"Stop SNEERING!" - Former Labour Justice Sec Confronts Julia Hartley-Brewer On Slavery Reparations

[@janereid1440]

What planet is this man living on? The argument about reparation for things that happened in the distant past has no relevance in our modern age and is beyond ridiculous.

[@TimmsMJ]

I agree, and likewise regarding the right for people from former colonies to come and live here.

[@STRK3000]

Hmm weird coz Jews have been getting reparations and so have various other groups, I can't quite put my finger on it but what's the difference between Jews and Chinese and Japanese getting reparations as compared to the Africans and Carribbeans, hmm very strange I wonder what the issue could be.

[@Lambchopsalad]

@@STRK3000 What reparations have the Japanese and Chinese been receiving? Last time I checked, African countries get reparations every single year for the past 50+ years....its called the foreign aid budget.

[@cyberleaderandy1]

​@@STRK3000spot the left wing activist who immediately heds in one direction

[@martysamuels]

I want reparations for my ancestors when the Romans invaded.

[@sammyb1651]

Not only do we NOT ask for reparations from Italy, we treasure and preserve cities such as Bath. Not only do we NOT ask for reparations from the Danish, we treasure and preserve cities such as York. Not only do we NOT ask for reparations from France, we treasure and preserve our castles and cathedrals. Britain says NO to victim mentality!

[@jamescollins3647]

We should send a bill to all Africans coutires demanding payment for the cost of ending slavery. The slavery they were perpetrating.

[@reginaldmolehusband4330]

Maybe we should send all their descendents back!

[@christopherbriscoe8665]

Great point.

[@johnough4893]

The French did not build our castles and cathedrals. The Normans (who weren't French) started the castle building craze, but it really only started during the 12th C with the Barons and Bishops during the Stephen/Matilda civil war. And then continued from then on. The cathedral building started in this country at the same time as it started on the continent. The English built our cathedrals, no one else. The term "Norman Cathedral" refers to a "style" of cathedral (called Romanesque, or Anglo-Norman on the continent). It does not mean that the Normans built them. The Norman/Anglo-Saxon style was then superseded by other styles: Early English, Gothic, Perpendicular. York existed long before the Danes. It was called Eoforwic by the Anglo-Saxons, and Eboracum by the Romans. The Britons probably had a name for it as well.

[@Mat-kr1nf]

@@jamescollins3647Also we should get reparations from North Africa, for the Moorish people and Barbary pirates enslaving us, at one stage, most villages on our side of the English channel had been deserted for fear of being taken, the Barbary pirates actually had their headquarters on Lundy! At least we didn’t chop our slaves’ meat and two veg off as a rule, unlike the Barbary pirates and Moors!!

[@mary-roserussell8097]

And in one 10 minute interview by Julia with old Charlie Faulkner, it reveals how our country has been so messed up over te last 30 years. Here is a man who played a very important role in Tony Blair government but never for once had the courage or the principle to actually put himself forward to the British people in an elction to see if they agreed with any of his political views. But because he was a old school mate of Blair.....they both went to a public school called Fettes.....like all good and true Socialists should !....he was awarded important posts in Blairs administrations. And then, when Julia confronts hime with the absolute nonsense of " reparations " for the various Carribean countries that are owed by the U.K and her opinion of this baloney differs from his, what does he do ?....Yep, like all good Lefties he then makes it personal and calls her attitude " sneeering " Particualry liked the end of the interview when he was in a mess about how far back these reparations should be applicable. The Italians to us for the Roman conquest of our islands or maybe the Danes for the Vikings !!!! You cannot make this stuff up and I despair of wehre we are going with this.

[@user-vo5bb3du5d]

you summed up Charlie Faulkner perfectly -one of Tony Blair's mates .

[@dartskipper3170]

And they "shared" accommodation.

[@andylewis7360]

Both members of The Fabian Society, I’ve no doubt. The wolf in sheep’s clothing

[@sg-zd8eb]

World war 3 is where we’re going.

[@nottyash100]

I only pay attention to the History Debunked by Simon WEBB. he has a clear mind and notable scholar. all the other nonsense about reparations is just a way to scrounge money which no one living can actually prove beyond doubt is owed. How far do we go back IE Viking invasions etc

[@Celtictribes]

Just when i thought someone from Labour was talking sense they go & spoil it with reparations payments & Julia is 100% correct it is a grift.

[@joycegibbs5267]

you actually believe what Labour are saying? Wait until they get in and they'll do what they really want to do = destroy this country for good and give it away to the EU & China.

[@pommiebears]

We have paid already. We only stopped paying for ending the slave trade in 2014, through our taxes.

[@thedroneflyingviking1284]

Am I the only one who thinks about 70% of the problems with this country is the overpopulation we've been forced to accept recently

[@nightowl7459]

@Thedroneflyingviking You are definitely not, the majority really know that but the media is just trying to hide that fact.

[@francis88825]

100%👌

[@kallen157]

Let's get deporting before the war comes

[@Midland_Wolf_71]

Quite possibly. The problems you face are down to 13 years of thieving Tories bleeding the country dry for the friends/families/donors. Put your prejudices away, PAY ATTENTION and grow up.. Punch up, NOT down as your problems ALWAYS originate with those “above” you and not those they would point at via their propaganda media, “below” you as they would like you to think.

[@jeffreymilton5829]

Oh dear, not that pathetic old cliche again, "Punch up, not down." Bang another drum, mate, you've worn this one out. @@Midland_Wolf_71

[@ligaff3958]

I think we should all sign a petition to demand an acknowledgment and thank you from the Caribbean islands for our participation in ending slavery 👍🙂🇬🇧

[@thebaron9059]

Along with the huge amount of white lives lost in the act of breaking those chains, and the huge amount of money that this country used to pay off slave owners to set their slaves free. Such a huge amount that the UK only finished paying that debt less than a decade ago!

