Stravinsky - Le sacre du printemps

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orangejamtw

orangejamtw

12 жыл бұрын

Gergiev cond. LSO

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@sszz3457
@sszz3457 Жыл бұрын
WUNDERBAR ! DANKE SEHR HERR VALERY GEORGIEV UND IHR ORCHESTRA
@mrbassooner1
@mrbassooner1 12 жыл бұрын
This is far and away my favorite performance of Le Sacre that I've found. Valery Gergiev is the best living interpreter of Stravinsky's ballets. I saw him in the States conducting the Mariinsky Theatre Orchestra performing Mahler's 5th. Thank you very much for putting it all up in one video.
@n2vate
@n2vate 11 жыл бұрын
Watching symphonies on KZbin is a new discovery for me. That was fascinating to watch and a great performance. One of my favorite Stravinsky pieces. I really like Gergiev as conductor. I wish they would sync the music with the video. The sound is about a beat behind. I recommend watching Gergiev conduct Stravinky's Firebird on KZbin. It's the entire piece not the suite and is 47 minutes long. Gergiev was much younger then, but still amazing to see the energy, animation, and endurance.
@annesenchabbat
@annesenchabbat 7 жыл бұрын
J adore cette musique je la trouve magnifique
@Sisifkfkdejj111
@Sisifkfkdejj111 6 жыл бұрын
Annette Senouf elle est horrible je trouve très désagréable pour les oreilles
@pedromariarivera
@pedromariarivera 10 жыл бұрын
La versión es impresionante. Gergiev es un genio y los músicos de la London responden admirablemente ante la descomunal composición de Igor Stravinsky. Ahora que la Tierra está tomando derroteros destructivos porque nosotros colaboramos en ello con nuestra contaminación y abuso de los bienes que nos otorga la Madre Naturaleza, no está de más recordar una y otra vez esta gran obra y "consagrarnos primaveralmente" en su recuperación antes de que sea demasiado tarde.
@mackindle12345
@mackindle12345 11 жыл бұрын
The bassoon solo at the beginning is absolutely stunning, and the Dance of the Maidens is at a speed that I have never heard it.... But it works!!! Gergiev = the Master of Russian music
@mogenseliasen1802
@mogenseliasen1802 Жыл бұрын
The very best performance of this I ever heard, including the not-so-well known rarities. All the "weird" interruptions now make sense.
@ghkypreos1
@ghkypreos1 11 жыл бұрын
Η ορχήστρα αποδίδει με άριστο τρόπο το μυστηριακό ύφος που θέλει να προσδώσει στο έργο ο Σραβίνσκυ. Πολύ καλή παρουσίαση. Μπράβο.
@krane.kk8827
@krane.kk8827 12 жыл бұрын
The Rite of Spring V.Gergeiv is very cool, it my fevorite version:), Lso is the best.
@genevievebauer323
@genevievebauer323 10 жыл бұрын
Magnifique ! comme toujours avec Gergiev.
@narayanan26
@narayanan26 12 жыл бұрын
Great Stravinsky, Thank You Gergiev
@kevtruong1
@kevtruong1 10 жыл бұрын
does anyone else notice that the audio isn't in sync with the video?
@pedromariarivera
@pedromariarivera 10 жыл бұрын
Efectivamente al audio le falta una muy leve sincronía con el vídeo. Sin embargo la versión es impresionante. Gergiev es un genio y la London responde admirablemente.
10 жыл бұрын
Gergiev es increible!
@ecoRfan
@ecoRfan 9 жыл бұрын
For all people saying this performance is too fast, it clocks in at 33 minutes and 32 seconds. But what I notice is that nearly every performance I can find online of the Rite clocks in at 33:3#. 33:31 (Barenboim), 33:35 (both Salonen and van Zweden), etc. The conductors take all different tempos but somehow it constantly ends up being nearly the exact same length. Weird, coincidence, or what?
