If Grammarly was, as they report, explicitly authorized at the time she did her paper, then it's case closed... she's innocent. She used the grammar checker that the university itself recommended. She should have her probation lifted, her record cleared, her paper re-graded, the professor/university officials who punished her reprimanded, and she be given a public apology.
@eden_aumakua10 ай бұрын
@KrusadeMinistries - Absolutely true.
@jaimerodriguez-n7t10 ай бұрын
Woah Woah what else you want, world peace? Don't be sneaky. Just bc it's called grammarly doesn't mean that it doesn't have an AI *STYLE* correction feature, that rewrites many sentences for the user. saying she just used a "grammar" checker is misleading
@richardsteiner899210 ай бұрын
Agreed, if true. Context is important.
@russellmania534910 ай бұрын
@@jaimerodriguez-n7t The school should remove Grammarly on their website then if its rewriting many sentences for the user.
@KrusadeMinistries10 ай бұрын
@@jaimerodriguez-n7t Even if that's what Grammarly does (I don't know; I've never used it) that's beside the point. If the university authorized and even promoted its use, then there's no excuse for penalizing her. The bottom line is, she only did what the university encouraged her to do. If it's not an acceptable resource to use, then it's their fault for saying it was.
@edwinmartinez859710 ай бұрын
I use grammerly for school. That is scary that happened because most universities provided students with that service.
@russellmania534910 ай бұрын
I wonder if the students could get together and file a class action lawsuit against the Universities.
@Jenn_8010 ай бұрын
The irony of this story... The teacher likely used an AI detection tool that is operated using AI 😂
@glee_again259410 ай бұрын
It’s exactly what’s happened. Everyone duped by AI.
@Jenn_8010 ай бұрын
@@glee_again2594 😆😆😆
@KaranBagga8710 ай бұрын
Your comment doesn't make sense. It like saying teacher likely used calculator to see whether gave right math answers.
@babyamyxo-o6c10 ай бұрын
Meanwhile Claudinne Gae the proven plagiarist & Harvd's Pres got defended for a month her color card.
@babyamyxo-o6c10 ай бұрын
Meanwhile Claudinne Gae a proven plagiarist & Harvd's Pres got defended for a month her color card.
@blueflameSM10 ай бұрын
"We're promoting grammarly, but we fucked up and had to delete the evidence...." The gall of the university to promote it, and still put her on academic probation is downright wrong. The professor could have took her, brought her inside and go over the paper. The fact that the universities justification for not appealing it is that she wasn't suspended? Wasn't kicked out of the program? Are you kidding me?
@Isai12410 ай бұрын
I am dealing with the same problem and i find that offensive from the administration not doing anything to fix it
@Literallyarealhuman10 ай бұрын
Don’t even get me started on administration
@zumasa99919 ай бұрын
I dont understand why its so hard for adults in power to say: "Our Mistake, We punished you incorrectly. We apologize and we will fix this." So many of the wrong people are in the wrong positions. When hiring people for leadership there should be a humbleness assessment
@Dr_Frog9 ай бұрын
Turnitin has a message to the professor that says the AI detection is not 100 percent accurate, and that you should investigate each case on its own merits, something to this effect. I have had students submit work and there was no doubt in my mind it was theirs. That being said Turnitin flagged it. Talked to the students and they used Grammarly to check their work and make suggestions. This is a bigger conversation that academia is having right now across the board. I do think for the interview to be non-biased I would have liked to have seen a representative from Turnitin be represented. I do feel bad for this young lady, it is simple take her work from her freshman year and run it through Grammarly and see if it gets flagged. Best wishes to you and your family this has to be tough.
@Dr_Frog9 ай бұрын
In defense of the resources I have taken complete dissertations and run them through Grammarly made the suggested changes then went back to Turnitin and nothing in 160 pages or so was flagged. Not sure now that Grammarly is using AI if this would impact the outcome.
@Indigolden7 ай бұрын
The Turnitin AI report only says that the report is potentially inaccurate if the percentage of AI-generated content is low. The fact that the students admit to using Grammarly to "make suggestions" shows they are using GrammarlyGo, the AI tool on Grammarly. That's not just a grammar check. That's cheating.
