How to diagnose and FIX a noisy bandsaw

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[@jrumbel]

Run the saw with no blade to determine if the vibration is coming from the lower half. Tells you straight away if it's pulleys, belt or lower wheel issues. If it's worse with the blade it indicates upper wheel involvment.

[@diverdave4056]

I spent more than 1000 hours running a Delta band saw and I decided to install a Carter Band Saw Bearing Guide ... its SWEET !

[@philshock3805]

I picked up a used Rigid 14in bandsaw about 10 years ago for $75. I took a risk because there wasn't any way to test it ... looked as if it had been sitting outside - lots of rust and fading, the upper section was loose, and the tires and belt were shot. Brought it home, cleaned it up, installed urethane tires, a new link belt, redid the mounting platform with MDF, installed cool blocks and a new blade. It's super solid and has worked like a champ ever since. Not bad for a $150 investment.

[@sapelesteve]

Great bandsaw tips James! I would add making sure that the base of the bandsaw is contacting the floor evenly in all corners and that the saw is level. 👍👍

[@petergamache5368]

"Blade squeal" is the noise I make when I see worn out teeth on the bandsaw, then look at my wallet.

[@lechatbotte.]

Lol perfect

[@ryananthony4840]

Lol

[@jwar2163]

Lols you buying those gold blades.

[@tonyn3123]

My brand-new high-end bandsaw began making a terrible noise. I listened closely and isolated the sound to the motor area. This was more pronounced inside the cabinet, so I figured I had a bearing issue. Called the company and they gave me numerous things and ways to check it before returning it. With their help, I discovered a motor mount bolt loose; reinforcing as you stated in your video. This bolt was partially covered by the lower wheel; thus I just missed it on my initial search. Honestly, it was loose enough to rattle, and it sure did. Luckily there were three other bolts holding the motor in place. Tightened it and all was good with the world. I guess my bandsaw has become my go-to machine in my shop whenever possible. Thanks.

[@szcustomwoodworks6401]

I sure am glad you are back... I was starting to worry where I was going to get my tips, trick, and cool tool advice if something happened you. I hope all is well. Hear is to you and a new year!!!!

[@allaylan7498]

You are one of the best communicators on KZbin James! Thank you for what you do.

[@raydriver7300]

I thoroughly enjoy your videos,James, and every one is part of my learning curve. Thank you for sharing 🌞

[@Yawles]

Welcome back! You were missed.

[@johngermain3535]

Watched the video and went out and did a check up on my bandsaw had a loose upper pulley and a worn belt replaced both and lots less vibration. Thanks for the information.

[@wiredperformance6130]

The earbuds have my interest. Hopefully I will remember in 2 months when I’m back to work!

[@shermantank]

Welcome Back James! I've been jonesing for stumpy vids! Also thank you for bringing this to my attention, I probably need to address more than one of these on my bandsaw.

[@zapa1pnt]

Definitely, go for the link belt option. It makes a difference on any belt driven tool. Worth the money.

[@joeyjohnson9765]

STUMPY’S BACK 🎉

[@brainphd7527]

Tell a friend!

[@connorhart7597]

Maybe the real stumpy was the friends we made along the way

[@norm5785]

Wonderful information, thank you for sharing. Stay warm, safe, happy and healthy. From Henrico County Virginia

[@Tiger2000Lion2005]

I have a PM 1800 and I put on the bluemax tires and they worked extremely well and much better than stock yellow ones. There was vibration being caused by green wood sap that had accumulated on the tires and the bandsaw went from smooth with no vibration to noticeable vibration. After changing the tires it went back to no vibration and the urethane tires were a great upgrade. For anyone trying them, first definitely try it as they are very high quality and fit very well. Second they are easy to put on by hand with one spring clamp as they recommend in instructions that come with the tires. Third, as recommended elsewhere, take off the wheels in order to apply them. Note that the bottom wheels have the grooved belt attached to it so you need to first loosen the tension on the belt and then remove the bottom tire. Repeat the process when putting things back on at the end. I’ve never done this before, and it only took me approximately 20 to 30 minutes, and the hardest part was simply getting the yellow tires off the wheel.

[@mypony891]

He lives! Good to hear ya again

[@thomasbrecknell794]

Just bought my first Bandsaw a few minutes ago, great timing for your wonderful video, thanks.

[@zapa1pnt]

Right after good blades, get a link belt. You will be glad you did.

[@patrickortiz9075]

This is so helpful. I have only used the bandsaw at a local “maker space” and have never known if the noises it makes are normal or not or if I’m doing something wrong.

