STILL THE KING! 5 reasons WHY the Z Fold 5 is BETTER than the OnePlus Open

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[@aidansherry12]

Im sorry but you need to have it in hand to do a real reason why z fold is better

[@truthbetold180]

Strongly agree.

[@PD-gt1dm]

Yeah, feels more like trying to validate his purchase as opposed to a real comparison.

[@johnaart]

Nothing but FACTS

[@riverjustice]

You can rock Z fold without a case.

[@Steve-hp5cf]

he doesn't have the money to get one which is why he is trying to make a controversy video to earn and buy one

[@bentruthuncovers9331]

😂😂 you're making a definitive judgement before you've even put your hand on a oneplus

[@bananalube9159]

Yeah, the Fold 5 all the way. 1: The crease which is actually a drainage 2: Smaller battery and more power consumption will make you go home earlier 3: Slow charging will give you a reason to go late for work 4: Weird outside screen which will gives you more privacy, those who sit beside you won't be able to read the text 5: Great design which will give hard time to others to guess if you are using Fold 5 or Fold 7

[@gcforreal]

Bingo 😂

[@arefif93]

great point !

[@Maxx134a]

Don't forget #6- to fool your friends into mistaking it for the TV remote

[@donk5371]

@@Maxx134a Don't forget #7 - being heavier is easier to break someone's nose.

[@DisciplinedTrader27]

None of your points made sense except the water resistent thing but its also not a big of a concern its still splash proof

[@oleesae]

I'm a core Samsung fan,but OnePlus made a huge statement. The size of the outer screen has stopped me from buying a fold. Your take was biased and your ignorance about the OnePlus open was overwhelming. You were all about "you". I recommend you stay away from reviewing devices till you're able to be neutral /less biased to say the least.👎👎👎

[@techwithbenefits]

This is my channel so to be blunt, I'll do what I want. I have 8 years industry experienced. I am more than capable of making comparisons of devices based on other impressions I've read as well as publish those thoughts and opinions. This comment is biased based on your opinions and thoughts and all about how you feel about my video. I suggest you stay away from comment sections until you make a KZbin video yourself 👎

[@techwithbenefits]

@@phantomanimations9045 never called it a review champ.

[@techwithbenefits]

@@phantomanimations9045 I suggest minding your own business

[@hk6926]

​@@techwithbenefitsstill a stupid take and it doesn't matter if it's blunt or not . If you don't like people commenting better to make videos for yourself and not upload to public .

[@Nathaniel787]

Lmao​@@techwithbenefits

[@HABO2210]

Tl;dr I disagree with everything except for spen and dex. 1)" point of the foldable is to be opened"- according to whom? Not for me. If anything, I'd like to use the phone functions as much as possible during the day due to sheer inconvenience of opening a large piece of slab to its full size (with concrete below you begging for you to accidentally drop it in that state). I want to type a 3 sentence message without making 20 mistakes in the process. 20:9 aspect ratio solved that. The beauty of foldable is to use it when you know no regular smartphone would be able to do what a foldable easily can (split-screen,viewing and editing docs, serious web browsing). 2) infinity o is barely a distraction,I'd rather have a half decent cam than dumpster fire of camera for the sake of being invisible (but it really isn't 100% invisible) 3)crease. Oh yeah, Samsung's showing it alright, especially after a year of use when the crease splits in half and you get not one, but 2 separate screens. 4)water resistance was NOT sacrificed. It's just as water resistant as fold 5. They sacrificed paying for ipx8 certificate. A stupid decision given its eye-watering price,but hey... 5)software. Half agree. OnePlus has clearly superior multitasking and drag-and-drop method compared to fold 5, but optimization of apps is still required 6)dex- I agree 7)camera. Photo/video quality always thrumps features. Always! That's why people prefer iPhone. Simple point and shot, no Nikon-like modes that take ages to learn. If you really want the pro features, there's always an app for that. Quality cannot always be fixed,especially night mode photos, raw hardware is a neccesss prerequisite for any further solid photo editing 8)s pen-agreed. However, spen sucks on fold 5 just as well with no s-pen slot, no support for outer display and painful writing experience throughout the inner crease 9)wireless charging-what's so convenient about wireless charging over wired? You can't use your phone and charge while on charging pad. The simple find and plug in cable takes 2 seconds (or are we as a human race too lazy even for that). Sure it's better to have and not need it than need it and not have it, but then do the feature right. Don't give me that crappy 10-15 w wireless charging from 2019 like Samsung To top it all of, One Plus gives superior hardware (and partially software experience) for $300 less, with tradein included. If I weren't in a rush of buying another phone, I'd pick Open over fold 5 any day of the week.

[@stacywebb6330]

What keeps me from switching from Samsung foldables to another is the eventual trade-in value for the next version of Z, can't beat the $1000 trade-in if you have the current Z.

[@ken.h007]

That's why I JUST TRADED TO ONEPLUS.. THEY GAVE ME $990 for my fold 4..BYE SAMSUNG!!!!!!!!

[@blainepeoples5376]

I disagree. I feel like a foldable is a phone first then a tablet. I want to the inside screen when I WANT to use it. Not that I NEED to because I can't do it on the outer display comfortably. I have returned every z fold I have owned because the cover display is a huge pain point. I now own the pixel fold and I can do anything on the cover and open when I want to multitask or if I want a larger screen while watching media.

[@The_Brimada]

You're both right and wrong lol. It's purely subjective what a foldable is.

[@AlexGTech]

My favourite series on KZbin right now 🥰

[@techwithbenefits]

You make me blush

[@selloramasia4563]

❤

[@ompong1993]

Why ONEPLUS OPEN is better. - $100 Cheaper, if you trade in any garbage phone its $300 cheaper. - 16GB RAM, 512GB Storage - IR Blaster - Dual LTPO screen 2K@120Hz, 2800 nits (Dolby Vision) - Triple Speaker(spatial audio) (Dolby Atmos) - Slimmer and lighter - Less noticeable crease - 67W charging The only thing the FOLD 5 got is the S-pen and water resistance. OPEN is a way better deal, or wait for FOLD 6.

