Stoke to Piccadilly

UHD Stoke on Trent to Piccadilly in a Northern Railway Class 323. We follow the Trent and Mersey Canal for the first part of the journey until it leaves us at Kidsgrove, stained by iron oxide deposits from Harecastle Tunnel. Then out into the Cheshire countryside at 90 mph along this LNWR route. See the effects of not applying the handbrake properly when parking beside the railway and learn how the Ansaldo signalling project of the early 2000s never came to be but left us with a fine legacy of five mechanical lever signal boxes. It’s really nice clear footage for the best part of an hour.

[@trainmanbob]

Hi Don. Please do not apologise for discussing and pointing out the real railway. What makes your videos so enjoyable is the wealth of information you impart to us. Thanks for sharing. Cheers, Bob

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks Bob. I get a bit worried that my waxing lyrical about the railway and its creators might become boring but thankfully, many watchers appreciate it.

[@peterturnball8310]

I know nothing about engineering, but that doesn't stop the snippets of info being fascinating and enjoyable.

[@doncoffey5820]

Glad you liked it Peter.

[@dingotookmybaby5557]

The Driver's eye perspective is something that the average person never got to see until recent years when these types of videos started to appear. The English country scenery is wonderful and the information given is always interesting, especially when it's about engineering or something that is very old. Great video, much appreciated.

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks for the positive feedback.

[@SDMSAUDI]

Thank you Don. As always, not just about the train but points/ places of interest, civil engineering and architecture etc etc. Always so enjoyable

[@doncoffey5820]

Sorry for late reply, it didn’t show up in my pending list. Thanks Mike. Glad you enjoyed it.

[@exileinderby51]

You don't have to apologise for 'waxing lyrical' about railway architecture as we often need reminding that the majority of railway infrastructure was built by hand in the Victorian era. Thanks for uploading another informative video.

[@doncoffey5820]

Sorry for late reply, it didn’t show up in my pending list. I love the architecture and trying to work out how they did it.

[@tonymarsh5449]

My local line Don, I've travelled this route for many years and it's great to see it from the cab, it looks so different from the drivers perspective but knowing the local landmarks and stations makes it all the more enjoyable, many thanks for putting this up.

[@doncoffey5820]

Glad you enjoyed it Tony.

[@devilsadvocate1218]

Once again, another entertaining and informative video. You just get better with every one. Many thanks Don.

[@karenking4271]

A very pleasant ride, and I love the info , great stuff... thankyou for sharing, Don :)

[@bcu567obzx]

Just so professional Don, the little extra's make it really nice to watch and enjoy, thanks for that.

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks Peter.

[@diegohurwitz]

Another wonderful video. Thanks so much for posting :)

[@bobbrooks266]

What can you say other than Fantastic video and a Train with its horn singing perfect . Thanks once again for posting it and supplying so much information.

[@antonydicesare4632]

Another blockbuster, superb

[@binarysignals9593]

Much appreciate you cataloging all these routes.

[@doncoffey5820]

Glad you enjoy and appreciate it.

[@jimgraham6861]

Don, you are the master!! Please do more of these, an Aussie fan...

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks Jim.

[@DEREKM5903]

Thanks for Brilliant Video, , Love watching them

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks Derek.

[@andrewmedina]

Brilliant! Thank you. Informative and interesting to see from a driver's viewpoint the lines that I have travelled on regularly for over forty years!

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks Andy

[@sirsquirrel0]

I love the acceleration and quietness of this train. 👍 Thanks for the great videos

[@doncoffey5820]

Thank you very much! Yes, they are perfect for that high acceleration stop start work.

[@emlynn1004]

Another great trip! Thank you for the wonderful commentary.

[@doncoffey5820]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@Phleeper]

Thanks for uploading. I've travelled this route literally hundreds of times but not had a drivers view till now.

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks Paul. There isn’t anybody with more than the slightest interest in the railway that doesn’t appreciate a look out front. It is interesting and I’m lucky I get the permission to let you have a look.

[@bobmacdonald6183]

Excellent. The added info improves the video very much. Thankyou. Very much enjoyed.

