STOP MOUNTING YOUR SUBWOOFER WRONG!

[@takls999]

one of my absalute favorite youtubers in the audio community

[@tyreeisvibin]

Thanks alot bro 💯🙌🙌 this comment means alot to me 🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@denisbasshead7787]

He is very good with sound knowledge cheers brothers

[@soldjahboy]

The right way to mount it depends on your box... if the box is too small, inverting might help. A correctly sized box will sound best with the sub mounted the normal way.

[@tyreeisvibin]

Very correct ✅️

[@monsterrun]

Imagine a ballon filled with air at about 50% pressure. Now shove it down a box and push a big sub on top. That 50% pressured ballon is going to be 80% pressurized and will give you bad air compression. To get back to you at. Right size cabinets makes all the difference.

[@Imfybmafi]

You only do it the right way if it’s a homesubwoofer 😂🔥

[@Vincent-team-magic]

You can smell the voice coil earlier when reverse mount, and the sub cool better but you can hear some mechanical noise sometimes

[@tyreeisvibin]

Yes this is correct ✅️ some more advantages and disadvantages to add on to the list 🙌🙌

[@JustinCarlton-cc2dv]

The correct term is inverted. Reverse would mean backwards. The reason for inverting a sub would be for more air space and motor cooling

[@tyreeisvibin]

This comment shows that you haven't even watched the intro of the video but thanks for the information where I mentioned everything ✊🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@doylesmith8678]

4 of my 6 15"s are inverted.. can't see them anyway, way back in the blow thru. Sure can hear and feel them though. If you build the enclosure right, it doesn't matter.

[@bensonporter1384]

I prefer the normal sub woofer setup it's more simple and clean in my option..inverted sub woofer is great also but i don't like how it looks lol!

[@tyreeisvibin]

Totally get it, everyone has their own preference when it comes to looks! 🙌

[@TrillMurray]

I think inverter looks cool if it’s a good looking driver

[@hotnuns69]

I feel like it depends what the magnet and the basket looks like if they look better than the cone I’m inverting

[@justlooking6898]

With all the millions of differing 'designs' and personal preferences, it is down to what a speaker looks like more than what it sounds like with NO meter to test its levels. Anyone making the change is gonna say, 'Oh, yeah, it sounds great, now, and I haven't looked back'; If it looks like a weapon of mass destruction, its impression is gonna be one of awe and shock. Subs cool just fine, regardless, spider and VC noise add to the sound you hear when inverted and the frontal cone is to be aimed where the sound is GOING to, not the back side of it. Why would subs start being inverted other than in the last 10-15 years? Because manufacturers said 'Hey, if we make 'em look great when inverted, we'll sell more!' Hey, if it works, do it, lol - Likewise, if YOU think it sounds better and louder, then, that's what matters the most. I just know that I'll not be participating in the 'Invertolution', although PlexiGlass may be used extensively for viewing those Bad-Ass magnets & voicecoils in action, lol! I'd better see about that b4 I build...🤗

[@evilinside5984]

@TyreeLoner- There were too many variables with your test. If you want more accurate data, you would 1st need an accurate SPL Meter, then remove your enclosure in the rear with the 2 inverted woofers. Then test each 1 of these enclosures in the back, facing backwards, 1 @ a time. Please make sure that the inverted woofer is wired backwards as well= + wire from amp, needs to go to the inverted woofers -, & the - wire from the amp needs to go to the inverted woofers +. Then for testing the SPL, ✔️ the Db @ 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, 45, 50, 55, 60, 65, 70, 75 , & 80 Hz, holding each test tone for 3 seconds on every test tone (as it takes a few seconds for the Db score to pressurize properly). I would guess that the inverted woofer setup, would score a little higher Db, in the 20 Hz to 45 Hz range, & the regular mounted woofer setup, would score a little higher Db, in the 50 Hz to 80 Hz range!?

[@tyreeisvibin]

Appreciate the advice and detailed info. I'll definitely keep this in mind for future tests 💪💪. I still need a invest in a spl meter tho so I can can the accurate results

[@officiallyisaiah6408]

In my car I use a slightly smaller box for my sundown, so I keep the sub inverted

[@tyreeisvibin]

W 🔥🙌

[@Alejandro-ho1fh]

I only have mine inverted for the look in my 6th order build

[@tyreeisvibin]

W ✊🏽🔥🔥

[@Stevenjustingreenslade]

What's up the invert sub has. More cubic ft air volume because of size of subin box !!!

[@HandApex]

very nice vid. i did some testing myself with my zvx 15. and in the box its in now, its louder at 23hz mounted normally. but with it inverted it was able to go as low as 16hz. mounted normally the drop off was 18hz. but its more of a deeper bass mounted normally bc the box is already a chungus of a box. but when i do get my other 3 zvx subs in im def gonna invert them because i like my subs ass up. gonna get some custom rubbers on the motor too, to make them look more sexy.

[@tyreeisvibin]

Glad you're experimenting and finding what works best for you! 😎🤘 You have some really nice too btw 🔥🔥

[@HandApex]

@@tyreeisvibin ayyy appreciate it. also if you could. think you could make a video testing out my withered rebass? (shameless promo). i just love seeing people test flex out using my infrasonic songs.

[@Rebassed_by_Bass_Enthusiast]

hi, a very helpful video, thanks. If I may ask, is there a chance of you playing any song I edited or my friend's krychu?

[@tyreeisvibin]

I can try

[@akcaikeren]

Hello, how did you get SKAR subwoofers in your country? In my country in Europe SKAR doesn't even allow me on their website and amazon won't sell it to me too.

