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Black Mountain Honey

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Don't Wait For The Bees - Act Now To Stop Bees From Swarming...
How to Prevent Bees Swarming - How to Improve Your Honey Yield - Demaree Vertical Split
I want to know how to stop my bees swarming? It's an age old beekeepers question.
How to stop bees swarming is one of the biggest mysteries in beekeeping. There is no fool proof method to stop bees swarming but a Demaree vertical split helps to delay swarming preparations and also helps to maximise honey production and produce a bumper honey crop.
In this video I show you how I complete a preemptive demaree vertical split. I dont wait for signs of swarming and complete this preventative swarm manipulation on a strong colony.
By raising the brood area to the top of the colony and replacing the brood nest with foundation, gives the queen additional space to lay. This creates a sense of space for the queen which delays swarm preparations but also gives a longer emergence of new bees which bolsters numbers for when you need them in the season.
How to maximise honey crop AND how to stop the bees swarming? This method does seem to good to be true, but on a strong flow, this method is proven by bee farmers in the UK to really help with colony management and brings out some of the best honey crops in the UK.
Welcome to this in-depth tutorial on how to perform a Demaree split. A Demaree split is a type of hive management technique that involves dividing a beehive into two separate boxes, with the intention of reducing swarming and increasing honey production.
In this video, we will guide you through the step-by-step process of performing a Demaree split. We will start by explaining the benefits of this technique, including how it can help you manage your hive more effectively. We'll also go over the tools and equipment you'll need to perform the split.
Next, we'll show you how to prepare your hive for the Demaree split, including how to locate the queen bee, select the appropriate brood box, and redistribute the frames. We'll also demonstrate how to add a new brood box and how to move frames from the old box to the new box.
We'll cover the different options for queen management during the split, including how to manage the old queen and how to introduce a new queen to the new box. We'll also discuss how to monitor and care for the new split hives, including how to feed the bees and check for brood development.
This video is perfect for intermediate to advanced beekeepers who want to learn more about hive management techniques. With our detailed instructions and practical advice, you'll be able to successfully perform a Demaree split and help your hive thrive. So, join us and let's get started!
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@BlackMountainHoney
@BlackMountainHoney 3 ай бұрын
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@mruppity64
@mruppity64 3 жыл бұрын
OMG - I tried this, as per your instructions - though the little buggers did pull a 2nd set of queen cells, 5 days after the 1st 5 days. Just been in to check the colony - a top brood box of 11 frames full of honey, about 70% are capped - it weights approx 50-60lbs - will use this for winter feeding, the other 5 supers have about 70-80lbs of honey in total. The colony is massive, the queen seems to have gone of the lay as they stuff every available cell full of honey. I'm only a hobbyist - I don't have the resources to deal with this much honey.... LOL. Thank you for explaining this
@MrChristopherharmon
@MrChristopherharmon 3 жыл бұрын
Sir, the steps you have provided have made my life significantly easier considering I am a 2nd-year beekeeper learning off of youtube.
@just_alex
@just_alex Жыл бұрын
Definitely gunna try this next season. This year I've been splitting each time they want to swarm which seems to just weaken the colonies. Thanks for the great tutorial, love seeing the whole process from beginning to end!
@BlackMountainHoney
@BlackMountainHoney Жыл бұрын
Cheers Alex. Its a real game changer! Especially if you do it before they try to swarm. Definitely give it a go. Ill be keen to see how you get on with it and no doubt the video will be fantastic to watch as always :)
@simbobcrafts4843
@simbobcrafts4843 11 ай бұрын
Splitting is good if you want to multiply your colonies. This technique is great to limit your number of colonies whilst also keeping strong colonies with a good crop.
@damirdudas2842
@damirdudas2842 7 ай бұрын
3 months into my new adventure as a new bee keeper my colony took me by surprise! After watching you explaining steps that are easy to follow 7 days after the demare manipulation 🐝 have boosted honey production. New brood box is all drawn out and Quinn is laying as well as few frames filled up with honey. I added new super hopefully it’s not too much for them ! Thank you for sharing your experiences !
