Kill, Shigekix, Pocket vs Skill Methodz | Silverback Open 2015 | UDEFtour.org x Strife | Top 32

Winner:
Skill Methodz
Luigi, Venum, FleaRock
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[@sifuone]

Kill won the last round....I'm all for flavor but damn those 3 90's killed it. Fun intended.

[@Dubsys]

idk how kill, shigekix and pocket didn't win this one for real, luigis tiebreaker was so damn weak

[@cheenou100]

+Dub sys At the end. Kill didn't land his airbaby clean, and lost a point. That's why Skill Methodz took it.

[@NEXXXXXT1]

+Dub sys Pockets and Kills Toprocks of course xD

[@mohamedalikhlifi9772]

+Dub sys don't tell me u are a bboy

[@GunBlade666]

+Cheenou Vang well by that logic luigi should have lost his team several points with his first set crashing even on his footwork, skill methods were good but not near kill,shikegix,and pockets lvl

[@kenyonr]

+Dub sys They lost because Kill ran his entire set the previous day. Did he think no one would remember?

[@forstudying9310]

Uh....what? Shigekix & kill doesn't won the tiebreak?

[@bboydrae]

Major crash at 3:01. The whole set was full of crashes.

[@BrianPikinMercado]

+bboydrae ya Luigi lost the control like on 2010 against Knuckleheads-cali

[@angelocal5844]

+bboydrae Shit, I wonder what happened, that was really hard to watch. Maybe he got dizzy idk

[@aneh1_yj]

+angelocal honestly, judging how he landed, he probably knocked the wind out of himself

[@bboydrae]

+Cypher402 sure thing tough guy... Lol!!!!

[@bboydrae]

+Cypher402 Same goes for you, if you're ever in LA.

[@snixsnipe]

Robbed. I don't care what anyone says, Shigekix won his round and Luigi lost just for crashing so many times. Score Kill's round either way, it doesn't matter. Tie breaker was unnecessary, and they know it. Robbed.

[@thelongstory6395]

+Michael Niven Okay, then let's say that Kill's round is even and Shigekix loses his round. Then we can work out that Pocket lost his round, hence the tiebreaker. I'm not for tiebreakers, but the decision for a tie isn't so ridiculous that I can't understand it.

[@Gerrrden]

But they lost tho.

[@Kenjips3]

+The Long Story lol we dont fuckin care, kill should have won

[@That0therG]

+Michael Niven 8 crashes by luigi and skill method still won...

[@respinoza89]

It's not like it used to be right? Now its who is most popular who wins, not who is better.

[@BBoyBraizo]

FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK THAT KILL'S 90S SPIN WAS JUST SICK

[@LawkSam]

Few things I'd like to say: - Flea Rock showed the absolute essence of what a bboy is all about. - Luigi is one of the illest bboys out there, but he crashed about everything he tried to do. - Korea/Japan should've won this. I just feel like Luigi's crashes and sloppiness outweighs his crew's performance, while Korean/Japan was consistent throughout the battle.

[@jordangales4285]

LawkSam Thats facts. Wanna be friends?

[@meltednostrilsbornwithoutn781]

Essence of a b boy ? Lol. All he does is mock people.... But his skill set can't back up his arrogance. Just relies in imitating old school style.

[@thanhhung8438]

@@meltednostrilsbornwithoutn781 long time ago Steadyrock crew has made a poster that said breaking is a war-like dance style and make ur opponent look bad. That is why burn is so important and flearock rocked it.

[@meltednostrilsbornwithoutn781]

@@thanhhung8438 and ? Who cares, anybody can do burns . But you have to back it up with skill level.

[@thanhhung8438]

@@meltednostrilsbornwithoutn781 of course anybody can do burn. But how you phrase the burns to deliver context, meaning and battle attitude . Plus it is a part of culture and thats why lawksaw said flea is essence of a bboy. Skill is important but not always about the difficult moves, there are forms, creativity, concept, musicality too right?

