Michael Fremer discusses RECORD LABEL MASTERING TRANSPARENCY+his take on the MOFI MASTERING RUMORS!

[@Masticator93]

"I've only been stumped once" - Famous last words of Michael Fremer's credibility.

[@vcp93]

Love how Fremer gets all bent out of shape by his detractors, yet he has no problem disparaging others that don't necessarily share his views. I have a great deal of respect and appreciation for much of what Mr. Fremer has done for the VC over the years, but not a fan of his attitude toward folks who don't "bend the knee".

[@bjrnsjohnsen1278]

That’s actually spot on! Massive ego there, or maybe Fremer just did too many drugs in the 70’s.

[@virginraydevito]

All these analogue only heads can be debunked with a simple AB test. Make a digital recording of a top level analogue only record, and play them A/B, if they can't tell the difference, it's debunked. The mastering engineer is all that matters, and the final sound has nothing to do with an analogue only signal path, UNLESS you're playing the original tape. Although I would love to hear an analogue audiophile compare a dsdd recording of the tape to the actual tape, and see if they can tell the difference (of course they can't). Once it's put on vinyl there is no sonic difference inherent in the platform.

[@robertorodriguez2609]

he is a lawyer and that explains it all, can't question them.

[@katebloggs8243]

Oh man, he is such a schmuck. He actually makes gloating so much fun - for everyone but him. Such a ridiculous egotist that he won't stop shooting up the saloon with his pea shooters, putting holes in his boots and oversized white cowboy hat every time. And then he rides out of town thinking he won the day again. Too fucking funny.

[@budsmoker4201120]

I love the guy but he definitely his old man syndrome

[@enolcmelca]

"I work in the industry! I am entitled!" also "I'm a journalist"

[@katebloggs8243]

Hahaha, yeah right, a journalist! OMGosh.

[@dkeener13]

If Michael says he can tell 100% if there's digital anywhere in the chain, why wouldn't you just ask him which MOFI releases he has listened to and reviewed have a digital step and which ones don't? He should be able to clear all this up, right?

[@jayedwards4787]

Because Fremer can’t do it

[@alexanderpetrenko539]

It was because of Fremer that I bought my '85 German white vinyl White Album, possibly the best record in my collection.

[@adamhunt4462]

You've been putting out some great interviews lately. Great stuff! I'm getting my popcorn.

[@jodygoeler586]

It’s always great to see Michael Fremer. Thank you.

[@stevewestman7774]

He was a lot of fun. I really enjoyed talking with him.

[@billyelliotx]

My whole thing on this, if there are digital files in the chain I'd rather stick to SACD for lower cost. If it's just a tape copy of the master, that's fine for me as it retains the analogue chain. Some digital records are unavoidable, because the source files are digital themselves, I'm fine with that as you can't change that.

[@analoguecity3454]

Good luck finding titles!

[@analoguecity3454]

@@crapmalls I'd rather own my music than let people who controls a server on a computer! You have nothing and they can edit, even delete titles they find offensive! I wanna OWN a piece of history than to borrow it! And it's already started they are censoring titles of online books they deem "offensive" (Tom sawyer for instance)! We MUST protect physical media, it's not all about the quality! It's about owning a piece of history that they can never take away from you! Ala Mandela effect!

[@analoguecity3454]

No digital can "clone" an all analogue signal, no matter how high the resolution! It's scientifically impossible! And you can hear it! Analogue is natural, digital is a "robotic" copy ! And it still pales in comparison!

[@joesmith4443]

@@analoguecity3454 DSD can pass an analog signal natively all you need is a low pass filter! Digital scientifically can it’s called a DAC digital to analog converter. So can Analog be converted to Digital. It’s called a ADC. Vinyl is a “lossy” format that’s mastered differently. How does it work in a Analog chain. Very simple the analog signal is what’s used to press the vinyl. Lower floor noise & ridiculous ultra low distortion makes vinyl sound cleaner and better. Welcome to 21st century.

