Q & A + Waterproofing 2.0

[@yohanns6387]

Hi, I just started watching you and Steele. You guys are great. Amazing flying and just nice people. Thanks for the videos.

[@DerickPelser]

Kevin, I live north of Atlanta and we had more ice than snow. I was careful not to get my quad wet but that was not my issues as I almost froze. My fingers was frozen which made flying almost impossible. Anyway I got some nice video. PS welcome back!! we missed your videos...

[@AnotherLameYTchannel]

I pre ordered a MOSKITO 70 and can't wait to get some indoor winter flying in. Should be here next week.

[@davidingram7997]

Thanks so much for taking the time to answer my questions. Unfortunately I've been blessed with two left feet so ballet is not my forte. I do hope that my names sake has continued his passion though. Really interesting to hear real facts from a real pilot in relation to the unthinkable ever happening in our hobby. Thanks again Stingy!

[@MarcChep]

I baked a graphics card once, and it worked. I dont know if it was just a temporary fix, but it worked long enough for my purpose. Great video btw Stingy!

[@rolandescher]

Excellent advice to use silicone conformal coating on electronics and save CorrosionX for the connectors! That makes perfect sense. Thank you!

[@twiztedmind864]

Im currently reading the ham radio license manual. A lot of good info and the full pool of possible questions in the back as well as a glossary. I was gonna take the test tomorrow, but holiday travel got in the way. Also, I saw some bad damage from a goose on a gulfstream at work, had to replace 90% of the nose.

[@lcurole]

The coating is uv activated so you can see if you've missed a spot with a uv light.

[@donaldtrump5489]

+do 3 coats

[@RAD-RC]

We have plenty of snow here in Ohio if you want some, and driving in the snow isn't that bad, I just did it for the first time about 30 minutes ago and it was great!

[@MikeAarset]

Just as a tip to help others. I used the Conformal Coating Enamel version and treated my XHOVER PDB with the built in 5V and 12V regulator. I think I got the stuff a little thick on the 5V regulator and it smoked one me. I think it is very important to make lite coats on the PDB or other components that generate heat.

[@SurvivalistMedia]

I use acrylic and corrosionx painted on the hot spots. Have had several dumps in the snow. Even flew with the frame packed with snow. Unstoppable

[@AveryCaudill]

SurvivalistMedia is just corrosion X OK?

[@SurvivalistMedia]

AveryFpv I used just corrosion x and flew maybe 10 batts in the cold. Had a TBS micro trans start receiving a constant 1400 throttle input at all times. ESCs Blheli30s, PDB Armattan F1, Fury F3 all fine, but the TBS went bad. Don't know if it was the cold or the wet, but that's when I added the acrylic. New TBS has been fine for over 40+ batts and 5 big snow crashes. Flown wet, and I mean drenched with corrosionx alone, but can't claim 100s of problem free flights. It was 7 degrees F when the TBS died.

[@AveryCaudill]

SurvivalistMedia OK thanks

[@HenryRollins26]

Gateway electronics in STL... The biggest store that I ever came across here didn't know what silicone conformal coating was nor stocked it. Just got my order in for some. Anxious to build!

[@Steven-jq8jj]

You have a legit career. That should take priority. By far my favorite. Keep fighting the good fight

[@joolsenticknap6855]

Great Q&A session, looking forward to seeing you guys ripping in the snow !

[@yorbfpv]

My Echo answered your knots conversion question too 😂 Really helpful stuff though, thanks for discussing HAM licenses, airspace concerns, and snow waterproofing. 👍

[@AirborneAfro]

VIDEO IDEA For You: Do a prop guess challenge to see if you guys can notice the difference in the props you use. For example, Mr Steele does not know what props you set him up with, and he has to fly his drone and then guess. You can use the Fatsharks as blind folds.

[@stingersswarm]

Not a bad idea. I'm gonna give it a go.

[@mtlracing1567]

yup sounds cool

[@iforce2d]

Yeah I was thinking this yesterday too. Steele is always going on about how many grams this or that prop weighs... I wonder can he really tell? For one run, put a mix of all different props on each motor and see what he says about that too :D

[@AirborneAfro]

That would be hilarious!!!

[@slothFPV]

iforce2d it actually works aswell

[@MattyfleischFPV]

Would love to see a video where you take us through all the steps building your quad!!!