[@teuteu13]

Better you buy and try the new one plus fold before doing this video..

[@johnsonoladipupo552]

That will be a huge mistake buying one plus open, samsung fold 5 is still the king of foldable phones.........

[@alcylon]

have you even used/tried oneplus open? when you have come back igen

[@themoviesnob9513]

Samsung is the Apple of Android. They have become complacent and lazy. It absolutely shows since they've made no substantial changes since the 3rd generation. Also you should have waited to have the OnePlus in your hands. You're probably going to get it and have to apologize for this video. 🤷

[@breedlofam]

As an aside, Samsung did not start wireless charging. The Palm Pre did back in 2009. Yes, I am that old. The Z Fold 5 is a much better working multitask device. I've used the Pixel and the Open as well now and the Z Fold 5 just remains the better device for work tasks. Throw in Dex support and it's not close. The Z Fold 6 needs to up it's game though. I'm not really concerned about camera hardware since there are other devices more suitable for that. It needs a better screen ratio/size similar to the Open for one. This would allow a larger battery on one side and a space to integrate the S Pen on the other. I don't mind if it's slightly thicker either to increase battery. This is a niche device still and most of us are adults that can handle a couple more ounces in weight. 45w charging at a minimum as well. In a world of 65w charging, 45w should be the minimum. As for wireless charging, it's really a non issue for me and most people. It's too slow and too hot. For earbuds and watches with tiny batteries, that's fine. For a phone, I just have zero desire to slow charge. It takes an extra 2 seconds to plug it in. People complaining about the Open not having it, it's just background noise to me.

[@TimePass-wi6by]

Samsung is GOD to him where he simply cant see any faults. My personal experience with having both Samsung folds z fold 3 and z fold 4 z was worse than hell.Both the z fold 3 and z fold 4 had screen protector peeling off on its own at the middle of the crease with big black crease like big black tar in the middle so i went to Samsung they said don't worry ur inner display wont damage as its only the screen protector so i believed them and after few months of ending of 1 year it had grown so big i took it again to Samsung and they removed the screen protector and said the inner display is damaged permanently due to the screen protector peeling off on its own and the black tar in the middle of the very big crease will stay permanently on the display no matter if the put another screen protector or not cause the BIG crease of Samsung had done it.Anyways i though this problem had been fixed in z fold 4 so i went and bough z fold 4 and same thing happened and at the end of 2nd year z fold 3 simply wouldn't fold close due to hinge failure and after end of 3rd year z fold 4 both having ugly TAR in the middle .The problem is Samsung has lots of moving parts 200+ the more moving parts make the hinge less durable so if they said 5 years its likely gonna go off like mine in 1 year or 2 years

[@jacksonburger2081]

I used the fold 3 for many months (I know it’s 2 years old, but honestly not much has changed). I LOVED having that giant display for when I needed it, but I don’t want it all the time. I got so annoyed having to open it Every Single Time I wanted to use it I just switched back to the iPhone SE. The fact that neither display is a standard aspect ratio also sucks because it means apps aren’t optimized for either display. At least on the OnePlus, you have the front display if an app isn’t working properly and needs a standard aspect ratio.

[@jacksonburger2081]

The inner display is there for when you need it. You don’t need it Every Single Time You Use The Phone

[@jacksonburger2081]

*Samsung’s display is near distraction free* Bruv, look at the fricken crease lol

[@jacksonburger2081]

If you think Samsung has got software down, literally just use the KZbin app. There three different F***ing versions depending on how you open it. It’s different if you open it on the cover screen vs the inner screen portrait orientation vs inner screen landscape orientation. Absolutely horrendous for the end-user experience.

[@jacksonburger2081]

4:14 “you’re limited to how many apps you have down at the bottom” Bro, you’re limited on the Samsung too. You literally said 8 was the maximum yourself…🤨

[@jacksonburger2081]

The fact that OnePlus has made the feature where you can choose when you want to transition from inner to front screen just with a swipe up is full stop better. The fact that Samsung hasn’t don’t this is hella lame and needs to be fix asap.

[@Awaks]

imo, the s pen shouldn't be inside. The whole concept behind samsung's ZFolds and foldables in general means that they are constricted/limited by design. Forcing that pen introduces even more internal limitations and is quite simply not worth it. The only way it gets inside, is by making the foldables that much wider, which destroys the whole purpose in the first place. And we lose practicality since the pen becomes even smaller, which is fine on a small slab, but not so much on a much bigger display. It's a device I between the void of a tab and a slab, people should learn to not judge it like it's either of those. Only hope is side magnets at some point, but even that will be tough with the limited space unlike a tab, but we'll see.

[@Awaks]

Amazing video as per usual tho

[@breedlofam]

it definitely doesn't need to be much wider. As wide as the Open is would leave the room necessary on one size while increasing battery size on the other. The Z Fold is a niche device, so each half also being 1 mm thicker would also be perfectly acceptable to increase battery size. I'm a grown man, I can handle a slightly thicker and heavier device for a 20%+ increase in battery.

[@jimthrowaway]

*No it shouldn't ! !* . . . I have 4 Samsung S-pen devices. Here's the deal. Have *extra* S-pens. To pick up and use grab-n-go-style on the fly as need. That's what I do. And I'll tell you why: _It's the storage hole itself._ . . . . [ *EDIT* : There's a host of complexities related to modifying the design to begin with, which another post covers, so I won't here. And then there's this : ] *I hate that dang little holster hole !* Whether it's the one built into the phone or when in those rubbery protective cases we use it's like pulling teeth extracting S-pens out of that grippy material. Putting in & taking S-pens out began *annoying me* like a _tedious little extra chore_ over time. *So just get extra S-pens !* ...They're not exorbitantly priced, ...don't be a miser... Using cost as a reason to justify not getting extra S-pens, to me, is just a convenient little *copout excuse.* Fact is, nobody seems to have a problem spending about the same amount of dough at the food court in the mall when they have the munchies after the movie etc etc... Well, S-pens *_LAST_* , _unlike a cheeseburger._ Friend, Life is *so much easier* having S-pens just laying around in various locations... Right now I'm up to about 5, & every once in awhile on impulse I'll pick up another, 'til I'm up to about *10* and _I have no problem with that at all..._ S-pens are like fresh clean socks ..better to have a few too many than not enough, the piece of mind, not frustration, just makes each day _that little bit easier.._ *every little bit counts !*

