Structural engineer explains what he saw in condo collapse footage

CNN's Michael Smerconish speaks to structural engineer Matthys Levy about the deadly condo collapse in Surfside, Florida, and the structural field survey report from nearly three years ago that raised concerns about structural damage to the concrete slab below the pool deck. The report from October 2018 was included in a series of public records documents that were published overnight on the Surfside town website.
This is a new version of a previously uploaded video that contains this update: The 2018 report, which didn’t give any indication that the structure was at risk of collapse, was completed by Frank Morabito, who had no comment when reached on Friday.
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[@CNN]

This is a new version of a previously uploaded video that contains additional editorial information.

[@JamesJohnson-mv8oh]

EWTN News: On a mission to report the truth.

[@estebansantiago2670]

It’s racism.... cus mwuha Trump

[@equalityforall8418]

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[@estebansantiago2670]

@@equalityforall8418 I assume you have been around since the Moors claims of all Christians are bad

[@crystaltelf288]

I like as soon as the building collapsed, they right away put out a statement that it was NOT a structural problem....hello, the structure just collapsed...so THERE IS A STRUCTURAL PROBLEM!

[@longinusgalaxy411]

Blame game coming. Pointing fingers....owner? contractor? inspector?, etc

[@uzaiyaro]

I’m curious to know where you found that statement. Do you happen to remember or have a link handy at all? I’d love to have a look, thanks!

[@crystaltelf288]

@@uzaiyaro I was just watching a news program soon after the collapse and they showed this statement which of course was laughable considering that the structure had just collapsed. Sorry though I don’t remember which one ...it just stuck out to me.

[@ericneuharth]

I'm a structural engineer, this looks like saltwater seepage, a failure of the waterproofing system and major corrosion occurring due to water intrustion. Where is it coming from, likely from the ground underneath. The rebar started corroding, the spalling is the result...not the cause of the issue. It's a saltwater ground issue that corroded the steel and made it's way into the structure. Kinda rotted it from the inside out.

[@crystaltelf288]

@@ericneuharth yes I’ve heard them say that is what they believed what happened. I’ve always wanted to retire and live on the ocean in a condo...I think I’ll rethink that, maybe a lake house!

[@gustavedelior3683]

It's an American past time to ignore warnings and then stand there scratching our heads.

[@kumarashok7192]

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[@eponymousIme]

>>It's an American past time to ignore warnings and then stand there scratching our heads.

[@January.]

*pastime

[@sacrebleu1371]

@@kumarashok7192 A spammer that joined 1 week ago. Gee, wonder why that would be. Another head scratcher... 🤣

[@RealConstructor]

@eric It can only be a big fat lie in obese America.

[@ncnc111]

Everyone in this building association board is responsible for this tragedy, they neglected all the signs. They must be held accountable for all lives lost.

[@brittanydiane214]

I would like to know the actual responses to the warnings in 2018, when those mentioned they heard cracking sounds, etc. “It’s nothing..” “we’ll worry about it later”, “we need more tenants to move in this building so we can afford it”

[@teresathayn5170]

Lol! Rich people don't do time in America, duh.

[@justacinnamonbun8658]

Uh... 🎶The foolish man built his house upon the sand??🎶 🤷🏻‍♂️ I remember that song from Sunday school LOL

[@January.]

@Peter Piper *rubble

[@January.]

@Peter Piper *rubble

[@marcusaurelius49]

Corruption kills. If you elect corrupt politicians, the safety of the public is put in grave danger.

[@mmi16]

Florida and Dade County politicians are among the most corrupt in the World.

[@dadduorp]

@ZionistsUsingBlacks ToDestroyWhiteChristianCulture Say whatever bullshit you want. The proof is in where it happens. Florida is a Republican-run state.

[@stormfire962imastarcitizen5]

You are so right and the amount of corruption that is in the Florida politics is unbelievable and the governor of the state is so responsible for what is happening in these counties because he is not doing his job. Sadly this type of corruption is not isolated to any one particular state since this has occurred across our country and it needs to stop because human life is being affected by this because of individuals who are so willing to literally sell their souls in order to gain profit from sheer greed.

[@HashknightGaming]

Lol this building is the inspectors fault I don't defend the corrupt government officials but I say blame is on the person who makes sure a building is safe. I really don't think a governor or anyone else beside the corrupt inspectors who clearly took the money.

[@bokhans]

Did you say DeSantis will be the next Republican president? Americans love their corrupt no regulation politicians.

[@tomnguyen9931]

It really simple. Building a high rise building near water have it own issues but, the real cause is they are too CHEAP to pay the maintenance cost of living by the salt body of water. Which is way more higher than fresh water.

[@timothykeith1367]

The maintenance costs are passed on to the owners of the condo units, but too much costs like this will lower property values

[@ammoseeker1976]

@@timothykeith1367 The property values go down when the buildings look like shit and anyone with a brain knows special assessments will be getting tacked on

[@beneiseoleinmheart5614]

Too cheap? salt water vs fresh water

[@codacreator6162]

@@beneiseoleinmheart5614 Too cheap to do it right. Venice was built with nowhere near the knowledge and technology we had in 1981 and it’s still there. This building is newer than a lot of Miami homes, yet it failed.

[@sacredsquirrel1643]

Concrete and the ocean does not work well.

[@johnmiller4543]

The question Now is, how many other buildings in this area are in the same shape?

[@ericneuharth]

All of them if the land subsides or sinkholes into the ocean over the next 20-30yrs

[@bweaver760]

This may be a sign of the coastal erosion predicted in documentaries from global warming and rising oceans!

[@Ali-in8xi]

I can visualize what's going on right now with the owners of other buildings in the area and afar... they are in PANIC mood, looking up old inspection notes, calling inspectors out for a review, setting up appointments for repair persons to come out is more likely what they're doing. Now it's understood what the outcome will be if you just sit on your ass ignoring shit. Excuse my expression folks; I'm just so mad!!! This right here should have never happened!

[@marro2483]

@@bweaver760 oh lord 😂

[@ilovesuisse1]

@@RichBuddy from looking at some of the videos of the garage ceiling you can see there is corrosion, how could you not notice that, whether you were an owner or a tenant?

[@mordecaisackett9421]

I find it very compelling that the 2018 report highlights problems of water leaking from the pool slab to under the front of the building. Then, when we watch the video of the building falling down, the failure begins at the very place the report said was the most vulnerable area for damage. Right next to the pool is where the collapse begins and it propagates from there...

[@jimmypenrose1401]

It's an interesting phenomenon. It's almost like people who are well educated know what they're talking about.

[@theartistformerlyknownasth8612]

you know what else is interesting? that same inspector gave the overall structure a "good" quality rating

[@scottslotterbeck3796]

Impossible to know. Real reason, built on landfill.

