How Much Should Games Cost?

[@itsfy_]

15-20$ indie game my beloved

[@alphonsejohnson5601]

I will NEVER forget that Toby Fox gave us Deltarune chapter 2, A great step up from chapter 1 in terms of quality, music, Boss battles and lore for FREE!! Simply because fans were not having a great year. He did say we have to pay for chapters 3 and 4, But that price will be worth it, ESPECIALLY after the awesomeness of chapter 2.

[@itsfy_]

@@alphonsejohnson5601 Cant wait for the new chapters.

[@filip9564]

Yeah but sometimes you want to play some games with a lot stuff in it

[@itsfy_]

@@filip9564 dude hollow knight 15 dollar game more content than any other AAA Metroidvania, Celeste which I've got 435 hours of content out of 20 bucks. Plus I have no need or desire to play a AAA game

[@n7x]

Hollow knight is goated, geometry dash is also a steal. I also have over 300 hours on terraria on pc, and on mobile I probably had another 500-1000 hours. The binding of Isaac repentance is definitely more expensive (it goes on sale often though so it’s not too bad) but I have over 500 hours in that. Indie games are just so good

[@larsthedude1984]

Game corporations arguing “games are too expensive to make these days we need to raise it to $70” meanwhile give CEOs another 20 million dollar bonus and pay the overworked devs who haven’t seen their families in weeks a non-livable wage.

[@skiez7430]

$60k a year is livable. But theres other software jobs that pay more

[@michaelbowman6684]

@@skiez7430 It's inexcusable is what it is, shareholders kill companies by making them only care about making their stock look good on paper, therefore giving the CEO massive bonuses makes them look more successful than they actually are, and laying off "useless" workers makes their bottom line look better than it actually is. They only care about short term profits because every one of them is ready to jump ship the moment the company starts going under, they are _relying_ on it to go under.

[@Bolt451]

@@skiez7430 liveable doesn't mean that its not still atrocious for the value they produce to their companies and for how long they work

[@bloodyidit4506]

@@skiez7430 60k is barely more then a good retail position. My former boss is a low level manager and he gets 56k per year bro this is a skilled job and it gets absolutely NOTHING for it.

[@Blabernaber]

@@skiez7430some times the places devs are demanded to live around are way more expensive, so this point is kinda mute

[@RetroCheats]

Companies going digitial, means they're not wasting as much money on packaging. Which means companies should really not go $70 since they're making more money for each game.

[@spugelo359]

No money wasted on disc either... $70 is a scam delivered by the corpo investors.

[@yoboi21xd90]

And also you dont own the game

[@Kenshiro438]

When I used to read eBooks on Kindle, they were mostly less expensive than physical books. It should be the same for games.

[@mr.p215]

@@spugelo359 delivered by the corpo and defended by the shills, what a tragic time to be alive for the gaming industry.

[@RealSpaceChild]

it's ironic that physical is usually cheaper because competing retailers. brand new games usually are around 60€ - 50€ in these stores. while psstore charges 80€ here. 💀

[@nathanrwin]

Games need to go on sale more often and for cheaper. Games that are 5+ years old are still at least $50 base price and go on sale for $30. It used to not be like this.

[@bobtom1495]

Yeah, you used to be able to go into a store and get it cheaper.... oh wait, you people decided you were too lazy and went digital, my bad....

[@tacticianAlexandra]

makes me think of some of the total war games. even if the base game is super cheap. Thrown in all the dlc and even while on sale, can still be 40 or more if you care about having all the content for what is a rather old game. Which can be a big turn off to some folk and turn them away from giving a game a try. Just due to still costing an arm and leg years later. Which is why certain indie titles might be more appealing. Given they can be way cheaper and in some cases, less buggy and more stable than a triple a title.

[@mweeee]

you can get a lot of cheap key codes for Steam and Playstation games there’s no Nintendo keys, though

[@jellytime5499]

agreed. Friend of mine wanted to buy COD: black ops 2 on steam to play some older zombies... that game is still $60

[@THEONETRUEOVERLORD]

Then there are Nintendo games… also it’s probably better if they don’t go on sale so you don’t feel cheated for buying year 1.

[@ThatWolfArrow]

I don't think the ballooning budgets are just because of games taking longer and needing more resources to make, but also because most of the big studios are run by businessmen and not gamers now. And when it comes to more creative fields (film, music, games, etc), business-types are known to just throw increasingly more absurd amounts of cash at problems instead of actually figuring out what their projects need.