[@joesmith4443]

@@analoguecity3454Sony developed DSD for in-house achieving their master tapes when they bought Colombia. The master tapes are rarely taken out due to their brittleness and fragility. They are often copied to other tape Or Digitally to prolong the life of the master tapes. Most vinyls reissues or remasters are on better DAW software not exclusively on an analog boards. It IS scientifically proven and done. Mofi will NEVER be allowed to those original masters tapes from labels like Sony and taken to their studios.

[@rachelsghost]

Well done Steve. I'm a Fremer fan for sure. Your channel is red hot right now. Keep up the great work. 🥰

[@mazzysmusic]

Tell Fremer Mazzy sent me ✌🏻

[@stevewestman7774]

I’m on it.

[@dustincollman9231]

Excellent discussion Steve!!! I very much enjoyed the entire thing. Can't wait for the follow up chat.

[@stuartstark]

Mike from In-Groove > Michael Fremer

[@MelindaMurphy]

I loved this interview. Michael is very funny and I'm now inspired to go to the gym. 🤗 Mobile Fidelity should probably be like Michael and start defending themselves. Their lack of communication makes them look guilty as charged. Mobile Fidelity (along with AP) has made some of the best sounding records in my collection and I would hate to see them go down if these rumours aren't true. Another great interview Steve! Congrats on all of your success.

[@danielryan8319]

He is very funny, and fiery! This is great

[@stevewestman7774]

Thanks so much Melinda. I wish MOFI would announce and clear this up now and not in 2 weeks. It may be the longest 2 weeks in VC history. Enjoy the gym. Lol.

[@robertt7238]

Or maybe no one gives a rats ass what Michael Fremer thinks.

[@JBLClassic]

@@robertt7238 if Michael Fremer can identify with almost 100% accuracy if there is digital in the chain, by listening, he knows this answer already. This could’ve been asked point blank because he has listened to all of these One Steps and has reviewed them.

[@JingoLoBa57]

@@robertt7238 obviously you do… lol

[@Jamko1970]

Fremer is one of the best! Excellent interview.

[@stevewestman7774]

Much appreciated. Thank you so much.

[@fakrbob4099]

Damn, you are always bringing on the best guests. Keep it going

[@stevewestman7774]

Thanks for watching. My pleasure. I will keep bringing it. Mr. Fremer was a blast to talk too. I had so much fun.

[@katebloggs8243]

Hahaha, I am usually anti-schadenfreude, but Mikey Fremer is the GOAT for me enjoying him getting his just dessert. And he just won't shut up! Which is so great. It just gets more and more delicious.

[@mazzysmusic]

The og uk revolver both mono and stereo are fantastic better than anything else 😎

[@preservedmoose]

I think a lot of us are not into crate digging and looking for original gangster versions. Maybe why so many companies exist for reissues.

[@jazzlyrics4988]

The original UK stereo of Revolver is not very good. It sounds flat, compressed and quiet and as a result, is not very exciting. The later solid state cuts (starting with -2) are much better. If you're interested in The Beatles, you have to check out the youtube channel of "Parlogram Auctions". The owner does truly excellent reviews and SQ comparisons between different pressings. Recommended!

[@JBLClassic]

I have some random US 70’s copy of Revolver that sounds incredible

[@zackamania6534]

@@JBLClassic yeah those are very good. The silver label Emi records are nice

[@gustercc]

@@jazzlyrics4988 i ❤️ that channel. That dude, to me, is one of the preeminent Beatle recording experts. I’ve almost collected his entire vinyl recommendations list and cd list.

[@chadhartery3982]

Mike from the In Groove Is going to the source he is travelling to MoFi on Tuesday to get this cleared up. As usual Mr F is clear as mud.

