UJK Parf Guide System Mark 2 - Offset Holes

[@PaulMarlmountWoodcrafts]

Hi Peter, Brilliant presentation. I am now nearing finish to MFT and now embarking on the offset holes. Your video answered all my previous queries in relation to offset holes. Very enlightening and easily understood due entirely to your excellent tutoring style. Regards, Paul

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Paul, Many thanks for this - good luck with the rest of the work. Cheers. Peter

[@matshallsten19]

Just bought a set of these. I’m super happy. And watching and following your instructions is a joy. Grateful beginner. Grettings from Sweden.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Mats, Many thanks. Peter

[@karlsavage4278]

Another outstanding video peter thankyou . I used this system to make a 600mm step square for my Radial arm saw and its the first time i made one with such certainty that its square . I am in the throw of putting my MFT together and playing around with clamps and seeing what clamps will go through thicker material than 18mm .. interesting the microjig clamps will go through a 30mm top and breeze through a 25mm ,, of course the festool one will only just do 20mm . maybe interesting exercise to pop up a matrix people can contribute too as to what claps will fit through the holes V various thicknesses of top ... all the best from NZ and thanks for a fantastic product idea ..

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Karl, Many thanks for this - good luck. Cheers. Peter

[@wolf-bv6lg]

Hi Peter, yesterday I made 2 tops. Let me tell you, this set up worked flawlessly! Such a joy to work with quality tools! Thank you, Sir!

[@carlbrothers]

Thank you for this AMAZING product with it's incredible accuracy! I really should have watched all these videos before firing up the drill for my table. I have another set of holes I will be using for my cutting station/table so I can cut 48" wide panels and this will help me with better spacing and use of my space.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Brilliant. Many thanks. Peter

[@Scarface21091978]

Fantastic video, with excellent clear explanation… thank you, I’ll be purchasing one shortly 👍🏻

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Dale, Many thanks for the super feedback. Peter

[@thewoodworker106]

Hi Peter. I’m drilling the holes in my new bench today. What a great product. Works flawless. Thanks for making it easy.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Thomas, Excellent, good luck with the work. Cheers. Peter

[@kiwdwks]

Awesome video series explaining the system. I just purchased it and look forward to upgrading my main work bench top! I'm sure it's going to make me so much more efficient. Thanks Peter...well thought out and ingenious.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Mark, Thank you for your kind words. Peter

[@Ginder0815]

At the moment I am building my Table with 4 by 1.1 meters. The System is realy great fun to use. Thanks a lot for creating this amazing tool. Regards from Germamy

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Excellent - good luck. Cheers. Peter

[@simonfreeman7277]

Thanks for creating this system Peter i ordered the Mk 2 yesterday from Axminster. My small workshops getting quite busy with wardrobes and various cabinets for customers and this will speed things up and increase accuracy. Great videos very informative.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Simon, Many thanks. Peter

[@narco73]

I love nerds and I love woodworking. Subscribed!

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Welcome aboard!

[@stretchysquariums4212]

Perfectly explained, thank you.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@jeffmarks3218]

Peter, Is there a way to add offset holes using the Mark II system to an existing MFT3 table that already has the 20mm holes cut?

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Jeff, I have had a tip from someone saying that the 20 mm drill guide can be used with a 3 mm drill, in its guide holder, through the appropriate hole in the 20 mm guide. Peter

[@rogerbarr2365]

I have a Festool OF1400 router and a set of the UJK router bushings. In one of your utube videos you suggested the Leigh 704R adapter for your bushings. I bought my router here in the USA and do not see a way to mount the Axminster bushings on the 1400 or the 704R adapter. Can you steer me in the right direction? Thanks, Roger

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Roger, They should fit as I used to use that setup. The Leigh adapter for the OF1400 is Festool product code 493566. Here is a link: www.axminstertools.com/leigh-guide-bush-adaptor-for-festool-of1400-493566 Does yours look like this? Peter

[@andreassjobom3266]

Hi Peter, I just want to thank you for this magnificent product! cheers! /Andreas, Sweden

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Andreas, Thank you so much for your kind words. Cheers. Peter

[@dusttilldawn123]

Thanks Peter thats a great information video for any one to use the PGS mark 2 just just for info there is a two week backorder at Axminster well worth the wait thanks again

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Harry, Many thanks. Peter

[@andrewmillwardwatford9410]

See the comment below

[@henrikbacke-hansen7365]

Hello Peter. I have seen a video where you had a wood tool to remove the dogs from the parf guide top. I cannot seem to find that video again. Do you have a video of making that tool?

