Sad thing is people are still arguing whether Momoshiki or Isshiki could beat madara
@2_loko Жыл бұрын
@hoodie_ronald3930 Here’s my scaling for Kashin Koji. Everything is lowballed btw Base Koji >= 10% Jigen, as shown when he beat him and forced him to transform into Isshiki FP Naruto = FP Sasuke, this is stated and shown throughout the entire series and in Boruto as well Jigen >>> FP Naruto + FP Sasuke Koji is at least as strong as 10% Jigen. Jigen at FP beat Naruto and Sasuke combined. Base Koji >= 20% Naruto OR Sasuke (excluding teamwork amps in order to lowball) Naruto = Sasuke = Fused Momoshiki, this is confirmed by scaling and by Momoshiki himself in the novels Base Koji = 20% Fused Momo Assuming Fusion is addition of Kin and Momo (not multiplication of their power) and assuming Kinshiki = Base Momoshiki (this is a massive lowball), then Base Koji = 40% Base Momo Base Momo = Kaguya (another massive lowball) Base Koji = 40% Kaguya Assuming Kaguya is only TWICE as strong as Juubidara (yet another massive lowball, she should be exponentially stronger than him as stated by Zetsu and Sasuke), Kaguya = 2x Juubidara, Base Koji = 80% Juubidara If Teen Naruto and Sasuke are relative to each other and their COMBINED efforts can match Juubidara in a 2v1, then either Teen Naruto or Sasuke AT FULL POWER have to be around 50% Juubidara, which means they are weaker than BASE KASHIN KOJI. With a 10x amp from Sage Mode, Kashin Koji is 8 TIMES STRONGER than Juubidara (80% times 10x amp from SM = 800% Juubidara) This is been incredibly lowballed at least four times (Fusion, equalizing Momo to Kin, equalizing Momo to Kaguya, and assuming Kaguya is only twice as strong as Madara) Sage Kashin Koji wins with absolutely no difficulty
@rjsblanket3024 Жыл бұрын
@@2_lokok, Madara isn't beating top tiers like Momo or Isshiki but Kashin doesn't have the feats to kill Madara, he just fought a dying 10% Jigen
@2_loko Жыл бұрын
@@rjsblanket3024 just dropped my line of scaling up above. Sage Koji wins no diff
@zecikk_5651 Жыл бұрын
@@2_loko lmao the idea of someone, who is Jiraiya's (who lost to pain) clone, absolutely beating Juubidaras ass is so hilarious.
@buddylee5712 Жыл бұрын
Kakuzu still wins because raw durability
@isaiahbennette6140 Жыл бұрын
Obviously
@ForsakenDreamer7 Жыл бұрын
"Not necessarily."
@aym2536 Жыл бұрын
Dannnnnnng 😂😂😂
@Indo_Tenzo Жыл бұрын
Bro threw a Kunai at a wood clone told everybody he fought the first
@aym2536 Жыл бұрын
@@Indo_Tenzo it's the only logical conclusion 😂😂, cuz ain't no way that *boi* could've thrown hands with the goat 🐐and survived long enough to build a reputation for himself outta that encounter
@Lazy_Desu Жыл бұрын
People seem to forget that only a select few from each village become stronger than previous generations. That was the entire issue with Naruto during the 4th great ninja war. When the Kage were revived, shit hit the fan. Then Madara showed that even the then-current Kage weren’t anywhere near strong enough. It just blows me away how many people claim to watch/read these stories but end up saying the wildest things
@whywhy3289 Жыл бұрын
To be fair that was edo Madara who can heal infinitely and had Hashirama cells that gave him the Rinnegan and full powered Wood Style. Base Madara was insanely strong but no where near as broken.
@uchihadeity1158 Жыл бұрын
I didn't think anyone one was confused about the most foreshadowed character in Shonen and most feared man in all of Naruto as well as the God of Shinobi who was the respected by every village (both who could singlehandedly control a full Kurama) during their life times being far stronger than any of the Kage that came after them (Till the next Ashura Re-incarnation Naruto). What's shocking is the fact a lot of people didn't realize how much their reincarnations were already catching up to (and surpassing) their alive primes (Madara & Hashirama's) while they were still teenagers (Naruto & Sasuke). Teenagers who were still to reach their full potential. Especially when after receiving Hagoromo himself (as opposed to just having incarnations of his son's chakra like Hashirama & Madara did), they showed themselves to compete with a far beyond prime Juubidara (who has absorbed the freaking 10 tails as we know prior even Rinne Sasuke would be enough to take him out) and they still had little understanding of exactly how their new power worked. Of course after years and years of training and mastery over the same power (that at novice levels they were able to take on Juubidara & the much more powerful Kaguya) they would have been far surperior to any of Madara or Juubidara by the time they touched adulthood. If not, they'd have been completely screwed against the more powerful Ootsutsukis Madara & Hashirama were narratively put as measuring sticks of power for Sasuke & Naruto to overcome and surpass. So as awesome as Madara was, why do people think those 2 didn't surpass him. Pain once looked unbeatable, but just like throughout the them of the entire show, Naruto & Sasuke surpassed him in power. Exact same thing for Madara & Hashi.
@Metal12111 Жыл бұрын
Still a base toneri victim
@OfficialOddlyAppealing10 ай бұрын
@@whywhy3289base Madara still would have destroyed them he was relative to Hashirama who was literally the strongest shinobi alive ever before Naruto and Sasuke got their power ups and none of the 5 kage at that time were anywhere near hashiramas level he would have still wiped them.
@whywhy328910 ай бұрын
@@OfficialOddlyAppealing he still could have beat them, but it wouldn’t have been guaranteed. If they worked really well together and pretty much did hit and runs to drain his chakra and stay alive then finished him off at the end they could get the W. We never saw much of base Hashirama or base Madara other than some yelling and flashes of their strongest abilities. We never really saw how hard a fight would be against even one of the other Kage would be for them. Both of them definitely win against the other Kage of their time, but we don’t know how drained their chakra would be, if they would take damage etc. . I have no doubt Madara wipes the floor with any of them 1on1 or 2on1. But if it’s all five of them cooperating against base Madara with no Hashirama cells and no endless chakra, it’s going to be atleast a high difficulty W for Madara with a decent possibility of victory for the 5 Kage. Granted, I find it pretty unlikely that Madara wouldn’t try to find a way to escape and fight another day if got jumped and cornered by 5 Kage and he likely takes out a Kage or two while doing so. But I’ll stand by the fact that base Madara is going to struggle pretty bad with any full generation of Kage. If prime Madara has the Hashirama cells but no edo, it’s probably a low to no difficulty W for Madara but there is a small small small chance the Kage win if they have perfect luck, planning, and teamwork. The Hashirama chakra reserves and jutsu, plus his own abilities and the rinnegan he would get are too much for pretty much any group of 5 humans that aren’t reincarnations. I really wish we got to see more of Madara and Hashirama fighting in their prime, especially against other string characters of their time, it would give us a much better idea of how strong the ninja world was back then.
@kamui7587 Жыл бұрын
I would’ve even included the scan where sasuke blocks isshiki, as he’s talking about trying to kill sasuke. Isshiki states multiple times he wants to kill sasuke cause his rinnegan is so annoying and even with rods impaled in him sasuke was able to survive attacks from an isshiki with killer intent. He’s just him.
@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl Жыл бұрын
That fight makes no sense. Isshiki can destroy sasuke sussano in one kick. But is unable to kill sasuke in one kick or punch. Despite managing to hit him serval times The fight would have us believe that sasuke is more durable than his sussano
@deadprecidents Жыл бұрын
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hlif he condensed his chakra enough to reinforce his defenses, probably is. Susanoo is just a projection/manifestation after all.
@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl Жыл бұрын
@@deadprecidents sorry but you are grasping at straws here. We constantly hear and told and see that sussano is more durable that it's owner.
@oghaze9318 Жыл бұрын
And that was with ONE arm lol
@redbool1115 Жыл бұрын
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hlI mean he legit beat him so hard that sasuke struggled to even move
@ActuallyAlask Жыл бұрын
Happy you pointed out Sasuke's basis for Kaguya's fear of Momo & Kin being despite her power. It's a good example of sometimes focusing so hard on one phrase that we miss out on surrounding clarifications.
@raystriker3512 Жыл бұрын
Kaguya was afraid because her children were there and whilst Momo could not kill her cause of the clan's rules and only punish her, there's no clear answer to what would have happened to half breed Otsutsuki
@SuperOmegaBerserker Жыл бұрын
Base naruto beat the piss out of fused Momoshiki he is literally fodder, KCM naruto was killed by madara Next
@zero1188 Жыл бұрын
Next question ow can they beat the first hokage
@SuperOmegaBerserker Жыл бұрын
@@zero1188 Sasuke, Momo, Kinshiki, or Madara beat the first? Didnt kakuzu fucking defeat hashirama 🤣
@SuperOmegaBerserker Жыл бұрын
@@zero1188 if your questions how can juubidara beat alive prime hashirama then majestic Juubi cloaked susanoo with 4 limbo clone assasins spamming light fang is my answer, hashiramas only real Win con is a really hard dif Rashimon gate seal plus the 1000 arm bhudda holding down majestic juubi susanoo cloak and either literally reaper death seal or use his sage mode to try and stone up madara with absorption but idk i think he can process nature chakra if he had to?
@Wicks897 Жыл бұрын
The only reason why people say Madara is stronger/overrate him is because in Boruto Sasuke (and Naruto) don’t whip their dicks out and nuke everything. Fights being down to earth and mostly taijutsu based has made fans downplay adult fate bros. But if you’re scaling fairly and consistently, Sasuke dogwalks.
@exequielbreton4393 Жыл бұрын
He doesn't have a way to kill or seal Madara . Nor a way to deal with limbo clones tough
@xavmanisdabestest Жыл бұрын
The taijutsu has also gotten smaller scales, infamously boruto walls are near indestructible while in naruto walls were getting blasted through casually. Maybe they have better *chi control* now lol. Not to mention speed hard to gauge in relation to the old series since the goal posts have shifted faster but everyone still relative. Lastly we literally watch sasuke use 3-5 jutsu before complaining about chakra something madara never has done. Even though sasuke is probably in a tier above madara you have to ignore what you're directly watching in the anime or reading in the manga because the portrayal of sasuke isn't put on a pedestal like how madara was
@zecikk_5651 Жыл бұрын
@@exequielbreton4393 And how is Madara supposed to kill Sasuke?
@ZelZ-.-z Жыл бұрын
There's another reason people overrate Madara and it's related to that dick term you said.
@rjsblanket3024 Жыл бұрын
@@exequielbreton4393he can see clones with his Rinnegan and damage them because he has SP chakra, what are you on about.
@okayspectre Жыл бұрын
Facts. Sasuke destroys Madara. End of story
@bbrandumbb Жыл бұрын
🧢 Keep crying 3 Eyed Rinne-Sharingan Juubi-Jinchuriki Madara destroys Sasuke in a 1v1 and it’s not even close.
@jaxwolf438 Жыл бұрын
@@bbrandumbb Cope
@Near1015 Жыл бұрын
@@bbrandumbbcope harder
@something3251 Жыл бұрын
@@bbrandumbbtroll?
@morifutai1916 Жыл бұрын
@@bbrandumbbI give the bait a 7/10
@kingsiretheog Жыл бұрын
the crazy thing is that we have never seen Sauske at 100% full power in Boruto....in every fight they had him use his portal to hop dimensions right before a fight and that eats up a good portion of his chakra
@Fearedits-q8c Жыл бұрын
Bro did to debates in one video
@midgetydeath Жыл бұрын
It shouldn't weaken him anyway. He is genetically predisposed for his eyes and his chakra and soul are both that of Hagoromo's eldest son. It should be as easy as breathing for him and about as costly in energy.
@HC-gm4fo Жыл бұрын
Losing chakra doesn’t weaken you unless it’s not enough to do what you need.
@short_dose_of_internet Жыл бұрын
Is Sasuke in boruto dumb or smth ? Why didn't he absorb chakra off of tentais if he needed that much ? Why didn't he absorb those chakra nukes of momoisiki's?
@HC-gm4fo Жыл бұрын
@@short_dose_of_internet Too much chakra at once probably
@aran.m977 Жыл бұрын
How some people really think that Madara could take on an adult Sasuke is really hilarious
@neroisntdead3681 Жыл бұрын
Boruto fucks with the power scaling too hard so i do get it last I followed the series at least, it had kid naruto fight that one otsutsuki guy, so maybe people thought that adult sasuke was extremely nerfed, since that makes more sense than kid naruto being more powerful than kaguya
@zeyyyboggiee Жыл бұрын
@@neroisntdead3681filler. Anime is just a no
@rjsblanket3024 Жыл бұрын
@@neroisntdead3681Sasuke had his chakra drained almost completely*at the time* so he was weakened during that arc, it literally shows urashiki stealing his chakra and urashiki is never stated to be kaguya level so kid Naruto and Boruto beating him with the help of Sasuke's kirin isn't too crazy.
@HC-gm4fo Жыл бұрын
Urashiki was nerfed from giving his chakra to the turtle
@_Seru_ Жыл бұрын
@@rjsblanket3024 Sasuke has his chakra drained completely for 90% of Boruto.
@ZachsRealm Жыл бұрын
I can’t believe people legit debate this. Sasuke is superior. Had Madara fans crying on my short last week crowning Sasuke the strongest Uchiha. Six still doing his thing with the best scaling videos. Hope you’re doing well man!