@oneheadofcabbage2 ай бұрын
@@Indigolden Restructuring your sentences to say the exact same thing but more concise is not cheating.
@patricktrentham8348Ай бұрын
@@oneheadofcabbage With all due respect. If you use a service to "restructure sentences" on an excessive amount of your paper, it is cheating. Compare it to sitting in class writing an essay. You give an idea to the kid with a genius IQ who won last year's essay writing contest sitting next to you and then ask them to help you put your idea into words on paper. That's cheating.
@jaimerodriguez-n7t10 ай бұрын
I tried grammarly once. The paid service has STYLE correction too (not just grammar) . I wonder if she used that and that's why is flagged as AI generated.
@juliahelland648810 ай бұрын
She said that she downloaded Grammarly for free from her university's website.
@jaimerodriguez-n7t10 ай бұрын
@@juliahelland6488 I downloaded it for free too, but the first days is a trial of the premium including a style correction. Did she use it? One can also opt-in afterwards for the paid version at any time. That said, To her favor, the university's website shouldn't have included the word " style" in the recommendations, as the app takes the liberty of Re-writing many sentences when you use the correct style feature. It seems like nobody else used it in the class. My take is that she should be out of probation with a warning, the guideline should be updated, and she could have been more straightforward in this interview by saying that she didn't just use grammar correction as used in WORD, but she used the style correction.
@jaimerodriguez-n7t10 ай бұрын
the trial version includes the style correction by default for some days and the user can opt in for the feature at anytime afterwards. That said, the university's guidelines shouldn't have included the word STYLE, as the app style correction rewrites as many of the user's sentences as it deems necessary. Nobody else used STYLE correction in her class, though. To be consistent the guideline should be updated. She should be out of probation with a warning. Also she should have been more straightforward and transparent in this interview (I USED THE STYLE CORRECTION FEATURE). Most of the comments assume that she just corrected punctuation.
@russellmania534910 ай бұрын
@@jaimerodriguez-n7t How about the school just remove Grammarly from their website and find another service that doesn't have the style correction feature.
@andisaxophone20 күн бұрын
That’s likely it. Changing the punctuation won’t likely flag. If it flagged, then she likely used it to change the sentence structure and even wording.
@necro36179 ай бұрын
The professor literally relies on AI to tell him whether how to grade. He's lazy.
@martys997210 ай бұрын
Before Grammarly flags a student's submittal as having had AI assistance, it should inform the student that that will be the case. Looks like Grammarly did the student a disservice, Jenny.
@tinah14210 ай бұрын
It’s not Grammerly doing the flagging. It’s a plagiarism detection software that schools use called Turn It In, which students don’t have access to. They’re 2different/separate products. If Turn It In is flagging things unfairly, the school should allow the students to appeal/contest the suspension and defend their work. Point is, the school is being unreasonable.
@martys997210 ай бұрын
@tinah142 Thank you for clarifying this for me.
@Dr_Frog9 ай бұрын
Also not sure if Turnitin has changed since I used to teach however the student side when they submit in most configurations does not show them the AI index.
@necro36179 ай бұрын
the professor relies on AI, which is turnitin, to tell the professor whether her essay is written by her. this is lazy grading. @@martys9972
@behramcooper369110 ай бұрын
How did they find out that she had used Gramarly? Dies it leave some code in the paper? I don't understand.
@russellmania534910 ай бұрын
They have programs that detect if the paper was written by a bot. The school should also remove Grammarly from their website if they don't want students to use it.
@MrrrAdryan10 ай бұрын
@@russellmania5349 But it only fixed the spelling and grammar so that doesn't make any sense. How would it get flagged for anything when she wrote the paper and simply turned it in with proper spelling and grammar, they would just read it and not even notice any errors in spelling or grammar as if she had corrected them herself prior to turning it in. I'm very confused. So it did have some kind of code embedded in it that showed she used grammarly to do something to it? She must've turned it in online and not a piece of paper then.
@ROARK-tp1ni3 ай бұрын
This is crazy, it's like saying anybody that uses spell check is cheating.