[@BronsonOsborne]

Michael Fremer is awesome and tells it like it is

[@katebloggs8243]

@@BronsonOsborneTells it like it ain't! He was soooo wrong about the core things he based his house of cards on. Do you seriously take him seriously after the MOFI thing? I mean, so many of us saw through him from Day 1, but some didn't, which is OK, but NOW? You need your head checked if you weren't being sarcastic 😂 If you were being satcastic: High Five!

[@BronsonOsborne]

@@katebloggs8243 SURE DO

[@thesurfacespins]

Thanks for putting this together, it is very much appreciated. A very nice talk!

[@stevewestman7774]

Thanks so much. It was a lot of fun.

[@happyhippythevinylguy]

Great video Steven!! Enjoyed Mr Fremer mad respect for him and what he's done!! Your channel is really blowing up Steve I'm glad to see it ✌️🎸

[@kgobrien1]

Well done interview trying to wrangle the og master, who never lacks for verbiage and is always fascinating.

[@xprcloud]

YOU FAILED to detect with your ears which vinyl is digital and which analog.....for YEARS

[@passthehatrecords6107]

Nice talk guys! I finally feel like the fire about MoFi is going down and we can soon expect to talk about music again. At least they started to label their issues on the website and I do hope that it will put a full-stop to the hype. However, they got a lot of (bad) publicity, but now have their chance to get the things right after all. Thank You for this initiative to talk with Mr. Fremer (with one m). It was pleasure to watch it. Best, Petar

[@seno2349]

I really like Fremer and his expertise - I just cannot understand his attitude towards “digitally recorded” and so on. I am not sure whether he really did a lot of A-B comparisons to find out whether he really can tell “digital” from “analog” (if done correctly) because he always seems to forget to stress that he also wrongfully accused Apple of having made the Beatles singles box (2019) from digital files - something he had excused for before but, however, still likes to stress that he always can directly tell whether something was cut from “digital” or not.

[@jayedwards4787]

He can’t

[@franciscoop1063]

Over $100,000 spent on his Hifi system, but I think Michael needs to upgrade the $35 he's spending on his internet connection?......

[@poetryonplastic]

There's a lot of not well-adjusted people out there in the various comment sections of the world, seeing the success of your channel I have no doubt that you will encounter them. My personal philosophy is that I always listen to reasonable criticism, but wacky, creepy, or belligerent comments, I just block and move on with my day. Treat them like you would treat a random crazy person shouting at you on the street corner.

[@macdrummer007]

Brilliant! SO late to the party on listening to this one Steve, but equally as entertaining as your last conversation with Michael. "Bulgaria" the best pressing.😂🤣🤣"Michael! You little kidder you!" You guys make a great double act! Keep em' coming gents!

[@stevewestman7774]

Always fun with Michael.

[@harmlessrebel868]

I love Mobile Fidelity and the Eagles On-Steps are by far the best pressings I've ever heard. That said I have always questioned the Original Master Recording thing. I know for sure that the Moody Blues debut was not cut from the original master because the original master was damaged more than a decade before they released it. There was one or two more of their 80s releases that were the same, though I cannot remember which.

[@analoguecity3454]

I love Michael, I like his "tell-it-like-it-is" attitude! In a world where everyone is made of glass , and get butt hurt over truth! I don't think he likes me or even knows who I am but I like him!

[@jasonarsenault3791]

Steve you killed it again, brother. Keep them coming.

[@davidbryanbartlett4071]

everything is or will be DSD unless some rare copy comes along in analog-Thank the heaven that analog is finished no more loss of clarity over dublications

[@markstewart1807]

All this talk of prestige boutique pressings makes me think,are standard original pressings in some actually better,despite being massively cheaper,but obviously don't have the one-upmanship that many Audiophiles crave.

