Remodeling a Kitchen A-Z - Part 4: Running Gas and Electrical Conduit for a Kitchen Island

[@gregorybondi5220]

Love to watch a father and son are the brains and muscle. No arguments; nothing but lessons and work. Love that!

[@rnupnorthbrrrsm6123]

Nice team work ! It’s great to see a kid working with his dad and being excited about it !!! Well done 👍

[@jamesdeclan7538]

Here an explanation for the blade (at least what I think of as a laborer). When you are doing multiple cuts their is more of the blade's circumference contacting the concrete, shedding more diamonds per rotation due to the friction, not to mention doing multiple passes will just multiply the wear. Doing one pass will contact less of the blade's circumference and cause less friction, therefore less wear. I feel like doing multiple passes in wood is only for the power of the motor and blade height, where in concrete that isn't a concern in most cases.

[@StudPack]

Cool thx James 👍

[@greeneyednerd]

Love the dad. I feel like I have a "construction" dad teaching and learning with me.

[@StudPack]

Thanks!!

[@KristiSage]

Great video on running conduit under a concrete slab for an island. Which is exactly what we needed a video on. You boys rock! Thx so much! 🎸🥁

[@truewoodwerks]

I love how you guys clean as you go, agree with you 100%…..

[@ncooty]

@3:47: Great point, and something very few people would know to consider. I didn't think of it until you said it. I can imagine sawing through one of those cables and then thinking, "Oh no... no no no."

[@Iamtinupena]

Thanks for sharing! This is the most detailed video I have seen so far. I am undertaking my kitchen remodel.

[@bradwhite6491]

Love the detailed explanation you put in your video’s! Nice work guys!

[@StudPack]

Thanks so much!

[@hectorsantiago422]

Thank you for taking the time to teach us, DIYers.

[@davidboddy2178]

Really enjoying the education you're providing us and Jordan's enthusiasm shows you're a great teacher.

[@mrcryptozoic817]

I used the gutter technique even when I'm loading/unloading to a trailer. And regarding the blade, I have found when using an abrasive blade on a grinder that once you're past about 3/4" the blade rapidly wears out but if I cut 1/4" at a time, it lasts much, much longer. So I would have assumed the concrete blade would be the same! Thanks for re-emphasizing the warning.

[@jessicahites871]

Love your work ethics!! I've never seen any other contractor with a mop!!

[@steveloux4709]

Nice job guys. I would just add that placing a 2" PVC cap on each end of the conduits is cheap insurance before you place concrete. Sometimes we have used duct tape prior to concrete placement and have always regretted it.

[@zaneh6224]

Great channel, Dad should get Jordan on the tools a bit more and give his old man a rest 😁🦘👍

[@hgkal808]

I'm new to the channel. I've watched the kitchen remodeling from episode 1. If there ever was a Mens channel on TV it better have a spot for the twos of you. Incredible knowledge in the mind of the Dad. No doubt Son will be as great or greater. Im reminded of all the projects I did with my Dad at our home and grandmas, aunts and uncles homes. Great job you two! KUTGW!

[@StudPack]

Thx again for your comments. Don't know if I could ever do a TV show though. Kevin O'Connor (This Old House host) has my dream job.

[@dylanpeterson3490]

make room for Essential Craftsman as well.

[@shakeeshakee9457]

Awesome videos..great to see father and son work together so well..thanks for the informative videos

[@StudPack]

Thanks 👍

[@nenabarberena6063]

Thank you, I was wondering how to make a safety gas line to my kitchen island until I saw your video, thank you so much! Greetings from Mexico :)

[@tsjuno]

I was a laborer for a concrete company for a summer and worked 7 days a week all summer. I’ve never seen anyone do multiple passes with a concrete saw. It’s always full depth.

[@StudPack]

Thx Troy 👍💪

[@sm87112]

Nicely done and well videoed.

[@Charles-uc3hb]

Great videos! Love how much detail you all go into. Lots of little things that mean a lot that I never see in over videos. Keep it up. Watching all your vids!

[@StudPack]

Thanks Charles👍

[@nidiacheeld2]

This is a great video I love it! we are converting a pole barn into leaving, the concrete was already poor, so we have the plumbers runs the plumbing however, they would not do the conduit for gas or electric. So needless to said here we are trying to figure out how to run the electric and gas tot he island. They did not use water when they cut the concrete. So we have layers and layers of dust all over the furniture even tho we cover the whole area with plastic. Pretty disappointed but I see how you guys cut and install the conduit I think I can do it. we have a very tight budget. Thanks again.

