses." - Drake Bro, that is comically well put!

[@raptordaraptor7861]

Oh dang, everyone else already commented on it. I now feel like a fool.

[@DenoftheDrake]

You are no fool, sir. You are just one of many wise people.

[@thegreattotemaster]

"My little lesbian, my little lesbian..." :P

[@starbird3939]

I mean... He’s not wrong. They do win people over with love and friendship.

[@Xiatter]

My Little Pony is already that.

[@Flemmli1]

A Steven Universe campaign sure sounds like fun if it's appropriately fitted and not forced on people who don't know/don't care for the series.

[@edsainmuramasa4751]

The whole "you can only play people of your color" schtick really irks me. I'm a human who can play human characters (or non-human characters, but there's never a problem there), I don't see other skin tones as some alien species I can't possibly relate to.

[@errortryagainlater4240]

Exactly. The people who say this stuff, on a subconscious level, DO see other skin tones as "other" and then project that onto other people. I have some ex-friends who were crazy about this stuff and it was insanely obvious from the way they talked what the issue was. They've just convinced themselves that ackshually, it's the right thing to do and they're totally not just xenophobic 💀

[@Tony_Cardoza]

@Jacqueline Davis yup, it's asanine and racist. Self-titled liberals and progressives are always the biggest racists. Most people don't care about that stuff and do what they want and treat people the way they want to be treated. Liberals are obsessed with race, it's always on their mind, meaning they have tons of guilt. They will always excuses other races behavior no matter how heinous because, "Oh, they don't know any better." It doesn't get more racist than that.

[@noods1406]

As a Steven Universe fan, I apologize on behalf of the whole fandom.

[@mischief2344]

yeah some of them are fuck wits i like the show but yeah im not apart of the fandom

[@roboticminer8843]

Me too

[@doglover5791]

Yeah same... But dear god do I still want to know how Karen would describe other characters from the show...

[@noods1406]

@@doglover5791 peridot just gets reduced to “small lime goblin”

[@doglover5791]

@@noods1406 oh my god 🤣

[@supercat765]

"Rose Quartz of the crystal gems"... About as subtle as the Kool-Aid Man in platemail smacking an artillery shell with a sledgehammer. I liked steven universe, I had made Steven universe OCs, And THIS is CRINGE.

[@doomguy19931]

When I saw the title, I immediately was reminded of the time the Steven Universe Fandom bullied someone into almost offing themselves because a character wasn't drawn fat enough.

[@despairhope9882]

Why is every time a Shows/Games/Movies have some kind of good message and it gets a fanbase some how the fan base is usually extremely toxic and takes the show at face value.

[@Mikethething]

I knew a guy who was obsessed with Bugs Bunny, knew him for like 10 min, weirder than a brony TBH

[@DenoftheDrake]

That's a new one!

[@WaveShock007]

Was it Garth from Wayne's World?

[@Mikethething]

And the reason she didn't want people to know the lore is cause she's never seen the show, she just read erotic fanfic about them

[@thehelmethead4883]

Your probably not wrong on that one.

[@Nukestarmaster]

He was probably somewhere on the spectrum, one of the more common symptoms is an obsessive fixation on something.

[@spectralumbra1568]

"Things you'd normally meet only on a furry convention is also automatically out... No... Just no!" Tabaxi, kobold, lizardfolk, dragonborn, kenku, aarakocra, tortle, and most monsterous races: :(

[@spectralumbra1568]

@Msw studios I did say "most monsterous races" so not necessarily goblins. Hobgoblins and bugbears are kind of ape-like though.

[@thesoy-sorcerer9469]

Ik all those from terraria lol, anyway I think he means the sort of animal hybrids which hold no parts of either species

[@AnonEMus-cp2mn]

I remember hearing horror stories about furries who insisted on their one fursona character, completely ignoring So much creative potential for all manner of PCs and NPCs that still have incredible animal qualities, like I can name a few off the top of my head: An old conversational dragon that is both fascinated yet weary of other races, only learning about the world second-hand from travelers/adventurers. A desert Sand Viper Naga who’s snake-like strike can thrust a spear like 15 fricken feet. A wolf that carries the sword & scabbard of its fallen Ranger master, who originally intended the wolf’s spirit to be infused with it if it fell in battle, but fate would have the opposite happen. Like if you really wanted a fox character, pick something like a _Kitsune_ or _húli Jīng_ from actual mythology. A dark and superstitious DnD campain set around classic “Yōkai” lore would be a great change of pace from Tolkien-inspired fantasy.

