STIHL FS-111R VS. ECHO SRM 3020 Comparison [I Expected More]

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3 жыл бұрын

In this comparison Video I go over 2 of the preferred trimmers on the market. The ECHO SRM-3020 (30.5cc) and the Stihl FS 111R (31.4cc). Both of these units are very good and honestly its probably gonna come down to dealer support, comfort and features. Let me know in the comments below which do you prefer?
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@campoffthemap8307
@campoffthemap8307 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve got all echo trimmers on my trailer - 1 SRM225, 2 2620’s and a 3020. My business partner that runs our other crew has all Stihl stuff. We’ve asked our employees and most prefer the Echo and they all say the 3020 is an absolute monster for ditches and overgrown properties. I’ve seen them pretty much race each other to grab it. We also run Darwin grips on all the trimmers and they make a ton of difference.
@SnifterRoux
@SnifterRoux Жыл бұрын
If you could only have 1 to use as an all rounder being 85% tidy edging around the yard and 15% light to medium brush, would it be a 2620 or a 3020? The 3020 is on special where I am for less than the 2620 1.36 : 1 gear ratio version)
@campoffthemap8307
@campoffthemap8307 Жыл бұрын
@@SnifterRoux Personally Id pick the 3020 (the non-t version). It’s nice to have that extra power when you get into thick stuff and I don’t think the weight really slows you down. If it’s only between the 2620 and the 3020t, I’d probably take the 2620. I haven’t been a fan of the t models.
@question1313
@question1313 3 ай бұрын
What's wrong with with those versions ​@campoffthemap8307
@campoffthemap8307
@campoffthemap8307 3 ай бұрын
@@question1313 nothing really wrong with them, I just prefer the non t because you get a higher head speed that I feel like results in a cleaner cut.
@locallandscapinglawncarel.6328
@locallandscapinglawncarel.6328 3 жыл бұрын
3020t is way to powerful for every day use, I prefer 2620/2620t for every day use on my business. 3020t is kept and ready when there's a big/tall law. I'm an echo guy and have always used echo.
@jimboneutron8399
@jimboneutron8399 2 ай бұрын
What do you mean too powerful? Cant you lighten up on the throttle if doing finesse work?
@shepc1169
@shepc1169 Ай бұрын
@@jimboneutron8399 even with .105 line with no guard it will still rev like it is pulling nothing unless you run super long line. I have to run .130 just to keep the revs down. 3020T is obscenely powerful
@717790
@717790 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I ended up replacing my FS 90 R with the 3020 T. Great product! I also noticed the metal clutch housing rather than plastic on these. Really looking forward to not having to deal with four mix and the valve adjustment!
@thomko2715
@thomko2715 3 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this review forever ! Great vid as always Danny
@GrandviewLawnCare
@GrandviewLawnCare 3 жыл бұрын
Both seem like great trimmers even though I love echo. Thanks for the honest review Danny
@Mopar-Pioneer
@Mopar-Pioneer 2 жыл бұрын
The more reviews I see on the echo product the more I am begining to like them !
@THEMOWERMEDIC1
@THEMOWERMEDIC1 3 жыл бұрын
Hands down the echo
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@caspiannoe4338 2 жыл бұрын
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@robertmatthews5020
@robertmatthews5020 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you for your unbiased opinion! Have a great day!
@ricardowoods8133
@ricardowoods8133 3 жыл бұрын
Great video I'll take the echo I have the 3020 t it's a great weedeater I wish the handle was a little smaller but I can deal with it.
@rellmonger7935
@rellmonger7935 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I just bought echo trimmers last year. Haven't tried them yet. Out of season here in St.Louis. My stihl trimmers I have to pull more then my 2016 Redmax bcz260ts. I own 4 Stihl trimmers fs80, broke. Fs110r runs great burns alot of gas. 2015 Fs130 runs, 2014 Fs250 run sometimes. All of them got maybe 200hrs. My Redmax bcz260ts maybe 280hrs all I can say it runs great. My 2019 Echo hand held blower is what made me try them when my trimmers out of warranty. Runs great
@nicholasedwardbehindtheedg2343
@nicholasedwardbehindtheedg2343 3 ай бұрын
I have both brands, like them both but the Stihl is my favorite.
@travisc3571
@travisc3571 3 жыл бұрын
I have a FS110 from the first year they came out and it seems better than the new Stihl in the video. I have all Echo equipment for my lawn service and today you solved my questions about the new ones. Looks like an upgrade in the very near future. Great video!