[@gregwright9869]

The rental yard must be using cheapest blades they can get. Also I've never heard anyone say to cut a full 4" or so in one cut with a 12" or 14" blade, 4" usually being max depth of a 12" walk anyway. Saw needs rpm and blade needs cooling. Not to mention lugging the motor. I've had blades on my walk saw for well over a year with regular use (depending on how much rebar they hit).

[@StudPack]

Thanks Greg, lesson learned for sure. Back to buying my own blade$$$

[@torrionsmith4229]

Hey quick question .. does cutting a small section as this reduce the integrity of your foundation over time ?

[@o2begrn]

Looks Great just missing some dowels

[@aaronhunt1616]

What about the roof load transfer that you said you were going to explain at the end of part 3

[@skillz8885]

What kind of cement did you guys use or recommend for a project like this?

[@TheMrcookieninja]

I’m gonna have to hire someone for this. I’m doing the same thing to my kitchen but, I don’t have an structure engineer 😆

[@beddozo]

I just moved to an area that is probably 98% slab foundation . I have a similar project that I had to rent a concrete cutter (hand held) that puts out almost zero water and zero dust , (Worked Great !) .... I tried to use my small BOSCH XMAX on 21 yr old concrete and after 30 mins called it quits . Rented a 35 lbs Hilti jack hammer and in 30 mins I'm done .... With the down time on the job , I'm going to spend some money .. P.S. Good Job Dad !

[@JusAscan]

Full depth cuts on metal also have less wear on blades.

[@pnutmal]

You can use a thick 100' chalk line to snap out your cut lines then spray it with clear lacquer . I use the cans that spray upside down . Just like marking paint cans . Fast , easy and waterproof

[@StudPack]

Yep we do that too. All I had was some paint

[@nidiacheeld2]

what type of cement you use to replace the concrete?

[@jamesaustin7147]

I usually cut out a piece of concrete before I start cutting to get a measurement of how deep I need to cut. After I know how deep I need to cut. I start cutting to that cutting depth. I only cut once.

[@MartyHuie]

out of curiosity you said you spoke to the electrical and plumbing inspector trying to figure out what issues they would have and how this would not meet code in the first place? Would like to do the same yet I do follow rules just trying to figure out what rules I might be bending :)

[@MrLe-nd3ij]

question i want to do the same thing for my house but i just need electrical. I want to use a 12/2 romex wire. what size conduit should i use.

[@robertgarcia3693]

I would have loved to have seen how the gas line made it through the conduit and what type of connections were made. Thanks for the video.

[@StudPack]

Thanks Robert! Our plumbers used Gastite FlashShield flexible gas piping - link below. I'm sure you can search KZbin and find some install videos👍 www.gastite.com/us/products/flashshield.html

[@StudPack]

Check out part 5 at 09:10 for a shot of the piping

[@robertgarcia3693]

@@StudPack thank you

[@Ruso_Moose]

How many 12/2 romex can you put in each conduit? Is it safe to put more than one ? 🤔

[@Davido7o7]

How do you connect a junction box to 3" pipe?

[@joshcowart2446]

Yeah cutting a post tension cable can put you from making a profit to doing the job for free or paying them to do the job really fast. When I’ve used the walk behind I’ve always cut full depth. When I’m using a quickie saw sometimes I’ll do a quick pass to establish my line because it’s easier to get off because you can’t see your line right at the blade. Though only problem with full depth is I’ll have the tendency to go to fast and the saw wants to pull itself out of the cut.

[@StudPack]

Thx Josh 👍👊

[@Al-lu8fd]

Nice job guys. Would love to see you guys do a larger electrical job, unless I missed it somewhere in your archives. Keep up the good work. Regards, Alex in RI, Electrical J-Man

[@StudPack]

Thx Alex 👊💪

[@omantoodle2437]

You guys have a great relationship

[@StudPack]

Thx Oman 👍

[@raxorlp9932]

this charging method with how much u used from the blade is very common here in my region

[@jimsutton8874]

Watching various YT authors to see everyone technique on cutting slab, another YT'er mentioned the CODE is his area required the conduit to be buried below the concrete layer. So, in his fills, he had a bit of dirt/fill then placed the concrete repair as you have. (TX) I didn't see you do that in your concrete repairs after setting the conduit.

[@MillionDollarFlipper]

Yes, the proper way to pass code in Los Angeles is to bury the conduit so the top of it is at least 2 inches below the concrete slab.

[@nicholassinclair4589]

Definitely multiple passes. No question.

[@gmeister03]

I run walk behinds. I run full depth in all cutting.

[@mrobvious5892]

No nail plates in front of conduit???

