STUNNING 1960s B&O Vintage Radio - BEOMASTER 900K - Can I FIX it?

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My Mate VINCE

My Mate VINCE

3 ай бұрын

In this video I attempt to repair the first mains powered transistor radio/amplifier from Bang & Olufsen. It cost a small fortune back in the 1960s and was quite cutting edge apparently. I purchased this faulty from eBay and unfortunately it became even more faulty during transit!!!
It is an absolute beauty in terms of looks and engineering. Can it be made to work again. Let's find out.
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Remember that this is just for entertainment and I am not an expert in these repairs. The processes in the video may not be the best way, the correct way or the safest way to fix these things. I do love fault finding and trying to fix broken things, so I hope that comes across in this 'Trying to FIX' series. Many thanks, Vince.

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@jadoon2981
@jadoon2981 3 ай бұрын
never worry about the videos being too long Vince we will watch no matter what
@Mymatevince
@Mymatevince 3 ай бұрын
Thank you
@wolf1438
@wolf1438 3 ай бұрын
there is not such a thing as too long video. Only viewers with patience too short.
@maxjakobsen5526
@maxjakobsen5526 3 ай бұрын
No, there is no danger of that when the video runs at 10 X speed. Thumbs down for that.
@Claes_Isacson
@Claes_Isacson 3 ай бұрын
100%
@theslatepipebanjodraggers8980
@theslatepipebanjodraggers8980 3 ай бұрын
Make them a bit longer. 😊 Tbh I get totally engrossed. If you put these on at the cinema I'd go and see them.
@TerryLawrence001
@TerryLawrence001 3 ай бұрын
Some radio rebuilders put the modern capacitor inside the old can to keep the appearances the same.
@Mymatevince
@Mymatevince 3 ай бұрын
Great idea 👍👍👍
@klorslug
@klorslug 3 ай бұрын
Need to recap my Heathkit W5M mono amp, most difficult part will be opening the cans to put new capacitors in. They’re a main aesthetic of that amp.
@AstrosElectronicsLab
@AstrosElectronicsLab 3 ай бұрын
Whoops, replied on wrong comment thread.
@PekkaSiltala
@PekkaSiltala 3 ай бұрын
That bridge rectifier makes 50 Hz to 100 Hz as it "flips The negative side to positive" and there was a spike at that frequency. 200 Hz was just a harmonic multiply of it.
@Torbjorn.Lindgren
@Torbjorn.Lindgren 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, there's a big peak at 100Hz too, and there's a whole bunch of additional harmonics clearly visible above 200Hz too. I suspect the reason the 100Hz peak is lower than the 200Hz harmonics is either because the speaker falls off at low frequencies, the app tries to approximate hearing sensitive or that the mic in the phone is less sensitive down low (might well be a combination). Other than the 100Hz being a bit low the sequence of harmonics peaks is exactly what should be expected.
@KorAllRBare
@KorAllRBare 3 ай бұрын
Close, but no cigar it's all about the diodes and how each contribute a 50 Hz signal to the supply rail.
@Torbjorn.Lindgren
@Torbjorn.Lindgren 3 ай бұрын
@@KorAllRBare No, he's exactly right. A full bridge rectifier doubles the input frequency of the input AC, IE 100Hz or 120Hz. Which is why there's a significant peak at 100Hz that MMV didn't notice because the 200Hz "first harmonic" peak was higher due to the equipent and/or speaker he used.
@KorAllRBare
@KorAllRBare 3 ай бұрын
Well maybe you're right@@Torbjorn.Lindgren it's well over 48 Years since being schooled on rectification and the umpteen configurations utilising inductors, diodes and capacitors dealing with unwanted noise and possible harmonics, but I do remember how that 200Hz is to be expected, and I am pretty sure it's a lot to do with the timing in reference to each transformers secondary winding inductances and it's Va and at what point at any given moment each diode is conducting the inputted rising and or falling Voltage/Current comparative to all other secondary outputs that may or may not be in phase and thus adding to our supply rails design considerations.
@thomasesr
@thomasesr 3 ай бұрын
Indeed, the mobile phone Mic is not setup to pickup lower frequencies in that range. So the harmonic is more prominent in the spectrum analyser. You would see the 100hz if you used the frequency range slider on your mini scope.
