They are not exactly B&W cameras. HW2.0 is RCCC* & HW2.5 is RCCB* --- * In a camera each pixel is represented by 4 photoreceptors, with a combination of filters: C=Clear, R=Red, G=Green, B=Blue. Multiple same filters for a pixel increases the light sensitivity. With RCCB, there is no green filter to improve nighttime light sensitivity, and green can be calculated to make a color image for the dashcam. via teslatap.com/articles/autopilot-processors-and-hardware-mcu-hw-demystified/
@StevenPeeters4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for pointing that out. I was simplifying indeed, but it does look B&W on screen. But the question still stands whether it would be easy to swap out the filters on the camera if they are hardware, or whether they can be updated via a firmware update. And if so, would it really make a difference...
@DerKatzeSonne4 жыл бұрын
@@StevenPeeters I guess they simply display them black and white because some "off colours" would bring a lot of people complaining about them and thinking they are broken :)
@TechnozSki4 жыл бұрын
I replaced both side repeaters picked up over the counter at tesla service center 120 USD each easy swap. The latest triple cam is $170 and restricted part. I told the service center to install it while its in the shop now getting the infotainment and FSD upgrade. My vehicle is a 2016 MS75D with AP1 MCU1
@StevenPeeters4 жыл бұрын
katze_sonne that kind of makes sense. But the new cars definitely have an off color to them...
@DerKatzeSonne4 жыл бұрын
Steven Peeters maybe not as off as these cams would be or they just didn’t bother to create a color filter making it look at least not completely off, because these are the old cams and this is the lowest effort support 🤷🏼♂️
@dominolehmann82274 жыл бұрын
Btw the radar changed with ap2.5 to bosch/continental. Repeater cams are plug n play and can be ordered if wished :)
@mitchstb4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing all of those details! Can’t wait to get mine 😀 Enjoy!
@StevenPeeters4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. I thought it would interest a lot of people to know what exactly you are getting when doing this
@zaferroni4 жыл бұрын
All done now and up to date ,looking forward to you next video ,just was wondering has your car got 8 cameras now.
@StevenPeeters4 жыл бұрын
My car always had 8 cameras. Every car that has AP2.0 or above has 8 cameras
@zaferroni4 жыл бұрын
@@StevenPeeters Hi how are the road tests going ? been calling Tesla service to get my HW3 fitted but its the same old story , call us in 3 to 4 weeks time .
@StevenPeeters4 жыл бұрын
zaferroni sorry to hear that. Road tests are ongoing. Before and after comparison should be published tomorrow late afternoon CET. Just got the 36.11 release so it now should stop for traffic lights as well. Lots and lots of testing to do with all the new stuff.
@Marvelbrothers173 жыл бұрын
How did you fix the side camera angle? Did they fix it remotely?
@kgel55424 жыл бұрын
I had mine done on Thursday.(17/09/20) in Ghent. However, I did not have the calibration when I first drove it. Either something is not right yet, or the service center did that for me. Will call them on Monday. There are quite a few changes and I am not happy with all of them. So far the biggest disappointments are the quality of the new screens (far interior than before) and the fact that traffic lights do not get picked up... Will call the SC tomorrow and find out more...
@StevenPeeters4 жыл бұрын
Do you have the right software version? Calibration can be done by the service center as they test drive the car. it only takes about 10km if you are on the right road.
@kgel55424 жыл бұрын
Bedankt voor je antwoord. You are right. Thee calibration was done by the SC. Got a message this afternoon that an update was available. Had to park the car very near the hotel to get WiFi. (we're on a short holiday) and after installing 2020.36.11, indeed it now reacts as expected. Have not come across traffic lights yet, but so far it recognises stop signs which it never did before. On the other hand, it seems to find traffic cones all over the place, while in reality, there are none. Heb jij ook de indruk dat de kwaliteit van beide schermen er flink op achteruit gegaan is? Bij mij is dat behoorlijk erg...
@67768234 жыл бұрын
Congratulations, delighted your long wait is over welcome to 2020 Tesla
@christiankohlhaas62734 жыл бұрын
"Over a year" - cute. Make that 3,5 years for me. :) Two more weeks for me!
