Structured Cabling Discussion: Working With CAT5e, CAT6, CAT6A & Shielded Patch Panels

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@chaseperez677
@chaseperez677 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you all for the wonderful videos that you guys make. I love how practical and informative they are. As a new IT professional these videos are very helpful!
@Technogist
@Technogist 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip on the Modular stuff, wish I had known to look for it sooner.
@barteh
@barteh 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, even 3 years on its still relevant and useful.
3 жыл бұрын
Still very valid points of view, specially when considering budget companies. I enjoy your videos very much, good job.
@luis1985
@luis1985 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the video you do. Super helpful. Can you guys make a video on how to properly ground shielded cable(s) in a home and for businesses? Thanks!
@alanmcconnaughey5046
@alanmcconnaughey5046 4 жыл бұрын
I run cables as needed at work. I love the belden revconnect Jack's. You pay a price premium but they are so much easier and faster to terminate. You also get a really consistent termination.
@HuMaNiTaRiAn1
@HuMaNiTaRiAn1 5 жыл бұрын
Seriously, how long does it take to clean those bodies out the van. We need a van tour.
@aldenhoot9967
@aldenhoot9967 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another helpful vid! Would love to see a conversation about what sort of environmental factors would cause you to select shielded vs unshielded Ethernet cables for an install? What kinds of interference sources do you look for? Does any length of run that is parallel with a 120vac line constitute a problem? When does shielding become a hazard in terms of failed to grounds causing them to become antennas?
@AndreasSchiestl
@AndreasSchiestl 5 жыл бұрын
The maximum length for gigabit ethernet is 100m not 300m. I think you mean 300ft.
@LAWRENCESYSTEMS
@LAWRENCESYSTEMS 5 жыл бұрын
Oops, thought I said 100m
@RedneckTechcontrolle
@RedneckTechcontrolle 5 жыл бұрын
Nope you definitely said 300M, i was wondering what kind of magic you had for that.
@Noodles.FreeUkraine
@Noodles.FreeUkraine 5 жыл бұрын
Tom WILL make it work. 👍
@pv6596
@pv6596 5 жыл бұрын
Copper Ethernet can indeed go beyond 100meters with the right equipment. It’s not standards based but it works well.
@lowvoltagedude7837
@lowvoltagedude7837 5 жыл бұрын
If your fingers don't hurt your not doing it right. The twist is a big part in the design of the cable. I try and leave the twist in as much as I can that's the finger bleeding part. It's amazing when you think how much engineering is actually in all the cables. The twist in the cable is like how the planets magnetic field protects us from the sun. Twist helps keeps signal in and pushes interference such as Emi and RFI out. The twist in the cable is different from each pair because when singnals shoots out from the switch. The different twist allow for slightly different traveling speeds between the pairs Mila sec helping with crosstalk between the pairs. The A in cat6a or 7 Stands for augmented the augmentation of the cable is the thickness of the jacket, shielding, core ,gauge of the wire, and the extreme twist that's in the cable. For me cabling is one of the most important parts of the job cable stays equipment changes so if you have a customer that is buying property or is planning on staying at their office for a really long time investing in the cabling is a good idea. if they're just going to be there for a year or two then I would probably go with the Lesser cable depending on what their needs are as a company. I don't run Cat5e not for a long time with my distributors I buy enough cable that my prices are near Cat5e prices so I just install Cat6 most of the time. If your bidding a job and the job is a plenum space then the cable will be considerably more expensive near double. Watch out for the plenum. Great video guys
@AyoolaBoyejo
@AyoolaBoyejo 5 жыл бұрын
Happy to see another video from you, if possible can you advise which kind of switches you plan to use for the 10gb connections.
@kristopherleslie8343
@kristopherleslie8343 5 жыл бұрын
Ayoola Boyejo the ubnt switches are 10 gb and decent on price and performance!
@rrodriguez8675
@rrodriguez8675 4 жыл бұрын
Hi. Thanks for the video and the work you do on your channel in general. Have you address properly grounding network equipment (for home or businesses) and protection from surges and lightning? I'm interested in the topic - installing outdoor cameras - and I haven't found much yet. Thanks!
@ElmerShox
@ElmerShox 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for this! very helpful for our cable guys! we are still deplyong Cat5e in my country LAN speed is 1Gb. :)
@lightrecordsentertainment9720
@lightrecordsentertainment9720 5 жыл бұрын
My house has cat7 (in Germany) it was a lot of work to run it but it’s rally good 10gbs between switches and gigabit outlets in all the rooms
@airconnector
@airconnector 3 жыл бұрын
cat7 is not a approved standard ...
@heman248
@heman248 2 жыл бұрын
I got lion2 at my crib
@lordgarth1
@lordgarth1 5 жыл бұрын
The new(er) 2.5Gigabit and 5gigabit is supported to 100meters on both 5e and 6 so there's that.