[@testudohorsfieldii7052]

If I kidnapped you and held you for years against your will and made you clean my house and forced your children to also work for me, and then released you, and actually when I released you you had to for several years had to serve an "apprentiship" , for no pay. After all that should I expect you to thank me after I also received a big payout from the State for releasing you?

[@jamescollins3647]

And Africa.

[@paulap2377]

liggaff3958 I agree a petition to put these people in their place I in no way did any wrong why should I pay?

[@paulap2377]

That jumped up Labour S.... another reason not to vote Labour

[@n0w3lly90]

I find people like Faulkner to be incredibly arrogant and incredibly out of touch with ordinary people. And observe how quickly they resort to sneering and condescension when you disagree with a view they hold

[@forthfarean]

He went to the "Eton" of Scotland, of course he is better than us!

[@n0w3lly90]

@@forthfarean better at trying to make hot air sound convincing, of course! Especially as an ex-lawyer! Nothing else, of course 😂

[@petercosgrove6530]

He is allowed to sneer at someone who pretends to have knowledge which she does not possess. She becomes angry when someone who actually posseses that knowledge has the temerity to educate her. She is not taking her HRT

[@spearmint47]

" Faulkner. "?????. LORD Faulkner if you please. C'mon, his magnificence as an ex Labour party peer, must be respected. How dare you question his opinions,

[@alison155]

Thats what she is saying.. he needs to listen.. well said Julia... and surely coming into England illegally is illegal .... so it's not legal...so it's a crime???

[@JohnJackson-mn4ts]

But as soon as we take them to court to have them deported, some slimey lawyer throws the EHRC at us. I was under the impression that being a sovereign nation meant we could decide our own laws and decide who can come to our country and who is not welcome. Or is this too much to ask from our incompetent government?

[@chriswhitcomb8675]

I’m from a working class family who have never ever had any wealth or owned slaves and I don’t want my taxes to go to people who have never been slaves. Get off your backsides and go out and work for a living like everyone else, the world doesn’t owe you a living, go out and earn it.

[@suecampbell3457]

Brilliant reply 👏 I am of the same status as yourself and, as I have said these are HISTORICAL claims. They should be thanking us for abolishing slavery. Now let's put our time and effort in to abolishing modern-day slavery!

[@chriswhitcomb8675]

@@suecampbell3457 I totally agree with you Sue.

[@clewis4744]

One grandfather was a miner, the other a farm laborer. I didn't go to Oxford or Cambridge. I didn't benefit from slavery. If anything my ancestors were the exploited one. So reparations big no from me. Now as for those families that got reparations for having to give slaves their freedom feel free to give reparations. What is being ignored is modern day slavery. Mostly in Muslim countries. Also ethnic injustice in India, China and Armenia.

[@moo613]

Just because your IQ was low or you weren't hardworking enough to make something of yourself does not negate the argument. Slavery displaced millions of people from their homes against their will. The children born from this had to start from zero while facing prejudice from (what it seems like) the likes of you and your fellow "brilliant reply" commenters below

[@moo613]

@@suecampbell3457 When the industrial revolution comes around and you don't see the point of shipping manpower from thousands of miles away.. That's not abolishing slavery. That's looking after your financial interests

[@hellsbells7271]

No one is owed repartitions for something they never experienced. Why don't these victim playing people go and ask the country who started Slavery for repartitions. How rude is this man, and he hasn't got a bleeding clue.

[@moo613]

Says who? "In Germany, the Federal Republic of Germany paid 80 billion Deutsche Mark (about \$48 billion) in reparations to Jewish survivors of the Holocaust" Survivor by definition = the remainder of a group of people or things.

[@leecourtney1225]

So you do not believe Germany should have been paying reparations up until 2010 for WW2 (the Jewish people were given a whole country ffs) or that the Native American was rightfully entitled to reparations for a genocide that happened centuries ago, or Australia paying reparations to the descendants of Aboriginal genocide? To say that people are still not experiencing the effects of slavery is utterly stupid, and surely a valid question is, why if the previous examples received reparations are the descendants of slavery also not entitled the same? Go to West Africa to see how slavery and colonialism has effected and is still effecting them societies, stripped not only of their people but their resources, gold, diamonds, oil, minerals etc etc. The Roman argument is a strawman fallacy as regardless of timelines, the Roman Empire collapsed in 476AD so they don't even exist, on a global basis you will find that the richest societies mainly in the West were all part of the slave trade, so it cannot be a coincidence, and the wealth they gained from slavery pervades. Reparations are not some leftist scheme of guilt but a discussion about what people are owed. I am not even an adamant supporter or reparations either way, but am a fierce advocate of it being an issue that deserves intelligent discussion not Julia's dismissive arrogance, calling it a grift is gross and massively insulting to those who feel the need for recompense. The question is do we owe others some payback for our success built on their and a portion of the wealth we gained? The answer is nuanced, but the question to anyone with any level of empathy and intelligence entirely valid. It's not some liberal leftist grift, but a question for descendants of slavery to ask and receive attention (surely this is owed as a minimum?)and Julia's opinion is utterly irrelevant and essentially none of her business and feels very much like whitesplaining.

[@GrandDawggy]

I don't know if I fully agree, I'm not pro reparations but a devils advocate could bring up intergenerational wealth/opportunity but personally I believe a fair bit of society don't have intergenerational economic mobility but that doesn't mean I think throw money at them

[@MrPerfect-mo1xr]

you should give up everything your fathers and mothers built and start from zero and I would call it fair

[@hellsbells7271]

@@MrPerfect-mo1xr 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@sharonbroadbent8138]

The African slave trade market was already well established before European countries took advantage of it. They bought slaves, they did not enslave them. Thomas Sowell pointed out, if they had not been bought by European Countries they would still be slaves, just sold to someone else. Which is why the British navy tried to stop ships full of slaves leaving port, when the practice was finally abolished.