[@Leonkennedy19992]

Yeah I 100% agree with this

[@Alpha_GameDev-wq5cc]

100%, they think the people they are throwing money at are supposed to figure it out… which is drenched in arrogance and naivety because no employee can ever benefit as much from their solutions as the suits throwing the money will… so why would the employees bother solving a problem when they can just keep a paycheck while “trying” to solve the problem.

[@binaryboopsva]

The typical approach is just contractors, throwing money and breaking teams up. Like one of the main components of software engineering, let alone game creation, isn't clear communication and cooperation. How do they fuck up that badly??

[@harambae7014]

Its the same problem hollywood is facing. Nobody asked for ever single game to have a massive budget, crammed with every feature and game mode you can think of and several years of constant updates, just like nobody asked for every movie to have bleeding edge VFX and a star-studded cast. Games, like movies, are expensive because publishers decided to make it that way.

[@huntey]

"hell hath no fury like a gamer spurned" i say while watching this on tthe toilet

[@lukew6725]

Here's an idea, what if we switch it around so indie games cost $70 and AAA games cost $30? That way it'll actually be an accurate representation of the quality.

[@turtleanton6539]

Indeed 😊

[@Jordanisokatnth]

Yknow indie games are smaller

[@GreatWhiteElf]

​@@Jordanisokatnth it's not the size that matters, it's how you use it

[@Otherface]

No. That's a horrible idea. One benefit behind indie games is how accesible they are compared to AAA games. Not only do they require fewer resources, but also cost less. Like 10-20 dollars. By making them 60 to 70$, you will take away such accessibility to the people, and it will also leave incredibly high expectations and standards to a genre of games that isn't known for reaching such standarda. Like, imagine if you find a 2d pixel art game that is good enough. Now make it cost 70$. The game is good, yes. But not 70$ good. In fact, by making them 70$, you are also showing a greedy side to, again, a genre that isn't known to that. Which will harm more indie games, as they will have a terrible reputation. Don't get it twisted; i'm not defending AAA games. In fact, i do agree with your point of *(SOME)* AAA games costing 30$. But if i see a 70$, i may as well expect a 70$ masterpiece. Indie games are great. Some are masterpieces. But most of them are not 70$ masterpieces. No. In fact, no videogame should cost 70 to begin with! 60$ was already too much!!

[@xxGreenRoblox]

@@Otherface Yeah everyone who doesn't have a job will be very angry at raising that price tag

[@notonthrax]

I think one of my favourite instances of game pricing is the Yakuza/Like a Dragon series. Recently, this year, "Yakuza: Like a Dragon" didn't just go on sale, it had permanently went down in price. The game, which released in november of 2020, had went from £54.99 to £15.99. This is only a 4 year old game, and RGG Studios/SEGA decided to permanently lower the price. Such a price decrease, and you have 100's of hours of content.

[@turtleanton6539]

Nice😊

[@REDEEMERWOLF]

RGG games are always great value for the price. Especially after price drops like you said. The fact you can get pretty much the whole yakuza series for the same price as a new game is amazing.

[@crazyfreakyben]

they once put the entire series on sale for 30 bucks. FOR ALL GAMES. RGG is pretty generous, love their RPGs.

[@finesseandstyle]

As long as people buy games on release, studios will keep increasing the prices, it's simple as that. Something like gta 6 can charge $80 and still easily sell 10 million copies on its first day simply because there are folks who rarely buy games and justifying that price for a mega production kind of game makes sense

[@gigachad624]

You sure only 10 million copies

[@finesseandstyle]

@gigachad624 That's the bare minimum, it's gonna be a lot more in reality

[@continental_consumer]

I mean GTA6 is fair because its very long and replayable + super hyped up. Nintendo's 2 poorly optimised ports of 3ds games should not be costing 60$ each.

[@ryze9153]

​@@continental_consumerbut that's one fucking game. If every new game starts being 80, 90, 100$ then we got a real problem.

[@binaryboopsva]

@@continental_consumer Well they were considering charging people to pay by time. So we'll see about how fair GTA 6 is tbh

[@mosura2695]

He remembered his password folks

[@whatevercal3056]

Ah yess. A classic comment. Definitely a statement of the higher.

[@shiloh9557]

I resent everything you stand for

[@michaelwesten4624]

yeah haha so funny and original

[@UncleJemima]

peak yt comment section

[@D-Doc-C]

One singular joke

[@Skelly0681]

Studying for an exam that decides if I get to stay in college or not is less important than watching a new stryxo upload

[@lilixpictures6128]

Good luck on your exam!