@1980wilky
@1980wilky 2 жыл бұрын
For a newbie bee keeper, Laurence's videos have been fantastic!. Helped me from day 1 of receiving my first nuc and I'm still only 18 month into my bee keeping and i find out so much from them. Well done Laurence!
@DiverPeg
@DiverPeg 11 ай бұрын
Laurence you are a very good teacher. I am looking forward to trying this method this year.
@BlackMountainHoney
@BlackMountainHoney 11 ай бұрын
Very kind of you to say! Good luck with it :)
@benjamindejonge3624
@benjamindejonge3624 Жыл бұрын
I like this rolling Demoree. It always works out in my top bar hive plus it gives a new queen to rejuvenate
@mruppity64
@mruppity64 3 жыл бұрын
my mentor has explained this many times, but I've come to the realisation that I'm a show me how - this video helped greatly in getting me to understand, plus what my mentor was saying, this all makes sense - I've just left my new "tower block" and despite the disruption, they all seemed very happy. I did however put on a snelgrove entrance board on top to allow the drones out
@topsoutdooradventures
@topsoutdooradventures 5 ай бұрын
I love your videos. Clear, concise and understandable. I actually hate it when they end. Thanks so much for what you are doing.
@steve66oh
@steve66oh Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised to see, at 27:15, that the bees seem reluctant to put nectar in the larger drone comb. I had been thinking that they'd prefer fewer but larger cells for honey - doubling the cell volume only increases the cell surface by 1.6x, so the second unit of honey (from 1 to 2 volumes) only needs .6 proportional units of wax, IF the cell wall thickness is constant. But, the bees here are telling me that doesn't work. Maybe the nectar spills out easier from larger cells. Maybe the same cell wall thickness is too thin to support heavier cells of honey, so they'd have to build thicker, negating the advantage. All I know, is that I can see that the bees don't want honey in larger cells. Great shot.. thanks!
@tonyvanoostrom3501
@tonyvanoostrom3501 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Laurence. As someone else commented, probably the best explanation on Demaree I have seen. Excellent detail. The time lapse, 7-10 days apart over about a month is also very helpful! Another big benefit for beekeepers besides loads of honey is more drawn deep frames in the end. Here in Canada and I am sure In Wales, we are always short on drawn frames. After this manipulation, you get an extra box of drawn foundation once the honey is extracted. If you did the manipulation twice, twice the frames. It truly is phenomenal how fast they draw frames in that bottom deep. I have never done 2 successive demarree’s, I may try that on the 2 Demarrees that I did a month ago. Bottom deeps are full of brood. Thanks again. Really appreciate your fantastic videos 👍👍🐝🐝
@BlackMountainHoney
@BlackMountainHoney 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Tony! Thanks for your kind comments. Yes that's a really good point. It helps boost reserves of drawn combs which is such a fantastic resource for beekeepers
@honeyhousehold9480
@honeyhousehold9480 3 жыл бұрын
What a brilliant video! Thanks so much Laurence, have learnt heaps, will defo be keeping this saved to remind me for next season! Your time is hugely appreciated 🤩👍 Thanks so much, Nick
@NorthernNectar
@NorthernNectar 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Laurence. Great video. I am going to try this on my colonies tomorrow as I have a few that are on double brood and that have 15 frames of brood already. Two questions however if you wouldn’t mind. 1) if moving the original brood box/boxes to the top, they contain stores from winter feed. Obviously when it comes to backfilling and extracting, how can I be sure I’m not extracting syrup that was fed to the bees? 2) drones, they would be trapped unable to get through the queen excluder. What’s your suggestion on that ? Cheers Jamie
@francinekeane9900
@francinekeane9900 Жыл бұрын
Hi Laurence thanks for all your great videos. We are just coming into spring, my hive swarmed 2 time last year so thought I would try your method. Do you have a top entrance if not what happens to the drones as they can't get through the 2 Q excluders?
@GardenOfLife7
@GardenOfLife7 11 ай бұрын
I would love to try this method. Although I am left with one question that prevents me from attempting. How would you prepare this colony for winter, when trying to raise a large number of winter bees - spacewise? Also, would they have enough space to store enough pollen? Also in a climate that requires 2 deeps and 60-80 pounds of honey? I suppose you could save the deep super full of honey. I am trying to wrap my head around the late season operations to properly over winter Great video!