[@oneyedmonkey87]

Everyone in the comments seem salty that they've already spend their money on the Samsung fold and just saw this OnePlus come out and completely destroy it

[@JustXavier]

Respectfully, your first point doesn't stand up. A phone doesn't have to habe a crappy outer-screen in order for rhe inner-screen to shine. The point of a foldable is that you have the larger screen available for use _when_ you need a larger screen. You shouldn't have to be forced to use the inner screen just to get access to basic functionality (like the ability to type easily)

[@simptrix007]

Its different form factor. Fold give you better tablet experience on inner screen while Open is more about equal split screen. If Fold 6 comes with at least 45W charging and camera upgrades its going to attract more people.

[@NukeZoned]

fr saying one is better just doesnt make sense, the 2 form factors really are preference

[@rolins3279]

Honestly, this OnePlus Open / Oppo Find N3 doesn't impress me, the only foldable that for me is really better than the Fold 5 in terms of hardware and design is the Huawei Mate X3, but Samsung still has the advantage of software. The only positive thing I see in this OnePlus Open / Oppo Find N3 is the competition it brings to the foldable market outside of China, competition that can only be beneficial for us consumers.

[@techwithbenefits]

That's right! It's an impressive show of hardware, but there is core components missing

[@rolins3279]

@@techwithbenefits 🤝🏽

[@play150]

I just received my Oneplus Open after not wanting to deal with Samsung customer service after my Fold 4 broke. i think your points are very valid and I'm actually considering going back to the Galaxy fold in a few years as my next phone if it gets thinner/lighter. i actually miss the thin front screen (easier one handed use), and the camera software is such a big difference (pics come out so much better on the Galaxy Fold). For wireless charging, i wonder if they left it out on purpose to have something to add to the next generation

[@brandonjuhnke5897]

This comment isn't to convince people to switch or to put down this gentleman in anyway. But for anyone that's had a similar experience in that you're not alone. I've personally been slighted by Samsung for years (note 5, s10, a7, watch 3& 4, sound bar, washer & dryer and my current phone s21 ultra 5G 256GB) current phone hasnt been able to consistently hold a connection to anything for about 18 months now (wifi, bluetooth and even carrier network). I will agree, out of the box their products are amazing, but I have the experience where that doesnt last more than 6 months on average. The last straw was when they bricked my watch with an update then wanted me to pay to replace or fix it. Then expected me to wait 2 months for this. This feels like paid sponser defense. He keeps bringing up how they don't sacrifice this for that but they have always sacrificed longevity for these features which kills it for me personally, especially when you slap a $2k price tag on something. I will say Samsung has done an amazing job, like Apple, with their brainwash marketing. So personally, even if the open isn't peak yet, that other companies are giving them a run on this new tech is good news. Because once one hits it, I'm personally done with this brand.

[@andrewbui1351]

If Samsung's approach to their Z Fold line is the inner screen is the main screen, and the outer is their secondary, then I think it is the wrong approach. I think a bookstyle foldable should be a 2-in-1, a phone and a tablet in one, so both screens should be pleasurable to use as a phone and a tablet. I feel like Samsung has taken the same approach as their Z Flip line, where the outer display is only meant for smaller, simple tasks such as checking notifications, and the inner display is the main screen. This makes sense on the Z Flip line since its main purpose is to be a regular phone that's meant to fold in half to become more compact/pocketable. On the other hand, the Z Fold has the capacity to also be a tablet in addition to being a regular sized phone. Something which the Z Flip can’t do. So for the people that are coming from regular sized slab phones, the Z Fold's outer screen feels too restricting, narrow, and uncomfortable use as a regular phone. It feels like it is forcing these users to use the inner screen, which isn't great as you want your device to be used as you like, not to be forced to use it in a particular way, inconvenient to you. As an owner of the Z Fold 4 who 85% uses the inner screen, I disagree with the argument that if you don't unfold it often, then you shouldn't buy foldable at all. If someone purchases a foldable and uses the outer screen a majority of the time, as long as they are satisfied with their purchase, as long as there are times when they do see the inner screen as useful, even 5%-10% of the time, it is worth it. You should have the choice to use whichever screen to your liking, and only the people who shouldn't, or should reconsider buying a foldable phone, are the ones that do not see any purpose in using the inner screen at all. Now that I think about it, I guess if your perspective of the inner screen of the foldable is the 'main screen', (rather than seeing it as a 2-in-1, phone and a tablet), and you barely use the 'main screen', it would make sense for you to assert that people who barely use the inner screen should just get a regular slab phone instead, since they are barely using the 'main screen'. As for the hole punch camera, I feel a bit conflicted by your point, that Oneplus's camera on the inner display shows they do not understand the whole point of giving the best screen experience to their users. If your point holds true, then a majority of the phones available today do not understand how to give the best display experience on their phones, since most have the hole punch camera. I believe OnePlus and the rest have just opted for the inner screen hole punch camera for better inner screen photo quality, and it doesn't necessarily correlate to not understanding how to give the best inner display experience. With the crease, it sounds bizarre if Samsung designed their current foldables to have a deep crease just to show that it is there and they're not hiding it. The different foldable creases from various companies are because of different designs and implementations of their inner screen and how it folds with the hinge. Yes, the crease might sag over time, but that accounts for all foldables, including the Z Fold. And with the OnePlus, it is too soon to say that it will sag to the depth of Z Fold's. We don't know yet, but honestly I will assume it still won't be as noticeable as Samsung's Z Fold as the OnePlus Open is the Oppo Find N3, which is their 3rd upgraded gen of the 'water drop' hinge. Samsung has just begun using the 'water drop' hinge, and I believe OnePlus/Oppo are ahead in hardware, especially since they are boasting a 1,000,000 fold lifespan with only 69 parts, compared to Z Fold's 200,000 fold lifespan with probably higher parts count.