[@doncoffey5820]

Cheers Bob, thank you.

[@philipalldred5038]

Great to have you back Don, another super informative video most enjoyable.

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks Phillip. I do a job share now and had a holiday and my work weeks so couldn’t get to it. I’ll be doing the next one soon.

[@winders128]

Excellent video. Such good definition. Like the captions. Thanks for posting

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks david. They leave me in 2.7k UHD but KZbin doesn’t always pass them on that good!

[@serecoteco]

Thanks for presentation. The rails along the United Kingdom are amazing. Thanks for sharing the history along the trip.

[@doncoffey5820]

Thank you, much appreciated.

[@anthonychallis2472]

Once again a really informative video, thanks.

[@doncoffey5820]

Sorry for late reply, it didn’t show up in my pending list. Thanks Anthony.

[@jon99t]

thank Don another great blogs and you notes made it better to watch

[@doncoffey5820]

Cheers Jon. Glad you liked it.

[@mickboakes7023]

Another great rail trip Don. The snippets of information along the way make it so much more pleasurable. Wish other sites would do the same. The fact that you do it makes you the best. Look forward to your next one. All the very best Mick.

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks Mick. The next one will be out later this week.

[@samharper5881]

Awesome video and your explanations throughout were just terrific.

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks Sam.

[@simonbaxter8001]

Great video. Nice to see you mention Woodford Airfield (the site of my employment for nearly 20 years) and I've lived and travelled this route for over 35 years and never knew about Mayfield station !! You learn something new every day. Thanks again Don!

[@TheAudiostud]

Have to carry on watching the rest of this video as I didn't realise the time, to in grossed in your work, which I really enjoy as not only is the quality superb but the information that come with means I watch them twice! Yep, first time for your info second time sit back and relax enjoy the ride, thank you for all the hard work and effort you put into your productions as I for one really appreciate it

[@doncoffey5820]

I think even watching both times you see different things the second so it isn’t a bad idea at all.

[@andrewhill5622]

Really enjoyed that. Thank you

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks Andrew.

[@JonoTravels]

Don, I discovered your videos last night and have been enthralled watching them. Thanks and keep up the great work.

[@doncoffey5820]

Glad you’ve found us!

[@martinmarsola6477]

A nice comfortable and relaxing ride. Thank you Don. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🙂👍🇺🇸

[@doncoffey5820]

Good to hear from you Martin.

[@curlewatblacktoft]

Thank you Don. I so much like your informative video's. Superb!

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks for the positive feedback.

[@georgeewart52]

Great video, I like the snippets of history and info as we travel along the route. Great quality video.

[@doncoffey5820]

Glad you enjoyed it George.

[@MrRedneckuk]

Another informative vid Don. Thanks for the troublr you take.

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks for the positive feedback.

[@georgeburns7344]

Another great cab ride. Enjoyed the historical snippets and reading the operating rules as you traveled along.

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks George.

[@ianr]

Excellent video. Your efforts are appreciated. 👍🙂

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks Ian.

[@buzzukfiftythree]

Very enjoyable Don, thanks. Back in the 1990s I was a regular Euston to Piccadilly traveller, usually via Stoke on Trent, so it was great to see this route from the driver's perspective

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks for the positive feedback.

[@kevinhowell8758]

Brilliant video as usual Don it brings back memories of when I had the TRT renewal train in 2003 we were there for a month renewing miles between Wedgewood crossing and Macclesfield one of the best times of my railway career.thanks

[@doncoffey5820]

You might know my mate Graham Head who was also on that project. He drives for Direct Rail Services now 👍

[@rydermike33]

Fantastic Don. Thanks very much for a great video. Passing through many of the areas where I grew up, and worked, many years ago. Your films just get better and better. All the best.

[@doncoffey5820]

Much appreciated Mike.

[@bazza945]

Wonderful repeat journey. Thanks for the informative commentary.

[@doncoffey5820]

Glad you enjoyed it Barry.

[@phwbooth]

Thanks once again, Don.

[@norburycrossing3426]

Another great video Don,thanks for producing and uploading,very interesting.

[@doncoffey5820]

Welcome matey. Speak soon.

