Storm doesn't play how you think she does - [ MARVEL RIVALS ]

[@xXChaD]

If I had a nickel for every time a hero shooter makes a supportive dps only for them to have the lowest pickrate I'd have at least 3 nickels. Which isn't a lot but idk why this keeps happening.

[@cctz_1]

It keeps happening because theyre a dps that barely does dps lol. She rly should be a support

[@TheDancerMacabre]

@@cctz_1 I say make her a Vanguard with some Supportive abilities like Magneto and Hulk. There would have to be some minor alterations to her kit and health, but not much different in change of playstyle They can keep her damage in check because Vanguards aren't supposed to have 2 tap potential, she still stays with her team instead of diving, and can scout and ping if need be

[@arglebargle5531]

@@cctz_1 it doesn't matter, there's no role lock. Her weather abilities can significantly increase Team DPS, retreat, and push abilities. People don't pick her because DPS players don't want to rely on their team, and that's what Storm's abilities require. Her piercing shots are super underrated for DPS too.

[@AluRooftop]

@@cctz_1 Hero shooter design has a huge issue with supportive kits on characters that don't heal (thanks, overwatch, i hate it). Even if storm was tuned more into her supportive role and did less damage in exchange for crazy move speed/slow and some sort of debuff on right click people would still be mad if she was "in the support category". Me personally I want it to happen just out of spite for that genre convention

[@lordmew5]

​@@AluRooftopbattleborn the first hero shooter had one

[@Matt-fu9bm]

I love storm but she does need some love but they must be very careful buffing her because I can see her being extremely OP with the wrong tweaks

[@TheButtaSauce]

Her auto in Tornado mode should knock enemies back instead of penetrate to help with rushdowns. Her auto in Thunder mode should be changed to hit-scan lightning bolts, with increased damage, that can headshot with less dropoff. Her buff sphere should be changed to a cylinder instead of a sphere so she can actually take advantage of her verticality. She needs a dash (maybe one that stuns enemies) to give her more survivability. Replace her Bolt Rush (Right-Click) with this. Her Thor team-up should empower he lightning bolts to chain for 8 seconds. There. I fixed her.

[@Matt-fu9bm]

@ damn , that’s kind of mind blowing and i can’t even disagree with anything. I’m speechless lmfao

[@TheButtaSauce]

@Matt-fu9bm Thank you. Makes her more interesting, less of a liability against hit-scanners and dives, and doesn't overpower her.

[@KrisHornett_]

​@@TheButtaSaucethese are great ideas

[@jadegreenleaf781]

​@@TheButtaSauceI'm not really a fan of these tbh, I've been seeing suggestions like this a lot but? Why does everyone want to completely change her kit?

[@Yesnog05]

My friend made a point to say that storm is a "pseudo-support" character and i didn't understand as i didn't have a good time with her when I played her. But when we started winning and he got a lot of MVPs as storm, I started to go online to see some guides and this was one of the vids I saw and now everything makes sense!

[@miliar1234]

the attack buff gives you assists when kills, assists + kills=MVP, but is she really a good character though, MVP doesn't mean anything when you play a support character.

[@lordmew5]

​@@miliar1234yes she is but requires more team coordination then any other character in the game

[@phamminh9806]

@@miliar1234 yes it does, it means that your dps is bad 😂

[@noname6969]

@@miliar1234 "MVP doesn't mean anything" 🧂

[@Cythereattv]

Try in rank, then come back. I have never seen Storm in GM and above. You'll see why

[@dignelberrt]

I think her thor teamup should do 75 damage on the initial hit, and 35 on the chains. It feels incredibly weak as is.

[@stuntwill]

Yeah, especially considering the 20 second cooldown!

[@SeraphimDragon]

Yeah, getting the achievement with that stupid team up ability was a chore. Literally her weakest attack.

[@patrickfyall3536]

She shouldn't even need a team up for that 1 lil move. Smh

[@GodSlayerZancrow]

It’s a 60 meter hitscan poke tool with no damage fall off. You can also aim at the floor and still chain to enemies within 5 meters. It helps her farm ult much faster.

[@ElevenAce]

I think it's just really meant to support Thor. When he pushes. Folks act differently when they start loosing health.

[@cowpolk5763]

Forgot to mention how activating Goddess Boost while in Lightning mode also causes period lightning strikes on all enemies in the radius. So when fighting someone in close range not only are you doing massive damage with your regular attacks (As well as damage boosting your team), you're also zapping all enemies for 35 damage every 2 seconds. This is great for when you're getting dived by enemies you cant escape from by flying away (Iron Fist for example) or for when your team pushes into the enemy team and everyones balled up on a point or payload and you can dish out some fast extra damage. Great for building ulti meter when you're hitting multiple targets.

[@BenAstridge]

It's surprising how many people seem to not know this when it's definitely where a SIGNIFICANT amount of her damage should be coming from!

[@shoukaiser]

On some good matches with stalemate teamfights that I've gotten to stick in, I've probably ulted 3x as much as other people because her stuff climbs so face.

[@Tbear995]

It can also hit around corners

[@BenAstridge]

@@Tbear995 it needs line of sight i thought

[@cameronroberts4296]

i think "massive damage with your regular attacks" is a bit of a stretch.

[@snatchr2451]

"Zipping around" is generous, she still moves incredibly slowly even with her buff. Shes a sitting duck

[@paulakroy2635]

It’s her fucking costume

[@therealbahamut]

Seriously, even Tony gets a speed boost for a bit so why does the literal storm goddess get stuck slowly hovering everywhere?

[@JayceCH.]

Which is why people have her in low tier. Because hitscan/sniping characters (except BW) are dominating.

[@drew1080]

I literally think improving her movement speed is all that's needed and it would make her a more viable character.