@twinwankel
@twinwankel 7 жыл бұрын
There are passages that are played excessively fast, so fast that you can't hear the details in the instruments. Then there are passages that are very slow.... I think if you listen to enough of these performances you will get a since in your mind what would should be a natural pace but that being said, its a free performance and I enjoyed it.
@ecoRfan
@ecoRfan 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah I know I'd think there's a ton of variation in time due to all the seemingly hundreds of passages and the tempos they can be taken at, and each recording seems to mix them up differently. Yet somehow it drives me up a wall how almost all of them come out to 33 minutes and 30-something seconds. There's one RoS out there which an older Stravinsky himself conducted that was less than 32 minutes, yet that was mainly due to the slower and quieter parts being taken quickly and not drawn out. But yes, some passages can be taken too fast or too slow.
@twinwankel
@twinwankel 7 жыл бұрын
ecoRfan you have remember that's it's a ballet and you really shouldn't over drive the passages because they can't be danced to. I think most conductors will adhere to this and so you don't get much variance in overall time. But this performance treats the piece not as danceable music but a concert piece to be stretched and compressed at will. I generally like the conductor and own many recordings from him but this one is a bit unorthodox. I wouldn't pay money for it but there are interesting parts.
@ecoRfan
@ecoRfan 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah honestly this one isn't my favorite run of Rite either. Something about it seems out of balance with tempos all over the place.
@ediccartman7252
@ediccartman7252 3 жыл бұрын
@@twinwankel obviously, he conducts it much slower when it's danced. As for attention to details, it depends on your attitude - whether the detail itself is valuable for you or in conjunction with something else ( same principle as when you bake a cake). Pretty sure Gergiev likes more when it's clashed and boiling ( when it matches the music). And despite the swift tempos he always lets the instrumentalists express themselves ( ex. 19:45 - we can feel all the beauty of changing meter at this place).
@metallicafan14
@metallicafan14 11 жыл бұрын
The opening is the slow part, the rest of the song it was perfectly in tempo with the original reproductions of the nijisky ballet. Bravo!
@123must
@123must 11 жыл бұрын
Great conduction ! A lot of thanks
@kopooser
@kopooser 11 жыл бұрын
Beautiful and well paced basson solo.
@MarcusTulliusCicer
@MarcusTulliusCicer 8 жыл бұрын
I hate the audio delay
@JJBerthume
@JJBerthume 10 жыл бұрын
What did Stravinsky write in his score? Lento, quarter = 50; tempo rubato. To me this fits the bill more than any other performance I've heard. The bassoon is meant to be emulating an old Russian folk tune, very drawn out and intentional, almost a little bit strained. That's why he wrote it to be played slowly, with rubato, and with a bassoon rather than an oboe or english horn.
@ClarinetistsMusic
@ClarinetistsMusic 11 жыл бұрын
It's KZbin that messes up the synch for some videos that have a separate audio track (I had to purposely synch the audio differently from the video to get the video to synch on KZbin).
@bernkemm3935
@bernkemm3935 11 жыл бұрын
Hier braucht man Geduld und Ausdauer, aber vor allem ein musikalisch geschultes Ohr.
@afatapaa7817
@afatapaa7817 8 жыл бұрын
outstanding piece
@RoxxorzYourBoxxorz
@RoxxorzYourBoxxorz 7 жыл бұрын
Some tone color par excellence right here
@lednew2010
@lednew2010 12 жыл бұрын
Interesting substitution of 2 washboards (quasi "guirra) for the original guerro called for in the score.
@SteveCournane
@SteveCournane 3 жыл бұрын
wooden guiros not loud enough to cut through perhaps?
@gregjohnson1105
@gregjohnson1105 10 жыл бұрын
video is certainly a full second or more ahead of the music.