[@thetallyeti8398]

Another cracking video, enjoyed every minute. Keep up the great work.

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks. More soon.

[@IanBlack66]

Fantastic as usual. Keep up the great work.

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks Ian

[@nickwillers1212]

Another fascinating film. I can’t tell you how much they have helped whilst recovering from pneumonia. Keep up the great work. The ‘commentary’ is really interesting too.

[@doncoffey5820]

I hope you make a quick and full recovery Nick. Glad they help.

[@RichardFelstead1949]

As usual another great video. I also like the comments/captions as well.

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks Richard. Always appreciate your feedback.

[@558vulcanxh]

Brilliant Don, , this is the first time I've seen this video, and excellent is is too,and as a bonus also my garden in Poynton from the Drivers cab .😀👍👍. Thank You very much indeed.

[@doncoffey5820]

Glad you enjoyed it. There is a whole series (but none that have your garden in!).

[@richard.featherstone]

This is the one I've been waiting for, into and out of Macclesfield and on to Manchester. Thank you.

[@doncoffey5820]

You work for Network rail Richard?

[@chocoarmour5562]

Nice bit of history as well

[@Annur375]

Watching this video was a great joy; most especially the fact that you explained with notes along the way what the guest could view! Your notes, whether technical, historical, etc., were really appreciated, for example, the fact about the town with pottery factories that had their pots and pans damaged on account of the horse-drawn carriages and therefore were please about the new (railway) transportation is precious. Interesting too was the explanation of the Tudor mansion along the way. It all amounts to great value. I sincerely thank you and wish you the best of lucks!

[@doncoffey5820]

Thank you Jacob, much appreciated. The information are just snippets that you pick up when travelling over the route or things that interest me (and I hope everyone else) about historical things. I love the architecture and trying to work out what a task it must have been without automation computers to construct it. I have to spend a lot of time on each one trying to verify any comments I make! It doesn’t always work but I try and keep errors to a minimum.

[@5mnz7fg]

Again very interesting and educating.

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks for the positive feedback.

[@nickymcallister682]

Aboultely love this video you bring Drivers eye view to life you don't just make them interesting also very educational fabulous upload a massive thumbs up

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it Nicky.

[@iantaf5559]

Another top notch video, thanks Don. The line from Colwich to Cheadle via Stoke is a very important main line that does not get much mention, so this run redresses the balance. Many thanks

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks as always Ian.

[@hamshackleton]

Thank you for another interesting and informative ride.

[@doncoffey5820]

Thank you too.

[@steves5172]

Hello Don and many thanks for an extremely watchable video complete with captions I have time to read!

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks Steve.

[@richardhancock2297]

Very good video in joyed it all the way thank you

[@DavidPeacock1972]

Oh yes. Day off tomorrow, so I can stay up and watch this as it premiers. For some reason I'm looking forward to this one. Although I only traveled as far as Macclesfield in those heady days of using a £20 North West day Rover.

[@doncoffey5820]

It’ll be over by 9ish anyway David! I’ll be around to watch it and answer any questions.

[@carlodalmas732]

another great and informative video thank

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks Carlo.

[@class444swr3]

Just popped on this video because it had been showing up regularly in my feed for a while, and I had a bit of time to spare this morning, and I’m glad I did, very informative commentary and a great experience, keep up the good work and I look forward to seeing more like this! I’m not even from the region where this video was made and I wasn’t able to take my eyes off for a second

[@doncoffey5820]

I wouldn’t normally be pleased at somebody’s addiction but in this case I’ll make an exception! More new footage to come.

[@David330ify]

Another great video Don. Quality and information excellent.

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks david.

[@SD1922]

We are regular visitors to Stoke, Kidsgrove & Congleton on the T&M and Macclesfield Canals on our narrow boat. It's really interesting to see familiar landmarks from the train driver's point of view. Thank you very much indeed for your efforts, much appreciated.

[@doncoffey5820]

Thank you Peter. I find the canals as interesting as the railways as far as the construction goes. I also once brought a narrow boat from Kidsgrove to Furness Vale for a friend.

