(Sticky Grenades vs Spike Grenades vs Augmented Drum) Izi swap + Edge Transit + Star-Eater Scales

[@HawkmoonaMatata]

The value is not in the damage, but in the increased ammo refund. Note how Sticky Nades leave you with 9 shots remaining when the boss goes immune (with more to be refunded by Deconstruct), while Spike leaves you with only 4 left.

[@basedlordprime]

Deconstruct is so bussin on this. I got a shin drop with spike/stickey, impulse/ALH/ decon b&s.

[@CrunchyMaggots]

I nabbed a Sticky/Cascade/Deconstruct roll, and it's perfect for the latter two bosses of Warlord's. High burst and never runs out of ammo. Worked amazing for Careraker too in Pantheon. Ammo for every plate.

[@nightismonochrome]

Also what it would equate to, those 8-9 shots left can basically mean 16-17 more shots with stickies (assuming stickies explode perfectly for the remainder). Spike would be just 5-6 more shots with 4 shots left (or 7 more shots on a fresh procc)

[@Based_Shogun]

Good call.

[@ButHehe]

Ammo economy with Sticky is the way. For longer DPS phases, it seems insane. 27s of dmg: 9 ammo, 5 in the mag, and 4 reservers compared to only 4 of spike nades.

[@Cloutwick]

What about just using deconstruct with sticky nades? Makes for a simple strat, but if you have field prep you get even more nades to use

[@id9ndooo776]

Guys it’s all about time, if you have time to empty deconstruct it’s better

[@DaggerSaint]

the nade lol

[@codyschlenker6821]

Cascade and on strandlock, you'll get much higher damage

[@Trevoroxx]

I use sticky deconstruct with field prep. My fire teams arent usuallyn1 phasing and i like to have heavy ammo for boss

[@GamingStar1995]

Sticky Grenades = More Leftovers Spike Grenades = More Damage The difference? The length of the damage phase, and the option to have a damage rotation or just straight up using the GL alone.

[@alfredoj9791]

decontrusct edge transit is gettin nerfed in final shape so its safe to dismantle

[@biojeffo]

What is reloading it while shooting?

[@spetmember8799]

Deconstruct. It's essentially triple tap for gls

[@Timb_bottomtext_]

lucky pants word of crota + edge transit when

[@fieryflame6676]

A rotation with Sticky nades + cascade + deconstruct would be cool to see

[@thomasdmr]

Cascade make the weapon shoots too fast to fully benefit from deconstruct

[@fieryflame6676]

@@thomasdmr Ive used it in pantheon, seemed to work fine there. I have seen videos of the nades not exploding correctly though.

[@haych569]

I keep hearing about how cascade point messes with it, but I’d still love to see a damage comparison.

[@admiraltraunt6150]

If you're using Cascade you're better off using BnS it is better DPS/Damage. Decon really is best with RoF since you don't need to swap and can just ammo dump. And this is only if the damage phase is long enough. BnS and or Surrounded would always be better dps wise otherwise.

[@ThriveOnEgo_]

@@admiraltraunt6150 explosive light on g/ls is 60% also btw. my shiney version of edge transit has cascade with bait and explosive light. so i have the best of both.

[@ldc3858]

wish he’d just shoot the boss with just a well, no surges and dodge reload. There’s so many other factors contributing to damage.

[@kernewek3447]

well drops orbs, realistic dmg phase will nearly almost have a well to provide surge stacks. as for super, understandable but i think dodge is fair to replicate some form of instant reload as all classes currently have access to it some way or another

[@ldc3858]

@@kernewek3447 just don’t equip surges on legs, whatever the base damage is with well will just be multiplied by surges.

[@ex3307]

In that case,you could just find the damage number on d2foundry

[@EHADAFGC]

Surge timer duration is guaranteed on Well's orb. This is a very consistent, reliable, and realistic test case

[@MoonDystopia]

@@ldc3858 if he wants to do the math why damage test at all?

[@moneyonthafloor]

new tech ⁉

[@sebastian_blair6685]

I knew this before this gl even came out I wanted this and new it would be great ammo economy I don't think anyone expected sticky nades tho

[@olayadiego]

Wait, so spike grenades are not the best for damage anymore?

[@ThriveOnEgo_]

as of the last update yeah its not really that necessary anymore

[@kaemani6011]

Still the highest per shot, but sticky nades paired with deconstruct allows you to get many more shots off. and mini frags/augmented drum/back up mag mod give you more shots per mag to allow more deconstruct procs per mag (therefore also providing more shots per mag than spike)

[@randomizeskillz5643]

Sticky nade + full court