[@Sthunderrocker]

I think that the early Tech limitations that created the very discreet panning in early stereo albums, such as the Beatles, actually trained the ears of a generation or two to expect that kind of directionality and unique mixing. It's not surprising that we went quad after that. Now today, much as a highly resolved flat picture is more desired amongst the population than say a 3D image, more cohesive multi-channel mixes have taken Center Stage. But for some of us, discrete directionality will always be the version I go back to. So the Beatles stereo remixes will never replace the OG stereo mix for me.

[@JeffersonDD]

Amazing video as always Steve! Let’s hope they come clean soon!

[@therevrockinrollin]

Just make the damn mono box again. My statement on MoFi will have to be adjusted.

[@stevewestman7774]

Thanks for watching Rev. How’s church today? Rocking?

[@happyhippythevinylguy]

I'm glad I'm watching this video I like how he's explaining it!! I'm not as pissed off now..lol you know if someone in your neighborhood beats you go back to them and try to get your money, if they won't square the deal you come back in a week or two and steal their lawn mower...lol what do you do if you think you've been beat by a major company?

[@canjo7301]

The following comments are from the Steve Hoffman Forums and I partially quote excerpts. "...before the Beatles box set MOFI had already released 3 Beatles albums...Abbey Road 1980, Magical Mystery Tour and The White album". Long before the Sony F1 portable pcm recorder was released. "The master tape used for Abbey Road was actually the Capital sub-masters and not the original from Abbey Road". "...The Magical Mystery Tour the master used for this project was actually from EMI but this version originated from Capital and was used by EMI for the 1970's reissue. "The White Album...The master tapes used for this project were also sub-masters from Capital". So yet another voice on the topic...

[@dallas_vance]

Kind of goes against the album banner of "Original Master Recording"

[@christay9560]

Great interview Steve. I see some detractors as always making comments about Framer. But yet, whenever I go pick up Framer’s Top 100 selection, they sound great. That’s proof in the pudding. The guy knows his stuff. Nuff said.

[@arize84]

Great interviews man, but wish you could do a bit more research before your guests arrive. For example calling Ryan K Smith upcoming is mis step; he is long established and has a long list of audiophile accomplishments. Same with your comments on half speed mastering.

[@Thevikingcam]

I did call out Fremers BS years ago when he did digital recordings to show how 100.000$ turntables sound different to 5.000$ ones :P That guy is the worst analog world salesman ever.

[@FleagleSangria]

Im wondering why since Michael Fremer can hear the difference between digital and analogue pretty much everytime that he couldn't clear all of this up from the get go by telling us which of the Mofi's since 2015 are digital or analogue? That would have been conclusive and cleared all of this up, yes?

[@Mooseman327]

Uh, no, it wouldn't since it would just be one man's opinion. Kind of worthless. People would either believe Michael Fremer because he was Michael Fremer or not believe Michael Fremer because he was Michael Fremer and we'd be right back to where we started from. MOFI has to come clean and just be transparent.

[@deadandburied7626]

Neat looking turntable in the background, what is it please?

[@stevewestman7774]

Yes thank you. The gear behind me is: SME Model 12 turntable Sumiko Starling Cartridge Aurender N20 Streamer MSB Premier DAC Vinnie Rossi Brama Preamp Vinnie Rossi Brama Power Amp Sonus Faber Il Cremonese Ex3me Speakers Audioquest Thunderbird Interconnect and Speaker Cables Audioquest Hurricane AC Cables

[@analoguecity3454]

Yes, sound quality matters to most of us! But it not all about that alone! A few commenter say "why buy the records, when you can get a file cheaper? "! If you don't care anything about the "art" side of music, go ahead! Why trust our precious music to a server ? They can edit, even delete titles they deem offensive, they already talk about it with books! There's a sense of history and art with physical product, and no one can edit it or take it from you! If you don't like records buy the sacds! Don't let them control our history!

[@deancacioppo4040]

where did you get that diffraction piece in-between your speakers?

[@IntheGrooveSoundtracks]

I’m curious about your statement at the end that the Steely Dan catalog wasn’t actually lost in the UMG fire. Where’d you hear that?