[@joshuajefferson3504]

Sorry to hear that college is scamming you into debt. 😂😂

[@cliffturbo2146]

I'm curious. How is a college in a nutshell?

[@jux3283]

​@@joshuajefferson3504 at least hes not in a trade working in the sun

[@honoraryjew]

every game is free if you look in the right places

[@Jjonnnnnn]

thats what I'm saying 😂

[@TheBcoolGuy]

They should cost what people are willing to pay for them. Having a standard price is a good marketing strategy, but ultimately, if you increase the prices too much, you will only cater to rich gamers. Steam's sales strike a great balance. Those who want to play the game right away will buy it full price. Those who kedp an eye on it (thus wanting it) and wait will get a serious discount, and those who buy at launch, missing out on most reviews, will usually get it at a launch discount.

[@MrThhg]

Unless it’s a Microsoft game….

[@Heyheyhey0475]

Okay so 80$?

[@deathtrooper2048]

Steam is not the only platform with sales and have worse sales than consoles usually.

[@corey2232]

They should stop using inflation as an excuse, especially when your customers aren't getting cost of living pay increases each year to keep up with inflation. If you made $40,000 a year in 2006, you were making more than if you make $50,000 today. So a game costing $60 back then was still cheaper than a $70 game is for people today. That's not even factoring in how many games are sold with content cut for day 1 DLC or future expansions, all the microtransactions, or the insane amount of $100 - $200 launch editions with bonuses... Also, that doesn't factor in that companies make WAY more from digital games today than the predominantly physical games they sold nearly 20 years ago.

[@TheBcoolGuy]

@@corey2232 I agree and I forgot to include that in my original comment, though it would've perhaps not been concise enough. It's a thought I've had for quite a while. This giant game model is just financially unsustainable. It probably would've already collapsed if it weren't tradition. Inflation makes us poorer than we were before and regulations and many other shady things make the market really, really difficult to get ahead in. If people had serious money, they'd have power and freedom. I won't rant about this stuff here, but it is an important part of the puzzle. With love. -TheBcoolGuy

[@thatsruffdog]

“Stop defending $70 games.” *”Stop buying games for $70.”*

[@madmaster0015]

I think we also need to discuss the fact we know games don't HAVE to be $70. We have many games of varying prices. Game can cost 15, 20, 30...and often these cheaper games have just as much support and quality or even even more than AAA games. I could recommend you dozens of games below $30 right now that are fun, polished, and you might love. You have to justify that new $70 price by being not only amazing or polished, but downright game changing of a game.

[@tacticianAlexandra]

which unless it a nintendo game. Odds are, that triple a game is going to go on sale very shortly after release. That simply waiting a few months, can lead to a heavy discount. Letting you save that money or put it forward towards another game, that has caught your interesting. That and given there is as you say. Many cheaper games out there, be they indie or something else. Making it easier to take a chance on them, when buying i, ist not going to burn a hole in your pocket.

[@joylechanceux4805]

Yeah exactly, to me 20 to 40$ (or € for me) games are the best priced and some of my favorite games ever, games like Minecraft, Slime Rancher, BTD6 which is even less than 20€ I believe, and a lot of other games that are just as good for an alright price range

[@slenderfoxx3797]

Not to mention all these games are riddled with micro transactions

[@ManInTheBox404]

If prices increase, I'd be happy if all games had a playable demo and multiplayer games had a timed trial

[@Majimba_Enjoyer]

as a professional sailor of the seven seas: prices shouldnt be the same for every damn aaa game. something like tears of the kingdom deserves 70$ but something like cod bo6 should really be more like 30$ due to it releasing yearly and currently its just smarter to get gamepass instead of buying the game every year. so if i think a game is priced too high i wont wait for a sale i will just crack that mf

[@THEONETRUEOVERLORD]

I think it depends on One: will people buy it full price anyway? Two: how much did it cost to make/make back+profit? Sure some games are objectively better than others so it would make sense they should cost more but sadly that’s not how it works.

[@DaDarkDragon]

Totk does not deserve the 70 buck price tag.

[@wOlP5027]

How?​@@DaDarkDragon

[@numpy979]

@@wOlP5027 it runs on atrocious hardware

[@wanderingwobb6300]

​@@wOlP5027Tears is running on 7th gen hardware. Nintendo didn't even wait for a "next generation experience" before jumping the gun. I could never own a (unmodded) switch with how exorbitant Nintendo game prices are when they're not even a cut above the rest of the industry. Luckily I have emulation for the few titles that do interest me but even then it's not a lot.

