Storm Daniel batters Greece, Turkey and Bulgaria with heavy rain | DW News

In Europe Storm Daniel has battered Greece, Turkey and Bulgaria causing landslides and further damage with the deluge. Nine people are confirmed to have died so far. The storm has dumped vast amounts of water on southeastern Europe, with Greece recording the highest level of rainfall since at least 2006. The floods in Greece follow weeks of drought and wildfires. The government says climate change is to blame.
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[@konstantinoskor7267]

Mayor of Volos, who "urged people to stay inside", did not close the local businesses or the public sector buildings, so employees actually were obligated to go to work despite the extreme weather forecasts.

[@georgeandriopoulos1418]

Exactly and there has been no compensation for their work. Same in Athens while there was the hight of the heatwave workers were forced to work under 46 decrees

[@Kartoffelsuppe_m_Wursteinlage]

Compensation for work or survive?? This mayor of Volos is a great man. What is so important, where do you go, to risk your own life??

[@indian9632]

Maybe public offices need to be open to provide emergency services

[@jasondaniels640]

Wow. Even in life and death situations, we can still blame someone else for our well-being and safety? What about having some agency or at least some sense.. I won't risk my life for any job.

[@gerryhouska2859]

As a firefighter (now retired) I often did.@@jasondaniels640

[@MonicaLattice-xj6kb]

God Bless Bulgaria God Bless Greece God Bless Turkiye

[@markroberts528]

Yes ❤

[@JavenarchX]

There are no gods. Sorry

[@samirayassamani300]

Governments around the world have been and are acting irresponsibly in regard to climate change, so how can one rely on them in times of unfolding catastrophes???

[@joseenoel8093]

Touché, well said (most politicians are men I'm adding and I don't like stating the obvious but).... Greed is greed, most public workers asleep at the job anyway, it's how they keep them!

[@Anurania]

What can they do? People would revolt if their quality of life is reduced, which is the only realistic way to mitigate human impact, and they would revolt if taxes are hiked to pay for more sustainable means of living. Humans will never voluntarily give anything up to save the environment, even if the world was burning down around them. It's not in our nature or the nature of life in general. We're like the colony of animals kept in a cage that consumes and overpopulates and pollutes its environment until the toxicity causes a total collapse.

[@amandagordon-ic1wb]

It’s not the government, it’s all of us humans that are implicit in climate change

[@gcb4763]

But sport hits the headlines. No one cares about the environment.

[@justayoutuber1906]

Stormy Daniels cost Trump a lot too.

[@Balmorax]

She's a force of nature that one.

[@alinesobieray2436]

😅🤗🤑

[@8fledermaus8]

Thank you, good one XDXDXD

[@martiansoon9092]

This seems to follow the current pattern: First heatwave, then extreme drought, then heavy rains with flashfloods... Air is like a sponge when it is getting warmer, it takes more and more humidity in it and then pours it in one location. You may still have same annual amount of rain, but now the rain comes down in just few storms. There is no mild rain anymore. This is what El Niño brings. More heat, extreme weather and floods. Same in China, Brasil, Greece, Turkey, Florida, ... At the same time... BTW most of western media does not even report Chinese extreme floods in multiple cities... (Partly caused by Chinese governments orders to open damns to protect Beijing and other politically important cities, partly by allowing building in flood planis, ... 300 mm rains...)

[@markroberts528]

Yes we are at 78% humidity in Cyprus!

[@williamwatson8751]

Cloud seeding and solar forced climate change at play here

[@pawel7196]

Oil fanatics are like: "what extreme weather?"

[@manyulgarprsch]

Where were the reports from Bulgaria?

[@indian9632]

I can confidently say that people are not gonna change a bit.

[@jasondaniels640]

Fact.

[@bethlehemeisenhour5807]

Yes, After the storm, they relax and continue in their sin.

[@T-rexBreath]

A Greek mayor berating his citizens while standing in torrential rain is incredible imagery.

[@DoreenBellDotan]

agreed

[@tomwery5155]

Try 🙏

[@Kartoffelsuppe_m_Wursteinlage]

Grrek people expect to live forever. What could go wrong in my Mercedes? ;) Ellines einai !!