[@paulakroy2635]

@@JayceCH.she is usually played behind a shield

[@lenudnir163]

Somehow some strategists feel more damage focused than Storm and personally I think it's a bit weird

[@kamikeserpentail3778]

At long range, 1v1, Mantis is stronger. At close range, 1v1, Mantis needs to land only headshots to compete, while Storm can just hit wherever. At either range, when multiple enemies are involved, Storm does more damage.

[@judomaster8629]

@@kamikeserpentail3778 Well no at long range Storm deals like 20-30 dmgs while in thunder mode she's really meant to be up front

[@3takoyakis]

Yeah legit, if you want damage boost, use mantis or rocket or luna snow Why pick her, a DPS, to support your team?! She cant heal and her damage is terrible

[@tomlemao7462]

well like said in the video, Storm really isn't meant to do 1v1. Her job is to deal a lot of AOE damage, so it's not surprising to see a strategist with more damage if your storm forget about this key definig trait of her

[@lenudnir163]

@@tomlemao7462 I don't mean that she doesn't do enough damage, I mean that the way you have to play Storm to fully optimalize her kit feels very team focused compared to other damage characters.

[@hiurro]

Makes storm one of two flying characters. Makes flying a critical mistake. Kit design is my passion.

[@yoshibrothers9982]

Storm and Iron Man are simply arrow magnets for Hawkeye and as a Hawkeye main this makes me happy

[@bajaox3923]

@@yoshibrothers9982 until you hit higher elo

[@sthepcorms6747]

@@hiurro This is my biggest problem with her, she's literally build around flying, but the moment you fly with her, you're getting rid of the most useful part of her kit She's just a bad designed character

[@sthepcorms6747]

​@@bajaox3923Nah, Hawkeye makes Iron Man and Stoem unplayable, in fact, he makes half of the characters unplayable, that's why he and Hela are banned every single game

[@ajl6854]

@@sthepcorms6747 she’s not built around flying. She’s built around supporting the team. Change your play style and she can carry your team unless theyre trash and trying to solo everything.

[@nofuneral6754]

Been enjoying Storm, but learning about piercing is a game changer.

[@Webhead123]

I think Storm is a good hero. I just think that being classed as a Duelist contributes to a lot of people misunderstanding how she's supposed to play. She definitely works more like a Strategist by sticking near her team to give them buffs and support. Played smart, she can get her team out of a lot of bad situations.

[@BunnychanFarabee]

I feel like heroes such as her and Namor, and maybe high-utility low-output Strategists like Loki, need to be reclassified into a new role called "Specialist". It would also create design space for more supportive/unorthodox heroes in the future.

[@rajabuta]

She's a 4th role. 😂 Put her in strat and people will complain because she doesn't heal

[@edfreak9001]

strategist seems like it's very intentionally being kept to "people who can heal" since that way people can't go "lol i'm going support!!!" when all anyone wants from that role is healing.

[@jcartist5881]

agreed. I also think she deserves some QOL buffs

[@WhatIsTheHeat]

She has no heal that’s why she isn’t a strategist

[@xmalin1]

She seperately needs lower cooldowns. There's no way her right click should be 8 seconds just for 70 damage. If they dont want to buff the damage than just lower the cooldown to 6 seconds or so. Goddess blessing could be lower too, 23 seconds is atrocious (Cooldown only starts after it finishes for whatever reason so it's not actually 15 seconds)

[@stuntwill]

I can see where you're coming from, but I also don't underestimate how powerful each of those abilities are. For Goddess Blessing, we're still talking a great damage buff for the length of the ability and a decent one during the 15 second cooldown. Also, that 70 damage from the right-click will almost certainly be buffed either 16% or 30% for you, AND hit multiple enemies if you're using it well, so really consider it's damage output in those terms as well.

[@xmalin1]

@stuntwill 70 damage+30% is still only like what, 90 damage? And you can't even use this ability twice during the amplifier because the cooldown is longer than the duration. The piercing effect is so negligible it's not even worth mentioning. If they want to keep her numbers low because of the piercing effect, why not make her projectile have more width? The fact that the blades send in a random diagonal angle feels awful and inconsistent aswell She is STATISTICALLY the 2nd worst performing DPS in winrate only barely being over black widow, so there's a LOT of room to buff her

[@stuntwill]

You raise some interesting points, and it really makes you wonder what scope they were thinking when balancing her. Did they take into account her impact on the entire team when tuning her? If so, that would leave her feeling individually underwhelming for sure.

[@robsquare2622]

@@stuntwill been on both sides of this, and I can say if they were balancing for impact on team they can do better. I Literally barely notice anything storm do anything apart from a random tornado killing 2 people a few times a game. She needs a total rebalance. Windblade simply doesn't do enough of anything. Even with all abilities firing it's not oppressive at all which feels bad to play, bad to play with and just sad to play against. It neeeeeeeds to headshot or why even try to aim at all. Just give it chaining effect on primary like moon knight or make wind blade apply 8% slow on enemies or something. Something to give her presence.

[@codysorenson4298]

I'd be happy if it stunned them for a second or 2

[@Andrew-wv9ys]

Storm is all about looking after your team, being patient and waiting for your enemy to make a mistake. Some will understandably find that boring, but for fans this is an excellent depiction of her character and personality. She's easily one of the best anti-dive characters in the game. Many players ignore objectives just so they can bully the healers out of the game. It's so satisfying to shut them down instead. Mama Storm says you need a time out! Also, it's worth it to line up the piercing shots even at long range. You can trade safely against most characters and it speeds up your ult charge a lot. It's not unfair to view her primary attack as an ult-charging tool that happens to do some damage. And her ultimate - holy toledo! It's just better than most other ults out there. You get to move crazy fast at first, and you're invulnerable while you set up. That alone puts her into a completely different class than anyone who has to risk health for positioning. Storm can make plays that just aren't possible for other characters, and for me it only adds to the enjoyment that a bit of patience and thoughtfulness is required to set up for those truly heroic moments.

