What changes would you make to the list IF YOU HAVE COMP EXPERIENCE?
@gnarkilleptic48714 күн бұрын
I agree with pretty much the whole list except for the Polehammer. I think it belongs in at least the A tier. I would put it S
@JGIIFishing6 күн бұрын
Bruh, flaming chicken FTW. That is all.
@StridahsAngels6 күн бұрын
Counter 200!
@GoldBrady6 күн бұрын
One can’t deny Siege Crossbow is nice for taking out hard to reach ballistas or shooting through the barricades at the VIPs
@BigOleJarOfDirt5 күн бұрын
Siege Crossbow was built for 2nd Phase Montcrux, 1st Phase Stronghold, and just general banner suppression.
@GoldBrady5 күн бұрын
@@BigOleJarOfDirtIt’s built for anything that involves a ballista imo. Even on Dark Forest it can help remove catapults from a distance (though it does take quite a few arrows)
@carrolloutdoors4764Күн бұрын
Repect for putting longsword in the a tier. I agree that 1-2 years ago it was used a lot more. In the beginning it was all i used. I will say that a stray longsword user can really mess up anyone, though. I think it really shines in letting its user make mistakes and recover quickly.
@pete48285 күн бұрын
As a member of pole-axe cult I appreciated your thoughts about our beloved. Maybe it would be in A tier
@StridahsAngels4 күн бұрын
❤️
@UndisturbedMonk5 күн бұрын
Barrel is the ultimate 2 handed weapon
@StridahsAngels5 күн бұрын
❤️
@Dorin_Azril5 күн бұрын
Poleaxe is a hidden gem, it's like a swiss army knife.
@StridahsAngels5 күн бұрын
Facts
@Winchestertonfieldsville4 күн бұрын
I wish it still had the leaping strike sprint special 😢
@TheGuyThatEnjoysArgumentsКүн бұрын
@@WinchestertonfieldsvilleYou can do that with Vanguard, if you pick up a poleaxe I believe
@WinchestertonfieldsvilleКүн бұрын
@TheGuyThatEnjoysArguments Yeap. And most the other 2hs's. The poleaxe one was like a unique leap with little extra added distance, plus that armorrrr
@WinchestertonfieldsvilleКүн бұрын
@@TheGuyThatEnjoysArguments 5 min mark in ziggy's "poleaxe guide video"
@tkZombie_Күн бұрын
keen for 1H list. thanks man
@StridahsAngels14 сағат бұрын
You got it!
@Kampfpanzer-Luchs4 күн бұрын
Heavy mace my beloved Im now lvl 87 and have mained knight with greatsword then switch too footman with ligh shield and sword then i used the rapier and now ive tryd the heavy mace and im waay better than before and the weapon is a dream.
@Keeve56 күн бұрын
Could you do a throwables tier list? I love launching barrels and getting kills on unsuspecting enemies.
@StridahsAngels5 күн бұрын
I don’t participate in tossing maybe emperor bubble will
@A.Llama115 күн бұрын
The only thing I would change is maybe moving the war club into A tier. I think with how long it is + how fast the accels are you can play it kind of like a spear and just gamble over and over again from behind your team mates and be pretty safe. Otherwise, everything else seems accurate
@StridahsAngels4 күн бұрын
❤️
@SeasickKhan6 күн бұрын
Without a doubt some of my all time favorite moments ever gaming is playing chiv with my fellow Angels and friends!
@StridahsAngels6 күн бұрын
Khannnn
@SeasickKhan5 күн бұрын
@@StridahsAngelsI’ll remember our Angel events when I’m 80 yelling at the neighborhood kids to get off my grass!🤣
@Tony-cc2it5 күн бұрын
archer as a VIP person is your nightmare
@StridahsAngels5 күн бұрын
It’s a free kill
@cdxx79023 күн бұрын
Your channel helped me out a lot for chivalry
@StridahsAngels3 күн бұрын
Glad to help!!
@perchperkinshere44765 күн бұрын
Unironically the glaive is probably A tier in 1v1s specifically. The speed and range are just so good if you have your spacing down. It can be just as good as the TH spear
@StridahsAngels5 күн бұрын
I’ll have to see if anyone went Glaive in trial by blood.