[@jimmypenrose1401]

@@scottslotterbeck3796 or a sacred Indian burial ground..."THEY'RE HEEEERE!"

[@dogo5255]

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[@mildredgrossman5653]

It is hard to believe there would be any survivors of this horrific collapse.

[@LardGreystoke]

@K L Because it's...unstable?

[@tracywalker6813]

Weirder things have happened, but that fire ain't helping.

[@r.a.c.h6172]

I can't even imagine what the families must be feeling listening to this 😔

[@sonyaweinreis3658]

Heart broken 💔

[@latinaforever4892]

God please be there with them and the victims!! Amen 🙏🙏💕

[@mlight6845]

Sadly, the smoke coming from depth does not bode well for trapped survivors.

[@why-even-try-brotendo]

No one is alive under there, I am sorry to say.

[@mlight6845]

@@why-even-try-brotendo While they have not found others since the first 24 hours they heard tapping which indicated some one could still be there. Do you know if the tapping has stopped?

[@lantrick]

There are no trapped survivors. IMHO

[@mlight6845]

@@lantrick Every person with a missing loved will hope for their return until the area has been excavated.

[@margaretjohnson6259]

what survivors. they will not find anyone alive in that catastrophe.

[@dabsafe]

I was a director on my condominium’s board for over a decade and whenever an engineering firm recommended attention to a deficiency in the structural integrity of our building or its envelope, we acted on those recommendations. Failure to do so would nullify any insurance coverage that we carried as directors. Even if we had to assess the owners above and beyond what was in our reserve fund, we did it. I can sleep at nights knowing that we acted in a diligent and honest manner with the best interests of our condo corporation in mind but I have seen many other boards in similar buildings fail to take the same approach because they didn’t have the guts or honesty to raise monthly fees or levy special assessments for major refurbishment. It happens far too often.

[@billsmith2212]

GREED !

[@schao7555]

You was a director on the condo's board, so I do have a question??

[@cdixon2011ify]

Thank you for your input. It really opened my eyes on what is unfolding with this tragedy. So many layers

[@dianevanderlinden3480]

Apparently a few board members resigned because they couldn't come to a consensus about the repairs/assessments.

[@eternalsun.3400]

The bandaids they used in this building to stop the water was the most pitiful thing I've ever seen

[@cobrakai3732]

Is the engineer's mic made out of a potato? You'd think they'd do a sound check before going on the air with him....

[@jflsdknf]

Then again this is cnn we’re talking about

[@DevinSheaProductions]

Unlike you, he has a job. His job is being a professional engineer, not a millianial unemployed youtuber.

[@BristolBerg]

@@jflsdknf what a moronic statement 😂. Fox News is only a few clicks away.

[@dojinho]

I was just about to say the same thing. Thanks for saving me the time and effort! ;-)

[@dojinho]

@@DevinSheaProductions What a silly, empty response.

[@firstladypie760]

Why wait 40years to inspect Why can’t it be every 5years, even minimal inspections. Then in the 10 years period you have a more major inspection and so on. You are on sand, silt and water. You have erosions from salt water. My god man. I pray and mourn for these families 🙏🏽❤️

[@wisdomlistens2579]

There was an engineer report in 2018, which apparently is less than 40yrs ago.

[@wadestanton]

@@wisdomlistens2579 40 years for renewal of permit. You can inspect whenever you want

[@davidanalyst671]

because inspections cost money bro

[@davidanalyst671]

Why can't we just have the government pay all our salaries so nobody gets hurt and everyone gets equal pay? It worked in venezuela, the country that is the only humanitarian crisis using UN funds for refugee camps in the Americas

[@davidanalyst671]

@Peter Piper you definitely need to stop smoking so many doobies bro.

[@rRobertSmith]

Building withstood 5 major hurricanes and 40 years, the owners ignored the upcoming repairs, now they will have to pay the wrongful death claims.

[@sacrebleu1371]

Condo association that is supposed to deal with overall building maintenance will have to take accountability.

[@sidneyosborne947]

BODs have indemnity insurance.? This will ultimately lead to conspiracy theories...?

[@sharontrujillo7793]

@@sidneyosborne947 ...what doesn't? 😝

[@KicktheSky34]

They'll just declare bankruptcy and skate.

[@aidanbrown421]

@john cena sadly not most likely

[@strategymarketing1921]

Seems like a case of OWNER'S NEGLIGENCE. That building had been falling apart for years. 😮😯

[@jimcook2715]

The association can only suggest assessment The owners have to approve it

[@barbar9919]

Now watch folks. Move out if cheap built high rises. And go were there and yards concrete above them and yards of rotten cheap built condos. I hope I never walk in one much less live in one. And I'm a three genn plaster.

[@suntzu5836]

When the foundation goes, everything else goes with it......Kinda of like our Republic..........

[@tawrenwilliams9094]

Politics for no reason geez

[@tabithadorcas7763]

I think the lives lost here are a little more important than "our republic". All those souls, and the souls of those living who have been affected by this.

[@asmrp2p903]

You feel better now? There is a time and place for politics and its not now. You should feel ashamed of yourself, its disgusting and disrespectful. There are over 150 people missing which we all know that more than likely they were all killed. These victims have families and the last thing they would want to hear or read about right now is politics.

[@nicholasmills6489]

Yes the analogy is apt. They’re removing the foundation and pillars of our society.

[@nicholasmills6489]

@@tabithadorcas7763 that’s why they’ve played politics over Floyd’s death. They have systematically utilised his death to push the democrats agenda and divide society further. Aim your anger at the political class.

[@immortalasirpa8117]

"The pool slab is continuous under the building, so if there was leakage that took place--and in all likelihood did take place--and caused structural damage to the building itself, that could have been the *proximate cause* of the collapse." --Structural engineer Matthys Levy demonstrates that he has experience as an expert witness in court, hence the phrase *proximate cause*

[@gzhang207]

That is why I am scratching my head with the rush to create basement pools in London. Why does anybody want to introduce tons of water underneath their house?

[@LardGreystoke]

@@gzhang207 Better than putting it on the roof?

[@santyclause8034]

So leakage from the cracked pool softened the substrate layer, there was soil/clay subsidence, a foundation slab footing failure, cascading yield point slippage with associated mass loads losing distributed support at structural fastenings/anchorings and so forth. Should have been acted upon when the engineers report came in.

[@cantbeatatrumpet2101]

"10 x c4 paks

[@desertportal353]

Exactly right. U must be designer, architect or engineer. This is what I came up with on the first video. Learning that the ground water and maybe pool water contributed and the parking garage is under it all - is decisive.