@JuanGarcia-kv7yv
@JuanGarcia-kv7yv 3 жыл бұрын
Are you staying with the Echo?
@travisc3571
@travisc3571 3 жыл бұрын
@@JuanGarcia-kv7yv Definitely.
@tanjowil9743
@tanjowil9743 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I am in want of a whipper sniper and hadn't considered the Echo brand but your video have helped me a lot. From Brisbane Australia 🍻
@patmason7276
@patmason7276 3 жыл бұрын
I'll take my 91R sthil any day any time 5 years and its still like new and runs all my attachments. Haven't done anything but gas and go. Just got a 131 R to join the fun!!!!
@edp9743
@edp9743 3 жыл бұрын
Running Echo SRM 2200 30yrs old still going, was commercial use now residential. Stihl FS 90 carb shot no parts, had to retro fit , wall hangar.
@lylekehrer6159
@lylekehrer6159 3 жыл бұрын
Looking at the Wal Mart Black Max reviews and saw this. Echo was another brand I was considering. I liked the break down, as far as the comparison between the two. I've had Poulan, but now actually looking for a more ”quality”one
@brianburchard1
@brianburchard1 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I go with Stihl because of dealer support. Appreciate the grind. 💪🏾
@nes999
@nes999 2 ай бұрын
I didn't think of this, I can walk to my nearest stihl dealer, echo is 30 min. That might sway me.
@bobwhite4098
@bobwhite4098 Жыл бұрын
FS 111 With bike handle badger head with .155 line on 2 1/8 acres some green some tough dry land grass. Cuts sunflowers and Jgrass over my head. Have only made adjustments and changed filters, greased bearing. Have heard neighbors remark about what I can cut down with it. Still running strong
@Axel-tk3tk
@Axel-tk3tk 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 111rx. I like it, it's lighter, it does seem to struggle with the higher stuff but I have a 240r to deal with that. 111rx still handles most overgrown stuff. It does have good fuel consumption. I love how Echo is easier on maintenance, but I would like a sparkpkug cover. I don't mind adjusting valves myself, but it is something to consider. My 111rx is fine for now for the weight vs power. 3020 will be something I consider in a couole of years if the Stihl gives out, thanks for the review.
@lorenzomendoza1476
@lorenzomendoza1476 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, my neighbor has a FS240R and it’s a beast I think better than the 111
@logansimpson305
@logansimpson305 3 жыл бұрын
Great video I like both trimmers
@Scatpack23
@Scatpack23 3 жыл бұрын
Always used stihl trimmers and chainsaws, great equipment, never tried any other brand might try echo weed trimmer now that the season jus started
@noteworthy227
@noteworthy227 3 жыл бұрын
Their trimmers (straight shaft) might be good. I wouldn't waste any money on an echo chainsaw though... can't get any better than a stihl chainsaw
@Jv19979
@Jv19979 3 жыл бұрын
@@noteworthy227 echo chainsaw is not a waste of money it's all I use now since Stihl quality is junk. Still have my old stihls though
@gunlover5564
@gunlover5564 Жыл бұрын
I came close to getting an echo. Had full intentions, but I used my father n laws stehl FS-111 with the handlebars and I knew right there and then I wanted one. I don’t regret getting mine.
@sclawns5257
@sclawns5257 3 жыл бұрын
Good job Danny. The Echo may consume more fuel WHILE it is doing more work.. just saying. Im all in on the ECHO. what you did not mention is throttle modulation. I have the 111rx from stihl and feel that it is nothing or full speed not allowing finese near obstructions and thats in comparision with my ECHO 266T and 2620T and 266 raw. Ergonomics on the ECHO work best for me also. Now i would like to see you do a strapon challenge between the biggest strapon blowers from each. I just wish ECHO made a bigger hand held blower.
@gregb1037
@gregb1037 3 жыл бұрын
me and my buddy have this friendly little rivalry between out weedeaters. I use echo and he uses sthil. He has the 131 r and i have the 3020t. He always runs out of fuel before me on jobs and we are basically full throttle the whole time while working.
@brandonblack1540
@brandonblack1540 Жыл бұрын
I use brand new Stihl 111 on state roads and I love it
@adamholbrook2281
@adamholbrook2281 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I was surprised by the Echo/ Husqvarna. I had the 111 in mind, but I think after seeing this and the maint issues with stihl (valves) I will stick to Husky/ Echo. Will look into the price difference too. The 111 did not seem to have the RPMs of the echo and did seem to lag in your test.