[@farmerned6]

West African Squadron patrolled for 60-ish years

[@deja-view1017]

I think it was David Starkey that said we spent more on stopping the slave trade than we ever made on it.

[@johnhopkinson4054]

The reperations debate is toothless it can easily be debunked by anyone with an ounce of history knowledge pertaining to that era in history..Britain paid reperations 200 years ago after the abolition of slavery..I would just like to know if the Caribbean countries asking for reperations have approached the multitude of African countries and former African Kings that enabled slavery on their continent when they actively rounded up vast numbers of fellow African's from weaker tribes to be sold into the slave trade...Have these Caribbean countries even asked how European countries were sold African slaves because they did not enter Africa and just take them at will.

[@joycegibbs5267]

we've been paying via Foreign Aid, I would say ?

[@antonyholditch8849]

He is another reason not to vote Labour,though the Torys are not that great

[@georginadove4748]

Nothing to choose between any of them imo, first qualification for a politician seems to be lying & ignoring questions. Richard Tice of reform uk seems reasonable imo though

[@jamescollins3647]

Two different names for excrement.

[@Drewtheelder]

@@tiger6218 "Not that great" that's being too generous.

[@Josie545]

REFORM PARTY

[@mariopantelli6248]

We have to vote the reform party if we want real change…..👍🏻

[@kevinb9830]

She got him at the end there. Tripping over himself, not being able to answer the clear double standards.

[@barriewatson]

Exactly,, 100%

[@TimmsMJ]

He mumbled, and stuttered several times, it's hard to speak clearly when you know you're lying.

[@mjones4083]

She called out his grift in fact !

[@pauldh62]

Didn't see it that way at all.

[@kevinb9830]

@@pauldh62 Well maybe you can ansswer more clearly than him, then? If we owe reparations for slavery (despite us enacting and enforcing abolition around the world at a massive cost to ourselves and never having slaves in the UK), then why don't the Italians owe us? As just one example of countless examples of slavery.

[@JavaAndroid]

The Carribeans affected are FAR better off now, than they WOULD have been without Great Britain. I want reparations.

[@seamuspadraigsanders431]

Secretly they put sanctions on countries which affects sick children and the world's most vulnerable, do you ever here them bark on about lifting sanctions, no.

[@forthfarean]

There wouldn't be any black people there. They would still be slaves in Africa somewhere.

[@maninst7145]

You are 100% correct Julia! We should give them sweet F.A!!!!!

[@joycegibbs5267]

why is Foreign Aid paid if it's not reparations?

[@maninst7145]

@@joycegibbs5267 quite right. That should stop aswell!!

[@lizziec7495]

I think that man is horribly rude, arrogant and wrong.

[@user-ne6pq8cw9q]

So are all Blair's mates.

[@SmartCookie2022]

That's the privileged Left for you

[@splifsend]

He's also the CEO of the corporation known as The crown (the police force)

[@Celtictribes]

All communists are rude & arrogant.

[@pauldh62]

How and why?

[@liam5382]

If people want to pay reparations let them, but they can do so from their own pocket and not from the tax payer

[@cyberleaderandy1]

They'll never py it themselves but set up charities or get the public to fund it

[@mattmichaela]

No, if they pay it is still money going out of this country and it opens the door to the next lot of chancers who want something for nothing.

[@leigh-mariehamilton3361]

I paid in my taxes the debt to Abolish Slavery. UK tax payers have paid enough. The debt was only cleared in 2013(!)

[@lizelleswanepoel116]

This ol’ King Charles trying to be woke and getting his nose into politics as always. The late Queen will be turning in her grave! Princess Anne has her head screwed on right and should be Queen over Charles.

[@saraandivanevans6881]

Lord Faulkener typical supercillious, pompous peer who thinks, how dare Julia should have the temerity to disagree with him, and that she makes comments that 90% of the population would generally agree with over whether we should pay reparations to Caribbean nations. If there was ever a perfect reason for getting rid of H of L he is a bloody good example.

[@Renegade1127]

Getting rid of H 0f L would let the commons simply rubber-stamp any law they feel like. And that is from somebody who thinks all politicians are assholes.

[@CaptainoftheCs]

A prime example of why the country is in a hole right here.

[@mjones4083]

I feel utter contempt (hatred even ) for white "liberals " - more so perhaps that I do for the contagion of race -grifters that they constantly,appease , enable and affirm .

[@Alexciaevans]

Falconer was a part of the party that directly contributed to all of these issues in the first place and their views on criminality are laughable, just look at the mass sexual child abuse by Pakistani males . Labour will resolve the immigration backlog, they will simply let them stay , I think we all know that .

[@sandrahibbert8982]

Rotherham was going on for years under a Labour Government and the police service but didn’t want to rock the boat about being racist so under age girls were being abused and passed around and the girls blamed …….their parents were ignored it was a total disgrace Maggie Oliver has been a campaigner for Justice for years

[@juliegregory3900]

But worth pointing out that WHEN applications are heard 70% are granted asylum. So around 30% are in hotels who shouldn't be here. Why dont you get angry about that? Demand the tories actually invest in the system to speed up claims. (I appreciate tories dont do investment in public services, quite the opposite) but always a first time eh?

[@joycegibbs5267]

the Tories are doing the same but there will be an apology a day if Labour got in !!

