Street Photography on SURVEILLANCE film?! (POV)

In today's episode we dive deep into San Francisco with another street photography POV but this time we shoot a surveillance film called "Derev Pan 400". This film is from the good folks over at FPP and in this video I put it through it's paces to see how it could perform in a street environment. Hope you guys enjoyed the video, comment what you guys think of the film down below!
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[@KingJvpes]

Wonder what this stuff looks like pushed to 1600 🧐🙏🏽

[@koltinn]

grainy mess probably :D

[@francoisthailande2440]

You can try but i think you'll be disappointed. Actually these surveillance films are often overrated at their box speed, their real sensibility is below 400 iso ; that's why they look so contrasty and slightly underexposed when used at box speed. I've tried 800 and 1600 iso with the Rollei Retro 400s (which is also an old aerian surveillance film), the result was pretty bad, nothing i would recommend. Terrible grain, poor shades of grey and almost no details in shadow areas. I used Rodinal, so i assume it wasn't the best option for that work, a basic D76 or XTOL soup would have been better. But when it's about pushing of 2 stops a b&w film, the classical Trix and HP5, or Delta and Tmax 400, are far superior choices IMO.

[@Zetaphotography]

Is this film Rollei 400s (surveillance) rebranded

[@travispore5076]

Are you my dad?

[@ddaly20111993]

The street photography gets better and better each video you put out.

[@KingJvpes]

Dwight Daly Jr. thanks brother 🙏🏽

[@mattdayphoto]

I feel like I can see more of your personality in this video. Good stuff, man. Keep it up.

[@KingJvpes]

Matt Day Thanks Matt ❤️❤️

[@peaceandlove3822]

Love how I have seen you grow from the first videos you posted to KZbin to we’re you are now and you inspired me to buy one of my own and start shooting now I wish nothing but success on this film photography journey you have created for yourself and can’t wait to see what’s in stored for the future. Have a blessed day.

[@KingJvpes]

Oh man thank you so much! Thanks for sticking by my side all this time, it may go unnoticed but I really appreciate that.

[@craigtitusfitness2249]

Another great video, thanks John!

[@chrissoclone]

I really liked the harsh shadows and found the film quite interesting, I generally don't need to see every detail in the shadows. Sean Tucker is one of those youtube photographers who's not afraid of crushing blacks a lot and I just love his stuff. Also agree with your favorite pic.

[@Zetaphotography]

Do you have images from this film?

[@Cobjawz21]

Your frame rate during the parts where your talking in the video drops, just a heads up

[@grainydaysss]

OooOf that shot at 3:09 has got me feeling something. Solid lighting! nice work dawg

[@kodakkevin]

I don't usually like major contrast but that crushed black look made that photo more surreal and isolated I really dug that. Seeing how more hazy greys were visible in other photographs I think this stock isn't too harsh it's just about avoiding lighting with both extremes of bright and dark. Sick video man!

[@KingJvpes]

Kevin Grou ahh that sounds right, thanks Kevin! Much appreciated!

[@joed7185]

Great photos but I think the best one was at the 4:19 minute. Use of the rule of thirds and the contrast is perfect.

[@101jumpit]

Dope man ! Deep blacks and crisp whites (Y) Great contrast......... !!!!

[@Johnybulletproof]

Nice! got some at Padeai ! so ill be shooting it too . That picture looks very cool and dramatic! it was great meeting at padeai looking forward to next events .

[@KingJvpes]

Eduardo Heredia Cabuto EDUARDO! Great meeting you as well man! Looking forward to see you again soon :)

[@MinhTruong101]

I also got it at the paideia and finally developed it this weekend. At 1600 the grain is still fine and very contrasty I was using adox rodinal at 1+25....my usual dilution ratio and more grainy ration. It maybe my go to overcast...any low contrast situational film.

[@josemartinjuarezvargas8523]

I really see a ver tangible improvement in your photos through time (been watching your stuff in a constant basis). This set of images is on fire!

[@hardene8888]

The film is awesome! ... I like the results ... great great video ...

[@ericaadamczyk4307]

Okay real question have you ever taken somebody’s pic and they flipped out on you bc I feel like that would definitely happen to me lol

[@rogemonca]

Atlast!! Good stuff as always 👌

[@amosk24]

Your best video yet!