[@zackaroom]

0:54 No, that’s “The Guy” from Spy Kids 3 😂

[@jacobwalker4398]

Cake

[@Obsidian8R]

"The Guy?"

[@ilkeryoldas]

"Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game."

[@JohnWolf2007]

As a kid a 20 dollar game seemed SUPER EXPENSIVE to me

[@bits360wastaken]

Path of exile 2? Baldur's Gate 3? Deep rock galactic?

[@EChere]

Patient gamer gang

[@n7x]

That’s why I wait a few years for the games to go on sale. Bought doom 2016 for only $8 this way

[@hellofend4734]

ive played nearly a thousand hours of rimworld and not counting the price of the stuff people gifted to me, i spent 85$ on the game. thats 0.085$ per hour. bad take.

[@TheMan1123581321]

The only games worth somewhat €60-70 are the absolute best games like Zelda TOTK, Baldurs Gate 3, Elden Ring

[@shauncameron8390]

Namely RPG's and (open-world) adventure games.

[@NullAlt]

Cant wait to rewatch this until its fried into my synapes. Thank you Stryxo

[@selunescorpio]

I never buy a game day 1. Chances of it being a broken, buggy mess are too high and for a $70 or higher price that’s absolutely unacceptable. I wait for a sale

[@MH-Reviews]

I do want to elaborate more on what you said at 2:45 . In Norway most AAA games cost around 80$. Spiderman 2 cost 91$. PC componets cost shitloads. For example, the 4080 founder edition in Norway cost as much as the 4080 super founders edition in the us. The ps5 pro cost 699$ according to walmart. In Norway, the ps5 pro cost 916$. Just a few years ago, i could buy 2 games for 100$ in Norway. Now i can barerly buy 1 game for the same price. The prices for everything now costs to so much, that gaming is now one of the most expensive hobbies. The only way i was able to get a 1tb steam deck, was that a store had a opening sale. They sold steam deck 64gb for 360$. I managed to get my hands on one of them. I found a 1tb ssd on amazon for less than 100$ and got someone to change the steam deck drive with my 1tb ssd, that cost me around 63$. And i also purchased a screen protector and a 500gb sd card. And with all of that i only paid a bit over 600$. Thats 400$ dollar diffrence between my steam deck and the 512gb steam deck. And i have 3 times the disc space and mine is also a lot faster

[@TheCrusader501]

HE’S ALIVE

[@VforValencia1948]

Every game is $20 if you are patient enough. Most games are half baked disasters at release anyways.

[@cowinjapanese6896]

Dragon Age Origins is still $30

[@epzo]

Yup. most games from 2024 shouldve costed $10 ngl

[@ZaLewdWarudo]

I haven't bought a game at full price in maybe 12 years. I don't need the new hotness when it's new. I can wait for sales. My backlog is so long that I genuinely will probably die of old age before I play all the games I own. The price of a brand new game has never been an issue for me. If you're impatient and wanna pay full price for something, that's on you. Keep feeding the machine while I reap the rewards of patience.

[@turtleanton6539]

Inde3d😊

[@theyuca-clan4239]

$49.99 that’s how much

[@MccandlessH]

no objections

[@eclxys]

this should be the MAXIMUM

[@jkd610]

Aren't games on pc, ps and xbox all dirt cheap? Plus all pc gamers are just pirates anyway.

[@MaoRatto]

Jkd... No? Those "Pirates" are mostly people who want 1. No DRM or 2. Make a darn demo for the love of god as... It helps curb that behavior...

[@mitw153]

@@jkd610 thats an advantage pc has over console, you got free games and later if you liked the game you buy it edit: also mods, which is a very huge advantage

[@THEONETRUEOVERLORD]

8:58 I hate to be that guy but gaming being a larger industry doesn’t mean it’s more profitable because companies have spent a lot of money expanding it. It really depends on the company. By most accounts PlayStation has horrible profit margins meanwhile Capcom is reaching record highs.

[@mutedspectre2941]

im so happy youre almost at 200k. I still remember when you were at 4k with only a few videos. Always been a favorite.

[@zaherbaveaur]

2:55 goated

[@joshuajefferson3504]

Alot of games in my backlog are under 30$. 😂😂

[@Trevorcraft71]

I think it would be good of more of these larger games companies sunk, but I would hope the talent behind those games form into smaller studios or whatnot to produce actual good stuff compared to your $70 + battle pass + weapon skins + weapon skins + weapon skins + weapon skins + weapon skins + weapon skins etc. etc.

[@thearbitersteven6503]

Games should still be 60 dollars, there's no excuse for the price increase at all, when the quality has gone downhill or it's just another remake or remastered game.