[@juliegregory3900]

@@joycegibbs5267 why are you so pro tory and against Labour? That's a genuine question Joyce. Can you tell me what the tories have done for you these past 13 years? When Labour were in power they invested hugely in our public services can you remember that? Here's a few NHS ; 85k more nurses 32k more doctors 150k less heart disease deaths 50k less cancer deaths inpatient waiting lists down by half a million the highest NHS public approval ratings in its history over 90%. Would you like that again, I think most people would. EDUCATION; 36k more teachers 274k more classroom assistants record levels of literacy and numeracy, funding per pupil doubled, 2200 Childrens Sure Start centres created. Have you got children or grandchildren? Do you agree we all benefit from a healthy and educated population? The tories only ever strip money of our public services. I dont know how old you are but OAPs got £200 heating allowance, free local bus travel off peak, free eye tests, free breast screening for 50 -70 year olds. Million pensioners lifted out of poverty. There's a book called Britainnia Unchained written by Truss, Kwarteng, Raab and Patel etc where they say British workers are the worst idlers in the world and other derogatory things. Knowing that why would you support them? A billionaire was created every other day even during the pandemic and they gave tax breaks to people with million pound pension pots, that's who they help not working people.

[@TheCornishCockney]

And back into the bloated,failed EU too. They’ll finish us off.

[@dwilson2212]

Why on earth do the British have to be held accountable for actions and involvements in slavery when it has been practised over and over by pretty much every empire and nation in history. Very good point made about the Danes and Italians, why are we the villains in the global historical story?

[@doreenellis7439]

America was far worse. It is history, leave it there. Why expect us to pay for something that occurred many years ago, to people who were never there.

[@andylewis7360]

Because Britain needs to be softened up or else the NWO would never work. Hold fast

[@cdrone4066]

As well as the Spanish and Portuguese

[@seamuspadraigsanders431]

Also slavery still exists, they don't give a damn. It is highly prevalent in guess where Irish, English, African Caribbean, European and many other world communities, its estimated around 50 million people worldwide have had some form of slavery or trafficking into sex slavery.

[@stevedawg9588]

How bout their "brothers" who captured them and SOLD them on to slavery in Africa?

[@johncayrab]

Well done Julia.. you stood your ground and are right in your comments

[@davidlee6720]

big mistake challenging Julia - whoever you are - migrants not criminals ? let him house a few of them - probably lives in a mansion. We need some new political parties. I despair of what we have. it is so easy when you are are rich - you can afford to be benevolent then - nothing touches you . I am almost at the end of my tether- At least Julia is a voice of reason. More power to her elbow with these people.

[@ObiePaddles]

How about a thank you to Britain for ending Slavery.

[@johnday6392]

That's a fact, that is an inconvenient truth to people such as this labour loon. The fact about these people is, that they hate our country. It's as simple as that.

[@cyberleaderandy1]

The bbc and msm wont do that and only have one narrative as they support labour and the whole colonialism narrative.

[@Whysoserious2-2-2]

@denisebond1319 * infrastructure* - don’t use words you can not spell.

[@obisan666]

​@denisebond1319 can we cull you for your terrible spelling?

[@charlottedanby2405]

​@Whysoserious2-2-2 you're a petty, insulting control freak!

[@robertfurner1729]

why you should never vote labour no matter how bad tories are

[@stewartwatson3871]

REFORM PARTY 🇬🇧

[@SmartCookie2022]

@@stewartwatson3871 Yes, all current Labour supporters should vote Reform

[@alridd7038]

Vote NONE

[@juliegregory3900]

​@@stewartwatson3871Reform are just tories in a different guise ie publicly schooled millionaire/billionaires hedgefund managers and property magnates etc who will only ever look after their own ie wealthy people like them. Dont be gaslighted by them they couldn't care less about you.....

[@juliegregory3900]

When Labour were last in power they actually invested in our public services, remember that? Here's a few of them: NHS ; 85k more nurses, 32k more doctors 150k less heart disease deaths 50k less cancer deaths inpatient waiting lists down by half a million, the highest NHS public approval ratings in its history over 90% EDUCATION ; 36k more teachers 274k classroom assistants record levels of literacy and numeracy per pupil spending doubled best ever results for 14, 16 and 18 year olds 2200 Sure Start Centres created for children. Do you agree that we all benefit from a healthy and educated population? Many other things too, longest sustained low inflation since the 60s.OAPs £200 heating allowance, free local off peak travel, free eye tests, free breast screening 50 - 70 year olds a million pensioners lifted out of poverty. Many more online. Can you honestly say the tories have delivered anything like this for working people? If so, what? If you want to know what the tories really think of you check out Britannia Unchained written by Truss Kwarteng and Patel etc where they say British workers are the worst idlers in the world and other derogatory things.Why would you support them, they couldn't care less about you.......

[@paulwright9644]

Julia, I agree wholeheartedly, I'm sure you speak for the vast majority of us. Thanks for doing so.

[@GriffosRetroGaming]

That man is absolutely clueless and the fact he probably earns a lot of money in his job is concerning

[@maureensheppard4551]

I'm 100% with you, Julia, on the slavery issue. Interesting how Lord Falconer (Labour ;-) ) couldn't or didn't want to answer, nor even think about your questions on slavery by other Nations/groups of people. "Most modern historians generally agree that slavery continued in Britain into the late 18th century, finally disappearing around 1800.", so 200 years is not too long ago? Many of their ancestors have built themselves very comfortable lives since then. It seems to me to be the ones who just want something for nothing who are demanding reparations now. "Poor me" syndrome? ;-) ... Yes, it really is odd that they only make these demands of the British people.

[@cyberleaderandy1]

Grifters in America and elsewhere holding their hands out for money because rhey aee it as n easy way to riches. Faulkner is an idiot who obviously buys into this bs and no surprise

[@clivet3252]

And there are Blairites who will tell you that the Iraq war was too long ago.