@stevew3978
@stevew3978 3 ай бұрын
I find Echo engines extremely hard to pull start. The Echo 2060 has very inadequate compression release during pulling. It takes a very quick and sharp pull to get it started. If it doesn't start after one pull, the second pull becomes much harder because of the built-up pressure in the cylinder from the first pull. Pulling the Echo engine hurts my hand so much. In comparison to my Echo 2060, my Maruyama is a dream to pull start.
@JohnnyMow
@JohnnyMow 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison video.
@LanierLawnCare
@LanierLawnCare 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sir
@JonsDailyHustle
@JonsDailyHustle 3 жыл бұрын
I am a huge echo guy right now, but I do want to give stihl a try eventually. Great video Danny 🙌
@victorrippe5845
@victorrippe5845 3 жыл бұрын
Want an advice from a guy that has worked on lawn equipment for over 35 years don't waist your money stick with echos
@scottjohnson5828
@scottjohnson5828 3 жыл бұрын
@@victorrippe5845 I just bought the stihl on an impulse buy I regret it now
@victorrippe5845
@victorrippe5845 3 жыл бұрын
@@scottjohnson5828 Man that sucks ive always advise guys to buy echos some have listen some have not even echos low end trimmer like the Echo srm225 outlast Stihls high end trimmers echos advantage over stihls is they withstand heat much more then stihls and there internals are superior to stihls i also tell guys if you live up north and you use your trimmer 8 months out the year commercially then go with stihls if you like but for hotter climates like South FL that is none stop mowing all year long go with Echos.
@jeffpadgett6275
@jeffpadgett6275 3 жыл бұрын
I am a echo guy to.
@smallnuts2
@smallnuts2 3 жыл бұрын
@@victorrippe5845 I'm getting a echo leaf blower. For blowing leafs on rock landscaping, is the echo pb800 to powerful? Should I go with a echo 770t? I dont want to be relocating rocks with the blower. Lol
@chriscostlow4210
@chriscostlow4210 3 жыл бұрын
There's also the 94r stihl if concerned with the valves and it's a pound or 2 lighter. I have the sr 225 and the 131r. I like em both.
@Jv19979
@Jv19979 3 жыл бұрын
The 91r is actually more powerful
@freedomisntfree_44
@freedomisntfree_44 2 ай бұрын
@@Jv19979it’s a 4 stroke
@cartoonkiiller8812
@cartoonkiiller8812 2 жыл бұрын
Very Informative ...thank you
@harryerhart5978
@harryerhart5978 3 жыл бұрын
I've been a Stihl customer way back when I've switched to echo because there's no carburetor or starting problems nice video Danny
@Photostudioww
@Photostudioww 3 жыл бұрын
My first new echo srm 225 has carb problems from the beginning. It ran too rich. I pull the plug so I can tune it down and now it's running better. I could have taken it to the dealership but I don't have time for that I lose money. We will see how long it last . Bought it in 2020.
@jstinnette
@jstinnette 3 жыл бұрын
Echo for me. Got a SRM-225 that's been great. Also echo blower and chainsaw...I like orange I guess🤷👌
@eugenecrabs3954
@eugenecrabs3954 3 жыл бұрын
We have an early 90's Echo GT-2400 that STILL has more compression than a new Stihl!! And it max takes only 4 pulls to start. Echo is king
@romaldothomas8653
@romaldothomas8653 Жыл бұрын
Great video thanks for sharing
@santizoslawncare8084
@santizoslawncare8084 Жыл бұрын
Stihl makes AMAZING chain saws. Which we run. However everything else string trimmers, blowers, hedge trimmers etc. We prefer ECHO all the way Great video by the way
@Capmybets
@Capmybets 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t let the stihl sound fool you. It’s got power. Echo looked good I want to try one
@tonyslawncare
@tonyslawncare 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison bro. I adjust my own stihl valves takes 15mins
@easttnlawncare6740
@easttnlawncare6740 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest with you I think I like that better than the 1:30 just for everyday trimming
@stephenparchewski1998
@stephenparchewski1998 Ай бұрын
Good video. I have a KM130, which has a bigger engine than the Stihl in your video. One thing that I love about my KM130 is the torque that it has compared to a 2 stroke. For real thick grass, it really shines. I put between 75 and 100 hours on it per year. In 13 years, that’s a lot of hours. I adjusted the valves once, and they’ve stayed in spec after that. Otherwise, the only repair has been a carb replacement, so I can’t complain.