@mogwix
@mogwix 5 жыл бұрын
I had spec'd CAT6A throughout my parents' new house, because we were planning to do a lot of 4K HDMI distribution with the structured cabling. I couldn't be around for the install so I left it to the contractor to use their judgement based on the requirements. The contractor ended up pulling "CAT6E", which looks like it's the same gauge and TPI, but with a thinner jacket and without the plastic separator. It's not that big of a deal because I think the longest cable run is 35m, but they didn't install any conduit and all the exterior walls have spray foam insulation so I can't pull any more cables or replace any lines without a lot of construction. CAT6E was a lot easier to deal with though, since I did all of the terminations. I ran CAT6A myself for the basement area and after doing that, I would really reconsider it for a new install. Good call on the modular patch panel. I'm using non-modular patch panels and I had some issues with the connections due to the strain.
@rgoodwinau
@rgoodwinau 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Not as ignorant as I was 12 minutes ago! Useful information well presented.
@iwanbo
@iwanbo 5 жыл бұрын
I never comment on KZbin videos, but had to on this to tell my tale. My employer just went through a large infrastructure upgrade to replace all our Cat5 runs with Cat6, and we also replaced of all network and server hardware. They brought a contractor in to assist with the planning for the project and they insisted on Cat6A. I argued with them that it was too expensive and not worth it for what we're doing as a business, but the contractor got their wish and spent double, if not triple on the 6A when vendors bid the rewiring job because contractors know everything. :) Ended up being 100 dual drops (one voice, one data), and the vendor was here for three to four months. It was their first experience with 6A and they went through a few patch panels before finally getting the shielded panels like shown in the video. The traditional panels you feed the cables in through the side with just kept popping loose. The vendor was so annoyed and angry with the 6A because it's so rigid and hard to work with, and it made them do more work because the power poles we had at workstation locations needed to be replaced to accommodate the large cable, the hanging in the ceiling was difficulty do to the weight of the cable, and the various panels they went through. It was a nightmare and completely not worth it.
@scwfan08
@scwfan08 5 жыл бұрын
Here in Germany we only use CAT 7 or 7A on new installs. The prices have dropped very much in the last years. And it is worth it. No more interference and you are ready for 10G in the future without having to rewire. I recently bought 900MHz CAT 7+ cable for €0,58 per meter.
@wiziek
@wiziek 5 жыл бұрын
Cat 7 is a bit of a hoax to be honest.
@bennettste
@bennettste 5 жыл бұрын
Cat6A jacks need deeper trunking\back boxes, is a pain in the arse to work with. But saying that even on my first Cat6A job I didn't experience problems your contractor did. Was they an electrician or specialized data installer.
@iwanbo
@iwanbo 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, they are licensed installers and do wiring for security cameras, networks, phones, electrical, etc. and we've used them in the past and they did a great job for us. Very clean, quick, and they were always cheaper than others. I just don't think they were ready for the 6A beast since they never had to use it before lol. I wasn't expecting it to be as bad as it was either.
@egondro9157
@egondro9157 5 жыл бұрын
iwanbo I’m curious as to whether any of the runs would go over 30m. If so then your insistence on CAT 6 is invalid. If your try to establish 10g network and the growth capabilities to future you need to ensure long term usage. CAT 6a came about due to longer infrastructure runs. Anything over 30m can’t be certified for 10g as it loses bandwidth. Only 6a has the ability to run up to 100m end to end. End to end referring connector of switch to device being connected. If none of the runs going from switch to computer or voip drop was over 30m then your cost saving would’ve been there. Curious how small the facility was for you to wire up only 30m lengths.
@mhoseinofi
@mhoseinofi 4 ай бұрын
Wiring with CAT6a is like pushing bamboo sticks through walls and trays!
@AddamJentzsch
@AddamJentzsch 2 жыл бұрын
@lawrence, several points in this video you reference length limits in Feet, but then state Meters. "Full gigabit to 300 meters"
@luctiber
@luctiber 2 жыл бұрын
Hi guys, thanks for the great video which helps as I am building my home and designing my network. I am building a network on second hand switches, routeur (Cisco) and Fortigate … now comes to the cat6a vs cat7(aor not)… my home is Fiber interconnected so 500mega. Which CAT should I go for (100 m max). Thanks for insight
@Jim_Briggs
@Jim_Briggs 5 жыл бұрын
Great information!
@AbidKhan-nu4jp
@AbidKhan-nu4jp 4 жыл бұрын
!
@Sladeofdark
@Sladeofdark 4 жыл бұрын
You guys are too kind.
@juricavidakovic2762
@juricavidakovic2762 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, that helped a lot!