@lul20210 ай бұрын
It would be a good idea to properly investigate whether the professor has given zero marks on similarly spurious grounds in the past. It is more likely that a faculty member at a college is making false accusations against a student as part of an harassment action against that student than that Grammarly usage would sustainably show up as plagiarism
@ghistlyghost957910 ай бұрын
Grammarly checks also for plagiarism
@wrharris056 ай бұрын
I definitely give a zero for students using AI. It's cheating unless they want to report it as a reference.
@castorjones2455Ай бұрын
People have been using Grammarly for years. It kept those snotty English teachers to tell people that “School is not for you, you will never make it.”
@Tracey-hg9sj6 ай бұрын
There is a big difference between free Grammarly which checks for spelling and grammar and premium Grammarly which will alter a student's writing. Students tell me they have used Grammarly and the paper is being flagged as 100% AI. The "Grammarly" writing does not compare to their writing. Full stop.
@bluelava428210 ай бұрын
Math, science, history, everything’s on Siri
@mlerma5410 ай бұрын
Every AI detection tool has a false positive error rate. Given the volume of papers produced in a university, even a small detection error rate can lead to a significant number of papers being incorrectly flagged. Consequently, various American universities have stopped using AI writing detectors due to concerns over mistakenly accusing students. Additionally, the method of detecting and proving AI-generated writing raises questions. Plagiarism from a text can be proven by presenting the original text that was copied, but proving that a text was generated by AI in a meaningful way poses a challenge. Simply claiming that it contains certain "patterns" (which patterns, exactly?) that are also found in AI-generated text may not be good enough.
@strange_and_magnificent9 ай бұрын
This is why I don't use Grammarly for papers. Scary.
@Yengi-cw2ox3 ай бұрын
We are in an age where universities are advocating using a computer to check to see if another computer 'thinks' acomputer has been used, meanwhile thousands of AI generated essays go untouched. I advocated students do their own work and submit it, and let the university demonstrate foul play, as that is their job. We are on the cusp of qualifications not being worth the paper they are written on
@sweetiecandykim4 ай бұрын
That GoFundMe is absolutely wild. She can't even capitalise 'i'm', calls herself a college 'kid' and just sounds really juvenile. I totally believe she used it for more than a spell check.
@lesabri10 ай бұрын
There is a signature the students have to say the student will not use AI
@russellmania534910 ай бұрын
She used a service that was provided by the school.
@wrharris056 ай бұрын
This makes me mad. They need to cite it as a source or its plagiarism and cheating. Period. You can't submit professionally written work as yours and you didn't write it.
@kabbystevens516710 ай бұрын
It is on the schools website.
@kennychan73558 ай бұрын
How can any one would say grammarly is using to make student copied from the work. If the words are not spoken due to the grammar mistake, that doesn't mean the work would be caught plagarisim from AI. The university professor should not only rely on AI as being 100% accurate, they should just dig through to investigate what is used for. AI detection is creating a false impression and ruining student privacy.
@wrharris056 ай бұрын
It's one thing to use it to help your grammar or spelling, but allowing it to rewrite your work and sentences is cheating. You didn't write it. We can tell professional or AI generated writing. Undergraduate students don't write better than professors or the professional writing seen in publications. It is cheating.
@aletheaskinner8888Ай бұрын
That is not always true. As an undergrad, I wrote papers that had my professors asking where I went to high school. (In Freshman Comp II, I wrote a 23-page paper titled, "The Manipulated Metamorphosis of the American Woman". My professor was used to my writing by then, having watched me write in class, but she was shocked by that paper and commented "I feel sorry for the people who work with you on your doctorate; it took me two sessions to read it!") My younger sister was given a "B" on a paper she wrote because the instructor said he couldn't prove she'd copied it, but she couldn't have written it. When she took her notes, etc., he gave her the "A" she earned. We were blessed to have attended schools in Upstate NY where teachers believed in teaching the foundations, schools for military dependents overseas, and in Oregon. I learned proper sentence structure and professional-type writing by reading LIFE, US News & World Report, National Geographic, and encyclopedias. As a writer today, I self-edit and then pay someone else to edit again. If I decide to use suggested changes, I have not cheated. The editor did not WRITE my book, article, etc. Most writers write, take a break for a few hours or days, then read and revise. Grammarly does that second step for those who do their own research, writing, and editing. It is a time saver! The best thing is that you do not have to accept the suggestions. As I type this, my computer constantly makes word suggestions and highlights typos. It is the reality of today's writing world. Using ChatGPT or other AI tools is totally different, and I will not use any of them.