[@amtrakharry]

Another excellent video Don !!! I love all of those little "tidbits "of info you jam into the video ! Well done ! Thank you for sharing !!! :):):)

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks to you too Harry, another “regular” on this channel.

[@extrude22]

Another great video. Interesting what you said about the embankment. It even more amazing when you consider they were being built to precise gradient specified by a designer and the engineers on site only had the most rudimentary measuring equipment to work with.

[@doncoffey5820]

Absolutely, we take it for granted but most journeys take us through shallow cuttings and modest embankments. I once dug a little pond out in my back garden and I’ve dug for footings and a driveway. It’s a mauling task that seems endless for little result. But these guys dug in the rain when you can’t walk with mud on your feet and through the winter when the ground was rock hard or baking hot days in summer. They had little safety gear and if one got injured they were out in the middle of nowhere with a hospital a cart ride away. A septic finger might starve a family - if you didn’t work you didn’t get paid and there were no holidays in Spain. You worked when it was available.

[@TheBarnem13]

Wow Good story about the Accident Bloody lucky no one was killed Great video too they are so interesting especially for me and I'm sure for others who know some of the area very well a new perspective we rarely see thanks again and keep them coming

[@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329]

excellent cab ride footage from the 323 from stoke to manchester

[@soundseeker63]

Excellent footage, enjoyable to watch, and also educational. I wasn't aware of the "wheelchex" and "panchex" systems, a smart idea and I will be looking out for them now!

[@doncoffey5820]

They’re hard to spot but you can find them in a “Sectional Appendix” if you search the internet.

[@webbac8491]

Many thanks Don!

[@derrickjones8149]

Another cracking video, Don. Many thanks for your efforts! Get yourself a pint!

[@doncoffey5820]

I’ll do that tonight Derrick, thanks!

[@1951GL]

Another excellent video - my family left the Wigan area in 1955 (returning in 1958) and lived near Stoke. The Crewe -Kidsgrove-Stoke line was one of the first (with Cumbria coastal) to use DMUs and as a four year old remember being fascinated by them. As mentioned below, the Nissan incident was similar to the Great Heck crash on the ECML(28/2/2001) and I actually knew one of the passengers on the southbound train. From 1979 to 1982 I lived in Cheadle Hulme - there was vacant land to the right near the junction - I walked my young son there. All built on now! I keep saying this - but must add, the Manchester network really is a fine service and this video demonstrates that clearly. And people wonder why Cheshire is such a popular place to live!

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks GL. Blimey, I was born in 1958! It would be something to go back and take a look around. Hopefully, people are saving these videos for future reference and they will be my little contribution to history! I remember the day that Great Heck crash happened and where I was - driving to the Optare Bus Company in Leeds which was one of my customers in my motor industry days. These videos are steadily filling all the gaps in and the whole network around Manchester will be recorded.

[@arnoldspottingvideos5269]

Great video on the driver eye view. I love the Northern Railway class 323 unit especially the brand new livery for Arriva.

[@doncoffey5820]

Yes they look good and of course they now have DDA compliant toilets and new interiors.

[@etrax7132]

Absolutely brilliant ☆☆☆☆☆

[@StaffsTransport]

Excellent, really enjoyed it.

[@doncoffey5820]

Glad you liked it.

[@guymorris8617]

Great to watch, I traveled this line as a kid and in my teens from Prestbury to Macclesfield for school and sometimes into Manchester for shopping. I remember seeing them erecting the overhead catenary in the 60s with DMUs and class 37s running the line then later Class 86s hauling the London trains. Points of interest, the south approach to Macclesfield had a retaining wall landslip block the line and pull the catenary down in the late 60s, the track layout has remained the same for 50 years including that little siding as you come in and the signal gantry is the same one I used to love looking at waiting for my train (signals now mono LED fixtures). Local trains used to terminate at Macc then leave southbound crossover the points then come back in on the northbound. As you leave Macclesfield just past the signal box you can still see the Marple line branch bed which used to go along arches past the gas works (all closed 1970) and just before the tunnel on the right were carriage sidings (now Tesco). BTW Cheadle Hulme station did have a bad train accident in the 60s at that junction. Prestbury used to have its own signal box and crossover points, that signal again has been in situ for 50+ years I remember when it was a semaphore and a Classs 37 or an 86 hurtling out of that tunnel through the station was pretty exciting! Thanks for the memories.