@SauceCodes.5 күн бұрын
@@StridahsAngels they used the Rapier instead
@crazyfrog69815 күн бұрын
I got 2.3 kd on warbow tho people are sleeping on it. 1 hit archers unless overhealed which can be dealed with via a headshot or fire arrows, 2 hit vanguards, 3 on footman and 3 on knights. If you hit headshots its just 1.5-2 hits for those two and the only thing they can do is counter which they aint hittin
@StridahsAngels5 күн бұрын
Bro flexed war bow kda… in pubs 😂
@SauceCodes.5 күн бұрын
Bro is literally bragging about his kd as an archer 😂
@whiteguyomg16014 күн бұрын
@crazyfrog6981 i love the war bow it is slept on but it's really a "depends on senerio" type deal mainly when it's all skilled players in one lobby.
@Knight812343 күн бұрын
W tier list. Yeah Highland Sword may not be top tier against high level players, but it does easily mop up these bot lobbies that I keep getting put into
@SeasickKhan6 күн бұрын
The Champ has spoken! Angel Squad!!!
@nobleinexile42966 күн бұрын
I love Chiv, it's been an amazing Trip. 2 years ago, almost level 1000 now. Love from KRUMP brother!
@frannydai6 күн бұрын
Solid placement! I would still put Longsword in S Tier because the speed makes it really good at 1vX and ripostes, while the damage is still decent enough. Also, every attack type is solid. Heavy Mace is great but lacks the same 1vX ability as other weapons in S tier, plus you need to use heavy cleave to hit multiple targets, and it doesn't have the same reach as other weapons in the tier. I would put it in A Tier. War Club can be really oppressive in 1v1, but agreed that it's not great at 1vX so the ranking makes sense. Laughed at archer weapons in trash tier.
@StridahsAngels6 күн бұрын
Heavy mace is pretty much consensus top tier amongst the comp
@yesyesy87936 күн бұрын
Having cleave-through is irrelevant in high level lobbies since players will counter your attacks anyway. Hitstop can also work to your advantage in many scenarios because you get to combo or block another incoming attack much sooner after you hit someone and don't have to wait for the animation to finish. I would argue that it's better to have hit-stop weapon like hmace than a cleave-through weapon in 1vX situations against really good players because of the fact you get to combo so much sooner, but only against seasoned players. I've played both 10v10 and 32v32 comp matches and i would still put heavy mace in S tier. Fighting more than 3 good players at once is usually a death sentence anyway. Battle axe should be low s-tier as well in my opinion, simply because you can practically 2 shot any class in the game and it does soo much damage and stam drain, and currently it reigns supreme over other 2 handed weapons in the duel meta, but i understand this is a TO list so A-tier is understandable.
@frannydai6 күн бұрын
@@yesyesy8793 Good points. Battle axe hits like a truck and the riposte and combo speed is surprisingly fast, but I've gotta agree that it lacks the reach of some of the other axes. It destroys in 1v1 and maybe 1v2 but everyone has to be relatively close.
@randomfatkidonyoutube14006 күн бұрын
Random questions where do you get the icons for the weapons
@Schizonibba5 күн бұрын
Not really. Heavy mace has infamous counter frames when heavy slashing. You can catch off-guard some enemies in 1vX scenarios and come out scott free. Plus better stamina damage negation
@PunchPunchPunchPunch6 күн бұрын
22:50 I WILL NOT ACCEPT THE SIEGE CROSSBOW SLANDER! BEST WEAPON IN THE WORLD!!! (The best use I found for the Siege Crossbow is to break banners and engi walls, along with shooting people through siege weapons. It isn't good at killing people on the front, but great against what usually helps teams win in pubs, siege weapons and constructibles).
@PunchPunchPunchPunch6 күн бұрын
Also although katars are in the 1 handed category, I'd put them in 2 handed (As although you can wear a shield with them, you cannot equip the shield and katars at the same time), and not rank them well lol. Fun weapons, but not viable unless you want to play at a disadvantage. Still really fun tho
@pete48285 күн бұрын
It takes 3 shots to destroy a single ballista and 6 shots(im not sure) for catapults. Reloading and firing that thing takes too much time man dont get me wrong
@PunchPunchPunchPunch5 күн бұрын
@@pete4828 A rather under looked aspect of the crossbow is the penetration, which is a good deterrent from stopping people from using the things as you break them. It does take a lot of time to break them, but wasting time with your bow is a much better trade with time wasted not using the siege weapons.
