STOP Practicing Rudiments With Your Feet!

[@drumtechniqueacademy]

Bass Drum Mastery: bit.ly/2Oy0hwY​

[@chaosinception7982]

Mr.Hipflexxa! Lol! Great video as always! Loved bassdrum mastery! It was very helpful! Thanks for all you do!

[@stinkbud2]

Great video I’m going to sign up soon as I’m back from my holiday 🤘🤘

[@christophercarson7733]

Merry Christmas ⛄ bro

[@willsnellgrove4882]

This is literally the best drum educational channel on KZbin. Thanks to you guys I figured out why I was stuck at a bpm on my hands and feet for years. My technique was awful. But thanks to you guys im practicing proper techniques. Keep up the videos. This shit is a god send.

[@king-manu2758]

Same here. After years of using bad technique I'm learning ankle technique now and hoping I'll finally be able to reach high tempos without getting tired.

[@madasserniemuller9855]

Der beste Lern Kanal auf KZbin, aber für mich wäre es super hilfreich auf deutsch🤣😂🤘🎶🥢🙏

[@DrumGalaxy]

Couldn't help but notice how high those beaters are set at.

[@Nefville]

You also don't need a pair of New balance 574's but they do look cool

[@pietrogirgenti367]

I have the same shoes, but I assure you that they don't make you play faster :P

[@Nefville]

@@pietrogirgenti367 haha definitely. Funny I noticed Nike especially their trainers have a harder rubber on the sole so if you use the swivel technique its like putting tape on your pedals. Kollias wears them, I always wondered if it was for that reason.

[@ivomelnik378]

Rudiment victim.?

[@23ograin53]

Brilliant! Practicing rudiments (or any patterns) on the pedals will help you play complex patterns (obviously) like you would hear in Meshuggah, Lamb of God, Fear Factory, and, many technical bands. But for speed and endurance this lesson is spot on.

[@joemarta8221]

Soooo good!!! It's so strange to see pop/rock drummers who can't play fast double bass try to tell you how to play fast double bass. It's like they are extrapolating from what worked on their hands to their feet which is just not the same thing

[@king-manu2758]

Thomas Lang would maybe be an exception. He can play really fast and he does recommend a double bass training based on rudiments and dynamics just like hand technique. However to play fast singles that's all not really necessary.

[@fahadkalil]

The extreme master

[@drumtechniqueacademy]

🙏

[@davidpardy]

Agree 100% with your advice! I've spent some time on certain drumming forums (and avoided them more often than not due to "opinions") and it's funny how many years it took before there were enough genuinely fast drummers around giving correct advice on building speed. And the reality is, is that like you say it's not bad to play rudiments with your feet (I use the first pages of Stick Control as control, relaxation and power exercises), but if you want to be fast at single strokes, then you have to practice single strokes. Virgil Donati himself says in his book that "Single strokes are the foundation of all double bass drumming, and perhaps the most important and functional stroke in our arsenal. I have devoted several chapters to exploring the many possibilities and applications of the ubiquitous single stroke roll." And this is coming from a drummer I'm sure we're all familiar with in the insane complexity of the stuff he plays!

[@Myriam-nk2fw]

Short and helpful, this man really knows what he's talking about, we love you marthyn

[@jonashellborg8320]

I totally agree with your statement about paradiddles, I’ve done that and indeed, my foot then “refused” to play non stop with either foot, it felt awkward. So it slowed down my single stroke playing, just like you said. Your earlier video about calf vs shin muscle and move heel vs move toes really hit home for me too. From getting foot cramps to now playing both faster and more relaxed. Just subscribed! You got some great content on your channel!

[@MykeLewisMusic]

Literally having the same problem lately. I'm making the change as of this morning. 🤘

[@king-manu2758]

Which one is the calf vs shin video?

[@MakeRomeGreatAgain]

Practicing rudiments with your feet is about achieving full control over the less dominant foot, from there it's helped me immensely, just daily exercises, shit I do exercises laying in my bed right now writing this.

[@TheSentinel909]

Thanks! Just got my double bass looking forward tp trying this

[@danewing4658]

I just wanted to say, thank you for the heel toe video, with John L. I have been trying the double stroke for 2 years with very little progress, as I was using the flat foot technique. I didnt know why I was making no progress. I think this video explained it. So a week or so ago I found that vid, and I decided, in order to play this I must change my approach. I think in about a week I will start with the metronome as I will have the technique comfortable. The 2 or so years of playing flat foot have enabled me to get the motion pretty quick. So that time wasnt wasted. So Thank again, I Love this channel, keep up the good work!!!!

[@drumtechniqueacademy]

🤘

[@chris_d_r_u_m_s]

I didn't know you were from Vienna! That's one of my favorite places in the world.