[@DefaultUsername156]

It's like an old painting

[@paulheydarian1281]

​​​@-AnonLab2 Not sure how a dead rabbi from two thousand years ago can save the Greeks today. 🤔

[@heinedenmark]

We(Denmark) had a drought in June..then we had the wettest July ever. August was also very wet. Now the heat is back.. really weird.

[@MrJdsenior]

Get used to it, it is going to get MUCH worse.

[@wilsan806]

I live in Aarhus and this year we've seen maybe twice the normal amount of foreign tourists during the summer break. The reason? The usual "summer destinations" were top hot this year and people simply went north.

[@heinedenmark]

@@wilsan806 Same in Copenhagen.. many Americans and Italians.

[@heinedenmark]

@@MrJdsenior Yes.. I know.

[@Ass_of_Amalek]

and by "wet" in august, you mean that it was also very unseasonably cold (~10° lower than normal) at the same time as a prolonged mediterranean heatwave, and all those global temperature records! there was a stationary boundary between a mediterranean high pressure and a northern european low pressure system hovering around the alps or southern to central germany for I think 5 or 6 weeks! currently here in northern germany, since the heat has begun to return somewhat ~2 weeks ago, I have killed more mosquitos than in the last five years combined. and I don't think they're quite here yet, but I hear germany is currently getting its first ever serious mosquito-born illness, which is the west nile virus hitchhiking on the invasive asian tiger mosquito (also potentially carrying several other human diseases like yellow fever, dengue, and zika).

[@marcob1729]

I'm typically not a governmental apologist, but I don't know if anyone can fairly expect the Greek government to know what to do when they get a year's worth of rain in one day. Unprecedented kind of means unprecedented. They clearly need to add this to the playbook though

[@AnimilesYT]

Scientists have been warning about events like this for literally decades. This kind of destruction wasn't expected this quickly, but there has been enough time for governments to set up disaster plans. So I think anyone can fairly expect the Greek government to know what to do. The lack of a playbook has been either willful ignorance or negligence.

[@lewis1997II]

@@AnimilesYT And for decades goverments from all over the world have ignored their pleas and just kept emmiting without a care in the world.

[@marcob1729]

@@AnimilesYTGovernments can’t prepare for everything regardless of probability. That’s just wishful thinking. Even the most responsible governments can have a tough time with statistically expected natural events.

[@jasondaniels640]

And watch, some will still ignore it for decades (or maybe only years now that incidents of extreme weather is ahead of forecasts and pretty frequent)

[@2000sborton]

Considering that the scientists have been warning the world about this since at least the late 1960's, I think that it should be fairly obvious that the world governments decided a long time ago to let this play out. What is happening now was predicted as far back as 1968. That is 55 years ago. But essentially, nothing was done to prevent it. I have heard many explanations for that, from greed to corruption. I think that the reality is that it was recognized that this would take care of the planets most pressing problem, overpopulation. So let the elite get rich while the scourge of humans is reduced to a sustainable billion or so. Buckle up folks, the ride is getting pretty nasty while we encounter this turbulence.

[@somethingandahalf]

well thank you for mentioning bulgaria.. except you didnt. we've had casualties too, bodies found in sea by coastguards, thank you for reporting on that

[@tedv8323]

0 reporting on Bulgaria!

[@paulheydarian1281]

Who measures rainfall in kilograms? 🤪

[@SorminaESar]

Oh Turkey😪 after earthquake, high inflation, threat of starving caused by scarcity of grain, now floody🤧, so saddest and make me tears😭😭😭😭😭

[@knietiefimdispo2458]

I heard everything is fine in Truthahn. No inflation, only sunshine and Erdogan is so positiv. Oh, sorry. Positiv on corona ;- )

[@eren6362]

True already 40% of turkish people starved they are down to 50 Million residents now😢😢😢

[@SorminaESar]

@@knietiefimdispo2458 😂😂😂😂😂

[@priortokaraew7569]

it is from allah especially for erdogan

[@eren6362]

@@priortokaraew7569 help turkey before everyone starves or next year nobody will live anymore 😭😭😭😭

[@heliosX1000]

Meteorologists in Poland saying, that storm cloud what causing all of this is standing in the same place from 24 hours. That is terryfing.

[@rdpallipandatv9283]

Better keep spending the money for weapons instead for situations like that

[@tophat593]

That Stormy Daniels really does blow hard. No mushroom left standing.