[@kumarashok7192]

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[@AlbertHess-xy7ky]

What makes you think the pool was leaking?

[@ferengiprofiteer9145]

@@desertportal353 The dots from subsurface changes in support to top down pancake collapse are hard for me to connect.

[@islandbirdw]

This is what results when no government oversight exists under the guise of “deregulation”

[@pk7ghalm23]

What regulations were removed that would've prevented this?

[@marvinmartion1178]

This is really the truth!100%!

[@superjaded1738]

@@pk7ghalm23 A lot of people seem to think that business can do better than the government with regulations. It appears that these condo owners should have been heavily regulated then the buildings condition would have been deemed uninhabitable. They were due to have another major inspection which obviously didn’t save anybody. The response that could have made a difference should have happened in 2018.

[@pk7ghalm23]

@@superjaded1738 To just say regulations is so vague lmao. You have no idea what you're talking about lmao.

[@superjaded1738]

@@pk7ghalm23 I think I do know what I’m talking about. I worked in an industry that was heavily regulated.

[@jimsmedley234]

Pre-read the script: "subsistence" is not the word written down, which is 'subsidence' and has a very different meaning.

[@danoc51]

Yes, "subsistence" doesn't even make sense in this case.

[@patientzero5685]

I had to look up subsidence - I learned something new. I’ve known subsistence as a layman’s term but is it also used as a technical term for construction/engineering? Thank you for your comment and for satiating my curiosity.

[@MeanGeneSanDiego]

No one under the age of 50 learned how to spell.

[@jimsmedley234]

@@MeanGeneSanDiego .... or read, lol! Subsidence was spelled correctly Stetler just 'pronounced' a different word.

[@jimsmedley234]

Notice I just misspelled the host's name? :)

[@perfectstudents8361]

This is not only a sad tragedy, but also a testament to the quality standard of American buildings, when the whole world is watching.

[@dleet86]

FL is a red state and they are Libertarian Anarcho-Syndicalist Theocrats or L.A.S.T. version of America as shown in the 2020 covid response with no federal plan, administration, or coordination. Banana Republics are L.A.S.T. versions, too.

[@LardGreystoke]

For the last several years the world has seen a lot worse than this.

[@user-vb6lq9il5v]

The buildings themselves are designed well, but placed in bad locations and often not maintained as they should be.

[@kanuck2003]

Miami 1980's cartel construction money laundering. who knows who the contractor and investors were. Any answers out there

[@loriannrichardson7644]

But the engineers inspection report is 3 yrs. old -- why did it take a o long to address the problems???

[@maggie_codes]

Thank you for interviewing a Structural Engineer and not an Architect

[@ryanedwards7487]

Hahaha....you are an engineer too, I take it? I was like: finally, interview someone who actually can look at the structural plans, reports, and the engineers report on the deficiencies, and actually give you an expert opinion. XD

[@maggie_codes]

@@ryanedwards7487 yes I’m a Civil Engineer. I saw one interview with an Architect on another news channel and it was a cluster f***. People need to understand: -Architects make it look pretty -Engineers have an ethical responsibility to make it functional and structurally sound I have not seen any interviews with any Civil Geotechnical Engineers yet. I’ve only seen interviews with Civil Structural Engineers. Would like to hear from a Geotechnical engineer

[@ryanedwards7487]

@@maggie_codes I'd like to see what the geotechnical report for the building shows as well. I wouldn't be surprised that the underground parking structure and it's walls would have to deal with the water table being above the bottom foundation; that happens all the time. I'm curious why they had so much water intruding into the parking structure at this one building. It makes me think that someone used the wrong kind concrete mix in this structure or that waterproofing was never applied. You can't have feet of water coming thru into a basement unless there is a major issue. Initially they said the basement was flooded while they were getting out and I was thinking: Well, when part of the building collapses, no one thinks to turn off a water main...of course there is flooding. However, if this was going on for years and they already discovered the pool deck was not properly built 40 years ago, I wonder what other stuff the contractors just utterly neglected.

[@maggie_codes]

@@ryanedwards7487 there was one interview with the previous Building superintendent who said the garage was flooded frequently and pumps were used to help remove water. A few things he said Implied the water could have came from the water table. Maybe water came from both the pool area and from the water table. I saw in the 1979 plans (Drawing S3) that a pile foundation was used but the foundation pile schedule was not included in the posted drawing package. Would love to see any Geotechnical information I hope all Engineers learn from this tragedy and I want to see building codes/inspections improved for coastal structures. Something like This should never happen

[@ryanedwards7487]

@@maggie_codes no it should not. Sadly all this will do is make every crackpot out there that thinks that, because some bible verse said something about "foolish people building their house on the sand", feel validated. People can really make your head hurt.

[@Superman37891]

Yeah again we should demand to know why the officials didn’t take him seriously

[@Kathy-kr1sv]

I'd suggest money involved or other pressure to shut up.... Pity the engineer didn't go to tv news

[@Superman37891]

@@Kathy-kr1sv that’s reasonable. My only concern is that if someone bribed him to shut up, that person was knowingly putting lives in danger and will lose out on more money in the long run than if he/she actually fixed the issue. Also what’s to say the engineer wouldn’t have lost if he was to try taking further action?

[@Hemogoblin01]

@@Superman37891 lose or not, it goes on the record that he went above and beyond to prevent this seemingly evitable catastrophe from occurring. All we know is a statement was made that did not specify the building was susceptible to collapse.

[@LardGreystoke]

The engineer's report was wishy-washy. Used vague language such as "in a timely manner" rather than "fix it or it will fall down."

[@Sevenfold120]

Miami is built on bribes and dirty money. Everyone paying everyone to look the other way.

[@Tina-di4lx]

Most people don’t realize how heavy a structure like this is. If any of the load bearing foundation is off, a build can collapse Also Florida and other sites I’ve seen can sink or sustain water damage to a foundation . Yes rust is a major source of danger. Agree. Seen it many times over the years. This can bring any building down. Thank God for the Firefighters and city workers, Police, etc RIP

[@thatweatherman4411]

God bless our first responders who assist us in any disaster #Surfsidestrong

[@imacmill]

_most people don't realize..._ Why would they? Buildings basically never fall down. I want to read what this guy said about WTC Towers and Building 7.

[@sharontrujillo7793]

What PEOPLE ?? GTFOH...it's a 🏢 freakin' BUILDING..."some people" don't realize the STUPID nonsense they utter....🛑

[@sharontrujillo7793]

What PEOPLE ?? GTFOH...it's a 🏢 freakin' BUILDING..."some people" don't realize the STUPID nonsense they utter....🛑

[@ninaschust3694]

Especially when an engineer warned of the structural damage over two years ago.