@paulm8392
@paulm8392 10 ай бұрын
This worried me too but I have gone for it anyway. I think the problem is really what happens next April because you cannot keep adding brood boxes and supers next year too or you'll need a ladder to inspect your bees. I think the harsh method is that you want your bees to winter poorly and contract back down to 1 or 2 brood chambers. But generally I can't see how I am not going to end up with twice the amount of bees next January and then 3-4 times the amount next Spring. I suppose you could make a nuc and sell them off to stop the size getting crazy
@arturoward1
@arturoward1 2 жыл бұрын
Once original the 14x12 brood box (( now a super is full of honey how do you extract that ?
@samhouston5217
@samhouston5217 10 ай бұрын
Best explanation of any videos on this subject I have seen to date. Thank you very much. Cheers!
@Hanna-DailyLife
@Hanna-DailyLife 5 ай бұрын
You really outdid yourself with this video. It was amazing!
@glynisreynolds446
@glynisreynolds446 2 жыл бұрын
You convinced me and I’m trying this with two colonies 🤞 Going to make my first inspection after creating my tower blocks to check for emergency queen cells today 😳 Can’t imagine how heavy your boxes are 🤣🤣 but that’s the things that’s worrying me. Lifting heavy boxes is tricky, perhaps I will need to create a step/stand to help me reach 🤣🤣 I’m just re-watching to make sure I get it right 🤞 Thanks Laurence 👏👏 🇬🇧
@IonaBarker-g3x
@IonaBarker-g3x Жыл бұрын
Hi, will the colony try to swarm if you miss a queen cell? The new queen will trapped between the queen excluders. Would the old queen try to swarm? Would the pheromones of the new queen (unmated) be strong enough? Sorry for the questions - need to get my head around the manipulation
@joshwelton4868
@joshwelton4868 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I'm going to try this out. Wish I would of seen this before I did my split this year. Thanks again.
@framcesmoore
@framcesmoore Жыл бұрын
This was and is a excellent vedio thanks for sharing this. Great Job explaining the process as well Thankyou have a blessed week
@jeremyratcliff1875
@jeremyratcliff1875 2 жыл бұрын
I've never done this process before.... but what a great simple process. Thank you for a brilliant explanation
@framcesmoore
@framcesmoore Жыл бұрын
This was great I have watched it 4 times thanks again for doing it. I hope u are safe there. God Bless and have a good week
@veragiles981
@veragiles981 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. This year I wished that I had had my best colony on double brood instead of brood and a half. Yes, they swarmed and have tried to swarm again! I did a vertical split as I'd run out of equipment and realise that next year if I have a colony doing well I shall definitely give your Demaree version a go. It makes perfect sense!
@BlackMountainHoney
@BlackMountainHoney 3 жыл бұрын
Its a great method but guaranteed. Sometimes they are intent on swarming. You still do it if they are on brood and a half. Just shift all brood boxes upstairs and replace with a national deep of drawn comb. Good luck 👍
@robertmclean3550
@robertmclean3550 Ай бұрын
Interesting explanation and description. I've ordered my first Paradise Honey Beebox Smart System for next year. How easy would it be to do a Demaree Vertical Split with the smartbox system. Would you do it just the same, or would you make any changes to suit that system?
@eastsussexbeesandwildlife5801
@eastsussexbeesandwildlife5801 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. Not too long at all, so good to have start to finish in full. I suppose some care has to be taken when extracting honey from previous brood frames to prevent contamination from varroa treatment etc? Thanks again. Peter
@BlackMountainHoney
@BlackMountainHoney 3 жыл бұрын
Very true Peter. Need to ensure the correct withdrawal period is taken with the brood frames. Glad you enjoyed the video
@nuruzzaman4893
@nuruzzaman4893 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlackMountainHoney Excellent method and vid. I don't think I can do this as the extractor we use only takes supper frames. Thanks.
@ferdinandbotha6887
@ferdinandbotha6887 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for walking us through it step by step!