[@umbertocvl7459]

Hi to everybody. Good trick. I may suggest also the nails polish. Work really well and it can be removed easily with acetone. Keep doing! Thanks for Your videos!

[@TurtleBrownFpvou812]

duuude. after this snow we have been having im.about ready to try waterproofing

[@matthewmcgann2931]

Nice. Was flying my conformal coated kiss build in the snow today!

[@ohioplanespotting1300]

We missed you!

[@3timesagain.]

13th, I REALLY needed this as it's very wet in England, thanks great video

[@aaronevan4065]

KWADS FTW yes he had the silicon stuff. The acrylic will work but the silicon is better but is sold out on amazon. The acrylic is available at this time

[@tylerwilliams786]

love the content, you should do a video on your pids and wht your settings are,im sure theres alot of guys curios. great job swarmmie!

[@parcoforer3335]

Great solution. Thanks for all your help. Love your vlog so much

[@octapc]

conformal coating should be done before building the quad, to ensure all electrical parts gets coated. This is what FliteTest did. Also, a conformal coating which is visible under UV light to ensure you haven't missed any crucial parts. Don't hesitate to coat bare wires as well. In fact the motors could be done as well. Once built, coat the parts that are clearly not coated. If you have already built the quad, just dunk it in a container full of conformal coating, without the motors. Will add extra weight and will need to be re-coated in the areas where repairs are being done.

[@BerriBerriJam]

Really helpful tip at 18:00 where you say you don't use conformal coating on the connectors like USB ports because they will either prevent electrical connection or rub off, so you apply Corrosion X instead. Do you think you could use this waterproofing technique to turn your Sony RX 100 V camera to become weather proof? At least use the Corrosion X for all the connector, buttons, gaps on your camera so that it becomes weather proof. They'll be lots of camera buffs who would like to weather proof their cameras if this technique works.

[@f1uxcapacitor488]

missed ur vlogs stingy. lol. good to see u make more footage:) happy flying

[@xDownSetx]

Louis was speaking about Flip-Chip design packages specifically. If people are calling you out based on that they are goofin' hard. I don't think a flip-chip package has ever found its way onto a quad part, especially the cheesy VTX's we have to deal with.

[@owencroney2089]

Getting into the city during a snow storm...... a snowboard or ski's and an xclass drone.....the city is yours ;)

[@_visuallycaptured1628]

Gottta try this out !

[@cartergreene5571]

lol, when you asked Alexa about that speed conversion, the echo dot on my desk answered at the same time as yours.

[@bswc2021]

thanks for all your videos and knowledge. I was wondering if you could do a how to add LEDs to a quad copter video

[@MG-ee3rp]

Thank you Stinger swarm For is great idea now I can fly in the rain. Yes

[@refuzeus6911]

Nice vid as always. Just a tip for future Q&A, could you put the questions on screen while you read them? It helps easier skip to next question if you are not interested in some of questions(for example licenses to fly in US being from Europe :) ). I can get along without these, but would be nice.

[@IrishChevron]

Thank you for the info. i was wondering about water proofing motors and the windings. so. i dont need to worry about that. thanks

[@chrissieracki2959]

Here in Maine, it is important to keep the snow out of the motors cuz when you crash in the snow, the warm motor melts the snow, filling the motor with water and then when you get ready to take off, the motors can sieze. So I have put plastic caps over the motor vents on the bell. Problem solved, fly for hours.

[@seattleitefpv]

You may be interfering with the cooling process, though if you fly in cold weather I suspect it's not a big deal.

[@chrissieracki2959]

seattleite09 Probably not a problem when it is 10 or 20 degrees outside. The motors do not even feel warm

[@chrissieracki2959]

seattleite09 Actually the motors might be better off with reduced cooling. I bet they are not designed to work in cold temps

[@ponyboyfpv3552]

Nice Vid. I've always been opposed to the whole kiss thing, with that being said, I just finished my kiss r5lx today lol. I also have the revolt and i think the same thing about my rig using xs30a and a couple different sets of motors, it's great but I can't make that mid throttle go away.

[@theibault]

I hope we get to see you fly in Snowmageddon 2 Conformal Coated Boogaloo .