[@kermitefrog64]

This is happening with the infrastructure throughout the country. This could have been averted. If the infrastructure is not kept up and repaired more lives will be lost.

[@eponymousIme]

Well, that's what Biden is proposing with his infrastructure proposal. But, right on cue, Republicans are pushing back -- and so are their voters. Because NOBODY WANTS TO PAY FOR ANYTHING until *after* disaster strikes. They are completely oblivious about cause and effect. We need to ramp up the IRS and give it more funding so they can go after the corporate tax cheats and uber-wealthy individuals with tax havens and shelters, and then put that recovered money in the national coffers so we can (cough, gag) "make America great again" instead of letting it rot while spewing empty political slogans.

[@nicolebrown1927]

And at the same time this tragedy happened, Republicans got the nerve to be sittin' around not wanting to pass the infrastructure bill.🙄

[@bidenbrain9amto8pm]

@@nicolebrown1927 how is my tax dollars responsible for someone private building repairs?...

[@dleet86]

@@bidenbrain9amto8pm Civil Engineering Inspectors are state or city employees. The settling and sink hole risks are government responsibilities to monitor and document. The repairs are paid via assessments, but the risks have to be made public. FL is a red state. Morticians' Lives Matter in GOP land and funerals fund the pro-life churches.

[@daylights7323]

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[@empeters71]

There are going to be a lot of lawsuits and rightly so if this was preventable.

[@maureenmcgrath8169]

Who can they sue? The homeowners association? Many of them are gone...

[@id10t98]

Hard to sue the Condo Association when it's no longer a condo association.

[@derrickcox4233]

congratulations...you win the understatement of the year award.

[@Gale4ce1]

If they were warned in 2018, why didn’t they close/get rid of the pool until it could be repaired? Why do you need a pool if you’re already on the beach?

[@Mikinaak2023]

You know people and their amenities. Gotta have it all. I agree. If there was a beach nearby, I couldn't care less about a pool.

[@Mikinaak2023]

@jon pork I was a pool attendant. Pools are just pissing toilets.

[@daylights7323]

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[@larrywheeler9917]

They sent the maintence man to buy stucco patch at home depot. He got the 10 lb box for $5.99.

[@sandradiaz2202]

GREAT POINT❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@gobigorange]

The Almighty American Dollar will win out over human lives every time

[@spymaine89]

....covi great reset..........sheep will obey. ..........June 4th 2021 Dutch PM Thierry Baudet exposes Rockefeller Foundation and NIH Lockstep Scenario & Charles Schwab's Great Reset ..............nurembergtrials.net/ . ///////////////

[@gravityking]

Republicans hate building regulations because they diminish profits.

[@sunlight4169]

Yup, and now we may have stricter codes and inspections put into place, but that does no good to those who lost their lives and their families. The collapse of Champlain South may be analogous to how Aloha Airlines Flight 243 changed airline safety. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4rEaHmnaqqWbMU

[@KC-bv9kf]

The Dollar is not a living thing. It’s owners, mostly Americans, made those decisions. Some may have lived in that building and may have voted on the budget and utilization of the HOA. Too soon but facts.

[@Dean4511]

@@gravityking The regulations are there. Whichever bureaucrat got paid to bury that structural report three years ago is the one who has a lot to answer for. Just as likely to be a Dem or a Repub.

[@bernardforand4078]

Presently evidence is supported by his evaluation. However, it goes much further. The entire Sand Bar appendage has begun to relinquish itself back to the waters of geological history.

[@JRoss-zxzx]

I am sure there are pictures of the damage hidden somewhere too.

[@tracyhale8336]

I wonder if all the other structures on the block are in danger of the same thing happening. So freaking scary. I don't think I could live in the area at all after this!

[@StephenYuan]

If that is true that whole area should not have been developed with high rises in the first place.

[@immortalasirpa8117]

@@StephenYuan Bingo

[@tanawilliams7498]

@@tracyhale8336 I would say they're probably are considering the circumstances that made this building fall.

[@ProfessorDBehrman]

If any one in Florida thinks this is an isolated incident, I've got news for them.

[@friedmac7146]

Your Right! ..... it's Not CNN should do it's home work. ☯️☮️

[@andrewareva4605]

The condo owners are saying that every building on the beach gets these warnings and the report didn't say that it was an immediate problem or an emergency. They are blaming the engineer for not saying it was serious enough.

[@LardGreystoke]

Like blaming the cop for giving you a warning instead of taking your keys away.

[@robotron17]

I'm honestly surprised this doesn't happen more often.

[@cynthiacole6140]

I am afraid it will. This can't be the only building in the area with issues like these. And those wishing to leave have little hope of selling with these types of severe problems.

[@lyni50]

It will

[@QuietlyCurious]

Yeah, I hold my breath everytime I cross a bridge. It's so obvious how worn our infrastructure is.

[@HoTrEtArDeDcHiXx]

Criminal negligence, at a minimum. Foul play is still on the table

[@verticalvideostation4946]

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[@kumarashok7192]

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[@HoTrEtArDeDcHiXx]

@@verticalvideostation4946 Yeah, I heard

[@HoTrEtArDeDcHiXx]

@jon pork Yeah, that's criminal negligence, genius. 1+1=2. Duh

[@mykofreder1682]

They said it was going through a 40-year inspection, I would hope for high residency buildings at least check the foundation every 5 years. I wonder what was going on with respect to that inspection.

[@jimmypenrose1401]

No doubt the local government (it IS Florida, after all) didn't want to impose the burdensome regulations on the ownership group of making sure the building wasn't a death-trap. Regular inspections and repairs might have cost the ownership corporation .0001% of their profit margin. THAT'S SOCIALISM!!!

[@bethanydee1920]

1981 Kansas City Hyatt Recency walkway collapse uncovered the standard corrupt practice of the time where building inspectors were getting payoffs to pass construction without actually inspecting it. Then they just made up info in their reports. 114 people died as a result. First responders said it looked like a war zone. I'll be looking for who it was that got a payoff for ignoring the repair needs here

[@user-hf1vs8hd7t]

Needed$9million for repairs

[@daylights7323]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIbZlZZsmqiGjac .

[@dogo5255]

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[@channelsna100]

Brave people trying to save lives there. Hero*s.

[@jansonshine9082]

These heroes are being criticized for being "too slow!" and due to police traffic control measures aren't receiving enough food and water. Ridiculous! This is some of the most grueling, dangerous & difficult work- appreciation & food is overdue!

[@aksting]

It is pretty common knowledge now, that using anything other than stainless steel reinforcement will eventually lead to failures like this. Every one of these building probably have pilings below the water table that will suck up the water like a straw. Which building is next and will anything change before the next catastrophe.