@premiergod10 ай бұрын
Why would you use ai for college?
@ramboram0310 ай бұрын
its extremely helpful i can attest to it
@scotthearts963410 ай бұрын
Uhmmnn.. times are changing? 🤨😅 the digital age is growing
@premiergod10 ай бұрын
@@scotthearts9634 it’s college, not a quick corporate email response. 🫶
@imnirvana998210 ай бұрын
Why would you use computers for college? Hard to believe, but this was debated when I started college in the mid/late 80s and professors wanted students to still use typewriters. Can’t fight tech and progress, especially in a college environment. It’s scary how ill-prepared kids are to enter the real world after spending a small fortune paying for college.
@originaldcjensenАй бұрын
@@imnirvana9982oh, this is on my mind from that time period. Must use no dot matrix printers, must make index cards, Must handwrite your outline legibly. If you do write on a computer, retype it on the 1968 IBM Selectric we put one in each dorm building. Must retype if any errors, no correction fluid….
@castorjones2455Ай бұрын
It's not like you're going to make six figures with a college degree anyway. Just accumulate a debt you may not be able to pay back. Which is the reality for most students
@michaeldeltz82297 ай бұрын
I’m curious to see what the AI score was on her work. I am a teacher and to test my AI checking tool, I put all of my recent papers I did for graduate school using Grammarly for its intended purpose. My score was never lower than 87% human. When my students turn in an essay that rings up as 100% AI, I investigate. I enter a handwritten paper they did into the AI checker, and it usually comes up as 90% human or higher. There should not be that much of a difference between their two works.
@imnirvana998210 ай бұрын
I bet that if we ran the professor's papers and dissertations through the same AI-detecting software that he used (which probably also uses AI), it would flag his research papers.
@queenfrog12249 ай бұрын
Yup. Mine would be flagged. I use Grammarly and reference management systems. That's the thing that bothers me about educators, the same rules don't apply to them. I think it breaches trust and I find if trust and safety are not established with students, they struggle to learn and I struggle to teach.
@Tracey-hg9sj6 ай бұрын
AI has not been around that long. Most professors didn't have access to it. I know professors who typed their dissertations.
@Youtubingyesser10 ай бұрын
I thought grammarly helps with grammar.. so what’s the problem? It’s equivalent to getting assistance from a writing workshop
@premiergod10 ай бұрын
Whats the go fund me for, lawyer fees to sue the school so they let her back in?
@russellmania534910 ай бұрын
Maybe to sue and force the school to remove Grammarly from their website, so other students don't make the same mistake and fail because of it.
@CrabtreeJK8 ай бұрын
Grammarly has a generative AI feature…you don’t have to use this feature
@shamyataylor3386 ай бұрын
How can you change the feature
@CrabtreeJK6 ай бұрын
@@shamyataylor338 you don’t have to use the Generative AI feature it is optional. In order to use the feature you have to physically click a box to engage the tool. Grammarly, unlike Chat GPT, seems to generate the same response for the same question every time. This is probably why this student got caught cheating. She wasn’t just using the spell/grammar correction feature but used Grammarly’s new AI generative response tool.
@Chevy0110 ай бұрын
I’m hearing more and more about AI even celebrities are complaining.
@Democracy98210 ай бұрын
Don't use ai
@tishw457610 ай бұрын
Then you better disconnect from the world.