@StevenPeeters4 жыл бұрын
HW3 is only a year old. That’s what I’m referring to. As said in another video, I’ve ordered close to 4 years ago.
@Scott-sm9nm4 жыл бұрын
I think the wi-fi is 5 GHz capable now too.
@alconaft43434 жыл бұрын
yes, but range is low, AP have to be next to the tesla.
@baddrivers41464 жыл бұрын
I am looking forward to getting an upgrade, as well. Eventually. Maybe it will go on sale for Christmas? :-)
@paolofinanza3 жыл бұрын
please! is your tesla model s 90d?what year? thanks Paolo... very good!!
@StevenPeeters3 жыл бұрын
Very early 2017 P100D
@paolofinanza3 жыл бұрын
@@StevenPeeters 👍👍
@paolofinanza3 жыл бұрын
My Tesla is 90 D late 2016! Do you think it's the same thing?
@FlorianKleinlercher4 жыл бұрын
In the UK we lose the radio component (AM/FM/DAB) completely, you didn't mention that in your video? It can be added back (around 500 Euro) from October via an additional daughter board, apparently.
@StevenPeeters4 жыл бұрын
I mentioned that in an earlier video already. Yes, that solution should be coming in the next months, but will most likely be at an additional cost.
@kgel55424 жыл бұрын
One does lose DAB. The original radio is analog. MCU2 van only deal with digital signals. One can replace the original radio with a digital version, but it is far from simple. Besides it takes changing one software line. Chances are that SC will not comply...
@kgel55424 жыл бұрын
However TuneIn allows for most radio stations. But one can no longer change the channel via the steering wheel buttons..
@daniel_baker4 жыл бұрын
I picked up my new MS last week, it's night and day!! Enjoy.
@StevenPeeters4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, you too!
@chrisashley15503 жыл бұрын
Since you have mcu2 now. Did you get the fsd beta button
@StevenPeeters3 жыл бұрын
Of course not. Nobody outside of the US has any chance of getting that button for a very long time to come due to the atupid UNECE regulations
@zaferroni4 жыл бұрын
Hi how are the road tests going ? been calling Tesla service to get my HW3 fitted but its the same old story , call us in 3 to 4 weeks time .
@StevenPeeters4 жыл бұрын
Do you have a Model 3 perhaps? Those still have to wait. Comparing before and after AP test coming this afternoon. Working on final details and editing.
@zaferroni4 жыл бұрын
@@StevenPeeters No, model X 100D Build November 2018 we had EAP when we picked up the new car at Tesla show room in May 2019.
@StevenPeeters4 жыл бұрын
zaferroni maybe the backlog is too big already? Dunno. It shoild be available if you order it with mcu2 combined.
@zaferroni4 жыл бұрын
@@StevenPeeters As I understand it the car is just over a year old and will have MCU2 The only thing I don't have is HW3 and the new front magnetic motor ,but happy with the 2 induction motors which don't whine .
@joshkozminski82354 жыл бұрын
Gefeliciteerd Steven met de upgrade! Fijn dat je deze informatieve filmpjes maakt. Ben heel erg benieuwd wat je ervaringen gaan zijn ;-)
@pavelsunny14 жыл бұрын
From those 3.5 hours of labor how long was the FSD upgrade? Probably most of the time was for the MCU?
@StevenPeeters4 жыл бұрын
FSD computer was more or less plug&play, with the exception of the rear camera cable connection. Don't know exactly, but I'd guess an hour or so
@alittlebitmoore4 жыл бұрын
How did you request the MCU2 upgrade ? I already have HW3 which was fitted in Gent about 4 weeks ago, that was purchased 3 years ago on the website. I got CCS upgrade done through the app as Service/upgrades and typing in CCS upgrade then they sent me details and price by email and a Ranger came out. Please can you tell me how you applied for the MCU2, I am guessing the app Service/upgrade ?
@StevenPeeters4 жыл бұрын
I was contacted by the Service Center as a courtesy. Normally, you should request it via the app or call them.
@alittlebitmoore4 жыл бұрын
@@StevenPeeters thanks. Will wait until fm option available as my mcu1 is working fine at the moment. Thanks for the video.