[@KB4QAA]

Bridges, bulkheads, dams and other structures are built in salty conditions and give sterling service. Proper material selection and maintenance are the keys. There is structural reason why these condos should fall down.

[@45azma]

Sue the bloody Governor

[@bidenbrain9amto8pm]

This was the fault of the liberal Democrat governor when it was built 40 years ago

[@chudleyflusher748]

Florida looks more like Haiti every day.

[@bidenbrain9amto8pm]

No thank to Biden with his open door policy to illegal immigrants

[@Austin8thGenTexan]

@@bidenbrain9amto8pm Classic whatabout-ism. 🐥 🤷‍♂️ 🐥

[@chudleyflusher748]

@@bidenbrain9amto8pm What “open door policy” are you talking about? Right. You have no idea. You need to stop listening to Tucker Carlson and look out your window. You’ll be surprised.

[@jimmypenrose1401]

@@bidenbrain9amto8pm The immigrants aren't the problem: Florida Man is.

[@ericpandorf1884]

Actually Florida is capturing all the smart people liberal states have final discussed enough to move.And smart employers.

[@harshitjain575]

You do realize that there are at least a thousand buildings in Florida with some sort of structural defect. It's not something that's unknown.

[@bokhans]

Not to mention the infrastructure of USA, did trump address it, now he used the money to lower the taxes for the mega rich. is Biden addressing it, yes but only a little and with extreme opposition from the Republicans. Wait for bridges to collapse soon.

[@longcastle4863]

Were the residents told of the report and the structural damage?

[@maggie_codes]

So far I haven’t heard any news about that but I’m curious as well.

[@eponymousIme]

It would be helpful if the CNN host (Smerconish) would either explain "subsidence" or specifically ask the guest to define that term. EX: "Subsidence refers to the gradual caving in or sinking of an area of land."

[@dleet86]

Subsiding is like settling.

[@jansonshine9082]

The building was sinking at about 2mm per year in the 90's. All buildings everywhere settle to some degree over time. It is worse in this area due to sea level rise.

[@craigcorson3036]

It would also help if he didn't read it as "subsistence" which is another thing entirely.

[@jabrakoma]

Im from casablanca, city in morocco, africa, and this type of catastrophy is outrageous. Buildings are not meant to fall

[@davidanalyst671]

don't act like this crap and worse doesn't happen every day in africa.

[@jansonshine9082]

Sometimes nature decides otherwise, like in Agadir. This is very rare here in the US, most of our collapses are from natural events. Part of this cause can be sea-level rise, from the climate crisis, as Florida has much coastline property.

[@macallangiunta9825]

The corporate structure of a condo corporation is what led to this. Imagine how all the condos across North America will look in 10-15 years when they all come due for maintenance and the original owners have already sold and left. What a great time to be a millennial. I can only afford a crumbling asset that will either kill or bankrupt me later in life. Joy!

[@consumerbot7980]

like the rest of america's infastructure, rotting and not long before disaster strikes. But hey the stock market is doing good!

[@Dallas_K]

Just don't buy it. Simple logic most millennials do not use.

[@macallangiunta9825]

@@Dallas_K literally got offered the condo I was renting because the owner was looking to sell. I'm a millennial and I said hellll no

[@KB4QAA]

Mg: Caveat Emptor! No different than buying a house. Have it inspected and use common sense. Millenials are not somehow being tricked, scammed, or unknowingly shafted unless they are stupid.

[@ct92404]

@@macallangiunta9825 You think Millennials are the only ones who will have problems with this?? As usual, someone from the Skinny Jeans Generation is completely full of themselves.

[@smilebigiloveyou]

These poor families

[@CrystalMouse1]

Ah engineers. The unsung heroes nobody listens to when it counts

[@davidanderson6100]

You bet, but when something goes wrong or need to get something done. Who are the first people you call.owners and builders, along with local politicians will scatter like roaches.

[@gocrazy3564]

@Z Ham he didn't even mention Trump though. He simply pointed out that florida is run by Republicans.

[@Vertigotheatre1]

This is Americas version of Grenfall tower in the UK. Yes, Grenfall tower was a fire, but both has warnings that something bad was gonna happen, both were ignored.

[@chodkowski01]

The woman on the 4th floor was a witness to what happened. She was on the phone with her husband as she was on the balcony looking at the pool. She told her husband the pool just collapsed and then her phone went dead. Unfortunately she’s under the rubble.

[@ImmenseFavorMeditations]

That's right. There was a woman who saying that there a sink hole where the pool was. Moments later the building fell.

[@greglewis9904]

This needs to be included in the infrastructure bill all buildings over a certain age should be inspected.Washington is playing politics with our lives if we saw some of the bridges we drive over most people would stop driving.The rail system is in horse and buggy mode compared to Japan,France and many other countries.We are to busy voting along party lines instead of supporting who is right.We haven't seen nothing yet here in America.God have mercy on us.

[@YTPartyTonight]

Biden’s rush to claim that there was a bipartisan deal on infrastructure is crumbling about as fast as that building in FL. Based on deeper analysis I’ve heard, the whole situation is likely headed toward nothing new or additional towards infrastructure spending/investments. This so-called infrastructure package of Biden’s is likely DOA because Republicans certainly are not for it and too many Democrats in the Senate aren’t really behind it either. Conservative D’s like Manchin, Sinema, and others I can’t remember now off the top. Most likely they maintain the current amount of federal infrastructure funding and try to put a happy spin on it hoping MSM will help them fool the people into believing that Biden and Congress accomplished something to do more about infrastructure.

[@nicolebrown1927]

I concur

[@triciac1019]

We do have laws that budings like these do need inspections. The first required one was being done. They did find there was cracking and splaying. The investigation may not have been finished before the collapse. More and complete information will come out.

[@YTPartyTonight]

@@triciac1019 1st in 40 years. Too late.

[@jimmypenrose1401]

The federal government isn't generally in the business of enforcing local building codes. In fact; they NEVER are - nor should they be. This is exclusively the fault of the (de)regulators in the ever-so-efficiently-run cesspool of a state called Florida - and Miami-Dade county. If you want to be angry at people for this disaster; at least TRY to have some clue as to WHO to actually be angry at. Sounds like they certainly had PLENTY of warning judging from the engineer's report that they ignored.

[@jaybee5832]

Florida is slowly returning to the Ocean.

[@malcolmjelani3588]

Good

[@lilianabatista9867]

@@malcolmjelani3588 why is that good? You want people to lose their life. Evil of you

[@davidanderson6100]

Yep,when are they going to get it.

[@frankt5987]

@@lilianabatista9867 No one will die. They just need a good bath.

