Straight RED Card For A Heated Benteke!?

Andrew Wiebe is back for another edition of Instant Replay as he breaks down the most controversial plays of the weekend.
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[@bairdbiz]

LOL I knew how you were going to edit that intro before I even clicked the video.

[@tylerkeys8878]

Best ref moment in MLS history so far

[@Golfnut_2099]

The only thing worse than the refs are the justification of the VAR calls by the league.

[@one_mega_ohm9139]

1:16 is one of the biggest jokes of a PK call I've ever seen. No mention of the fact that a STL player gets kicked in the head going for a head-ball later with no call.

[@kylethomas7467]

The no call in the CHI ORL game was an embarrassing miss on the field, and a criminal miss by VAR. What the heck were they doing that they didn't review that? Same with the handball. Was VAR at Disney during the game?

[@missionsixty]

Seattle vs Dallas ... 91:35' Shot towards goal is blocked by an arm in the box. Should this have been a PK?

[@cluberti]

Probably, but given how many Dallas players committed questionable handballs without any calls made for it throughout the game, it was at least consistent. No calls all game would have been a very bad thing to make that call at the end of the game.

[@wolffriendinus]

@@cluberti Yet at the same time Seattle fans wouldn't have been surprised. Angry, but not surprised.

[@practicalpenguin5370]

How is 3:06 a handball but 3:23 not? They're practically the same play.

[@theflyingbeagle74787]

Campbells arm is stretched out in an unnatural position

[@SerJacob]

Neither of those were yellows on Dotson, there was no contact at all on the first one

[@Golfnut_2099]

Yeah... First one was a dive.

[@AndersMcA]

First one we can debate, second one is a yellow 110% of the time. No debate.

[@bradleyklemetson375]

Love that Weibe says the first one is a "Clear yellow". Haha not a yellow, not even a foul. Weibe needs to get his head checked.

[@bbar268]

I was rooting for Austin and agree with you 100% on the 1st one. I played it back a few times and see no contact. If there had been contact then maybe, but even that seems questionable. It looks like Dotson won the ball, Zardes realized that there were defenders all around him and went for a dive. The second one seems like a clear yellow

[@ryankatz7707]

I saw 2 missed PK calls for CF Montreal against the NY Redbulls

[@HellbenderSTL]

Disappointed the dangerous play by ATL (‘hIGh kiCk’) wasn’t looked into at all.

[@wadeflores6978]

The ref was right in front of the STL foul…how does he not call it? Is VAR making g ref lazy

[@shalombondar177]

As an Atlanta fan, the gregersen call was BS. Should not have been a PK. Also that ref was goofy with his review. Hysterical to watch live.

[@ZEROs0000]

Talks about Wil Trapp but doesnt talk about the blatant handball by Dallas and BS red card we got. SMH MLS

[@MarvinThiessen]

Still a lot of actors out there vying for an Oscar. Seeing some of that in this year's NHL playoffs, either way, trying to coax a penalty shot (soccer) or a 2-minute penalty (hockey) only cheapens each sport.

[@Corey_Nicholas]

Same handball called in the Rapids game that STL had last week lol

[@rkruz07]

in most leagues ref calls are just different interpretation of the rules. MLS decided to just say each ref can have their own rulebook and don't need to tell the teams what's in it.

[@verzlife]

going from watching the euros to this and these guys are going down soft!!

[@josephedwards1074]

That DC United game was the worse officiating i have seen in any sport in my life. They were worse than the scab refs earlier this year.

[@MarvinThiessen]

MLS has had bush-league refs for years. Czar Garber is too cheap to hire better ones, or just doesn't care, not sure of which.

[@timcartee4295]

It's both.

[@thezbreer454]

Whitecaps v LAFC in the playoff says hello

[@ItsTylerPlayz]

Tim Ford, oh tim ford… (Flashback to Nov 5, 2023)

[@theWanderersnotebook]

*Vietnam flashback intensifies*

[@RW_CreativeMedia]

So the REF can't get it right even with the *VAR?* I thought the VAR was created to avoid these types of problems, the *VAR* should give the REF a clue what really happened and make an unbiased descision.

[@MrCho14]

Anything specific or just every segment on here? In general, it's more likely those complaining don't agree with (and likely understand) the call than it actually being wrong. There are always exceptions.

[@mr.murica9571]

Coming from a crew fan, the Orlando game ref should be removed from mls. She shouldn’t even be allowed to officiate a u8 scrimmage

[@jtvikings3926]

for the sliding handball, i know there at least used to be a specification for players sliding. and it was always the difference between the up or down arm, which in this case would mean since it hit his down arm then that would mean it just isn’t a handling offense.