[@GandaLataTv]

i love luigi but he crashed so many times in the first set..and they gave a tie break -.-

[@hoangthuhuynh6454]

5:20 Shigekix went out and the MC said : " Korea". Keep it up for the MC

[@DavidMey83]

First of all idk how it even got to a tie breaker let alone SM winning it??!!

[@atthaero2382]

That spin is just flawless!!! 07:08 What an AMAZING battle! :)

[@BlaneNostalgia]

Kill, pocket & Shigekix were robbed, too many crashes from Skill Methodz. Disliked.

[@Enforcer901]

It is time to not let the "old school" bboys judge anymore. I'm all in supporting them, but when decision like this are made all the time in US events its just not worth it anymore.

[@stinglerder7845]

+Not Another Channel Name at first i think it shouldnt be judges from the land where one team comes from. the "old school" bboys can be judges as well in my opinion but they should know the new stuff. so if an old judge knows the new stuff, the old stuff, can feel the 'spirit' and motivation of the dancer and so on he can still judge in my opinion, but wtf why won skill methodz ?!

[@khonghmong15]

couldn't agree more, just started to bboy again about 2 years ago, and seeing all the favorites the judge give to others is just childish

[@omegaweapon116]

Honestly, I think most bboy competitions are a joke. I just like to dance for the love of it. I'll take battling in a cypher over this.

[@jspright5226]

Power moves are original too uknow. Originality means somein fresh n new, I'm pretty sure kill, etc showed originality through their moves, esp the Japanese bboy. And these power move boys also showed musicality in their moves, top rock and footwork doesn't always equal to musicality and style.

[@tenzinggt2921]

Never seen anyone break with a dress shirt on. Lol Great battle. Love how Shegikix at his age can show both respect and throw mad shade at the same time. Very tactical not sending pocket out for the tie breaker. Kill’s team took the tie breaker for me. Unfortunately, extremely jaded with how biased judging affects many bboy tourneys in general. Not surprised at all. Feel bad for competitors that put so much into their art and then travel across the country only to find themselves facing an uphill battle.

[@dhk6663]

Kill said ' 기주야(pocket) 내가 나가서 춤춰도 되겠니?' Kill's move best but judges fuck. Kill은 완벽했지만 심사가 문제다. + Pocket이 나가서 확실히 그 라운드를 가져왔으면 좋았겠다. 라는 인터뷰를 했음.

[@Kanklesisgod]

First we need to stop having oldschool bboys judge battles like this. No disrespect but they aren't up to date with new shit transitions moves styles etc. You need only pro level bboys judging big battles I'm sorry. Mc's need to stop talking shit/criticizing on mic, keep your mouth shut that's why i hate crazylegs in uk championships. Stop talking shit. Last, flea rock was crashing non stop. Come on

[@bboyandros1665]

+Kanklesisgod "First we need to stop having oldschool bboys judge battles like this. No disrespect but they aren't up to date with new shit transitions moves styles etc. You need only pro level bboys judging big battles I'm sorry" Okay. I see your point, but that was a little stupid. The right thing would be a complete bboy, no need to be a new school bboy, old school bboys know the essence and foundation, powermoevs too. What makes me cringe is seeing bboys commenting like "yo Kill won he did the dopest and hardest moves" it's not about what what you do, but how you do, it's a dance. Nothing against Kill, massive respect cause he is mad fucking dope, and i agree that Shigekix, Pocket and Kill won but saying that old school bboys don't know shit is absolutely stupid.

[@adrynori]

tie break? and skill methodz win ? LOL

[@CarlitosPR94]

I don't mind Skill Methodz winning this but I honestly think they lost that tie breaker Especially with Luigis tie breaker round was weak

[@BoomHayer]

Kill, Shigekix, Pocket was much better, they are winner!

[@F145h1]

Typical American Judges, always support the home team! Shigekix isn't korean he's Japanese!

[@F145h1]

Kaï MSQ You trying to say Pocket, Shigekix and Kill lost this because their opponents were better no chance?

[@candiedsean]

+Kaï MSQ The fact that you think that your opinion is much more credible than his means you have a lot to learn about life.