[@AinonCheng-l7k]

the reporter got me at "careless summer would be a thing of the past"

[@rickyto2106]

Why did it get you?

[@northboy7996]

@@rickyto2106🫣

[@Kartoffelsuppe_m_Wursteinlage]

In recent years they had wildfires, earthquakes, medicanes, austerity and turkish threats. Greek nation is famous in keeping the focus on life and to continue. Remember "Alexis Zorbas", everything is in ruins, "Show me to dance! DANCE!!".

[@AinonCheng-l7k]

@@rickyto2106 means no more futile summer holidays for diliriour tourist

[@ANIMALS_AND_MORE_moments]

Sad to hear about all the destruction. The part I am missing is consideration of the agro culture demages, in other words, food.

[@coleengoodell7523]

Yes exactly. Methane concentrations in the upper atmosphere is a major contributor to climate change and is a direct result of industrial farming, meat production practices. NASA can now see exactly where the highest levels of methane are being produced or released, yet no solutions have been established.

[@harmonizer87261]

Not Stormy Daniels 😂😂😂

[@knietiefimdispo2458]

Genau was ich zuerst gelesen habe. Mein Kleinhirn trickst mich jeden Tag aus.

[@e4t662]

Too little too late. We reached an extinction tipping point long ago.

[@Bubbles12345-cat]

What does that mean?

[@pawel7196]

@@Bubbles12345-cat We are witnessing 6th mass extinction in Earth history. Something called Holocene Extinction is caused entirely by human activity. In plain words it means that species are perishing in a much faster rate than in normal conditions.

[@telboyjack100]

No we didn't.

[@Bubbles12345-cat]

Please don't be a climate change denialist. This is serious, and we're totally screwed. Thank God, I'm already old and don't have any children, as people are going to suffer tremendously when the runaway climate change kicks in. 🙈🙈🙈🙈

[@coleengoodell7523]

Yes, the 6th extinction event has already begun.

[@freespiritable]

I wonder how in the world, between Greek floods and Italian floods, Albania has been safe so far from any of it.

[@8fledermaus8]

Lol, Italy and Greece being both like, "Everything swell Albania, hope we don't bother you?" 🤨 Sorry, I know this is an important subject, I take climate change very serious, but this made me laugh ^^ Edit: Greetings to Albania from a German ^^

[@kathrynmcmorrow7170]

St. Mother Teresa pulling a few strings.

[@erdalask5877]

We're going to keep facing these crazy weather events more and more every year as the Oceans and seas are heating up. We might see a very hot winter and a suddenly a meter of snow the next day this winter.

[@Bubbles12345-cat]

That should be fun to watch!

[@gcb4763]

No one should be surprised.

[@shahmudinkarim4910]

Mankind has brought calamity after centuries of destruction to mother earth.Its too late now.

[@Naomi-xu4hq]

It's actually the opposite. Winters will get colder

[@alexandyrmitew9964]

This "crazy" events are coused by cuting the forests... the roots are stoping the water... imagine what roots have 50 or 100 years old trees...... but someone need to think before doing something... :))))

[@knietiefimdispo2458]

Why did i read "Stormy Daniels" at first moment?

[@stargazer5073]

Prayers, so sorry 😞

[@BabyRQ]

Very Unfortunate for many people. 😢

[@malikmumtazz6333]

Well indeed this summer has been a record breaker in term of high temperature we never experienced before.dwelling rooms are just like kitchens.despite eight times taking baths during day plus night I personally never realized any relief from scorching heat.i think burning Auto fuels must be banned.

[@northboy7996]

Where do you live ? Just curious what regions are experiencing this

[@kathrynmcmorrow7170]

That's how it was in San Diego California last few summers. This year much more temperate. Unusual amount of mosquitos plaguing at the moment though.

[@zeffster2]

The new normal. Norway also had unusual floods in a parts of the country which this doesn't happen. The infrastructure just isnt made for this scale, but I guess the rebuilding will make it better

[@21gioni]

Always after any large fire one must expect flooding rains. It is a natural occurrence in Australia it is known as a fire storm.

[@DP-wk9qs]

No coverage on Bulgaria, seriously?

[@cami0076]

да, малоумници

[@downtoearth74]

yes I noticed the same about the earthquake in Turkey and Syria both were affected but the coverage of the aftermath here was Turkey only. ?????