[@willeiken9393]

No mention of the FC Cincinnati vs New England Revs? Shoddy officiating all game...

[@SLSG018]

I will come back and see all the city fans talking crap about wiebe’s takes. At least he went our way with the one. But if you look from the behind angle, it is clear that Lowen barely touches him and the Atlanta guy just jumps over him. That’s what I saw. Feel free to contradict me.

[@dozyproductionss]

so jumping and arms going up are a natural and unnatural position at the same time?

[@GuloGulo420]

Yuya Kubo kicked the back of the Union player's leg and then fell over. It's not "this contact that made him fall". He knew EXACTLY what he was doing and I am so sick of refs and many others falling for this type of obvious flop. These are professional athletes; you think he didn't know what he was doing?!

[@theflyingbeagle74787]

there was like 2 or 3 handballs in the colorado vs montreal game. at least 1 got called

[@thezbreer454]

I'm surprised they're still letting Tim Ford ref games after the horror show last year in Vancouver.

[@nochepatada]

What's up with the deleting of comments?

[@MrCho14]

Did you leave a link? KZbin will kill your entire post if you include a link in it. They're getting smarter as well if you try to disguise it with a space or out of place character.

[@nochepatada]

@@MrCho14 it said this what sports do you have trouble finding service for? Apple TV package cost over $2 per match, and that's if you watch every one. It goes up pretty high if you miss a couple. Maybe you're at a friend's house who only has cable. More than half of Timbers matches in '22 were free over local TV

[@nochepatada]

@@MrCho14 weird

[@rockinmel1]

Wiebe making the mistake that new MLS fans make: "It was not reviewed," "It should have been reviewed" - THEY ALL WERE REVIEWED. THE VAR OFFICIAL REVIEWS EVERY PLAY OF THE GAME. What you want is for the VAR official to have a DIFFERENT OPINION so that he sends it to the CR. The VAR official cannot by rule send a review to the CR unless the VAR OFFICIAL sees a clear and obvious error. I understand noobs, but Wiebe? SMDH.

[@MrCho14]

Totally agree. The way it was stated it sounds like VAR was at the snack bar. "Check" is what VAR does through the game the entire game. Everything that happens is being checked live and possibly being replayed by VAR and the Assistant VAR. "On Field Review" (or 'OFR') is when VAR did a Check and believes there is a clear and obvious error which the CR needs to look at. (In other leagues, an OFR is not required for things like offside where it's a matter of fact vs opinion.) Regardless of what words are used, Wiebe should be clear that "VAR did not see any clear and obvious error to send for an On Field Review".

[@grantbyassee2594]

You can't watch these games and honest to god think the VAR is actively watching. They miss/don't request a review on so many calls every single week that there's no possible way they could be

[@MrCho14]

@@grantbyassee2594 I truly believe that is a misconception by certain fans as to how VAR is designed to work. Fans want them to re-referee calls as opposed to only finding clear and obvious errors in the situations they are allowed to recommend an OFR. If anything, VAR in MLS oversteps that line too often. Even PRO calls VAR out of having reviewed things they shouldn't have from time to time.

[@trumanpriest144]

That ATL was awarded a Penalty for that ridiculous dive, but StL was not for a player getting kicked in the head in the box with his head at chest height is a farce. Refs need to start having fines for obviously bias referring like this. Players and teams do after a game is over and reviews are done. Hell, I'd be good with a ref having to wear a shirt their next oficiating game saying in big letters; "However, further review shows I blow calls."

[@farls1290]

Those 2 yellows in the MNUFC game were SOFT

[@Hawc51]

I’ll know MLS has made it as a serious league, when it no longer employs clowns as pundits. 👍

[@nochepatada]

Viewership for 2022 MLS Cup: 2.2 million (4th highest) 2023 MLS Cup: >800k (after selling rights to Apple TV)

[@zigzag321go]

Gee, I wonder. Could it be that people hate Apple TV? Nahhh No literally, I've only bought Apple TV to watch Ted Lasso, and I've unsubscribed the moment I finish the season.

[@cdouglas6]

Much prefer the apple coverage compared to other sports of trying to find what service this weeks game is on.

[@MrCho14]

@@zigzag321go I find myself watching USL a lot more now because it's on and available. It was a stupid move by MLS to isolate themselves on a platform where so many people refuse to give money to. I'd like to watch Lasso, but I'm not paying Cupertino for it much less for MLS.