[@candiedsean]

You're telling me that these Korean bboys who are international winners in so many battles are WORSE than Skill Methodz simply because they lost 1 battle? You're telling me you know why the judges voted the way they do? If not than you probably shouldn't tell anyone who is worse or not.

[@mabalavre852]

+Kaï MSQ you talk about american bboys having fresh sets, which is false because Kid david is one of the most repetative bboy in the game, you know for sure that he will go into jackhammers in all of his sets. And SKMZ sets are pretty much the same as pre 2008 except for luigi who pretty much is the only one who is creative enough in that crew(besides cloud) to create new stuff from time to time. BTW i´m not saying SKMZ suck or anything like that what im trying to say is that american bboys are very hypocritical when it comes to originality/freshness and style. They act as if they are dope as fuck when in reality the rest of the world has taken bboying over and american bboys are left behind stagnating and become more and more irrelevant except for the 5%(vicious victor,gravity, moy etc......)

[@mabalavre852]

+Kaï MSQ Yes comparing to kills vast arsenal of moves that he uses and kid davids 5 moves and maybe 3 freezes that he repeats by mixing in footwork and the same toprock then yes kid david is more repetitive then kill,pocket and shigekix. what makes kid david dope is his style and musicality not his "vast array of moves" that is why he did not go any further in redbull bc one 2012 because he ran out of moves in the quarter finals and started repeating.

[@haroldmay3205]

Flea wins the hater of the year award. 💥👏💥

[@Angelo-uo2gj]

Luigi was sloppy af

[@dim2thesum]

they got robbed

[@Hidroclorotiazida99]

Haha this has to be a joke...Shigekix and Kill murdered them in the tiebreak...that decision is just shameless

[@bboystimpax]

Huge respect for all the bboys in this battle, but robbery was obvious nonetheless. The bboys were all dope, but judges were unfair in this battle

[@ctubeguy]

This was a rob...i respect the judges decision, but the tie-breaker should have gone to kill and shigekix...they wanted that win and they killed it. It was an obvious blow out. Shigekix and flea rock's round was super close, could have gone either way...but Kill destroyed Luigi's round so bad...the decision became obvious. You can have flava, but that didn't mean you killed the dance floor.

[@BIurstoftimes]

SKMZ did well, but IMO this was a clear robbery. Flea lost his composure and looked like a fool for it.

[@scholarlycat8180]

Kill’s last set was the best I’ve ever seen from him. Actually threw in good footwork with his power moves for once.

[@iancrane5705]

And he didn't even get rewarded for it 😒

[@HoangNguyen-jd2mr]

Lol what are you talking about. Skill methodz was better in originality. Asian team just powermove and no footwork.

[@Zuriki_]

Skill Methodz wasn't that skilled... But they american so they win

[@aujizulkefli4341]

Yes.. I was thinking same thing

[@TheSmakkk]

Kill, Shigekix, and Pocket got robbed.. WHO TF ARE THE JUDGES?!

[@ygoakley2500]

That was some bull shit. Skill methods lost every single round. There should have been no tie breaker to begin with. They even lost both rounds in the tie breaker

[@nassereguider]

this is unbelievable how could they win ??? kill shigekix pocket won the three rounds

[@TearDropsir]

First beat though?

[@perenniallong]

Flea with that disrespect. . I get that there's battle tactics that may seem offensive, but that's just battle nature. But to take the mic from mc. duh fuq. Not to mention the middle finger to wing in a previous battle.

[@legraid4851]

Shigekix after 5 years of Evolution only became the Bc One Champ 2020 Respect !!

[@vas_g]

Tiebreak what Luigis set was a mess, he crashed the whole time and the other two were really weak and short in their sets.

[@donder111]

so much BIAS.. these American judges are protecting their reputation because they know that Asian bboys are getting better..

[@bboyritchy]

Guys, you justed forgot one Rules which often happened in US Jam, You can't won versus a US Bboy as a stranger! Execpt if you destroy him lol If it tight for some unknow reason you gonna loose lol Basics Judges Mentality! Cool...