[@Monstahunt]

Respect to this Man for remembering America isn't the Ceter of the Universe and calling out the fact other countries have it worse with gaming prices...While US is a big Market, it's still only 30% of the overall market

[@DoggedlyHandsome]

I’ve actually found myself spending less on games after the 70$ price hike because it encouraged me to wait for sales and take greater advantage of pre owned products

[@TheReal_N-I-F-F]

2:35 sneaky face reveal?

[@sadisticservant]

I find it quite funny how steam games are so cheap here in the Philippines. Games that would normally go for 40$ on consoles are priced for less than 20$ here on steam. Of course, my obssession with phyiscal collection still makes me want to get the more expensive route (even if I already got them digitally)

[@KTree-WF]

40$ or less (preferably less) there that’s the ideal price for *ALL “AAA” GAMES*

[@ghalliz3745]

being fron a country with relatively low steam prices seeing them rise to 20$ on avg. without discounts was devastating. i cant imagine paying paying 70$ for a game.

[@gerudoking3180]

I’m the guy that’s simply gotten used to either buying or pirating older games, while waiting for new games to get a big discount. I don’t respect the companies; I respect the developers, and wish to experience their creations. When GTA 6 goes down to $40-50 bucks - LIKE I HAVE BEEN PAYING FOR GAMES MY ENTIRE LIFE - then I will give it a shot. I don’t even HAVE a PS5 because of how expensive they are. Gaming should be a healthy hobby, not an expensive habit. I would rather go to the movies for 10 bucks with my girlfriend, or play Mario Party with friends again, than waste money that I gotta spend on bills and Christmas gifts.

[@shauncameron8390]

Gaming was always expensive. It's just that it's now marketed towards an audience that's actually old enough to get a job and pay the price unlike the past.

[@AmandaabnamA]

Lucky movie tickets are $10 and not $30 by you

[@gerudoking3180]

@ I’m a student, luckily. It’ll be $25-30 in a year.

[@xandertreelimb]

-"Gaming development is too expensive now. We have to sell it for $70." -proceeds to spend $50 million to add a quadrillion-billion pixels in a characters toenails

[@gurpsman9244]

You know the worst part about this for me? In the UK, we used to have actual parity with the US costs when adjusted for our currency. We paid £40 when you guys paid $50, £50 when you guys paid $60, and it all roughly evened out. For some reason, and its really crazy to me that nobody talks about this, we've now been put at the exact same number despite the difference in our currencies. So we paid the equivalent of the price the US customer had, and then you guys got a $10 increase to $70. Okay then. Well, publishers decided they could get away with new games being the same number - £70 over here, resulting in us now paying around $92 equivalent at the time of writing, when less than 5 years ago we were paying around $60. Doesn't help that take-home pay here is lower than it's ever been. It's an absolute disgrace.

[@Sl1mch1ckens]

Dont completely disagree but back when we paid 40 and usa paid 50 the pound was a long stronger of a currency. Now its more 1 for 1 in terms of conversion. In 2009 for example £1 = $1.90, currently its £1 = $1.20. I still dont think we should be paying the same price but i qlso just dont think we can talk about this without talking about the fact the pound is no where near as strong of a currency as it used to be.

[@snailgirl6]

There's a classic saying:"If you build it, they will come." But i feel like AAA game corporations' CEOs think it goes,"If we make a new game, they (the gamers) will pay $70+ anyway."

[@makikuma91]

I'm so glad that I don't care about competition, love grinding and enjoy casual stuff. Free to play...just try to make me pay. I dare yay.

[@RoccaaaHD]

When games were 40$ in the US, they were also 60 PLN in Poland. Now its 70$ in the US and 280 PLN in Poland....

[@cosmicalsounds]

I'd say indie games can range from 15 USD to 30 USD, Triple A's can be 40 USD to 60 USD, and Double AA's can be somewhere in between the 15 to 60 USD. unless Double A doesn't actually exist. In my honest opinion, Rockstar Games is a perfect example of the way Triple A games should be. Master crafted, lots of time to tend to, constantly improving, and really trying to put the money where their mouth is. Ubislop or Ubisoft is a perfect example of what Triple A games shouldn't be. Produced in short time, sloppy craftsmanship, putting overkill amounts of money into the wrong things, improving barely anything or the wrong things, and not really giving 100% into the project, more like 50% or less. Don't be like Ubisoft.