[@marisolaquino719]

I lived in FL from 1980 till 2002 and even then they’ve had been saying that the whole state is sinking. 🙏🙏🙏

[@chocolatequeen5953]

I can never understand why they get engineer inspection ,when they not going to take the warning of the engineer ! Heads should roll 🙄

[@wordforger]

EVERYONE knows that engineers are pesky know-everythings who care more about things like "safety" and "structural integrity" rather than important things like "money" and "convenience." They just make these really expensive recommendations to make themselves feel better and inconvenience their clients. No other reason. None at all.

[@curiousk9603]

Rebar loses its ability to reinforce concrete if it has rusted.

[@desertportal353]

Bless those who died and are dying at this moment. And godspeed to those trying to locate them.

[@kumarashok7192]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmqxqKaYqsSEnZo

[@jimmythetout109]

Those Republican voters who applaud the rescinding of all types of regulations as a " good thing " for business and the economy are seeing just 1 " benefit of winking at regulations ...

[@ralphcolerick4939]

business as usual in todays south. less regulations to own the libs. and yes I'm a republican whose party has left him in the dust thanks trumpy

[@rokarolla]

@eric The insurance industry that underwrites this risk has the unbiased unvarnished information, and they need to share it with The American people.

[@nadinadi8385]

Republican philosophy: “money over human lives”

[@rokarolla]

@eric and yes, building condo towers on wetlands is a very Republican thing to do.

[@Dobviews]

I love how the republican party has demonized the voice of the people (government).

[@bobthekobb]

I couldn't imagine watching tv with the kids and down it comes, absolutely terrifying. Survivors and victims families are traumatized for life.

[@desert-baytan3350]

You could see light on

[@erichaynes7502]

I can envision hundreds of mandated "emergency" inspections of condo buildings. I also envision dozens of 30-40 year old condo buildings not passing these inspections. They will find out they weren't originally built up to code because of greed, just like they found houses that got destroyed by 1992 Hurricane Andrew. Thousands of those houses weren't built to code so why would we think these old Condo buildings were? I mean, they found out many houses didn't have nails driven in to support beams/roofs etc. Hopefully nobody else dies but every day from today is a ticking time bomb in S. Florida.

[@jansonshine9082]

Ironic, Andrew's devastation strengthened their building codes. Those "luxury homes" near Kendall had sloppy construction. A group of homes close by, built by amateurs/volunteers helping Habitat For Humanity, made it through Andrew's wrath with little damage. Ones built by kindness made it while the ones built in haste & greed were destroyed.

[@terrynewell8968]

Is there a connection to poor materials like other structures built in the 80s? I believe thats what alot of bridges throughout the country has in common.

[@vogparis09]

Probably cheated on cement/sand proportions and even steel rods. Anything to save money.

[@kumarashok7192]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmqxqKaYqsSEnZo

[@erichaynes7502]

I think so because I went through Hurricane Andrew in S. Miami in Aug 1992. Thousands of houses had been built shabbily and not to code because of a housing boom(and general greediness) in the decade or two prior to this Hurricane. Some reports were that roofs didn't even have many nails to bolster them down. So, what happened during the Hurricane? The houses literally flew apart.

[@oldwoman1592]

These projects always go to the lowest bidder. They use the cheapest allowed materials to win the bid.

[@daylights7323]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIbZlZZsmqiGjac ?

[@VIi726]

Sounds like quite the lawsuit is coming soon

[@VIi726]

@Marie Hackett plenty more to come

[@lindsey9728]

And the attorney representing the HOA has already released a statement assassinating the character of those filing the lawsuit.

[@bobbywright6062]

It’s interesting to see the leveled approach of the structural engineer compared w the sensationalism of the reporter.

[@LardGreystoke]

Well, she wasn't lying. Just dramatic. Part of the "we're on your side" phenomenon.

[@madreep]

Seriously! He wasn't agreeing with her but she couldn't let it go.

[@wilywascal2024]

The building is mostly or wholly owned by its tenets and maintained through their condo association, of which condo owners sit on its board of directors. That said, it isn't unusual for many of the individual condo units to be leased out by the owners of those units. An engineering study conducted three years ago in preparation for its 40-year recertification found significant flooding and structural damage to the building, likely due to a "major error" in design of the building "where the lack of drainage on the pool deck caused major structural damage," and recommended timely reparations, estimating costs totaling $9.1 million. Can't know definitively without more information, but suspect the condo association balked at the huge cost involved with making needed repairs. Reportedly, Champlain Towers South had "extensive inspections prior due to deterioration, and the condo association was preparing to make updates and repairs." Also, Florida is notorious for its sinkholes, poor building codes (especially prior to Hurricane Andrew), shoddy construction, lax enforcement by building inspectors, and corrupt relationships between politicians and real estate developers. It's likely that there is plenty of blame to go around.

[@dleet86]

Plus, Morticians' Lives Matter in red states and funerals fund churches for the GOP's pro-lifers. 80% of the covid deaths were over 65 aka on FICA, or Entitlement Moochers to the tuckers and and other oligarchic hoarders of capital.

[@davidconnors6532]

Look at the time schedule and you can see a pattern for motive these people are looking at a 9 million dollar bill just to get recertified for another 40 years so if you have 110 units and their owners which are the same thing you must divide that up between those owners that $9 million dollar bill they couldn't even sell those units to cover the fees for that bill which is why most of them had moved out subleased or on vacation now they're all trying to come out as victims and innocencemt.

[@January.]

There are hotels and condominiums along the whole coastline. How can all these buildings be trusted to be safe

[@ChosenOne6666]

The HOA was told by a structural engineer of defects at the base of the foundation. So its the residents fault and the HOA president for not taking action.

[@tomnguyen9931]

She got an OUTS...... They did not put it in all caps or red letters. Meaning they are TOO CHEAP!!!!

[@ChosenOne6666]

@@tomnguyen9931 I dont understand your gibberish.

[@eponymousIme]

The HOA was assured by a representative of the City that the structural defects weren't serious or worth worrying about, since they would cost millions of dollars to fix.

[@ChosenOne6666]

@@eponymousIme I have read those reports. The defects were serious enough.

[@roberthollingsworth8940]

@@ChosenOne6666 obviously the city lied to the HOA and the residents.

[@stephenjacks8196]

The Florida swamps sit on Limestone, a soft rock further weakened by seawater intrusion..

[@askmom802]

we're so "lost in the sauce" of nonsense in this country that we ignore the shit we should not only be paying attention to, but dealing with - safety issues like the one coming to light with this building (condo associations should not be allowed to defer health and safety findings), infrastructure, the state of the planet we leave our children, gun violence, and on and on! this moment is for all of us to think about our fucking priorities across a broad range of issues.