[@tre8812]

@Andrew-wv9ys im a huge fan of storm and she's my main, but I wouldn't say her kit is an excellent depiction of her and what she has done. Storm has never been a stay in the back and kite kind of character. She's always more so been the one to lead the charge. Don't get me wrong she's not bad and is actually tons of fun but this isn't who storm is. She should have infinite ammo, maybe a little bit of tracking on her shots like dagger has and definitely needs a damage buff and she is far too squishy, even more so than characters who should actually be squishy. Imo The fall off damage on her is stupid design honestly. I would like them to rework her, not a major one as i do like her playstyle a bit just add more things and lose some thing, but a buff would be good aswell if they don't. Also, almost everyone in this game is potentially OP dont think that should be something to worry about when half the roster is already at that point.

[@Andrew-wv9ys]

@@tre8812 I guess it depends which characteristics of hers seem the most iconic to you. She does lead from the front, it's true. What I think of the most is how she's incredibly powerful but uses as little of it as possible. Her full potential only comes out once she's convinced there's truly no alternative. For me, that concept of her marries perfectly with a gentler kit that leads into a showstopper ult. I can see where you're coming from, though - we do want our girl feeling proper heroic!

[@tre8812]

@Andrew-wv9ys I can see that. I think it all depends on the iteration of her we are referencing. In newer comics (Krakoa/Arakko/ New Avengers era) she's more so all about that power. Protecting her allies means stopping the threat as fast as possible. But in the past she did hold herself back and preferred precision. Thats why I think the idea behind her kit is perfect, it's just the execution of it feels rather unfinished compared to other heroes. She doesn't even have a passive which almost all the others do.

[@tre8812]

@Andrew-wv9ys my personal suggestion: Make her basic attack change with her aura. Making wind aura the basic she has now that pierces with small tracking capabilities and the lightning aura can have a basic attack that can crit or can chain to near by enemies, her chain lightning basically. Her wind aura should add an armor buff to all allies in radius on her goddess boost instead of speed boost (make the speed increase a normal part of her wind aura without the boost) and increase the slow percentage since its not really noticeable, change the animation from wind to sleet/ blizzard and add small tick damage. Make her aura a little larger overall and no reduction when flying high. Lastly make omega hurricane a little stronger and have it be as wide as mantis ult but also larger vertically so she can hit flying enemies as well. Her Lightning aura i think is fine as is, maybe just make the bolts strike every second with enemies who are grouped up taking a little extra damage. Otherwise, give her infinite ammo, take off the fall off damage and give her a bigger health pool.

[@Voodoo_Occasions]

Storm aint a baby sitter in the comics. She is a goddess. She gets stronger when others worship her. Instead of buffing her team she should get progressively stronger the more allies she has near her.

[@BenAstridge]

Her goddess boost isn't just a damage boost ability, it DEALS damage too, which imo tends to arguably be stronger. Enemies are hit by lightning strikes every 2 seconds for 35 damage. You can easily kill injured enemies by flying over them, using goddess boost and following them, you don't even have to shoot... but ya can!

[@TailicaiCorporation]

I just picked up Storm. Had a 24 KO game. First game I just picked her like a few days ago and had NO IDEA what she did. It was bad. But once you know to not be so far, play around corners, and using her E at the right time, you’re golden. Also, Gambit would be so dope. Our group just talked about how awesome it would be to have him in

[@reginaldfrempong6644]

It's weird for Storms basic attack to have a reload

[@wadeo_0]

Only thing they should have given her was evasion dashes in all directions when she's flying to move a bit faster

[@HexxedOfficial]

She's plays so satisfyingly if you set your new FPS limit to 80 or above. It greatly enhances the feel and connection of your shots and flow of your gameplay, including movement which is obvious.

[@stuntwill]

Oh yes, it is SO satisfying to watch your shots pierce through multiple enemies!

[@bronybro1616]

Making her a ranged brawl character is pretty neat, I don't hate her, but I hope they give her at the very least a base movement speed boost. She's tough to play as but feels very rewarding to frag out with, you just need to understand her kit and have the right mindset. She's not poke, she's not dive, she's brawl. Her with Thor and mantis is actually crazy. Damage boosts, plus slows making Thor absolutely terrifying to squishies. I heard Storm MIGHT have a team up with Johnny and that will make the team comp even crazier

[@bobbypendragon7375]

this was helpful. i do think a lot of people's main problem is assuming she should be flying in the sky like iron man, but i also think she needs a couple of tweaks to be viable

[@MysticMagic-bt9nn]

Glad there's this guide that actually explains good strategies and play styles instead of just saying "heres her moves" like I've seen a lot of

[@MrEzioCraft360]

I played storm for a day and found her extremely fun, easily my top 5 characters. I did play her a bit too far up though from my team, so next time I'll stay closer to the ground. thanks for the tips, they all make great sense

[@se_xyprincess]

i'm a gm storm and this is the best storm guide I've seen. Everyone seems to forget that storm is queen of AOE damage. keeping up constant pressure. also people always over look all her skills pierce. smh.

[@hulkingelf4957]

Personally the only things i want changed for her is a bit more base movement and either mor mag or no reload.

[@baemaxxed5389]

Totally agree, why does she need to reload but Hawkeye doesn't?

[@stuntwill]

(Insert meme with Henry Cavill reloading his arms)

[@JaseRider]

I thought she was a very basic and lackluster pseudo damage/support, but after taking the time to learn the nuances of her kit, I fell in love. Super technical, effective and satisfying to play.

[@Foxiebuttercup]

Another thing to about her ult is that it can be heal tanked by some healer’s ults, like Mantis, Luna, and Cloak and Dagger. I recommend waiting until after they use theirs cause they can save their whole team from dying. Unless you wanna force them to use their ults for strategy reasons

[@Venoch_]

This makes a lot of sense after you try to play her at a distancd like Iron Man and she feels really weak. Also I second motion to add Gambit to the game! Gambit would be too sick

[@Diceux]

I think she will be one of, if not, the first character to get a rework. Hopefully the do a hype video for it that starts with the line "Omega Level Mutant Detected."