[@stevewestman7774]

If you rewatch my Kevin Grey interview he confirms it there.

[@bobsoldrecords1503]

I think the original issue 45s from Parlophone in the sixties sound better than the boxed set. They sound huge

[@zackamania6534]

NightFly and Brothers in Arms are some of the best sounding records…

[@guidosarducci209]

Michael does a recognizable John Lennon impression! Not just a Liverpool accent. It was JOHN! :)

[@johnbarrington2526]

I love that diffuser

[@chessnord7934]

Did your "Breaking: MOFI: ... Predictioins" video get taken down??

[@guidosarducci209]

But is it a 1st degree analog master of Michael Fremer, or just a digital file?

[@wequirki6165]

congrats on the interview! maybe i can have you on with me one day

[@stevewestman7774]

Yes. That’s could be fun.

[@nickfowler515]

So, given today's announcement, I guess Fremer was lied to about the Thriller one-step. Or he was deceived like everyone else. "They are using a copy of the master tape." Turns out that means they used the tape to make a DSD file, not cut the lacquer.

[@stevewestman7774]

Yes. MOFI has been copying the masters to DSD sine around 2015 and mastering and cutting the lacquers from the DSD file.

[@Abyss60]

always a pleasure to listen to mr fremer honestly it is the person that I appreciate the most, sure videos and various sites. you are the best person for the interview.

[@quikspecv4d]

Another great interview Steve! Good info too.

[@andysmusicden]

Another great interview. Thanks a lot.

[@markymo32]

Any word on where the Van Halen content will be sourced for the MoFi upcoming release ?

[@NickP333]

Steve, thanks for this interview with the always interesting, Michael Fremer. He’s not only extremely knowledgeable, but he’s also always such an entertaining person as well as coming off as a straight shooter. It’d be nice if his comedy album, “I Can Take A Joke” from ‘76 was reissued. It’s really damn funny. I hope his new channel “Tracking Angle” does as well as it should. Thanks, Steve and Michael for this fantastic interview.

[@David-by8ev]

Entertaining is of way to describe it. I respect Michael Fremer and wouldn't question his integrity or knowledge. But honestly, being half-through this interview, I find his permanent self-defensiveness and self-promotion a bit annoying. For a guy of his experience and history, why is this necessary? It really distracts from the discussion that every piece of information is accompanied by assertions, self-referenced comments, and complaints about people on the internet. Wish he would be more confident. If you are operating in the field of social media (sic!), you have to deal with all the crap people are posting. If you can't ignore it.... well, that's probably not healthy. Otherwise a great and very knowledgeable guy. Somehow even a legend (that's why I don't get why he's so insecure, in a way..).

[@NickP333]

@@David-by8ev Hey, David. I fully understand what you’re saying, but personally don’t really get that vibe from him. The amount of untrue attacks, insults, and accusations he has received have gotta wear him down after a while, and he naturally becomes defensive about things. It seems to me as if he’s trying to clear his name of some of the rumors that have been started regarding just about every aspect of his life and even worse, attacking his character. That being said, getting involved with social media when you’re a public figure, you need a thick skin, especially when people get to hide behind a keyboard, I’m sure can be difficult to ignore. I’m not saying this to be argumentative in the least either. I respect your point of view, especially because you brought up your opinion and thoughts in a non confrontational way, and that’s how a reasonable person acts, and I certainly appreciate that about your comment.

[@fiercefeline5096]

I have that album, purchased as a cutout at Cheap Thrills for 1.98. It was a shitty pressing. I would love to have a one off from the original Fidelipacs. A reissue could add some funny things like when WBCN's PD played the bit with Danny Frog then got all huffy and said "Sometimes Michael Fremer just goes too far!" I wouldn't be surprised if that couldn't have been a double lp.

[@katebloggs8243]

@@David-by8evBecause he has a mental illness. Some form of Narcissistic Personality Disorder most likely.