[@stingersswarm]

Haha!!! Spoiler alert. All we got was freezing rain. Working on a new edit from flying in the Ice Garden now. Don't worry though it is supposed to rain all next weekend so I'll be doing plenty of comparison between the two then.

[@spencerpeters5129]

StingersSwarm We got less than an inch in NC, and we're all trapped inside our homes.

[@MystikSquash]

Hope your doing well.

[@starshipfpv]

my brother was stuck in the Atlanta snow storm. I'm in Houston if it snows out here an inch people freak out

[@Wicket_78]

great content Stingy!

[@jamesmanderson5311]

pretty awesome video thanks i really enjoyed it Scott aka Demolition

[@BlitzK]

I'm still using an ATI videocard that I reflowed in the oven 3 years ago. It was used as a bitcoin miner for a year....

[@adamk.3946]

I use the turnigy lipo warmer to keep my lipos nice and warm pre-flight in the winter and it's AWESOME! Do you keep your lipos warmed in a similar method or at all? Also have you tried 4" with 5s lipos? I find its kind of like 4s with 5" and hits that "sweet spot". I'm using 2206 2300kv motors with 4x4x3 props and it blows my 5" quads out of the water with speed and agility. just awesome. thanks man!

[@damonbfpv]

im not going to lie ,i was checking your channel everyday the past few days lol

[@666Charc0al666]

Me 2.. I was like where's stingy gone?

[@AlbertKimTV]

Is acrylic conformal coating just as good as the silicone version?

[@mrtoaf3278]

Thanks for the answer!

[@TorchFpv]

Flying outa Atlanta Monday to Jamaica are you working Monday ;-) lol jk .. Great video can't wait for the next one have a good one my friend!!

[@GoFlyYourselves]

Thanks for the video. Q: do you coat the bottom of the boards as well?

[@JaydenLawson]

Great work on the video a day for a month thing! Didn't see them all, but saw a couple and they were great! Can you share some of the stats on what your view and Sub count increase were as a result please?

[@stingersswarm]

I was blown away by how well I did. Check out the stats on socialblade.com or similar sites if you are interested. For me, going over it in a video feels too much like tooting my own horn. I've never really been a bragger.

[@JaydenLawson]

Wow, that's awesome about being blown away! Hard work pays off it seems. Yeah that's cool about not doing a video about it - I'd be the same. Some simple stats in a comment would be amazing, as I'm a very interested community member who is starting my own youtube thing involving FPV in Australia :) I will check out socialblade also - thanks!

[@JaydenLawson]

Actually - socialblade looks like it'll answer my question. Thanks heaps, and keep up the great work!

[@AceMgy]

Thanks for another community questions! Also, I sent a wall of text asking about airspaces and drones in private messages. Just reminding you here since I know KZbin doesn't make it very easy or intuitive to know you've received one.

[@trcpath]

Hey Stingy. As an A&P and pilot I think the absolute worst case would be a light helicopter. You've got 4 inches of plexi in front of your face that can take 350+ KIAS of Canadian Goose and like you said, engine out isn't all that bad. Light heli I picture more as a windshield 'splosion. Just my two cents. Also, I know your Xhover but you seem to prefer underslung battery and mid size 'decks' as opposed to Steel and Chad who fly aliens. Comments on that?

[@banditmr2975]

First time watching your video.. Great advice to get the HAM license. I will definitely do that.. One Question. Did you register with the FAA for flying your FPV quads?

[@MIKEYDREADFPV]

great vid stingy thanks.

[@ir_badger]

i imagine these videos will be really useful for us Brits xD seeing as our weather is 90% rain

[@maurygold74]

I have a question: Drone retrieval from a rooftop?? How do you guys do it, or even tree removal what do you guys use? Why do you fly the immersion VTX over TBS?

[@maurygold74]

I would assume you'd want the extra strength from the 800mw VTX

[@maurygold74]

One more question: Have you tried racekraft props? Steele talked about the, what's your opinion?

[@maurygold74]

Last one: Blackbox logs, do you use them??

[@ljarvie77]

You ever fly to GRR? We have some snow.

[@DrFrantic77]

what do you think, after a year about the waterprofing ?

[@madyet5235]

Love the video on con-formal coating, can you tell me what if anything needs to be done to the battery? spray that with the corrosion x on the xt60 and balance plug or? thoughts?