[@TheSkunk1996]

Thank you sir for your time showing us the proper way of double basing! I cramped my left foot real good but it’s totally worth it!!!

[@ryanmorrison2489]

Always interested in what your perspective is on certain drum techniques! Easy to understand and makes sense most of all! Keep up the great work and thanks for sharing!!!!

[@machezoccola]

Finally someone has spoken about this topic/issue! Thank you Marthyn🤘🏻

[@spiderexile]

You are the best Marthyn!

[@beau5296]

The basketball bouncing anology is great. Like punching two speed bags and tryin to be perfectly in time.

[@Winterfreud666]

How did you know I was procrastinating on my bass drum work out?

[@masakazu3508]

Hello Marthyn! I absolutely love your contents and your double bass mastery helped me to develop good speed on my feet. I used to straggled to pass 200 bpm but now I can play up to 230 bpm. Thank you for that! That’s been said, I also love practicing rudiments with feet. I believe I gained ridiculous amount of control on my feet by doing that. I’m not trying to arguing with you but my goal is to gain speed and control with my feet. Ultimately, I want to have a control on my feet like I do on my hands. So combining your double bass mastery and rudimental exercise gave me the resolute that I want. Anyway, I love your channel and your curriculum. Thanks for the good stuff.

[@HeshO-yi3hh]

I learn this concept as Raw speed and Pattern speed :D

[@liggerz87]

Thank you I got double bass pedal roughly November 2020 or December 2020 I been double pass pedal wrong this hole time least I'll practice the ankle movement you last video about the fast cat I'd say I was a mixture of 1 and 2 and before that I got my drums back after like 16 years

[@davesmith8851]

You have given me a solution to my problem thank you always so inspiring and helpful

[@dylanhiles4421]

Thank you for the videos marthyn! I honestly came here because I needed to get myself motivated to practice and your videos were the first ones I thought of. I'm reworking my whole technique because mid tempo has lost it's way, and my fast tempo (200 bpm and up) isn't at a level where it's stable to control yet.

[@HAJensen19987]

Great videos as usual!

[@drumtechniqueacademy]

🙏🙏

[@azuzastreet9087]

Thank you for posting. Enlightening. God bless you brother.

[@johngavin1448]

Simply amazing.

[@robbochapman9440]

As always, beautiful precision drumming!! However I prefer Dunlop KT 26's as my drumming shoe!

[@Npalmer5150]

Hey Marthyn Thank you for this video . I felt as if you were speaking directly to me lol. I feel like I've struggled for too long now with this problem and can already see improvement from the 2 simple exercises you gave . I know my struggle with this and many other things in life are do to me over thinking things . When I can relax and stay focused I kill it ! Anyways just want you to know you are very appreciated .

[@drumtechniqueacademy]

🤟🙏

[@ObscureMachines]

Great vid. Even with hands speed/endurance for single strokes is its own entity. The only thing that helped me was playing singles a lot and the "stone killer" exercise/warmup. And this was after playing all rudiments+hybrids to fast speeds.

[@Nissardpertugiu]

I think both are good . Rudiments are good for more complex composed patterns. With roofs and stuff . For the fast stuff i think you re right .

[@gutoes]

Saudações do Brasil Mr hip flexaaaaaa! LOL

Awesome content! Thx man!

[@drumtechniqueacademy]

yo da man :-)

[@dmitrydavydov6824]

Thanks for the video and for the course! I'm kinda stuck on the week 7 of Bass Drum Mastery, because at some point I realized I just felt my left shin muscle burning while playing the excercises, which, I believe, isn't something rigit, so I decided to repeat that week again. And a couple of days ago, when I was finally close to moving to the next week, I broke the sping on my pedal. Crap...

[@AliBabas40Ninjas]

So helpful like all your videos!! Thank you 😁🤘🤘

[@swivelken248chan6]

Same, I don’t recommend letting rudiments throw you off on foot technique. You can practice on your hand for right stick control. Auugghh, I hate paradiddles but I still practice them on my hand.

[@fabiaodrums]

Great drummer!!!!! Thanks !!!!!

[@davidperez5089]

Those kicks are identical. Nice to see a metal head with white heads for once! Great info.

[@kevvyd2128]

They're not real heads, they're mesh

[@konstantinbesfamilnyh]

Спасибо вам.

[@FuzzyPicture]

great video! i needed to see this and didn't even know it

[@ingokolb6871]

i like rudiments or switching lead from time to time to improve balance or movement..

[@fbmowner]

My right foot can dribble/juggle/stomp/rage/run.. My left foot can go up and down about twice and its dead haha, years of not practicing properly. Time to get to work ;)

[@mattpalmer3093]

This was a great video! Thank you!