[@johndufford5561]

Thank you very much for your explainations in this video, James. The blade squeal especially. Up until viewing this, I was convinced it was caused by my dog, hiding around the corner & blowing a silent human whistle...

[@jaayjones5937]

Took your other advice regarding band saw, bought a Harvey, put on a Wood Slicer blade an now can cut veneer off my 9-11" cherry boards. Your advice re Pentel pencils has not worked. The lead continues to retreat into the pen, not break. I bought a bunch of BIC 5 mm and leave them all over the shop. 24 BIC for less than one Pentel. Still love your clamp rack and all the other stuff.

[@Brad_R_LiveFit]

Thank you for this. I have been getting that high squeal on my new Jet 9" saw, and I was frustrated because though it's not a high end band saw, it is sure isn't a low end one either. I've been using the cheap blade it came with, and recently purchased some better quality blades. I was going to "use up" the cheaper blade before switching, but now I think I'm just going to make the switch. I hope it removes or lessens that annoying squeal.

[@janderson2375]

Thanks for putting this out! I have blade squeal and no matter how I tuned things up, I thought it was still something I was doing while resawing. Once my current blade wears out, I'll check out a different blade type.

[@bertrousbert]

For mine the god awful noise was the bearings. Recently replaced the top wheel bearings and all the bearings on the guides. What a difference!

[@brettpeckinpaugh]

OMG glad you are back, was getting worried something happened to you with how long you were away from posting.

[@michaelmcdermott2178]

Not surprisingly, this is useful, clear and enjoyable to watch. Thanks!

[@endoireland]

My wood seems to burn on one side - I’ve been meaning to reset everything as was out for a long while recently due to surgery but is there an obvious cause for this that I might look to first.?? It’s a table model as all I have room for-thanks and welcome back.😅

[@mariushegli]

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[@garylambert5212]

Have you ever tried variable pitch bandsaw blades. That’s all I used to used on larger Doall and Johnson metal cutting bandsaws. I see they are available and recommended for resawing wood.

[@RobertKarlBerta]

Welcome back!.....You hit on a major issue for several tools....the belts. Other machines have similar issues. Besides my band saws, I also have a metal lathe and milling machine which also have V belts. Since I live in Michigan where my shop does get a bit cold during the winter, I found those regular V belts were having a major problem when cold as they had lost their suppleness and deformed. I found that the problems I had went away when I used a high heat gun to warm the belts up. That is when I chucked all the belts and went with link belts.....problem solved. I can see how those old belts could put a lot of stress on the bearings, gear train (in addition to the belts my band saw has a transmission to select from very low to high speed), and of course premature wear on the saw blade. The vibration those belts caused were bad enough I could hear and see them even on ny1200# metal lathe! And now I don't have to break out the heat gun.

[@DCgamer723]

Good to know, I am inheriting a 12inch craftsman that's probably 15+ years old and really heavy. May upgrade some parts

[@DconBlueZ]

Thanks for the video, always enjoy watching!

[@WiscoWoodShop]

Thanks for this. Good information and very informative. I have Harvey’s big band saw. Your past bandsaw tutorial video help me with my decision. Any recommendations on replacement blades?

[@Old52Guy]

Excellent! This has solved a chronic problem I've had with my saw. Thanks!

[@denisemccarson1163]

That’s great info in such a short time. Thank you

[@MyName-zd9pe]

Thanks for the info! We just bought a bandsaw. 🤠✝️🇺🇸

[@lkp323]

Vibration in my self built saw (Matthias Wandel style) were drastically reduced when I had built the machine cabinet below it and put that on lockable castors instead of normal cabinet feet. Those castors add some flexibility and compensate some vibration from the machine. And in the bottom drawer of the cabinet I keep my glueing weights. So all together this is quite stable. Matthias has also reported, that some flexibility of the machine stand reduces vibration sometimes better than bolting it to the ground.

[@MCsCreations]

Fantastic tips, James! Thanks a bunch! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@johnlp3376]

Been missing you lol I only have a small bandsaw now. I'm saving for a bigger one now maybe by end of year. Thanks for information I'm save this video for future reference.

[@Uglidan307]

Stupid question, but if I can bear the squeak, does it matter that much, only really hear when resawing, I mean I am wearing my ISO tunes hearing protection?

[@WoodenItBeNice]

Brilliant James. I have a new Bandsaw I bought from Axminster but I will be checking what you suggested in this video. Thanks James and take care. Cheers, Huw

[@glencrandall7051]

Great tips all. Thank you for sharing.🙂🙂

[@edwinlikeshistractor8521]

Does leaving the blade under tension all the time cause any unusual things, like vibration, to happen? Should I loosen it between uses? As you can tell I am a bandsaw novice. Thank you for all your shared expertise.