[@corywhitney1386]

Ritchy Bad Eff yea so um how’s that theory been working out for you last year? The only USA bboys who really won anything were victor, thesis and monster energy crew. I think it’s you who are the biased piece of shit (btw not American)

[@bboyhanzo268]

Go call out the judges then talk shit in front of them

[@sammorelos428]

Yo venum WTF man … 2:03 you left him hanging like that?? You didn't see kid David leave Luigi like that when skill and squadron battled .

[@ashura1164]

THIS IS WAR !

[@zusamin1]

lol older bboys almost always beat the youngsters just beacuse they are the seniors

[@Asume23_Art]

Love skill methods but Korea took it. Are all the korea bboys from Morning Of Owl though?

[@platmypus]

Nah just Pocket. Kill is from a korean crew called Gamblerz and Shigekix is from Japan. They're not as dope as MoO but they're still an incredibly stacked team

[@QuincyJuanLopez]

Pocket relies on power-moves too much that they are predictable and therefore boring. What he needs to do is add more style and flava which makes them power-moves more effective and interesting this by flowing with the music.

[@BboyHellfish]

Damn kill beat luigi in that tiebreaker round

[@bb0yblind]

if u dont agree with the judges, doesnt mean u have to dislike the video. Think about Strife.tv that upload those video for us.

[@BBoyRocTee]

Flea's round at 05:00 is insane. Especially the way he ends. Raw!

[@AwkwardKarma]

i guess crashing wasnt being judged

[@MrcmeisteR]

2:08 really Venum? and Flea saying things in the microphone... Skill Methodz is one of my favourite crews of all the time, but i lost all my respect on the crew at this battle

[@mosesmbemba3908]

Marce D'Amato Mntgr its a battle, he can shake his hand after

[@BaccarattKR]

Moses Mbemba A battle must have respect as well.

[@bboyhanzo268]

I know im late but thats the thing in bboying battle mentality and respect in the end of the battle

[@JSchlo401]

Ughhh... After Flea Rock cuts off Kill's dong and feeds it to him in the first round. And Kill doesn't even block or know what's going on... Is that automatic loss? 😂

[@FunkyXtreme]

korean team always got robbery they are too strong to win without robbery

[@BboyZeon]

Guys, don't dislike the video. Massive props for the record man!

[@TheMakweezY]

In the Yeezys tho?! Too cold

[@daviddang82]

More like feezys

[@iNakmj]

1:21 flea rock so rude

[@vati2053]

What did he say?

[@megamanzoomex8541]

Yooo props to Bboy kill man , hater goin hate bruh

[@That0therG]

0:54 that was straight hype...Kill just walked forward like the fuckin' terminator!

[@m.x.]

2:52 Xenon 2 Megablast ❤ Gameplay: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2HGcnaMh6uaq80 Game Info: www.myabandonware.com/game/xenon-2-megablast-12c Original CD: www.discogs.com/Various-Xenon-2-Megablast/release/3171307 Original Mix: www.beatport.com/track/megablast-xenon-2-mix-original-mix/5115814

[@bboykiddblack]

ROBERRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY omg it hurts to watch lmao

[@2ill1313]

+bboykiddblack Never that. Where was the robbery ???

[@bboykiddblack]

All over luigis crashes and short rounds, all over that dope 90 kill banged in the tie breakers against luigis very messy round, all over the clearly higher difficulty of the asians moves while they were still clean. Im a stylish bboy but neither side was killin it with flava or musicality so in this case you give it to the harder and cleaner moves, skillmethodz got smooooooked badly, i was sitting right there this was robbery

[@2ill1313]

bboykiddblack Nah !!! You're being a bit delusional. Luigi was the only sloppy one. Did you notice that the only one's synching their moves to the music we're venum, Flea, and Shigekix ??? Pocket had difficult moves but was never on beat nor did he end his sets with a clean freeze ( on beat ) like he usually does. Off of one round where Kill did one consecutive move clean ( threading 90 )and ended his set with a sloppy freeze and you still think they deserved the win afterwards ?? The way I saw it it shouldn't have even gotten to tie breaker. And the tie breaker should have gone at least another round. At this point in time where the level of difficulty is at the highest there is no room for any small mistakes or, give the victory to another group simply because they did the harder, flashy moves. Thats a judging format of the 90's era where everybody was creating and innovating. It doesn't necessary work on this level of competition. Salaam !