[@forthfarean]

Slavery was not a policy of the state, the slave trade, necessitated by labour conditions in the West Indies was almost totally private companies. The English state ended slavery in the 11th century.

[@juliacarr5039]

Let lord fanny and his ilk pay the money if they want to salve their virtuous shame! I'm sick of these pompous halfwits who want us to pay but never put their hands in their pockets!

[@lynncuthbert2307]

Exactly. We didn't benefit they did. Cheap labour toffs.

[@maureensheppard4551]

I agree with the sentiment, but the trouble is they won't stop there. If they get what they demand, they'll move on to demanding something else. That is where Labour completely fail the country.

[@DavidJohnson-yq4nz]

Lord fanny indeed

[@andrewburman9469]

I love Julia,s response to reparations.

[@ciaranmarsh255]

She’s deluded

[@fordcosmic319]

As regards slavery, nobody alive today participated in the slave trade and nobody alive today was a victim of the slave trade. The idea that people who've done nothing wrong should pay reparations to people who weren't harmed is simply mad!!

[@MrPerfect-mo1xr]

thats why you should give up everything that your father and father's father built and start from zero. all the knowledge and technology and infrastuture built should not be used by yourself because you personally did not build it. Only then will your argument make sense

[@TheBluePuffin]

Keep sneering, and use whatever language and tone you want. I take offence with Lord Falconer's patronising tone.

[@lynncuthbert2307]

He's the problem not the Solution. We are neck deep with incompetents. We could all do a better job and they know we could. Insulting us is proof. . They are in bed with the CCP.

[@Electriclentilman]

Lord know nothing.. what a Wally ! People like him are the problem.

[@splifsend]

He's also the CEO of the corporation known as The crown (the police force)

[@rosemariesmith349]

This man is why I country is in a mess

[@DanneBrogen3]

Typically, when you lose in an argument and that against a talented and well-read woman like Julia, Faulkner goes to personal attacks instead! Julia crushed him completely and hence the personal attack from Faulkner on her about her tone and language! It was a legitimate question Julia asked about from which century slavery should apply and if the countries in Africa that sold slaves to other western countries should pay compensation! Julia, I thoroughly enjoyed it! ❤❤❤

[@cherrytreegoats3409]

Im English, I lived and worked in India for a year. The Biggest consensus of opinion I heard from the Indians while I was there was the biggest mistake India made was kicking the British out.

[@supersai4198]

Stockholm syndrome

[@Josie545]

Yes I saw a program where an Indian was thankful for what the British had done for his country. He said without the British we would not be as modern and advanced as we are now.

[@pauldh62]

@@Josie545 and look at the price they paid. You will always find people from the commonwealth who will talk well of the days of empire. Divide and rule was the maxim and it worked until the Second World War made us so skint, we couldn't afford our overheads and had to shut up shop.

[@nottyash100]

Glad we left, because their next door neighbor is even worse than the Indian situation.

[@stephansyme2125]

Likewise

[@The01t]

Having the Labour party in charge is like having a mother who invites all her drug dealer/user buddies over every night. Tories not much better. Government change desperately needed.

[@Kit-yv7ob]

"Not much better"? The country is falling to pieces under the tories you div.

[@rosemarywoolley8394]

​@@Kit-yv7obAbuse does not help put your case across. We know all the main parties are rubbish but we also know how scary it would be to have Labour in charge. Have you seen what's on their front bench!

[@millwallholdings]

@@Kit-yv7ob And if Labour scum got in the would finish the country off NEVER vote Liebore

[@dhalsim-1]

Doesn't matter which one gets in. The same agendas will continue.

[@rosemarywoolley8394]

@@dhalsim-1 So vote reform . What is there to lose. It just might be what we need and at least you would have tried.

[@markevans1730]

Julia, you just speak so much common sense, amazing lady..❤

[@markhardy7600]

I think her tone was just fine.

[@andymoss2490]

Barbery slavers raided South West England and southern Ireland as late as the eighteenth century .When do's M'lord think this time cut off should be .

[@dennis65]

Shush

[@RayM53]

Regarding the escapee from Wandsworth, every time I've driven a van into a prison, the underside of the vehicle is checked with a mirror on a broomhandle both inwards and outwards. Somebody didn't do their job. Where is the mystery?

[@trulyexorcise2918]

I strongly object to that man wasting oxygen .

[@peteryyz43]

I'll feel nothing but indignation and condemnation for the instigation and formation of reparation implementation from our nation.

[@thehairygolfer]

I agree. Anybody today who has had a slave should pay money to that slave. Alas I think all the people who had them and the slaves themselves are long gone. We don't owe you a penny for something we haven't done to people who have never had it done to them.

[@user-ne6pq8cw9q]

This Conservative government might be useless but a Labour government will finish this country off.

[@Fabbydabby1]

And how’s that?

[@Celtictribes]

​@@Fabbydabby1Just use your imagination & you'll get there in the end.😊

[@Fabbydabby1]

@@Celtictribes just see if I’m getting this right. NHS waiting lists over 7.5 million Schools crumbling Water pollution More food banks than McDonald’s Rail services very poor Prisoners escaping Cuts to disability services in schools All after 13 years of conservative government. BUT STOP THE BOATS

[@allanarnold3619]

Vote reform

[@Celtictribes]

@@allanarnold3619 No thanks Richard Tice is one of THEM !

[@zeusuk100]

So the Romans making slaves of British people was too long ago according to him, how about the Barbary Coast Pirates (North Africans) that used to capture slaves across Europe and Southern England between the 16th and 18th centuries? That was going on not long before transatlantic slave trade (where Africans were the victims, after being sold to European slavers by their fellow Africans) was starting to get going. Or are White Europeans the wrong kind of victims? I used to think Lawyers were intelligent.