[@dlewis8405]

Just like California. All the water comes at once. Greece needs to build diversion channels and storage reservoirs to capture all that water.

[@Ominousheat]

That's not really the truth! California is historically hot and sunny, hot and sunny. Check the records. The humid atmospheric rivers you get now are due purely because of climatic change. It has nothing to do with a lack of adaptation. It's global warming. Fyi. You have a severe problem with water in the western US. The Rocky's snow melt is becoming less and less each year and east-of-the-range aquafers have been completely abused by growing cities like Salt Lake and Las Vegas; so there is no water to manage. Thank you golf course builders and hot tub lovers.

[@haydndoucet4172]

Yes but adaptation is the key

[@Ominousheat]

@@haydndoucet4172 Key to what? It's not key to mitigating fossil fuels. And to suggest people everywhere are just going to lie down and let global warming roll over them is patronising. You are trying to argue something that is obviously part of the itinerary of reaction to a looming threat. What is key is the instant dismantling of the petrochemical companies. To make them all state-owned and heavily regulated. To rid us of the greed that capitalism has encouraged. Karl Marx was completely right about capitalism. But the fossil fuel-lobbied right-wing parties of the world have completely sold their soul for what will be a mere temporary enrichment of their lives. All the while telling people not to listen to predictions coming from socialists inferring it a communist conspiracy. The industrial capitalists have achieved the scam of all scams. Never has the Earth ever faced such a cataclysmic threat from the life it has nurtured. They are a virus. And if you do the math you will find that the thermal forcing of anthropogenic GHGs is equal to the energy released from the Chixilub impactor roughly every ten years. You can't hold back that tide of heat just by raising sea walls higher or changing agricultural processes. The only way to stop this madness and have a chance to reverse the damage is to destroy big oil. They are a deadly organisation and need to be stopped at all costs. Or soon there will be no one left to stop them.

[@isimerias]

Greece is tiny. Greek geography is bad. You build one dam in a valley and suddenly you’ve flooded half of the little amount of flat land in a province. There are almost no major rivers to speak of, just tiny valleys and small rivers flowing a short distance from mountain to see. Very small catchment areas. I don’t see a good future for the country in the future climate…

[@NeverRubARhubarb]

140kg of rain per square metre? Since when has rainfall been measured by weight?

[@8fledermaus8]

It makes sense if you want to illustrate how much force there can be in these flashfloods. 140 liter per m²=140.000 tons of water per km². When that moves downhill and builds up in narrow waterways there is hardly anything which can stop it.

[@TalithaEmman]

Storm and extreme weather

[@nickmail7604]

It wasnt a record here in the UK, it was bog standard.

[@thequackashow619]

Sadly not true - you had a hot June then a extremely wet July

[@ruthcollins2841]

​@@thequackashow619Had the same decades ago. We call it summer.😊

[@thequackashow619]

@@ruthcollins2841 Sadly it was the Sixth Wettest July since record began

[@nikeethanatos4357]

Excuses from the government, every fire set by an arsonist,all the deforestation that has been going on for eons blamed on climate change. People have always been destroying that beautiful landscape

[@janicecosta6884]

So sorry!!! May God alleviate their losses. We know how the effects of a big hurricane affects the community. We will never forget Andrew! It was disastrous! My prayers are with the people.

[@maxhugen]

*"140 kgs per square metre"* (3:06) What a strange way to describe the _volume_ of rainfall !!!

[@lewis1997II]

1kg of water is 1L so it isn't that hard to convert

[@pawel7196]

@@lewis1997II The beauty of metrics

[@infinitelo_op]

I would just say "140 mm of rain" 🤔

[@c.r.t.]

To make it easy 85cm height in 24 hours

[@8fledermaus8]

That conversion can make it easier to understand just how much power these flashfloods have. 750mm/liter per m²=750.000 tons of water per km². The force of that much water moving rips through infrastructure and buildings in no time, let alone carrying away puny cars or humans.

[@w.d.g.]

I never made it to Greece. It's literally being washed away and drowned. bummer.

[@perseusarkouda]

We survived for ~3.5k years of recorded history, in one of the most destructive crossroad of civilization clashes of the world. I think we can survive wildfires and floodings.