[@microbot476]

The film reminds me of the look of Rollei Retro 400s. Deep blacks and high contrast as well as a green-blue mask. I think that for such a tough negative you did quite well.

[@ShotByMatt]

We need more of these POV vids 🔥

[@KingJvpes]

Matthew Prater definitely will be more

[@andrew_ep_curtis]

I loved how underexposed these images were. Really worked. And that blacked out background on the photo with the head in hands really suited the image. I’ll ask a question I posed previously, what is the scanner you use for scanning negatives? You had it in a previous video but I couldn’t make it out.

[@W0mpa]

Epson V550 I think it was...

[@KingJvpes]

Thanks Andrew! As for the scanner I use an epson v550 with the standard scan software.

[@ElliottWatson]

love the shot at 4:46

[@Fotomaster2014]

The photos were dope man.

[@multi626style]

yo just wondering where do you place your GoPro on yourself while doing your POV shots?

[@markcort1670]

I loved the finished product. Please upload the videos of when you shoot more rolls please. 🤟

[@thedondeluxe6941]

I like it! Sorta reminds me of the JCH street pan. Those old surveillance film stocks often have super high contrast. Would love to see it pushed to 1600. Also, if that was Hulk pissing, the T-Max 3200 is Thanos pissing. Hahaha :-)

[@JesusMartinezCreates]

Yo! I know that awkward feeling when it comes to vloging around people staring😅 loved the video man! Great photos! Those blacks looked dope!

[@_joka9]

StreetCandy ATM400 is crazy nice too! Also a surveillance film :D

[@KingJvpes]

_joka Goya get some John!

[@Zetaphotography]

Where is all this rebranded film coming from

[@filmbyhari]

Hey dude, great video as usual! My fav image was at 3:55. By the way, did you predominantly zone focus for these shots?

[@KingJvpes]

You got it man, most were some focused

[@srad.]

I dig it. Also love the compositions you choose 👌

[@GaetanCormier]

Those russian film emulsions are often contrasty, totally dig this!

[@SharpObjectsXD]

Great video! I've been looking forward to this video for a while now. In regards to your exposure, I shoot SF regularly on HP5+ and I can recommend metering for shadows not the highlights. Ansel Adams' book "The Negative" really helped me out on visualizing exposure with the zone system. Once you study and practice it, it is an easy concept to grasp. There is a 4-5 stop difference between bright sunlight and those cast shadows. Since most of the city is covered in tall buildings you will lose 2-3 stops of information from the sunny 16 rule. Film wont crush the highlights, so you are free to compensate overexposure by many many stops. Film today is extremely flexible too. I've read that HCB often set his camera to f/8, 1/125s and never changed it... Anyway, Cheers. Keep up the good work. See you around ;)

[@KingJvpes]

SharpObjectsXD This is a gold mine of information man! Thank you, also hope to see you out on the street :)

[@SharpObjectsXD]

@@KingJvpes Thanks, glad to help.

[@BigTeddy-om5em]

Its been a while bro! Nice to see you back! Love

[@KingJvpes]

BigTeddy 2700 haha what’s up ted!

[@MurphysFilm]

KingJvpes "The Hulk Taking a Piss" Love it haha and the film looks interesting

[@KingJvpes]

Murphys Film 😭😂😂 thanks Garthy!!

[@JoeLopez]

Well done, great snaps!

[@ludwigp7571]

4:20 (coincidence?) favortie picture by far!

[@fotojobo]

If you were shooting sunny 16 and not adjusting when you shot in the shadows then yes some of your photos are underexposed in the shadows…but there’s nothing wrong with that if you like what it looks like. I agree you should get a couple more rolls of this film and test it using proper metered scenes. Peace

[@danielxrodriguez]

What developer did you use and what was your dev time?

[@genterasaki86]

I’ve actually wanted to try this for the longest time, thanks for sharing man !! #Minoltagang

[@KingJvpes]

GDrift 🙏🏽 yessir, it’s my pleasure

[@genterasaki86]

KingJvpes ✌️

[@doplinger1]

Great results, looks good! I’d love to hear you as a guest on FPP sometime!

[@aristoioannidis7490]

Hey KJ. No doubt SF is a photographers paradise. The Derev Pan400 is worth a try.

[@btrdangerdan2010]

I saw in that photo you took of the guy sitting and slouching over there is a lot of detail lost in the shadow of the building. I guess it doesn’t handle shadows very well.