[@leebryantravels]

He actually decided on a cut off point to suite his argument 😂🙈

[@mrnobodieswildcampingadventure]

A grift is what it most certainly is! What we should do in the U.K. is make sure, no one in the present or future, is treated like a slave and those that do commit any form of slavery in law within the U.K. be dealt with the most severe prison sentences! That is how we show our respect for those in the past historically for any act of slavery in the past! But those who want to race bait and grift will not agree with my statement!

[@Marv9590]

Did we not stop slavery and went into great debt over it?

[@richardmabe4186]

You're right. And also over 60 years patrolling the Atlantic some 17,000 sailors died, killed in action or from the same diseases as the slaves they freed, including fever, dysentery, yellow fever and malaria. This represented one sailor’s life lost for every nine slaves freed.

[@pauldh62]

First I heard that we went into debt over it. My understanding is that economics conveniently married with ethics to abolish it. There are clear and tangible gains made from slavery and our imperial past that have benefitted individuals and the nation. Nevertheless there is an equally compelling argument that we know that slavery was endemic in West Africa, at the time, much as it was in europe during antiquity. The British, Dutch, Spanish and Portugeuese encouraged tribes in this region to fight each other, take prisoners who could be sold to european traders as slaves, and fomented this to an industrial scale. Before this and indeed for some time afterwards Arab slavers were also active in the continent and elsewhere, making raids as far north as Cornwall.

[@TheCornishCockney]

40% of our GDP to enforce it over decades. Sick of these bleating troublemakers wanting money. And if this farce ever happens,WHO decides where it goes and to whom? Just hand out bags of cash to passers by on the streets in Kingston and apologise for the trauma we caused them? It’s utterly ridiculous and Julia is spot on,it IS a grift.

[@richardmabe4186]

Please elaborate on the clear and tangible gains! Regardless of influencing factors it was still remarkable Britain took the stand against slavery it did.@@pauldh62

[@forthfarean]

See my post above . It cost almost 4 trillion pounds in today's money. We had to borrow it. Finished paying it back this century.

[@gerrymills3332]

Keep on sneering Julia I agree with you whole heartedly♡♡

[@mattleyland194]

I think I’ve read somewhere lately that Britain paid out money to Caribbean slaves when we abolished slavery. If not when do we get our money from North African countries for the Barbary slave trade. Also as Julia said why doesn’t the Caribbean islands ask African countries for their part in the slave trade. When will this madness ever end.

[@joycegibbs5267]

because they know the Royal Family can't fight back without looking racist. Harry and his wife will love this !!

[@tonyfincham6126]

I feel more sorry for the men that were pressed ganged , put on ships ,flogged .keel hauled.feed rotten meat & then expected to fight for King & Country.

[@TimmsMJ]

And the little children and women sent down the mines, living in horrendous conditions and in darkness all the time.....and in the factories....etc, etc, etc. I'm still waiting for my white privilege.

[@jimwatson8199]

Yes it is difficult to understand why we keep being accused of having slaves I dont think the ordinary brit had any slaves it was only the ruling elite

[@crispyduck1706]

I wonder if the African leaders who sold them will be chipping in too for the reparations

[@BrianFairlamb]

Oh FFS stop saying lessons will be learned they NEVER are..

[@col1664]

Sorry, mistakes were made, lessons will be learned and they won't make the same mistakes again, THEY'LL JUST MAKE DIFFERENT ONES NEXT TIME!

[@andrewdudson7750]

I’ve never owned a slave and none of my family or relatives have ever owned a slave, they can sling their hooks

[@MrPerfect-mo1xr]

you should also not use anything that was built before you was born. go to an island and start over by yourself using only what you personally have built from scratch

[@AvaT42]

Haha. He cannot answer the cut off point. I do not like his arrogant attitude, he gets mad at Julia because she does not agree with him. NO, the RF or UK should not pay any kind pf reperations for slavery. If that happens, then Britain should be paid reperations also from the Barbary Pirates of Berbers, Arabs and other Muslims involved in the white slave trade!

[@deborahking914]

will countries who experienced slavery being abolished be offering Britain/ish reparations for Britain's loss of life and financial costs for its antislavery stance? Checking documentary evidence about this could be an enlightening and informative experience

[@obisan666]

You are pretty thick aren't you? We were also part of thr slave trade and benefited from it. When we couldn't justify it anymore we paid the slaveowners here in England for their loss of ending slavery then stopped others.

[@testudohorsfieldii7052]

Maybe you should do a bit of research into the difference between the abolition of the slave trade and the abolition of slavery as an institution. Maybe then you will stop talking nonsense?

[@TheCornishCockney]

Over 2,000 British sailors lost their lives enforcing anti-slavery. Why don’t the race card hustlers ever show gratitude for that?

[@obisan666]

@@TheCornishCockney and 10s of thousands of women and children were raped and murdered by British plantation owners... what is your point?

[@simonjones2240]

So find the guilty plantation owners and claim reparations from them. Why should I who have never owned or benefit from slavery pay reparations to someone who has never suffered or experienced slavery?

[@onetech3984]

secure prison! we have a thousand criminals crossing the English channel every day!!!

[@jamesrobert4106]

Build turrets, load and fire.

[@carlowingfield7743]

You hold the people responsible not their relatives generations later .

[@andrewhartley3]

The are in prison because they have broken the law. Labour justice secretary. It is people like him that have got us where we are today.

[@lukec1146]

What about the Barbary and Ottoman slave trades which were not so long ago and enslaved British people? What about reparations for Japanese enslaving British POWs? What about Irish enslaved in the Caribbean by the British?