@redbool1115 Жыл бұрын
At least they didn’t say itachi is the strongest because of yata mirror and totsuka blade 😂
@salam3921-v1h Жыл бұрын
@@redbool1115😂😂 itachi fans are on another level
@SuperOmegaBerserker Жыл бұрын
Sasuke isnt even top 5
@Toxicpunk01 Жыл бұрын
Could u tell me what makes sasuke stronger than madara
@Oohsy07 Жыл бұрын
@@Toxicpunk01 oh my god..
@Necromancer4267 Жыл бұрын
Kaguya's Zetsu army wouldn't be 100k strong, that's just how many Obito prepped. Kaguya's army was going to be comprised of the entire world, after the world's population was put into the God Tree.
@Michael-wj8pe Жыл бұрын
Yup and in the novel sasuke mentions that the zetsu army was mutating from absorbing the chakra from the god tree and in Boruto this was also showcased when Konohamaru found them. So the zetsu army was supposed to be amped by the juubi's chakra and perhaps even Kaguya's
@breexy7190 Жыл бұрын
Im not sure, but i think army that obito used was actually from kaguya ? that was keep stored ( dont quote me on that ) But even if thats a cased. She created 100k in +-25 years. And between Narutos era and Kaguyas its roughly 1000 years. Soo if she could produces every 25 years 100K white zetsu. it would made roughly around 40 MILION of zetsus when Momo finally arrived
@Necromancer4267 Жыл бұрын
@@breexy7190 Nah, the army Obito used was created by Madara and Obito. It's produced by a root stemming from the Gedo Mazo which is Kaguya's/The Juubi's body summoned from within the moon by Madara. It is still roughly 10k White Zetsu for every 20-30 years though.
@josebatxu32 Жыл бұрын
Still, if Madara bodied a full batallion without breaking a sweat, Momoshiki can body a 100,000+ white zetsu army comfortably imo
@Necromancer4267 Жыл бұрын
@@josebatxu32 I literally just told you that it wouldn't be 100,000 strong. It would be millions, if not BILLIONS strong. The population of the *entire world.*
@NeoDeity Жыл бұрын
They are basically just pallet swaps if you equalize their forms. If you take them at their best, Sasuke easily wins. Easy. Done. Thanks.
@jaquandrejones Жыл бұрын
Who is beating up limbo clones? 🤔
@Riley.AM. Жыл бұрын
@@jaquandrejonesliterally any high tier in boruto
@khalilwilson2586 Жыл бұрын
@@jaquandrejonescan’t sasuke see the limbo clones with his rinnesharingan?
@fatjoker2970 Жыл бұрын
@@jaquandrejones Sasuke could see the Limbo Clones.
@jaquandrejones Жыл бұрын
@@Riley.AM. boruto Sakura > boruto sasuke
@MASTEWART8 ай бұрын
Madara > Adult Sasuke. Sword of Nunoboko one shots, literally. "Divine sword" which shaped the world, it's power derived from one's will, which Madara's is unwavering. - Chakra levels and potency goes to Madara. - Destructive capability/AP goes to Madara. - Physical prowess & speed goes to Madara. - Experience goes to Madara - Intelligence is comparable. Analytically, Sasuke may have a slight edge. - Reaction speed is comparable - Nintaijustu/Kenjutsu goes to Sasuke, however it is close. - Durability goes to Madara, he has regenerative abilities, is essentially immortal post Shinju absorption. - Ninjutsu goes to Madara. He has a far wider array of Ninjutsu and mastery over basically every element/Kekkai Genkai being the Juubi Jinchuruki and a Rinnegan weilder. Now, let's look at statements in the manga, as well as other important factors. * Hagaromo claimed Madara was approaching him, or rather his level when he just possessed 1 Rinnegan, pre Shinju tree absorption, after essentially leveling up twice, where does that bring Madara's power level (I would wager equal if not stronger than Hagaromo, having all of his abilities and a wider array of Ninjutsu and hax.) * Sasuke was literally shitting bricks when it came to Limbo, we see this on multiple occasions, Sasuke can literally not deal damage to Limbo, he lacks Six Paths Senjutsu, this is why Naruto has to take lead when it comes to fighting Limbo. * People claim Naruto's clones are equal to Limbo, yet conveniently forget that all of his clones disappeared when Sasuke locked them inside the Susano'o shell to counter Infinite Tsukiyomi. This indicates that Naruto's clones were defeated. * Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura all launched an attack at Madara, and he brushed them off like toddlers, then proceeded to activate IT, and there was nothing the duo/trio could have done about it. * Madara has not showcased even a tenth of his true ability and potential. He has never used Susano'o as a Jinchuruki, which should theoretically boost the power level of the chakra avatar, as Susano'o is literally just an extension of ones own chakra. This also applies to Deva Path abilities, or any abilities for that matter. He could literally pull meteors from space in practically seconds and destroy entire battlefields. He created Chibaku Tensei effortlessly the size of multiple countries. How about Preta Path, which nullifies virtually all of Sasuke's abilities, and potentially even Susano'o? Creation of All Things, mastery of Yin-Yang release, all these factors and people really believe Madara loses? Do people have no common sense? * How does Sasuke counter multiple wood clones, who can create their own Susano'o and use the same abilities as the original? * How does Sasuke counter, Light fang, without the same danger sensing and senjutsu that Naruto has? It is literally light speed. The only reason Naruto avoided it is because he saw it before it happened. i;e.. precognition. * The author Kishimoto, through Madara hinted that he could not be defeated.. with statements like "would dying together be considered teamwork as well?" He himself claimed that Madara has no weakness. Among at least 3 other statements. ------ Theoretically, not canonically though, Madara should be able to use s/t ninjutsu, as he possesses the same eye as Kaguya, lets use our brains here people. I could go on, but I'll stop here.
@shinji1366 ай бұрын
Imagine writing such an essay just to be wrong. Teen Sasuke already blitzed Madara and sliced him in half, and you think Adult Sasuke who's even stronger loses? Actually tragic, that you have to write so much and still are proven wrong by a single drawing lmao
@andrei-cezarbleaje55193 ай бұрын
@@shinji136 madara did not care that he would have been cut in half since he knew he could regenrate , he wanted to take his rinnegan back and he did and came back full
@shinji1363 ай бұрын
@@andrei-cezarbleaje5519 If he did not care then he wouldn't have constantly tried to dodge Naruto's and Sasuke's attacks, even using a substitution at one time. You Madara fanboys are way too easy.
@neski3112 ай бұрын
THIS. I agree 100% with you on this. People say Sasuke is stronger because "he reacted to fused Momoshiki". Hell, the Tsuchikage reacted and dodged Momoshiki. What can Sasuke do against a Juubi Bomb? What can he do against a Mokuton big enough to cover the entire world? How can he deal with Madara's enormous chakra reserves and stamina? Nobody has an answer. Madara got cut in half, and then Sasuke said "Just his upper half?!" Hinting that Madara let himself get cut to get into Kamui faster. Sasuke can't do anything.
@shinji1362 ай бұрын
@@neski311 Sasuke is stronger because Madara straight up ran away from Naruto and him, and later on he can fight Kaguya who is INCOMPARABLY stronger than Madara. How is the Tsuchikage reacting to Momoshiki an anti-feat? It just places her above Madara as well, as Boruto has far since exceeded Madara as a threat. Sasuke even prior to Boruto countered attacks way more dangerous than a Juubi Bomb. A "Mokuton big enough to cover the entire world" is irrelevant when it just gets cut through easily, an attack with higher scope doesn't make it any more likely to cause damage. You think a sage Rasengan is somehow weaker than a Temari wind blast, lol. Madara's chakra reserves and stamina are never stated or implied to be higher than Sasuke's after six paths buff, and even if they were, they don't compensate for how much stronger Sasuke is. Kamui doesn't work faster off smaller targets, it has the same speed and all that matters is being able to aim it correctly. Kamui only works faster when both eyes are used at the same time, making this guess of yours completely baseless. Sasuke destroys Madara, and it's not close in the slightest. Try talking when Madara can fight a Kaguya-level person, shut up otherwise.
@KKsKrissvs121 Жыл бұрын
Dear Six thank you. Most other Anime Tubers like Broku has no volume control and its a pain to listen to. Thank you so much for actually putting in effort.
@sixfromtokyo Жыл бұрын
I'm ngl to you bro... a lot of my other videos people complain about how low I sound so it may be inconsistent as you go through the channel.
@chrono9503 Жыл бұрын
The only reason they beat Kaguya was the sealing jutsu I don't think they coud have beat her. They were struggling against Madara they had no chance against Kaguya
@floyd7525 Жыл бұрын
he never said they could win but adult Sasuke and Naruto could wipe the floor with her by themselves also teenage naruto and Sasuke would destroy Madara
@GS-gd1nm Жыл бұрын
@@floyd7525 cap
@thatomanaka323 Жыл бұрын
Naruto and Sasuke never struggled against madara they weren't even sweating madara wass being clapped and he ran away to get his rinnegan in order to perform infinite tsukiyomi
@thatomanaka323 Жыл бұрын
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@saadabdullah5786 Жыл бұрын
@@GS-gd1nmNo naruto might lose to infinite tsykoyomi. Sasuke still wins.
@GokuSolosFictionCope11 ай бұрын
loved this video keep it up!
@ujjwalgupta5705 Жыл бұрын
I personally feel kaguya underestimated her power when thinking about otsutsuki retaliation for her betrayal. When she first land on earth she seems quite weak and frail, having almost no combat experience. Then she eats chakra fruit and gains lot of powers, and builds white zetsu army thinking she is not strong enough for momoshiki. But chakra fruit of earth is much more potent than other world fruits ( as seen when momoshiki eats multiple but still cant compete with Naruto and Sasuke) so power gain for kaguya will be much more higher than momoshiki. On top of that she later on merges with the god tree to become even more stronger. So that version of kaguya could easily fight momoshiki. She might not have great taijutsu but enough hax and much larger chakra to survive againt momo and kin. However ishhiki will still fold her
@Rule_163 Жыл бұрын
Just because Earths chakra fruit might be more potent than others doesnt make her stronger than Momoshiki. You have to remember that this was Kaguya's FIRST chakra fruit, she was a low ranking Otsutsuki compared to Isshiki so she wouldn't have eaten any fruits before, which explains why she seems so weak before she ate the fruit like you mentioned. Momoshiki on the other hand, would have eaten a number of chakra fruits during the time that Kaguya was on Earth, sealed away or even before she ever came to earth. Earths fruit may have been more potent, but Momoshiki would have been eating a number of chakra fruits over literal centuries, and Kaguya would have only eaten the 1 fruit. So sure, Kaguya might have briefly had the advantage over Momoshiki when she initially ate the fruit, but it makes no sense for Momoshiki to just not get stronger over the centuries that Kaguya was sealed, and thats not even accounting for his fused form
@Enward420 Жыл бұрын
I think people downplay her bone techniques. It could shatter susanoo armor, and if it stuck you, it disintegrated you. I also think its incapable of being absorbed, but I could be wrong. Her ability to change the battlefield to switch things up is also neat. I dunno about her durability, but I'm quite sure she can't take a punch or 2.
@axelb7775 Жыл бұрын
You know I absolutely hate when they call kaguya weak in boruto. I legit cannot wrap my mind around something, how did kaguya, who is supposedly way WAY weaker than iishiki, beat him nearly to death without even eating her first tree? She was slightly above human level back then, not even close to being a realized ootsutsuki and iishiki had all of his powers as he could not train in jigen's ear, so how would that even be possible, kaguya would die if he even looked at her wrong. This is just a massive plot hole imo to make the new ootsutsuki seem stronger than her
@Rule_163 Жыл бұрын
@@axelb7775 She caught him off guard, which has been shown to be devastating in the Naruto verse (Madara and Zetsu, Naruto and Shin, Kaguya and Sakura are all perfect examples)
@axelb7775 Жыл бұрын
@rule5120 those are different tho.. sakura wasn't alone and just punched (also it's a plot hole cuz kaguya has 360 vision and can't be ambushed like that), zetsu revived kaguya at that moment so he wasn't alone either, naruto was just stabbed, nowhere near death, but like we are talking about the difference between the strongest ootsutsuki we've seen so far, and a ootsutsuki imitation who's best feat was blow up people. Normal, regular people. Regardless of what she does to him there is nothing that can harm him with that massive power difference, no ninjutsu, no taijutsu, absolutely nothing. Maybe if she had a way to control actual elements, the same way kirin works, but she can't do that in her prime, she definitely couldn't do that then.
@iswiftyfox8997 Жыл бұрын
What you said about strategy mattering is perfect. Like people always act like just cuz someone is weaker means there is no way they can win. I mean weve seen countless times in the show where the weaker opponent won. Shikamaru does this almost all the time.
@CJ-D-GOAT Жыл бұрын
I thought it was obvious in this day and age... but here we are. Good video btw!
@edmilsonmacuacua10948 күн бұрын
Sasuke is in pair ( slightly inferior) to kurama jinchuriki , it's stated countless times that juubi>>>> kurama, so yeah , madara is the Strongest one...
@atroy3800 Жыл бұрын
Sasuke definitely beats Madara
@RafaelaLauanne10 ай бұрын
Nope
@chase_uchiha9 ай бұрын
He does dumbass
@chase_uchiha9 ай бұрын
Read data books and novels
@themacso41576 ай бұрын
he doesnt, madara is immortal and needs sun and moon seals. so no
@tensimkazem18126 ай бұрын
@@chase_uchiha Read data books and novels? what does it say?
@ZelZ-.-z Жыл бұрын
This gives me "Madara vs the Akatsuki in 2021" Energy and I like that. How times have changed.