@down4life4 жыл бұрын
Did you lose your Premium Free and have to pay per month ?
@StevenPeeters4 жыл бұрын
No
@aligardner103 жыл бұрын
If you have the FSD computer, do you also need MCU2, or can you have FSD computer + MCU1?
@StevenPeeters3 жыл бұрын
Apparently, you can have FSD with MCU1. But I don't know if you are missing any features that way. The traffic lights are displayed, but I don't know about other objects and animations.
@sanjaygupta6664 жыл бұрын
You should state the cost of the MCU2 upgrade in the description
@StevenPeeters4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion. I didn't mention it, because I already did in a previous video. But I've added it now to the description, with the disclaimer that this is the price in Belgium and it will be different for other countries due to VAT
@duanehenry50704 жыл бұрын
upgrade version is really awesome . Love to drive
@kiedlm4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steven, again an absolutely interesting and useful video. As I have also purchased FSD a while ago, I hope now also to receive FSD and MCU2 upgrade. Did you get informed by TESLA via mobile app, that you can upgrade? thx
@StevenPeeters4 жыл бұрын
As I mentioned in the announcement video, I'm a bit of a special case and Tesla called me. You just need to book an appointment in the app for it.
@mrsoccergod50013 жыл бұрын
What year is your model s
@StevenPeeters3 жыл бұрын
Production early January 2017
@daily4u4 жыл бұрын
Dag Steven, gefeliciteerd met je upgrades. Heb je van het SuC ook gehoord met welk tempo ze de HW3 upgrades gaan uitvoeren? Is er een grote wachtlijst en hoe snel willen ze daar doorheen? Worden de upgrades ook nu in NL uitgevoerd? Zo niet, weet jij toevallig wanneer ze daar starten met de upgrades. Laatste vraag; verscheen de update mogelijkheid in je Tesla app? Dank!
@StevenPeeters4 жыл бұрын
Zoals ik in de andere video zei, ben ik een beetje een uitzondering en heeft Tesla mij persoonlijk gebeld. Maar je moet gewoon een afspraak in de app boeken. Aangezien iedereen nu tegelijkertijd dat wil doen, is er intussen wel een wachtlijst en is de lokale stock reeds op. Er moeten nieuwe toestellen van de US komen, voor zover ik begrepen heb.
@mschorer4 жыл бұрын
Congrats!!!!!
@IhsanDogan4 жыл бұрын
I dont think this is a allignment issue. Myself and other Tesla owners have exactly the same.
@StevenPeeters4 жыл бұрын
They are looking into it. It should show the side of the car imho
@IhsanDogan4 жыл бұрын
@@StevenPeeters Interesting. Please let me know what they said and if they fixed something.
@cbn13624 жыл бұрын
Can you save video clips from sentry mode and use cameras as dashcam through USB noe with AP 3.0?
@StevenPeeters4 жыл бұрын
Yes, that shpuld work now. Still need to test that. But I have a real dashcam in the car so probably won’t use sentry mode
@cbn13624 жыл бұрын
@@StevenPeeters would you explain why? I have blackvue installed in my car but only 2 channels so when someone keyed my car in the side we did not catch on film.