@BlackMountainHoney
@BlackMountainHoney 3 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@davidianoliver
@davidianoliver 3 жыл бұрын
Really clear explanation, thanks. Your videos are some of the best around. You mention that if you accidentally leave an emergency cell upstairs then the bees will swarm. But later you allude to there being an option to leave a cell and raise a queen up there....why wouldn’t the bees swarm in this scenario?
@BlackMountainHoney
@BlackMountainHoney 3 жыл бұрын
It's a bit of a dark art in terms of upper entrances, swarm cells versus emergency cells and placement of excluders. With a pre-emptive demaree, I never let the top box requeen using an emergency cell. Too much risk for little reward. With a 2-3 yr old queen in the lower box and demaree that's made after swarm cells, ill add an upper entrance and try and requeen. Ive had them swarm on both scenarios and stay on both. Safest bet is to remove all queen cells every time
@davidianoliver
@davidianoliver 3 жыл бұрын
@@BlackMountainHoney thanks for the explanation, much appreciated
@mizzprettyhuston
@mizzprettyhuston Жыл бұрын
That's so cool, I wish I'd seen this a few weeks ago before I plucked all the swarm cells and added a box.
@ianwiecksurveyingltd3007
@ianwiecksurveyingltd3007 2 ай бұрын
Great video Laurence, certainly want to try this next year. I do have a question though. Once the original brood box in in effect a “super” is it safe to harvest the honey assuming that the frames in question were subject to verroa treatment previously be that apisan or similar or oxalic acid?
@paulm8392
@paulm8392 10 ай бұрын
So, I did my Demaree split using this precise method. Today, 1 day after, the bees are hatching and there are lots of bees going off out to forage. I presume they are going to find nectar to build comb for the queen in the foundation brood box. They do have plenty honey already so if they need to, they have honey to made wax and still eat. Its true though, the bees were like 'where's my beehive gone' so I had the new foundation box ready and quickly got it into place.
@michaelkatsouris2475
@michaelkatsouris2475 Жыл бұрын
With the top two brood boxes becoming supers ,is the honey going to be good for extraction if you earlier treated for varroa?
@GreatUncleBuck
@GreatUncleBuck 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. This makes me think of the Armenian way to keep bees to prevent swarming by recycling the honey Super after extraction into a bottom brood box with the previous bottom brood box ending up in the middle. One way Bee Escapes replacing the queen excluder when the super is full allowing all bees to escape to the bottom boxes before taking away the super. Their method provided for almost non-intrusive bee keeping especially if you wait three days after closing off the super to allow all bees to escape to the bottom boxes where they have ample space to store and breed. They say the queen loves laying in newly drawn cells rather than old cells, that why they use foundation-less systems. I am sure a combination of what you do and the Armenian method may just be the ultimate in Bee keeping, like making sure the queen is in the "new" bottom box. They produce less honey but their emphasis is on swarm prevention and contact-less bee keeping. The empty super is immediately after extraction returned to the bottom of the hive. There may be some challenges to find out or know where the queen is if the Armenian method is used strictly. Cannot find any info on that.
@Newtsalad
@Newtsalad 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Clearest video yet on a Demeree split, Confident to try it now.
@BlackMountainHoney
@BlackMountainHoney 3 жыл бұрын
This is my favourite swarm management technique. How do you normally manage swarms throughout the season?
@rogierdikkes
@rogierdikkes 3 жыл бұрын
Equalize brood towards NUCs to reduce numbers is guaranteed way of reducing swarms and it raises NUC counts so that is my favorite. 2nd best is something similar to yours: got this from Mike Palmer video. Put a empty brood box in between laid brood boxes, place between the 2nd and 3rd box a excluder. It has the same effect: loads of honey in top box, reduced swarming (since I still have non buckfast some genes still cause them to swarm). Edit: the queen kept laying in cups in bottom box. Edit 2: when i need bees from the supers to make mating hives this way of working is annoying since you have drones in your top box. Some mating islands have strict rules that you should not have any drones in your mating box.
@alanr6529
@alanr6529 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent Larry.
@ibraheemali9541
@ibraheemali9541 Жыл бұрын
good job!!!