[@DC-xx4kv]

There’s no crying in baseball!

[@greencraig8570]

Here's the name I call Michael Fremer: National treasure!

[@AeroModule]

So it's a COPY of the master tape for the one-step. OK. So, which is better for audiophile pedants: an analog source (but a copy) or a digital source of the original master?

[@redgePro]

cannot be answered in such a general way. If the analogue copy is rubbish, then you won't get a good analogue mastering out of it either. If the digital copy (which is high-resolution) is well made and from the original and uncopied master in great condition, then digital will usually be better. Every analog copy is associated with a loss of quality that increases from generation to generation.

[@AeroModule]

​@@redgePro It was more of a philosophical question. The most vehement pro-analog people turn up their noses at digital masters and swear they can hear the difference. So assuming Fremer is right (and god knows whether that's true), then which product is more "acceptable?" If MoFi uses a copy, but keeps it analog, is that better than what the word salad indicates will be a Sony mass-market product that is digital but cut by Grundman from the original master? Do you get what I'm asking?

[@dallas_vance]

Still goes against the Mofi website description of their One-Step, where they state the lacquers are cut from the Original Master tape. Nothing alludes to a copy. "MFSL engineers begin with the original master tapes and meticulously cut a set of lacquers. " Now are they word smithing the begin, to cut, with left out steps?

[@cengeb]

Why is Fremer's audio and video so bad? He changed his AC service to give better sound and video, he made a you tube all about the nonsense. His video on dial up?

[@chrismcc5255]

Jeez. Is there anybody who likes to hear themselves speak more than Fremer.

[@dietchapstick7890]

The last time I talked to MOFI about sourcing, they told me in no uncertain terms that all their records are sourced from tape, at least for albums that were originally RECORDED on analog tape. That would include the Silver Series and the One Step releases. Another thing funny to me is that some of the guys making these videos may not be familiar with the concept of multiple lathes running off one tape machine. Both Doug Sax and RVG famously did this. Running say three lathes at one time is nothing new. It is also possible to make multiple 1:1 copy tapes from an original master, and carefully run those copy tapes as many times as is necessary to cut the required number of lacquers. Really not a fan of rumors based on zero facts.

[@Brian-qg8dg]

Your thoughts on how MOFI can make 40k copies of Thriller as a ONE STEP

[@chrislesnar]

@@Brian-qg8dg By taking a copy of the master tape.

[@Roamany-Jones]

@@chrislesnar Usually a digital copy transferred to tape. Hmmm..🤔🇬🇧

[@VJVIMANA]

This aged well.

[@shakcmusic]

Roxy Music's 'Avalon' is not a digital recording - the multitrack was analogue and copied to 16-bit digital in the early '90s. I think the mixdown tape was digital though. I have the Ludwig cut - might have a punt on this new half-speed master

[@nttng95]

Nice one. Interesting and educational.

[@aaronsmith8265]

So defensive about EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME

[@mikecoffee100]

This was a Totally Awesome video Thank You

[@stevewestman7774]

Thanks Mike. Glad you enjoyed it.

[@Richbroth]

Some research and preparation would do these interviews wonders.

[@richardelliott8352]

it is clear Mr Fremer has made many positive contributions to advancing High fidelity. But one has to wonder if some criticism is earned. In my case, a review where he spoke of some kind of amplifier as magic, and nobody knows how they do it, caused me to doubt his absolute sincerity. Nobody is perfect, I would be a hypocrite to not accept that. I chalked it up to just a stylistic choice I disagreed with, in a review that had no measurements, since obviously someone must know how to build the thing back at the factory . they can't just luck out every time they build or design a product. I stopped following his work. later, attracted by a magazine cover, I saw where he was recommending buying a vinyl demagnetizer , for a not insignificant price. I feel this kind of abuse of public trust does not advance the hobby nor illustrate the critical thinking skills needed for good buying outcomes in a market famous for the occasional deceptive product. I have to admit I slightly enjoyed being one up on a famous expert, and set a grudge against him from such stuff. It might just have been the testosterone talking , a man has to accept and account for such unconscious thinking, because honestly, such actions never effected me one way or another. What did effect me, and caused me to snap out of it, was his solid help in advancing my understanding of a tip cleaner I was using, an attractively packaged fifty dollar clear adhesive blob that seemed a very advanced answer to stylus tip maintenance, but was actually contaminating the diamond with residue if it touched a clean surface.