[@timmerz8569]

the rodeo 110 is a nice 110mm

[@elydriscoll3392]

Do you have any tips for flying in sub zero temperatures?

[@CarterColeisInfamous]

Wont it blow the engine up if its got any metal?

[@MARLEYMATRIX]

Would using liquid electrical tape do that same thing to make everything waterproof?

[@gdreeker]

Can you use conformal coating acrylic instead of thE silicone? What is the difference between the silicone and the acrylic versions.

[@GatAppTechnologies]

Just found this video...do you waterproof the bottom of your FC as well? looking to waterproof a drone and wanted to make sure it can survive a good rain fall

[@Ditcha1]

No heatshrink on the escs do you just use insulating tape ?

[@PopWoodworking]

When you asked your Alexa the speed conversion question, mine responded! Thanks for not ordering a quad and cookies.

[@dronexfun8469]

There is a flight path directly above my house, how do I find out the altitude of the aircraft? Thanks a million.

[@noladroneworxllc3115]

flite test did a video with Corrosion x and advised that you use marine version for esc's?? thoughts or experiences? I should probably finish watching your video first. thanks. ski in!

[@sk8rix24]

Clean it before putting the silicon coasting ?

[@scirockalot8v]

i just used the acrylic conformal coating today. dumped it in the snow a few times. so far so good.

[@stingersswarm]

Nice.

[@thespencerowen]

Did you do the ESCs too? I've heard waterproofing ESCs doesn't always work.

[@scirockalot8v]

Spencer Owen well I coated them, heatshrinked them, and wrapped them to the arms with electrical tape. just have to keep running them.

[@flyt129]

Do you need the ham licens in general to fly fpv in the US or is it just unlocking the ability to use higher transmission power for your video and controls?

[@MasterHaunter]

Kevin, are you ONLY using the silicone conformal and ONLY corrosion x on the connectors? Or did you cover everything first with X and then cover with Conformal? Thanks you Beast!

[@sk8rix24]

Hi Kevin, could I use Isopropyl Alcohol to clean my fc?

[@Redneck5]

How did you water proof your fpv gear?

[@logo8009]

Hey great vid. You said in a few videos ago you ran a lot of expo care to elaborate? May be what DPS and or expo on your 5". Thanks

[@thebridgeninja]

I think I'm going to get some of that junk so I can fly in the snow up north here. Is it cheap? Local stores carry that stuff?

[@stingersswarm]

+Kris Lewis Link in the description. Might be hard to find locally.

[@craig2809]

stingy, I was worried you were flying when that ground crew was closed up in the plane in Charlotte

[@MassieDesign1]

On the waterproofing side is there any waterproofing that needs done to the lipos besides the connector. with the thunderpower 4s lipos it looks like water can get in side where the wires go in, should this be addressed or not

[@cup_and_cone]

12:03 - Aren't commercial airplane cockpit windscreens rated/tested for bird strikes? Or am I mislead? Carbon density is lower than bone, plastic even less. Unless it's perfect scenario of an aluminum prop nut hitting dead-on (in which case the drone is going horizontal and not even climbing), the windshield would just crack, no? I doubt a runaway/failsafe drone could climb up to 20,000ft where a plane is at full cruise speed. Any strike would be low altitudes at approach or TO ascent...the same places bird strikes are most common.

[@stingersswarm]

Speed restriction below 10,000 ft is 250 knots. I gave it worst case that a quad would reach. I go 250 knots at 2,000' almost daily when I'm working.

[@cup_and_cone]

Thanks for the reply, Stingy. I definitely agree with you. I was just being sightly more optimistic that I don't think a pilot would likely be injured.

[@rylanbennigson5637]

how long do the Corrosion X and the conformal coating last before you need to put on another coat?

[@1118mschenk1118]

Why is conformal coating the recommended product for quads? Could you use a clear nail polish or something like Plasti-Dip instead? It is hard to get conformal coating in Canada for some reason.

[@3DpastorDOTblogspot]

My Alexa answered / responded to your question! :-)

[@arni291]

I always wondered if you're using any OSD or telemetry voltage reader on your quads. None of these are listed on the build so my guess you're just using timer. I'm getting into fpv and I'm gonna use 1500mah 4s batteries. What flight times I should get with that battery and 5 inch props?