@davezman2295
@davezman2295 Жыл бұрын
How much honey did you get out of that hive?
@osmanertas5975
@osmanertas5975 2 жыл бұрын
great video great treatment. i'd only want to know if adding 1-2 drown combs down works better, to let queen keep laying . with only foundation she would wait some time to combs be ready
@miloudbouchefra200
@miloudbouchefra200 Жыл бұрын
The best démarrée split explanation. A newbie here, how do you overwinter such a strong colony? i mean there is a huge number of bees, how do you calculate their food needs and what measures do you take regarding similar colonies after the winter is over?
@lozNZ
@lozNZ 5 ай бұрын
Great video, thanks Lawrence. I have never harvested honey from brood frames before. Is there a danger that synthetic mite treatment will be in the wax and taint the honey?
@lkmary1
@lkmary1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. New technique for me. Looking forward to try it this spring in the USA.
@simbobcrafts4843
@simbobcrafts4843 11 ай бұрын
Great technique. Reckon I'll need an extractor that takes deep langstroth frames
@jonathanrichards9081
@jonathanrichards9081 7 ай бұрын
Fantastic vid, thanks! Will try this next year.
@martenapperloo1055
@martenapperloo1055 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I had advice on what to do with horizontal hives ,its not like you can just add another super
@AndyS_81
@AndyS_81 2 ай бұрын
How do you manage a demaree in relation to brood frames that may have been in the brood box when you have conducted mite treatments previously? As I understood it with most treatments you ‘shouldn’t’ extract from them if they were in when treating but when you move the old brood box up top to be backfilled, isnt that going to have been your previous years brood which would have been treated?
@Tspadger
@Tspadger 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lawrence. Really clear. Just done it on one hive, though I put 2 frames of emerging brood in the bottom. Doubt that will make any difference to the end result, she’s one of the laziest queens around!
@AdsDem0n
@AdsDem0n 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant to get all stages in one video like this, thanks 😊
@BlackMountainHoney
@BlackMountainHoney 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Adam. Hopefully it tied together nicely. One of the most regular bits of feedback we get is to try and stitch videos together in this way :)
@AdsDem0n
@AdsDem0n 3 жыл бұрын
@@BlackMountainHoney You're such a prolific uploader that it can be hard to follow a process split across a few vids, this direction is most welcome! no nonsense 😉
@bzhoneyalanb8613
@bzhoneyalanb8613 2 жыл бұрын
I watched this brilliant video when you posted it. I have a question. Im going to do this in my apiary is it possible to do it with 12-16 production hives in one location? Or is there a limit.
@woodlandharvesthoneycompanyllc
@woodlandharvesthoneycompanyllc 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial! Around here most beekeepers make splits to reduce swarming. This looks far and away better because you are keeping the work force together and even building it stronger. I am guessing but couldn't you still make splits after the honey flow drops off to expand your apiary for next season or make nucs to sell next year? I wish I had known about this earlier this season. We only have about 4to 6 weeks of good flow time left but I think I may give it a go on some of my stronger hives unless you think it is too late this year. Also how would this work with 5 frame nucs. I will say that this method is labor intensive but it pays big rewards. Thanks for hard work you put in to passing this on.
@thenewbeejournal
@thenewbeejournal 3 жыл бұрын
Dear Lawrence, thank you for such a complete video. I like the results very much. I would like to confirm that you do not have small hive bettles in your area, correct?
@BlackMountainHoney
@BlackMountainHoney 3 жыл бұрын
That's correct 👌
@thenewbeejournal
@thenewbeejournal 3 жыл бұрын
@Black Mountain Honey you absolutely demonstrated the effectiveness of that method. I liked it very much, multiplying honey and bees, and ready for a split at any time. I wish I could implement it, but the abundance of SHB makes it a gamble where they are prevalent, only a few unguarded honey frames, and the whole colony will be overwhelmed by SHB larvae. I think I may try it with one of my backyard hives, which I can inspect weekly.