@flo.av0 Жыл бұрын
There’s way easier ways to get Sasuke over Kaguya. Like how Toneri is stated to be the strongest enemy, meaning the strongest enemy Naruto has faced, which means Toneri is stronger than Kaguya. And Naruto low diffed Toneri, like he didn’t struggle at all. Many years pass from the Last to Boruto and Naruto and Sasuke were always portrayed to be relative or equals since the end of Shippuden. So logically, Boruto Sasuke would outscale The Last Naruto and Toneri and by extension Madara and Kaguya, since he had more time to train and gain experience. But even the Last Sasuke would slam Madara since he’s stated by the Narrator to be the strongest of Kakashi’s students in the Last Novel, meaning he’d already be stronger than Toneri, TL Naruto and Kaguya
@raystriker3512 Жыл бұрын
Oh yess, the famous promotional ad canon statement
@redbool1115 Жыл бұрын
@@raystriker3512why would they lie about that? And besides it adds up since Naruto and sasuke manhandled momoshiki once they got serious
@HC-gm4fo Жыл бұрын
Kaguya was stated to be the biggest threat after that
@resalmathew3707 Жыл бұрын
Can you give me the link to the statement of last novel. I wanna read it myself
@resalmathew3707 Жыл бұрын
Yep I got it. It’s in page 113
@khalilwilson2586 Жыл бұрын
White Zetsu is really a hard counter to momoshiki. So if 100k white zetsu could distract momoshiki and kaguya could beat kishiki then she would’ve had a good chance in their fight
@gr8b8m85 Жыл бұрын
Madara got done so dirty in the end, he didn't even really get a satisfying conclusion with his whole character arc.
@Phoenix-sj1sn Жыл бұрын
It was Kishimoto's way of showing us that he was too much to truly be defeated. "All people, even the strongest ones, have weaknesses, however, Uchiha Madara does not." - Kishi
@ΟδυσσέαςΣακκας-σ8λ Жыл бұрын
@@Phoenix-sj1snKishimoto never said that and kaguya is stronger than madara💀
@Riley.AM. Жыл бұрын
@@Phoenix-sj1snso kishimoto got rid of the a character bcs he was so strong. than replaces him with a stronger character?
@-DEYRA- Жыл бұрын
honestly if team 7 defeated madara like they did with kaguya i think he would have been clear to people that Sasuke is stronger
@williamemerson3249 Жыл бұрын
0:54 Literally all you have to do is ask one simple question. "Can you dodge a bullet at point blank range either through enough strategy and/or experience?"
@FlawlessWallace3350 Жыл бұрын
That’s such a good example no matter how smart you are you can’t really beat a bear in a fight unless you have a ton of equipment designed to help you
@breexy7190 Жыл бұрын
well but its still different between fight and Assault . Same as Kaguya beaten Ishiki bcs she literally backstabbed him, but that doesnt makes her stronger than him
@jamesbritt5353 Жыл бұрын
Homie ive watched this channel grow from the first time Swag put you on. You got the formula on lock. Be proud of yourself 🤙
@mrgotham3685 Жыл бұрын
So many people in this community don’t understand the concept of power progression.
@sixfromtokyo Жыл бұрын
It's really not that hard of a concept to grasp.
@mrgotham3685 Жыл бұрын
@@sixfromtokyoVery true, but I’ve seen so many people try to scale someone like Hagaromo as the strongest being in the verse over people like Isshiki and Baryon Naruto because of him being the “So6P” 😵💫
@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl Жыл бұрын
@@mrgotham3685 you do realize that hagarmo has creation of all things and basically infinite isgani?
@shinji136 Жыл бұрын
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hlThere isn't anything called "isgani", and creation of all things is meaningless in a battle scenario.
@mrgotham3685 Жыл бұрын
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl My guy he isn’t Jesus 💀
@ryan27229 Жыл бұрын
Can't believe people still debate this. Love this video.
@determination982 Жыл бұрын
The only problem I have with this video, is that statement about Kaguya being afraid of momoshiki, it's complete nonesens in any way fused or no, its more than likely a hint at isshiki existance, she was strong enough to set a trap on full power isshisiki even before she ate the fruit, and she is on the same level on otsutsuki monument as momo, and the fruid she ate was probably the strongest 10 tails we know. So if anything, she was preparing for isshiki return not those fodders.
@determination982 Жыл бұрын
To support this, Sasuke states that they are Kaguya level threat, and it sounds like he reffers to their power, but if you think about it, the objective to defeat Kaguya was to seal her using so6p power, and for those 2 is to kill them, the first is much much easier and shows the power difference.
@morifutai1916 Жыл бұрын
Kaguya would have no way of knowing if Isshiki is alive and wouldn’t think he is Also everything just blatantly says that it was about Momoshiki Stop reaching
@GodCentCed Жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHAHA...... no
@g_phantom_1252 Жыл бұрын
@@morifutai1916 it wasn't about only momoshiki fodder it was about momoshiki + kinshiki and plus there was some guy which looks like different from urashiki neither fodder urashiki nor momoshiki or kinshiki can do anythign agaistn kaguya those are just fodders that men can be one of the men in that destroyed tables when sasuke was in jigens dimension
@Devil-ig7kl Жыл бұрын
@@determination982they are kaguya level threats because they are otsutsuki
@thmistrapillay1811 Жыл бұрын
Fucking thank you bro❤️🔥 Its weird to see so much logic and sense being used in a "vs" video
@wnnfs9423 Жыл бұрын
Pre-Six-Paths Sasuke get mollywhopped by PreSix-Paths Madara, but Adult, Six-Paths Rinnegan Sasuke is obviously too much, even if you add Hashirama to help Madara.
@corterapidoetramontina2904 Жыл бұрын
Adult Sasuke does not have Six Paths Chakra. What are u talking about dude?
@redbool1115 Жыл бұрын
@@corterapidoetramontina2904if he didn’t have six paths chakra, he’d drop on the floor and be hospitalized from using his transportation ninjutsu once
@2_loko Жыл бұрын
@@redbool1115 Yup
@HC-gm4fo Жыл бұрын
@@redbool1115 😂😂 just be making up stuff
@redbool1115 Жыл бұрын
@@HC-gm4fo In NARUTO SHIPPUDEN it was stated that one portal takes up more than 1/3 of kcm2 + so6p Naruto’s chakra, why exactly does it reference Naruto’s chakra instead of sasuke? I don’t know. But that alone means sasuke never lost his six paths chakra. In fact he literally uses his chakra taxing abilities more in boruto than against kaguya. It’s literally just your headcanon that Naruto and sasuke somehow got weaker in boruto
@Nyfebtw Жыл бұрын
Love when bro uploads 🔥
@jacob_m.w9889 Жыл бұрын
hey six, could u do a video on the sannin vs the seven swordsman of the mist- i’m pretty sure sannin easily win but just curious
@Minato_Namikaze-I9q2 ай бұрын
Video ends at 00:13
@Abstrakt_YT5 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@demonmoonx9993 Жыл бұрын
I didn't even know this was debatable. Sasuke straight after getting the Rinne Sharingan started to pack Madara up. Why would Madara magically win against a stronger and more skilled version of Sasuke? Just because he doesn't have the Rinne Sharingan anymore doesn't mean he doesn't contend with people who are stronger than Kaguya baseline.
@xDiViNexInfectedx Жыл бұрын
That’s actually not true. He was only doing that to one eye Madara WITH the help of Naruto but Madara received two amps after the fact. Did we forget that Madara had both Naruto and Sasuke in a corner after getting his upgrades?? We didnt even see what new abilities he had because Black zetsu killed him but Madara was pretty confident he could take them after getting stronger. Sasuke was actually at his strongest when he gathered all nine tailed beasts and absorbed them into his Susano’o. I really believe people are downplaying Madara.
@demonmoonx9993 Жыл бұрын
@xDiViNexInfectedx Sasuke is astronomically stronger and more skilled than Madara as an adult. He regularly visited Kaguya's castle and threw hands with Naruto. The excuse of "But he has Naruto powers and even then some!" Is irrelevant when Sasuke has more power and 17 years to hone his skills. Madara loses, even if you gave him Kaguya's powers. I'd even go far as to say that you could give him that AND Kaguya herself, and they will still lose.
@CodeF416 Жыл бұрын
@@demonmoonx9993Madara has lived through an entire lifetime of fighting and has much more experience and skill than sasuke. What u talking about?
@demonmoonx9993 Жыл бұрын
@CodeF416 He still was getting his ass beat by Naruto and Sasuke
@-Sir_eli- Жыл бұрын
@@demonmoonx9993sasuke simply wouldn’t have enough chakra to keep going with 3 eyed Madara and he also has no response for limbo madara has enough durability to keep fighting with sasuke and not die because if he could survive a full power 8 gates guy then that either means sasuke would have a higher attack power than that or he simply would lose and I doubt sasuke has higher ap than 8 gates guy
@RubyAPBT Жыл бұрын
The problem is Boruto power level makes 0 sense. In that fight against Momoshiki and Kinshiki Gaara and Darui were able to make Momoshiki run away scared from them... Gaara and Darui have 0 chance to be on otsutsuki level... Also Kinshiki was being beaten by Sasuke but also Kurotsuchi and Choujuro and even trapped by them. Or how Boruto weak vanishing rasengan was able to hit and hurt momoshiki...(His rasengan wasn't even that strong at this time...) Or Isshiki was beating Naruto and Sasuke and when he was about too kill Sasuke Boruto sudenly got faster than him and rescued Sasuke... Let's be real Isshiki should have being ablot to kill Sasuke before Boruto could even react... But no Isshiki got outspeed by Boruto who at that point was not even faster than regular Naruto(without Sage mode or kurama). Or Boruto vs Kawaki where Boruto is able to hold Kawaki attacks with a normal kunai when Kawaki is suposed be very strong and just destroy it... Not just Otsutsuki. On Ao fight, the first one no one there was able to react against Ao (excep Konohamaru, but he got knoked down by a secret weapon) to the point he attacked Katasuke in front of than and snatched a glove. Boruto tried to attack him with a rasengan dashing against him, Ao was so faster that while Boruto was dashing he had time stare Boruto, put the glove and than couter it with the glove. Boruto had 0 reaction against it he just realized what happened after he lost the rasengan. But next day even after Boruto had fainted from lack of chakra because he show off the sword ability to take a lot of chakra he sudenly had a lot of chakra to makes clones, rasengans and like magic now every one was able to react to Ao... Like WTF. Did Naruto characters became Sayajin? There is also another thing about Kaguya is the one who almost killed Isshiki a health one, he was in this state even after 1.000+ years because of her. I don't think kinshiki and momoshiki were the ones she feared useless they had some weapon or abillity that could put her under their control that we didn't see. Because it makes 0 sense be that, especially because Isshiki was much stronger than both together or momoshiki after he ate kinshiki, and the one we saw was a dying version of him not his prime.