@royalwhetstonejr.9082
@royalwhetstonejr.9082 4 жыл бұрын
Jurica Vidaković angled patch panels conserves space on a rack. Panduit has high density 48 port blank patch panels. Installing Cat6A and Cat7 in cubicle work environment’s is not practical because you can not maintain proper bend radius.
@notpublic7149
@notpublic7149 5 жыл бұрын
Hey guys thanks for the video! Love your content. I tried for a whole week making my own cat6 I did finally discover that the pass through termination worked best for me. However, the tool was $50 (when I already bought one standard crimper I couldn't return) so I decided to go with monoprice and color code all VLANs, trunks, etc. I also have arthritis in my hands so... I think I failed my self taught layer 1 stuff. :) I have several hundred feet of.. attempts.lol Cable management.. I will work on that, thanks again!
@notta3d
@notta3d 5 жыл бұрын
If you want to future proof cat 6 should still be fine for 10g in normal size homes? No way I'm running cables longer than 121 ft in my house.
@LAWRENCESYSTEMS
@LAWRENCESYSTEMS 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, it should be fine with just cat6
@rogejedib333
@rogejedib333 5 жыл бұрын
How does shielded Cat 6A compare to Fiber? The cable is thinner and easier to pull (harder to terminate). Interested in your input. Thanks.
@1yflow1
@1yflow1 4 жыл бұрын
The actual electronic devices that support FO are usually more expensive (vendor branded transceivers can easily go past 2-300$/pc ) and not available at all for consumer grade products. So somewhere at the edge you must switch to copper after all.
@jimreitz768
@jimreitz768 5 жыл бұрын
Would have liked to see a closeup comparison of the different types.
@Nerdtap
@Nerdtap 4 жыл бұрын
its been a while since i have had to break out my punch down tool. I was looking around for 110 punch down patch panels and they are harder to find than krone. from what I remember there was little scissor cutters on the end to clip the wires instead of a pinch edge like on my fluke 110 punch down. Any insight on krone vs 110 punchdowns ?
@defikpl
@defikpl 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@krdtabak
@krdtabak 5 жыл бұрын
I intend to pull home the customers of the cat6a. but which cable is best used for video surveillance on the street and in the house (poe), for access points of street and home(poe)?
@CharlesLScofieldJr
@CharlesLScofieldJr 4 жыл бұрын
For a residential home would use of Cat6 cable be adequate if converting to a 10 gig network is not likely in the future? I have a couple runs that are already Cat6 (my longest) but the majority of my runs are still Cat5e. I'm contemplating upgrading the Cat5e runs. Also of note, the house is a tri-level with a basement which type cable should be used when traversing between floors Plenum or Riser? I think I saw in one of your other videos where pre-made patch cables were used in conjunction with female to female keyway RJ-45 jacks that were being used at the wall plates. Do the female to female keyway jacks affect the performance of the run?
@jstaker481
@jstaker481 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Can't wait for the follow up video. Great job guys.
@Christosseventy7
@Christosseventy7 4 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, need some guidance please. I have roughly 50/50 of Cat5e and Cat6a cabled throughout the house. Should I terminate the Cat5e on a patch panel for that type of cable and get a second patch panel for the Cat6a? Or should I go down the middle and get one Cat6 patch panel and terminate the lot on it? I'm just concerned about the different wire gauges not making properly.
@AceBoy2099
@AceBoy2099 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda off question, what's your guys recommendation on connecting the ground/earth wire on those patch panels and such and to the structure ground/earth?
@MirkWoot
@MirkWoot 5 жыл бұрын
Story and question: I wired my brothers house with CAT6a, shielded and with the seperator plastic inner.. what a newbie mistake, haha. entirely overkill for a short run without the demand for great speeds, and what a pain to install, didn't even have the correct RJ45 wall panels or anything, least they were flimsy cheap ones. Not even grounded the shielding.. could this be a big issue?, in CCNA we learn there can be eletrical shock hazard, and also read elsewhere i think, that without grounding it can actually degrade the signal in the wires, rather than protecting?. PS. Happy there were close up's, were afraid there be none. But it all seemed a bit rushed, as you also said, busy time.
@TigerFont5
@TigerFont5 3 жыл бұрын
in CCNA your materials are really gearing you up for working in datacentres and other places where there is a lot of RF interference, while there is a small chance of shock, it's not that likely. In a house setting I'd say it's a negligible risk. The only issue you might have is if you've made improper terminations, over time those terminations may degrade and fail, nothing re-terminating wont fix, though
@durakis
@durakis 5 жыл бұрын
we still do a lot of CAT5e for most cable projects.
@mikel9567
@mikel9567 4 жыл бұрын
You should do a walk thru of the install truck and what you have on it.