[@notafantbh]

"fighting climate change will cost a lot of money and we will lose our way of life!!!" Let's see what this will cost us in just a decade

[@alexspringett]

at some point economic collapse

[@lenethharris-johnson8238]

You didn't say anything about Bulgaria.

[@joseenoel8093]

Stay the course, fight for climate! I'm a chick forest technician in Quebec, majored in sylviculture but not up for being part of the problem, became a stay at home mom! Nature's funny giving us tons of carbon through Canada's fires here as many people don't think it's their duty to cut emissions, warmer air also holds more carbon, yay!

[@Ominousheat]

And it holds more water. 7% per 1 degree C I think. And water vapour is another GHG. 📢💚👍

[@biggeststeppa1]

I just know they wanted to call it Stormy Daniels 😂😂😂

[@مقارنات_الجيوش]

lybia destroyed by this

[@boomerang0101]

I bought saffron from greece

[@Jormunguandr]

Next year gonna be even more fun, meanwhile in usa "local dad sues global warming"

[@chetanjoshi2159]

Do not blame weather. It is human and politicians.

[@zeljkamarson950]

It s not natural..

[@sumiland6445]

🥺💔 very hard to watch people caught in extreme flooding, no matter where it happens.

[@forthoseabouttodie]

“There is no climate emergency,” the Global Climate Intelligence Group (CLINTEL) said in its World Climate Declaration (pdf), made public in August. “Climate science should be less political, while climate policies should be more scientific.

[@oziozev4638]

Türkiye... and nothing for Bulgaria🇧🇬

[@mariajason3547]

I know they Didnt name this "Storm Daniel"......🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️

[@Ass_of_Amalek]

1:16 750l/m² in 18 hours? daaaamn! in other words, that's 75cm of rainfall (about 2.7 appropriately selected freedom appendages).

[@c.r.t.]

Yeap!

[@8fledermaus8]

Or 750.000 tons of water per km². No wonder those rains carry cars, hollow out roads and breaks bridges, so much force when that amount of water gets moving.

[@xrafter]

how is the amount of rain counted? 75cm seems low, also centimeters for length.

[@8fledermaus8]

@@xrafter you measure it with a cylinder open at the top. 75cm means the cylinder got filled to that height, which transposed means there were 750 liters of rainfall per square meter, which is humongous.

[@lordgheist_ofstock8237]

Why does this tittle remind me of Trump😂

[@knietiefimdispo2458]

He has the best Stormys. So bigly stormy than no one else has.

[@michaelhorath6851]

Trump went from thinking about a running mate( 2024 ) to thinking about running from an inmate.😆🤣🤣🤣

[@fjalaeperendisembetetperje5605]

The Imam in Istanbul being heard in the background is so annoying!

[@tns7]

As Greek the country is finished. From now on north countries will be the best place to live because of good weather.

[@reclhoss]

...and temperatures will continue to rise until the planet exits the latest ice age.

[@ellencm09]

For sure many pet are also died

[@issith7340]

The wild fires in Greece this year were not caused by climate zone. People set them, and they were not from Greece. Instead all the clues showed our east neighbors!!!

[@eleidal]

could we just take a moment to praise the muezzin's prayer? amazing sounds from his voice. beautiful!

[@8fledermaus8]

Thought the same ^^

[@F.a.224]

🤮🤮

[@eleidal]

@@F.a.224 did i offend?

[@psihozefir]

Stormy Daniels...

[@jonathantatler]

STORM DANIEL? did nobody think that name through?

[@KarlSchulze-qi7lk]

Its amping up

[@smithmsiska6150]

It's sad. But I must admit, I clicked on this post for the comments.

[@hollyhoman1625]

Just like the commercial networks, you aren't reporting on the cause of these storms. Do an in depth report on global warming and which countries are largely to blame for the rising temperatures. Here's a hint: The US is right at the top. Then how about an in depth report on how the US government is doing little to nothing about it. Then show us, tell us how much the fossil fuel industry is donating to election campaigns and which lawmakers are complicit and compare those donations with the votes for and against legislation like the Green New Deal.

[@charlenejulius8501]

End time biblical prophecy coming to pass. This is only the beginning of all sorrows to come

[@ellencm09]

The Mother Earth revenge!

[@josephbanatlao6461]

Global Breaker? Honey the world is just getting stated this is just a warm up for the main act

[@ryx007]

Before Storm Daniel there was Stormi Daniel and she pretty much battered the entire world. X'D P.S. - Don't mean to berate her or criticize her.