@peterwimsey1
@peterwimsey1 3 жыл бұрын
always surprises me that interpretations of the same work can be so very different
@stefanogiudice2062
@stefanogiudice2062 10 жыл бұрын
9.48 simply divine
@richardwilliams473
@richardwilliams473 Жыл бұрын
Nigel Thomas playing as Solo Timpanist with Antione Bedowei as 2nd timpanist
@AylaKahraman
@AylaKahraman 12 жыл бұрын
The question is not "do you like tihs music" it's "do you understand it?"
@timpy2105
@timpy2105 7 жыл бұрын
When the Tambourine came I just said "nice bass drum you have there"
@pimpastata
@pimpastata 11 жыл бұрын
05:20 Meraviglioso!
@kiminosenpou
@kiminosenpou 3 жыл бұрын
画面と音がずれてなければもっと笑えたんだけど。。。いや、すばらしい演奏です。
@phillbilly494
@phillbilly494 6 жыл бұрын
maurice murphy playing the piccolo part on the c trumpet
@jassenjj
@jassenjj 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my.... I got dizzy on the Sacrificial dance, so slow... as if time starts to stretch as on LSD... Gergiev surprises here.
@pbecquer1
@pbecquer1 10 жыл бұрын
Me gustaría saber como sincronizar el audio y vídeo de esta maravilla.
@lashapapava6008
@lashapapava6008 9 жыл бұрын
29:00 sacrificial dance
@JJBerthume
@JJBerthume 10 жыл бұрын
Besides, what is a Kiss but long and drawn out? This beginning is called "A KISS OF THE EARTH".
@jadina227
@jadina227 12 жыл бұрын
I know! He's jumping around like a punk rocker, with his hair flying everywhere! And it's no where cool, I mean seriously! He's flippin' his "bangs" all the time, and that's all the people look at! When ever they would show a shot of him, I would be dying laughing inside! X )
@untipcubreton
@untipcubreton 9 жыл бұрын
SUPREME
@Weltbevoelkerung
@Weltbevoelkerung 11 жыл бұрын
20:00, the clarinetist sitting like "Man, this is boring as hell!"^^
@CENTERONE700
@CENTERONE700 10 жыл бұрын
This music provoke the devil inside me...very demonic and instintive...
@AylaKahraman
@AylaKahraman 12 жыл бұрын
Of course, but I'm talking about those who says "Is this music?" for Stravinsky, yes it is actually music, there is a production. And you have to know something about atonality, neoclassicism and about development of music in 20th century before judging this compositor. I do like Stravinsky but not because of the sound, I like the way he uses music and his technical accomplishments.
@ShekinahSourceST1.777
@ShekinahSourceST1.777 4 жыл бұрын
"HEarT, c'est la nuit :-D " Gad Elmaleh dancing :-D
@MrFastel
@MrFastel 11 жыл бұрын
The part from 07:55 to 10:35 is so incredible...
@DrewR2010
@DrewR2010 12 жыл бұрын
Agreed! The Timpani and Drums were awfully weak in the middle!
@friendant72
@friendant72 12 жыл бұрын
great! but can you sync the audio and video?
@kopooser
@kopooser 11 жыл бұрын
Happy "Le Sacre Printemps" day to all!!
@sachadavid
@sachadavid 7 жыл бұрын
that fucking cough at 0:50
@TheTeccanina94
@TheTeccanina94 11 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me, which version is it?
@boudebond
@boudebond 11 жыл бұрын
Are you only talking about the begining cause for me the speed was perfect.
@danfriend9567
@danfriend9567 8 жыл бұрын
I didnt know Bernie Kerick played timp.
@Geniusderelict
@Geniusderelict 10 жыл бұрын
who can also hear the basson changing the position during his solo from slightly right to straight left and back at about 3:00 :D
@kediyahu
@kediyahu 5 ай бұрын
Aynı anda birden fazla saz çalınırken, başka sazın sesini duyan sazendeler, kendi sazlarını icra ederken nasıl şaşırmıyor. Çünkü sesler iç içe ve çok karmaşık. Notaları takip etmeleri de çok zor, diğer sazların seslerini takip etmeleri de...