@Literallyarealhuman10 ай бұрын
Don’t use your computer lol
@PraveenSrJ0110 ай бұрын
I agree ☝️
@deshunnickrupertvevo279310 ай бұрын
A paper can get flagged for many reasons not just because of AI. AI has been around since the 80s it seems like every 10 to 15 years it has gotten more advanced and it's crazy, Especially when schools say to use Grammarly and then the computer software they put it through is using AI bots I remember I was writing a paper in college and everything was 100% original before I turn it in, I put it through a plagiarism checker and it showed me 50% or more was plagiarize which it wasn't true. I understand Grammarly can be used to re-write papers it wasn't designed with that in mind it's just over the years people have used the software to their advantage. Unfortunately, a lot of these comments are correct AI is here to stay what I think Grammarly should do is to remove the feature that allows you to re-write papers and I think that should help look at Microsoft Office, Apple pages, and all the other software that is out there sure, they all have their share of complaints but students are not getting in trouble over them. You might be thinking why should we listen to this guy he doesn't know what he's talking about but I am an IT technician I'm going to school for cyber security and I'm working on my certifications and A+, Cloud+, Linux+, Network+, Server+, and Security+ I also have been in this tech industry for 12 years
@LNVACVAC10 ай бұрын
It's so funny anglophones here are preaching to her and don't even realise this skill they are demanding is not only extremelly rare (like 0.01% of Academic Post-Graduates) but its own ocupation.
@robertperez27310 ай бұрын
Absolutely clownish take to think only 0.01% of college grads can proofread..
@LNVACVAC10 ай бұрын
@@robertperez273 On a professional level, yes. 0.01%. Upper CEFR C2. Less than 25% of PhDs reach Upper C1 ou Lower C2.
@Indigolden7 ай бұрын
She's lying. Regular Grammarly only fixes grammar and punctuation, and it does not get flagged as AI. Grammarly Go, their AI plug-in, rewrites the content and suggests new content by suggesting content based on random Internet content, not the student's research. That is banned by most schools. As far as I'm concerned, Grammarly ruined their product by offering the Go plug-in.
@michaeljames2.0547 ай бұрын
Wrong. As an AI model Engineer, you must know that AI checkers now advise that there may be false flags. This is to avoid any legalities, as it is impossible to fully recognize whether or not AI created something. In this case, Grammarly has updated its search model to enhance the tone of the papers in the free model, causing more and more of these issues as professors rely on AI checkers to validate documents. Now the university uses this service and is guilty of providing a faulty product to the students. This is not an isolated case, nor am I saying she might not have used AI for writing; however, with something not 100%, you cannot use it as a judgment tool. An example is a lie detector test that does not carry any weight in court.
@shaunwomersley31306 ай бұрын
Im a mature student in the UK and my last 2 papers within the last 3 months have been flagged as Ai content. Bieng dyslexic I was advised to use Grammarley to check spelling, referencing, and passive,active voice. I do not use Ai like GPT etc for any written content, only to ask questions and generate additional ideas. Because the writing style of both assignments and the grade recieved compared to all my other work, no action was taken. But I will try to get clarification in Sept as it's my final year. I've never cheated at anything but this report suggests I am.
@missysassy23510 ай бұрын
Microsoft word also checks your grammar. ... ?
@TargetedTales10 ай бұрын
Grammerly is better then Grammarly.
@BeachBoyee10 ай бұрын
Did the college provide locked down "writing rooms" where students are patted down on entry to make sure they don't use any artificial writing performance enhancers? How else could they effectively police it?
@Travis-L6E10 ай бұрын
I agree she wasn't cheating, however, shouldn't a college student know how to use correct grammar and punctuation without the help of A.I.?
@STaRSPRiNKLe_oX10 ай бұрын
Unless you're an editor, no. Can you tell me the difference between hyphens, en dashes, and em dashes, when you would use a semi colon, what an oxford comma is, what words are closed up, hyphenated, or open spaced? These are not skills most people learn in college unless you're a journalism or English major. You'd also be surprised to know how bad a lot of authors are with spelling and punctuation, and it's literally the reason a manuscript will have three different freelance editors assigned to their manuscript in a publishing house.
@MethSloth10 ай бұрын
@@STaRSPRiNKLe_oX those are all learned in English classes by middle school in the U.S.
It wasn't flagged bc perfect punctuation. She probably let it rewrite the sentence as style correction. She's being deliberately vague about it
@russellmania534910 ай бұрын
@@jaimerodriguez-n7t Why does the school even have Grammarly on their website in the first place if it has a style correction feature.