[@bluemuyunda4145]

luv luv luv this hero! I LOVE the idea of a utility based duelist because, as a support player, it's a fun playstyle that combines DMG n Supp. Glad to see a video trynna shine sum light on her because all the content creators doing her dirty in the tier lists :( she does definitely need some love. Hopefully they don't overbuff her and she becomes an annoying perma banned hero. I like how she is rn where I never have to worry about someone else on the team taking her lol.

[@Bohdisattva326]

This is the correct way to play storm ⛈️

[@JMQA1]

You should also talk about the type of map the hero thrives on for the next time. As a Storm player, you want to line people up for her autos, so payload maps work better. Dom maps seem to have more spread out teams. In the footage you showed you are holding them at the choke on the domination map, this is of course good but you have to already be in a winning position to fight here. If the enemy was smart and all around the point, you're in trouble with Storm with the enemy positioning. It's not just about how to play a hero, it's when to pick a hero too.

[@SpaceRider15]

36-0-30 game as Storm before watching this video, hopefully now I’ll preform even better

[@stuntwill]

Looks like you got it, but I’d say your next goal is to get as much piercing damage as you can to farm ult quick! Try to get your ult twice as much as others on your team in a round.

[@Ancient_Guru369]

@@SpaceRider15 I had a 33-4-33 as Storm. She’s my main and he is definitely correct on how to play with her. I’ve been playing with her since the launch date and learned how valuable she is close to the team. Just wish she could dash away causing an electric shock as she flees from danger.

[@harrisongrad469]

Small and advanced tip. Here attacks are a cycle of 3 where there's a pause to the next set. the timing is .3 seconds shorter than the switching between storms. So you shoot three shots switch mods shoot three switch. You then have zero wasted time on your abilities.

[@markula382]

Right now she feels useful as an off DPS replacing 1 of the tanks. 1 Tank 3 dps 2 healers. If they want her to be a main DPS they need to make some changes. However her kit could become OP very easily if they aren't careful.

[@MC-ns8gb]

She works best with 2 or 3 tanks

[@FranOfBattle]

With the amount of damage in the game She is best played with 2 tanks. Even supports deal crazy damage before damage fall off

[@EmmaSpiritcaller]

Storm's Goddess Boost with lightning is a great anti-dive tool for protecting your team's backline. Along with the occasional lightning strikes, it also hits anyone in its radius upon activating it as well.

[@KC80SiX]

The boost radius should be a bit more clear on what you are in. Like Lucio. Yellow and green is easier to track during fights rather than wind and lightning

[@oKiterrrr]

This was my first impression of ur channel and it was so fun to watch ❤❤

[@Saturday_Jones]

I am waiting for Gambit too, been a fan since the ‘90s. Unlike your friend, I am playing without him. I really enjoy Peni so far

[@luigiboi4244]

I personally hope Vision gets added. He has such a unique powerset to be adapted to the game, and I just think he's underrated.

[@TankyCrobat]

Chain lightning chains if you hit the ground. aim low.

[@stuntwill]

Good tip, thanks! I also noticed that the right-click can hit 2 close targets if you hit the ground between them.

[@jonb6564]

Yeah, it's got an area of effect when it hits the ground.

[@brandnewghoul]

Super concise breakdown man. I love her in the comics and want to enjoy playing her more but she hasn’t clicked for me yet. I’m gonna give her another chance and hopefully her incoming buffs don’t break her.

[@andysauro1500]

She needs a few tweaks to her numbers. 15% flat boost rate to DPS/Speed for teammates and herself IMO + double it for Goddess Boost. And why do I have to recharge my Wind (Primary fire)?

[@phatpat63]

This is the best guide I've seen. People really don't understand how to use her or how massive the impact she has on a team actually is. That 8% damage buff on a few characters is a massive difference over the course of a whole match, and that's underselling it because most characters are tuned so they leave a just little sliver of health on the next to last hit. So with the Storm buff every character can kill in one less hit, and that makes every team fight go your way provided you can keep your own damage respectable and not get taken out immediately. Every time my team gets the momentum when I play her it just turns into bullying the other team into their spawn.

[@graveyardshift2100]

I'm disappointed by her needing ammo for her main attack. I'd like to see Quicksilver as a strategist, and Rogue as a vanguard. Quicksilver could run around delivering med packs, reposition people, and have an ult based on the cool scenes from the X-men movies. And Rogue could have something similar to Mantis where her attacks slowly build up power for other abilities, and an ult similar to Loki but without the shape shifting.

[@pharoah125]

@@graveyardshift2100 Storm’s need to “reload” is probably the biggest disconnect between source character and game character in the whole game. That and her lumbering movement. It ruins the fantasy of the character.

[@JuicyJosh98]

Bro gambit would be so huge! And thanks for the vid. I love Storm, but had a hard time whenever i could pick dps and chose her. imma give a a try soon

[@joseph2000117]

God i love the investigative journalism side of Rivals youtubers. You guys rock

[@parrisxsummers]

(This isn’t investigative journalism)

[@626drums]

The day I realized she is so effective while sticking with her team, I was racking up kills, assists and had a ton of fun playing her. The fact that her attacks "go through" people like electricity and she hovers behind her team exactly like the X-Men, gave me huge respect for the design of her character. Great video!

[@Zathren]

Oh. Shes not poorly designed. I'm using her like shes freaking Iron Man. Wow. I'm stupid.

[@kyseth87]

Me too buddy lol

[@TostonDePana]

@@Zathren only bad designers blame users for mistakes. that's design 101. not your fault you thought a flying character was supposed to fly.

[@sleepyrainy1317]

Great guide and overview! I'd like to see Polaris added to the game.