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Henrik, It took a while to find it but here it is: kzbin.info/www/bejne/amWYiKudZsppnLM Peter

[@henrikbacke-hansen7365]

@@NewBritWorkshop thank you

[@Bulawayo2000]

Hi Peter, The drill guide system has two holes for re drilling the 20mm holes what is the second one for and do you need to put any lube onto the bushing when drilling.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Initially you would use the 3 mm pins to locate the 20 mm drill guide but when you progress to a certain stage you will need to use the 25 mm locator dogs to secure the 20 mm drill guide. They fit into 20 mm holes that you have already drilled. For this stage the 20 mm drill is moved to the other part of the guide. Oil is only needed about once in every 100 holes and then only a dash. Peter

[@Alexauscelle]

Is there a way to make other degrees then 90, 45 and 22,5°? Maybe with the offset holes? I own the Mark 2, but have no idea how. Thanks

[@NewBritWorkshop]

New video on the way for 30 - 60 and 90 degrees. Peter

[@gregladd9790]

Just received my PGS Mark 1 from TSO Products here in the US but haven’t opened it yet. I would much rather have the newer version. Any idea when the Mark 2 system will be available over here?-Greg

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Greg, No idea but the original is less expensive and equally as accurate. Peter

[@mattprzybylski19]

TSO Products has it in the US, I just got mine yesterday.

[@henrikbacke-hansen7365]

Hello Peter. What is the minimum distanse you would recommend from the Edge of an mdf sheet to the first Hole? Also how would you deterine the distanse from the Edge to the first Hole?

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Henrik, I would not have the centre of a 20 mm hole any closer than 25 mm from an edge. When you do your planning look at the width and length of your piece of MDF. See how many times 96 mm will fit in. For example if it is 12 times the the distance from the centres of the extreme holes is 1152 mm. If your sheet is 1220 mm wide the that leave 68 mm. For symetry, divide this by 2 and so the distance from the edge to the centre of the hole nearest the edge is 34 mm. Peter

[@stakwalderbak5331]

Hi Peter. I hope the move is going well. I have the Mark 1 version which I am ashamed to say is still in its box and has been staring at me accusingly for some time. Do you know if Axminster will sell the vacuum attachment as a separate item for Mark 1 owners?

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Stephen, They do sell it separately - the Axminster product code is 105100. I think that is about £24. Peter

[@shanehertzog5812]

Hi peter just asking you ,what is the difference between the old parf guide system and the new mark 2 parf guide system. Peter you are excellent at useing and seting it up.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Shane, The Mk2 is easier to use and more accurate because both 3 mm and 20 mm drilling is done with bearing (oiled bush) guides. Peter

[@bjm112148]

Peter, how do I locate the place to drill an offset 20mm hole in my new Festool table top with all the 20mm holes already drilled. I don’t understand how to locate the offset holes because the new parf stick needs 3mm holes. Please help me understand what I am missing. I just bought a new Festool table and want to install the offset holes for my guide rail. Thank for your time and concern in this matter.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

I will do something in my next Workshop Notes video. Peter

[@rickherrick1732]

@@NewBritWorkshop Hello. Were you able to create this video with regards to making offsets when all the current holes have been drilled for 20mm? Thank you.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Rick, I am sure that I have done something on this - probably in a Workshop Notes video. Try: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKSleoqCaJWFhpI or just put dogs in a pair of holes, push a Parf Stick against them and drill the 3 mm holes and then enlarge them. Ptere

[@rickherrick1732]

@@NewBritWorkshop Thanks Peter. I had already found the referenced video. It makes the offsets before any of the 20mm have been done. I have been playing with this all day and I made good initial progress. It looks like there is not a set way to do things, you have to just stare at it a while and try different things. I will try your work around though, thanks for that. Rick

[@intrepidus3378]

Hi Peter. You briefly mentioned that you can use the Parf sticks to create a 48mm spacing. It seems like you should also be able to do 16mm spacing. Is that right?