[@therealbushboy6440]

So Michael Fremer is now telling us that the one steps are part of the MFSL silver series releases!

[@deadquietvinyl]

Is that direct drive TT happen to be that Technics SL-1200G? 😎

[@marcbegine]

Octave Records remaster their Original 4X DSD recordings on LP, can you still hear the difference?

[@marcbegine]

Remastered on LP by Gus Skinas of Octave Records "Audiophile Masters Volume 1"

[@audioguy67]

they were recorded digital from begining no?

[@jazzkatt7083]

Sad that analog planet can be so petty. Michael Fremer is one of the most recognizable people in the vinyl resurgence and he's an invaluable wealth of knowledge.

[@bjrnsjohnsen1278]

And possibly quite impossible to get along with, think they got fed up in the end.. and I can’t blame ‘em.

[@Audiojunkabus]

This is interesting info...very eye opening for certain. Hey, this is my 1st time here, wondering if you are always so enthusiastic. You appear to be very underwhelmed by Michael.

[@bjrnsjohnsen1278]

Most people are and should be very underwhelmed by Fremer

[@malco49]

for all those years i thought analog planet was fremer's website!

[@Frip36]

It would be great if bald guy stopped interrupting. Especially with the already awkward delay. Fremer talks enough as it it. Just sit and let him go.

[@dgross2009]

Very entertaining but still does not solve the mystery. I guess we have to wait for the answers but for the life of me I don't know why MOFI is waiting to answer this simple question. I like how Chad at Analog Productions does business more so than MOFI. He is transparent while MOFI is as opaque as a carbon based black vinyl record

[@JBLClassic]

The answer to whether or not past One Steps are digital can be answered right now if Fremer would just tell us. He can spot digital 100% of the time so he would know just by listening.

[@dgross2009]

@@JBLClassic True

[@therealbushboy6440]

So to make a record with one less analogue stage you have to cut it from a tape with one extra analogue stage! That equals stupid! Also suggests the company hides lots of information from its customers Their silence is deafening!

[@playbackamusicloversjourne8620]

Yeah, I can't get too interested in a MJ release due to his sketchy history. The music is great I wholeheartedly agree.

[@itsjim2875]

Michael - you're the best - Ignore the younger ones who think they are. They've seen too many TV commercials that make them think kids know better than their parents.

[@scottwheeler2679]

So what did I learn? That Fremer thinks it's OK for the audiophile labels to use deceptive advertising and infer the false assertion that their records are cut directly from original master tapes so long as he thinks they sound good.

[@redgePro]

Yes, thats not ok…many collectors don’t know the details behind a record production and they buy mfsl because they think its always AAA

[@trackingangle929]

I learned that you lack comprehension. Where did I say that?

[@daniellogansa8101]

Yes 🤣, although I wouldn’t call their website that deceptive. It’s more unintentionally vague but does mention that one steps are “cut from original master tapes.” Most people buying records, even most audiophiles, prolly don’t need it to be more transparent than that. There’s is just small portion of us that care a lot.

[@daniellogansa8101]

We also learned that Michael is still being defensive and insecure over the ERC fiasco

[@Nick-qf7vt]

@@daniellogansa8101 the ERC fiasco?