@StevenPeeters4 жыл бұрын
CBN you have a point there. But as far as I understand, you only get the last hour of footage before it gets overwritten. That is pretty much useless when you’re parked and something happens during the night. Or am I missing something here? It also consumes a massive amount of energy compared to a Blackvue. I’ve heard people complain it can draw up to 10% overnight 😲
@cbn13624 жыл бұрын
@@StevenPeeters you have fair points as well regarding power usage. I thought the frequency of overwriting depends on the size of USB penn. Not sure since I have ap 2.5. it is still interesting to know if it is possible to use this feature now after the upgrade. :)
@StevenPeeters4 жыл бұрын
CBN I will try the Sentry Mode as well of course 😉
@breakfixfever4 жыл бұрын
Do you really think it's worth upgrading a car with a nerfed battery pack (forgetting the part that you probably needed it to continue producing up to date contents for your KZbin channel and changing car would be much more expensive)? It's a dilemma or mine, upgrade or not to upgrade, since the resale value of the car that was lost after having the pack nerfed, won't get much better because I have an MCU2. I'm more tempted into waiting for the MCU1 to die. It will cost me the same, annoyances aside🤷
@StevenPeeters4 жыл бұрын
If you can trade in the car, that is always the best option. But also the most expensive. I would have loved to do that, but unfortunately, due to the huge price drop 1.5 years ago, that is impossible. So, this is the best option now to make it bearable. The KZbin channel is only a very small part of the reason. It's not like I'm getting enough money fro it to pay for the upgrade. Not even close! But I do have to live with the car and I did pay for FSD almost 4 years ago and I have a dying MCU. I would refuse to spend any money on reviving a non-working MCU. Even if the memory problem is fixed, it will still be slow, the browser won't work, you still don't have Sentry Mode etc. More and more feature will require an MCU2 and that is why I think that even in your situation (and not knowing your financial capabilities, of course) it is worth it. It's an eye opener. I would suggest trying to get a test drive in a car with MCU2 and see how it works for you and then decide.
@breakfixfever4 жыл бұрын
@@StevenPeeters In these pandemic times, if my MCU1 dies, I don't mind keeping the car off the road until the MCU2 is available. It's pre-AP, so all the FSD related goodies are of no interest to me, which reduces the number of advantages of upgrading. Indeed, the MCU1 isn't the snappiest, but I do find it usable and in my case the browser works, most of the time!:P Btw, if the dashboard is now "just a screen", can you still reset the MCU while the car is in motion? If yes, how long does it take to have it available again? Completely loosing all information about what's going on and with the car in motion seems a bad idea, but I guess Tesla folks know what they're doing .... right?;)
@StevenPeeters4 жыл бұрын
youlgsxl concerning the reboot, I did it all the time to get both screens black. Freaks out passengers 🤣. Car just continues driving. So yes, that has never been an issue and isn’t one now
@breakfixfever4 жыл бұрын
@@StevenPeeters call me old fashioned then 😁 Btw, 2700EUR and the the old MCU stays with Tesla, right?
@StevenPeeters4 жыл бұрын
youlgsxl yes indeed. You can take it home for the wonderful price of ... well, basically the price for the new one. Wanted to use mine in a domotics project, but not at over €2000 for an old screen. Raspberry Pi with big touchscreen will do at much cheaper cost
@dominolehmann82274 жыл бұрын
I did the mcu2 upgrade incl. Ap3 with eap only because of the horrible mcu1 slowness and freezes and even if the problems with nand are well known and I've got still warranty for over an half year left Tesla doesn't do sh.. ^^
@StevenPeeters4 жыл бұрын
Same here. Didi the MCU2 upgrade because MCU1 was dying anyways.
@holysmokescharles4 жыл бұрын
Did they give any kind of discount for the MCU2 upgrade if the MCU1 is failing and still under warranty?
@davidjohnson27824 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that you lost the radio!😂
@StevenPeeters4 жыл бұрын
I mentioned that in the announcement video already. But there is a solution coming in the next few months. Probably at additional cost, sadly. Once there is more concrete information on it, I will let you guys know.
@MarcNotenboom4 жыл бұрын
Congrats! Don't look too much in the camera while driving... I am looking forward to your review. Not convinced about investing into it yet.
@gregorheinrich3 жыл бұрын
Thanks - you can increase the speed of a slow mcu 1 also with a factory reset. See kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5u8eoFurryZr9k
@StevenPeeters3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but only for a little bit and only very temporary. Tesla has also tried to remove the cached Google Maps tiles and that had also a temporary effect, just as removing all your previous navigation destinations. They all help a tiny bit, but the fact remains that MCU1 is just not workable AND you're not getting any updates anymore. MCU2 upgrade is a no-brainer these days, especially since the price is a lot cheaper now than what I paid for it
@GolfTesla3 жыл бұрын
@@StevenPeeters Indeed, the webbrowser still seems slower than it was after I first got the car (however I just did a test with a very weak LTE signal. Have to repeat that when the LTE is stronger.