@Zeric1
@Zeric1 4 жыл бұрын
That's a great suggestion.
@7wingsaseagles89
@7wingsaseagles89 5 жыл бұрын
True that cat5e and cat6 will meet the gigabit spec. However issues with Poe become a problem because cat6 is 1/2 a gauge larger than cat 5e. Some of the new Poe standards they do not recommend using cat5e over 150 ft. There's also a new redundancy feature they are building into ethernet they intend on packing gigabit over two pairs. This allows for link aggregation on a single ethernet cable. At 2gig primary application is for Poe phones. So the phone will have its own network connection and the PC will have its own network connection a physical connection is made in the phone that allows the computer to have its own port. Not reliant on the phone. Also allowing for dual Poe so the phone will operate on Poe and the other device plugged in can run on poe as well. However this standard will not work well on cat5e will probably be limited to a 150 feet max. Also keep in mind that at higher Network speeds like the 10-gig spectrum when cables are bundled together you can have interference from an adjacent cable commonly referred to as alien crosstalk. This can occur even on cat6 at less than 150 ft It has to do with understanding cable length and amplitude differences this is the primary reason why cat6a was developed to eliminate alien crosstalk issues. The other thing that is commonly misunderstood is shielded cable. When people think of a shielded cable they think of a cable with all the pairs in the cable having a shield around it. That is technically incorrect it is what they call screened. A true shielded cable like cat 7 we'll have each individual twisted pair shielded. This prevents what they call reflection. When you have multiple conductors in a cable with a common shield the frequency can radiate from one pair and The shield can act as a reflector and induced self on another pair. If you live in the United States the primary reason why you do not see shielded used commonly is because the United States has the FCC to regulate frequencies and RF given off by equipment within the air. However in Europe there is very little governing agency in the past that has done anything to regulate frequencies. As a contractor who works with customers all the time. budgetary matters I explain one fundamental truth the cable will always be the last thing replaced in the building. can you afford to live with substandard cable being installed from day one. Having an understanding and a grasp on the cables limitation like poe applications can help the customer make better decisions. If you are a cabling contractor or somebody intending to have a building cabled I strongly suggest that the access points be done and cat6a because of what's coming as far as network connectivity. everybody is talking about what 5G is going to do to the cellular industry but the same technology is going to filter its way into Wi-Fi as well. you have to look at it access point as a switch multiple people accessing it. For home where people are accessing the Internet it's really not necessary but in large businesses where they access stuff stored on their servers it becomes critical.
@christianh.6718
@christianh.6718 4 жыл бұрын
You guys have an upgrade video? Well I life in Germany and I learned in my training 2007 cat7 and yes it is more expansive than the lower cat 6 or 5 but if the network parts like switches or pc are going more affordable with higher speed than you didn’t have to change your hole Infrastruktur you just have to change the switches. And after my training we had that last year we change a small business from 100 mb to 1gb for all included the new ip phones system on a weekend. Because the wiring was still cat7.
@dosmaiz7361
@dosmaiz7361 5 жыл бұрын
What Cat6 modular plugs do you guys use to terminate Cat6 cables?
5 жыл бұрын
How much does it cost by node with CAT6 shield and CAT6A for let´s say 30mts distance?
@RamBeuk
@RamBeuk 11 ай бұрын
Do you need to ground both ends of a shielded cat6a cable? There's a lot of contradicting information out on there.
@Lunafilms12
@Lunafilms12 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks , Great video. New sub from Holly.
@polwelter2690
@polwelter2690 2 жыл бұрын
For high BW past 1 Gb, is it not easier and cheaper (including the tranceivers) to just run fibers?
@SwapnilBhartiya
@SwapnilBhartiya 2 жыл бұрын
So you are more worried about your fingers bleeding vs what speed does a customer need.
@James_Knott
@James_Knott 2 жыл бұрын
There's one very important point about shielded cable. The shield must be connected to ground at one and only one point for the shield to be effective. If it's not, the shield is wasted money. Also, I have been on a couple of jobs, both for government organizations, where shielded CAT6 cable was used. Neither had anywhere near the bandwidth to justify even Gb. Well, it's government money, so there's lots more where that came from . I've also had the "pleasure" of putting RJ45 plugs on shielded CAT6.
@turtleturtle4909
@turtleturtle4909 3 жыл бұрын
Trying to find a video on the pros and cons on racks for small to medium home cable management. I hope that makes sense.
@LAWRENCESYSTEMS
@LAWRENCESYSTEMS 3 жыл бұрын
Pros are the cables management looks much better and keeps things organized, con is that it takes more time and money.