[@alexmotts]

Own both phones and an s24 ultra. The oneplus open is the best phone out period. Your delusional.

[@AlexGTech]

"When the time is right, they will put it in" Wise words

[@techwithbenefits]

😅😅😅😅

[@payday873]

🤣🤣

[@angusor8718]

I have tested the OPPO N3 equivalent of One Plus Open, It would be very difficult to hold when making a phone call due to the camera bump.

[@scrumbsciouscrispybuns5026]

Bro what? How's camera bump make it hard to make phone call?

[@Sky-8646]

Paid by Samsung..😂

[@jdubuc0831]

its interesting, you make good points, but admittedly you havent seen the Open. Everyone that has done comparison vids say that the open win out in almost every way.

[@gcforreal]

Cant take the comparison serious until you actually handle both devices

[@dempseydiscus]

I've had Samsung Phones from way back and I was SO looking forward to the Z Fold 5 -but their choice of continuing with that super narrow front screen have swayed me towards the OnePlus Open - you say you'll want to open the phone anyway and eh - yes, thats correct, but with the Samsung you'll need to do just that, because using that narrow phone will get you annoyed whereas on the OnePlus you can actually choose to use to front screen as a 'normal' phone you dont' NEED to open it up all the time just to do simple things like typing a text message and getting pissed off by the super narrow keyboard.

[@delamain1559]

Frankly I didn't think I would say that but I prefer this narrow screen over time, when I switch to a large modern smartphone or even the OP open, I like less the handling of the screen in the format20:9, the only advantage and even in real life I write the same on the 2 type of screen is the width of the keyboard.. but I make 0 mistakes here too so it's a false argument Now I find that the Oppo find n3 is good, the oneplus open is miserable... Why do I say that the oppo find n3 is honest, Oppo gives you real specs, oneplus lies like kids alo While it's the same tel!!! For me it's redflag.☠️ You can't say 1m opening if you have a factory quality hinge 2.5 times lower than z fold 5 (z fold 3 equivalent which resists 300k folds), you can't say 2800 nits when we measured at best 1405....... There's 1395 nits of marketing lie sorry but that doesn't give me a reason to Trust in oneplus...

[@chtm]

The shelf in the back displaying the Samsung Fanboy Starter Kit says it all.

[@techwithbenefits]

You should be a detective. Very impressive how you've put that together 👏

[@AdamConnelly15]

Great video and points made. 👍 All my devices are Samsung but i think Oneplus have a killer product in the Oneplus Open. I have never understood why Samsung couldn't make a foldable with wide displays both for fold & flip. I compared the Oppo flip n3 to the Samsung flip and it was better in my opinion. It's the same when i look at the Oneplus open & Samsung Fold 5, i think Oneplus did a better job, they have polished their software and with time it would get better. I think Samsung got complacent, look at the weight of their fold, width of the outer screen, gap at the hinge etc. I just think it's taken then too long to improve things which is confront the Chinese are doing really fast and the way things are going they would catch up with Samsung.

[@deepin2u]

OnePlsu didn't really polish "their" software, Oppo did. Next only certain software got refined/polished not the overall offerings. how many 1st party features/offerings compare to Samsung's and then consider GoodLock by Samsung?! Therein I think you made a mistake, but your choice is valid for YOU and that's all anyone can do really!! Samsung did NOT become complacent. Saying so would be blind. Year over Year Q3 Samsung out delivered what ALL industry analyst expected EVEN though the entire industry suffered lower shipments, Samsung's profit climbed not to mention lowered expenses. Samsung is NOT new to phones or smartphones, something TOO many forget. Samsung has had: Licensed S60/Symbian based phones, PocketPC Smartphone Edition Phones, Windows Mobile 7/8 phones as well. They KNOW what their doing! They know when to spend more on R&D and when doing so will pay off in product releases. Doing minimal R&D in 2022-2023 allows for more product deals and marketing and sales which panned out successfully for them. Now R&D spending can be done for innovative products and sales for 2024/2025 and leap frog the competition. whom has the largest GLOBAL shipments and warranty support? whom has the lions share of market? whom has the largest support of Android software working on both inner and outter displays on the PlayStore? Whom has THE best support of 3rd party launchers - that support all features for their foldables?! That's right ... say it one time for me boys & girls .... Samsung! ^ look at that name as a lexicon: Sam + Sun + of a G! Sam, who's Son of a G! Yup that be me! DeepIn2U. Peace.

[@deltaechomusicnh555]

Imagine making a video about a phone you've never held before. Lmao 1. You're down playing the fact that OnePlus has a larger outter screen. What an idiotic statement. Just cause the outter screen is wider doesn't mean it will stop people from opening the phone up. 2. The crease, Jesus man come one. Yes phones creases do get a little worse over time. But the point is OnePlus Opens crease will still look 10x better than the Fold 5 after years of use. This video just seems like a sympathy video for himself, to make himself feel better about getting the Fold 5 over the OnePlus Open. 😂

[@kariak1]

You’re just justifying too much on samsung side, for example saying that samsung will add some stuff in later - is cool while downplaying competitor that already have mentioned feature / advantage.

[@jimmcnevin9367]

I have the Xiaomi Mix Fold 3 love it so much it easily replaced my Galaxy Z Fold 4, which I traded for the OnePlus Open. Having had all three of them, the Chinese foldable phones are light years beyond Samsung. They are wider, have better battery life, charge faster 80watt charger included with the Open and the Mix Fold 3 came with a 67watt charger in the box and it also charges 50 watt wirelessly. If you can't use your device without having to open it, it's no good. Oh and the crease on the OnePlus, which is a rebranded Oppo, is virtually non existent and the Xiaomi is only slightly more visible from certain angles, as opposed to Samsung's version of the Grand Canyon. I am sorry, but Samsung is not the king!

[@nhannguyen2190]

At 1:43 "a foldable phpne is meant to be a phone that you want to open", so make it too narrow to the point of compromising the usage of the front screen to remind the users that they should open their phone? Hmmm i wonder if there's a better design somehow...