@yarisricky
@yarisricky 8 жыл бұрын
Stupenda esecuzione! Ma potreste sincronizzare? Il video è avanti di almeno 1 sec rispetto all'audio !! Grazie
@shonnyno
@shonnyno 11 жыл бұрын
befor 3:47 is the video chunked? I guess a video problem...
@shonnyno
@shonnyno 11 жыл бұрын
14:01 is this staccato and marcato??? not at my home!
@shonnyno
@shonnyno 11 жыл бұрын
I dont find the mute in the score. whats your edition?
@shonnyno
@shonnyno 11 жыл бұрын
13:44 is it a "modern" guiro or what else???
@davidt7995
@davidt7995 8 жыл бұрын
If anyone knows the tempo this piece should be it is a Russian maestro ... those who complain, do a better job and post it here ... .
@sachadavid
@sachadavid 8 жыл бұрын
+David T what does the fact of him being russian has to do with anything ?
@serratizer
@serratizer 11 жыл бұрын
I don't know if this is just me, but I think the other recordings of Sacrificial Dance are better (ex. San Francisco - MTT - and Los Angeles - Salonen)
@artemiosandoval2032
@artemiosandoval2032 8 жыл бұрын
To me, this performance seemed a bit messy, suprising considering the LSO is a such top-tier group, he must've worked them too hard with the rehearsals. The San Francisco Symphony did a flawless job when they did this.
@MarcusHK1
@MarcusHK1 8 жыл бұрын
+Artemio Sandoval The LSO even claimed once that they were able to play the Sacre without conductor.
@nelsonsweatyballs3835
@nelsonsweatyballs3835 7 жыл бұрын
Actually, Gergiev was notorious for not showing up to rehearsals, not knowing repertoire, winging it on the night... A lesser orchestra than the LSO wouldn't have stood a chance, it's a miracle they played this well. You should hear them now with Noseda or Rattle, it's a world class sound.
@ediccartman7252
@ediccartman7252 4 жыл бұрын
@@nelsonsweatyballs3835 you forget how much times he played it in his life .This piece for him is kinda wake me up at 4 a.m. I'll play it as if I myself wrote it. And you're not right specifically about this concert - I watched the video from the rehearsal that lasted for 4(!!!) hours. And he looked very involved and explained them very patiently why he wants it like this and not the way, they used to play it.
@SilasGupta
@SilasGupta 11 жыл бұрын
Awesome performance... but waaaay to slow.
@diknodn9736
@diknodn9736 11 жыл бұрын
トロンボーンがかっこいい!
@fugchugson
@fugchugson 10 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else hear the Firebird at 19:56 in the flute?
@IggyDieu
@IggyDieu 11 жыл бұрын
03:22 What do you mean slow?
@jmwoods190
@jmwoods190 12 жыл бұрын
Why do they need 2 gongs and 2 bass drums?
@shonnyno
@shonnyno 11 жыл бұрын
24:00 patatrak!!! gambe per aria!!!
@mathieugv
@mathieugv 11 жыл бұрын
Agree, this is no slow.
@shonnyno
@shonnyno 11 жыл бұрын
19:48 Gergiev and the dictionary: what means più mosso? slower or faster? ...hard question...hehe slower or faster?.....
@arkaisk2
@arkaisk2 12 жыл бұрын
Love the precision and the concentration, but perhaps some of the maestros in the 30´s and 40´s had a point in the idea that something gets lost when you are TOO precise. The last two minutes of this piece shouldn´t sound precise, but more chaotic, terrified or whatever.
@jshaers96
@jshaers96 6 жыл бұрын
The first part was exceptional, with Gergiev pushing them hard. Too much, really, because they sounded spent in the second part and didn't have enough left in the tank.