@turtleturtle4909
@turtleturtle4909 3 жыл бұрын
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS Sorry, my question was not clear enough. I have decided to purchase a rack, but unable to weed through the jungle of racks to select one. I am searching for a rack and wanted to know pros/cons of the different makes, models and options. What are good manufacturers and models. For example, Panduit comes to mind because I have seen that used in our data center, but may be way expensive and overkill for my use. In my case, the space I have available is a close under a stairwell (39" wide x 50" deep x 109" high). The door opening is 27" wide x 96" high. I did find a video you where you showed the StarTack: kzbin.info/www/bejne/enuadKRrh6eWj6c I guess I am looking for more about product education on what to look for and consider when select a Rack. Thanks for doing the videos.
@CrypticConsole
@CrypticConsole 3 жыл бұрын
Wow this video is nice
@rodneyhenry27
@rodneyhenry27 4 жыл бұрын
What cable to run for hikvision cameras 5mp in 2000 sqft house
@IvanITpro
@IvanITpro 4 жыл бұрын
Like your videos, very informative for us IT pros and DIY guys. I know this video was posted 2 years ago and things might've changed... but from what I'm able to see is a typical business owner trying to do everything himself in the video... I've been there, we seem to think we know more ;) but in reality it just doesn't make a great impression on us - the viewers. Especially when you have Corey, who does this work all day - I would've actually preferred to hear a lot more from him about the cabling, patch panels...from his everyday experience with it. So i don't know... delegate maybe and some close ups of the wire shields would've been nice to see in the video. Otherwise, thanks!! (from Rochester MI btw :)
@LAWRENCESYSTEMS
@LAWRENCESYSTEMS 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I think...lol Corey does not always like doing all the videos, he likes doing the cabling.
@IvanITpro
@IvanITpro 4 жыл бұрын
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS Lol, sounds good! :)
@SaroG
@SaroG 5 жыл бұрын
Why use CAT6A for >50m switch interconnects when you can run fiber (OM3/OM4) instead for a lot less?
@mikel9567
@mikel9567 4 жыл бұрын
Because running CAT cabling is far simpler, faster and cheaper than running fiber. To buy the equipment to install, splice, and test fiber is expensive. Additionally, there are the safety concerns with fiber systems especially if it's a big system. Training employees to install fiber is time consuming and expensive.
@armada173
@armada173 4 жыл бұрын
Hi guys , is tru Cat6 Cable shielded any good or do name brands matter?
@psilver03
@psilver03 3 жыл бұрын
Newbie question, I have 5e on everything but I’m adding a keystone patch panel. All the keystones I see states Cat6. Can I use them without any physical compatibility issues? Thanks.
@TigerFont5
@TigerFont5 3 жыл бұрын
You've probably done this by now, but yes, you can.
@daviddavidsonn3578
@daviddavidsonn3578 5 жыл бұрын
no cat7 or cat8 ?
@bikingchupei2447
@bikingchupei2447 2 жыл бұрын
i've seen a guy do real world tests(it was even way back at 2015) on cat5e cables and he got 10gig iperf speeds on a 60+ meter cat5e cable, if you are only reading off a spec sheet, it will always be 1gig.
@scwfan08
@scwfan08 5 жыл бұрын
In Germany we basically just use CAT 7 or even 7A for new installs.
@Noodles.FreeUkraine
@Noodles.FreeUkraine 5 жыл бұрын
True that. Cat7 indiscriminately all the way to the farthest 10/100 cam just because. Now, I usually don't get involved into cables but when I do, I'm always happy to fight cables with a 3' diameter. Gah.
@am385
@am385 5 жыл бұрын
Cat 7 is not recognized by TIA/EIA. That is a big deal in the US.
@scwfan08
@scwfan08 5 жыл бұрын
am385 That's why I mentioned 7A.
@Noodles.FreeUkraine
@Noodles.FreeUkraine 5 жыл бұрын
Not supported either. Not like that could hold me back if I wanted a higher quality cable, though. Then again I like cables that I don't have to call in The Rock for bending them a degree or two.
@eternaldrive
@eternaldrive 5 жыл бұрын
In countries where the cost of labor is high you really want to pull the best you can afford. I wouldn't recommend running CAT5e but I guess if that's all you can afford then that's what's going in. It will still be more stable than Wifi - though that has improved significantly over the wireless G days.
@evald80
@evald80 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, one strange scenario. Cables from one side ends to a Patch panel cat6 and on the other side are rj45 connectors. Using the tester, all pins are ok but when connecting with computer, again everything works but some links are 100mbits and some other 1gbs. What can be the issue?
@Zeric1
@Zeric1 4 жыл бұрын
I've seen this happen. A simple continuity tester (cable scanner) will not reveal high resistance marginal connections that an expensive cable certifier would easily find. It could be an issue with your RJ45 ends, I've had some cheap ones that just don't always terminate well (and I've had other cheap ones that work great). Start with re-terminating a couple of the RJ45 ends with high quality ones to try and determine which end is the problem.