[@johng9422]

I have both phones here and have been a Fold users since the Fold 2. Whilst I agree with the first point, where Samsung has made a different design decision which makes total sense and I do have to say the Open is clunckier to hold. However I completely disagree with you on the crease. This has been the biggest complaint I have had. It is HUGE, it is ANNOYING when you are reading text and it is always right in your face. The inner display on the Oneplus blows the Fold out of the water..period.It is gorgeous and there is no crease. And there will be no crease since the hinge design is completely different from Samsung. So what you are saying is bullocks. Software and haptics clearly go to the Fold, but Oneplus delivers a solid experience. Having a larger outer screen is also definitely a big benefit, you are a lot less prone to typos and you can just see more content. So this is a serious contender and I am dropping my Fold 5.

[@raychow5419]

Some points are valid while some are not. OnePlus is will be my current go to foldable. Wished the V2 supported Play store and US support.

[@RJ_Uploads]

Quick question do you have the device yet, because there is something I would like to know about the device before I buy it.

[@josefigueroa4738]

I ditch my fold for the One Plus Open ❤

[@marktruong7937]

How can you say the zfold is better if you haven’t even tested the open?

[@Steve-hp5cf]

nowadays it is so easy to make comparison video without real product. nice idea

[@WeiFinder]

I've been running multiple ZFolds for years, just got the OnePlus Open, and wow. No competition, I prefer the OP Open quite literally in every way, except the lack of wireless charging and the "non-official' but probably excellent water resistance.

[@StephonRKell]

Sounds like your trying to convince yourself not to get an open 😂

[@gcforreal]

Bullseye lol

[@Syringey]

EXACTLY. He's secretly jealous of HOW GOOD OnePlus has done it He's just trying to justify his Galaxy This guy is a joke

[@TOPDadAlpha]

I have a zfold.... My 2nd Samsung phone. Samsungs biggest problem is their bloatware. Samsung to my face told be their bloatware CANNOT be deleted or paused. I was also informed by Samsung, their bloatware was #1 customer complaint. Excellent hardware but if bloatware constantly drains the battery then hardware is not anywhere as important.

[@Maxx134a]

Due to Samsung's past monopoly of both the US & Canada market, many aren't aware that Samsung is 2yrs behind all Chinese phones, in hardware dept. 😢

[@jonplay3602]

I owned the z fold 4. The the software was excellent but that outer screen made the phone unusable. I found myself opening the phone wayyy more then I wanted to. I wouldn't get the z fold too small.

[@pdxxtqhf]

Why did you buy a foldable phone if you didn't want to open it????

[@JOHNNYK202]

My s pen on my Fold 4 won't recognise the screen where the crease is. It's ridiculous. My finger can write across the crease but my s pen won't.

[@Maxx134a]

That's because it's not a Bluetooth pen like the Honor majic V2 Ultra foldable, or even a Samsung s23Ultra

[@luxmeister]

I am a Samsung supporter and have a S23 Ultra but Oneplus Open is defo on the right track with foldables imo.

[@MasterCamus]

I think oneplus open is also a good approach. Some people want a regular phone experience on the cover and gaving a mini tablet when wanting to multitask and watch videos

[@team6techs777]

Samsung has gotten complacent. This will push them to continue to innovative. Camera is just basic. The cover screen is too narrow for me. ZF5 wasn't worth upgrading. I almost got the Pixel, glad I didn't. I don't use wireless charging so no deal breaker for me. I can't wait to get my pre-ordered Open! It's the absolute best form factor in the US in my opinion. It also has an IR blaster! Trading in my ZF4. Thank you OnePlus!!!

[@marlon177]

Moved to OpenPlus Open from fold 4 (s22u to fold 3 then fold 4), even my first open had some issue and i have no issue getting refunded from OnePlus but still decided to get another Open after switching back fold 4. Oneplus software is better than fold due to many reason, there are many apps dont need to restart on Open but fold need to force restart it when switching to the inner screen. Hate the different layout on fold, always need to make changes to 2 home screen which is annoying. The only thing i dont like the open is lacking of wireless charging but im getting used to the ultra fast charging. You don't even have open and you said the fold 5 is better is full of bs.

[@ZONAWOLF]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but theirs so many contradictions in this video. It's poorly made. I have the fold 4, and I'm trading it in for the oneplus open. You can't make a video that points out huge strong points like the oneplus fast charging that's 0-100 in 43 minutes vs Samsung 0-100 in around 80 minutes and just say "whatever." Hahaha Then argue wireless charging. I'll take twice the speed to charge over wireless haha Then the front screen? Really? I have small hands and I still can't type on the small screen. Cool story though I guess.

[@techwithbenefits]

My point was that having strong points like faster cable charging and a bigger battery mean nothing if you can't have it charge wirelessly. Wireless Charging is a mass market feature, yes, some people don't care for it, but it's an industry standard for flagship smartphones. I can charge my Fold5 from 0-100% in just over an hour via cable, but I can also conveniently charge it using my wireless chargers at my desk and my bedside table. If you're trying to make the foldable category mainstream, you need mainstream appeal. OnePlus Open just doesn't have that. You say people are entitled to opinions, but market research and statistics are on my side, you just have your opinion. Cool story though, I guess

[@ZONAWOLF]

​@@techwithbenefits What market research and statistics? Lmao Fancy way of just saying flagships should have certain features. Still an opinion. Wireless still niche considering your not using your phone while it's charging. The literal only difference is convenience of setting it down vs plugging it in. Fast charging and bigger battery having nothing to do with wireless charging. At the end of the day, personally my phone lasts longer and charges faster. So yea, cool story 😉 "Samsung gives it to you outta the box so you know what to expect" 😂 That's a crazy way to sell a crease. I wasn't aware that was a benefit of my fold 4.

[@pdxxtqhf]

I hear a lot about the crease. Honestly, when I am looking at the screen straight on, I can't see it. If I turn the phone, I can see it. For me it's not all about the tech specs, it is the whole package. It is the quality of the software running the technology and availability of accessories.