@chuckybaby1973
@chuckybaby1973 Жыл бұрын
I bought the SRM 3020 after using a Stihl for 12 years and I love it. I find the Echo easier to start in my opinion, and I love its power.
@andrewbooher1106
@andrewbooher1106 2 жыл бұрын
I run echo everything and once the trimmers are broke in you can tune the carb and make them run even better. My tuned pas 2620 will out perform my 3020. I've never heard a trimmer sound this good.
@mikep1584
@mikep1584 Жыл бұрын
What do you do to tune it? I don’t see any carb adjustment screws on my 3020.
@atlantapowerwashingsolutio7420
@atlantapowerwashingsolutio7420 Жыл бұрын
Weve added the edgit pros and Darwin grips to all of them the guys love them
@mrcharlot54
@mrcharlot54 3 жыл бұрын
Nice vidéo thanks !
@jamiecrisp5084
@jamiecrisp5084 3 жыл бұрын
I use both STIHL and ECHO to me they are about equal i have 2 fs55Rs,1 fs70R,and 1 ECHO SRM 2620 it really boils down to preference and which one you are comfortable with both are top of the line pieces of equipment STIHL will cost more to maintain than ECHO but get past that and running both can be a great experience i choose my trimmer according to yard size and fuel capacity for that job small yard=fs55r medium yard=fs70r and large yard=srm 2620.
@tanjowil9743
@tanjowil9743 Жыл бұрын
Ah thanks, I will look at the fs70R
@easttnlawncare6740
@easttnlawncare6740 3 жыл бұрын
They both are very good weed eaters in my book they're almost equal that is a very good comparison that one pound difference I don't think you're going to notice on the echo
@josephpuchel6497
@josephpuchel6497 2 жыл бұрын
Hey I like both but will opt for the ECHO. What’s the thickness of the line do they recommend ? Nice video
@LanierLawnCare
@LanierLawnCare 2 жыл бұрын
They bot come with .095 but I believe you can do .115ish.
@grassyfieldz4578
@grassyfieldz4578 2 жыл бұрын
I cant say for sure because I haven't seen an echo in person but their shaft looks like it is more solidly connected to the engine. I got a stihl fs 70r and its great, but how the shaft is connected to the engine looks flimsy and if i was to accidentally lightly step on it or something i think it'd break.
@michaelmactavish1728
@michaelmactavish1728 3 жыл бұрын
i use mostually all stihl but getting a 52cc chikura unit
@matthewswan649
@matthewswan649 3 жыл бұрын
You did do some good explaining but me personally I fell more comfortable with echo
@dannypatrick6262
@dannypatrick6262 2 жыл бұрын
Been running stihl for 9 years now and I also have a couple of echos and I can not keep the echos running and before anyone says it’s probably the gas you are running it’s not because I run all 93 in my equipment
@KriegerKrieg
@KriegerKrieg 2 жыл бұрын
I had a fs131r and still have a 2620t. In tall wet grass they seemed about the same with the 131r maintaining RPMs a lille better. The throttle on the Stihl was disgustingly incapable of modulation. I just wished 3020t wasn't so damn huge, it's like a foot and a half wide at the motor.
@shepc1169
@shepc1169 Ай бұрын
echo 3020T owner here and that damned thing is a BEAST!!!!
@Photostudioww
@Photostudioww 3 жыл бұрын
Echo srm 225 is all a lawn mowing guy needs. If you need bigger than that you need a brush hog. Been using the 225 for 1 and half seasons now. Just bought a fs56 and I prefer the 225 but they both have their good and bad.
@knightimusprime25
@knightimusprime25 Жыл бұрын
that 225 isnt gonna have the power needed to cut taller thicker shit
@shaneparnell1477
@shaneparnell1477 3 жыл бұрын
Unless the stihls have changed they used to be junk i had 8 of them and everyone of the shafts broke. Ive never had any luck out of their chainsaws or blowers either they dont last long if u use them alot. Ive got an echo weedeater thats been a good one we've used it to mow 130 properties a week for the last 4 years no trouble besides replacing the coil. We've had the best luck with maruyama weedeaters they seem to last forever.