[@stuntwill]

Ooh, that would be cool! And there's a decent chance of that, too, since it's rumored that Cap's daughter from another universe may be added.

[@shub125]

This was a very informative video. Can you do one on hulk please?

[@stuntwill]

I have more hours in Hulk than Storm, so that’s a good possibility!

[@shub125]

@stuntwill cool can't wait

[@mrpuppington1018]

thanks for this -- made a ton of difference! Storm needs love.

[@stuntwill]

You're welcome! I hope you continue to enjoy playing as Storm, and even more when she gets buffed soon!

[@Aleksandr_Tararin]

My friend asked me why Storm has the lowest pick rate, and I told him this: DPS players don't pick her because she doesn't really do damage Strategist players don't pick her because she isn't in a strategist category and they will be blamed if they don't switch to a healer; either that or they didn't figure out that storm is a support yet, because the game is early in its lifespan (which ties to the previous point basically). Why isn't she categorized as a strategist? I bet you it's because of symmetra. For people who don't know, first few iterations of Symmetra in overwatch couldn't heal, but she was still labeled as a support hero. What ended up happening is people who picked symmetra were always under pressure from their teammates and were blamed for anything. This pushed an already unique character to even lower playrates. Marvel rivals probably doesn't want to repeat that experience, so they labeled storm as DPS from the start.

[@Enwickote]

Cause no heals = no strat, simple. As you said with Sym's case, she as supp was dumb as well

[@Aleksandr_Tararin]

@Enwickote that "no heals = no support" mentality is dumb, not that symmetra as support didn't make sense. They aren't called "healers" for that specific reason. For example, look at Apex Legends and Mirage. At first his kit seems very selfish, kind of like what a Duelist here or Skirmisher there might have, but when he was changed to be a support, everybody agreed that he is more of a support, despite not having healing of buffing abilities. Now, Apex Legends is very different from Marvel Rivals, and everybody can heal themselves with consumables there, but there are supports who can heal or restore shields in apex, and no one thinks that those who can't aren't supports. There are also non-support characters who can do that, and no one thinks that they need to be moved to support. Or we can take the other side of the spectrum of Marvel Rivals, mobas. In league of legends, dota and heroes of the storm, support doesn't equal healing or shielding at all. Rather it's usually an "enabler", who buffs allies, debuffs enemies, or can restrict enemy actions in some ways. Guess what? Storm literally does everything I just listed. So imo if most people stopped having this restrictive mentality of "support have to heal", we would see much more interesting support concepts.

[@Sebs-FFXIV]

@@Aleksandr_Tararin but the thing with games like overwatch and rivals is that the team that usually gets first pick wins, storm is easy to kill and does not kill efficiently enough especially with the current meta where hawkeye and hela are must ban or pick, so why would anyone actually want her on the team? instead of having personal damage and relying on others to kill is just dumb, i way rather play characters that can kill enemies with their own power, relying on others to not suck is just idiotic. dont get me wrong i like the idea of storm, but how the game is its just not good at all, i play healer in rivals and i can have literally like 70k healing at the end of the game and i still lose, you wanna know why? because i have deadweight DPS who cannot kill anyone, i try and keep everyone alive but when enemies have DPS who actually can do DPS while i don't, we just lose, that is how the game is, DPS need to kill enemies or the fight will never end, storm does not do that, instead she "enables" her team to do slighly more damage but her personal damage and survivability sucks so much that the fights are still lost

[@SeraphimDragon]

@@Aleksandr_Tararin "No heals = no support" is valid, not dumb. Why? Because if my team's only support is someone who can't heal our frontline, but the enemy team has support that can? Guess who wins 90% of the time? The team that has heals to sustain shoot outs. I've lost against 3 tanks and 3 healers, despite all the damage my team had with only 2 healers and 1 tank. If the DPS isn't fast enough, isn't precise enough, it ABSOLUTELY is mandatory to have healing for your team. And before you make the argument about running for health packs on the ground, think about what that requires players to do; abandon the objective temporarily and hope your injured teammates don't die before you get back, or hope you don't get picked off before getting healed on the way to the pack.

[@Aleksandr_Tararin]

@SeraphimDragon idk why but you all act as if I said "storm can replace a healer", find me something resembling this, obviously she can't solo support, I never argued with that, but if I'd had to categorize storm I would put her into strategist category all the same, and in 90% of other games she would be categorized as support, and it's literally only overwatch where I've seen people complain about a support character not being able to heal.

[@Saturday_Jones]

Thank you for this video, I main vanguard and sometimes dabble in strategist. I’ve been struggling to find a duelist I enjoy and Storm has been awesome for me after watching this video.

[@BingBangPoe]

Imho Storm should've been a Strategist. Make her weather aura also provide a small heal-over-time to teammates caught in its radius, which increases the more allies are inside of it.

[@unknowndragon3736]

@@BingBangPoe hard disagree with the healing over time, maybe instead a damage reduction to those within her sphere (and a minor chance for allied weapons to auto hit/track the enemy)

[@nikki9317]

Healing does not go well with the character storm, she never had healing powers or stuff like that also its weird that wind or lightning had the power to heal

[@Ardentuss]

@@nikki9317 mantis, rocket, Loki, and dagger don’t have healing powers either but they were made into strategist. It wouldn’t be outlandish if they had done the same for storm on release. Plus ultron is gonna be a strategist too, and you would think between him and storm that he would be the dualist.

[@Meansbtattoo_n]

I just recently started playing to correct way with Storm and it was a way different experience. Love it

[@sockinvaders]

FYI guys the official stats came out from the devs and in ranked, Storm is the 13th best character. With a higher win rate than Psylocke, Captain America and Hawkeye. Albeit shes in only 2% of matches, compared to 15-31% for the other 3. So a small number of people are doing very well with her.