[@morm2173]

Agreed One plus open, Xiaomi Mix fold 3, and Honor Magic and perhaps pixel fold have better designs, however z fold 5 has better software and features. Next year I predict the z fold 6 ultra will take the crown as best Foldable of all time. Samsung has

[@bakedpanda2796]

bro you need to actually get the phone and use it, this review just feels like you are trying to justify why you purchased fold 5 and not everyone uses wireless charging since you have to connect a wire to a dock so i would rather use a cable and connect to the phone directly instead of a dock that can not charge my phone in less then an hour

[@YesH-r8i]

Great points. But this sounds like a comparison between a restaurant that you know and a restaurant you have never stepped a foot in. 😅

[@ChristopherCo]

Agree with you on all of these: -DESIGN -Cover display for convenience -Inner screen for consumption / productivity -Uninterrupted inner screen -Crease (already set expectations) -IPX8 Rating -SOFTWARE -Many optimized apps for both screens -8 Apps in the dock -Scaling for multitasking -Samsung DEX -CAMERA SOFTWARE -SPEN -WIRELESS CHARGING

[@ChristopherCo]

I would love to have a similar or better alternative to Open Canvas.

[@KNGnBLK]

I enjoy the form factor of the open, but Samsung kills it with the software. Maybe the fold 7 will give us something. Since the 6 is going to be pretty much the same as rumor has it.

[@derikdang8829]

Your point-of-view of the "design factor", I very much agree with you 👍.

[@take5DD]

Your point is well taken. But you've missed the mark here. Most people...in most cases...are going to use the outside screen. 75-80% of the time. It's when you're walking around, standing in a bus, or when doing something where the other hand is carrying something, you use the front to browse. When you sit down somewhere, then you open. The slim profile is terrible for pretty much everything. Majority of people dislike the thin screen. You like it? Fine. But you're a small minority. The crease? Please bruh. They aren't trying to hide it because they can't get rid of it. From Version 1 to version 5, they can't figure how to get rid of it. That's why for Version 6, they decided to reverse engineer a Huawei fold. Plus, how do you know all phones will eventually have the crease? Is that going to take place in a year? Two years? How would you know? IPX8? I don't care. I don't plan to swim with it. I've had cell phones since 1995. In almost 30 years, you know how many phones I've totally damaged due to water? One. Dropped my Nokia in the toilet and let it sit for a few seconds while I decided if I was going to go in after it. Software? Software can be updated. Hardware cannot. This fold is inferior to the Open in terms of hardware and it's not close. Every category, it loses. Pen? Everyone uses the pen at first like a novelty toy. But eventually they won't. Guaranteed. Don't need it. Wireless charging? Why would I want to sacrifice efficiency for convenience? If I use wireless charging, it sits there charging at 10-15W. WHy not plug it in and be done 4-5X faster? Makes not sense. Wireless charging makes the battery hot and can damage the battery. Nobody has perfected this yet.

[@hous2tim964]

Personally I use a Z fold 4 and I don't see the point in changing. Maybe next year with the Z fold 6. I hear the criticism about the Samsung Fold but I find that the Samsung Fold provides an interesting experience. Yes Samsung made compromises but it had to. And then for me Samsung was the first to have made the Fold. Samsung innovates a lot while others follow. One of the only brands I respected was Huawei. But for the moment I am a fan of Samsung (my second smartphone is an S23 Ultra) and I see no reason to change at the moment. I find Samsung to be an extremely pragmatic brand.

[@rushfortacos]

Crappy outer screen make you want to use the big screen more? Really.. The crease is horrible from the start to set your expectations? Dude I have a fold 4 even the Samsung crease gets worse lol. So your starting farther along. There's no indication Samsung will put the pen in. Best case scenario is youl get that in 2 years minimum. This is the hardest cope I've seen on this topic. Clearly you see all the reviews praising the open and got mad and are trying to justify the fold 5.

[@powerfuldreams]

As a fold 4 owner the One plus is the best folding phone I've ever used.

[@MikeG-nc5yb]

so samsung start with a crease while others will develop one? doesnt that mean samsungs will get worse?

[@lordforex]

I briefly owned a Fold 3, 4 and now I know a Fold 5. I'm NOT crazy about the outer screen as I find it WAY too narrow to type on. When the OnePlus Open was announced, I loved the look of it. I also loved how they rethought some of the multitasking features. OpenPlus is doing a lot of things right with this phone. Plus the fact they are including the fast charger and a case in the box is a nice perk. I ordered the OnePlus Open last night and will trade in my Fold5 for it (getting $1000). It's time for a change. 🎉 Edit: I also hate the inner screen's under display selfie camera. It's so bad I never use it. Samsung really screwed up including it in a high end phone.

[@arvandvarahram]

Very valid points. As you mentioned, the long-term strategy is important. You have to think about it: this is the 3rd generation (Oppo Find N, N2 and now N3 (=OnePlus Open)) and they changed the design and the aspect ratio completely. As you said they sacrified a lot, also the wireless charging which was there on the previous versions, because they don’t understand their potential customers and they have no vision of their products. The same KZbinrs who praised N2’s design and aspect ratio are now praising this one’s. Simply because they look at the foldables from the perspective of slab phone users and not from the perspective of the book-style foldable users. The perspective of the actual book-style foldable users is this: they want to work on a bigger screen with an aspect ratio close to a tablet, and that bigger screen needs to be portable/pocketable, so exactly what the Z Fold series deliver. The Open has an awkward aspect ratio of the main screen, just to please with the cover screen. But if I wanted to use the cover screen 90% of time, why should I have a foldable at all? I rather buy a full-fledged slap phone, and if I really needed a bigger screen from time to time, I would use for those few cases either a notebook, or a tablet. Oppo, OnePus and the rest do not understand this, the same goes for those reviewers who praise them for making this mistake and therefore they has been failing. The Open/N3 will fail ultimately as well. The foldable market is big, but the portion for the book-style foldables is much smaller than that for flip devices. And the book-style foldable users know what they want. Samsung knows this, too. The rest seems to miss the point.

[@manu4ever249]

ROFL. Have both. OnePlus is miles better. Weight, screen size, multitasking, software experience.