[@Hereford1642]

Not just Irish. When Cromwell defeated the royalists at Preston :- those among the prisoners who had served voluntarily were bound for servile labour in the New World, and when there was no more demand there, for service in the Republic of Venice.

[@stevedawg9588]

Us Brits must be owed trillions from the collection who have enslaved us in the past, should i order my Lamborghini now?

[@BrianFairlamb]

No not putting tax up to pay, tell Rishi to stop giving BILLIONS away to the likes of India.....who have their own space program he just gave 1.6 billion for climate policy's we have the highest tax burden for 70 years...

[@aaronjamesmoore757]

the likes of India, lol, dishy is Indian, they are taking their wealth back, they are not even asking our permission for reparations.

[@jonathanharrison8713]

We stopped gifting them 2yrs ago

[@francis88825]

100%👌

[@donaldellis3609]

​@jonathanharrison8713 sure about that.!

[@dennis65]

He is gonna return the 45 trillion somehow 😂

[@Flapsupnolights]

The reputations argument is a complete grift. I actually agree with Julia re this.

[@davecooper94]

And this from the former Labour Justice Sec, apparently he's a highly educated man. God help us all !!!!!!

[@Boudicca165]

Don't be too impressed. He's obviously been educated far beyond his actual intelligence.

[@rogerwilson6367]

They are flying a pride flag so I have complete faith in the prison service. At least they are getting their priorities right.

[@deltapafox3103]

Pleased someone else noticed that - - and that could also explain the source of the problem.

[@rogeralsop3479]

I've noticed that at Pentonville (which is just down the road).

[@cyberleaderandy1]

Jesus, im amazed they didn't have it over the British flag. Civil service activism for sure.

[@stevedawg9588]

ITS NOT a flag, its a symbol and SHOULD NOT be flying on ANY Government building.

[@TheCornishCockney]

I sincerely hope you are being sarcastic.

[@andrewpillinger7912]

The amount of taxpayers cash thrown down the drain by this government is massive and if this were stopped we would be able to build all the prisons that we need and much more besides.

[@Celtictribes]

If you really want to see billions of pounds wasted vote Labour next year.😊

[@Lionboy2930]

Like Labour did, spending millions on an illegal war!!

[@jimmystokoe6917]

God help us if this lot get in again

[@SmartCookie2022]

I don't have a problem with Charlie Boy and his Royal family paying reparations for slavery, so long as it isn't his ensalved subjects that end up footing the bill. Also, Lord Falconer, Baron Falconer of Thoroton and former flat mate of Tony Blair, needs to have his hereditary thoroughly checked to see whether he should pay millions of Pounds in reparations for slavery too.

[@cyberleaderandy1]

Bet you he has way for fingers in that pie than anyone hes lecturing too

[@jack1d1XB]

If, the Taxpayers money us gonna foot the bill, then she can sneer all she likes, and he's got no right to cajole her whatsoever is it coming out of his wealthy coffers, nah, don't think so! Besides which, this whole Reparations malarkey is utter rubbish as it's not modern citizens that deserve money but the sadly, not alive people who were enslaved! Plus it's dam high time that their own ancestors who also enslaved should be looked into, like the old saying goes ( whoever smelt it, also dealt it )no one can say that their own race were innocent! P.S, You touch my money 💰 and trust me, YOU gonna be paying Reparations TO ME!!!!!🤬

[@Grenbestyie]

not only the fact every other empire has done it BUT we were the ONLY one to have attempted to stop it! (unfortunately, slavery continues today but none of these grifters care about that).

[@mickreaddin4979]

Go brush up on your history chummy! Is a serial killer deemed to be good after vowing to stop serial killing, and AFTER he/she has killed dozens of people?

[@mrschapman632]

The left have collectively gone bonkers

[@mickreaddin4979]

Why?

[@hardcorecwtchers8000]

What about reparations for coal mining families in this country?

[@Bacon4Rashers]

They were treated like dirt, go to any of the old ex coal mining villages and the sons and daughters of the coal miners who were screwed over are either druggies or alcoholics because the parents lives were destroyed by Thatcher.

[@christinecraig7473]

Men, women and children who worked to create the wealth of the landowners. The average age of death was 30. The church yard where I live are lines of graves of those that died through the ramifications of such.

[@sandramilligan2200]

Julia……best interview EVER……..OMG…..that poor man is a fool…..😂😂😂

[@canopus101]

Julia Hartley Brewer is correct to sneer. It is a con for people to claim historic reparations.

[@BC-se7vl]

How about drawing up a ledger showing the cost to Britain (in lives as well as money) of maintaining a large naval force for about 50 years after the abolition of slavery to intercept ships attempting to continue the trans-Atlantic slave trade. Add to that the huge annual dollops of international aid we have been bunging to the Carribeans and others for a century or so. Then ask them to tell us about the "reparations" we owe them! Remind them also that British and European participation in the trans-Atlantic slave trade began with trading on the beaches of West Africa for caged black prisoners captured by their African neighbours. Is anyone demanding reparations from them? If we give an inch on this issue we will be confirmed as the softest touch in history.

[@kevintravis5123]

the best part was julias sneering , it sums up what should be done about 200 year old slavery

[@Jezza_One]

Let them eat cake.

[@Freddyp6]

I want money from vikings

[@maxpaws3977]

Good luck with that. I think Sweden today most popular boy name is Muhammad.

[@saffaboet1100]

JHB rocks!!!!! Thank you for asking the real questions. God Bless you and your Family ✝️💪👊

[@sullivan912]

Are countries in the Arabian peninsula going to pay reparations for the far greater number of slaves they took from East Africa? The only reason why you can't see their descendants is because the men were "neutered" (YT would probably censor the correct term) when they were snatched.