[@recklez8131]

Just so you know if a champion has incredibly low pick rate and also relatively mediocre win rate that means the champ is dogshit. Because even mains are barely making the champ work. There's a reason why there's not a single storm main in the top 500

[@sockinvaders]

@recklez8131 I get it. It's not a super reliable stat with so few people playing her. No doubt if more did, it goes down. Still, not something to be sniffed at. Some people have been able to make her work. If she was pure garbage, it could easily go the other way. For everyone who tries her out, gets a bad KD and never returns, there are others who have got a tune out of her.

[@leapy3165]

This is really useful! I still think I’d like to see a buff regarding her damage falloff at a distance, but knowing her shots pierce is very helpful, it just feels terrible to deal next to no damage at only a mild distance when she requires a lot of accuracy bc her projectiles are so skow

[@erypto4135]

she seems like she would be insane in scrims and in esports but with randoms not so much.

[@stuntwill]

haha right. In quickplay t's likely your team would feel like they were doing great but had no idea it had anything to do with the Storm buff.

[@seanizaakse2664]

Very cool guide. I was struggling with Storm, but knowing this is a game changer. Really like listening to your video, you don't talk as fast as most Ytubers. Personally I can't wait for Cyclops to come to the game.

[@TheButtaSauce]

Her auto in Tornado mode should knock enemies back instead of penetrate to help with rushdowns. Her auto in Thunder mode should be changed to hit-scan lightning bolts, with increased damage, that can headshot with less dropoff. Her buff sphere should be changed to a cylinder instead of a sphere so she can actually take advantage of her verticality. She needs a dash (maybe one that stuns enemies) to give her more survivability. Replace her Bolt Rush (Right-Click) with this. Her Thor team-up should empower he lightning bolts to chain for 8 seconds. There. I fixed her.

[@stuntwill]

I think you over-tuned her… 😳

[@TheButtaSauce]

@stuntwill How so? A lot of people just want to boost her damage, which i think is a bad idea. Also, increasing her buff %s is a bad idea. The issue is her overall kit design. Removing her Bolt Rush ability and making her auto in Thunder mode lightning bolts that are slightly stronger than her current wind blades seems fair. Giving her windblades knockback instead of penetration would make her more unique and unitility, which is what they seem to be going for with her. Giving her a dash would only benefit her survivability, which is her weakest aspect. I main her when I play DPS and do decent with a good team. But in higher ranks, she needs help.

[@Unknown-jg4uq]

@@stuntwill no, because she's THAT underpowered, unlike widow who a single tweak can catapult her to meta, Storm definitely needs boosts. Her right click is 70 or 75 with an 8 secs cd. The only thing I disagree with is the knockbacks cause it will get annoying soon.

[@pjgolden9274]

Great video and a massive help . Thanks 👍

[@codysorenson4298]

The biggest issue with Storm is that most people just don't know how to play her. She's very good if used correctly. Gonna tear people up when she gets a seasonal buff

[@tutoriallocked]

This video helped me reach GM solo queuing by almost exclusively paying Storm, thank you

[@armorparade]

i am also on the "storm is mostly fine yall are just not paying attention" boat i think the easy solution would be to make her right click have a reduced cooldown if it only hits one target something to increase her individual power while not distracting too hard from her core identity. or even give her some benefit like increased ms or automatic ammo recovery when she's low enough to the ground stuff that encourages proper play and rewards you for using her tools well. the larger problem is as you say- people don't get how to play storm, even if buffs would help out ALSO I LOVE GAMBIT I WOULD LOVE GAMBIT as for me my dream picks are Jubilee, Nightcrawler, and Cable

[@h445]

so....she's not mostly fine?

[@Agherosh]

So you'd do a bunch of things to increase her individual power, so she's not fine, got it. Good job.

[@armorparade]

@@Agherosh i feel like it says a lot about the average player's perspective that they don't perceive a character as good if they are not personally carrying the match. just because i think her individual power could be improved doesn't mean i think she's bad- it means i think it would help make her more impactful in solo queue and low ranks. in higher ranks storm players do not really have problems. this game is built in a way where being the worst doesn't really mean you can't play the game- and i do not consider her the worst duelist like i also think cap should get some buffs to his individual power despite the support end of his kit being perfectly fine in my eyes. does that mean i think he's weak? no lol

[@Agherosh]

@@armorparade Mate, you fail to realize that "Higher ranks" are a minority of the player base, and their opinion matters quite little to the average player. This is exactly how countless games get ruined, because the balancing caters to the profesional players like anyone gives a shit about them.

[@armorparade]

@@Agherosh im not really talking about top ranks im talking about like. diamond/gold lol. i agree the game shouldn't be balanced around the very very top. but i also think the game shouldn't be balanced perfectly around gold and below because these are players who say things like jeff ult is unfair or play iron man as if flying means they don't have to use cover at all the game should be balanced around the assumption that the person playing the character is at a basic level using ALL of the character's tools, and using them correctly- even if they are not a top 500 player you do not need to be a top 500 player to win games and have fun with storm- you just have to be okay with her playstyle. the flipside of the top500 player getting a character nerfed(which, let's be real, does not actually happen that often) is little timmy getting mad about losing to a mediocre character, or feeling left out that they don't enjoy a character that other people do, so the character gets changed, often made worse, and the specialists lose their character while timmy maybe plays with the char for a week before hopping over to something new

[@aquavengeance]

Used this guide to help modify my own gameplay with Storm and it has done wonders. The only difference is that once the enemy team starts getting outnumbered significantly in open areas, I'll pop DPS goddess mode after flying high enough over the enemy team to provide AOE support damage. If they slow down to attack me, they get rushed by my team that's now getting buffed too. On matches where Storm has been applicable, I've ranked highest or second highest damage and get the most assists. If the frontline is good, Storm makes them even better. Thank you for the guide!