@g_phantom_1252 Жыл бұрын
its obvious thast naruto and sasuke are just kage level ... sasuke is just another madara level with 2 rinnegans ... but his chakra level is too low ... naruto is kage level also ... for example if hashirama would seal kurama inside of him he would be 10 times stronger than amdara ... adult naruto is just fodder ... darui and gaara put the guy who ate 20 divine trees into a cornenr and this people think momoshik is kaguya level its so poor ... weakling youngster 10 year old kid naruto and boruto and jeraia killed urashiki like a fodder sasuke couldn't even fight with that fodder urashiki sasuke bragged that he can solo kaguya level threat but momoshiki never was kaguya level since kaguya could destroy entire dimensions momoshiki couldn't even destroy one village lol momoshiki's taijutsu experience wasn't even at guy level ... guy would smash that fodder momoshiki lol his regeneration abilities are so weak lol its funny that how weakest version of rasengan destroyed momoshiksi body yet the guy ate 20 divien trees and he also absorbed kinshiki lol madara got sliced and diced and almost got fried by night guy the strongest taijutsu user we have seen in boruto and naruto ... but still he was caapble to regenerate ... i dont get the idea that those weakling fodders are kaguya level not even in dream the can reach kaguya level the weakling fodder momoshik iate 20 divine trees but wasn't even capable to cast any ninjutus or shinjutsu lol kaguya could just use truth seeking orbs at dimension levle but fodder momsohik iwasn't even capable to do so even after he ate kinshiki + 20 divine tree lol darui and gaara put him into a cornenr iisihki if he was strong he would visit kaguya many many times but he never dared since his regeneration abilities were also weak and weak nothing compared to madara ... madara was able to withstand narutos lava rasen shuriken empowered with six path senjutsu but poor weakling momoshiki got smashed by weakest version of it lol by burritos hand if iisihki was so storng he would appear front of kaguya after kaguyua smashed poor guy and after he possessed jigens body ... but he never dared to visi kaguya not even once in spite of that he had ten tails and he could use it against kaguya ... but not even that he could ... but hey he visited adult naruto and sasuke and defeated them in his weakest vessel . .. he also absorbed ten tails power since jigen was just a monk and his chakra level was too low so he needed ten tails ... but he never dared to visi kaguya .. never ever ... he was too busy seems since his abilities are trash he couldn t' even heal his hands and lower body like madara lol yet this people think jigen is some all-mighthy guy but never dared to visit kaguya never appeared in war arc as some new guy-enemy he never dared to appear after kaguya came out of demonic statue after zetsu unsealed her from demonic status which is husk of ten tails ... literally those otsotsukis we have seen are just fodders ... only strong otsotsuki will be shibai so called .. there's many shibai like persons i am sure not every otsotsuki would be weaklings like iisihki urashiki kinshiki and momoshiki are ... but those are fodders compared to kaguya ... sasuke never reach madara leevel since sasuke cant even fly since ... and madara can smash his poor susano by wood techniques for example shinsu senju hashiras two types of dragons and so on ... he can use limbo and limbo hengoku which can smash poorsasuke and he can do nothing agaisnt them since his moon seals are gone and now his power cant hurt those limbo clones heck he cant even use shadow clones and only physical attacks can hurt limbo so his susano can do zilch against them lol just limbo hengoku and his susano is done like he put all tailed beasts like a dog lol sasuke is literally fodder and this people think he is madara level because he bragged that he can fight kaguya level threats lol but these people forgot that kaguya smashed poor sasukes susano and if there was no naruto he would get fried in lava dimension twice ... naruto saved him ... sasuke is literally fodder ... all killing ash bones are enough to kill weakling sasuke and he can hide nowhere ... or kaguya just can merge with the nature and he can smash poor sasuke like she was smashing naruto when she merged with nature lol sasuke is nowhere at kaguya level this is stupidity ... this people dont use their brains ... what sasuke can use against nature istself when kaguya is merging with nature where sasuke can hide lol sasuke is literally fodder even shin uchiha almost smashed poor guy he is above kage level sure but a little bit ... nowhere he is at madara level since his chakra is too low and what sasuke got he got from hagoromo withotu hagoromo he would be fodder lol what madara gained it was always by his own power lol he acquired hashiramas cells by himself he awakened rinengan summoned demonic statue became ten tails jubi he ate divine tree (which is another ten tails made up by obito ) he awakened rinen sharingan and then zetsu betrayed him ... what sasuke can do against that madara he tried to hit him but there were limbos around him nothing got madara ... he couldn't hurt him ... i am not saying anything against his giant susano which is much much bigger than sasukes ... since sasukes susano is the same size as kurama is and kurama is the same size as hachibi is and in manga when night guy uses hirudora against madara we have seen there that evne not complete susano is the same size as hachibi is (i mean madars imperfect susano ) ... sasukes susano is smaller and weaker lol nothing sasuke has except his teleportation jutsu amonetijakara and time-space ninjutsu lol sasuke is strong yeah nowhere at madara level neither kaguya level and for sure not hagoromo level lol those will eat him alive in a seconds ... even zetsus stated that nowadays reincarnations are too weak sasuke/naruto ... since without kurama he is weakling boy lol without hagoromos chakra sasuke got fodderized by one eyed madara lol literally weaklings ... hagoromo leveled them up ... and yeah as this author of this video said we should stop discussing against sasuke vs madara since its too dumb to think that sasuke is madara level lol
@historyking9984 Жыл бұрын
Also people underestimate Madara. Both Kaguya and Ishiki lost to shadow clones .Madara can tell the difference. His wood style is a perfect punter to Naruto’s tailed beast chakra and will absorb it. He’s got two mangekyo’s he didn’t use and the Rinnegan abilities which seem superior to Sasukes. His susanoo is the exact same level as Sasukes.
@clickmaster3692 Жыл бұрын
The copium is insane 😭
@RubyAPBT Жыл бұрын
@@historyking9984 In Kaguya case she wasn't able to know the difference, but she had a lot of power to kill Naruto and Sasuke even without it. Kakashi buff at the end of the fight was what saved them from lose the battle. Sakura and Obito also helped a lot bringing Sasuke back. Sasuke from Boruto is a bit hard to understand his power level, because Boruto is a mess. There character become as strong as they need to be or weak in the plot demands. Sasuke mastered his rinnegan on those 15 years, but in Boruto he sudenly forget his abilities. At same time the plot is not clear of how much chakra he have. Some times it looks like he have a lot other times looks like he have very little. Boruto looks like forgot that bijuu chakra are especial giving an extremely huge buff to all atributes, sage mode do the same and both abilities stack. It is never explained how Sasuke can keep up with Naruto when he lost Hagoromo chakra and now just have his normal one. In Boruto Naruto get hit by normal weapons and pierced by it LOL Like when he got stabed Shin attaks... The dude was in KCM + sage mode and didn't react to that. Boruto just forgot that 4 tails Narutos was almost impossible to piece with normal weapons... Even Orochimaru especial sword wasn't able to scratch him in 4 tails mode... Now anything gets throught him. The power level became very messy.
@Riley.AM. Жыл бұрын
@@historyking9984clones? u mean the naruto clones that are equal in strength to the actual naruto. and than isshiki was already dying and crumbling to death. kawaki just laid the final blow. that does not take away anything from either isshiki or kaguya
@axelb7775 Жыл бұрын
People don't relize that older characters do not compare to the new ones, simply because they were gone while the new ones were improving. Madara is incredibly strong, but he has a cap, itachi, amazing character - died too early, shisui same case. If these characters had the oportunity to train and improve they may very well be unstoppable, but they are just simply stuck in time and are no longer comparable
@HC-gm4fo Жыл бұрын
They are relative
@xDiViNexInfectedx Жыл бұрын
Yeah but Madara still has hax that are very relevant in Naruto even today. He had three Rinnegan, had most of the Juubi absorbed and the tree of life. The thing is, Madara at his peak (three eyes) is featless but he was confident he could take out Naruto and Sasuke.
@axelb7775 Жыл бұрын
@xDiViNexInfectedx you're over-glorifying madara. He was a mere imitation of an ootsutsuki. Yes, he was an amazing shinobi.. for his time. He wasn't stronger than any of the actual ootsutsuki, he failed to take on naruto and sasuke at the time they fought and he simply didn't scale up because he died. Again, he is great, when you're not comparing him to the big league shinoby that continued to grow, it's the same case as itachi.
@HC-gm4fo Жыл бұрын
@@axelb7775 Madara was already above Naruto and Sasuke with one eye. By the time he died he became a full otsutsuki. He is still relative to adult Naruto and Sasuke. The reason he isn’t scaled up is because he died before using anything close to full power.
@nabilstudent25758 ай бұрын
@@HC-gm4fono brain no pain. Create own happiness
@Legendsplumber Жыл бұрын
Dude these quality vids are like the ones you’d expect every other month from ppl but six be dropping them back to back
@ZeroGoofs Жыл бұрын
9:40 imo you could also make the argument that Kaguya has been a historically paranoid character. She was scared her sons would overthrow her with the chakra she gave them so she went on the immediate offensive
@potato_duud6166 Жыл бұрын
yeah but everything she did on earth was to get ready for momoshiki
@ZeroGoofs Жыл бұрын
@@potato_duud6166 taking the chakra from her kids n such wasn’t part of the plan originally
@jonikalemasi3062 Жыл бұрын
She literally betrayed the clan....she wanted to hold off the entire clan not just momshiki and kinshiki. Also mind u....she almost killed ishiki no matter how off guard he was.....Ishiki is stated the be far stronger than momoshiki so...
@ZeroGoofs Жыл бұрын
@@jonikalemasi3062 bro yes we all know this. That is not what I am discussing with you. I am saying her turning on HER CHILDREN was not part of her original plans. Momoshiki & ishiki have nothing to do with this specific statement. She saw how powerful her children were and tried to take that power for herself. Please read before spewing at me
@potato_duud6166 Жыл бұрын
@@ZeroGoofs well yeah but taking chakra from the entire earth was. she was afraid of her kids because if they would find out what she did to prepare for momoshiki
@nitehawk81137 ай бұрын
Also literally says that Sasuke is strong enough to fight a Kaguya level threat on his own
@ciplk17676 ай бұрын
Sasuke also Said he can handle meno a dinasour yet sakura had to save him
@Kryptic496 Жыл бұрын
Final valley sasuke is stronger than any form of madara
@gammafrost Жыл бұрын
That’s only if sasuke has absorbed the tailed beasts into his susanoo. If not then sasuke loses that battle hard. The two of them were struggling against two rinnegan eyed jinchuriki madara.
@Kryptic496 Жыл бұрын
@@gammafrostthey were still learning their powers then and actually were doing just fine until the infinite tsukyomi was cast. And sasuke is immune to that with his susano active. Sasukes speed is either on par or surpasses madara aswell
@GS-gd1nm Жыл бұрын
Final valley sasuke has yin 6 paths, rinnegan and all tailed beasts. Madara has yin and yang 6 paths, rinnegan, rinnesharingan and all tailed beasts. Think again.
@zeyyyboggiee Жыл бұрын
@@GS-gd1nmthis isn’t Pokémon, Sasuke still power cliffs despite having less hax his hacks and stats are more effective and maxed out
@themacso41576 ай бұрын
delusional kids
@Glorynlmb Жыл бұрын
Also sasuke needed to save chakra in order to teleport everyone back after the momo fight, so Sasuke was definitely not at full power.
@floyd7525 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure he was about half power after the teleport maybe less and i believe he could have beat momoshiki fused and unfused if he was full power
@short_dose_of_internet Жыл бұрын
Why tf Sasuke doesn't use chakra and ninjutsu absorption ability of rinnegan whenever he gets a chance or needs to ?
@RipAllOpps Жыл бұрын
Madara is immortal. We never saw both eye rinnagan madara actually fight. He has 4 limbo clones with his rinnagan. He could pretty much do all the moves sasuke can expect teleport. You could also say what If madara learned transportation techniques if he got to keep his rinnagans. He has Sage mode six paths 10 tails and he has two rinnagans obito even said himself if madara gets both his rinnagan nobody will be able to stop him. There is no real moves sasuke could do that could actually kill madara. Also, madara could absorb sasuke Chakra too.
@breexy7190 Жыл бұрын
1- Obito said that bcs he had literally no knowleadge of Kaguya and other more powerfull character + his knowleadge of Hagoromo was fcking poor ( bro literally said that he is as strong as him 💀💀💀) 2-Naruto and Sasuke we're equal and 1 naruto clone was equal to 1 limbo. Sasuke can literally makes shadow clones too, not just as many as naruto but there is no problem to create 4 and sasuke can literally SEE THEM Naruto could only sense them 3-Thats true he could learn it . but even rinnegan have speical ability only to 1 user same as MS. Soo madara learing this ability is just hypothetical. 4- Immortality doesnt mean you cannot lose. Kaguya was, Hiddan was, even technically Kakazu was. + Madara was never stated to be Immortal. Madara said that Guy almost killed them (implies he could die there) but he regenerated. Then Sasuke splited in half ( which is fcking big feat on its own) and said: "I guess its NOT ENOUGH TO KILL YOU". And Madara just smirked. That just implying that its possible to kill him. But sasuke doesnt need to do that. He can seal him in Chibaku tensei ( He could maybe break, but sasuke was able as Teen in 1 moment seal 9 WHOLEASS BIJUUS at once. Pretty sure he could pull all strenght in One and seal Madara)
@RipAllOpps Жыл бұрын
@breexy7190 1 clone was not equal to 1 limbo at the end. sasuke said madara Limbo is still outside, meaning Naruto clones lost the fight with the limbo clones.
@RipAllOpps Жыл бұрын
@@breexy7190 u can't can't seal madara in planetary devastation because madara could also do the same thing. Madara could seal sasuke.
@xDiViNexInfectedx Жыл бұрын
@@breexy7190Thats not true, we literally only saw Naruto’s clones go head to head with Madara’s limbo on just one page but after the fact, Naruto’s clones are gone and Madara’s limbo are still kicking. In fact his Limbo actually surrounded the both of them and Naruto was scared. Three eyed Juubidara is featless and we didnt see him use full power but he was confident he could defeat Naruto and Sasuke after his upgrades. Madara also became borderline immortal after absorbing that tree, people are really out here underestimating Madara.
@App689705 ай бұрын
@@breexy7190sasuke can't damage limbo, he can see not damage he said it himself that only naruto punch with 6 path sage damage limbo we never see sasuke damage limbo
@Oriodion Жыл бұрын
Six i hope you read this because man you’re honestly a very consistent uploading youtuber and your videos are well edited and informative and almost never incorrect. You get a sub.
@redbool1115 Жыл бұрын
Can we stop talking about isshiki vs juubidara? Or nagato vs itachi?
@oldkingcoal4376 Жыл бұрын
No, we can't. They are interesting matchups to discuss about.
@redbool1115 Жыл бұрын
@@oldkingcoal4376 no they aren’t they are as big of a stomp fest as this video
@GS-gd1nm Жыл бұрын
Ishiiki cant percieve limbo so its kinda real..
@redbool1115 Жыл бұрын
@@GS-gd1nm you can only counter someone so much to the point where it doesn't matter, isshiki's stts are a hundredfold better than madara
@GS-gd1nm Жыл бұрын
@@redbool1115 one stab to the heart will hurt ishiiki and hed have no way to counter it
@garrettchandler1948 Жыл бұрын
What if madara had prep time though? And a gun? And Sasuke owed him $200?