[@aliu321]

Robbed, no way Koreans lost tiebreaker.

[@mitismee]

Skill methodz crash alot like i mean A LOT not just once . . still no fcking idea why they can win this lmao.

[@jezebulls]

Shigekix is so young and is only getting better. He had to carry two power heads. LOL

[@mythking541]

Tie Breaker first track Ludi - Ying Yang Technique

[@peets9490]

Flea should have gotten a complementary bottle of Tequila with his salt

[@laleemoua1]

Honestly that should not even be a tie breaker. Luigi was just everywhere struggling to recover. But whatever, losing is not fatal and winning is not final kill and pocket still killed it.

[@SupTomen]

Kill has the craziest moves

[@musclesup1]

the best bit ever 5:30=ying yang technique

[@weasnasim516]

wack shouldn't of been a tie breaker... korea totally ate them up!!!

[@BboyMonkeyy]

Stopped following SilverBackOpen Open. Corrupt organisation.

[@2ill1313]

+Bboy Monkeyy Why do you say that ?? I noticed they have a lot of major sponsorships. Are they exploitating more than they are actually helping the movemnt ?? I'm asking because the event looks well organized but I'm wondering about the Cash Prizes and everything else regarding bboys outside of the States. Like paying for their flight fee's, Hotels, etc....

[@xzseng4524]

+Bboy Monkeyy watch what ya say man. Without these organizations, You wouldnt get to see these big events online.. or if youre those that go to these events in person

[@ConsciousBreaks]

+AlbertBful That last statement is not true. Just saying.

[@bboydoc8688]

What's the name of the first song?

[@doanhanh2075]

03:20 name song plz, great dj.

[@KarelAnkerr]

I Really need that song @ 01:42. Anyone please?

[@뮤직토끼]

How much did the judges get paid?

[@papabear3525]

them asian kids fucken killed that other so called breaking crew lol

[@michaeldeen8849]

damn u racist!!! jp lol yea they killed it

[@followufollowme]

Asians danced with the musics and didn't crash as much and better executions... ROBBED.

[@2ill1313]

I notice a lot of these individuals on the comments have the mentality of a newbie or, have not studied the movement enough to understand it. Kill was not on beat in any of his rounds and finished sloppy in the tie. Pocket wasn't even on beat either. The most I've ever seen Pocket on beat is when he finishes his sets with a freeze. Thats it. You young individualsneed to analyze the craft more. Luigi was the only incomplete one out of SM's. Other than That Flea and Venum took it.

[@JSchlo401]

Damn..... Kill is so good with power moves, but rule #1. If you're getting punched, kicked, and smoked. You're supposed to defend, block, spin and kick or punch back!! @0:55 sec. Why didn't anyone ever teach Kill how to defend himself!!!

[@hedichallengerz5471]

because kill knows it's useless to reply with something agressive, especially to flea rock... actually , i agree with him! he knows talking to flea rock is not necessary u know? see that hand signal around 1:00, he was more like "u'll get smoked", and that's happened i mean he prefered acting than talking. kill is not someone like "bla bla bla,biter,bla bla bla,middle finger,bla bla bla.."

[@chenmark961]

what heppen to luigi?? he inspired me a lot in the past, but now...... by the way, flea roc is really dope!

[@inmybenztruck1439]

Dayum. Skillmethodz is sick, wish bboy cloud still competes.

[@thez33k]

You knew who the judges were..oldschool cats that don't like power or care for it and want to see "real" bboying. Plus Flea Rock was on skill methodz...OGs stick together.

[@godlink2118]

With all respect to OGs, have to say that judging was absolutely biased.

[@botengbliss5371]

This is what im talking about. How can Luigi be the Red Bull BC champ if he can't beat us asians (Koreans) which in my opinion are the mightiest bboys in the planet 😁💪🔥

[@leonskee1107]

Nice joke bro

[@bboypicopicolino5214]

Kkkkk vcs são foda mesmo!