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Technically yes as there are offset holes for 48 mm and 32 mm and the difference is 16 mm. However, having 20 mm holes at 16 mm centres would not work at all as the holes would overlap. If the 16 mm offset holes are in unique rows (or columns) then it can be made to work. Good luck. Peter

[@intrepidus3378]

@@NewBritWorkshop Thanks. That's what I needed to know. I need 16mm spacing for offsets to hold the dogs for my guide rail. They will be all on their own far away from any other dog holes.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Excellent. Peter

[@TheAussiePirate]

That system would be brilliant for making a downdraft table for a plastic former.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Carl, Brilliant idea - many thanks. Peter

[@jtlong8383]

Peter, do you ever drill Super Dog offset holes on the long side of a table ? I can see that being a way to do rip cuts along the long axis of a rectangular table.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

I Have done them once but I found that I did not use them. If, say, I have to do a cut down the length of a board, perhaps dividing an 8x4 into two 2x8s, I first create a good sawn edge taking just a couple of mm off. Then I carefully measure from that edge in two places, each near each an end, and use that to set the guide rail. Subsequent cuts would be done with the dogs to break the pieces down further. Peter

[@brendaspencer3774]

Peter, When using MDF, does the underside of the holes come out clean,

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Brenda, Yes, almost every time as the cutter has a special lip cutting action. Peter

[@jimtyzack1653]

Hi Peter, I’m late to this party I know. If I buy a pre-made UJK worktop, ie with the array of 20mm holes already in situ, can I retrospectively add additionsl offset holes using the Parf guide system2? I need to accommodate 600mm wide stock on my workbench. Thanks.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Jim, Yes you can do retrospective hole creation. You need to buy a set of Parf Revision Dogs. They fit into existing 20 mm holes and have a 3 mm hole in the middle. Here is a link to the video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5rJnamur7p8m5I Good luck. Peter

[@jimtyzack1653]

@@NewBritWorkshop Hi Peter, Many thanks for the helpful and speedy reply. Originally I tried making a worktop with my CNc machine, but it’s not big enough to handle the UJK worktop (my max dimensions are 1000mm by 600mm). So I tried making the worktop in two halves - but I’m having the most almighty difficulty in lining up the two halves precisely. I have therefore decided to buy the pre-made worktop from Axminster and then customise it - which thanks to your help seems to be possible with the Parf guide and the revision dogs. Thanks again and best wishes. Keep the videos coming please!!

[@markhollingsworth3097]

Great system and seriously accurate, but had to return after 1 day as both Parf sticks ended up with the 3mm pins jammed in them and was unable to pull out....... 1 snapped and I left the other in as evidence. shame though, great product and couldn't fault (other than the pin issue)

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Mark, I expect that Axminster will replace or refund without any problem. I have not heard of this before - I hope that they check the kit to find out what went wrong. Peter

[@sandervandijk2373]

Great! Hope to see it soon at the Gereedschappro.nl store. Thanks for the informative video.

[@stoatsngroatsuk5012]

It’s an interesting kit for setting out a table/ bench. I have only the leftover kitchen worktop to use, so I ask will the cutter easily cope with multiple cuts into this? Thanks, Shaun

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Shaun, I have used the cutter to make a couple of holes through a formica top and it did cut well but I have not tested it for durability. Peter

[@bugsysiegals]

You didn't mention it but if the base of the guide rail dog is larger in diameter than the dogs used to square the panel it will prevent you from squaring the panel ... another good reason to offset the guide rail dogs.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

I use Parf Super Dogs so no problems at all. Peter

[@gregstephens2339]

How many of these would you add to a 4' X 8' top.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Greg, Not sure what you mean - just place offset holes where you think that you will need them. Have a look at my video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqHLfWCCgLJlosk Peter

[@georgebrill3072]

Very interesting. Is your Part guide sold in the U.S. ? Thanks.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi George, Yes it is - TSO are the stockists and if they have sold out then order direct from Axminster - you can pay in dollars and will not have to pay the 20% European sales tax which will be taken off the price. Peter

[@georgebrill3072]

@@NewBritWorkshop Thank You.