@buddylee5712 Жыл бұрын
Adult Sasuke claps Madara harder than Sakura's cheeks
@aurizzistic Жыл бұрын
Got damn
@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl Жыл бұрын
@@aurizzistic not really. By the look of it sasuke barley touches Sakura
@komlat253 Жыл бұрын
Hot
@shadowuchiha4311 Жыл бұрын
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl Damn
@Doceli-dg3cn Жыл бұрын
I think Sasuke did the bedroom thing😏 blind and said "oh this easy I can do this with my eyes closed " then eventually after sasuke left the village they had a child
@TheCEOofTheMoment Жыл бұрын
good video once again, you seem to be on a roll right now
@Animangapage Жыл бұрын
Now Do Sasuke without the Rinnegan vs Shippuden Verse
@NopeP Жыл бұрын
Big problem with your Momoshiki > Kaguya argument. Kaguya has not seen Momoshiki post fruit absorption, etc. They haven't seen each other for 1000s and 1000s of years. Kaguya also broke clan law, which means the whole clan will be after her, not just the trio that come to earth. Kaguya is building an army to increase her strength. Since now the entire clan will want her dead. So why wouldnt she make herself in the best position possible. Lets not forget how 4 kage shinobi were pushing the Otsutsuki duo without Naruto and Sasuke's help. That speaks volumes of how low the power scale is for the otsutsuki duo. Also Shikamaru actually held down Kinshiki with his shadows on his own. Shikamaru openly states at the 5 kage meeting that without Naruto and Sasuke the entirety of Konoha are not Continental level. You know the guy that gives out Shinobi missions, who knows how strong Konoha's shinobi are. Let that sink in. This means he himself is far from a Continental level being. Yet he can hold down Kinshiki...that can only be explained as Kinshiki is much weaker than hypothesised. A Kaguya level threat is planetary level minimum. Yet Kinshiki using his full power couldn't even knock out Kage opposition or create an attack larger than a crater size. Fused Momoshiki couldn't even punch through Gaara's sand wall...Kaguya will headbutt Kinshiki or Fused Momoshiki and they will die in one shot. Kaguya is negging Six paths perfect susano'o with a headbutt. Kinshiki is struggling vs Chojuro and Kurotsuchi...Momoshiki is struggling vs Gaara and Darui with a sword 😂. I wonder what is stronger Darui's sword or Sasuke's perfect susano'o sword? Kaguya shattered Sasuke's entire Susano'o twice in the same fight. Yet Momoshiki is running away from sand😂😂😂. Fused Momoshiki will do what vs Kaguya? Punch her, that wont do anything because he cannot punch through sand. Kaguya wins in terms of physical power. She can neg six paths susano'o with her physicality. AP Kaguya's is higher, DC she is higher. Abilities, she has more. She also has senjutsu which they do not have because they only eat the chakra fruit and they do not absorb the Juubi. Kaguya also has insta kill attacks and Space time Dojutsu. No offence but Kaguya swats Fused Momoshiki. He literally cannot damage her, she will over power his offensive attacks, take it to a physical battle and again she'll win. Lava Golem vs Eighty gods vaccum = Kaguya winning. Lava Golem vs Ash bones. Again Kaguya wins. Then a physical fight and again she wins.
@thedevilhimself1481 Жыл бұрын
No lol, that has literally nothing to do with anything, the chakra fruit on earth doesn’t account for Momoshiki’s dozens of chakra fruits, post absorption or not, there’s 6 statements proving Momo > Kaguya. Stop coping
@NopeP Жыл бұрын
@thedevilhimself1481 there isn't any statements disproving what I have said. Feats > statements. Kaguya's feats are greater than Fused Momoshikis
@thedevilhimself1481 Жыл бұрын
@@NopeP prove feats > statements
@GS-gd1nm Жыл бұрын
@@thedevilhimself1481 im stating that i can beat mike tyson in a fight so does that make it true? Just common sense dude
@GS-gd1nm Жыл бұрын
@@thedevilhimself1481and quality > quantity of fruits, kinshiki said earths curvature exceeds 16 and is an anomaly so must be reported to the clan
@tillii4900 Жыл бұрын
The only way for madara to win this fight is to argue that madara is around kaguya's level (which is doable) and then saying that when sasuke said momoshiki was a greater threat than kaguya he was exagerating, you would also have to say that naruto and sasuke in boruto are around the same level as when they fought in the valley of the end and haven't gotten any stronger, then saying kaguya is weaker but still comparable to isshiki (which she clearly isn't). This is the only (Logical) way to make madara win
@actuallyreallybored Жыл бұрын
The problem with this argument is you have to be *really* biased in Madara’s favour. To put it bluntly, if the Kaguya’s Chakra + Rinnesharingan amp multiplied Madara’s power by *nine* times he still wouldn’t be comparable to Kaguya. 1 Rinne-Madara got one shot on-the-verge-death by one Rasenshuriken where Kaguya shrugged off nine different flavours of Cellular Shredding *after using Amenominaka multiple times when Madara can’t do it once AND before her exponential power amp* - That’s not all. Kaguya also fought and held her own against an endless omnidirectional army of Shadow Clones(Where one was enough to match a Limbo Madara) *while she wasn’t trying to kill Naruto and holding back AND again PRE-AMP post chakra loss* c’mon. She also shrugged of a blow from Boil Release whose power amp made Naruto have Unparalled Taijutsu Power. Kaguya’s abilities also have potency that far exceed Madara’s. She could casually ambush Naruto and Sasuke who could sense and see Limbo Clones. Her Ash-Killing Bones is far more lethal than anything Madara can pull. Her Vacuum Fist causally ripped apart a P. Susanoo when Madara had to stall via Multiple Meteors. Her Regeneration is also better and her Expansive Truth-Seeking Orb’s Potency exceeds anything of Madara’s. FFS People debate whether EoS Naruto(+ Vs Sasuke abilities) could best Madara(IT Restricted).
@tillii4900 Жыл бұрын
@@actuallyreallybored @actuallyreallybored3552 yeah well, I mean tbh we only really see Madara get curb stomped by Naruto before he took in the god tree and got his second Rinnegan. Also before he had the third eye. I don't think kaguya and Madara are so far apart, but I don't see Madara really winning. Also Madara's arsenal does have some things as lethal as ash bones, mainly just the soul steal of the Rinnegan. But he really doesn't have any win cons against her, she just goes around him with portals, and the best he can hope for is being able to see her with the limbo clones and dodge or something (I don't remember if he can see in real time through the limbo clones). The only way Madara can beat her would be if she can't see or sense the limbo clones, and through that get her with the soul steal or start chipping away at her. But against Isshiki it's different, if we equalize their stats and ignore lore, Madara could get him more easily, mainly because isshiki is far less hacks based, he doesn't have really anything to really get Madara (and also I don't think he can see the limbos), he doesn't seem to have TSO, and he probably doesn't have any counter to the Rinnegan powers.
@actuallyreallybored Жыл бұрын
@@tillii4900 Yeah, Madara vs Kaguya isn’t probably *that* much of a Stomp, but Kaguya is the pinnacle of Shippuden Power for a reason, If Naruto didn’t have thousands of Shadow Clones to deal with her frankly, too many, instant kills(Kaguya you do not need *two* ways to easily paralyse your opponents), Team 7 would be screwed and Rinne Madara only uses four Limbo Clones, Heck no one but Naruto uses Clones even when they easily should. Eh, Six Path Gimmick like Regular Clones can’t contain Yin Six Path stuff I guess. I don’t think the Soul Steal works here. I’m fairly certain the Soul Steal only works on those way weaker than themselves. Also Kaguya has the *Rinne* - *Sharingan* and *Byakugan* (Kishimoto your thematics are not subtle, well they are 98% of the fandom misses way too much but not in this case) + She’s upset that her sons *inherited some* of her power. Y’know the same Six Path Power Naruto and Sasuke are using to fight Madara and herself. Yeah, if Madara tries to Soul Rip her she can probably do the same to him. And if she can’t see Limbo Clones I will literally eat my shit lol. Also Hiruzen *summoned the Shinigami to Soul Rip Orochimaru* and Orochimaru resisted for like 3 hours and could still telekinesis his Kusanagi to stab Hiruzen and fight it off. Pain also only uses Soul Steal against fodder and Obito and Madara just never use the ability even when it could probably afford them an instant win so I assume it’s worthless against *The Goddess of Chakra* here.
@A13b1006 ай бұрын
@@tillii4900 Kaguya tored Isshiki before she got chakra fruit and tentails. Isshiki had no chakra left to plant the karma, which hints he used it against her in a fight, and if you refuse this we know that when Ten-tails Madara got cut in half by sasuke he still had chakra to cross dimension. Madaras chakra >isshiki which makes kaguyas chakra beyond isshiki
@MrCakePerson Жыл бұрын
I’m glad you made the statement regarding boruto characters. Mfs really out here saying sarada is stronger than juubito
@galientl4723 Жыл бұрын
At full power Adult Sasuke definitely wins, but Sasuke during the war arc ain’t beating Madara since Kishimoto had to pull a deus ex machina with Kaguya because he couldn’t think of a way for him to lose.
@OchidHaven Жыл бұрын
Noooo. Even prime Sasuke is no match. The main reason his Chakra and durability. Also not to forget how he lost to a child, and a Dino and never even did anything to Isshiki at all who was at his deathbed
@galientl4723 Жыл бұрын
@@OchidHaven you say this as if Madara could have done anything to Isshiki. Scaling after Naruto the Last is cracked unfortunately.
@OchidHaven Жыл бұрын
@@galientl4723 Limbo solos Isshiki. Stop watching Naruto from reels.
@galientl4723 Жыл бұрын
@@OchidHaven if that’s what you gotta tell yourself sure man, despite Naruto needing to bust out his strongest form that will kill him just to deal with him.
@OchidHaven Жыл бұрын
@@galientl4723 Bro Read Naruto or watch Boruto. Ffs I cannot have explaining to u why Limbo is so op against Isshiki. He doesn’t have Rinnegan and Six paths which means he can’t see or hurt Limbo at all. Like he literally can’t do anything. Stfu and stop watching Naruto from reels
@poppinpineapples3481 Жыл бұрын
I love that u bring up the fact that people aren’t going to lye when they’re thinking something, I think some people treat a characters thoughts as the same as them talking
@DragonLandouter Жыл бұрын
Were limbo clones discussed? I might have missed it
@zecikk_5651 Жыл бұрын
Bro Sasuke can see them 💀 At this point they're literally shadow clones
@DragonLandouter Жыл бұрын
@@zecikk_5651 but he's only got one arm😂
@zecikk_5651 Жыл бұрын
@@DragonLandouter so? What's your point? He fights with a sword. And yk, you only use one hand to hold a sword
@DragonLandouter Жыл бұрын
@@zecikk_5651 they got hands bro. He's got hand
@zecikk_5651 Жыл бұрын
@@DragonLandouter So? What's your point. He didn't lose any power💀
@perishing Жыл бұрын
Not really Sasuke still losing to Madara...
@CWTempest29 күн бұрын
You’re so ignorant
@brysonbender7715 Жыл бұрын
Finally somebody said it these fans be stuck in a genjutsu 😂 they really think madara is still relevant in terms of power 😂
@themacso41576 ай бұрын
he actually is, adult sasuke has no moon seal needed to beat jubidara. remember he was immortal so only sealing jutsu can defeat him. dont forget kid, get out of infinite tsukuyomi aready
@brysonbender77156 ай бұрын
@themacso4157 sasuke and naruto are stated to be equals in the beginning of boruto and can fight kaguya level threats, kaguya was stated to be above madara alone so good try kid and release the genjutsu madara put you under 😂😂😂🤣
@themacso41576 ай бұрын
@@brysonbender7715 that doesnt mean they can defeat kaguya without the seals lel get around that cope yeah kaguya above madara IN CHAKRA LOL as if kaguya would be a better soldier and strategist than madara. Boruto itself is a bad infinite tsukuyomi dream😂😂😂
@brysonbender77156 ай бұрын
@@themacso4157 it's already been stated
@themacso41576 ай бұрын
@@brysonbender7715 sasuke cant even touch madaras limbo and madara cant be killed hes immortal, sasuke only kekkei genkai he doesnt share with madara is amaterasu and thats useless agasint him. Sasuke needs both sun and moon seals to beat madara while madara can chop suei sasuke and he doesnt have regeneration so hes fried as a kfc
@tymon39 Жыл бұрын
Sasuke and Naruto never even fought 3eyed Madara lmao. All signs pointed to him murdering them
@brianlaundrie5787 Жыл бұрын
They never really fought Dual Rinnegan OR even God Tree absorbed Juubidara either! They literally only got one legitimate attack on him which was a complete surprise attack due to Sasuke's Amenotejikara ability, and Madara still COUNTERED it by substituting himself with Limbo (Let's also not forget that Madara's Limbo slapped Naruto during this "fight"). Madara then finds out the distance Sasuke's Rinnegan can't affect him at (Showing how smart he is) and goes for his other eye. He then LETS Sasuke "blitz" him to Kamui out of their to get his other eye. These people actually believe Sasuke truly blitzed Madara as in he couldn't do anything about it. It's already been explained that Kamui is slow in transfer speed. Madara allowed himself to get cut in half so he can successfully use Kamui without being interrupted (For all u Sasuke fans/Madara haters, search up "Sasuke never blitzed Madara" on Google and you'll find the Reddit post. The guy explains it perfectly and ffs it wouldn't even make sense for Sasuke to actually blitz him because then he should've been able to do it ANYTIME throughout the "fight" lol). Madara then gets both Rinnegan and they get pushed back by Limbo which showed how untouchable he was when having his FOUR Limbo shadows around himself. Then casually spawns a dozen meteors with no sweat and u know the rest of the story. They never were "pushing Madara back", but these people who are most likely age 16 or under clearly don't pay attention...