[@deadwhitedragon9751]

It honestly sucks in Australia cause games are even more expensive in comparison, going from a consistent $80 on switch and $90 on steam to like $110. The new Indiana Jones game is $120 for crying out loud

[@mrdinosaurproductions9507]

I ain’t ever spending more than 40 bucks on a game

[@CreepyBEEF]

"the year is..." *checks notes*

[@Darklait]

6:00 unskipa... *gets ad*

[@ModernHero7]

Yep, to prove a point aswell. Lololol

[@AReyonder]

@@ModernHero7you too? Lmao

[@pond0479]

I personally don't mind game price increases, because I'd argue the lack of increase caused the death of genres like stealth games to happen. The thing is we need to erase season passes and special Editions to completely justify it.

[@Cut_Content]

*"$70 my ass"* _-Stryxo, 2024_

[@andromeda8418]

I can buy games for 60+ USD at launch, but it must be justified and I'm genuinely excited. Otherwise, I can happily wait for a year or two for that big sale. 40 bucks at launch is the "looks interesting, let's check this out" limit.

[@Luxius_8]

0:49 saying this while showing May from Pokémon is genius.

[@yungluke]

eBay has been the best place to get deals on physical games. Its truly a godsend

[@chasethompson3958]

As soon as one raises the prices, all of the devs are then willing. It was a hold out that took longer than it should've likely. Adjusted for inflation, $70 is still cheaper popular games over the decades leading to now. But when the games have microtransactions with a $70 price tag... that's crazy

[@asap3165]

absolute random ass Jet Lag: The Game reference but absolutely here for it

[@KindofBradAtThis]

Peak peak peak

[@hoagieland3716]

See, the difference now vs before (at least regarding AA and AAA games) was that in order for a game to be successful, it had to be good and complete. If you published a blatantly unfinished game, there was no way to patch it and the game would not sell well. Nowadays, publishers can release blatantly unfinished dumpster fires of games under the guise that “it’s a live service game and it’ll get better” which has happened so often to the point where modern gamers just accept it. Releasing a game for $70 that is missing features that need to be added back in over the course of several months is unacceptable and the game is not deserving of that price. This is probably why we’re seeing a rise in indie titles recently which often have more polish for a cheaper price

[@RedEyesBlackKnight]

The most im willing to pay on a game thats less than a year old is $40, after that even less. Never pay full price, always wait for a sale. $60 or more is not worth it for a piece of entertainment.

[@mvstermlnd]

always sail the high seas for every single or multiplayer game, see if you will love it, if yes then buy it, ive saved myself at least 1k after installing 60€ games and realizing how much i hate em after 30-60mins. Ive played cracked palworld also which was working on their official servers, i loved it, i bought it. These psychos have gone crazy, who the f would pay 60+€ for a singleplayer game that just launched let alone 2,4,6 years old, not me. What we should do as humans is remove all games from the cart and wishlist and fvck up their metrics, when they see noone is interested theyll drop prices like crazy.

[@Oneserioustiger]

@@mvstermlndwhere do you find these games if I may ask?

[@nordvestgaming1238]

@@mvstermlnd At least for single player games they really need to bring back demos as a mainstream thing. There have been multiple times where I found a game I wasn't entirely sold on immediately just based off reviews and marketing material, but it had a demo that I played and more often than not ended up going back and buying the full game.

[@KesterStudios]

$60 or more seems reasonable for a well designed game that gives you many hours of entertainment.

[@spugelo359]

@@mvstermlnd Because some games are actually worth it and some gamers are actually able to tell a good game without playing it, unlike some other people that just pick every game that looks mildly interesting. My time and money is worth more than that.

[@therealhussein]

4:08 okay but why is zelda totk 70$, it's still on the same hardware as botw, which was 60$ and shares alot of the assets botw used

[@mikehanrahan5559]

Because they can.

[@Daft0Cean968]

yea iwl I usually defend Nintendo not cutting prices because of the fact that the games usually come out very polished and tend to be great, but it was really obvious that they just wanted to make more money off of totk. Do I think it's worth 70? yes definitely, but as you said Botw was 60, no real reason to bump up the price imo

[@ThisIsNotMyRealSelf]

If your game is gonna cost $60, or heavens forbid, even MORE, then it better put me in a constant state of euphoria the entire time I'm playing. Otherwise, it's NOT worth the price tag.

[@Cane-Aubright]

a friend recently got got Animal Crossing Pocket Camp Complete. When I heard about it, something vaguely portable gaming shaped clicked in my head when he said he bought a mobile game for $10

[@dhkdeoen]

games used to cost $50~80 back in the 90s. even $90. considering the inflation, it's crazy.