[@hasssan145]

أشهد أن لا إله إلا الله

[@salimsalama6897]

At a time when European countries are suffering from massive rainfall, we see the opposite here, where drought is sweeping the country - and temperatures reach 50 degrees Celsius in the month of August. Baghdad.🌹let's change the weather and countries 😁.

[@xylfox]

750l(up to now) So we are about 1 Billion l/square km!

[@drsyedrazaaliali1459]

Storm is a disturbed state of astronomical body's atmospheric existence. European Wind storm Season 2023-24 is maybe 9th season for European windstorm. There's no understanding or universal definition of what constitutes any rainfall or windstorm maybe. Some theorists argue that extreme weather is more intensifying sea level rise due to climate change. At least five processes effect storm: Wind setup Atmospheric pressure Earth's rotation (Corilois Effect) Effect of waves Surface run off due to rainfall To allow for 'Forecast and Uncertainties' models of input parameters can be created as MOM( Maximum of Maximums) It's necessary to identify each category of a hurricane that will result in flooding. Otherwise storm surge will cause property damage and losses of life. Storm is unpredictable. But storm chasing can be good scientific investigations for understanding severe weather conditions and counter them.😊😊😅

[@JH-gd5eh]

Lets blame Climate Change.

[@truthiscensored]

It's crazy what has been going on in Grease, Due-by, Bay-Gene Chyna and Meta-Gene, Colombia

[@Onoma314]

Just wait until next year. I'd prepare now If I were you

[@zoickn]

China, Taiwan, Greece Vegas and Haiwaii.....where else?

[@konstantinoskor7267]

It's not just the extreme weather. It's mainly the unprepared, failed and corrupt state of Mitsotakis which the media never talk about.

[@nogyo]

Only a few regional channels like Kontra and Pronews. It's just sad.

[@pawel7196]

It's MAINLY because of the weather, not preparations. If you think differently, please tell us how would you prepare in a few short days to stop an entire year worth of rainfall?

[@valevisa8429]

Did you ever have a good government in Greece ?

[@nogyo]

@@valevisa8429 By my personal experience and opinion, yes. Syriza.

[@georgeandriopoulos1418]

they do not talk about because they are paid by Mitsotakis read about list Petsa (λίστα Πέτσα). He paid 19.832.132,94 nearly 20 million euros (state money mind you) to endorse as en excuse the Stay at Home campaign during Covid. I think it was more to put a good face for him its not by chance we are in the 107th possition in the freedom of the press

[@eliasmouawad]

The series that warned about such events: "The Great Disasters" (Part 4)

[@mygoogle7373]

Το έχουν παραχέσει τα μέσα ενημέρωσης

[@briant7951]

Mathew 24

[@SorminaESar]

Good evening every one arround the world🙏

[@mikementzer9292]

God bless, my friend! Hope you are safe.

[@elenamonteagudo9855]

OMG those screams in the back 😱🙄🙈

[@Kartoffelsuppe_m_Wursteinlage]

Kleftaki (little thief) is a nice name. Oh yes, not a dating site here. ;)

[@cynthiapulis1267]

Isn't it funny calling a storm by a human name!!?? Its quite ridiculous???

[@steve_frenchcougar1747]

all the excess fresh water going into the sea will make things even worst welcome to the age of consequence

[@msheehandub]

Stormy Daniels returns?!

[@billpappas9722]

0:07

[@kimmanning2913]

"9 people have died."

[@thegamepz]

Why you didn’t show Bulgaria ? Showed Turkey with the annoying noise in the background and not even one word for Bulgaria 😠

[@rosegold1933]

Who's to blame?of course human,especially those rich people who don't really care about environment only care about money

[@tomwery5155]

How much rain? Or should i say reign? 😂

[@chetanjoshi2159]

Do not fight with nebours. Storm will not hurt.?!

[@yomajo]

Smuggle more oil

[@billpappas9722]

Governments had decades to prepare for this nobody should die i 2023

[@driesjottier5014]

Stormy Daniels..........

[@garysuplee5092]

Our Father isn't playing church.

[@genericyoutube]

Get trump to pay it $130k

[@LadymaryC]

Nope. Arson.

[@MrJuby101157]

this weather have to move now more to nordt of Europe.