@evald80
@evald80 4 жыл бұрын
@@Zeric1 we changed rverything except the cable and that did not fixed so guess what: it was a crappy cable. Changed the cable and magically the issues disappeared :)
@Zeric1
@Zeric1 4 жыл бұрын
@@evald80 A bad cable is less common but possible. Sometimes it's how it was run, a sharp bend, running too close to an electrical lines, etc. Glad you got it worked out.
@T.P.030
@T.P.030 3 жыл бұрын
It is just ridiculous that Cat6 cables without shielding are existing. I really thought, that even the US have learned, that shielding is the most important thing to avoid ingress and interference. Just unbelievable!
@toothybj
@toothybj 3 жыл бұрын
I’m getting ready to wire my house for ethernet and would like to be able to do 10GB. I have a 2-story house w/the server/comm room upstairs kind of mid-house, so the longest run I’ll need to do is probably 60-80 feet or so. CAT 6 seems like the way to go here, but would I get any benefit from having the shielded CAT 6A plugs and keystone jacks? Or just stick with the same CAT 6 type for everything? Thanks for the content guys - subscribed!
@keithratliff2347
@keithratliff2347 2 жыл бұрын
I am Designing my house between each floor is going be service space. Network with server between basement and main floor wifi on main floor wifi second floor wifi in basement. Cat 6 on all floors. I need your help design all the hook ups
@didnthurt4077
@didnthurt4077 5 жыл бұрын
So cat6 is the way to go at the moment? Was about to purchase cat6a, but rather not cause i need to wire it through tight spaces. Some installation company offered me a wiring-job with around 300m cat7 for over 500€ ..mkay, no thanks! Thats seriously overpriced i rather DIY with help of a friend.
@boukeelsinghorst4848
@boukeelsinghorst4848 4 жыл бұрын
Can cat5e cable be used on a cat6 patchpanel?
@BrooksyTech
@BrooksyTech 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, it should work fine. They are the same wiring layout.
@lepricated
@lepricated 5 жыл бұрын
panduit mini coms are so easy to terminate. better than keystone punch down style
@fredtheilig9636
@fredtheilig9636 5 жыл бұрын
I find that Cat 6 unshielded is much cheaper than Cat 5e.
@stevengao8345
@stevengao8345 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry allow me ask a noob question: why we even need ethernet patch panel, why not just directly plug it in to switch or router, thanks
@arifjay6756
@arifjay6756 5 жыл бұрын
steven Gao makes for easier troubleshooting for large jobs, if you ever have to go back.
@JordanYemothy
@JordanYemothy 4 жыл бұрын
If it ever failed or the cable is busted, then you have to reroute though the walls and crawl spaces; just a pain. If you patch into a patch panel, it is essentially like a keystone jack on the other end. That cable will never be touched and has less chance of failure.
@JJFlores197
@JJFlores197 4 жыл бұрын
The other two answers are good as well. You could technically put an RJ45 connector and plug the cable directly into the switch and it will work. However, you don't want to do this because those cables aren't really meant to be moved around a lot. From the patch panel, you would plug in a patch cable to the switch to make the connection. This makes it easier to troubleshoot and not have to worry about potentially damaging the cable and having to re-run it.
@xn0gaming
@xn0gaming 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, is he wearing Hawaii shorts? Nice presentation. xD
@roc342
@roc342 Ай бұрын
Does he still work for the new company
@nexushexus4365
@nexushexus4365 3 жыл бұрын
Cat 7 and 8 has NOT been fully standardized yet. Each brand has their own "standards".
@LAWRENCESYSTEMS
@LAWRENCESYSTEMS 3 жыл бұрын
I will just leave this here kzbin.info/www/bejne/oX_EkHyam86pgdU
@micheleventimiglia8449
@micheleventimiglia8449 3 жыл бұрын
hello can I close what you need 2 network cards in a server
@bluegizmo1983
@bluegizmo1983 3 жыл бұрын
Soooo, what your saying is... If your doing a huge job where small price differences will add up to a lot, cat6 or cat5e may be the solution. But if your wiring your home which will only be a handful of drops, maybe a dozen, then it's cat6a or cat7 for all! Hell, maybe just wire the whole house with Cat6a AND fiber in every room! 😂😁
@shinku5463
@shinku5463 4 жыл бұрын
Just go modular with all of your patches even Patch 6,5 using a keystone patch. I actually hate those punch down patch panels. since just adding a single cable would require me to take it off the damn rack.
@velocityacoustics
@velocityacoustics 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Modular is so much better. You can reconfigure, add, whatever. So much easier.