@eugenecrabs3954
@eugenecrabs3954 3 жыл бұрын
We have an early 90's Echo GT-2400 that STILL has more compression than a new Stihl!! And it max takes only 4 pulls to start. Echo is king
@davidpavely4539
@davidpavely4539 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer my echo. I agree with what you have noticed. Also ypu have to cut off the vibration sleeve on the stihl
@marcolopez3438
@marcolopez3438 3 жыл бұрын
Wow do you really get 2 year warranty on the Stihl ??? That's weird.... the dealers in South Miami FL are only giving 90 day warranty on the Stihl, a lot of landscapers are switching to echo because the Stihl weedeaters are coming out with problems straight out the show room. In South Miami the grass grows year around so these landscapers put tons of wear and tear into these machines. Stihl was king like 5 years ago, but now with this new model it's just been a big headache and the carb flooding issues and even bogging down. Landscapers take the guard off and run the string long and have no problem with the Echo, in contrast the Stihl's clutch spring would break often when running the string longer the supposed to. Echo > Stihl
@covertdestroyer
@covertdestroyer 3 жыл бұрын
90 days is if it’s not for personal/home use. If it’s for personal/home use it comes with 2 and the day you purchase it you have the option to double it to 4 years. As a stihl dealer we don’t sell to many 111’s. We sell more 91’s and 131’s. The power to weigh ratio is better. I’m not the biggest fan of the 4-mix though.
@aaroninks
@aaroninks 2 жыл бұрын
Shindaiwa/ Echo. My Shindaiwa equipment is over 20 years old. Purchased in 1998. They are finally showing signs of age. The fuel lines are rotting as is the pickup inside the tank. I’ve used and abused them. All have original air cleaner lol. They get a new spark plug once every ten years or so. The 230 trimmer is blue (anniversary edition) it has had a couple new string trimmer heads put on over the years, and the pole shaft has wallowed out so the head is sloppy. I have a blower, edger, power broom, trimmer all purchased around 1998. Although the power room is older I bought it from a tool rental years used. I have two Shindaiwa chainsaws that are a few years newer. All start on 2nd or 3rd pull and always first pull once warmed up. Best starting chain saws you can own. No ten pull BS here… I’d put them up against any orange machines twice their size. I won’t own anything else.
@sunnydelight4991
@sunnydelight4991 3 жыл бұрын
Echo and Shindaiwa nice if you buy new...and take care of it ... never buy used, but I’m throughly Shindaiwa blowers and maruyama trimmers. I own a stihl fs110r but rarely use got used. Works good
@LanierLawnCare
@LanierLawnCare 3 жыл бұрын
Never used a maruyama or even seen one around here. Would like to try one.
@sunnydelight4991
@sunnydelight4991 3 жыл бұрын
@@LanierLawnCare they are really nice. 100% Japanese
@seabass22
@seabass22 3 жыл бұрын
@@LanierLawnCare all my dad runs and he is somehow extremely hard on equipment. Rarely has issues out of them and he doesn’t even run the top of the line. He still running his two originals and won’t use anything else. If I go to get a new one, it’ll probably be a maruyama. They high though.
@nothanks3462
@nothanks3462 3 жыл бұрын
Used Echo equipment has been some of my best purchases! Got to know what you're looking at and be careful like any purchase, but people pay a lot more for the Stihl name.
@sunnydelight4991
@sunnydelight4991 3 жыл бұрын
@@nothanks3462 I have an echo 230 I bought used and you right, it got me through a season but isn’t really at peak performance but definitely a back up, backup!
@gregb1037
@gregb1037 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 3020t and it shreds! The dual air filters, the speed feed head that holds 25 feet of .95, and the warranty from echo is nice, its a no brainer. My buddy had a sthil and its louder, burns gas quicker, and the head design takes longer to load and hold less string. He sold it and bought the 3020t. German design vs Japanese design. Think about it. Japanese have always made the best small engines
@MilesG6010
@MilesG6010 Жыл бұрын
I like echo, I have a old srm230 and it’s still going strong
@joshslawnlandscape9935
@joshslawnlandscape9935 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video Danny! 2 solid machines no doubt. How much do you think RPM rate varied from the 2 stroke to the 4 stroke? Also, it looked like you were using different line types on the machines...may make some difference as well. Excellent video though brother, keep it up and Happy New Year!
@LanierLawnCare
@LanierLawnCare 3 жыл бұрын
I just used what they both came stock with. I feel the 111R ramps up faster but I would say both seem to spin about the same. It’d be hard to honestly say without checking rpm as the stihl is quieter than the echo so it makes it hard to judge
@diyguybz6191
@diyguybz6191 Жыл бұрын
I've got a Stihl Fs 90 for ten years. I swapped the carb out for a Fs 130 carb. It turned into a whole new beast. What I've learned, don't use the stihl oil. It's good oil, but leaves too much carbon. I run Lucas SemiSynthetic 2 stroke oil, fc fd class. I add about 100mls of seafoam to every gallon of fuel mix. For anyone else, run a good quality oil, can't go wrong.