@pete48284 күн бұрын
@@PunchPunchPunchPunch yeah it’s true but I find siege crossbow very situational. Besides breaking siege weapons, I don’t think using it to destroy barricades and banners are effective way
@gffrycole12 сағат бұрын
Woah. Relax, archer....
@BigOleJarOfDirt5 күн бұрын
Mad disrespect for the Siege Crossbow. Banner suppression and siege weapon suppression are the most helpful things an archer can do for the their team, on the correct map and phase. Longbow chip damage also holds similar value to the War Bow damage. Longbow generates a lot more takedowns than the War Bow. While it doesn't have the same damage potential, Longbow stands maybe a half step below the War Bow.
@StridahsAngels5 күн бұрын
We talking about chip damage…. 😂
@BigOleJarOfDirt5 күн бұрын
@StridahsAngels Ayo, a takedown is a takedown. 😂
@-Bile-5 күн бұрын
Yet another set of stinky takes from stinkah's angels, as expected. Any chiv player worth their salt knows the best weapon is the friends we made along the way.
@StridahsAngels5 күн бұрын
I refuse to believe you made friends
@-Bile-Күн бұрын
@@StridahsAngels I couldnt believe it at first, either.
@randomfatkidonyoutube14005 күн бұрын
Where do you get the icons for your tier list
@StridahsAngels5 күн бұрын
No clue template on google
@АнтонКузнецов-х8жКүн бұрын
25 gigachads and 5 archers are better than 30 gigachads. I have not seen a duelist with 4,000 hours of play kill me when I put the 3rd bolt at him from 30 meters. But I have seen that if you consistently choose strong duelists on the enemy team as a barrier, a victory notification appears. You choose the strongest ones and shoot at them. It's simple. They move differently and choose directions carefully. Their logic is simple: kill trash. They avoid strong players on your team. Strong players on your team don't need help, they trample trash on the enemy. The shooter's job is to reset 4,000 hours of enemy experience. Shooting in this game is a great equalizer. I don't need a big name to put 2-3 shells into you. You won't remember me because I won't be top 1. I'll be top 5 and my team will win. Shooters are annoying because they are the great equalizers. Good shooters are few and far between and you're unlikely to remember them.
@StridahsAngelsКүн бұрын
Never played comp have you?
@StridahsAngels14 сағат бұрын
Now that I have time this comment fails so hard. I clearly state the list is based more around clan battles, tournament grounds or more serious events. And by the comment I can tell you have never played in any of these events. If one team goes 5 archers it is a free win for the other team, going 1 archer is considered throwing. You may like archer but it has been proven over 3 years to be competitively not viable.
@АнтонКузнецов-х8ж14 сағат бұрын
@@StridahsAngels You are right. As for melee 2 handers weapons, I have exactly the same preferences as in this tier list. Maybe that's why I got confused. I really thought that this list was suitable for a regular game. I have the same thoughts 1 in 1. Except that I take a glaive to the hammer, in case I get stuck on the vanguard, so that I can sweep it like a broom and leave the battle. But I'm not sure that it will work against even average good players. But she's funny. I played in tournaments in the first part of Chivalry, in Modhau, and Pirates Knights and Vikings 2, a long time ago. I wrote specifically about a quick game for 64 people without horses. With horses, an archer is probably good simply because he has stakes, but the infantryman has them too. The tier list was originally positioned taking into account the game against good players, as I understand it. In a quick game, when a tournament guy like you shows up, the best decision for me is to take a shooter, otherwise we lose. Usually, a tournament player also gets a VIP. Can you imagine my face when I try to break through this guy, with all his buffs? It's easier to shoot him. In tournaments, or clan servers, I don't really understand how the economy works. But judging by the limitation on spearmen and halberdiers, I can assume that they should be the target of shooters. Since they are in short supply. I don't know the conditions of your serious games. Are there catapults, special abilities, and what happens there in general.