[@jonathanharrison8713]

I do not agree with reparation from something that happened 300yrs ago. It was terrible and unforgiveable and British people are sorry but no payments

[@dominiclane8538]

Why should I be sorry for so etching I had nothing to do with . No mate I'm not sorry thank you very much

[@SO-12]

We paid the equivalent of £300bn for the slave owners across the British empire to release the slave! What about the white slaves from Europe that was sent to North Africa during the Ottoman Empire? Or the British that were slaves in Britain? They never get a mention! I’m sick of hearing about it. Why should we pay people for slavery when they were never slaves and we never owned slaves!!

[@dennis65]

​@@nonono4347Return the money or suffer my curse 😂

[@rosegregory5016]

We are being asked to pay yet nobody else is yest most countries were involved in slavery including the African nations themselves , we abolished slavery here & look where it has got us. People think they are owed from us for what? What did we do to them that nobody else did, as Julia says it’s just grifters

[@derekbaillie4035]

Erm, what have I to be sorry for?

[@rohinipatel3037]

In this countries prisoners are given very luxurious life instead of proper harsh punishments for their criminal offences.

[@dennis65]

Guillotine is best but then again hUmAn rIgHts

[@cyberleaderandy1]

Pride flag t the prison anyone? Probably free condoms for gay relationships

[@seanlindsay7610]

we have already apolagised and paid reparations along time ago, seems weird that the country that actually outlawed slavery is asked yet again to do this all over again. She is right this is just a way for those countries to get free money. Also why is our country still the place that most imigrants still want to come to if we were so bad in the past.

[@jonathanbender4691]

JHB is brilliant and speaks complete sense.

[@tombinkley2688]

It is a grift, money for nothing. Leave what is in the past, in the past. He lives in a bubble he has no practical idea.

[@thinkingoutloud7425]

Watching an arrogant man put down a vocal woman..nothing new under the sun!

[@SmartCookie2022]

The Labour Party don't like women in authority, hence why they've never had a female leader.

[@joebloggs-st8gn]

The best way to deal with it is to say NO. Why can't these old boys just retire and go to sleep.

[@154_madison]

What about black nations who sold their families into slavery? What about reparation for myself and my family from the Japanese for my uncle dying in a prisoner of war camp along with his whole platoon? People today claiming reparation are money hungry grifters imho. Why don’t black communities do something about female genital mutilation in young girls as young as five, still happening in the 21st century and if I know about it, so do they. 😡 How about finding a way to help oppressed women and girls in Afghanistan; forced marriages; honour killings. How about all people try to stop knife crime; drug crime; gun crime. Why don’t we focus on us trying to make things better in the here and now and stop this divisive rhetoric perpetuated by a vocal minority. We cannot change the past. We can learn from it and change the future but not by dividing people according to skin tone! 😡 Actually people highlighting physical differences is divisive and often racist, black on white and many of us are actually mixed race in the UK. We are all the same race, the human race, it is time to start with common humanity. As MLK said: I want my children to be judged by the content of their character not by the colour of their skin. That works across the board. Stop it people.

[@dustybin552]

When you build your house on a deck of cards it's gonna fall down

[@andyquelch5754]

Perfect example of what we can expect from a Labour Govt on the subjects of illegal immigration and reparations.

[@Vince_Paul]

He was and is part of the problem. It was labour that changed the law, probably on advice from people like him. Changed the law on deportation when convicted to over a year sentence has to be served, instead of any sentence straight deportation after serving it. Then the change to only serving half the sentence given by a judge. Instead of serving the full sentence. Because Labour didn’t want to build more prisons. Then let’s not forget bring in private companies to run the prisons all under labour. Is all down to clowns like him. It’s clear he doesn’t give a dam about the general public, an cares more about criminals and illegal immigrants and foreigners in the uk.

[@rosemarywalker924]

But who would get the money BLM which has squandered millions on select few, buying mansions ,cars, and security all keep within the family . if The king, wants too but not in my name,

[@forthfarean]

This man is the embodiment of what is wrong with the governance of our country. Too many of the political class are very comfortable, smug individuals.

[@josimpson7999]

Lord Falconer saying coming here illegally is not illegal….🤣😂🤣 As the former Justice Secretary, does that not prove why our immigration system is in the bloody mess that it is?

[@nheather]

Tesco has a better security system - if I try to leave the store with some salmon fillets without paying for them, the alarm goes off when I approach the exit.

[@mervynchambers4448]

It even goes of when you have paid for it

[@joanne4850]

​@@mervynchambers4448😂

[@tomashton1562]

I disagree I dnt want to pay more to lock up prisoners stop giving them the all the goodies and just the basics

[@tomwaters5359]

Why award them with the basics they come here illegally there own smugglers come with them to claim asylum so they can get them working on land over here what a soft country absolute deserve what's coming if none of yall stand up soon

[@tomashton1562]

@@tomwaters5359 I'm not on about illegal migrants they should just be sent home or back to France I was just taking about the state of the prisons in general lol

[@martinp8174]

Some people deserve to be sneered at !!

[@trevorhoward7682]

Falconer mentioned a backlog in processing asylum seekers. He didn't mention his roommate St Tony of Sedgefield and his open door immigration policy.

[@redredlulu1]

Totally agree, His policy was and still is the greatest threat to the UK.

[@olgyone1195]

Should the german nation then pay reparation to the jewish community for the much more recent atrocities carried out

[@georgemorrison9280]

Lord Falconer is a close friend of Tony Blair …..we must not ever forget that .

[@peterlewis7228]

Labour justice secretary needs to pay me reparations for his incomitance in my dealings with him and other people when he was taking tax payers money. Well done Julia.