@timeversman9804
@timeversman9804 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought a fs111 bicycle handle. The only reason being a closer dealer.
@braddenr.4778
@braddenr.4778 3 жыл бұрын
I use my 94r Stihl quite often for my business in larger taller lots and it doesn’t struggle like your 111 did. And my 111r certainly doesn’t struggle in equal circumstances. Even taller vegetation on .95 string. My 94 hasn’t even bogged on me with all kinds of crap wrapped around the head through super tall stuff. Weird.
@Capmybets
@Capmybets 3 жыл бұрын
I know right I have 55, 90 and the 130. 90r which is a little smaller than the 111 is almost too much power for regular stuff. I use the 90 in ditches and tall grass because the 130 will literally launch shit on to oncoming traffic at full throttle. Hell even the 55 kicks ass.
@braddenr.4778
@braddenr.4778 3 жыл бұрын
@@Capmybets yeah, there’s no middle ground with the 111. It’s either no power or too much, not a good candidate for residential lol. My 94 is a jack of all trades, light, super powerful, can cut tall grass on banks all day and I can use it everywhere I cut. Not to mention the 111 is quite a bit heavier. I have a 55 too, exceptional power to weight on that one. Pretty impressive thing.
@braddenr.4778
@braddenr.4778 3 жыл бұрын
@@Capmybets I was tempted on the 130 but for the same reason you stated. It’s a desert eagle to a stick fight lol.
@Capmybets
@Capmybets 3 жыл бұрын
@@braddenr.4778 yeah unless your in the business or have large property you don’t need the 130. Your 111 and 94 is the perfect 2 to have in your garage. Thanks
@sebastianpinto6514
@sebastianpinto6514 Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir 🙏
@michaelhoffman1951
@michaelhoffman1951 3 жыл бұрын
You are correct the 111 does sound like it was struggling
@atlantapowerwashingsolutio7420
@atlantapowerwashingsolutio7420 Жыл бұрын
We for our landscape company the 111 and 91 amd 131 are kings 🤴
@christopherhamm1574
@christopherhamm1574 2 жыл бұрын
Had an Echo SRM2110 for 20+ years of hard use and very dependable service. Have an Echo chainsaw and shredder/vac. All have been trouble free. Just bought another srm266 trimmer. Why switch brands.
@firstname6208
@firstname6208 3 жыл бұрын
I have the .105 line on the 3020t,. I have the .095 line on the 2620 and I have .080 line on the 233 echo. All are great for their purpose. I also have the 410u for hoggin the brush. That is a beast. Has compression release so you can spin it over. It can cut a 2"sapling in a second. Never owned a stihl, can't knock em, some like em , whatever works for u.
@whyme7470
@whyme7470 Жыл бұрын
Try the Shindaiwa 302T. 20 inch cut width w/guard. I run the Shindaiwa 262T for everyday triming.
@SnifterRoux
@SnifterRoux Жыл бұрын
If you could only have 1 would you choose a T303TS (1.62 : 1) or a T263XS (1.36 : 1)? The T303TS is on special where I am for less than the smaller T263XS. 85% will be neat edging around the garden and the other 15% for light to medium light brush.
@whyme7470
@whyme7470 Жыл бұрын
@@SnifterRoux the 303TS if the price is better.
@markclark1605
@markclark1605 2 жыл бұрын
Valve adjustment takes only 7 minutes. I like two strokes as well. Sthil uses the four mix engines because of the epa regulations. Two stroke engines release more emissions. Both are good trimmers for sure. Both of them will be phased out with the electric models in the near future.
@brandonlewis5045
@brandonlewis5045 2 жыл бұрын
No they wont! Its impossible to be all electric or battery powered bud!
@georgemullin7772
@georgemullin7772 Ай бұрын
Is the echo a solid shaft because the sthill is.
@ccmogs5757
@ccmogs5757 Ай бұрын
No , thinking you have to go up to the SRM310 for the solid shaft .
@LuisGonzales-hb8ug
@LuisGonzales-hb8ug 3 жыл бұрын
Hands down with the echo
@lostmoose7352
@lostmoose7352 3 жыл бұрын
To me Echo sounds more powerful....and according to my experience with Echo chainsaws, it is more powerful than my Stihls. I had many Stihls in Europe, but since I got to know Echo, I dont buy any Stihl any more. This being said, I am German.