@Zeric1
@Zeric1 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, however the total cost might be slightly higher for keystone so that may be the driving factor in a large installation. In those situations, the lowest bidder is not likely concerned about future cabling. I'm sure if the RFQ specified modular/keystone patch panels, that is what would be quoted and done.
@gh8447
@gh8447 5 жыл бұрын
This may be a dumb question but if they want 10G speeds, why not just use fibre?
@hanko12345
@hanko12345 5 жыл бұрын
Good point...and that is what I too was thinking...why not just fibre?
@am385
@am385 5 жыл бұрын
Fiber is not as friendly to run with termination being difficult. Plus the install might be smaller and it could be cheaper to go 10G-BaseT
@hanko12345
@hanko12345 5 жыл бұрын
Understandable...yes fibre can be a pain....but it sure sounds like cat 6a is a pain too...and costly.
@pv6596
@pv6596 5 жыл бұрын
am385 Fiber is terminated easily now days mate. $300 dlls worth of equipment, presto! Faster than you can put an RJ45 jack, or punch ethernet down. Check KZbin for getting up to speed.
@pv6596
@pv6596 5 жыл бұрын
Same question I had right away. I would never install Cat7. Cat6 sure. Pre-made cables only. Other than that, fiber for any long run that needs more than 1Gb (Cat7 patch cables ok, but again, pre-made!). Fiber is immune to interference, more power efficient (power to transmit) than copper, faster speeds, REAL future-proofing as can doble, quadruple and more the bandwidth once you add colors. Also, there is no inherent speed limitation like in copper: Faster speeds with newer lasers/leds/electronics.
@HammerHeid1
@HammerHeid1 11 ай бұрын
Cat5e 300m for 1gigabit do you not mean feet
@FlowerPowerNZ
@FlowerPowerNZ 5 жыл бұрын
CAT6A UTP is the cheapest cable here.
@dosmaiz7361
@dosmaiz7361 5 жыл бұрын
We just bought a house and I was going to run Cat6a. Guess I'll just stick to Cat 6 instead! LOL
@COMTEKSS
@COMTEKSS 5 жыл бұрын
Dos Maiz go with CAT6a shielded cos you can then run HDMI distribution over it like systems from oneav.co.uk
@bensgoog
@bensgoog 5 жыл бұрын
Richard Cooke you can run HDMI over CAT5E unless you're talking 4k 2|2|2 chroma then yes cat6A is the way to go or Crestron ultra cable if you don't like money :)
@COMTEKSS
@COMTEKSS 5 жыл бұрын
Ben Jones correct, HDMI over CAT5 also has a length restriction of about 35m. Every house I've done has been in CAT6a shielded and yes it cost more and yes it's harder to install but it's fit and forget in the knowledge that you won't have any problems. We did a job for a customer and planned on using CAT6a they then said that they would pull in all the cables for us to terminate. When we got there they pulled CAT5e un-shielded, data worked fine but HDMI was a mess 😕
@bensgoog
@bensgoog 5 жыл бұрын
Richard Cooke For sure sheilded CAT6 would be my preference, you know if there's a problem it's likely the cable somewhere, and it's the minimum spec for Atlona, Savant, Kramer RX TX devices. But if you have the money Crestron will do lossy 4k over cat5e upto 50M. Maybe you should have told the customer what they saved in wire they get to spend in twice the equipment cost :)
@lowvoltagedude7837
@lowvoltagedude7837 5 жыл бұрын
Ben Jones lol good one bro I think if you own your property than spend it on the infrastructure cabling. Cabling stays in the walls and equipment changes all the time. Future proof the best you can Saves you later. I super drunk damn diet and straight shots on the rocks.
@OddWoz
@OddWoz 5 жыл бұрын
Someone seems annoyed by running Cat6A....
@pabloandres4916
@pabloandres4916 4 жыл бұрын
J L right!! I was like ok I get it man
@ForbiddenUser403
@ForbiddenUser403 4 жыл бұрын
What's cheaper? Doing an initial Cat7 install right from the start, utilizing only gigabit speeds, or realizing you have to rewire your entire building once the prices drop on 10gb switches and adapters? I don't personally like having to rewire the same building multiple times. I don't like crawling through crawl spaces, I don't like stabbing roofing nails into my skull climbing through attics.. I hate spider webs and sore knees and backs... I'll always push as hard as I can for customers to go with an initial Cat7 install making sure they realize how much more it's going to cost them in the future to upgrade vs just being able to swap out a switch and a few network cards. Remember... No one would ever need more than 640k of ram.. Same with network speeds.
@timschmalenberger4767
@timschmalenberger4767 4 жыл бұрын
In germany cat 7 is Standard since ca. 2010... i Never ran anything Else as cat 7 ...