[@doncoffey5820]

Thank you Guy, I’ve learned a lot from your comments.

[@sfb1964]

Another excellent one Don. Particularly interesting for me as I usually travel from Stoke to Euston on a Pendolino out of Piccadilly, so it's nice to see the rest of the line that I always miss out on!!

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks Steve. Yes, I mentioned in another reply that anyone with the remotest interest in railways is always appreciative of a look out of the front.

[@Tiffy552]

Another top video Don, can't believe I used to walk from London Road to Longsight in steam days.

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks Tony, a few changes eh? ;-)

[@MartinMiller1]

Excellent, as ever!

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks Martin.

[@rubyait]

Don, when I first discovered UK videos, I watched them on my smart tv which had full screen only and no keyboard for comments. The keyboard was extremely awkward. Now I have rediscovered them and I am going back through them. I think this was my third time with this one. Thanks so much. A fan in Maine!

[@doncoffey5820]

Hi Thomas. Thanks for following and you’ll find that the later ones have evolved and are higher resolution and hi def sound too so probably rather better quality. Glad you are enjoying them and hopefully one day I will visit Maine. I’ve flown over it many times!

[@rubyait]

Don Coffey You went right over my house. My son would fly over my house coming from Germany or Oslo and then drive up from Boston!

[@biembuijs7174]

I really like this Don. So far I have watched all your videos. It's probably the only thing I watch on KZbin and it looks very good on the tv in the living room. I find it very relaxing, and I really appreciate the extra info and effort you put in it. I'm not from the Manchester area. In fact, I live in The Netherlands. But I like to visit this part of the UK. So for me this is a really good combination of a bit of education about the railways and sightseeing :-) Love to see more video's in spring and summertime!

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks Biem. There are a growing number of viewers from the NL. I used to work in the Benelux countries a lot in my motor industry days. Glad you like the videos and yes, seeing the changing seasons is one of my favourite aspects of driving trains.

[@flyingporker100]

Thank you for sharing this. The facts you included were really interesting, much of which I didn't know, even though I was brought up in Cheshire. :)

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks James. You’ll find several videos through Cheshire in the series, Have a look at the Crewe and Chester videos.

[@colmone5592]

Good info. Very interesting.

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks.

[@Simgamer122]

Love your videos don keep them coming :-)

[@doncoffey5820]

Will do. Working on the next one!

[@ChrisGJ700]

I do so enjoy these cab-view videos and I do thank you for uploading them. I was rather pleasantly surprised to learn (from reading the chat replay) that there is video for a service that goes by my neck of the woods planned; Man' Piccadilly to Holyhead, I live and work in the North Wales area, and not only that but the railway line goes by and is visible from my work place. I will also admit that I didn't initially realise that there even is a Holyhead-Manchester service, I just thought that all services to Manchester went from Llandudno, you learn something new every day. Looking forward to what's planned and once again, thanks for the videos (and the little history lessons too).

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks Chris. Yes, we’ve been waiting for lighter days so maybe we can get that organised now. Sit tight.

[@Fenestra_M]

Enjoyed this one; a good ride through the Cheshire Countryside

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks Michael.

[@seanfagan6022]

This was a very educational trip wit a Massive amount of modern engineering advancements and it is reassuring to know that so much effort and finance is being invested in Rail travel. It must be getting very close to Driverless Trains. So the magic of Trains to us growing upo will have shifted a long way from the Old Polluting Steam Engine with its own sound imitation (Puff Puff) . I have been wathing train journeys almost world wide and been dumfounded at the magnifiant workmanship of well over 120 years with little or no machienary to do the heavy work..Thank you for the massive amount of information and I felt I could actually hear you speak Don it was so personalized. Keep safe, John from Ireland.

[@doncoffey5820]

That’s the kind of relationship I like to think I get from the viewers Sean, it’s a kind of personal narrative where I invite you into the cab. I’m glad you enjoy them.