[@techwithbenefits]

You definitely didn't roll around on the floor... that's a bit much if you did

[@jessewintermute8031]

What I miss about Samsung is they really play it safe now. They used to make risky decisions and that's why I gravitated towards them. I'm on the fence about food 5 or one plus open

[@techwithbenefits]

In the early days when they were establishing themselves it definitely made sense to take some risks... but some of those risks cost them dearly (note7, OG Fold). So I think Samsung has solidified things first before throwing stuff out before it's ready. Gives consumers a more refined product and stable experience. We'll see what happens though when a new president comes in..always changes strategy lol

[@MMOsForLife]

Wow. You don't even have the Open Plus Open. Time to update this video.

[@disciple37mt]

The fold 5 is the best foldable period! Pen, flex, and dex alone separate it from all foldable devices!

[@gokuafrica]

Pen and dex I agree are good. What is flex? 😂

[@Steve-hp5cf]

do you have fold 5?

[@Papa_Giuseppe]

Most people want to use to inner screen only 20% of the time The Samsung is too skinny to be practical. And you don't want to unfold just to reply to texts.

[@Ian-u1k]

Does the Samsung Fold 5 have a IR Blaster or 3 speakers?

[@calebmays4390]

Videos on KZbin & Netflix appear noticeably bigger on the Z Fold because of its form Factor. The Z fold in my opinion is better for media consumption in general.

[@Fricc-sg4np]

Good points. I have the Fold 5. I love my fold. I think the biggest point that I didn't think about was the crease on other phones getting messed up over time. One plus did say 100 folds a day for 10 years. I wonder how soon you start to see a crease.

[@shoelace5464]

Since Oneplus uses a Teardrop fold, it should have less stress on the screen's bend. If, at all, a crease starts to show, it's unlikely it would be as pronounced as the Galaxy fold's crease.

[@dextercumberbatch4334]

What are you going to say next year when Samsung widens the outer screen?

[@kimbridge5592]

Yet no one complains about Apple being slow with things. The new open looks great. The fold 5 is my first fold. I have been waiting for it to be polished. I don't want my cover display to be too wide. Sure, a little wider would be nice. I don't have small hands. But when you only use one phone every day it is easier to get used to. And it is easier to make calls when it is not too wide to hold. I agree that you are supposed to use the inner display. make the front too wide, and you will hardly use the big screen. Even now, I use the cover display more than I thought I would have. And I don't use the inner camera, so I am so glad the fold has it under the screen. But it's there if I need it. And the camera on the back of the open is huge, which is ok, but it's going to get in the way. I even like the thin s pen on the new case of the fold 5.

[@TheStreetMechanik]

The software on the Fold wins but the form factor and the open canvas of the OnePlus wins.

[@jfred5338]

From your video, you haven't got your hands on a Oneplus Open yet? I have a Fold 5 now, and from all the reviews I've watched, I want one. I've always been a Oneplus fan, but the carriers always screwed up with dual sim. Now that carriers are left out, I Oneplus is out full force.

[@techwithbenefits]

I have not got my hands on one. I watched other people's content who had got their hands on it and formed the opinion that my fold5 is still better overall and made a video. You've done the same thing, watched other people's content, but determined you would like it and wrote a comment on my video and then decided to buy it

[@sergebureau2225]

You are totally wrong, DESIGN ??? The OnePlus is better on every aspect, how much are you paid for such ludicrous review ???? You totally lost credibility here.

[@alejandrozuniga4706]

Had the fold 4. Have the OnePlus Open. Best decision I ever made. It is the best design, I've had it in my hand fot months.

[@DJ_Darkstar]

You can get the Oppo pen. You can add (slow)wireless charging on any phone. You cannot ADD warp charging. What good is a pen when writing on the inner display is like driving into a pothole with that huge crease. This is technically the third Gen for Oppo/OnePlus. The crease is not getting any worse over time. No one has shown a worn crease at all for OnePlus You clearly haven't used Open Canvas. You can have 4 apps with at once without sacrifice of size along with drag and drop. You haven't really seen the OnePlus camera software, have you? It gets better every update but those Hasselblad cameras are truly game changing. The moon pictures are better than even the S23 Ultra. The only thing OnePlus hasn't released is a proper desktop mode. That's software. It can be added. So that means you only really have 2 semi valid points. It's tested for 5x the folds over Samsung. Samsung design is too thin when closed. Why not have both options instead of being pigeonholed into only one or the other forcing you to use the tiny outer screen & keyboard? OnePlus Open takes better pictures... It officially has the best cameras in the foldable market. Thanks for the clickbait. OnePlus still wins. This video hasn't aged well.

[@techwithbenefits]

I 110% stand by everything I said

[@NazarenoFeitosa]

Thanks for the video! Some people say that that Oneplus Open accepts an stylus like his twin brother Oppo find N3. Please check it.

[@delamain1559]

No need to check it, that's the case.. oneplus didn't work on the Oppo find n3, it just quickly changed the look and wrote hassleblad, the screen (by the way it's that of a z which was used on the z fold 3 which tends to mark the fold after 1 month so the non-existent fold argument is a sign of fragility) but as a result they forgot to remove the compatibility with the stylus sold only in China xD so it works with a stylus..

[@WarchiefTomi]

I agree with everything you said. Great video, it gave me a different perspective on foldable phones. But I think the external screen should be wider in order to make the transition easier. Yes, if the screen is wider, people are going to use the inner one less often, but also they will be more leaned to buy a foldable because it fits their daily needs and when they see the uses of the inner screen, that's when those smartphones will become massive. I think the ratio of the outer screen makes the Galaxy Fold harder to sell to the average person. But I'm impressed with the way Samsung has improved their Z line.

[@inmemoryofcoco-sj2275]

Software integration: valid point

[@TheHertzWeb]

Fold 2 and now 5 user here. The only draw back of the Oppo that I see is lack of wireless charging, it's a better phone in most other ways. The Fold 5 was a disappointment because it's exactly the same feeling phone as the Fold 2 just faster with a better screen (I know it's more than that). The form factor and camera has been lazy and I wish they would make the display cover wider. The positive here is Oppo, Google, Xiaomi and Honour are properly competing now, with solid products, so Samsung have to start trying or they'll be out niched next year and I'll be moving on, so will others

[@386vwade]

Love ya videos…. What’s your daily driver? Ultra or Fold?