[@turtleanton6539]

Inde3d😅😅😅😅

[@turtleanton6539]

But got cheapn on psx and then nore and more expensive😊

[@Chromeno]

didnt expect you to be in a cscoop video, you rose up at least four tiers in my coolness tier list :D

[@RetroCheats]

TOTK costing $70 due to it's huge playtime. The next Smash is worth $70 if it has at least 50 characters, and a single player mode. The next big Zelda, if it's at least the size of BOTW, $70 is fine. GTA 6 can cost $70 if there's plenty of content. No other game should cost $70

[@SomeCowguy]

What is a huge playtime? Will i hit 300 hours like on terraria, which costs 1/10th of that?

[@RetroCheats]

@SomeCowguy 80 hours, and game needs cutscenes, good story, good visuals. I'd happily pay $70 for these games, if I like the game. I personally don't even want to pay $10 for a game I might like, and rather save the money for a game I do like.

[@SomeCowguy]

@RetroCheats 80 sounds low for $70.

[@RetroCheats]

@SomeCowguy I meant 80 casual playthrough, not completist time. TOTK was too long in my oppinion... I want the next game to be just a bit longer than BOTW, and I'd gladly pay $70

[@OneRandomVictory]

@SomeCowguyAnd yet that game could never get away with charging $60+. At the end of the day, there are a lot of people that will not buy a full priced game unless it has high production value. And no high production value game is gonna be launched at sub $30.

[@Mecha-0178]

telling us what year this got uploaded is crazy

[@aKevbo]

Gaming has always been like this, and there's always been duds at $50, $60, or $70 dollars....

[@Sebastian-yl7nq]

The thing is, I am willing to fork out 70-80€ for a game and heck, sometimes even 30-40€ for a DLC if it's actually jam packed with content and I don't feel like the Developers behind it want to rip me off. Baldurs Gate 3, Phantom Liberty, Red Dead Redemption 2, Shadow of the Erdtree ... I would have even given them more than asked, for these probably once in a decade type of games and expensions The problem is, others would start to see the willingness of people to purchase products at these prices and than they'd make their next Shit of Duty or Fifa "We didn't change anything 2025" cost as much aswell. Also, I think for many a large part of the "development" budget is spent on marketing

[@TheDanishGuyReviews]

Games should be $20 at most for me. Anything higher and I'm waiting for it to go on sale. If you're buying games for $70, you're a rube who's being taken for a ride.

[@RetroHoodie25]

He's back (hopefully you return soon bro🙏)

[@orinblank2056]

Honestly I don't even buy a game that's $70 since I just assume it will be a dud. I have more faith in a $20 game, because it was probably made by a passionate indie studio

[@Dresfvae]

Starts video with DMC3, instant new sub

[@KindofBradAtThis]

i think all games should pay me to play them

[@yamete_kudastop4942]

awesome essay! I know for sure comentarary channel will react to this, which is not so ethical but I hope your channel will get bigger from it.

[@МихаилПономаренко-щ3ы]

50 2005 dollars is 80 in today's money

[@l.j.turner185]

If I said a restaurant meal costs a lot because it's cooked by a talented, passionate chef using fresh ingredients and will taste absolutely delicious... That same argument does not apply to a crappy McDonalds meal that costs the same amount. Yet with videogames, a game of the year winning title can easily cost the same, if not less, than a title nowhere near worth your time. Best thing I ever did with gaming was get into classic and retro titles. I can walk out of a pre-owned games shop with a pile of 10+ different videogame titles and it costs me less than half what a more recent game would.

[@Zeverinsen]

I wish people would stop preordering and actually wait for sales. I grew up with video games booming in the 2000's and 2010's, and I still wouldn't pay 70$ for _any_ game. I'm not even paying 50$ for big budget games, because I don't trust the companies making them. The only games I'd pay full price for, are indie games, because I know they're more likely to price it at what they actually think is worth, and they're not raising prices to overpay their greedy CEOs because they don't really have them. Games used to be better quality, but now they're just more expensive... It's a shame that the younger generation will never understand what they're missing.

[@THEONETRUEOVERLORD]

Games were not better quality in the past. You just have nostalgia goggles. I have played many old games and most of their gameplay did not age well at all. It always depends on the game some suck and some are amazing you just forgot all the bad ones.

[@OzmondHuman]

Babe wake up, stryxo posted a new video.