[@Austin8thGenTexan]

The Republican bullsh*t response to our poorly "maintained" electric grid in Texas is so thick that you need to wear really high boots. Our governor signed a toothless bill about it, but he is obsessed with building more wall on the border just like Trump was. The tail still wags the dog in Texas. Republicans hate regulations. That's why we've had TWO depressions to clean up after. They're the reason we nearly did not receive rural electrification in Texas. "It wouldn't make enough money to be worth it" they (Republicans) said... 🥀

[@dleet86]

@@Austin8thGenTexan You and Carolyn above you in comments need to update your passports. DYK, SSDI is accepted a verified income source for a resident visa in many countries on the Democracy Index, and they have national health to care for your disability, as civilized societies do. "Treat the least among you" is a Democracy's default position. Christians used to believe it before the GOP securitized God and gave him 9.1% of the entire GDP.

[@Austin8thGenTexan]

@@dleet86 My passport is current. What the hell are you talkin' about ? 🐥 🤷‍♂️ 🐥

[@paulfrench7356]

HEAR HEAR

[@daylights7323]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIbZlZZsmqiGjac ?

[@bosswomen6315]

This is such devastating news 💔. This tragedy was allowed to happen by human error and neglect. My heart goes out to those suffering. We pray for comfort for all during this difficult time. We must never give up hope even when it looks like there is none. 🕊️

[@nicolebrown1927]

And greed

[@jockyoung4491]

It's almost as if infrastructure were important

[@davidanalyst671]

This is a political throwaway line politicians use to waste your money without telling you they are wasting your money

[@wiseowl2020]

Private property. Local building codes.

[@samjones4212]

A buck says Inspectors got paid off years ago.

[@marvinmartion1178]

What inspectors!

[@okd521]

Are the same people who are wondering why a building is inspected once every 40 years the ones who say there should be no government at all?

[@echirag]

Probably... The same people who voted for less regulation and government.

[@LardGreystoke]

If you called them "anarchists" they would just look at you.

[@GettingOlderByTheDay71]

Florida is famous for their sinkholes. Water undermining the foundation is my guess. I'm surprised the other half of the building is still standing...

[@jansonshine9082]

Not a sinkhole- guarantee it! Sea level rise & steel rebar being corroded by sea water. Those famous sinkholes are on the north Gulf side nowhere near Surfside on the Atlantic. BTW hundreds of search and rescue experts cannot work underneath or on top of a sinkhole.

[@seanm3226]

@@jansonshine9082 Not sea level rise. Ridiculous.

[@ezacher4634]

Build on a porous sand lanscape. "Amazed" this could happen in America.

[@scottslotterbeck3796]

Sand can be very, very stable. The Brooklyn Bridge is built on sand.

[@ezacher4634]

@@scottslotterbeck3796 No. Men died putting in the pilings for that bridge. Look it up.

[@dogo5255]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIbZlZZsmqiGjac

[@scottslotterbeck3796]

@Brandy Courvoisier no. The cassions went down to stable sand only.

[@andrewalderman9489]

In San Francisco and Los Angeles, where building must meet earthquake standards, this is less of a threat, since we understand liquification and design around it.

[@secondact7151]

My suspicion is that those that had access to the full reports spent the three years assuring other residents while they sold their own condos.

[@jacqueline548]

Color me bad but if they were both constructed in the same year. How did their 2018 inspection go for that sister condo around the corner?

[@emilyfeagin2673]

Good question!

[@ColumbiaQT2001]

I’d be moving out of the other building pronto. It’s only a matter of time til the other building collapses. Their building was probably had the same inspection…

[@cyberoptic5757]

Is it possible that the building's owners knew there was a problem, but chose to delay for continued profit? If true, isn't that evil?

[@emilyfeagin2673]

It was a condo. People own the unit they live in but the association takes cate of the common area and the building itself.

[@cmacd8879]

Condos are run by a board made up of owners of the condos; so it was the owners who stalled on making repairs that engineers suggested.

[@kenamaro3942]

More then evil...its negligent homicide !!

[@nikorahm3738]

I want to know how that 15 yr old kid, the one soul survivor was found relatively untouched but no one else has made it out alive. He still had three floors above him.

[@missruthie81]

My heart is breaking for the children involved especially. 💔

[@lindaleelaw5277]

Developers and landlords pay to get passed. The shit thats being built

[@scottslotterbeck3796]

In Democrat cities, yes, all the time.

[@deerhunter7482]

You evidently have never built anything.

[@jansonshine9082]

Florida's building codes were lax when this building & its identical twin a few blocks north, were built in 1981.

[@truwth]

How does a professional broadcaster pronounce subsidence as "subsistence" ? Twice

[@January.]

His job is secure because you and I are the only ones that care

[@spuriustadius5034]

It's a really embarrassing mistake and there's no excuse for it. But the gravity of the situation makes mispronunciations not so important, that's why the guest did not correct him.

[@daydreamer226]

Right, that's the real issue we should explore /end of sarcasm

[@YTPartyTonight]

@John Wilharm That’s just dumb and pointless. Your claiming that they ignored the point is your projection. You don’t know that. We don’t know that. The fact that they recognized the correct word is subsidence, if anything, is evidence that they were paying attention and understand the topic or issue.

[@truwth]

@@spuriustadius5034 I would argue that 90% of the viewers have no idea what the actual word "subsidence" means (including me, until I looked it up). I'd say the gravity of the story deserves that he define the word for the viewers, to give the important context of the engineer's report, but he didn't even give the correct word, let alone its meaning.

[@votetocount1752]

Prayers go out to all involved, and prayers go out to the 1st responders.

[@superblondeDotOrg]

DeSantis: "We don't need infrastructure bills! We need more gun freedom!" 🙄

[@longinusgalaxy411]

Pteaching to the choir. Hes a clown

[@wiseowl2020]

This is a private property subject to local building codes and regs.The infrastructure you refer to is publicly funded roads, bridges, tunnels, and dams.

[@superblondeDotOrg]

@@wiseowl2020 The infrastructure bill which Republicans repeatedly refused to forward

[@wiseowl2020]

@@superblondeDotOrg Two different things. The condo is private property that is regulated by local building codes. The infrastructure bill is for publicly funded roads, bridges, tunnels, and dams.

[@LaneCorbett]

The "Infrastructure" Buill you want passed so bad is just Leftist pet projects

[@JohnDoe-gg6kc]

Excessive differential displcement of the foundation could cause significant reditribution, mixed with deterioation of the columns would be a very plausable cause

[@iandalziel7405]

TLDR: Entropy + Gravity :- )

[@l.k.b.2447]

Lived in Fl. all my life, grew up on the beach, dig down 3 ft. you hit water. I still don't understand why anyone would build on the beach, Just greed .

[@LardGreystoke]

Not to mention that the remaining structure has been under severe stress and may or may not stay up.