@shanepipkin4041
@shanepipkin4041 3 жыл бұрын
what's your thoughts on the 111rx it's a pound lighter
@deecee2837
@deecee2837 2 ай бұрын
That one pound savings comes at the expense of a lighter, less robust drive shaft that is not rated to run metal bladed for brush-cutting.
@aodhmacraynall8932
@aodhmacraynall8932 2 жыл бұрын
Si, I'm Mexican and only 3 feet 4 inches tall I have a Stihl and I feel that I can set the handle back further than the Echo and it makes it easier to balance it when doing all day jobs. Ole!
@TheMoparGarage
@TheMoparGarage 2 жыл бұрын
I think a more fair comparison would be the 131 vs the 3020 no?
@wpghockey4631
@wpghockey4631 Жыл бұрын
Stihl would win this comparison is paid for by echo why do you think they gave him a 111 vs 3020. Also note echo is a 2 stroke vs stihl's 4 stroke. This makes many stats hard to compare.
@zerocool212121
@zerocool212121 3 жыл бұрын
I have always been told to just go with the next one up 131 not the 111 its power to weight is so much more. You dont need to adjust the valves that much and when you do its very simple and you should do it yourself. Id only adjust it when it has issues if it runs great dont fuck with it its that simple. My 131 and br800 have a couple years on them and havent had to be touched fwiw. Stihl gets better fuel imo and the 131 still weighs less with more hp. Dealer support should be your first thing but if you do the stihl get the 131 or drop down to the 91 or 94, if you want a pure 2 stroke from stihl you will pay more but the 240 is your ticket :) 4mix vs 2 stroke the 2 stroke will always feather the throttle easier so if you cant do that well might stick with a pure 2 stroke, trying them out is the best way to see dont take my word for it.
@Redneck1234-e9y
@Redneck1234-e9y 2 ай бұрын
Hands down the stihl!!!!!
@ewilliams19
@ewilliams19 3 жыл бұрын
Echo all day!!!
@andyholder6039
@andyholder6039 Жыл бұрын
I've never owned echo and I'd choose it over Stihl.
@user-fl7qo4oc2f
@user-fl7qo4oc2f 2 жыл бұрын
Hello I'm interested because it's a machine that can't be purchased in Japan. I want it if I can buy it.
@surfcasualms
@surfcasualms 3 ай бұрын
Had my stihl 7 years abused a lot minimum maintenance running like new. Its the 1 smaller than the 111.
@KenMrKLC
@KenMrKLC 3 жыл бұрын
I will take the Husqvarna 525L over either of these. The only thing I prefer on the echo is the trigger being solid as I have broken off a few triggers that are not by getting caught on something. Husq is a good deal lighter and I love the powerband
@LanierLawnCare
@LanierLawnCare 3 жыл бұрын
Husqvarna is worst trimmer I’ve ever owned.
@KenMrKLC
@KenMrKLC 3 жыл бұрын
@@LanierLawnCare why? I have been running Husq for 18 years with other brands mixed in. What did you not like
@andybecker2693
@andybecker2693 3 жыл бұрын
@@KenMrKLC In his review of the 525ls he said if he took the guard off and lengthened the line to 20”” it bogged like crazy. That didn’t happen on his Echo 2620.
@andybecker2693
@andybecker2693 3 жыл бұрын
@@KenMrKLC Also the 525L is the box store version. The LS and LST can only be bought at a dealer.
@KenMrKLC
@KenMrKLC 3 жыл бұрын
@@andybecker2693 What are you talking about? 525L is professional use unit. the 325L is a homeowner model you may find only at box store. Regardless there are prob 10 different models in all price ranges. Never felt low on power any unit I have used. If you want 30cc go with the 430LS still a pound lighter and same price. Their new 535LS is 35cc if you want power, and still weighs same or less than the Echo tank. I am actually ordering parts now for my 2620 echo power head because its a piece of plastic holding the carb on the motor as well as the throttle bracket at the carb which both snapped off. I have never had anything break on my Husky trimmers except the trigger
@michael-ki4sr
@michael-ki4sr 3 жыл бұрын
Echo all day
@demetricwalker123
@demetricwalker123 3 жыл бұрын
Echo all the way
@demetricwalker123
@demetricwalker123 3 жыл бұрын
I have one for 2 year that same model
@eugenecrabs3954
@eugenecrabs3954 3 жыл бұрын
We have an early 90's Echo GT-2400 that STILL has more compression than a new Stihl!! And it max takes only 4 pulls to start. Echo is king
@keithinthemountains6450
@keithinthemountains6450 3 жыл бұрын
I have a fs111r but have not been happy with it. It just seems so labored while using it and also its unbalanced when using. Its not like the old Stihls! I really want a 3020 !!! I have a srm225 and very happy with it but also need a larger machine.