@Bellavictoria00036 ай бұрын
I don't get it when you do your research you use the internet. Is that not itself artificial intelligence as well in some form?
@jennytaylor39624 ай бұрын
Something similar happened to me but it was a small section. I definitely won't be recommending or using grammarly again.
@intoreality11899 ай бұрын
Looks like the AI detection tool has some bugs in it.
@queenfrog12249 ай бұрын
This is ridiculous. I am a college professor and the trauma and inequities we perpetuate in universities are unacceptable. Let's teach students how to use AI responsibly. I've embraced AI in the classroom. My students love it and I see much deeper introspective work than before. I am not opposed to teaching students to improve thei grammar and writing skills, but if AI can help with that, then great. I'm more interested in the content and their understanding and use of the content (I'm not an English teacher). BTW, I'm a published author, and I use all kinds of technology and AI for my work. My colleagues who refuse to use technology are struggling.
@MethSloth10 ай бұрын
I'm so glad I don't subscribe to the AI bullshit
@dcthebeautyqueen46916 ай бұрын
I use it as well when my grammar was shit, I had no problem and I got all A’s and B’s
@RayHowle-jb1bi10 ай бұрын
What's AI you don't know if it's real or not
@babyamyxo-o6c10 ай бұрын
Jenny should sue her school for defamation and lost time.
@Democracy98210 ай бұрын
Ai advertising papers
@DustDevilRage4 ай бұрын
Get rid of “papers” altogether. There are other ways of conveying to your professor that you have done the research and that you know your 💩. NGC, Dahlonega 1st Battalion, Charlie XO Class of 2000 MOC 1962 Mountain All the Way
@baat-pakki9 ай бұрын
There is a radar and then there's a radar detector, and then there is a detector to detect that radar detector, and then there is a detector to detect that detector to detect that radar detector. Oh boy, this ain't going nowhere. I wonder if the browser was 'managed' by the college. But regardless if grammarly was in the approved list, she did not do anything wrong, IMO.
@ricetale44897 ай бұрын
It's happening to me right now
@overlycreative18 ай бұрын
This is simple to fix. The University should present the student with the original texts from which the "plagiarized" works were derived and ask that the evidence be refuted. The reporters should do better investigative work.
@eddiearmijo663510 ай бұрын
Chicken Or the Egg ?
@soonersciencenerd38310 ай бұрын
they should add a rule: no grammarly, or other computer influence. (use a dictionary or encyclopedia). do some work for once. computers will be gone one day-- there was a time where we just had pen, pencil, paper, typewriter, white-out, erasers, and dictionaries. (and stop with the "but, its technology"-- technology is becoming a disability to youngsters..)
@queenfrog12249 ай бұрын
I don't think that's true. Computers and AI are only going to proliferate. I wonder if people in the early 1900s said that about cars, most of us aren't using a horse and buggy to get around. I agree that younger kids should not be using screens at school but that's only because we still don't know what long hours of screen exposure does to young brains. But for college kids, we'd be disadvantaging them in tomorrow's job market if we didn't teach them how to use computers and AI. I have colleagues who don't want to engage with technology that can make their work and our collaborative process so much easier. That's frustrating to me.
@soonersciencenerd3839 ай бұрын
how about the amish? long ago, people walked all the time, to travel. cars are a tool, a luxury- we are not born with it. same idea, computers weren't around until the 1990's. (cell phones), you gen Z-ers have all you want, at your fingertips, at a moments notice. one thing, you better be grateful for what you do have. @@queenfrog1224
@grafando10 ай бұрын
There's no way to know if something was written by AI. It's words. A human could put together the same set of words as an AI tool can, I don't understand how there's any possible way to tell the difference.
@russellmania534910 ай бұрын
Unless the A.I. can mimic your writing style then yes it should be easy to tell. If you're writing at a 6th grade level and all the sudden you turn in a paper that is written like a novel by a professional writer then it would be easy to tell. With that being said the school should delist Grammarly from their website if they don't want students to use it.