[@thegreatest3371]

People will not be living on the coastlines much longer.

[@lantrick]

People will always live on the coastline, as they have for millennia.

[@KicktheSky34]

@@lantrick The coastline will just be in the Rockies.

[@ivorscrotumic3556]

Are the GOP still in favour of deregulation...??

[@bidenbrain9amto8pm]

God bless Trump

[@christinepark1398]

If only they were the only people that it hurt.

[@iandalziel7405]

Indubitably - they seem to be straight down the line anti-life, logic and love...

[@larrywheeler9917]

You can't even regulate them to not smoke inside a restaurant. Under Trump they crawled out of the rocks they lived under. They have their own alternate reality these days. It's like a sect.

[@shangobunni5]

Yes, they are. GOP leaders don’t care about the people who died. They only care about money. Regulations, inspections, repairs, and upgrades are expensive. There is a very special place in Hell waiting for them where they will eternally smolder, smother, and gnash their teeth under crushing mountains of excruciatingly painful regulations and red tape. Poetic Justice.

[@Dobviews]

I guess years of constantly having to add water to the pool didn't seem like a big deal. SMFH

[@OrganicDolphin]

They could have thought it was evaporation

[@bsqwahlE]

@@OrganicDolphin Yup, pool water evaporates surprisingly quickly.

[@timothykeith1367]

@@OrganicDolphin Most of the water seeping in the concrete would evaporate. Otherwise many would have noticed water dripping from below. But the core of the concrete would have been damp for years which would corrode the steel. That will be easy to detect when they find lots of corroded rebar.

[@daylights7323]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIbZlZZsmqiGjac .

[@dogo5255]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIbZlZZsmqiGjac

[@bmarie8965]

Sadly no one would ever think of looking at inspection reports before buying..i wouldn't even think to do so

[@jf76]

The important message here is that safety crews, engineers, architects, and doctors are all trying to save lives. It is frustrating when people sometimes think that hiring someone is just to get a permit as a nuisance. No. There is a lot more at stake. If an engineer's report was issued three years ago and nothing was done, that building owner should have notified residents if there were no funds to make appropriate repairs. So tragic, and a nightmare for all of the families, the rescue crews, and the experts who tried to alert the people so far in advance. So sorry for all.

[@visoroverwatch3247]

Meh its Trump's FLorida. Anything can happen there since there's literally no Government in there.

[@kumarashok7192]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmqxqKaYqsSEnZo

[@krimmer66]

yup, who need cumbersome regulation that just cost money....

[@thegreatest3371]

Miami is a blue city.

[@krimmer66]

@Lalo it's tragic both that it happened and that people actually thought deregulation is a good thing.. dunno who is at fault for this but I imagine it is state regulated.

[@TrixiLovesYou]

So this could have been prevented? Interesting. Also: "subsidence," not "subsistence."

[@claressalucas8922]

Thank you! That mispronunciation really bothered me too.

[@ronaldreagan5535]

DeSantis sat on the structural report of the collapsed building. He didn’t want to tick off real estate developers.

[@stephenwedderburn9307]

@@ronaldreagan5535 that is no surprise. When this happened I commented that there probably would have been some corruption involved and was told that it was sink holes! All the documentary film I've seen on sink holes have never been the cause of tower block collapse. Subsidence was mentioned on a news report.

[@begintothink]

Why are you blaming the governor like he was in charge of the building? There are numerous people between him and that report.

[@claressalucas8922]

@@begintothink Agreed. I despise DeSantis, but this one probably isn't his fault, except maybe in an existential way (e.g. endless infrastructure week, climate change denial, etc.)

[@indemniman1623]

I'm a retired Commercial Ins Agent, I voiced my opinion on another site yesterday that the age of the building and construction, water damage could have been a determining factor. Bless all involved, victims, family, and friends, I pray they find survivors.

[@juaconn]

Something no one has talked in the news, is that in Miami there are many buildings that where made from the 70's through the 80's that have the same layout and the same type of construction I lived in one of them that at the 40 year had similar issues. I didn't had a balcony for 6 month because of it.

[@zoeherriot]

lol - when the author of "when buildings fall down" tells you you have a problem - it might be worth doing something about it.

[@CutcliffePaul]

Did he say that salt water can make the ground more 'froopy'? 🤔

[@LardGreystoke]

Entire neighborhoods in the area are froopy.

[@jameandthegiantpeach2273]

...my heart goes out to those in the Miami building collapse, and the dc overpass collapse, and the mexico city train bridge collapse...💔😭

[@l3igl2eaper]

When an engineer gives you a warning, you fucking listen. They are the ones who are sued for being negligent. When they do their due diligence, the liability for harm and/or death falls to the party that is warned.

[@jonimaricruz1692]

It’s a built in part of capitalism, you privatize profit, the money goes to a corporation and to its shareholders, while the risks and damages are borne by the community at large in the form of loss of life, in this case, and the costs of emergency services such as 9-1-1, police, fire, EMS and so on that are paid in taxes.

[@thebarnabator69]

Bingo

[@sarahgallucci8550]

The owners need to be held accountable.

[@Dean4511]

Yeah, the communist system does it better? Must explain all the luxury housing in Russia. lol.

[@jonimaricruz1692]

@@Dean4511 Did I say that? Are you dim? Do you have problems with basic comprehension? I just said it was a built in part of the sort of capitalism (there are different forms of capitalism, did you know that?) that we have. There should be a way for those who make the profits to share in the cost of tragedies such as this. And who knows, they may, I’m not holding my breath, but they may. Go learn something, stop letting your reflexes do your thinking.

[@jimmypenrose1401]

@@Dean4511 Evidently you are a product of the same Florida education system that created this mess in the first place.

[@wands2457]

Audio muddled. I am trying to associate a slab under the pool "deck" that may have caused this tragedy. Was there still water in the pool? Was it level right after? That would tell all. No?

[@kumarashok7192]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmqxqKaYqsSEnZo .mnm

[@wands2457]

@@kumarashok7192 wtf?

[@AlienCatTweets]

The property didn't want to repair the damage in 2018 to now, didn't want to spend the money. They will pay much more than that now, and all those people dead/missing.

[@ursaltydog]

With these and other buildings in the area, essentially being built upon a "rubble pile" to extend the area out, coupled with the constantly chlorinated water leaking underneath the adjacent garage that is under all those stories of the condo, willful ignorance and shoddy repair workmanship, subsidence from the weight of the building and saltwater intrusion, and likely paying off the counsel to give them extra time, resulted in this human tragedy. Imagine... your family asleep at 2AM in the morning... BAM... that's it.. no warning.. no time to evacuate.. just layer upon layer of concrete smashing your loved ones to oblivion.