[@spectralumbra1568]

@@AnonEMus-cp2mn I made a dog druid once that through magical means became a shifter. They didn't really look like a furry in a traditional sense, sort of elf-like in their normal form, just a normal dog in wild shape, and when shifting kind of looked like a bit like a hairless werewolf. They were originally a ranger's companion, so one of your examples reminded me of this character. They were based on a combination of the Japanese story about the old man that made the cherry blossoms bloom, who had a white dog, and pagan folklore that involved dogs guarding places where fairies live. Making characters based on folklore is fun.

[@punklover99]

If you need to replace a character just take the poochy route. "I have to go now, my planet needs me" -your player character was killed on the way back to their home planet

[@drippy42069]

Being a fan of Steven universe myself, I can barely bring myself to listen to this... just... *shiver*

[@DenoftheDrake]

You can do it!

[@TyoAtrosa]

It hurt fo realz. Like driving hot nails into my ears without the mercy of deafness.

[@Cheetahgirl_Studios]

Tell me about it. I’m just so thankful Spinel wasn’t dragged into it. I dread to think what Karen would’ve made her into... Hmm actually now that I think about it, a jester themed villain who can break the laws of physics to mess with their enemies would actually be a really fun villain to write... I’ll be right back I’m gonna go design this NPC.

[@Code_E_the_Goober]

I used to actually be kinda into SU, it was relatively funny at parts, and had good messages in it for a kids show. This person physically, mentally, and emotionally gives me the pain of stubbing my smallest toe on a vertical Lego piece.

[@thegrandxbunny2073]

Just the description of that scenario hurts.

[@Arcticmaster1190]

That pain is indescribable.

[@TheWaterdog6]

I LET my character get killed once. I kept pretending to be distracted by the outside, and gave vague regards to how much my health was. I wanted out. But the group I was part of was just awful. Seriously. I was trying to play an egyptian monk with lots of bandages like a mummy, and the DM GF decided that my character would be way more interesting if he was a gay monk and wore like pink stockings and stuff. This is a different character btw, but I kept getting pestered and even the DM kept agreeing (Because he gave his girlfriend everything she wants) to the point I made him gay so they would leave me alone. If that was not bad enough they also would make me try and be steriotypically gay and flamboyant, despite my monk being serious and not really romantically or socially inclined. So when I managed to kill of this other character that DERAILED their campaign due to the GF friendly fire crit killing me (With enough force to decapitate me) I just enjoyed it and let it all happen. I was punished by the DM for dying despite it was a friendly fire kill, but at that point Pandoras box had been opened already and I frankly did not care.

[@DenoftheDrake]

I may have to steal that character concept!

[@johnnygreenface]

Forced sissification 😭

[@TheWaterdog6]

@@DenoftheDrake By all means, at the end of the campaign they made his end story be he made a giant pink pyramid with a giant knitted cover on top of it that smelled like roses. He decided to become a lich... monk? they killed the character for me and added insult to further injury.

[@hellacoorinna9995]

Or you could've said "I know you're brown-nosing becasue you wanna shag her, DM. But f*ck off, it's my character."

[@greenstarlover1]

10:30 - girl, you could've just taken the shield spell. It's literally the same. And if she's not a spellcaster, there is always the magic initiate feat.

[@jakeand9020]

Honestly, I think the basic premise (as little we got of it) could be a cool campaign. PCs are crystaline beings from an unknown elemental plane. BBEG is a very powerful being from the same plane intent on converting the prime material plane to it's crystaline nature. Obviously, you need to let the players make their own characters, or, if you really want, at the very least let them choose from a decent variety of premade characters. It could make for an interesting, fairly unique and fun campaign. Just not likely in the hands of a first time DM, and definitely not if you're trying to make it into some altruistic kids tv show.