@robertburgin1688
@robertburgin1688 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Lawrance 👋 great video very interesting and what a strong hive, just wondered I've seen other videos similar and they have raised another queen in the top box either to replace or use elsewhere but do you not find the original worker bees kill her when back filling the top box with honey hope this makes sense haha keep up the good work Rob
@lasource811
@lasource811 Жыл бұрын
Me I just put the box of brood above one queen excluder with no suppers in between. They almost never make E-cells. They fill the box of brood with honey and then I can put the queen into a new box below once they are done with capping the honey. I only use drawn comb for the queen to go on. Did this before I even heard of the demaree method.
@philipsmart1453
@philipsmart1453 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great explanation. Do you ever get a drone laying worker in the top two boxes after you cull the queen cells?
@BlackMountainHoney
@BlackMountainHoney 3 жыл бұрын
No. You won't get laying workers up top as the nurse bees migrate below once the brood disappears
@paternostus1
@paternostus1 3 жыл бұрын
You are our go to man for Bee advice. Great videos. Please keep them coming. Fish & Laura @BeeOnTheSolent
@paulkillick4319
@paulkillick4319 3 жыл бұрын
Love this video quick question with the top box if you get emergency cells could you take the frame out and make a split in a 6 frame nuc box
@BlackMountainHoney
@BlackMountainHoney 3 жыл бұрын
You can yes but I don't like make queens from ECs
@HeidiBurgess-bg3ns
@HeidiBurgess-bg3ns 9 ай бұрын
As a hobby beekeeper I only have one extractor which is built for national super frames. How would you suggest that I deal with brood frames full of stores when it comes to extracting?
@xavierdulac1193
@xavierdulac1193 Жыл бұрын
Hello Laurence, thanks a lot for this accurate video. Just one question: why do you place the upper queen excluder? Since there is only the bottom entry and a queen excluder placed above the below crate, could we say that the upper queen excluder is useless?
@adventureswithblm
@adventureswithblm 9 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing. Did you get an answer? 🐝
@MarkMcGeever-br6bw
@MarkMcGeever-br6bw 8 ай бұрын
Hi Would you extract the top 2 boxes that previously held brood? If they had been treated for varroa is there a risk of contaminants entering honey from the wax?
@lindagray5857
@lindagray5857 Жыл бұрын
Excellent job, the best I’ve seen.
@TimeIsHoney
@TimeIsHoney 3 жыл бұрын
Man this is awesome!! Thanks for the tutorial! This is good information on swarm prevention:)
@lasalletxnurse1
@lasalletxnurse1 9 ай бұрын
I have horizontal Layens hives…..how do you do this in thise types of hives?
@debbieperfect1616
@debbieperfect1616 2 ай бұрын
I will definitely be trying this.
@BlackMountainHoney
@BlackMountainHoney 2 ай бұрын
I'm sure it will go well, Debbie. Good luck!
@zeadbeat6654
@zeadbeat6654 9 ай бұрын
Im a newbie and im a bit confused with 2 things. I assume you don’t harvest the honey from the 14x12 that you moved up to the top in the first stage? If so how because I thought extractors can only fit a maximum of brood frames? Secondly, how on earth do you prep this colony for winter? It looks like a lot of boxes to have to remove somehow? Normally on a hive with 1 brood box and 2 supers you’d overwinter them with a single brood box and maybe a super? Do you just harvest all of the honey when its capped and the flow is over and leave them with the 14x12 that’s still on the bottom and perhaps the brood box from the top that’s full of capped stores? Hopefully this makes sense, cheers
@richarddrake1843
@richarddrake1843 10 ай бұрын
My query, I move the brood boxes to the top, the bees hatch and fill with honey, but, I cannot spin brood frames, so how do I move the honey from the brood boxes into my supers, put Super over the top brood box ??
@Bevlaar
@Bevlaar 10 ай бұрын
Hi Lawrence, presumably no drones in the brood? Wanted to try this but have a little drone brood & temperatures are cold where I am right now during the night. Presumably enough bees will find their queen & keep her warm? Have full seams & 7 BIAS couple of play cups. What are your thoughts? Will emerging drones be ok & fly out on next inspection?
@roryglobalactivites4054
@roryglobalactivites4054 Жыл бұрын
Good one fella thanks for the effort you put in to this one. Very clear.