[@Mrcool12684]

Hey awesome channel guys keep up the good work!

[@BRICEN18]

I bought a chipping hammer from harbor freight. It’s no hilti but good enough. Cheaper than renting in the long run!

[@pnutmal]

I got one to and it works preety good . Only bad thing is they put the bit holder on wrong but thats an easy fix

[@jl8978]

How much do you charge to do something like this?

[@kevinmckenna7959]

I am a GC that builds Sky Scrapers throughout the U.S. I know that my men will cut a single pass through any concrete that is 8" or less....however, if deeper than 8", we will cut multiple passes to assure accuracy. Remember that you have to allot for rebar as well!!!!

[@StudPack]

Cool thx Kevin 👊. Skyscrapers dang! That’s the ultimate in construction 👊🇺🇸

[@kevinmckenna7959]

You should also note to the viewers that CPVC used for plumbing is NOT the same (or to be used)as electric conduit. Thank you!!!!

[@darrinscoilsclouds1498]

I’ve got a question. I see you in these videos doing plumbing and electrical in customers houses. What license are you covered under?

[@tulianh]

What do you care

[@SqueakyHinge]

@@tulianh I'm interested as I'm also a contractor and in this state you pretty much have to be licensed separately for each skill. All states are different. Even though I'm also licensed as an electrical contractor & an HVAC Contractor I'm not allowed to make feed runs nor are we allowed to make plumbing runs. In this state you need to be a full fledged 01 electrician and a full fledged plumbing contractor plus a General License Construction contractor to do what they are doing. And if we have others on the job working with us under the same company they must also carry the licenses just to be on the job.

[@darrinscoilsclouds1498]

@@tulianh curiosity...... What do you care?

[@mikeclarke3005]

@@SqueakyHinge Well, no electrical no plumbing in this episode. What they installed are raceways for the actual electrical and plumbing to go into. He did mention his plumber installing the gas line, assume same for the electrical. Then in many places, like my state, if doing work on your own residential property, can do all yourself no license, of course not the case here. I do believe there are several things people need to be specifically trained for, and licensed, but many places that is all under union control and limiting competition like in my area, crooks, So many handyman people doing it anyway as the gubberment has gone way to far for its licensing requirements and thus the results.

[@adriaan7627]

Question: Why use plastic to prevent moisture from beneath? 14:00 Or are you using the plastic to prevent the concrete to slip away? The extra moisture will strengthen the concrete or do I misunderstand? Then there is no need for plastic.

[@StudPack]

The slab had plastic vapor barrier under it from original construction. I wanted to keep it intact as best I could although it probably wouldn’t matter.

[@druiendowns2]

I know my comment is late to the party but I just found your videos (they're fantastic!). When I was watching you fill in your cut in the slab, I noticed that you didn't wet the slab before you starting putting in the new concrete. I've always read/seen that you want to wet the slab/brick that will be near your new concrete so that it doesn't suck the moisture from the wet concrete.

[@StudPack]

Not a bad idea Kris. This was a small patch and sack concrete already has a lot of water in it...

[@druiendowns2]

@@StudPack good to know. Thanks for the quick reply! Awesome videos too, I'm making my way through this playlist and it's great.

[@StudPack]

Thx Kris 👊

[@durantetest]

Got a few questions here: - Won't the foundation develop cracks given that its integrity has been weakened by the removal of concrete? - If so, what do you do to prevent them? - had it been a post-tensioned foundation, would you have started the project? Great video. Liked/subscribed. Thanks.

[@StudPack]

I feel this was more of a patch than a structural repair. In a structural repair in a slab I would have drilled horizontally into the edge of the slab and Epoxied rebar to tie it all together. In a post tension slab, the cables would need to be located by a company that has the right equipment and then basically you cut your holes in the slab to avoid the cables.

[@3nertia]

Concrete is a chemical process - once the new concrete sets, it'll be structurally the same as the old concrete :)

[@Azcyncyn]

Do you need a permit to do something like this?

[@mauriciogarcia293]

Good video. What type of wire did you use to run inside the conduit ? Nm ?

[@StudPack]

Thx Mauricio! Yes the cable is 6-3 NM-B.

[@freightshayker]

Ugg, price of rental more than cost of purchasing new. Anyways. Thanks for all the great videos and detailed explanation. Much appreciated. Peace of Lord Jesus upon you and yours

[@StudPack]

Thx David 👍💪

[@robertopp7993]

One pass when cutting concrete and asphalt.

[@johns5127]

Did u just use regular concrete to fill in the canyon

[@StudPack]

Yep. Redi-mix concrete in 80 lb bags 👍

[@LuisSanchez-wf9zw]

What type of cement did you use for this? Is there a specific pressure type for it? And what is a post tension slab?