[@nochepatada]

@@cdouglas6 what games are you having trouble finding? NFL is on the same channels every week. NBA on TNT or ABC. Please expand on that. Also I'm trying to watch one team. Prior to Apple, over half the timbers matches were on the 2 local fox affiliates. Now I have to pay more than 2 dollars a match to watch them on my phone. And that's if I watch every match. When I miss some, say I'm at a friend's house with cable and they are a casual fan who doesn't want to pay just to watch a handful of matches. Maybe I want to go camping, or just dont feel like watching, the price goes to $3 or $4 just to watch my local team owned by a rich kid whose team plays in a stadium owned by the city and pays $0 in rent. That's right! I'd have to pay more per match than the owner pays in rent for a match! But please do explain what you mean by "what service a game is on"

[@ChrisHinton1967]

Citation required

[@ShinTzaddi]

I wish that this wasn't an opinion based video

[@Onpointsalad]

Likewise. I agree with this guy 10% of the time(if I’m being generous). I too just want him to explain why the call on the field is made or why it’s changed after review. IDGF about his “opinions”. But MLS doesn’t care about this channel. Only reason this dude gets to share his awful takes.

[@fernandoyax5810]

2 Iove major league soccer

[@timothyconard2825]

Good. Benteke is an unhinged thug.

[@voodoo300]

Will Trapp was absolutely NOT trying to head that ball. PLEASEEEEE.

[@Ultrablase]

Nothing on the obvious handball in the buildup to Seattle's game winning stoppage-time goal against Dallas? Play was reviewed but VAR seemingly ignored it completely.

[@RysloFC]

It wasn’t during the attacking phase of play. Dallas possessed the ball after it, briefly, which reset the APP.

[@cdouglas6]

Or the handball by Dallas minutes before.

[@AndersMcA]

I’m surprised it wasn’t covered as well, but the outcome was correct. Not reviewable as the handball was not in the attacking phase of play leading to the goal. Good goal, no VAR review applicable there.

[@thisisplana]

It would have been great to cover it after the St. Louis call as a perfect example of when a goal should stand. The foul must occur during the act of the scoring team gaining possession (as in the St. Louis foul) or after. Dallas gained possession after Rusnak’s handball and no foul occurred during the winning of the ball or the subsequent attacking play. It’s absolutely shocking that the announcers (including Seattle’s radio call) did not understand the laws governing the use of VAR in that situation. Given how mediocre most of the league announcers are, I don’t understand why they can’t find some mediocre crews that can at least explain the laws.

[@brentopc4916]

Where was the review of the horrendous VAR red card against Charlotte FC????

[@MrCho14]

That was well done by the referee crew. The center referee gave advantage on the initial foul but came back and gave a yellow based on what he saw live. VAR rightfully saw a clear error as the Charlotte player slide in from behind with his cleats directly into the achilles of his opponent.

[@Cthulhu3C]

RE: Dotson the first foul was soft. But if you foul the same guy less than a minute after you get a yellow, you’re begging to be sent off.

[@wake4ty]

Bro needs a new job. These are getting worse and worse. Much like the mls refs.

[@douglasharley2440]

lol, it looked like benteke was 'roid ragin', or something! 🤣

[@dhawerd]

The handball law isnt up for interpretation for the Schlegel call. There is a deliberate caveat for plant arms when sliding to get the ball. That is never a pen and that ref was just atrocious

[@MrCho14]

The question I have there is whether that was a plant arm. He didn't end up using it that way and it hung out there longer than it normally would if he were trying to plant with it.

[@lineyshenprathishan155]

MESSI FANS LIKE! RONALDO FANS BARK IN THE REPLIES PLEASE

[@EvieWillNotDie]

Never a yellow on the 2nd red in the austin game what

[@MrCho14]

I think that one is a good call. The defender looks to purposely step in front to stop the attack. If it wasn't stopping a promising attack, then you'd be right, but he knew what he was doing. Now, the first one it looks like a complete dive with no contact at all.

[@EvieWillNotDie]

@@MrCho14 definitely not, clearly a coming together

[@noahtalley4351]

@@EvieWillNotDieCho is right on this one! If he didn’t stick that leg out, I would agree!

[@bradleyklemetson375]

Th8s is the dumbest take ever. Dude. You have all the angles. Tommy does not get a touch. And Ojeda is very much so going for the ball. What an idiot thing to say. "I'm not sure he's going for the ball here." Haha yeah he is. He sticks his back right to the ball. This isn't luck. He gets to the ball first. Sorry Weibe but that was a pathetic lie or pure misguided take. I'm embarrassed for you. Wow!

[@nickathearn4488]

it was still a dirty tackle from behind that should be a pen regardless of whether or not he got the ball