@Trenton.D
@Trenton.D 4 жыл бұрын
It was way too fast. It's a fucking ballet.
@ediccartman7252
@ediccartman7252 3 жыл бұрын
@@Trenton.D Did you see ballet-dancers here ?
@Trenton.D
@Trenton.D 3 жыл бұрын
Vova Hrenov Stravinsky kept their tempo the same whether there were dancers or not. In all his works for ballet. So your point is?
@ediccartman7252
@ediccartman7252 3 жыл бұрын
@@Trenton.D my point is that Stravinsky had to fit his tempos to ballet-dancers . When you play it without them , you can play with tempos , to emphasize smth. that seems you really important in the score .
@shonnyno
@shonnyno 11 жыл бұрын
13 after 7: rallentando: it is Verdi or Puccini?
@asihvo
@asihvo 11 жыл бұрын
Easter music.
@shonnyno
@shonnyno 11 жыл бұрын
ehhhm why the first note is one week long? and why at the second bar thet make error regarding the meter 2 vs. triplet??
@ediccartman7252
@ediccartman7252 3 жыл бұрын
Gergiev lets soloists play their own way as long as it doesn't ruin the shape of the whole piece.
@shonnyno
@shonnyno 3 жыл бұрын
@@ediccartman7252 But Stravinsky wanted (in his interview) performance and not interpretation, that is good for Schubert. What he wrote must be rendered. Yes the first bar is "colla parte" then it is not.
@ediccartman7252
@ediccartman7252 3 жыл бұрын
@@shonnyno it also says solo ad libitum and tempo rubato . You have the rest of the score when you need to be performer and not interpreter (actually smth. what can't be done for 💯 ).
@shonnyno
@shonnyno 3 жыл бұрын
@@ediccartman7252 If he wanted anarchy (anarchy is always beautyful and...much easier), why he wrote (bar 4th) a difficult (and never good performed) triplet into a triplet into a binary bar? music for the eyes only? ;) I am glad with this anarchy, because I can play Le Sacre even with a marching band :)) so many trubles of Strav. for Free improvisations! ;) Obviously not all whay he wrote respect his point of view: a lot of final metronome number has been established by the orchestra, because S. wanted the final part of part I much more fast (even 184) than his actual printed metronome, but orchestra is orchestra; ...and pizzicatos on the very final dance (pizzicato were wonderful with oboe toghether), but it were even more difficult therefore the last revision of the score deleted all pizzicatos. In my opinion Rubato refers to agogic only, rubato never means "you are allowed to change the rhythmic pattern". 7 years ago I added other comments on this video.
@JJBerthume
@JJBerthume 10 жыл бұрын
And even more, there are two fermatas. Haha
@mencorerorg
@mencorerorg 10 жыл бұрын
Orchestra and regent name ?
@user-rt7zf9wy2d
@user-rt7zf9wy2d 6 жыл бұрын
Cоnductor name is Valeriy Gergiev
@randomprimate
@randomprimate 12 жыл бұрын
Yo that basson player has got to buy some new pads! He is clacking like hell!
@tristanraissherman
@tristanraissherman 3 жыл бұрын
audio and video arent even close
@unitednerdsbeproud
@unitednerdsbeproud 12 жыл бұрын
It's so funny to see everyone headbang at random intervals... Note to self, always sync the music with the video...
@johnkilbourne1059
@johnkilbourne1059 9 жыл бұрын
I think they synced to his conducting, not the players. It matches.
@CzechHorn79
@CzechHorn79 8 жыл бұрын
Really???
@metallicafan14
@metallicafan14 11 жыл бұрын
Typical gergiev, slow start. Then BOOM
@shonnyno
@shonnyno 11 жыл бұрын
allora la velocità dell'intro la recupera nel finale rallentando, della serie: la media delle velocità è giusta. ha riesumato i pizzicato cancellati da Stravinsky in seguito a nervoso causa orchestrali imbranati. almeno una nota positiva finale. mamma che stress questo ascolto. devo rifarmi con Bernstein perchè non posso terminare così.