@andisaxophone20 күн бұрын
The AI doesn’t use language in any way like a human. It uses probability of the next word to complete a grammatical sentence, and this creates word patterns in such a unique way that no human would follow that pattern. It’s something like, every third word has a probability of being X (except it’s using multiple patterns like that simultaneously). Following all these patterns over the whole paper is so unlikely that it can be detected with extreme accuracy. My suspicion is that these mechanisms are built in by design so that AI don’t accidentally get trained on AI-generated data which would compound errors over time.
@bboucharde10 ай бұрын
What some students don't understand is that WRITING IS COGNITION. If you cannot write well, then you have impaired cognition. *Turn off your auto-correct, and stay away from AI.* Take pride in YOUR writing----even when you have to struggle with it. That's how you learn.
@LNVACVAC10 ай бұрын
Cognitive Functions is not the same as Cognition. And language deficits appart from vocabulary are separate from cognitive deficits both in diagnostic and clinical tools. 15% of the world has a language deficit. The level of skill you are demanding from her is achieved by less than 0.01% of the Post-Graduate population.
@LNVACVAC10 ай бұрын
The level of skill you are demanding is beyond advanced, is above CEFR C2. What you are demanding is a skill most people who have MAs in Writting and Linguistics don't have. Most anglophone universities demand a B2 Level for natural and exact sciences, and C1 for medicine or humanities. An A* Level in English is C1, and A Level is Upper B2.
@nfbconnect10 ай бұрын
Are you kidding? If so then we need to band being able to use Spelling and Grammar check on emails and all computer programs. Anyone who uses spell check should be sited for plagiarism in school and in the workforce. Let's go back to dictionaries in book format to use to make sure our computer document spelling and punctuation is correct like they did 70 years ago.
@bboucharde10 ай бұрын
@@LNVACVAC LNV, Thanks for your perspective. The process of writing is intimately tied to cognitive-logical development in a post-modern urban-industrial society. However, If you are going to migrate to the Amazon rain forest and become a subsistence hunter, then other cognitive-perceptual abilities will be more important.
@LNVACVAC10 ай бұрын
@@bboucharde Bro, you don't have a single clue about what you are talking about. You are demanding an OECD Literacy Level 5 for a course which demands a level 3 for Bsc and 4 for PhD candidates.
@Novastar.SaberCombat10 ай бұрын
I'm an award-winning author, but I'd *never* use Grammarly nor any other special software to alter, tweak, "correct", or otherwise change my work. Granted, NO ONE cares, lol! 😂🤣😂 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨
@diegoaespitia10 ай бұрын
i mean... why not just read ur essay? i doubt this girls paper was more than a few pages
@chartmann4310 ай бұрын
Jesus Christ! It’s called spellcheck and grammar checks!
@1209Misty10 ай бұрын
Law school and you need a grammar checker I mean, if you can’t even do your own grammar, checking on your own essays, how good are you gonna be to detail within your profession? Lazy lazy and not only that she’s not even passionate now can you imagine when she’s in the profession. This is the problem with the new generation they want to take the easy way out for everything, and in the long run they never had a strong foundation to begin with. Your foundation is everything and if you can’t even do your own grammar checking in law school, I think there’s a problem with the system. This is lazy and this is already showing red flags to the profession. I would not hire this young lady. This is why there is no quality anymore and everything is just about quantity.
@gochilyne9 ай бұрын
she’s not in law school. this was for a criminal justice class that wasn’t even a class that she needed for her major.
@BlossomSky-s6r10 ай бұрын
I hate the news reporter she is toxic
@mariemay44410 ай бұрын
This is so ridiculously unfair and absolutely not ok.
@DevilDogDen17753 ай бұрын
No student should be permitted to use AI in order to write a class paper !!!!
@Isai12410 ай бұрын
Professor should'nt use to evaluate students period
@nottoday62610 ай бұрын
She’s lying ..
@ericreid811110 ай бұрын
Grammarly just rewords what you write. Grammarly is not cheating.
@STaRSPRiNKLe_oX10 ай бұрын
It doesn't even reword anything, it just gives you suggestions if you want to change a word. Also if she was using the free version, the amount of assistance she would even have is limited. It doesn't give you many suggestions to revise , if at all, it only underlines potential problems and gives fixes for easy things like commas, etc. This is the most bogus case of AI cheating I've ever heard in my entire life, especially since that tool is listed on the university website. This teacher is a first class, power hungry moron.