@BlackMountainHoney
@BlackMountainHoney Жыл бұрын
Thanks Rory 😊
@AllenWilliamSayer
@AllenWilliamSayer 11 ай бұрын
Great video Lawrence. One question...is there a danger of having laying workers developing?
@paulm8392
@paulm8392 10 ай бұрын
I think no, because they will become aware of eggs and larvae downstairs while all the comb upstairs will be filling with nectar anyway. I think laying workers only happens once the hive has been queenless for quite a while?
@kennylecroy9706
@kennylecroy9706 Жыл бұрын
When can you do this? And if you put excluder between lower boxes is that a single brood box?
@polmacbradaigh9506
@polmacbradaigh9506 Жыл бұрын
do ya really need the second queen excluder, or whats the idea behind it
@bdmat1969
@bdmat1969 Жыл бұрын
How do emerging drone brood get out of the top boxes?
@MrAaroncornish
@MrAaroncornish 8 ай бұрын
Hey Laurence. As I can't extract the honey from the brood frames (too big for extractor and previously treated) - how can we get the honey moved into supers? Do you nadir the brood boxes after 3 weeks
@dennislintz1
@dennislintz1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining this so well. I know what me next step is now.
@ruthisaac2390
@ruthisaac2390 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are so easy to follow.
@nickfry9864
@nickfry9864 Жыл бұрын
Hi Laurence, How soon can I swap the brood boxes and supers round to encourage the honey is stored in the supers rather than brood boxes?
@JP-nx9rm
@JP-nx9rm 3 жыл бұрын
If you had one size box ,could you just checkerboard the brood box amongst 4 boxes and run an unlimited brood nest,say until July then slip in the QE with the queen in bottom box as shes slowing down laying ?
@BlackMountainHoney
@BlackMountainHoney 3 жыл бұрын
Not ideal for taking a spring crop and a real pain for trying to find any emergency cells if you throw brood all over the place.
@JP-nx9rm
@JP-nx9rm 3 жыл бұрын
@@BlackMountainHoney ok thanks !
@mam.a1229
@mam.a1229 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much! what is the use of the second excluder? also in 6 weeks' time, the honey on top is just for the bees because it will be in the original brood box?
@adventureswithblm
@adventureswithblm 9 ай бұрын
I had the same question? Why do you need the second excluder?
@goshawkfoxhill
@goshawkfoxhill 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is I have no way of extracting 14x12 or standard boxes so I assume this method would be not so good unless you let them fill the brood boxes then keep for autumn to give back to bees then you needn’t give much sugar solution.
@Stephen-kx8fz
@Stephen-kx8fz Жыл бұрын
Definitely going to give this a try this year
@paulm8392
@paulm8392 10 ай бұрын
What do you do in winter - does the colony contract back down to 2 brood boxes or does the hive continue to grow vertically? There is a limit to how high the hive can go surely?
@davidsoloninka7742
@davidsoloninka7742 Жыл бұрын
Are your blue ish green gloves sting proof?... if so where did you get them? Thx, DS Ohio
@robertburgin1688
@robertburgin1688 2 жыл бұрын
Just watched this video for the 50th time haha when doing a demeree do you need to worry about the original broodbox turning into a super? Just wondered with verroa treatment ect Thanks Rob
@BlackMountainHoney
@BlackMountainHoney 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Precisely. Can't do it if you've treated with Apivar and then use as a Super but once the brood emerges, you can recycle the box back down into the brood zone
@TNfamilyfarm
@TNfamilyfarm Жыл бұрын
How do you get all your boxes you build everything?
@donnawatts2375
@donnawatts2375 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and very informative. I don't believe I have seen this explained any better. What do you do with the backfilled honey in the old brood box. I have been told if the frame has had brood in the past then you shouldn't extract the honey for consumption, is this correct?
@BlackMountainHoney
@BlackMountainHoney 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Donna. Honey is fine as long as the combs don't have varroa treatment residues on them. Any cocoons are filtered out
@donnawatts2375
@donnawatts2375 3 жыл бұрын
@@BlackMountainHoney Nice to know, thanks
@wendyknight9574
@wendyknight9574 6 ай бұрын
I winced each time you put the boxes on. I angst about squashing my bees and have to take longer.