[@tonyfafoglia2927]

Mikey bro we love you but stop being so defensive:)

[@happyhippythevinylguy]

I don't think a copy of the tape is a big deal? But that's just my humble little opinion

[@guidosarducci209]

Michael Fremer is probably the single most respected voice in analog audio, and has been for decades. I have always appreciated his knowledge and thoughts, even on the rare occasions when I didn't see things the same way. As an analog enthusiast, I'm delighted and reassured to have him watching over this important audio aspect. Thanks for all the work these many years!

[@lionheartroar3104]

MOFI doesn't like Michael...he must be on to something. Thanks for your work Mr. Fremer.

[@FleagleSangria]

Does anyone seriously think that if Mofi were using a digital step in any of the process that they would have to admit it? Just because they may or may not use it during one stage doesnt mean somewhere in the chain some sort of digitalization can occur. What, is Mike or whomever Mofi meets with going to dig and tear apart all of their equipment to see? lol This entire thing could have EASILY been rectified if Mofi had simply came out with a statement immediately when all of this started in the first place. That they didnt is very telling. They know that their customer base has thought that the Mofi product is all analogue cut and that is the reason why many if not most purchase these high priced lps. And now all the sudden its ok for them to be using a copytape? Do you not see the hypocrisy in the later? The entire thing is silly.

[@enolcmelca]

maybe he will learn that being as relentlessly unpleasant as he is does not make for a good KZbin personality

[@awrogers3013]

So you jumped 45? So soon

[@cengeb]

Might need a better AC line cord, for his router, what year is he in?

[@johnnyalegreworkplace8065]

Conveying an inconvenient truth is tough, indeed.

[@continentalgin]

I don't trust what MOFi says anymore, the damage has been done, but I will continue to trust what reviewers say about sound quality.

[@nervouscough7115]

I think In-Groove has this covered already. It’s all good either way.

[@RF-lz9cd]

You should have discussed the possibility of Chad pressing the Led Zeppelin AAA from the Classic Records metal parts which everyone is dying for!

[@stevewestman7774]

I did and we discussed it. Checkout my interview I did with Chad.

[@Universityofvinyl]

Even if he has the metal parts he still needs to negotiate the rights

[@ab2abblank607]

Yawn. This whole "MOFI situation" is nothing more than Sony getting in front of the story early by...ahem...clarifying that the soon-to-be-released Thriller album is cut from a "master" digital file. Confronting this revelation now gives their "audiophile" talking heads time to mitigate their labeling obfuscation by downplaying the sonic superiority of an all analog cut. When the vinyl community influencers are through with you, the mid-November Thriller release will be hailed as some digital copy, technological masterpiece. DCTM for short. So with respect to the question of analog vs digital...who cares as it is not the point! The one and only point is TRANSPARENCY. Truth-in-labeling is the point. The label is the contract between the producer and consumer. If the album is from an analog or digital source, say it. If it is not, say it. It's that simple. As I've said before, there's going to have to be some form of audio standardization. It's inevitable but hopefully it's voluntary. The companies that truly value their customers will provide a truth-in-pressing decal/certificate in or on every box. Hmmm... Could a MOFI DCTM hype sticker be coming soon??

[@SafeAndSoundTXAudioExcursion]

Agree 100% and I say so here… kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4SwhmeVgr-tp9E

[@trackingangle929]

You don’t know what you are talking about! This situation resulted from the Michael Jackson estate’s control and decision making not Sony.

[@ziggin97]

Mofi must have not paid Fremer off this year

[@PedroMiguel-if3ll]

Better go for DOL reissues, all great jazz records at £12 each album. At least you know where it comes from, a lousy CD recording! 😂

[@austinhunt4260]

Can't. Stand. Fremer.

[@audioguy67]

Don't listen, at least it is good to know what he says

[@BottleneckMoses]

MoFi = NoBuy

[@audioguy67]

cancelled all my preorders...

[@driesanalog4187]

The world is full of liars. I never trusted the MoFi marketing text on their LP's. And I don't trust Fremer too. Analog is his business model - and it's dead.