[@dazza3115]

Great Video Marthyn

[@shaunrathbun6649]

Ty...amazing...

[@mpatterson90]

Wonder if I can still play double kicks been 10 years since I last sat behind a kit.

[@francescoscolastini1102]

Grazie 🤘🇮🇹

[@Alexander-lt6es]

Thank you Marthyn. In the video those beaters extend beyond the center of the drumhead, and looks like they almost hit you on the top of your foot. I play without shoes, and sometimes, depending on where the ball of my foot is on the foot board, I will hit myself with it. (very annoying) You must have your pedals dialed in so close to the top of your foot, as well as muscle memory that you don't have that problem? I also find that setting the beaters farther from the head gives me faster/ better response along with medium tension on the spring. Some guys have their beaters 1 inch away from the head and the tension cranked all the way up, I just can't play like that. No power or control. I am using Trick Drum Bigfoot pedals, and have been tweeking the settings ever so slightly for months to get them dialed in. It also looks like you get maximum beater travel, with minimal footboard travel. I will try to see if I could reduce the amount of travel on my footboard and/ or bring it lower to the floor. Again, thank you for all of your wisdom. I am a new drummer, and love playing double bass!!!

[@miked5487]

Is it easier to do this super bouncy ankle technique with 2 bassdrums vs 1 bassdrum (double pedal) also high tight should your drum head be?

[@lasimestariful]

This was an exellent advice. Im just starting to (for most parts withouth a dedicated teacher) and it seemed so logical to use rudiments in the beginning.however, I was wondering that if practicing without drumset with just feet heel DOWN would be different. More like a co-ordination practice and this wouldn't hinder your practice ? Any thoughts on this one? I totally agree with finding the bounce. It is like the Full Stroke with hands.

[@immanuelbrown2094]

I love watching your vids, I myself is a struggling drummer. My problem is when ever I start to perform a single stroke pattern, my legs feel like they’re twitching and my timing becomes off and the beaters are hitting at the same time. What exercises can i do to solve this issue? Thank you for your time!

[@chaosercan]

Can you bring an explanation about beaters’ height and weight? How high should the beaters be? As well as additional tiny balance weights: do we need them / how?

[@coltonkramer2472]

Beaters fully extended helps with control with ankle technique. Marthyn uses beater weights as well. I just use the rubber tama beaters because they’re a fairly heavy beater

[@chaosercan]

@@coltonkramer2472 So heavy beaters also help to control with ankle technique?

[@coltonkramer2472]

@@chaosercan yes especially for slower and mid tempos, and then with stuff over 200 it doesn’t effect it since your still applying pressure from contracting your quads. I noticed with light beaters it’s a lot harder to keep the momentum needed for a clean execution

[@chaosercan]

I use speed cobras with pearl direct drive kit as the pearl you use. I think I couldn't arrange at optimum setting. The motion of your pedal seems more direct. I suspect if I missed something. How do you set springs and angles of beaters and boards?

[@robertredford4332]

thank you, I am full of training my feet

[@TheCokee47]

Just got my new E-kit and my new Tama 910 Speed Cobras are next up! Stoked to finally be able to play double bass.

[@johnmackenzie3246]

Sounds logical thanks! Nevertheless I often use only for warming up your Key Exercise to Advanced Pedal Control in your Bass Drum Mastery course: any recommendation for this?

[@drumtechniqueacademy]

do whatever works best for you 💪

[@robvel4933]

And what about playing single Strokes leading with my left foot? That's gonna help me for reach high speeds or no?

[@simonbustosestrada626]

Nice!!!

[@drumtechniqueacademy]

🙏

[@yamidamedmorenomora9917]

Good video, i lke thid technique, but i have i question.. how can i get a double stroke single pedal with this technique unkle motion? Do you have any video showing how to play double strokes.

[@mads.percussion]

My current frustration is that washing dishes is boring

[@davidpardy]

I do have a question for you, Marthyn. I've been rebuilding my technique from scratch, and currently working at low speeds (120-130). I'm having a lot of trouble being fully relaxed at these tempos, I feel like I have too much muscular engagement and I'm hesitant to move on to higher tempos before addressing it. That being said, I am talking about playing 15 minutes straight of non-stop single strokes, most recently at 127bpm. One of the issues I've been trying to work on is developing power with my left leg (as it lags behind my right) using a sort of whole-leg transfer of energy starting from the top and pulsing the ankle at the end. This is what I've always done for power, but in your demonstration for both flat-foot and heel-up was that your whole leg appears to be more rigid. I do remember working on the flat-foot technique several years ago. Is this something that you feel I should revisit for slower (

[@davidpardy]

Well, I went back and looked through your past videos, and your video on the Flat Foot technique has given me all I need for the technical side of things. And as far as the relaxation side goes, I reduced the spring tension quite a bit and suddenly it's not so difficult!