[@29brendus]

Good Video, very informative, nicely edited.

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks.

[@limeyfox]

Interesting fact: the stretch of line commencing from the sweeping left hand curve at 04:45 is a deviation route constructed in the early 1960s. The original route was straight and rejoins at 06:31. The line was rerouted to avoid the original (and much longer) Harecastle Tunnel which was not of sufficient dimension to permit electrification. It’s still extant and has been explored and documented, somewhat illegally, in other YT videos.

[@doncoffey5820]

It happens frequently in Standedge Tunnel. I think I read about the diversion when I was researching the video but thanks for the reminder.

[@Grid56]

Brings back memories of fighting to get the front seat in a first gen DMU !

[@doncoffey5820]

Was it you trying to nick my seat 😉👍

[@theovanstaden5766]

very good video Don, lots of information about this route, while in the cab with You!

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks as always Theo.

[@dhaynes4515]

excellent video. wish I could give you more than just a thumbs up. Also enjoy the additional printed info. Thanks again.

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks. Much appreciated.

[@atgordon1948]

Really enjoying the videos and the commentary. When I lived in Stafford in the 1980's, we would often take the train from Stafford to the north Wales coast resorts, and on the odd occasion, it would be a DMU, with a glass cab so you could get a glimpse of a driver's view of the journey ... long before GoPros unfortunately but thanks to your work Don, I have the opportunity to see the "driver's eye" view once more!

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks Anthony. I remember the disappointment when that front seat was taken!

[@bazza945]

Thank you also for the technical explanations, they are very welcome.

[@doncoffey5820]

Glad you enjoyed it Barry.

[@470danadidas]

Must have been quite a bang as the car was a mangled heap. Glad there were no fatalities. Great video. For someone like myself who doesn't travel by rail very often its great to see different parts of the country.

[@doncoffey5820]

Glad you enjoyed it.

[@tictac1959]

Your series of 'Driver's Eye View' videos are possibly the most interesting youtubes (of any genre) that I've seen.

[@doncoffey5820]

I’m flattered - thank you.

[@joshuahalla.k.a.controlla6333]

Great video. ☺️

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks Josh.

[@joshuahalla.k.a.controlla6333]

@@doncoffey5820 ur welcome. ☺️

[@peckelhaze6934]

Really enjoy your videos with all the extra information. Not noticed the tilt of the OHLE before, interesting. I remember reading about the car on the track. A combination of good luck and design saved many lives. I would say the car was a right off. I didn't know about the ballastless track in tunnels. I learn so much from your videos. That was a fine mess regarding the signalling. Those flat spots act like a hammer blow to the track, depending on severity.

[@doncoffey5820]

Thanks “Walt”. You always say nice things! There’s lots of interesting “stuff” on the railway. I’m sure we’ve only scratched the surface. I’ll try to keep bringing these factoids as we go along.

[@smac4749]

Educational and entertaining - love it!

[@drdoolittle5724]

As usual, absolutely stunning and a superb credit to your profession, thank you. The notes on bits and pieces really make it a 'trip', not the usual comment to make for a Stoke to Manchester run. Just having been on bang-up-to-the-minute double-decker trains in the S of France, your on coming stock really make me nostalgic what with Leyland buses dating from Harold Wilson days! Also went on a new Hitachi of GWR straight after an HST, the new kid on the block without being biased is a pale comparison, hard ride and gutless acceleration but you could say I'm subjective? Thanks again.

[@doncoffey5820]

Thank you. The 142s are not popular but they have done a vast amount of work in the North and it would have been a nightmare without them. The new Hitachi units are different from company to company. Ours (TransPennine Express) get 3 of the Mercedes V12 low emission engines (badged Rolls Royce) per set and are said to be quite capable of keeping time over the Pennines. We get them next year so we’ll see.

[@peterheppenstall654]

One of the best trains I used to drive

[@doncoffey5820]

Me too Peter. Good aren’t they.

[@Synthematix]

And people say the class70 is ugly, these class 323's are as aerodynamic as a house brick.

[@doncoffey5820]

They are but when you consider that they were only ever but for 90 mph and their age they were no bad looking. They are excellent to drive.