[@lkp323]

On my self built wooden bandsaw I normally keep the blades under tension. The wooden construction withstands that stress without problems. Nevertheless I've tead that it's recommended that the blades on metal machines should not be kept under tension when not used. The frame might suffer slight bends over time. Especially with the broad resawing blades and high tension. Practical hint: If you de-tension the blade after use, better put a sticker on the saw, to inform yourself or others about the situation. It's not THAT good to start the saw with a loose blade...

[@edwinlikeshistractor8521]

@@lkp323 Thank you, I will slack it up tonight. I will put one of my maglocks on the blade as a reminder.

[@sharg0]

While I'm mostly use bandsaws for metal variable tooth spacing/size is wonderful, makes them cut both smoother and better at handle a large variation of what's being cut.

[@mpart_woodlathe-stuff]

I had a noise on my old 14" Jet and also have heard it on other saws (YT vid) so wasn't unique to me ... sort of a "sproing" randomly every dozen or so seconds. I did everything but to no avail. Then one day I noticed the blade guard wasn't at the same position when low vs. when high (1" vs 6") setting. It made the guide blocks move to the right if the blocks were adjusted at 1" and then raised to 6". So the blade would move a bit and then 'sproing' back and repeat. My solution is to set the guide blocks each time I moved the blade guard assembly.

[@blandmccartha]

Tightening the knob that secures the blade guide column from going up and down after changing the blade guide height. Always tighten that knob before making the cut.

[@dreamrocker9287]

Good Video , Do you have any suggestion on a buying a worthwhile band saw on a strict budget , I'm disabled and don't need the stand , any good brands ?

[@StumpyNubs]

If you are on a budget, the biggest bang for your buck may be a used saw from the 90's or earlier. Watch Craigslist and be patient.

[@dreamrocker9287]

@@StumpyNubs Thank You good idea

[@watermain48]

Very informative James, thanks for sharing.

[@billfarkas8247]

Good to see a new video James seems like you slowed down your content.

[@lint2023]

The vibration / tooth pitch segment was especially interesting.

[@Farm_fab]

James, one of the things that can make a band saw wheel out of balance is the buildup of sawdust on it. Woods that have varying moisture content can be a cause, as can how the wood being cut was stored. There are obviously other variables in this category, but I would think these are the most common.

[@StumpyNubs]

I covered sawdust buildup, didn't I?

[@Self_Evident]

@@StumpyNubs Well, you mentioned "caked on dust" on the tires (@2:52), but not the much larger build up on on the wheels themselves.

[@johnford7847]

Useful stuff, Jim. Thank you very much.

[@garrettswoodworx1873]

Thanks James & welcome back! As you can tell, you were missed!

[@danalaniz7314]

Such useful and succinct information. Thank you!

[@hassanal-mosawi4235]

Thanks for sharing those tips.

[@Webjaybird]

I would recommend replacing any sheet metal base with a well built plywood cabinet. It will get rid of a lot of the rattling, metal on metal of the sheet metal one. On any saws with sheet metal wheel covers, spray the inside with automotive undercoating or bed liner. The kind that will dry. It will also absorb lots of annoying vibration.

[@daviddura1172]

Always a learning experience

[@ianmoore525]

I’m sure I can see a dob of CA glue under that key. Only kidding, love ur work, keep it up. 👍🏻

[@timpassmore8674]

Welcome back!

[@aaudain1]

Very interested 👌 I was wondering you just answer my questions 😀 😄 🙂

[@Heart-Beliefs--SamWilliamson]

Good to have you back. As you can tell by all the comments, we love your work.

[@jimanderson4495]

Thanks James 😊

[@tomthomson1909]

Back just in time. I guess I'll cancel that doctor appointment for Stumpy withdrawal shakes!

[@SnakeAndTurtleQigong]

Thanks so much

[@patrickhotra9241]

You didn't mention the howling sound my Laguna 14" saw makes when I cut through just about any kind of wood. I've even herd it on woodworking videos, although the person using the saw didn't mention it.

[@blandmccartha]

You're probably pushing the wood too hard. Try a very light pressure on the wood to allow the blade to do the cutting. Be patient and go slow. You will get straight clean cuts with no squealing

[@SteveC38]

Doin' My Part, James👍

[@54mgtf22]

Love your work 👍

[@dpmeyer4867]

thanks

[@mikekopp4936]

Stumpy. I really enjoy your videos and I learn a lot, but there are not many people doing how to and trick of the trade videos any more. Most are focused on sales of products. I would really like for some back to the basics videos if you wouldn’t mind. Thank you.