[@stingersswarm]

Mostly I rely on the timer but I use telemetry also.

[@stingersswarm]

Oh and I have no idea for your timer. Too many variables. Just start low and do some experimenting until you work it out.

[@foxurgaming]

If you waterproof the leads (especially the USB port), how is that still usable? Shouldn't it prevent any connection? What do you do if you have to resolder something? Does the conformal coat burn? Thanks!

[@therealjonnyd]

You would use CorrosionX for connectors. "CorrosionX bonds with an underlying metal conductor as a Fluid Thin Film Coating (FTFC) that is just one molecule thick (0.0004"); when you place two such treated conductors in contact with each other, the resistance between them is only about 0.1 Ohm. So why doesn't it short out adjacent conductors? A separation of even just a faction of a millimeter is so many molecules wide that it exhibits a resistance beyond the billions of Ohms that our instrumentation can measure. In practical terms, it's an insulator." As far as the conformal coating burning, yes, you can simply solder through it.

[@ThePartnerBros]

How does the corrosion X on the connectors work ? It doesn't make any sense to me because to prevent short circuit you have to prevent a connection but how would they still work if they did that? Thanks.

[@amadorcorona4484]

Your link is for acrylic coating. You are using silicone coating, correct?

[@stingersswarm]

Yeah, I slipped up on that one. I've fixed it though. Sorry, my bad.

[@amadorcorona4484]

StingersSwarm no worries. Dig the videos. Thanks

[@fpvkabo]

465 melting point of solder seems to me is NOT melting at 455?

[@TheWowcol]

How do you remove conformal coating after say your esc melts?

[@jlgaustin]

I am assuming that the conformal coating is no longer flammable after drying? I got a bottle and there are tons of warnings on it about how flammable it is and to keep away from heat etc. So after it has dried and you have to re-solder something I am assuming that is ok and not going to flame up. Also if you re-solder something do you need to reapply the conformal coating to that area? Thanks!

[@stingersswarm]

+Jason Graham Yep its fine to solder through it. Also re apply after and solder work.

[@JacobBlocker]

I just built my first quad and got it all setup today and i looked outside to see snow. Like the 1 day come on.....

[@stingersswarm]

lol good luck. You'll be having a blast in no time.

[@corbind7886]

How often do you damage a motor that either need to be entirely replaced or the bell/shaft changed? Are there any motors that you can buy just the bell for?

[@stingersswarm]

IDK maybe one or two a month. Some motors they do sell just the bell.

[@KevinFrenchpiisceiss]

Snowmagheddon in Atlanta ? So like 3in...

[@kevinjulievan]

i've been using acrylic conformal coating for waterproofing over the past year any idea if silicone conformal coating is better?

[@AveryCaudill]

any real benefit of the silicon over corrosion other than looks etc? don't want to buy both 😂😂

[@coolkid1105prod]

Hey guys. I have a question about waterproofing. Do any of ya'll think WD-40 is useful for waterproofing quads? I didn't think WD-40 would help with waterproofing. I have experienced WD-40 with multirotor parts (SunnySky 2300kv Motor, Kiss 18a ESC, Hovership PDB, and a 4S LiPo battery) but once I placed it in water, my setup will work for only a few seconds, and then the ESC stopped working once I unplugged my setup and replug it back in. I only dipped the motor in the water when this happened.

[@nathansorling1991]

.45 cal paintball proofing?

[@beau6521]

Anything wrong with just dipping an entire drone in corrosion x hd?

[@stingersswarm]

It will be so oily and gross. Don't do it.

[@juan.gonzalez]

I wonder, if that 'CorrosionX' thing is an electrical insulator then, how will the USB port still work after you've covered the connections with it? Or any of the other ports?

[@stingersswarm]

I can't explain it but it works. I guess the metal to metal contact is still made, but the oil prevents water and air from making contact.

[@WKfpv]

StingersSwarm I was wondering the same thing. maybe corrosionx just peels of when you push the other connector in.

[@lucasg2504]

Why don't you use the xm+ it's half the size of the xsr, and has full range.

[@stingersswarm]

No telemetry. Plus the XSR is plenty small enough for my needs. If I build a 150 or something smaller I'd try the xm+.

[@slothFPV]

Rc Addict with planes no telemetry