@danholtbk7008
@danholtbk7008 Жыл бұрын
Unrelated question: Can you think of any reason not to have robbing screens on year round?
@simonwinstanley1105
@simonwinstanley1105 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Laurence, thanks 👍
@BlackMountainHoney
@BlackMountainHoney 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Simon
@albadarmotorslahore5617
@albadarmotorslahore5617 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation Sir. Love From Pakistan
@denpictor8992
@denpictor8992 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks think I might give that a try.
@BlackMountainHoney
@BlackMountainHoney 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely one for your beekeeping arsenal!
@BBRapiary
@BBRapiary Жыл бұрын
Sir is it needed to put two supers between the brood box or it can be one?
@ryanpratt9746
@ryanpratt9746 Жыл бұрын
When do you plan to do this ? And when do you remove the honey ?.
@pshaskins1
@pshaskins1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the video. However, at some point, won't it get to a point where you're forced to do an actual split? It seems that there will be so many bees that they will start bearding because of no space in the hive.
@BlackMountainHoney
@BlackMountainHoney Жыл бұрын
Nope. That's the idea. You get them past the swarming point and as long as you give them space, they just make HONEY. Its brilliant. Give it a go
@paulm8392
@paulm8392 10 ай бұрын
This is my concern too - won't I just end up with 5-6 boxes of bees and then I practically can't add more boxes because it'll be crazy. I suppose one limitation could be that a queen can't lay enough eggs to fill 6 boxes in one year.
@samhouston5217
@samhouston5217 10 ай бұрын
Did you start with 3 boxes of brood with Queen? Then put queen with her 1 frame of queen on a new box with empty frames, then up queen excluder, the up original brood box 1 of 3, then up empty box with frames. then excluder, then up original brood box 2 of 3, then up another original brood box 3 of 3 original brood box. Is that right? or did you start with 2 original brood boxes? with 1 of 2 right on top of the bottom box with the queen and the other original 2 of 2 original brood box on the very top of the stack with empties in between? Sorry I'm new and apparently dense.
@WalkerBeeRanch
@WalkerBeeRanch 3 жыл бұрын
can you place empty foundation in the 2 boxes above the bottom box or should it already be drawn out?
@tonyeckstein4438
@tonyeckstein4438 3 жыл бұрын
Hi again. With a 2 brood box set up can I move just 1 box to the top of the split and replace that 1 box with a box of foundation on the bottom thereby having 1 box of brood in all stages with the Queen and 1 box of foundation on the bottom?
@BlackMountainHoney
@BlackMountainHoney 3 жыл бұрын
You can do that but it doesn't quite have the same effect of turbocharging the new queens laying.
@TheCelticpanman
@TheCelticpanman Жыл бұрын
Hi I was wondering about the honey that is now in the top brood boxes where the brood was. What do you do with the honey? Do you Harvest it for sale? Do you keep it for nucs? I was always under the impression that you didn't harvest honey from a brood chamber for sale
@EJbtinkerbell
@EJbtinkerbell 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks fro the video, would you extract the honey from the brood frames ?
@IanUK.
@IanUK. 2 жыл бұрын
Hi,. How do you decide when to do a preemptive split ? I have single 14x12 broodboxes.
@kennethparkin7652
@kennethparkin7652 3 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see that on the long hive .
@BlackMountainHoney
@BlackMountainHoney 3 жыл бұрын
I'm still kinda racking my brain on swarm management on a long hive. Definitely aren't as many options available
@TheDanspence
@TheDanspence 3 жыл бұрын
I guess it woukd work the same in the long hive, move brood to far end etc
@kennethparkin7652
@kennethparkin7652 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheDanspence I guess I would treat it like a horizontal Rose hive system
@paulm8392
@paulm8392 10 ай бұрын
Are the bees in the upper brood boxes more aggressive for a period? I found when my bees lost their queen they became quite antsy.
@paulm8392
@paulm8392 10 ай бұрын
Does this method wear the queen out faster?
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