[@FramesPerSecond]

Sun and D-970 seems to be a common trait with surveillance films.

[@btrdangerdan2010]

Yeah you are right.

[@gonzalocervero5492]

Wonderful b&n! Very nice.

[@beaupfeifferrecordings]

that green wash is weird for 35mm film its generally in 120 film good pics brother looks like a quality film ill keep march 15th in mind

[@Dre_On_Film]

Ay new Fuego alert🔥

[@mp3remix171]

damn really loved the shots and also the look of the film!

[@ColinBloodworth]

This is some good stuff, dude. It really crushes the blacks. Very dramatic feel.

[@ralphcedricbasco278]

4:52 lol. I do the same sometimes. I stop people because I like their camera

[@JDubyafoto]

Good to see you back! I was starting to wonder if you'd run off to Lala Land or something. Great images on this run! i really like the high contrast of that film. I would guess the exposure latitude of that film is pretty narrow based on the resulting images. They look like they're properly exposed to me...just high contrast. #johngang

[@KingJvpes]

John Wilkinson Haha Hey John! Just got back from lalaland actually and yea I feel like it has that deep contrast. The image of the gentlemen in the suit walking on the phone was underexposed, came out pretty meh haha

[@WaywardAce]

Looked pretty good .... Poor man's JCH maybe .... Along with metering it .... How about trying another roll through the Leica pushed to 1600 with a baseline metering of 1/1000 f16, just to have a little bit of built in overexposure.

[@IncendiaHL]

Soooo did you ever get around to doing a review on this film?

[@mike_yphoto6692]

These POV videos are nooyycc!!!

[@KingJvpes]

Mike_y Photo thanks Moike!! 😂🙏🏽

[@mike_yphoto6692]

KingJvpes 😄👍🏼

[@JonathanVegas1]

I’d like to see you shoot it as it was meant. Ariel

[@woolslayer49]

Seem like you were A bit off your game but I enjoyed the comedy portion although I don't think you were going for that. Anyway I'm not sure about the film yet I may or may not pick up some I just may wait until u finish experimenting with it.

[@aipepero8090]

Me be like FINALLY!!!!

[@enanosiniestro]

Nice work!

[@vangstr]

Usually aero film has little to no tonal range. Just like JCH 400. Blacks and shadows get get crushed easily giving no details. It's probably a better and cheaper alternative to that expensive JCH 400.

[@JonathanVegas1]

You should take pictures from a skyscraper and compare it with HP5

[@EduardoRomero1965]

Great video, great street photography! Any chance you could upload these shots to your blog?

[@KingJvpes]

Eduardo Romero most definitely

[@arugwa]

Cool :)

[@pritush]

Any thoughts on shooting Washi films !!

[@FramesPerSecond]

P M I’ll have some videos on those coming soon. Shot their W, S & F films. Just need to develop them and then edit the videos😉

[@Noealz]

well that's something I never heard about

[@joshuaortiz1069]

yo i just developed some hp5 120 for the first time yesterday and I had that same green layer I was like wtf!!

[@anddestroy]

Whoa the blacks on that film are so dark it's so sick

[@SnarfUrFlatFace]

can i get some of this surveillance film??

[@joshuaortiz1069]

I probably won't use that film I didn't like how it went overboard on the blacks!

[@Zetaphotography]

No details in thus video. We don't have the film to scan ourselves. At $5.99 a roll. Just buy and test

[@maconbauer9666]

a bit underexposed but I am still enjoying the videos!

[@brodrickbanks9556]

love the fuckin film!!!!

[@kenx.227]

are u practicing hyperfocale?

[@jjes4103]

Anyone else get stutter in the video? Not sure if it was intentional or there's something wrong on my end

[@thisolddog]

anyone else watching this in their underwear?

[@zxidy]

I want a mju 2 but I don’t want pay the price. There’s no thrift shops where I live 💀

[@jackw7666]

thrifts everywhere b, even my little village in the north of england has gems in charity shops

[@zxidy]

Jack W nothing in Cardiff bro but I’ll keep looking

[@jackw7666]

zxidy i thrift most days because i sell a lot for extra money, you really need to go in a lot to find things that are decent, just once every few weeks makes it really hard to find stuff

[@muktedir35]

⚡️🤘🏽🇹🇷🇩🇪

[@lemon58421]

that's bad! throwing your product in the sink! Not very ecological!! :-(