@DarkHalf7685 Жыл бұрын
@@brianlaundrie5787 You're the only smart person in this comment section
@ChrisTookFlight Жыл бұрын
Yea they fought Kaguya who’s stronger
@tymon39 Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisTookFlight Kaguya problem is she wasn’t trained. She shitstomps them lmao. Madara is trained. 3 eyed Madara is painting them all over the ground
@bob-ot8pl Жыл бұрын
The part with the wake up wake up wake up in the middle of the video really spoke to me
@TheDarthgrant Жыл бұрын
9:10 I’m at this time stamp and I want to point something out for everyone… The reason these statements don’t support Momoshiki being stronger than Kaguya is two fold. 1st, Kaguya was the “Kinshiki” to Isshiki. Before they came to earth, Kaguya could’ve vary well been weaker than Momoshiki, and Momoshiki’s demeanor towards Kaguya would support that, but the issue here is, the “Chakra Fruit”. Kaguya nor Momoshiki knew about what was happening with the other. Proven by Momoshiki having not known about what happened to Kaguya and the likes. Given this fact, Momoshiki wouldn’t have known how strong Kaguya would’ve been, and since Momoshiki is the “Isshiki” of his cell with Kinshiki, she would’ve known Momoshiki would’ve been the one eating the Chakra Fruits from the planets they harvested and as we know, not all Chakra Fruits are the same. Some are stronger than others because the chakra and abilities from the people drained are potentially stronger than on other planets, and that isn’t an assumption either. If new Chakra Fruit were allowed to be grown in the war arc, it would be VASTLY stronger than when Kaguya & Isshiki came to earth because back then, Ninja didn’t exist and Chakra wasn’t used until Hagoromo taught it. In Naruto’s time, you have Tens of Thousands of Ninja whom have FAR superior Chakra than the average civilian. The record of people who have lived and died would contain all past Kages. Hagoromo, Indra & Ashura, all of their descendants and Reincarnates, Etc. So knowing this is an “Unquantifiable” Factor because of how strong a Chakra Fruit is is HIGHLY dependent on the Planet and people, Kaguya wouldn’t have “feared” the weaker Momoshiki from 1000 Prior, but the unquantifiably STRONGER Momoshiki after eating Chakra fruits for 1000 years. We know he is “Weaker” than War Arc Kaguya because he was defeated by Naruto and Sasuke, both of whom have no scaling putting them near or above War Arc Kaguya. This “Hypothesis” from Sasuke was the only thing scaling them and its based on a misconception. Kaguya feared an “Unquantifiable Variable” regarding Momoshiki.
@breexy7190 Жыл бұрын
Ur right they didnt know of each others Momo knew only about prio-Charka fruit Kaguya and didnt fear her Kaguya knew only 1000years ago prio Unfused momo AND FEARED HIM AFTER EATING CHARKA FRUIT. You can argue that she feared both Momo and Kinshiki (or Urashiki but lets not talk about him ) even tho it would made 1000years ago Fused momo I really REALLY doubt that in those 1000 years momo didnt harvest single planted and just chilled. Even tho if he did. Kaguya still FEARED this version EVEN AFTER EATHIG THAT FRUIT Momo solos
@GS-gd1nm Жыл бұрын
Fax, she was afraid of how strong he COULD be, she got this strong with one fruit after all
@TheDarthgrant Жыл бұрын
@@breexy7190 It’s not the fact that he didn’t harvest a CF, it’s the fact not all Chakra Fruits are the same strength. The Strength of the Chakra Fruit is again, dependent on the Strength of the Chakra of the People on the Planet and the Record of Who lived and Died on the planet. Momoshiki eating a Chakra fruit from a fidder planet doesn’t mean he’s be as strong or Stronger than Kaguya. Ontop of that, when she was ressurected, Chakra had been strengthened on Earth thanks to Hagoromo Teaching it and Indra Weaponizing it. The Chakra from Infinite Tsukiyomi was vastly stronger than the chakra from the Original CF she ate. And then, the final nail in the coffin for Momoshiki is the fact that he lost to Naruto & Sasuke. There was no proof Momoshiki was stronger than Kaguya after 1000 Years of her being on earth, and nothing OTHER THAN Sasuke’s Hypothesis scaled them over Kaguya, but as Explained, Kaguya had no idea how strong Momoshiki would be after 1000 Years, considering HE is the one who eats the Chakra Fruits. Sasuke’s hypothesis doesn’t account for that variable and this scaling from it faulty.
@breexy7190 Жыл бұрын
@@TheDarthgrant thanks for this random hypothetical fact, now i can use it to enhance momoshiki even more, he could harvest dozons of charka fruits dozons time stronger than on Earth
@afromanafas7 ай бұрын
Madara is legit trash vs Boruto characters
@hainguyn9487 ай бұрын
eh, he still beat outer member of Kara and Deppa, which are trash at their job
@umjuul4 ай бұрын
@@hainguyn948boruto scaling is ass, in terms of haxs/chakra. Infinite Tsukuyomi he beats allot of characters in the boruto verse. But like i said. The scaling is goofy.
@hainguyn9484 ай бұрын
@@umjuul Ik, we just have to deal with it, all Otsutsuki are immune to Genjutsu and only affected by it if they so desired anyway
@umjuul4 ай бұрын
@@hainguyn948 where is it stated all otsutsukis are immune to genjutsu?
@hainguyn9484 ай бұрын
@@umjuul Black Zetsu stood under the infinite tsukuyomi and it did nothing to him
@historyking9984 Жыл бұрын
One huge problem. Naruto at the end of the war beat Sasuke with the tailed beast. That Sasuke made an Indra susanoo superior to adult Sasukes perfect Susano . And his chakra reserves are far greater as welll. Therefore Ten Tails Madara > Naruto and Sasuke> Naruto > Sasuke with tailed beast > adult Sasuke . Sasuke couldn’t beat Naruto with the tailed beast. Then Naruto gained the other half of Kurama on top of that making him even stronger .Adult Sasuke hasn’t gained any techniques or new abilities yet somehow is equal to adult Naruto . Naruto’s been confirmed to have gotten more stale since becoming Hokage by both Kurama and Sasuke. The only logical way for Sasuke and Naruto to be even is that Naruto’s gotten far weaker from not fighting . Unless you believe that Sasuke can somehow make up the power gap of losing the tailed beast and have Naruto get even stronger by gaining all of Kurama with no new eyes or abilities in the time since the war .And Sasukes own showings against Kinshiki who’s weaker than Madara for sure provided even more proof. If Sasuke was as strong as he says he should’ve been able to beat fused Momoshiki on his own.
@zecikk_5651 Жыл бұрын
Kishimoto said that they got stronger. You can also see their power up in The Last movie. They're on a new level. Sasuke didn't loose against Kinshiki. He would easily win but he didn't want to drag the fight because of Momoshiki also being there. He didn't know how strong Momoshiki was so he played it safe and ran away
@historyking9984 Жыл бұрын
@@zecikk_5651 I’m not just talking about that fight but the one afterwards. He fight is with the other kage and it takes a bit to seal kinshiki. Also base Momoshiki said the 9 tails chakra was a lot and couldn’t even fully absorb it easily . That alone makes him pail in comparison to Kaguya . Momoshiki also ate several chakra pills throughout the time before fusing making him stronger than normal.
@zecikk_5651 Жыл бұрын
@@historyking9984 Okay so? The pills are a part of his arsenal. Kaguya never really absorbed any chakra as far as I remember so idk what do you mean by that. 90% of the Kinshiki fight was actually just the 4 kage vs Kinshiki. Sasuke literally swung his sword once, creating an opening for the 4 kage to seal Kinshiki.
@Sheanya938 Жыл бұрын
@@zecikk_5651last movie is stupid love story of Naruhina sasuke has no feats there
@Sheanya938 Жыл бұрын
So6p Naruto destroyed kaguya madara is no exception Naruto can regenerate has all individual tailed beast chakra if it hits madara the same shit that happened to obito and Kaguya gonna happen as it was given directly by hogoromo
@pinoproxy2828 Жыл бұрын
i agree with most of the things you said but madara is way better at using his rinnegan than sasuke and keep in mind that we could have gotten a better perfect susano for him with his six paths powers if he had the chance to use so we never know for sure
@williambreeze2659 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video!
@prysm_eke5696 Жыл бұрын
Whats with all the "wake up"s at 11:23 freaked me out a little ngl
@toptextbottomtext3062 Жыл бұрын
Can somebody explain to me how Kaguya could know how strong Momoshiki and Kinshiki (or their fusion) would be when they came to earth? She could have easily overestimated how strong they'd be when she'd have to fight them. If you wanna argue that because Sasuke saw them and still thought they could be Kaguya level means that they are that's easy to debunk because Sasuke never saw Momoshiki fight and also the otsutsuki duo in their base form has so many anti-feats like being stopped by Shikamaru or Kinshiki struggling with Kurotsuchi who got off-screened by Ku who's just Onoki, but ass. Also in the case of BFR why couldn't Madara just eventually learn how to use space time ninjutsu just like Sasuke did? Kaguya/the Ten Tails could literally give him instructions on how to do it like when they told Madara to absorb the god tree.
@christopher8295 Жыл бұрын
Madara ain't weak by any means, for exemple, boruto sakura wouldn't be able to defeat madara i completely agree with that. However i'm tired with peoples overrating madara to the point they think normal madara (yes not even atleast juubidara) can kick adult rinnegan sasuke's ass, pliz......🤦♂️ Sasuke has already proved to be able to keep up with a much stronger madara in the past and did already fight stronger opponent than that, let's put that boruto hate aside and be real, normal madara IS NOT on adult rinnegan sasuke lvl.
@2_loko Жыл бұрын
Nah even seen people say BLIND Madara would beat Adult Sasuke unironically
@josebatxu32 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, if Madara bodied pretty much an entire batallion without breaking a sweat, I think Momoshiki can body 100,000 white zetsus comfortably
@maalikserebryakov Жыл бұрын
Ye thats when I realise this guy can study naruto all he wants but Low IQ will remain Low IQ
@Metal12111 Жыл бұрын
The effectiveness of the army is irrelevant, it only shows that kaguya is scraping at anything for help against momo and kin, effectiveness in a fight is irrelevant. It just shows that kaguya needs help against momo and kin because she’s weaker than them
@andrei-cezarbleaje55193 ай бұрын
Momoshiki is fodder to Kaguya, juubi jins and Isshiki. He's a one trick pony who only has faulty scaling and vague statements to his name. Taijutsu and Majestic Attire did him in. The drug addict needs his meds to compete with a drained Naruto and Sasuke who absolutely folded him in the manga. The animators felt sorry for the one trick pony and made his showing a little better but he still got blitzed and injured by a 12 year old kid with a tree level vanishing rasengan. He can't even see it despite having a rinnegan. The rinnegan is able see chakra and invisible barriers and invisible clones from a parallel world lol. That eye on his forehead is as useful as a Christmas tree ornament.
@tommonym4380 Жыл бұрын
Lately I’ve been thinking about Limiters Code vs Obito. Mainly White Mask, Juubito and DMS are the forms that should be considered. :)
@hertzy9567 Жыл бұрын
Limiters code is right under jigen. Meaning he could hold his own against prime naruto and sasuke ( hed lose ) who massively outscale any obito form. In short code stomps
@GS-gd1nm Жыл бұрын
Code said a massive rasengan is otsutsuki power. White mask mid diffs and juubito no diffs
@CWTempest29 күн бұрын
@@GS-gd1nmwrong
@jackgonahieu4999 Жыл бұрын
7:31 saying keyboard warriors on a anime video feels wrong idk.
@alainlopez9970 Жыл бұрын
The thing about jubi madara is that hes practically featless. He got written off so that kaguya can get introduced. So if you take that madara and put him against adult sasuke then yes hes absolutely getting washed. But lets say he wasn't written off and kishimoto actually gave him feats and time to learn the amps that he actually received like for instance the rinnesharingan. As you said he probably wont be able to use amenominaka because it requires more chakara than even madara has so thats out of the picture. But he did have enough to cast infinite tsukuyomi and the rinnesharingan does allow you to cross through dimensions like kaguya was doing so if hes able to do that then theres no way sasuke is going to send him away to a different dimension. Theres also no way he trapping jubi madara in chibaku tensei and even if he somehow manage to do so he can just escape through the rinnesharingans spacetime ninjutsu. He also has storm release jutsus that are able to move at the speed of light so he can just shoot a bunch of storm release lasers that he used to cut through one of narutos truth seeker orbs to destroy the core of the chibaku tensei and he would never be able to be caught in that jutsu. Also i dont think sasuke has the ap to actually kill madara. We've seen him cut madara in half and madara was able to regrow his entire lower half of his body. Kaguya is stronger than madara but he too also needed to be sealed as he stated he was practically immortal given that he has the ten tails and the god tree and also hashirama cells so his regeneration could be comparable to kaguyas. Also madara does have woodstyle as shown in the anime he was making wood clones and did the jutsu where he can create an entire forest and he also and he did divine deep forest emergance after doing the infinite tsukuyomi. His limbo clones have also been stated to be on the same power level as him and he actually has 5 limbo clones since naruto sealed away one of madaras limbo clones when he was flying away. Given those circumstances i just dont see how sasuke is beating him but this is contrary to the argument because this never happens so hes featless and its never really been a fair debate 🤷♂️
@ProjektTaku Жыл бұрын
kishimoto went way too hard on that ending. Gave madara the rinnegan, then made blind alive madara stronger than edo rinnegan madara, then he gets sage mode, then he gets 1 rinnegan, then he becomes the jubi, then he gets both of his rinnegan, then absorbs the shinju tree (which makes no sense since the jubi is the fusion of kaguya and the shinju and they were already absorbed), then awakens the sharinnegan, and he just gets thrown aside for kaguya, who's even stronger.