[@Gabriel_Micah]

been a storm main since day 1 for no particular reason

[@oOYourdadOo]

1 think was incorrect: Her team-up ability, you can "miss". If you hit any area around them (i.e; a ground or wall) the lightning will still chain to the enemy, similar to how Captain America shield will ricochet to the enemy off objects. This allows you to chain lightning around shields if you have an angle to hit behind shield tanks as well or not sure about a direct hit because of your height/angle and they are in a doorway, etc..

[@Omnicloudx13]

I haven't been playing Storm wrong. I haven't been playing her at all.

[@Riomasa]

I know it’s been some time since this video, but do not discount storm as a flanker. With her flying she can sneak up on the backline and burst down supports before they know what hit them. You may die, but you’ll almost always go 2 for 1, taking out a support and dps always.

[@BM-mh8yh]

I've been getting so sick of people saying Storm is boring/bad when I've been dropping 40 bombs with 30 assists and maintaining a 70% win rate.

[@TimHesse]

@@BM-mh8yh as a Mantis main, with, on average, 30+ assists (and getting dms about it), most brain dead DPS players are looking for kill count for gratification 'i has most kills i did best'...team game!

[@gaodesu_]

70% win rate in what rank? If it’s just you climbing to plat, I feel like any decent player would have that win rate 😂. I just got to plat on black panther, but it’s not like I think he’s better than Hela or Hawkeye lmao

[@kagerouprojess9851]

Well, this recommendation couldn't have come at a more perfect time. I usually play tank, but i was deciding who i would play as dps and ultimately landed on storm because she looked the most interesting. This will be a very handy video ❤

[@stuntwill]

I hope you enjoy her! Remember to use your teammates as meat-shields or nearby hard cover to hide behind quickly, and pierce as many targets as you can with her attacks! The more you pierce, the faster you get your Ultimate which is super fun!

[@poncho7626]

I don't personally see anything wrong with her. Today's gamers are just instant gratification fiends; they want that big damage with one button press. But if you present them with a character who just focuses on sustained damage, they lose their fucking mind.

[@stuntwill]

Yeah, and her biggest impact in a fight isn't even seen from your single point of view -- it's the combined impact of your buff on all your teammates

[@poncho7626]

@@stuntwill Nobody sees that either because they're too busy playing selfishly (minus strategist mains, they're a gift from the baby jesus.)

[@kamikeserpentail3778]

Generally, burst damage is better than sustained damage, as you don't have to expose yourself as long, and your opponent can often die before they can even react to it. But she isn't without burst potential, at her ideal range she will kill Hela faster than she can be killed, unless Hela lands a headshot. Storm only needs body shots. And that is while Hela has the 20% season buff, and Storm does not.

[@poncho7626]

@@kamikeserpentail3778 I mean, yeah... burst is usually better in 80% of games. But sustained still has it's place. How often is that healer going to focus on keeping this, for example, Scarlet Witch alive? How many cool downs are going to be burned to keep an ally alive? The sustained pressure is still going to cause a divide in their attention and their resources, resulting in an all around easier game for your team.

[@3takoyakis]

Nah sustained damage are always better. But storm even failed at that. In high rank, the reason why people prefer hela and hawkeye, bcs they could consistently hit the shot.

[@dificulttocure]

These are very good points. I will try her out again.

[@spence6195]

I just think Storm is badly designed. They wanted her to be this Duelist/Strategist hybrid but why pick Storm when Mantis can do what she does better and heal as well?

[@stuntwill]

That’s a great point! She should be balanced with Mantis in mind, obviously focusing on increased damage since she’s a duelist.

[@kamikeserpentail3778]

Because Mantis doesn't do what she does better. Mantis has no aoe damage at all.

[@lordmew5]

Mantis can't buff a whole team, lacks area denial, lacks slows and consistent movement speed, lacks aoesge is just a completely different character but with similar goals but they do pair up well together.

[@dodang_9147]

@@stuntwill they put her as duelist because your suppose flank back lines with her slow aura with a melee hero. to put simply, she's support to buff melee heros but it's not worth picking her to do that job. M/S increase+Slow on melee hero is good in theory but in practice her number are under tuned.

[@MC-ns8gb]

Mantis and storm are the ideal duo, talk to me when you manage to defend a mantis ult with storm speed boost running over your Frontline faster than you can react

[@Mj4life1230087575]

I think once Human Torch gets added and she gets a couple more Team Up's, she will be in a better spot.

[@bronze6877]

I know you tried to justify it, but the fact that Storm is one of two constantly free flying characters that wants to play as low to the ground as possible seems like the ultimate design and character fantasy blunder

[@JcrafterGames]

I do like going off on my own a bit as Storm. Mostly to contest flankers trying to set up on high ground and such. But the team buffs are the main reason I like her as a Duelist. It’s a very unique playstyle for that role. Just wish she had a bit further falloff range, cause her weapon almost feels useless once enemies are a bit further than 15 meters. Either that, or damage not being 50% but more like 70% at max range.

[@stuntwill]

Yeah, I totally agree. It's quite the risky balance to play close enough to do good damage, but not so close you get melted.

[@FireFistMarley]

Yes. Storm sucks.

[@tkm1875]

Said NO ONE ever before this game, lol.

[@kamikeserpentail3778]

No she doesn't. She's just as good as Hela.

[@MrWayneBbizzy]

I put in work with Storm. I noticed her buffs when I first started. She is decent

[@navystylz]

She's boring. People need stop making videos trying to pretend her kit isn't a travesty. You can get kills on anyone. Doesn't change the fact her kit is garbage and no storm goddess power fantasy there. Not to mention people in this game are literal braindead idiots who can't even look left or right half the time to see enemies flanking. So, ya, literally can make any garbage character look good in this game. But good characters stomp harder and more fun doing it.