[@tyreeisvibin]

Hey, okay so basically my country does sell pro audio audio stuff as well so what I do I use a shipping address from Miami and in my country to get my amazon products to get ship in

[@akcaikeren]

@tyreeisvibin Sounds good, and do you have to pay like $200 in international shipping?

[@tyreeisvibin]

It depends on the weight and product your shipping but it's costy

[@nnperformance76]

Someone already said the normal is louder... however its because of compression (baffle like) of the basket... If u want serious bass do research into horns. Watt vs watt way louder but enclosures are bigger...

[@nnperformance76]

Other comments say it changed the internal volume to much? If I'm not missing anything it was a 2db difference.. thats huge for a small displacement difference??? However both will have different fz repone at other fz louder or less loud with the same power... good video

[@tyreeisvibin]

Great suggestion 🙌🙌 but horn enclosures are not my style to go with I'm a more fan of the low bass side and the horn enclosures usually play the higher bass frequency

[@boerkuhjah]

Guess they know what they build. If inverted was better, they build it in the factory like that.

[@RyanBassForLife]

My subwoofers are way louder reverse. Just remember to change the way you wire your positive and negative wires.

[@tyreeisvibin]

Yessirr 🙌🙌

[@BrianWaller-qe7gr]

If you have to invert your subs you have the wrong box.

[@Shawnsteeley]

Must have been a boss amp 🤣🤣🤣

[@tyreeisvibin]

Or maybe low volume?

[@zainrei4917]

"Which is the best" is wrong. But the correct is "which is more accurate" in terms of box volume and port frequency calculation. An inverted sub like what you said does not give more space but more like does not takes up space. Meanwhile a normal mount subwoofer will have inaccurate port frequency "unless" you have already solved the port frequency along with the space taken by the subwoofer body/motor. In terms of loudness. Your test is quite unfair to the inverted sub since your seat is deflecting soundwaves backwards meanwhile the normal mount sub has the seat folded making the db meter "hear" it louder. Anways, nice build 👌🔥💯 those sub and box looks and sounda fire🔥

[@tyreeisvibin]

Thanks for the detailed explanation. I appreciate you taking the time to point out those nuances! 👌🏽🔥

[@AngelTorres-ny6cn]

The box that has the reverse mounted sub should be smaller to compensate for the interior space gained.

[@denisbasshead7787]

That depend of box space and tuning some.times and by the speaker mebrane

[@tyreeisvibin]

Correct ✅️

[@melvinartis1918]

Good video 📹 👍🏼 ✌🏽

[@tyreeisvibin]

Glad you liked it 💪🏽🙏🏽

[@melvinartis1918]

@@tyreeisvibin 🫡

[@atvkid0805]

the normal mounted is louder because it doesn't have the cage / basket blocking it like the inverted one

[@datboidavid7725]

Atleast I know this now

[@tyreeisvibin]

🙌🙌

[@doge3367]

-get real db meter not crappy phone software. -sub case on trunk and all shooting rear these two makes huge different for that test setup what you use

[@tyreeisvibin]

2:33 🙏🏽

[@PrestonWeyand]

I does not matter the only thing you gotta do is reverse the Polaritys

[@AraceaeFanatics]

😂

[@Thatrandomwhiteguy]

Depending on box... woofers & vehicle....

[@YahiaBorsali-s4t]

Skar is the best,. I wanna buy one but It can't be delivered to my country

[@tyreeisvibin]

Dang 🥲 Skar is really a nice budget sub 🔥🔥

[@SG-Cichlids]

Inverting your subs. Increases the air space in the box. Which decreases port area and raises tuning. Don't invert your subs unless the box was designed for it.

[@marcushelweg8929]

Port area does not decrease, however the enclosure volume gets bigger, and in return a lower box tuning, not higher, when you model an enclosure you have to take into account the air volume that it takes up aswell as bracing, Lets say for simplicity that your subwoofer performs best in a closed 26L enclosure, then that means that your woofer needs to have acousticly 26L of air inside the box with the woofer mounted inside.

[@SG-Cichlids]

@marcushelweg8929 i know how it works actually the port area does decrease. Say the box is two cubes net with 16 inches of port area per cube. Tuned to 32 and the port is 34 inches long. Then you invert the sub and now your at 2.5 cubes. The port area is no longer 16 inches per cube and effectively the port length has decreased because the box got larger. Which means higher tuning. Long port lower, short port higher.

[@marcushelweg8929]

@@SG-Cichlids The port itself still remain unchanged, but you have changed the tuning frequency, wich you describe. what you mention is enclosure tuning, and if you want to keep the same enclosure tuning when going to 2.5 cubes, you would have to make the port longer yes. the port RELATIVLY to the enclosure has become smaller, if this is what you mean.

[@SG-Cichlids]

@marcushelweg8929 exactly. The port has remained the same. As box volume goes up port area has to go up. If at 2 cubes your at 16 inches of port area. Then you you invert now at 2.5 port area has decreased to say 15.25 inches per cube. Because the lxhxw of the port remained the same you now have a smaller port that is tuned higher. In your first comment you said it got lower. Which is incorrect.

[@marcushelweg8929]

@@SG-Cichlids alright, go into any simulation software, vituixcad or winisd, import a woofer in the enclosure tool, make a br box and specify the volume of the enclosure aswell as the port, lock the port so it doesnt change, and then change the enclosure volume to be a bit bigger, what happens? the fb (box tuning) lowers, still with the same exact port.

[@monsterrun]

Technically if ypu reverse mount your sub you also need to reverse polarity.

[@kevinreid1697]

Nope, myth... only if sharing a box area with a non inverted sub. Is a polarity change required.

[@slotec]

with my setup inverted sounds better,i think its best to experiment with your gear and see whats best for you.

[@tyreeisvibin]

Agree