[@techwithbenefits]

Thank you 🙏 on the Fold5 right now. I usually switch every 6 months between the Ultra & Fold. Just to learn the ins and outs of both!

[@TheAndrewanyanwu]

Your cheque from Samsung will be in the post soon 😂

[@decki86]

Maybe don’t critique before any hands on experience.

[@jeffwoodard]

I would gladly take a punch hole camera on the inner screen over the terrible under screen camera. Might as well have not even had one. I don't know anyone that likes it. Quality is just terrible. I do think the samsung has a better form factor. great for one hand use.

[@techwithbenefits]

You're missing the point of that camera though. It's not for anything other than video calling. Got plenty of other ways to take selfies on the fold 5

[@krzysztofkenobi8072]

You are totaly wrong. You open folded phone when you need it, to have big picture, video, game, when you need to work on multiply apps. But 1st most importaint thing is this is a phone. Phone !!!!. You need to operate by one hand so when its folded. Zfold is to narrow. I make too much mistakes when typing and after that need to unfold it. This is wrong !!!!. Regarding cameras I wont argue but Im not very happy about Zfold 4 cameres, hate the camera software in samsumg. Dont know what Open will offer. One small pinch in corner is no problem, of couse samsung is better. Crease in Zfold is terrible, and you dont know whow if crease in open will grow in time. Never used stylus and never felt I need it for my fold4 and open will probaby have stylus soon, configurstion menu is prepared for stylu. Wireles chargin looses lot of energy, heats up phone and its slow. I dont need to charge fold4 at day at home, connect it at night when go sleep, slow and safe for battery. I bough magsafe powerbank for holiday trips, but stopped using it after 5 minuts becouse its so slow, on vacation much more importaint is fast charging, after half day of making photos, connect, 40minuts and done. Bixby, installed, unnistaleed forgot. Additionaly what I hate in samsung is all their apps. Half of them even cannot be unistaled or turned off. That why im going to fold my Samsung and will open Oneplus ;-)

[@BenAfia]

Great points. Have you played with the Open yet? Has it changed your opinion on the Z at all?

[@abdullahisanidodo2876]

I remember them comparing open to random pro max and random ultra(we don't even know if its samsung)

[@localblackman427]

I fully agree. Samsung has taken the time to work with developers to make the foldable/tablet space actually attractive for these other foldable players. While others are focusing on making sweet hardware and making things thin, samsung is doing a lot of groundwork which everyone will inevitably need. I just want them to steal the open canvas thing from one plus to have as an optional way to multitask. That can come in handy for sure on my fold 4. Plus with samsug dex, there's just nothing else that can replace it the same exact way. Especially when I'm carrying a pair of xreal airs in my bag I 100% agree with the first part. It's what I was saying to one of my friends. You're supposed to want to open it that's what samsung wanted to create. It doesn't mean the others are bad but the goal for samsung was to put a tablet in your pocket, not give you a phone that turns into one. Unbox therapy was saying on his fold vs pixel that he found himself angry that he was using the front display on the pixel so much and not using it as a tablet. If you want a slab phone, get a slab phone. And yes! Spen support is another thing, especially when they can put it _inside_ the phone. That's a whole different aspect of putting a tablet in your pocket. I think the inner display camera is trivial but the only thing samsung is missing is proper periscope camera which is almost a standard now. It's frustrating not being able to capture a parking sign from for way. The Open/N3 is definitely cool and more ppl will like it but it's still not a fold in the same way more ppl wanted regular slabs more but none of those were the galaxy note. Great video

[@jacksonburger2081]

I used the fold for many months and got so tired of using the useless front screen and opening it all the time that I switched back to my old phone. You don’t want to open it if it just annoys you to open all the time.

[@localblackman427]

@@jacksonburger2081 good thing theres a lot of different foldables out there! Not everything is for every body

[@yousof5720]

Love ur content man, keep up the good work 👏

[@312kek]

That's the next level of comparison. Holding just one phone, and guess about his opponent

[@techwithbenefits]

It's good ay

[@nestorpujols2919]

I disagree completely with everything you said. This is the 5th iteration of the Z Fold 5. By now, we should not have to wait for the next gen Z Fold to iron anything. This phone should have been better compared to the Z Fold 4.

[@GallantKnight98]

Love this video! I agree with all of this...Love the Oneplus Open design but I think it's falling into the enthusiast market that the Sony Xperia customer falls into.

[@techwithbenefits]

Right! That's a really good way of putting it too.

[@jacksonburger2081]

Explain. How?

[@saicharanmobile6786]

If your theory of having such a narrow cover screen is true fact then let's wait and see next 2 generations of fold from Samsung if they stick to the same narrow screen. It's just a advertisement tactics. I'm a user of Samsung from past 10 years and typing this comment from S22 ultra. Worst form factor of Samsung fold. I'm just blown by Oneplus form factor. Hatsoff. They need to focus a lot on UI side with Samsung which is very very tough and stylus support

[@kachuremal9045]

Problem is the inside screen is good to die within 3 years. I need an actual normal sized outside screen so I can still use the phone after...

[@suberizedwrx]

Samsung needs to do this for the US phone market. 1) Dual physical sim phones! 2) Faster wireless charging AND/OR wired charging! Samsung's wired and wireless charging are not superior but should be for a "leading" company with supposedly top notch R&D. Those two features alone have been options with other manufactures for years but NOT Samsung in the US market?! Some might call it trivial...but overall...so could the Snapdragon/Exynos debate regarding actual real world performance. Rumor has it that DEX is going to have competition in the future as the android OS makes it standard versus "proprietary" on future phones. The Oneplus cameras (tele and UW) are better and can be made even better with 3rd party camera apps. The software/desktop layout is subjective. People use different launchers as well, bypassing the default GUI. Security is going to be important. Samsung's secure folder is nice...and this is one area that I don't believe Oneplus matches up. Overall, I'll be keeping an eye on all phones being released in the next 6-12 months as I'm looking to upgrade from a Note.