@xyloplax
@xyloplax 9 жыл бұрын
Good performance, but they overtempoed it in various parts (mainly the Augers of Spring). Loses the pulse if you rush it. And it palpably feels rushed. Also you lose the many fine details you need an even pacing for your ears to fully process. At least they didn't go too slow, or that would have been vastly worse.
@rfdadmin2576
@rfdadmin2576 11 жыл бұрын
I prefer MTT's rendition, especially of the Sacrificial Dance. Valery conducts the final dance a bit too slow for me. The version I have of Stravinsky conducting himself on CD is much faster and I believe it to be the ultimate interpretation; who better than the composer?
@corinnemg
@corinnemg 12 жыл бұрын
esu fjr d ay awg
@jgxps
@jgxps 12 жыл бұрын
SO SLOW! The solo sounds painful considering how slow it is.
@shonnyno
@shonnyno 11 жыл бұрын
3:59 before: no trplet? it is better that I stop hearing, otherwise I become nervous, when 2 = 3....bye bye Valery!
@shonnyno
@shonnyno 11 жыл бұрын
bene alla fine non aveva più margini per il crescendo...capita....ce lo siamo bruciati, almeno è rimasto sulla carta dai! poi prima del finale non poteva fare uno spuntino?? il tempo che si è preso nelle pause glielo avrebbe consentito. altro dettaglio: ha diretto senza stuzzicadenti. quindi gli mancava il portafortuna. scusate devo riprendermi (mi ci vorrà molto tempo).
@OsakaJoe01
@OsakaJoe01 3 жыл бұрын
The augurs of spring part seems rather sped up... the Spring Rounds and everything after that is just about right though... the intro to the 2nd part is entirely too fast... tempo is good after that... a bit too slow after that one... clarinet trill... I must say, he does the adoration of the chosen one rather well. Overall a good performance, but not mr favorite, with some parts being too fast or too slow for my tastes.
@badartkills
@badartkills 12 жыл бұрын
I've heard probably two dozen versions of the Sacre, and Gergiev + the Mariinsky Theatre Orchestra is BY FAR the best. This LSO performance is almost offensive by comparison. The bassoonist's clicking pads at the beginning make my ears bleed! Anyhow, on the other end of the spectrum, the worst (live) performance I've ever seen was the Toronto Symphony Orchestra in Spring 2011 - it was so heinous I felt compelled to initiate an orchestral riot, but I instead just left halfway through.
@evgenyklimov6472
@evgenyklimov6472 6 жыл бұрын
15 23 вход в другое измерение
@michaelsurber1800
@michaelsurber1800 11 жыл бұрын
way too fast for me
@corinnemg
@corinnemg 12 жыл бұрын
or
@TheMauro54
@TheMauro54 11 жыл бұрын
O defeito deve ser teu que não percebes patavina
@JoeParrish
@JoeParrish 6 жыл бұрын
Not the best I ever heard, augurs is way to fast and everything else, especially the last movement, is way too slow
@jwd0808
@jwd0808 12 жыл бұрын
I like the conductor, but man he should just shave it all off already.
@genevievebauer323
@genevievebauer323 8 жыл бұрын
Dans son solo du début la (ravissante ) basonniste met un accent au beau milieu de la phrase, que je trouve inutile et malencontreux
@TheFreemanism
@TheFreemanism 12 жыл бұрын
seems fake to me...woman in the video but no kitchen around
@igorkrzeminska9230
@igorkrzeminska9230 9 жыл бұрын
Awful. So lack of working. ..
@ediccartman7252
@ediccartman7252 4 жыл бұрын
Are you sure you listened to this record ?
@yanistriaki438
@yanistriaki438 8 жыл бұрын
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