@ybthegoat63
@ybthegoat63 2 жыл бұрын
i wish i got the 3020 but the 225 is still a great trimmer
@302vettelife2
@302vettelife2 2 жыл бұрын
I may have missed it in the video, but were you using the line that came with the trimmers? If so, Stihl trimmer line is complete garbage. I'm assuming the Echo had black diamond on it. A curved shaft craftsman with Black Diamond will out trim most with junk line.
@DoctorRickSanchez
@DoctorRickSanchez 3 жыл бұрын
Echo for me adjusting valves are a hell of a lot easier and it's a pound lighter with the same power.
@raulchavarria7446
@raulchavarria7446 3 жыл бұрын
Echo definitely has more power. More power equals less straining for you. Common sense, the machine does the work, not you. You’ll feel the difference after a long day of gardening and be thankful you owned that Echo.
@timw6281
@timw6281 Жыл бұрын
the stihl 4mix engine not only runs on less gas but completely burns all the fuel vs the echo which can have up to 30% bypass gas oil mix going into the atmosphere where the stihl is a complete burn...stihl has a foam outer elenent and a fiber second element...only difference is both filters are attached to each other vs seperate with the echo...the stihl has a lot more low end torque vs the echo needs to run in higher rpms for the same cutting force...
@wherenorthbegins7831
@wherenorthbegins7831 2 жыл бұрын
I’m an Echo guy, use several Echo products for our Select Lawn Care MN and have never had any problems. #wherenorthbegins #selectlawncaremn
@heathalford4721
@heathalford4721 25 күн бұрын
I think the 3020 should be more compared to the 131 stihl personally as they are about the same price. I’ve had the previous 130s. They are strong. Also you can buy the pole saw head & just swap the trimmer head to pole saw. Each has pros and cons both supposed to be good brands
@davidbell6317
@davidbell6317 2 жыл бұрын
I have the FS111R Sthl and I have had to take it back to dealer twice for bad running. In gas Tank filter was bad and the carb was out of wack. Do not like the Head on the sthl. for the amount of $ you pay needs to come with a speed feed head instead of the piece of crap head! Not real happy with this sthl weedeater. Im not sure in the future I will hesitate the purchase of any Sthl products. I woukd like to see you do a Shindawa vs Echo trimmer?
@waimeaguyz9074
@waimeaguyz9074 10 ай бұрын
I wasted my money buying the stihl. I am going to buy an echo 3020. Better trimmer.
@erikabanuelos2299
@erikabanuelos2299 3 жыл бұрын
I am going to go with the stihll because echo didn’t make 4 ciycol I have a 4 ciiycol
@joegorman862
@joegorman862 3 жыл бұрын
The new echo srm 410x is a 42 cc trimmer
@allaboutroofing2
@allaboutroofing2 3 жыл бұрын
In a Tim Allen voice...arrrr arrrr arrrr!
@frank23894
@frank23894 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be fairer if the 3020 was against the 131?
@deecee2837
@deecee2837 2 ай бұрын
The fs131 is in a different, higher price range (>$500). It is the same trimmer as the fs111, except for having slightly more power. It possibly equals the 3020, power-wise, but the 4-mix engine problems & maintenance requirements remain. Even lifelong Stihl fans, including me, lament them replacing their legendary 2-stroke models (such as the FS250) with these 4-mix engines. Even their over-priced replacement 2-strokers aren't as good - being heavier & less powerful in actual use. Hence, many professionals are moving away from modern Stihl trimmers. It's commonly blamed on EPA & EU regulations, but Echo (& others) seem to have adjusted to the stricter requirements more efficiently without the sacrifice of usable power, increased maintenance, & reliability.
@douglashundley6777
@douglashundley6777 3 жыл бұрын
Echo came out with the srm410x
@brianocdgarner7184
@brianocdgarner7184 3 жыл бұрын
Boom!
@hannahgadlage
@hannahgadlage 3 жыл бұрын
Echo please !
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