[@thejontte4394]

I have hard time performing ankle technique since I have used heel toe for over 2 years. I can play single strokes with ankles up to 210bpm and then my feet automatically switch to heel toe and if I switch back to playing with ankles I lose control immediately. Any tips how to fix that?

[@YanickDrums]

Sounds like your body makes it a habbit to go to what its comfortable with. My advise would be you know this happends so focus on it so you know when it happends and change it back. Start at 200bpm and slowly move up and try to go as far as you can without switching back to heel toe. When it does happend slow back down and do it again. I think being aware and letting your body know that you don't want that is really helpful.

[@scottswift8153]

Single stroke is a rudiment, boom! roasted.

[@vitalismunchen5740]

Beaters on Pedal are pretty high,right ;)

[@B1ood1ess]

How do you get your weak foot to learn the even beater swing without spazzing out?

[@adrianmyst]

And what do you think about practicing them heel down? I practice rudiments in feet only with heel down technique and also don't see a point in practicing it heel up.

[@timbaltotal]

Hi Marthyn !!! Are u using the spring tight?

[@jeremiahhamlette9693]

I do heel toe, so dropping my heel is a requirement

[@DRUMADDICT29]

I thought I saw a china cymbal. What brand is it? I have 3 of the Triggera D14. The oldest one works great. The 2nd one started trigger non stop when struck. I ordered another and it does the same thing. They won’t answer my emails about it. Nobody makes them for some reason. I’ve spent hours looking online.

[@timjhnns]

What Pedals are you using?

[@streetcritique3010]

react to pete sandavol maze of torrement drum cam

[@BahtiarAns]

Plis subtitle Indonesia pliss

[@B1ood1ess]

My right foot is flawless but how do you get your left foot to actually be able to do the constant beater swing though? I've spent many practice sessions trying to do it and I feel like I haven't gotten any better. Is there any way to 'build up' to this motion? Or do you just keep trying to do the motion over and over and one day it will 'click'? Right now it feels like beating my head against a brick wall and saying "don't worry one day you'll break through if you just keep trying"

[@YanickDrums]

Sounds like your left foot has alot of catching up to do. Focus on your left foot and play 8 notes, triplets, 16th notes with just your left foot to get it comfortable with moving that much.

[@B1ood1ess]

I've been getting my left foot to catch up for about 7 years but sure why not

[@YanickDrums]

@@B1ood1ess I hope its gonna help you. Good luck with practice and if you need more help let me know.

[@B1ood1ess]

I mean if you have any advice that actually works I'm all ears

[@timjourdanmedia]

ich hab das french grip shirt in wien erhalten... wie komm ich jetzt an das mr. hipflexaar?

[@drumtechniqueacademy]

ja da musst noch warten :-)

[@FlorianPestilenz]

Du hast "Fwench Gwip" falsch geschrieben! ;-D Chapeau für soviel Humor über sich selbst!

[@timjourdanmedia]

@@FlorianPestilenz fuck, 1 job hatt ich 😂

[@ConceptOfNoise]

culture, not violence!

[@scoutsniper6786]

So what are the best kick mallets

[@drumtechniqueacademy]

all comes down to preference

[@scoutsniper6786]

@@drumtechniqueacademy so im still using weights on mine with a medium mallet but i move down the weights after 2 weeks when should i take them off

[@nikrdt3888]

mr.fwench gwip hahahahahaha

[@mcgerry5532]

Is this banes nephew?

[@Mike_Vogelson]

czy jest pan polak ?

[@-Miroslav]

I prefer "uncle technique".

[@cablezilla]

Thomas Lang might disagree with you.

[@drumtechniqueacademy]

...and?

[@matenorth]

Thomas Lang cannot play constant 32nd notes with feet.

[@heavyhowl6365]

wouldn't be a metal drumming comment section without someone name dropping Thomas Lang to start an argument

[@joemarta8221]

Also thomas lang is incredible and clearly an outlier. What worked for him for being an amazing all around session guy may not work for someone who is a hobbyist playing just metal

[@joemarta8221]

Put another way I tried for a decade to get fast double kicks by doing rudiments on my feet via lang videos, or a generic double bass drumming instruction book I got at a music store and got absolutely nowhere. Topped out at 150 and it was never consistent. I did marthyn's method for 4-6 months and broke the plateau

[@lindsaymcpherson4744]

Definitely fast but doesn't sound pretty !!

[@theopinson3851]

What? You never use double pataflaflas with your feet in the middle of a song? Do you even drum? 😜

[@righteousfist175]

Your misleading title worked lol

[@irafair3015]

He talked about not using rudiments. So how was it misleading?