[@StumpyNubs]

Isn't this a "how to or trick of the trade video?"

[@mikekopp4936]

@@StumpyNubs yes it is and I enjoy the sharing of knowledge. I was referring to learning more from your years of woodwork and the skills you’ve gained. Thank you for responding. And I do like these videos and the cool tools also

[@justsomeguy2743]

I know nothing about any of this this is basically talking Spanish to me yet I’m watching and I’m entertained what’s happening to me???

[@LyleAshbaugh]

Let’s see how much vibration I get when I build the bandsaw using your plans I bought from your website. 🤔

[@terristroh3965]

If I had two nickels to scrape together, I’d use one to check for any vibration of my bandsaw. 😂

[@wolflahti412]

In my experience, installing link belts invariable made vibration worse on my power tools.

[@treythorsen225]

Im a novice with my powermatic bandsaw. I set it up myself. Every time I start a cut, the blade moves to the right as I push the wood through. The blade seems to be set on the wheel with the throat of the blade on the center (as described by Alex Snodgrass's video). It has made me not want to use the saw anymore. Any help you can give me is appreciated.

[@blandmccartha]

Watch the video "Eliminate bandsaw drift" by Michael Fortune. Do what he says and your saw will cut straight and true.

[@treythorsen225]

@@blandmccartha AWESOME! Will do. Thanks!!!

[@wingman8447]

Good stuff

[@dennisstahl7621]

96 comments maybe this has been addressed? Mine makes a creaking sound when spinning down. Dirty wheel?

[@monteglover4133]

Do you or anyone else have a suggestion on how to remove the tires on my very early (30’s ?) bandsaw as they are glued on and badly cracked? Unable to find any information anywhere.

[@garrettswoodworx1873]

There's no simple way but heat, Acetone and elbow grease worked for me. You should be able to pry much of the tire off with a screwdriver or putty knife (cut it into sections if necessary but be careful not to damage the wheel). A little heat from your bernz-o-matic will help with the stubborn stuff and then acetone on a rag and a putty knife to remove the glue residue. Remember to protect your hands and lungs!

[@MorrMedia1]

My bandsaw is basically new and makes a whooshing sound during cuts like wind howling. I can’t figure it out. It happens with the normal 6 bearing setup, and when using a single Carter blade stabilizer grooved bearing. I’ve also repacked the regular bearings. Any ideas from anyone here? Thanks

[@MrPete1x]

Don't forget to back off the tension if the machine is not going to be used for a while

[@craigmckinney2219]

A guy I was working with was cutting on the bandsaw. The saw started squealing, sparks started flying and he kept cutting. I went over and unplugged the machine to get him to stop. Here's the rule: squeal, sparks or blood, stop immediately! (bad bearing)

[@ItsBarnabyJones]

Hello, i have a DW749IRS table saw and after installing the anti-kickback assembly on the blade guard attachment, for some reason the spikes only on the left side of the plate are getting caught and stuck on the throat plate when i raise and lower the blade. I have adjusted the throat plate number times and have checked to make sure the throat plate is not bent. There is a groove on this particular throat plate made by Dewalt in which the spikes from the anti-kickback assembly is getting caught on. Please help i cannot find a solution anywhere and have found no one else who has had this issue on the entire internet. P.S it IS installed correctly, and i called a Dewalt service station and they just said to bring it in, but i wanna fix it myself b/c the drive is just way to far. HELP from ANYONE is welcome. Thanks

[@rastapete100]

Mine makes an odd noise. It seems to be playing Bob Seger's Night Moves. I don't want to fix it.

[@Chris.Davies]

My three-wheeler does not make this sound. But I never try to resaw with it!

[@donovanleeds4012]

My bandsaw problem is the inability to find replacement parts since one of the wheels is warped and causes the blade to slip off.

[@ipick4fun27]

Phew, for a second, I thought you were plucking the blade as it was running (by the motor)

[@StumpyNubs]

I said to do it while turning the wheel

[@ipick4fun27]

@@StumpyNubs I know. My eyes are in front of my ear. It receive info quicker and hence processed before I heard you. J/K. Either that or the "turning" part didn't sync quickly enough. I was stumped at 1st and quickly realized you were turning it.

[@chaselee86]

I thought you are cutting a key with bandsaw...LOL

[@marcmacialek9250]

Oo. I got the first comment.

[@marcmacialek9250]

Been a while since you posted a video. I enjoy your teaching style and look forward to them.