@BroadfieldbouncearoundКүн бұрын
Drop a 1 handed tier list
@StridahsAngelsКүн бұрын
Before months end
@michaeldsantosa68265 күн бұрын
Ive been on a halberd kick for over a couple months and idk if i can go back to longsword even though ive went god mode with it the halberd is just so damn fun
@natison15 күн бұрын
Which is the best for 1vx in TO ?
@StridahsAngels5 күн бұрын
Exe, messer, gs
@Ocoro_5 күн бұрын
Depends on your playstyle, but longer ranged weapons who have a faster charge up phase are better (Glaive for example, I'm not saying it's good, but it does fit the criteria)
@chrismartinez56436 күн бұрын
I haven't been playing against bad people its just my team who's bad lmao😂
@StridahsAngels6 күн бұрын
You know what they say if you not against the bots, you one of the bots!
@chrismartinez56436 күн бұрын
@@StridahsAngels i guess so because I can get kills just till you run into a clan who stick together and jump your ass
@Curse_you_BAYLEКүн бұрын
I still feel like poleaxe should’ve got s tear but it’s ok Do bear in mind I am no filthy casual
@GraphicFrost2 күн бұрын
Long Sword S tier damage is lower though. War Axe is probably the best weapon in TO, Halberd A tier its far from goated. Heavy Mace in 1v1 is A tier and is top 2 for B tier in TO. I have a friend that is always top 5 with crossbow it's wild and bows are OP if you know what to do. War Club is A tier it shits on people but once the lobbies dwindle it's not as great in 1v1 scenarios imo 2 Handed Hammer is better in many scenarios. Dane Axe is the Messer of Axes in good hands its as good as any weapon out there. Two handed spear is goated but only in good hands.
@Estu-Prayoga5 күн бұрын
messer is my best stuff, weird animation, insane dmg,can handle if you got gangbang. Love messer!
@pad96985 күн бұрын
All of A tier, aside from Longsword, needs to be moved to S. Take exe out of S.
@StridahsAngels5 күн бұрын
Exe is best axe
@Swagmar5 күн бұрын
why is my soy boy weapon not in S 🤨
@StridahsAngels5 күн бұрын
I was going to include your strap on in the one hand list
@yarnickgoovaerts5 күн бұрын
Why does everyone butcher the pronunciation of goedendag so hard? I have American friends who can pronounce it no problem
@StridahsAngels5 күн бұрын
No American exists who can say that word
@yarnickgoovaerts5 күн бұрын
@@StridahsAngels yes they do. My friend who’s American can pronounce it pretty well. I think it’s more that you don’t know how to pronounce instead of you being simply incapable of it (this regards to most Americans, I don’t mean to make it personal)
@tracestauble5 күн бұрын
Am I stupid, or did he miss the goedendag
@StridahsAngels5 күн бұрын
I mentions. It, no icon
@shadowinversionКүн бұрын
Tier A longsword yeah yeah
@whiteguyomg16015 күн бұрын
Don't care what anyone says people who know how to use the bow will help a team so hard since they can focus people dropping health which give the people hit 2 options push and die or retreat and heal either way you remove people from the fight attacking or defending.
@StridahsAngels5 күн бұрын
Close minded, it is competitively not viable and been proven through the games 3 years.
@helpiamsuffering6035 күн бұрын
i feel like if you just used a sword or whatever it would make a greater impact than shooting enemies. but then again u don’t care
@whiteguyomg16014 күн бұрын
@helpiamsuffering603 i only don't since it just depends on what's going on there's some parts where a bow would get you clapped but the parts where a bow will piss off the other team and hold them back or get them off the OBJ why not use all your tools instead of just having caveman brain and stick to one thing
@helpiamsuffering6034 күн бұрын
@@whiteguyomg1601 because archers are typically useless. I don’t know if i’ve ever been held off by a bow from objective. like if an archer just kills me i’ll just run by him, one tap him and go back to objective. Bow is so stupid easy tho so i get your point, ive gone like 30+ kills no deaths just backlining noobs
@whiteguyomg16014 күн бұрын
@StridahsAngels only closed minded because it depends how it's being used and the part of the map you are on its gonna be pretty useless in some areas but even you said there's a few out there who can put in work with a bow plus I was always told bows and cross bow was banned from comp so I never really cared for it
@Ck_Z33SLAMMIN5 күн бұрын
Ex ax 4 life 🗿
@StridahsAngels5 күн бұрын
Facts
@lorcanherdman52025 күн бұрын
Goedendag was too strong for the list
@BigRiffsRigs5 күн бұрын
Battle Axe is S+. Putting heavy mace above battle axe for TO is laughable. These are not accurate rankings
@StridahsAngels4 күн бұрын
This might be the worst take on here. Heavy mace is one of the most meta and used weapons in comp chiv TO. Assuming you have never played anything but match making?