@Tracey-hg9sj6 ай бұрын
If it is a writing class, you are expected to write essays yourself.
@ericreid81116 ай бұрын
@@Tracey-hg9sj Have you used grammarly before?
@danielgrove77827 ай бұрын
Wework
@mmeers893 ай бұрын
It's still cheating if you don't proofread and fix your errors yourself.
@oneheadofcabbage2 ай бұрын
ah yes, Microsoft Word's built-in spell-check feature is cheating.
@lisalastnamesmith10 ай бұрын
So spell checking shouldn't exist?
@jaimerodriguez-n7t10 ай бұрын
It has a style correction feature. I think she used that
@stanbalo10 ай бұрын
Regarding her paper, i really cannot say much but her makeup aka her blush if it really is blush and not just natural rosy cheeks, it is an epic fail. Less is more and blend blend blend
@Literallyarealhuman10 ай бұрын
If you don’t check your grammar with grammerly you really aren’t doing your job
@russellmania534910 ай бұрын
The school provided Grammarly on their website.
@LordDarkfart10 ай бұрын
That is cheating. Learn proper punctuation and spelling correctly. Duh. Lazy
@nfbconnect10 ай бұрын
So spell check on your computer is cheating? Bc that's been around 40 years. Guess we need to fail the entire world for the last 40 years.
@dkg_gdk10 ай бұрын
Youre the one to talk...
@LordDarkfart10 ай бұрын
@@dkg_gdk Also, it’s “you’re“. Duhhhhhhhh.
@kennychan73558 ай бұрын
I don't agree your commment.
@torreyls240810 ай бұрын
That is cheating. Because you'd have been marked down for not knowing proper grammar and punctuation
@wacotexasmayor457310 ай бұрын
Facts u should know your grammar
@chrisjackson121510 ай бұрын
It is, but people seem to think it's okay these days. The program itself is crap (I tried it once and it was horrible, it didn't even use proper English). IMO it's in the realm of plagiarism; you're supposed to write in YOUR OWN WORDS; not someone else's or an AI's.
@gatorrade168010 ай бұрын
Even Microsoft Word can check that for you. Would you call using that cheating, too?
@abby402710 ай бұрын
@@gatorrade1680we were literally just thinking the same thing
@torreyls240810 ай бұрын
@@gatorrade1680 yes
@robertperez27310 ай бұрын
Her only legitimate point is that the school's website specifically encourages students to use it, assuming the context she is claiming is true. Regardless, it's obviously wrong to to have another entity editing your paper without any additional input of work on your part. School's have tudors and people who will help you recognize where your grammar and punctuation are lacking, but they don't rewrite the wrong parts and fix them for you. That should be the standard here..
@LNVACVAC10 ай бұрын
Many people suffer with language deficits. It's insane to demand each student to run for a tuttor to correct each chore.
@robertperez27310 ай бұрын
@@LNVACVAC welcome to college.. where apparently it's insanity to require competence. What a ridiculously childish take.
@LNVACVAC10 ай бұрын
@@robertperez273 Language deficits are not a matter of competence. But are neurological impairments. 15% of the global population suffer some form of language deficit.
@LNVACVAC10 ай бұрын
Most people commit mistakes. Native english speakers even have lower grades than foreigners on international certification tests. The average native english speaker whith higher education achieves levels CEFR B2, while foreigners achieve C1 on writting. You are insane if you think natural and exact science minded individuals will have even the training necessary to do a proofreader's job. Almost no academic article is published without being submited to a paid proofreader.
@robertperez27310 ай бұрын
@LNVACVAC There's an extremely long history of people overcoming these "neurological impairments" to complete more than satisfactory work. If you cannot, then you're not cut out for higher education. Just because you have low expectations doesn't mean they're incapable of learning proper skills for advanced communication.
@Democracy98210 ай бұрын
Don't use ai
@xlkarma844610 ай бұрын
Don’t use your mom
@russellmania534910 ай бұрын
The school should delist Grammarly from their website.