[@bfe954]

Is it me or does pocket always do the same go-downs?

[@NapsWan]

Kill, Shigekix and Pocket got robbed imo. They didn't have footwork but they were cleaner so that won the battle for me.

[@taonacheke7343]

my first time to see Pocket doing a flare hahahaha

[@Aganaden]

shigekix is like bboy vero with hong 10 combined (smooth power moves and sick foot work)

[@sothearithlao9786]

the music please 05:34 !

[@musclesup1]

the best bit ever 5:30=ying yang technique

[@PierKri]

name song 3:11?plz

[@cloud8639]

happened to watch this again in 2020, ppl can have their own opinion and I respect that. But I just don't understand why everyone saying tier breaker luigi was weak, solid footwork, 2 signature sets and a decent short power set. Kill only did some basic footwork for 2 sec. I get it some ppl prefer Kill's stuff, but luigi's round was def not weak.

[@iancrane5705]

He crashed, not as badly as his first round, but he crashed lol. And when you compare that with Kill's critical air chair variation (original AND powerful) and banging out those 90s like that, no way tiebreaker goes to SKMZ

[@cloud8639]

@@iancrane5705 still, my point is Luigi's round was not weak. It really can go both way depending on what criteria each judge focus.

[@cloud8639]

​@@iancrane5705 and I don't spot where luigi crashed in the last round, the round wasn't his smoothest but really didn't have a crash I guess? but I mean if u have to say he crashed, then Kill also messed up that airbaby.

[@bryantham11]

Wait skills methodz.....isn't this the crew lil demon is in? And if it is where is lil D

[@foodcat475]

7:07 초 이분 누구지? 파켓도 잘하지만 무브보고 개인적으로 팬됬음 kill 인가?? 처음부터 예사롭지않던데.. 완전반함

[@김린-t8k]

비보이 킬 맞아요~ 킬만의 파워스탈이네요ㅎ

[@mistertopor]

And about Flea saying things about Kill he was just being original and having fun, most of all - getting in a battle(in all its forms) and having a crowd hype! thats what he does for last 3 years on Venice beach with Street Dogz and his sons - getting crowd entertained and hype! and, if going more deep into it, Kill wasn't just doing it the day of 1on1 before this battle..........he was doing his thing FOR ALMOST 20 YEAS NOW! so thats logic and no disrespect - thts a fact!

[@BaccarattKR]

Антон Топорихин The crowd didn’t peep at his comment...he was being a dick

[@akuma788]

wtf Skill Methodz win this one????? kill and pocket can kill everyone

[@kimjohn7548]

기술적으로 개발랐는데 어떻게 진거지? 킬 첫번째랑 마지막라운드 무브만봐도 답나온 경기었는데

[@BrianKTran]

MC on Kill: “he did that thing yesterday” 💀

[@aujizulkefli4341]

When he saying that?

[@Kajti.]

​​@@aujizulkefli43411:23, but u can see that Flea rock took this mic from MC and then said that, just look at the left corner

[@martinmartinek9524]

lul shut up this break not skill methodz but money methodz...

[@TJTheCutie]

damn looking back at this video years later i can really see why skills won. many eboys but flips and tricks won’t win when versing an actual crew with real bonds. that’s what’s beautiful about this dance

[@AlikaSEOULROK]

was it me or did Luigi seriously injure himself on that opener?

[@johnsolis6745]

Watching again 5 years later: FLEA ROCK WINS

[@cgtigrad]

pocket and the gang won that tie break hands down in my opinion.

[@drillar19]

Judges picked who they picked cause they thought they won. Stop arguing. They all voted for Korea when every judge picked 7 Commandoz in the final. you all read to much into this shit.

[@danielbloom8950]

What I am really wondering is why veteran bboys like Flea or someone else didn't respect to the opponent. They should teach the juniors to show some respect, but they didn't.

[@jeffguzman6497]

1:24 what did flea rock say