[@TheButtaSauce]

She's my favorite character, but I'd love to see her kit reworked. Her auto in Tornado mode should knock enemies back instead of penetrate to help with rushdowns. Her auto in Thunder mode should be changed to hit-scan lightning bolts, with increased damage, that can headshot with less dropoff. Her buff sphere should be changed to a cylinder instead of a sphere so she can actually take advantage of her verticality. She needs a dash (maybe one that stuns enemies) to give her more survivability. Replace her Bolt Rush (Right-Click) with this. Her Thor team-up should empower he lightning bolts to chain for 8 seconds.

[@ajl6854]

@@navystylz I have a great time playing her but how well you do also depends on how coordinated the team is. Boring depends on your style I guess. This vid is a good starter to understand how she works but there’s a lot more nuances that can help you do a lot of damage and get a lot of KOs. Yes, if your team is scattered and disorganized you probably won’t do as well with her, but I have no issues keeping up with the top dps in most games. When the team isn’t coordinated enough I tend to switch to someone else though.

[@3takoyakis]

She is the mercy of overwatch, terribly boring and bland. She needs extreme team support to work. Whats stupid from her kit is, she wanted everyone to group up in a game where mobility is everything Worst part, she didnt have speed boost. Why group up around her just for attack boost when you have mantis and rocket?! The fact that shes a DPS, made her not being able to heal. But her damage also terrible?!

[@samoochi2172]

Hate to break it to you, but storm damage buff mixed with a mantis damage buff is peak.

[@samoochi2172]

No other dps character has a damage buffing ability.

[@The_Rude_French_Canadian]

What a coincidence lol I just happened to realize everything you talk about in this video yesterday lol I stayed close to the ground because I noticed the ring around me was larger and then I realized she’s an alt leader of the x-men so it made sense she’d be buffing the team and also be able to cause a lot of damage by just shooting towards the enemy, also her lightning buff is extremely useful with the lightning strikes that randomly hit enemies. Once you understand how she works and play her as intended she absolutely makes a huge difference on a team, so much so I’ve noticed the enemy team will often have a player switch to her after a while of me being an annoyance by buffing and messing up back lines…If you position yourself in a great angle there’s no limit range to her main attack so that’s neat!

[@xCoNa14]

I figured this out after a few games too. She's one of my go-to's for payload pushing

[@BOGOworms4sale]

I think giving her goddess buff the ability to generate shields for her and her team and then switching her role to support would make her a team fight MONSTER. Not even like a crazy amount maybe at the same regen rate as like peni’s shield growth when she’s on webbing. It would be an interesting dynamic I feel like

[@mattkeller5913]

Posting this right before the buff was genius timing. Pocketing her with Mantis is crazy good now and it doesn't even really need to be a pocket. Just keep her as a priority and damage boost when possible.

[@azuresquall5207]

Awesome guide, I indeed had her understood wrong, because I never understood that she shouldn't be iron man levels of height in the air. that said, I would have much preferred Storm to be a sort of area denial queen, with deployable temporary tornados that do damage over time damage in an area and thunder cloud drops that chain damage to grouped up peeps

[@MicDubTV]

Awesome video, man! Straight to the point, but I also really like your delivery. Your voice & delivery reminds me of PartyElite actually. Keep up the great work! SUBBED!

[@lukesoddlife]

Her ult feels one of the more powerful ones in the game - getting a team wipe with her even when she doesn’t do much in the mean time can still change the match outcome

[@Voodoo_Occasions]

Her ult is good until you go against a competent luna, mantis, or cloak and dagger.

[@dudeman4071]

Good to see this character get some love because she has certainly been pushed to the back. Maybe later people will see her potential more.

[@tynorstrom2761]

I feel like Storm could work as a crowd control dps, buffeting gales, starggering lightning, controlling your enemies positioning would make her incredibly powerful for corralling enemy teams especially if she gets a tool for swatting a certain bug out of the sky

[@dtarr77]

Soooo, I gave Storm another try tonight after having seen this a little while back. You're absolutely right in playing her low. She was SIGNIFICANTLY better and more fun. She still needs some love, mainly in the mobility department. Like for example, maybe a dodge skill with a cooldown to quickly save herself from a sniper or something. But wow what a difference it made staying low unless necessary to fly upwards Will probably start playing her more.

[@smt7134]

I’d like to see her speed boost get a buff or give her a quick dash of some kind. Either way I’m loving my Queen.

[@CopShowGuy]

Fun fact about her Thor Teamup ability: You can shoot the floor/wall near an enemy and it will still ricochet. Going for those juicy 3 man hits is nice but I'm more often using it as a second charge of her alt fire.

[@Fuloqwam]

Interesting. I main Thor and found Storm to be my best friend when she's on my team and the bane of my existence when I'm playing against her. Now I know why.

[@jorgez.8335]

Side note, Thor's combo ability can chain off the ground if the enemy is nearby the initial impact.

[@okajkaraca5013]

she is the queen of AoE damage- Lumi

[@AllArePunished]

This was a really helpful guide for storm. Once I stopped trying to play her like iron man, I saw a lot more success.

[@nopenope5203]

Okay, as someone who often likes support style classes, you definitely made storm a lot more appealing to me.

[@BrrambleBerry]

I stick to corners and cover as much as possible. Pushing on Storm essentially means that you’re hopping from corner to corner and hoping your timing and game sense is accurate. Monitering her cool downs carefully means my team can skedaddle when someone is ulting, and when we push I make it a death sentence for dps/tanks who want to brawl. I’ve had a lot of success with her.

[@robertcuh7756]

also when you do the lightning buff with your e if enemies are in your circle you do damage to them its a decent amount aswell.

[@stuntwill]

Yep, for sure. When you 1v1 someone and get them down to a sliver of health, then you know that lighting is coming it's so satisfying!

[@bryanresendiz9377]

I love using her as a support dose, she's great and I notice event teams picking her after they see me on 20-0 lol

[@kippieluckins]

really well put together guide, gj dude