[@dragadum964]

"Some Dragons horde gold, *I* horde internet cringe." First video, but this man is hilarious.

[@saintlytiger7504]

The second I saw Steven universe I knew this was going to be a train wreak but I don't expect this

[@Visman117]

It's like a car crash on the side of the road, you can't help but look

[@zhanehoyle8269]

It sounds like Karen hasn't gone as far as season 1. because no one has called rose flawless since finding out she "shattered" PD(herself). Okay, maybe five eps of season one.

[@ChaotiX1]

I'm listening to this an hour before my first character creation session. Cheers everyone!

[@DenoftheDrake]

Have fun!

[@ChaotiX1]

@@DenoftheDrake I dont know if I can. The moderators name is "Rose" :o

[@cpa4able]

@@ChaotiX1 oh no

[@dinonuggies4962]

@@DenoftheDrake check out the owlin race for 5e canon

[@DANTVSVERGIL]

I think the difference between Karen’s character and the Shadow Blade Assassin is that Karen’s character is almost completely Homebrew, while the Shadow Blade uses all official classes and weapons which also requires to be 20th level and Assassinate, so if the Tarrasque goes before you, Shadow Blade is S.O.L

[@AlexThePyroshark]

That, and it's likely that the DM approved of the base abilities, and the players mixed them/planned with them to actually get results. They didn't just pull new abilities out of a hat because they wanted to be in the spotlight. Hopefully.

[@DANTVSVERGIL]

@@AlexThePyroshark we can only hope

[@kylethomas9130]

Original description of the character did sound like a munchkin build, hexadin is a scary class

[@DANTVSVERGIL]

@@kylethomas9130 Hexadin’s are really scary. The Shadow Blade Assassin can be scary to, but at that point you’re multiclassing into 4 classes.

[@tobor88]

That part about killing off your own character really brings me back. While I never performed this sin myself, I have decided to have characters leave the group so I could play other characters and start over. The first time was with my warlock character, Garret Greycastle. The first Warlock I ever played. This was in the Princes of the Apocalypse adventure module. I wont go into the whole story (because a KZbin comment isn't the right place for it) so I will summarize and go into more detail if someone asks. From the beginning of the campaign, my character faced abuse not just from the enemies, but from the party as well. The first thing that happened when he met another member of the party (a barbarian. I hate barbarians) was him getting his head slammed into a table. I had wanted to play a charismatic wise guy that conned people out of their money, but every time I tried to make some jokes during RP (Which the other players where doing as well) I got punished for it. On multiple occasions other players would attack me for having the audacity to try to speak up. And in actual combat the DM would always try to start combat with me in melee range, and as a warlock with hardly any armor class that lead to me being downed nearly every combat encounter. This eventually lead me to take feats to increase my AC like shield master and Medium Armor Master. (The DM straight up asked me why I wasted my feats.) Naturally, all this abuse changed how I roleplayed as Garret. Instead of being a charismatic roguish type, he was instead a standoffish introvert who didn't like anyone in the party. To make a long story short, our party was captured by the earth cult (so the DM could take away our magic items) and we where separated through out the earth cult complex. Garret was the only character not thrown in a cell with the slaves and with the help of a good NPC named Sunnie (his future love interest) managed to rescue most of the other PCs and all of the slaves. Since the other PCs were a DMPC that no one liked and the barbarian that constantly attacked him, Garret decided to only save the PCs he found in the slave pens and leave them behind. The other PCs went along with this because we had a lot of people who needed protection and we couldn't bring them through the enemy base. However, I knew that when the barbarian caught up with the party (He escaped on his own) he would try to kill my character regardless. I knew this because he has nearly killed my character several times and no other PC tried to stop him. So I had Garret take Sunnie away from Redlarch and they started a life together in Neverwinter.

[@deweysmithey567]

The type of person to be obsessive over that show is the type who always subverts any established cannon to 'fix it'