[@StudPack]

Plain ole concrete mix from the home center 80 lb bags. Nothing special needed for this type of patch. A post tension slab uses metal cables called tendons that are tensioned after the concrete has cured for a specified amount of time. Cutting one with a concrete saw or core drill is a major problem and expensive to repair. Some good articles online. Thx Luis!!

[@JoePaparazziTV]

Great work!!!

[@StudPack]

Thank you!

[@pnutmal]

We cut in 2 or 3 passes

[@KnightProLLC]

Keep up the good work.

[@jtbrigade3557]

U guys are good 👍

[@stepanvinnikov6024]

2 inch pvc for electrical overkill pvc for gas line hopefully your using something inside for it inside. Just over kill would’ve used ridged galvanised 3/4 pipe for gas.

[@StudPack]

Not overkill. We ran one 6/3 and one 12/2 thru that 2 “. It’s acting more like a chase than conduit. It’s open on both ends, no connectors, boxes, etc. it’s how inspectors want that done here. Regarding the gas line, we ran CSST through there. Can’t run threaded pipe under slabs anymore. Not here at least

[@stepanvinnikov6024]

I watched your second video, you guys are pretty good builders. Not the typical butcher type like your videos.

[@kikamoni74]

@@StudPack Are you in California?

[@anthonyvelasquez4184]

Great Video! Is there a reason you used 2" conduit? I feel like the Gas line and the Electrical could probably fit in a 1" or less conduit

[@StudPack]

I learned long ago to always oversize conduits. On this job the flexible gas line is probably 1” in diameter. On the electric side there is one 12/2 and one 6/3 I think. 2” makes pulling so much easier for not much more money

[@anthonyvelasquez4184]

@@StudPack gotcha that makes sense. Thanks for the reply!

[@lifeofomid186]

How deep and wide did y'all cut the concrete slab?

[@StudPack]

Probably 6" wide. I don't remember exactly. Just enough to get the two 2" conduits in there side by side with a little wiggle room. Depth... we went all the way thru so that I had 4" of coverage of new concrete on top of the conduit.

[@nancydelvalle7728]

How much does something like this cost? I need to move my stove. Does that mean I need to dig through the concrete to move the gas pipe/stove across the room?!! Omg!

[@StudPack]

We did it like this because the stove was in the island.

[@ThienCao850]

Did you put a vapor barrier under the concrete?

[@StudPack]

Yes

[@craigfrazier134]

Great video. Did you have to do anything for for the sill plate after cutting that far into it?

[@StudPack]

Thx Craig 👊. Regarding the sill plate all I did was add a nail plate across it to protect the conduits from nails/screws.

[@cdurkinz]

You looked crushed on the blade cost I wonder how much that was.

[@StudPack]

Yeah it was much more than I expected

[@galliankrowe]

do you work in ATL area, Im hiring

[@donnie4593]

Great

[@cwitham69]

"I'm sorry that's a pointed bit - this is a chisel" Gear up Jordan, pops is getting dementia ;~) im older than him by almost a generation HA!

[@jamespyke2118]

Bell end?

[@StudPack]

Yeah the larger end. Looks like a bell I guess 😀👍

[@whocares6698]

As much as you rent the bosch chipping hammer why not just buy one? Seems it would have paid for itself by now

[@StudPack]

It’s a tool I’d rather not own 😬

[@robertroy8803]

@@StudPack hah famous last words...

[@neighborhoodbasketballprogram]

Dad are you a contractor? How did you learn this stuff?

[@StudPack]

Yes. Been in the trades all my life. Cut my teeth on the commercial side. Been fortunate to work along side some very talented tradesmen during the journey

[@steveramirez1654]

👍

[@craighartley551]

What ever the makers recommend,not the guy that’s renting it to you.

[@jimbosti6769]

If you guys comment how little time it took you to do something how come you don't comment how long it took you to do longer stuff. Example.. on this video it only took 5 minutes to put up plastic. But no comment on how long it took to cut and break concrete. Suppose to be real life videos

[@StudPack]

Sorry about that Jimbosti, we only mentioned that part because a lot of people won't take the time to put up plastic. We wanted to show how easy it was. Cutting and breaking the concrete probably took us 4 hours if you include 3 trips to the rental yard.

[@rdm20fan1]

So Many Commercials, Cant watch anymore

[@idxdesign]

Adblock plus kills the ads

[@mikeclarke3005]

Yeah KZbin sucks anymore, wish everyone would move to rumble