@Zeric1
@Zeric1 4 жыл бұрын
This is a US based video and Cat7 isn't recognized by Telecommunications Industry Association, the Electronics Industry Alliance, or the Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers (IEEE). Cat7 is a proprietary standard and it's global unpopularity as a migration path is what led to the development of Cat6A.
@k8kzhradiotipsandreviews31
@k8kzhradiotipsandreviews31 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a ham radio operator. i'm sorry did he say RF frequency.
@real_ultrajoe
@real_ultrajoe 4 жыл бұрын
What probably cat7 or cat8
@julius5632
@julius5632 3 жыл бұрын
1:34 300 meter not ft
@qcsfinest7041
@qcsfinest7041 5 жыл бұрын
Bleeding fingers? 6A is twice as hard to pull? 5x as long to put on a shielded jack? 300 meters? Lol you guys are lost. Can we get a video of you guys working? I would love to see the bleeding fingers and watch you guys pull cable and terminate.
@webluke
@webluke 5 жыл бұрын
LoL all these people in the comments talking about over kill ideas. In truth most users / applications 100Mbps is actually over kill even. Gigabit is good to have, as every standard computer comes with it, network equipment is cheep at that speed, and Cat-5e / Cat-6 is cheep and common. 10Gbps is nice between switches and servers (Back hall). But if your doing long runs or even short runs, put in fiber chase, pre-turminated fiber from your central switching and outer switching locations. And for that guy running POE long distances, its not the cable its the distance, of course the thicker cable with shielding dose better.
@chip2139
@chip2139 2 жыл бұрын
100 Meters or 300 feet. Not 300 meters
@cablinge
@cablinge 4 жыл бұрын
boi
@jcclark2060
@jcclark2060 4 жыл бұрын
My Cat 6A comes in a box. Must be a bad distributor that you go to that only has reels. Reels, like loaded patch panels, are for the stupid who like to work harder.
@Zeric1
@Zeric1 4 жыл бұрын
The video is 2 years old, but most Cat6a I've seen still comes on a spool, however that spool may be hidden inside a box. Spools are often the only option depending on the media and are not just "for the stupid", for example I've never seen a 1000' of fiber that didn't come on a spool. Open spools (not in a box) have additional setup work, however the cable pulls out with no twists vs a box that does not have an internal spool. Having no twists can make the runs easier, depending on situation.
@ccie.master
@ccie.master 4 жыл бұрын
Please Help: I am planning to open my own company in Canada-Montreal, I have no idea how much I am supposed to charge my future customers for wiring "labor" cat5e/cat6/cat6A, any idea what are the current prices for labors ??? Is it paid by meters or by hours ??? please help me. Thanks a lot in advance.
@keenansmith6247
@keenansmith6247 4 ай бұрын
Cat5e and Cat6 have a quality distance of 300 FEET NOT 300 METERS. Each box holds 1000FT you can't use damn near that entire box for 1 run. 😂 And you.didnt mention Plenum rated cable. Youre breaking codes depending on the cabling environment
@kellyash45
@kellyash45 5 жыл бұрын
12-13 and your fingers are sore? Hahahahahaha! Amatuers!
@fhoneman
@fhoneman 3 жыл бұрын
Hardly anyone uses cat 6a
@pv6596
@pv6596 5 жыл бұрын
Make your life/work easier by buying pre-made cables and using keystone pass through patch panels. Either coil the extra length neatly, or simply cut one end and install RJ45 (still easier than behind a patch panel) and you already saved half the work. Work smarter, not harder!
@urofseron
@urofseron 5 жыл бұрын
Amateur
@paulsccna2964
@paulsccna2964 5 жыл бұрын
Video could have been cut down to 15 seconds, Cat6 hard to work with, more expensive, uses different jacks, see...shows 100 mile view of cabling and jacks. Done.
@stephenhunter70
@stephenhunter70 5 жыл бұрын
There isn't much point in going 10Gbps for internet stuff when your ISP is providing 100Mbps
@bensgoog
@bensgoog 5 жыл бұрын
My ISP is trialling 2Gbps in my city
@gc9575
@gc9575 5 жыл бұрын
That is something that you define based on the customers needs. According to type and direction of traffic... not by looking the crystal ball
@nestorceballosjyy1986
@nestorceballosjyy1986 5 жыл бұрын
this video is all about complaining
@GW2_Live
@GW2_Live 4 жыл бұрын
I can't believe you guys were installing CAT5e in 2018, that's just sad man. the price difference between 5E & 6 is negligible.
@Zeric1
@Zeric1 4 жыл бұрын
I agree the price difference isn't too significant when factoring in the labor and for a full build out Cat6 makes sense. However, consider this situation: an existing building has all Cat5e to their 150 end points and they need to add 2 more drops in each of the 6 conference rooms. Is there any point in making those 12 drops Cat6? No, not at all.
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