[@Tiz169]

Peter, I really like your system and in fact I have purchased the Mark 1 parf guide system some time ago. Allthough the Mark 2 definitely has added value, I am hesitant to upgrade :-). However, creating offset holes that prevent sawing marks from being on the holes and colliding with larger parf dogs does sound attractive. I have found a way to do this using the mark 1 set, with the remark that the holes will be perfectly perpendicular, but not at 32mm and 48 mm offsets. I hope this can also help other people. However, I do not see a way to post pictures. Do you have an idea how I can share with the community?

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Mathijs, I have also been doing offset holes on the original which I recently demonstrated at the Harrogate Show. Perhaps I will include it in my next Workshop Notes video. Cheers. Peter

[@Tiz169]

Peter, thnx for your reply. And thumbs up for this system!

[@bjm112148]

Peter, how can I locate the offset holes in an already existing Festool table top. All the holes are already drilled at 20 mm so I cannot locate the new parf stick because it needs 3mm holes. Can you buy a 20mm dog with a 3mm hole located through it? Thanks for any help you can provide. Am I missing something in my thinking?

[@Knightmare691]

@@bjm112148they are called parf revision dogs

[@amarilloshim]

Honestly I am glad this popped up in my feed, I have the original system in my cart at LeeValley. Would you happen to know when this will be available? Axminster does not currently have it listed on their website. The offset option seems like it would be worth waiting for

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Not sure - see other replies below. Peter

[@smnhpkns]

its on now

[@jamesbailand4311]

UJK should also make a new set of dogs - 18mm + 5mm for the track...

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi James, They are always listening to their customers and will take this on board. Cheers. Peter

[@jamesbailand4311]

@@NewBritWorkshop if another 5mm was added it would also catch 22mm shears whilst still being low enough to not catch the saw.

[@thomashorner7474]

great system ...but how about a 3/4" system compatible with the kreg table.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Thomas, We have checked this out and the boffins say that there is not enough market demand. Sorry. Peter

[@hans1163]

👍

[@markkoons7488]

This gives astonishing accuracy, right? As a new guy sniffing out the system, I need to learn what freedom a holey bench can give. Within narrow confines, they seem to fill the need for a table saw, drill press and router table but there must be more. Is it a fair assessment to say the system allows fast production of geometrically perfect pieces? Seems at first glance like a factory in a broom closet.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Mark, Certainly when I was moving the workshop I had no mitre saw and no saw table. I managed remarkably well with my tracksaw cutting station and did several perfect butt joints with some 40 mm x 50 mm stock. The system is really good. Cheers. Peter

[@borstroem]

Hi Peter, brilliant as always - I think a "Parf Super Short Dog" with a 3 mm hole in the middle where the top is flush with the table would be a good idea in order to make the offset holes in an existing MFT3 table......or is there another way? (happy owner of PGS Mark 1 btw)

[@NewBritWorkshop]

I have said in many of my PGS videos that it is a good idea to leave a few 3 mm holes in the bench top in order to allow further work if required. Peter

[@joebloggs7231]

Yes, but not an option I suppose if you want to add extra holes (as he says) to an existing MFT top - eg to add offset holes for the guide rail. Presumably in that case you can use the 20mm guide block to position a couple of holes halfway between existing ones? Nice update by the way - time to jump on the bandwagon I feel. Mmm - Christmas ideas!! Geoff.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Joe, You can try to use the 20 mm guide block to make offset holes of a sort but the problem is that a 3 mm hole is required in order for the 20 mm cutter to work. Peter

[@borstroem]

Ouh yes, you can make offset holes in an existing MFT top. I just found the answer in one of your videos, Peter. At 11:07 in video "How to make an Isometric MFT Top" from 30. maj 2018 you show how to make offset holes by using the Parf stick as "spacer" 👍

[@philippeterson9512]

It would be nice if you had a pin that fit in a 20mm hole with a 3mm pin protruding so you can modify a table that has already been finished with 20mm holes.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Philip, Yes, we do have this it is the Parf Revision Dog - Axminster product number 107359 www.axminstertools.com/accessories/bench-vice-storage-accessories/bench-fittings/ujk-parf-3mm-aluminium-revision-dogs-3-107359 Peter

[@VolkerKoch1977]

I can't wait to order my set. Unfortunately it is not possible yet.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Volker, You can pre-order direct from Axminster and they will ship to you as soon as it is ready. Peter

[@stevesalt3178]

If you keep drilling holes there will be no mft left and you can get a proper bench

[@keanMechanic]

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