@BigRiffsRigs4 күн бұрын
@@StridahsAngels Heavy Mace is hit stop. I top score in OCE most matches, don't play too much TO now because it's too easy. I prefer HM for duels, it's mid for TO.
@StridahsAngels4 күн бұрын
@@BigRiffsRigsso you have only played pub TO, no clan vs clan or comp events, tournament grounds etc. but are arguing based on something you have no knowledge or experience in. I know the competitive meta from experience. Heavy mace is one of the most meta comp picks period. Battle axe is great but more niche in these lobbies. The comp experience is vastly different then killing shitters in pubs.
@BigRiffsRigs4 күн бұрын
@@StridahsAngels I played comp TO and top scored or top 3 in almost every match. Played in tourneys, am in a clan etc.
@Ctrekoz5 күн бұрын
Archer hate is lame. It's a great support class, especially crossbowmen with their banner (literally nobody else but guardian has it), and even in melee with shortsword/axe/hatchet due to speed/low team kill potential/good damage (best to hit already preoccupied enemies than 1x1 obviously). There is nothing great about halberd/any other weapon noobs feeding counters/teamkilling/blocking your way/whatever bs either.
@StridahsAngels5 күн бұрын
You have ever played a comp chiv event? Thought so….
@Ocoro_5 күн бұрын
Archers talking about team killing is like ambusher mains complaining about getting back stabbed
@Ctrekoz5 күн бұрын
@@StridahsAngels I was talking about casual lobbies indeed. About competitive scene I can take your opinion over mine. Nonetheless, I am against "muh archers ruin the game they don't deserve to exist".
@Ctrekoz5 күн бұрын
@@Ocoro_ I wasn't complaining. I've said archer has low tk potential in melee when he joins it, which is great for supporting.
@StridahsAngels5 күн бұрын
@@Ctrekoz i clearly stated i am talking about more competitive environments, and archer is not viable in them.
@seanysalami6 күн бұрын
Stridah from wish is definitely stealing calling the glaive death by a thousand paper cuts! Thank you for more things i can steal 🫡
@StridahsAngels6 күн бұрын
Salami with his note book writing his tier list that is the same as mine 😂
@ryanglover72995 күн бұрын
you 2 should live stream a first to 10 duel. I would watch!
@MrBluntafterblunt5 күн бұрын
I play archer most of the time. I'm usually middle to top tiers score of my team with a positive K/D and in general 30 to 40 takedowns. Am i considered a liability ?
@frank-lo6fg5 күн бұрын
Yes
@Ctrekoz5 күн бұрын
Just ignore this stupid archer hate "meme". It's a great support class, especially crossbowmen with their banner (literally nobody else but guardian has it), and even in melee with shortsword/axe/hatchet due to speed/low team kill potential/good damage (best to hit already preoccupied enemies than 1x1 obviously). There is nothing great about halberd/any other weapon noobs feeding counters/teamkilling/blocking your way/whatever bs either.
@MrBluntafterblunt5 күн бұрын
@@Ctrekoz cheers bro ! Forgot to add I'm fairly new with 10hours of play time.
@yarnickgoovaerts5 күн бұрын
How dare you use bows in a medieval fight game? Jk, I actually like playing archer from time to time. I guess it’s just high level players who get angry that they can’t stomp you like they stomp half the lobby and everyone else agrees with them because they’re high levels
@StridahsAngels5 күн бұрын
Yes, again the list is based more from a competitive viability. You would go 3-25 in a real lobby.