[@wickstorm_records]

Depends on the game. Call of Duty: 20€, GTA VI 200€

[@LordVermire]

I think a new game can be charged for however much the devs want. Since several playerbases proved they will pay any price for any game

[@PhantomRemmy]

I've been gaming for most of my life and I am 19 and can honestly say the only games I ever bought full price are Elden Ring, Baldurs Gate 3 and The Witcher 3 when it came out. I grew up in a household heavy on saving so when it came to games I always bought them as cheap as possible, it always hurts my soul when a game of mine goes on sale and I buy it then a week later its 10 dollars less 😂

[@RoachDoggggJR]

I still have never bought a game at $70 and have no plans to. If it's something I really want to play I don't mind waiting for a sale

[@X37V_Freecazoid]

I'm from Moldova which is not a rich country, while I have some livable money my rating is that AAA games deserve maximum of 30$, even 40$ for Skyrim was and still overpriced, that's why I still don't buy the Starfield because it costs 42.50$ in my country. If it costed less I'd buy it for let's say 18-23$. Then B class games like "War Hospital" or "Frostpunk 2" cost around 17-25$. And indie games are othen just 12-16$. Also as a great example I can point the "Forever Winter" for 14.50$ and "GTFO" for 14$ was perfect price for the experience I've got. For me it's too much for the scale of the game, the price does not represent a quality and how much fun you get out of it, just the scale of the game. Vampire Survivor costed me 3.50$ and is one of my most beloved and greatest games ever. Also I got DeusEx: Human Revolution for like 1.52$ and game surprised me, I honestly felt for the first time that I robbed the devs because I liked the game so much It worthed more money than I paid. So IMO 30$ is a musthave for 3A games. Examples like Baldur's Gate 3 and Cyberpunk2077 are perfect for their prices(I'm not here to rant about how much modern games are undercooked on the release). Also some indie devs noticed when they downed their price for their game in SA to 5$ their sales skyrocketed and they got very good money for them, just because they honestly put the price for their game it deserves people started ro buy it and not leaving it somewhere in wishlists. In the end my perfect price lists for games based on theirs scale is next. (BIG GAMES) AAAAA games cap 30$ (MID GAMES) 12 to 18$ (SMALL GAMES AKA INDIE) Free to 9$, best average for me is 6.5, it's honest price which majority can allow for not regret the spent money. Also DLC's are big deal, if they are so good as DLC 's for Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk their maximum price should be 15. But if it's some bullshit as always with Paradox games honestly it should be 7-10 at max! Not the sphere of influence for 22.50$ or Royal Court for 30$.

[@cxngo8124]

I got kingdom come for under 10 bucks. There are many great games for cheap. I have only bought 2 games at launch. MFS 2020 and Stalker 2. It is safe to say even at $60 the game has to blow me away to pay that much and anything near $70 has to be game of the year. Or else I will just buy games at a discount or get the game in a creative way

[@papercliprain3222]

I didn’t even flinch at the increase in Zelda’s cost because I knew what I was getting was worth it.

[@holloworacle3140]

I accidentally clicked on this video but hearing Devils Never Cry made me stay

[@voidmayonnaise]

All prices below are adjusted for inflation. The average PS1-era game cost $98, and PS2-era games were $79. Development cost for Crash Bandicoot was $3.62M. Development cost for Last of Us 2 was $220M.

[@princegroove]

Gaming in the 2000s just hit differently. 🔥

[@DiamondDepthYT]

I never EVER preorder games nowadays and ALWAYS wait for them to go on sale. I already have a good library. I can wait until whatever game I wanna play is $40 instead of $70

[@standbymode7599]

I’d argue that the price increase is PARTLY to incentivise players to go towards subscriptions because why pay a lump sum when you pay £10 a month and never cancel

[@matheu6848]

70 dollars are fine in some cases, like the video mentioned I’m fine buying full price and day 1 games like Metaphor, Resident evil or Like a dragon 8. But over 70 dollars I don’t think I’ll buy it day 1, until the game price drop.

[@docilelikewintercatfish]

AAA: 65$, 40$ as a sale, 30$ after 1 year AA: 40$, 30$ as sale, 20$ after 1 year

[@EinfachBlue]

I already know this is one of his best videos

[@reinoob]

Salaries are higher, technical requirements are bigger, inflation is growing, along with salaries as well.

[@turtleanton6539]

Depends on the game and how much content it contains.

[@Daft0Cean968]

I would argue it also depends on the game and how worthwhile the content actually is. Yea you'll get more time with a 100 hour game with alright content, but a lot of people would rather a game with amazing content that's only 20 hours long

[@desmondruhling]

this is exactly the video i wanted to watch

[@thehumblewolf]

Incredible editing, I like this 👍

[@YS_Y_YT]

“Don’t starve together “ the outlier of survival games