@Theta117 Жыл бұрын
It's not a fair debate because you want to jump through like 10 hoops to even make Madara seem good
@alainlopez9970 Жыл бұрын
@Theta117 Right, for the most part Sasuke is at his full potential. I would want madara to be at his full potential as well. Given all the circumstances I mentioned there's just no way Sasuke is killing madara lol
@gameuniverse5973 Жыл бұрын
@@alainlopez9970He weaker than Kaguya there you go he fodder even six path Naruto in the final valley fight would solo three eyed juubidara with boiling release or rasenshuriken barrage which heavily affected Kaguya
@alainlopez9970 Жыл бұрын
@gameuniverse5973 six paths Naruto is only stronger up until he absorbs all the sage chakara in the planet. Before that he isn't stronger than 3 eyed madara but this is about Sasuke individually against 3 eyed madara. Sasuke just doesn't have the ap to actually kill someone with that kind of regeneration. I know that kaguya is stronger but his regeneration is comparable to kaguyas basically.
@Kirabane666 Жыл бұрын
Finally someone has a voice of reason in this subhuman community, im so sick and tired of hearing people compare Madara to Sasuke let alone say that he would beat him, like grow up already.
@abdallamohamedmerghani1678 Жыл бұрын
six path senjutsu is required to fight against the limbo, sasuke doesn't have that and that's why the limbo can destroy him if madara wanted to, sasuke has no way to defeat the limbo too, in fact when naruto and sasuke rushed to rescue sakura, naruto managed to kick the limbo but sasuke was literally slapped in his face, watch that moment in slow motion. also all the momoshiki vs kaguya stuff is extremely taken out of context. 1- kaguya wasn't preparing for the level of power we have seen momoshiki displaying, she was preparing for someone that could possibly be 1000 stronger than kaguya because of the unknown amount of chakra fruits that he might have eaten, remember amado said that otsusuki are always on the search for chakra fruits, she got so strong because of single fruit and she was preparing for someone that might show up with like 55 stronger fruit, but that didn't happen. 2- sasuke said that the incoming otsusuki attack could be greater than kaguya, but we can not take his word for it for a simple reason, and that is the scroll doesn't have any information about how strong they are, the scroll simply has the following information A- the identity of the attacker B- their goa/intention C- how kaguya is preparing against it (white zetsu) so based on the information that were available to sasuke he made a very logical deduction and that was if kaguya needed help to fight someone that means this someone is at least her level and that makes so much sense if we only rule out all the pieces of information we knew later, also this is linked to #1 where I said kaguya preparing help doesn't necessarily mean she was preparing for the level we have seen. 3- it was stated everywhere that the reason behind hokage naruto's strength was kurama which is a fixed amount of power that doesn't grow by training, if naruto by himself hot so much stronger than people like kaguya or rikduou madara then losing kurama shouldn't do jack shit but that wasn't the case, naruto by himself is so much weaker as everyone literally stated (gaara, boruto,sakura,kurama, sasuke and naruto himself), in fact sasuke literally said that what gave naruto a chance against momoshiki was kurama which is a power source that is incomperable to the 10 tails, naruto was never stronger than madara or kaguya 4- cool little thing I found that in naruto storm 4 momshiki boss fight, sasuke literally tells momoshiki that he was even weaker than kaguya was that was after momoshiki said " don't think you can beat be just because you beat kaguya" conclusion 1- sasuke in boeuto is not so much stronger than shippuden, infact that cannot happen 2- momoshiki is not on kaguya's level and the evidence used to argue against that are misunderstood and taken out of context. 3- sasuke has no win cons, he can not deal with madara's immortality he can not deal with him limbo, he can not deal with his super regeneration, on the other hand adult sasuke fell to his knees after he was stabbed by shin using a bunch of razors, any damage of that scale would limit his power 4- sasuke fought isshiki for 3 minutes and started worrying about his chakra, madara on the other hand has 10 tails level of chakra + endless supply from IT. 5- for F sake yes madara can stop sasuke's chibaku tensei by slicing ith with susanoo or shinra tensei the F out of it, but sasuke can't do shit to limbo madara deletes sasuke
@thedevilhimself1481 Жыл бұрын
Cord in bio. Sasuke 1 shots
@spidey90236 ай бұрын
Visit a mental hospital
@BreezyDylan Жыл бұрын
0:32 Six, even that wouldnt be the case because Sasuke can just use the rinnegan to summon the king of hell and be good as new.
@lakithchandra8901 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video man
@gammafrost Жыл бұрын
I think sasuke would win but it’s not as easy as people think. Hagoromo literally states Madara is approaching his level of power. The difference in power between madara with two rinnegans and one is very significant. The guy didn’t even move when he got jumped by naruto, sasuke and sakura. Adult sasuke has good hax but not as much chakra as three eyed madara. I wish we saw a proper fight with 3 eyed madara
@Imre286 Жыл бұрын
No it would be easy
@jinmali Жыл бұрын
Hagoromo is not a big deal 😭 adult sasuke would wash him to. Sasuke hits harder is way faster has better abilities and has delt with people way way beyond madara by this point.
@sptflcrw8583 Жыл бұрын
Bruh
@chrismcc2317 Жыл бұрын
I’m literally in shock that people try to debate madara>sasuke💀💀, sasuke is faster, stronger, better battle iq, and his hax basically counters everything madara can do( almost everything)
@markodujovic-o6c5 ай бұрын
Madara beat the shit out of sasuke
@freshjnew Жыл бұрын
So which prime alive madara are you comparing adult sasuke to? The one that had enough Chakra to wrangle the 9 tails and fight Hashirama for 24 hours or the one with a rinnesharingan? Both honestly shit on sasuke. Sasuke in boruto is nerfed and we only have a half assed feat from the last.
@owensilva9224 Жыл бұрын
sasuke one shot that fodder
@AnshSachan-b8m2 ай бұрын
Bro is on drugs. Blud literally saying alive ems madara is powerful than adult sasuke
@residentevil25 Жыл бұрын
I fw the captions Six
@moshehhubbard756 Жыл бұрын
Full power Sasuke blizts and snatches his soul
@GS-gd1nm Жыл бұрын
Cap
@moshehhubbard756 Жыл бұрын
@@GS-gd1nm How?
@GS-gd1nm Жыл бұрын
@@moshehhubbard756 cos sasuke has less stats than him
@moshehhubbard756 Жыл бұрын
@@GS-gd1nm What you mean by less stats?
@GS-gd1nm Жыл бұрын
@@moshehhubbard756 less strength, reaction time etc
@ladrellhart2063 Жыл бұрын
In terms of comparing characters to one another to see which is stronger, the Naruto/Boruto community is the only anime community that gets ever answer wrong. In this community all logic goes out the window its mostly "this character is the strongest because I like him better."In no other anime community do I see this problem. We actually have people saying Borushiki is way stronger Jigen, it even gets worse we have people saying Urisiki is stronger than Isshiki and this people aren't trolling either they sincerely believe that. I appreciate your videos because this Naruto/Boruto anime community truly needs them.
@Devil-ig7kl Жыл бұрын
It all started with some errors... No offence but kage vs Momoshiki was dumb af! Let's say...... There's a UFC fighter in a critical condition and has 1 hour to live and he has to fight a normal human then what would happen? Who would win? Ofcourse he'd win but who'd be alive? Jigen, Isshiki all had weakness and I'm glad it happened lol unlike Naruto where they made madara op... If you think that Madara is weak or ain't skilled and smart then i don't know what to say.. When he was about to get serious, he got back stabbed...... He was known for holding back. He got hax.... It was stated that kaguya had more chakra but again Kaguya had more chakra than Naruto and Sasuke could ever have combined does that means they are leach in front of her? No! She was stupid, doesn't like fighting and she might have overestimated Momoshiki and others.... There are other things too..... New villians are supposed to be stronger but sometimes they create broken characters..... I swear if they remove kage vs Momoshiki scene then most of the people would be convinced
@ladrellhart2063 Жыл бұрын
@Devil-ig7kl The problem with 90% of the community is that they just go with their favorite character. Here is an example " hmm who's stronger Madara or Isshiki? Well I like Madara more because he used more abilities than Isshiki so Madara the strongest." That's literally their thought process and your going to have a really hard time telling them otherwise. They don't use any real data, they pay no attention to statements that are made in the Manga or data books when it comes to power levels. They did a poll on if Itachi and Madara teamed up against Jigen in Sasuke and Narutos place they would have killed Jigen. They have no clue how insane Sasuke and Naruto were in terms of power at that point in the story. Of course, content creators in this community really have to be on their Ps and Qs so I've only seen 1 content creator who was messing up, but it really wasn't anything too serious. I think I've cracked the code the Boruto/Noruto community have more casuals in it than any other anime community Im some what of a casual too and yet I still never overlook data or use head cannon thats way off the mark just to get my favorite characters over. Six keeps it real, so the people here should always get the right answers, I haven't found anyone in his comments arguing for Madara yet, so that's a good sign.
@Devil-ig7kl Жыл бұрын
@@ladrellhart2063 Man i love Madara but Isshiki outclasses him in everything... The only downside is that he has weak vessel and in boruto.... Power, intelligence means shit because of the ability to absorb ninjutsu.... So all you need is speed, taijutsu and ability to absorb ninjutsu and you're golden! Isshiki's shrinking ability is broken! Imagine if he had regeneration 😂 that's the reason Boruto characters has weakness. Again ln,databooks are bs..... What's the point of having tremendous amount of power? Just to get kicked by weaklings? Man if you remove that kage vs Momoshiki shit then everything will make more sense! Trust me! And honestly it's hard to say who's strongest because one counters another....... Momoshiki's ninjutsu is insane because he absorbs it and fires back at 200%? I don't remember exact amp but what's the point if your opponent can absorb it? Madara got too many hax and regen but unfortunately we haven't seen him going all out.... And don't underestimate limbo!
@akadenanderson3283 Жыл бұрын
People are crazy to think madara is even close to current sasuke. Also I do agree that monoshiki is wayy better in tijutsu than kaguya but remember kaguya was planning to create the army of white zetsus before she planted the chakra tree. And Momoshiki didn't know she planted the tree. So it's clear that none of them knew how strong each other was, even sasuke. Sasuke didn't know when she was creating that army. Either before her great power or after. Before she became power she was weaker than momoshiki, as we saw in the flash back she was practically one shotting warriors. So she was strong just not strong enough to handle momoshiki.
@gammafrost Жыл бұрын
Based on what we’ve seen, kaguya doesn’t even come close in taijutsu. Momoshiki was literally swapping hands with adult naruto and sasuke. If you notice during the kaguya fight, she rarely went on the offensive using close combat
@moshehhubbard756 Жыл бұрын
Current Sasuke loses to Madara though
@thmistrapillay1811 Жыл бұрын
@@moshehhubbard756 no. Adult Sasuke would still dog-walk Madara without Rinnegan. In fact, he may even kill Madara even more brutally since he doesn't have his chakra constantly drained by a Rinnegan that he couldn't deactivate
@moshehhubbard756 Жыл бұрын
@@thmistrapillay1811 Sasuke has no feats saying he will brutally kill him is complete headcanon. You have no idea of what it takes to kill a Juubi Jinchuuriki. Guy destroyed Madara's entire left side including his heart and Madara was just laughing, that's Madara without the God tree and before he stated he was immortal. Sasuke then proceeds to slice Madara in half yet he's smiling later on about it. Sasuke no longer can see Limbo meaning Sasuke can't even fight Madara in close combat. And amaterasu is hopeless seeing that Juubito can sense Sasuke using amaterasu, and react to it and use a truth seeking orb to counter it. Perfect Susanno is wayyy too slow for Madara, Limbo will eventually break through. Madara can easily slow Sasuke down by using catastrophic Chibaku tensei, which had Sasuke annoyed, not the size of how strong it was, so don't try to say "Sasuke is stronger now😭" Sasuke was annoyed about the numbers which Sasuke will never change. And that's with the help of Naruto. Saying current Sasuke is stronger than both teen Sasuke and teen SPSM Naruto combined is a bit of a stretch. Regardless that would give Madara enough time to cast Infinite Tsukiyomi or have Limbo catch him off guard. Madara eliminates Sasuke, so what if he has more chakra since his rinnegan is gone. Madara has 10× more chakra than Sasuke. To make you happy I'll say Madara mid difs Sasuke lol
@ciplk17676 ай бұрын
@@gammafrost kaguya had god vaccum attack which destroyed sasukes perfect susanoo and this attack is taijutsu in databook
@opposedscroll7596 Жыл бұрын
11:46 Neither Naruto nor Sasuke were at full power during this fight. Half of Naruto's chakra was drained by Momoshiki before Sasuke even arrived so Naruto is probably at +-40% chakra at this point counting the portion he used to defend Konoha. In Sasuke's case his use of Amenotejikara to transfer multiple people probably cost him a large chunk of his chakra so we can assume that he had (at most) +-70% chakra
@g_phantom_1252 Жыл бұрын
kid naruto has much more chakra than adult sasuke ... so can kid naruto beat adult sasuke ? lol what chakra idk ; who cares about chakra limit ? when you can use taijutsu ? lol kids ... momoshiki ate some 20 divine trees on that planet when kinshiki appeared out of nowhere with his byakugan lol but still his face was twisted because two weakling kages were going after him ? mainly darui and gaara who said if he can absorb ninjutsu lets use taijutsu and momoshikis face got twisted ; the guy called himself god but he was just fodder lol ; momoshiki + 20 divine tree isn't even kage level lol ; after he absorbed kinsihki his power amplified lol before that he was just fodder and momoshikis body was so weak he couldn't even withstand some wekaling rasengan yet kaguya withstand all tailed beast bomb empowered with six path senjutus madara withstand 8 gates the strongest taijutsu ever we have seen he withstand slicing by sasuke he withstand narutos lava rasen shuriken not just an ordinary rasengan it was shukakus power + six path power of hagoromo so power scaling in boruto is way off ; adult sauske is fodder and kid naruto and kid boruto and jeraia defeated urashiki who suppossedly was kaguya level lol but sasuke was a weakling kid front of hi m ; but kids defeated them plus jeraia never used senjutsu there and there were no two toads ; if there were two toads they would smash poor urasihki by themselevs; so according to your logic sasuke isnt' even jeraia level lol yet you believe that chakra level mattters ; if you are weakling even if you had all shinobis chakra you will get killed or outsmarted lol
@RMZain08 Жыл бұрын
@@g_phantom_1252 kid naruto and boruto defeating urashiki is anime filler
@opposedscroll7596 Жыл бұрын
@@g_phantom_1252Kaguya could not, in fact, handle the Bijuu Rasen Shurikens. She lost control and her body began to split into the weird White Bijuu thing. And keep in mind that the hit came from a weaker Naruto than Adult Naruto.
@opposedscroll7596 Жыл бұрын
Also you're literally taking filler into account.
@CJExtreme98 Жыл бұрын
Yo, a fight analysis on Guy, Naruto, Kakashi, and Bee vs Obito would be pretty dope I’d say
@corterapidoetramontina2904 Жыл бұрын
Are u serius? Never thought i would hear Six saying burrito' Sasuke wins against Juubidara...this is not April Fools, Six...c'mon.
@konoha693 Жыл бұрын
People forget the Juubi Jinchuriki has ninjutsu immune thanks to Yin yang release Sasuke can't injure Madara With ninjutsu (Even indra mode is useless because Indra is ninjutsu and indra arrow too) Taijutsu : Madara with limbo can clap him (Limbo can affected by Sop6 sage jutsu) sasuke doesn't have sage jutsu + Sasuke doesn't have same raw strengh than Might guy Sasuke can't win against Kaguya level threats alone Ln statement ["The idea that there's a being that could threaten even Kaguya . . . and it's going to appear in this land?" Did that mean that the day was coming when the peace they had finally obtained would be disturbed? Was the future people were walking toward now going to be destroyed once more? But Sasuke shook his head no. He wouldn't let that happen. He would protect it himself.] Anyone with a brain can understand that what he meant was he was willing to face those threats which shows his willpower and sense of duty and not that sasuke can solo kaguya. Sasuke > kaguya is debunked and dont bring it up again. In databook is stated Madara get true power from sage of six path with both rineganne without counting rinnesharinganne Madara has Perfect susanoo in his Juubi form it's shown in Naruto storm 4 even Limbo can use it as well (Limbo are able to use all ability than Madara is stated in Databook too sasuke can only see but cannot deal with them it's over of him at this time (Storm 4 is cannon) Madara perfect has same size than Juubi + Limbo perfect susanoo are taller than Sasuke perfect susanoo Sasunoo size of chakra is stated in databook too ( The power of a malevolent god, which dwells only in those seized both of them that's susanoo" . The materialised Chakra takes the shapes god of war
@OchidHaven Жыл бұрын
Thank u finally sb with brain and reading skills. He stated on how he is determined to protect the village. It means he will wholeheartedly fight for the village no matter the threats even if he loses. Now imagine Sasuke struggling with a fucking chicken Dino. Ouhh this already happened
@pakolang Жыл бұрын
Sasuke fanboys only rely on feats. And Madara Jubidara is featless. To understand jubidara's power requires theory. But Sasuke fanboys don't accept the theory. "But kinshiki > kaguya", "Read LN". These are words that must be said. Of course fighting Otsutsuki is a very good feat. But that's not fair, because Madara never met Otsutsuki or fought Otsutsuki.
@ChrisTookFlight Жыл бұрын
Sasuke literally cut Madara in half idiot
@CWTempest5 ай бұрын
Bro sasuke has so6p chakra which means his ninjutsu would affect madara and he has never been shown to to use susanoo while being a jubi and sasuke 50% was keeping up with kin and a less that 50% was keeping up with full power momo🌚madara is fodder in this fight
@CWTempest5 ай бұрын
And storm 4 isn’t cannon maybe some if the move sets
@totomi_ziba Жыл бұрын
My personal problem is that Sasuke's only was of "beating" Madara is teleporting him somewhere he can't escape. He also seems immortal on a physical level considering the damage he took from being cut in half, blown up from Guy, the, Naruto's Lava Rasenshuriken or their attempt to seal him. All this indicates Sasuke's only way of beating Madara is sealing him or teleporting him. Madara on the other hand could try to use some of his Sage Arts which seemed dangerous enough for both Naruto and Sasuke to dodge/teleport. But I also see how Sasuke is "stronger" considering his feats as an adult. I just don't see a way of beating Madara besides the ones above. But pls correct me
@niero4201 Жыл бұрын
Genuine question, how does Madara die? Cause as you said he takes a ton of damage, but he loses to a stab in the back. So I am a little confused on that. On another note though, the first thing my mind goes to is: a) Sasuke is stronger. b) Rinnegan can rip out the souls of weaker opponents. c) a + b = win? Probably plenty other ways for Sasuke to get the win, probably even through pure damage. But this is the most disrespectful way that comes to mind. (Unless someone comes up with the headcannon that somehow having the Rinnegan makes you immune to Rinnegan abilities.)
@XxsilentpersonxX11 Жыл бұрын
Madara isn’t immortal or at least in the sense that he can’t die. At the time in the war arc he had no weaknesses to exploit and he was slighter stronger than naruto and sasuke. I’m pretty sure you he can kill him if you hit him hard enough similar to what guy did and madara said that almost killed him. Without a doubt sasuke as an adult can hit way harder than 8th gate guy did, with that being said sasuke can kill him like that.
@ismetkabir2901 Жыл бұрын
@@XxsilentpersonxX11how can Sasuke hit wayy harder than 8 gates guy?that makes no fuckin sense and on top of that this video doesn't include Madara was not trying his best against Naruto and Sasuke in the war arc, he didn't used his abilities much and it pretty much implies the rinne-sharingan Madara awakened should be different than kaguya's since it was awakened by him and he can use it better than anyone and he should have different a ability, he didn't even use his susanoo (ik it's juubi which is eating him or whatever but I can't see why he can't use it since it implies nobody really needs even eyes to activate susanoo so whatever conditions is needed is still don't think he can't use it), he didn't use much of his rinnegan and the feat one can give is just him having upper hand over Naruto and Sasuke when he was just playing with him and he clearly says " looks like I have to kill u now" when Sasuke resisted infinite-tsukuyomi
@XxsilentpersonxX11 Жыл бұрын
@@ismetkabir2901 we all know madara wasn’t trying his best but if you put into consideration that it’s a known fact that kaguya is stronger than juubi madara and naruto and sasuke defeated her and then momoshiki is stronger than kaguya and jigen being waaay stronger too. How does that not prove that sasuke can’t beat juubi madara that just doesn’t make sense at all. Even with madara not trying against war arc naruto and sasuke which is far weaker than adult sasuke, they wasn’t struggling against madara at all. The most they struggled was when they were trying to figure out his limbo and adjusted quickly to it
@ismetkabir2901 Жыл бұрын
@@XxsilentpersonxX11 wut, Naruto and Sasuke didn't struggle against juubidara?they tried hard at it and Madara didn't give a shit so Naruto and Sasuke was able fight him but if Madara decided to kill this two hell probably kill them no question and how did Naruto and Sasuke beat kaguya they just sealed her away and that's it although it was said that she died becuz of it but then Madara also had the same thing to worry Abt and he almost got sealed away but he substituted himself out and momoshiki being stronger than kaguya also doesn't make whole lot of sense to me either cuz momoshiki literally fought nerfed Sasuke and Naruto and they found a way to beat him like that how does that adult Sasuke beat Madara when he only has that one rinnegan and Madara got two plus six paths senjutsu and hashirama sage mode and also he can potentially use his susanoo since he used obitos Ms while being in juubi mode just think Abt it, kaguya is not afraid of momoshiki and kinshiki, she's afraid of probably isshiki to come back or even shibai otsutsuki. it doesn't make sense to only believe that kaguya was afraid of momoshiki and kinshiki and made an army of white zetsus when she can outclass them both or if that really is the case she was just underestimating herself and being cautious. momoshiki and kinshiki are not the only otsutsuki out there and clearly think isshiki is stronger than kaguya althorn his legs were fed to ten tails by kaguya somehow and there is shibai a literal god of otsutsuki and this is 2000 yrs ago were talking Abt so some things might not be the same if u put that into consideration that shibai>>>> isshiki>kaguya>Madara>Naruto and Sasuke ≥momoshiki than it feels more organic to me I think if juubidara fought kaguya, momoshiki and kinshiki and isshiki then he would have done better than Sasuke that's all I think
@bloster_ant6 ай бұрын
I feel like the easiest way to prove Sasuke beats Madara is this: Momoshiki ≈ Kaguya, fused Momo >> Kaguya, Naruto and Sasuke (roughly 50%) < fused momo, Naruto/Sasuke at 100% >= fused Momo. Even if you’re so hardcore stuck on Madara being at or even above Kaguya’s level, Sasuke has already upscaled over the highest you could possibly argue for Madara
@omnijonn277 Жыл бұрын
Six Imagine if you do a video about Naruto forms multiplier base on how much chakra he potentially has
@ismetkabir2901 Жыл бұрын
dude i dont understand why madara would be defeated being trapped into another dimension when he is immortal and six didn't say anything about if madara can use susanoo since ppl also tend to think sasuke can seal him away with chibaku tensei and also madara AWEKENED his rinne-sharingan he did not have kaguya's since it also implies that each person awekens different types of rinnegan and the rinne-sharingan is a kind of rinnegan just more powerful and it is on the forehead and madara is not slow nor weaker than sasuke, the only time madara was being outsped is wen guy, minato and gaara fought him and madara never got speed blitsed sasuke so he should be reletive to saukes speed atleast and madara got sage mode, six paths senjutsu which also grants him truth seeking orbs,he got rinnegan and rinne-sharingan, hes a jinchuriki so he has a lot of chakra and it should be way more than Sasuke and Sasuke only has a ems and a six tomoe rinnegan and he can beat this juubito it feels weird to think this
@The_Mad_Titan_007 Жыл бұрын
plus to the people bringing up the fact that "now" sasuke can't beat madara since he's nerfed , the last version of madara alive that we saw was when he was incapable of even moving a bit. so both of them will have ended at a power level far lower than their peak
@v.thirteen5504 Жыл бұрын
It’s flat out obvious who wins. (Debatably) Final Valley Sasuke and all that come after absolutely curbstomps any version of Madara.
@dontaehill888 Жыл бұрын
Random Hey Six I love your psychology Videos🔥🔥🔥 can we get one on Naruto I just find it interesting how he deals with the world and situations in his own way
@keenansutherland2776 Жыл бұрын
momoshiki vs kagura sounds like a great video
@Animemaster05 Жыл бұрын
This topic makes me so sad. Madara is my favorite character in Naruto and I want him to win but I know that adult Sasuke with his rinnegan would actually win.
@sixfromtokyo Жыл бұрын
I avoided this topic forever because a while ago I was researching trying to make arguments that Madara would win.
@Animemaster05 Жыл бұрын
@@sixfromtokyo I used to think that 3 eyed Madara would beat Kaguya, Momoshiki, Naruto, Sasuke and Isshiki around 2 years ago and used arguments such as Madara was more experienced than Kaguya or Madara's regeneration would allow him to take a bunch of hits from Isshiki and eventually allow him to win but I later realized that those arguments were not valid and accepted the truth.
@sixfromtokyo Жыл бұрын
@@Animemaster05 we were in the same spot a few years ago then lol
@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl Жыл бұрын
@@Animemaster05 you do realize that isshiki reaction to being cut to half is to almost die. While madara when cut to half was laughing?
@OldFolkz Жыл бұрын
@sixfromtokyo the god tree is a win con. A pretty easy one too
@UnwantedGhost1 Жыл бұрын
Madara is nothing compared to Sasuke without the legit hacks & all Biijus combined when alive at his reincarnations age. Especially in the Boruto series.
@brianlaundrie5787 Жыл бұрын
Of course. And Sasuke is nothing compared to Madara without his Rinnegan/Six Paths Power. We all saw blind Madara run circles around EMS Sasuke, and Madara with one Rinnegan basically killed him (If he didn't get help). Madara didn't have 10 Tails/Six Paths Power at the time either... Anyway, put them both at their prime and Madara IS stronger - 10 Tails Jinchuriki (Not a weak one like Juubito who was missing the 9 AND 8 Tails), 2 Rinnegan (Sasuke only has one), Rinne Sharingan (Most powerful Dojutsu), Immortal (Can only be defeated with the seal that was used on Kaguya which requires TWO people to use), insane Healing/Regeneration capability, IMMENSE amount of Chakra that is near limitless etc. I really don't understand how anyone can say Adult Sasuke is stronger...? He was actually more powerful in his final fight against Naruto but heavily lacked the experience his adult self has.
@brockblevins8822 Жыл бұрын
Madara mid diffs
@spidey90236 ай бұрын
Your mental age is mid
@stevengrant4117 Жыл бұрын
Can you debunk Obito vs Itachi please
@BigTaintHairGaming Жыл бұрын
i can feel swag's blood vessels pop when u talk about Madara LOL