@devttyUSB0
@devttyUSB0 3 ай бұрын
Finding that envelope was a gem! Wish they'd still give out schematics with hardware! Awesome fix, Vince!
@Mymatevince
@Mymatevince 3 ай бұрын
Lovely isn't it, and in such good condition as well 👌
@habana7638
@habana7638 3 ай бұрын
@@Mymatevince I have a Beomaster 3000-2, and also an envelope with the schematics inside, probably B&O used to do this more often, caps need to be replaced.
@lrander
@lrander 3 ай бұрын
I would love to see the other piece of paper that was in there - it looked like a letter? Probably something along the line of "Thank you for buying this"!?
@thomasw6169
@thomasw6169 3 ай бұрын
Since when was IP a thing? Probably when one started copying from another. And that was the end of those marvelous schematics.
@trevor245
@trevor245 3 ай бұрын
@@habana7638 many audio brands from this period did this it's not a b&o thing. Caps need to be replaced for longevity but you shouldn't expect a massive sound improvment upon replacement. It's more so a peace of mind thing then an audible improvement in most instances. If you have vintage speakers replacing the filter caps can make a massive difference though.
@gilles111
@gilles111 3 ай бұрын
Mitropa is a German short for Mitteleuropa (Middle Europe). Officially Mitropa was a company exploiting dinner and sleeping cars on European train routes since the 1910's but in the 1950's and 60's it was also used as a short for the mid Europe area. As in that time Europe was divided by the Iron Curtain and B&O was focusing on the Western European market the Mitropa area only shows on the panel only stations from Luxembourg/Belgium/Italy/The Netherlands/Austria and Switzerland. The sound at 1:07:25 is a data signal. Can be anything but most likely digital communication between a main building and a remote installation of a factory somewhere near you.
@stduffy72
@stduffy72 3 ай бұрын
It's morse. Probably on the ham bands.
@UKSimon4170
@UKSimon4170 3 ай бұрын
Those signals you were querying at the end are CW (morse). I imagine the receiver covers the 40m amateur band (7000 to 7200 kHz) band. CW is found at the bottom on that band.
@SteveBrace
@SteveBrace 3 ай бұрын
I think you're correct, other than the band... It's probably Morse the bottom end (1.81MHz - 1.838MHz) of the 160m band judging by the dial scale. This is a wideband broadcast AM/FM receiver and doesn't have the narrowband filter required for reception of individual CW stations... Interesting that the BFO managed to pick-out CW though. 73 DE 2E0PTY
@Doddsy-IoM
@Doddsy-IoM 3 ай бұрын
I was gonna say it sounds like PSK-31 or something like that
@tiggydorset9041
@tiggydorset9041 3 ай бұрын
I was thinking it sounded like a data mode of some description, but the suggestion that the receive is wide band does seem plausable of multiple CW transmissions.
@hubertsteenbekkers1522
@hubertsteenbekkers1522 3 ай бұрын
Psk 31 or psk 62 teletype or telex thre are computer programs that can decode it
@fredcooper2063
@fredcooper2063 3 ай бұрын
.....The Ali tubes with screws sticking out are 'beehive' trimmer capacitors..They are for alignment, don't twiddle willy-nilly!! Feeling my age!!!! :-)
@leosmith848
@leosmith848 3 ай бұрын
Beat me to it!
@Mymatevince
@Mymatevince 3 ай бұрын
Thank you Fred👍
@tonep3168
@tonep3168 3 ай бұрын
The electrolytic caps are 60 plus years old. Don’t play with them, just replace them as a matter of course.
@user-lx3th5on8l
@user-lx3th5on8l 3 ай бұрын
They're probably leaky best to replace all the caps with modern ones for extra reliable performance ❤
@peha524
@peha524 3 ай бұрын
Mitropa are probably "mitt- Europa" aka middle Europe. The cabinet are teak, I think. EKS means extra (Danish=ekstra) speaker. It's possible to have a kitchen speaker, so the lady of the house, can hear the same as the father and the son in the living room.
@WillParker322
@WillParker322 3 ай бұрын
Pretty cool, thanks!
@francoispapadakis76
@francoispapadakis76 3 ай бұрын
And you could plug in the external speaker plugs on two ways: one direction to switch off the internal loudspeaker and the other direction to keep it connected. Some brands offered an external speaker box with the same design as the build-in speaker. By adding only one box you could "widen" the stereo effect in the room.
@philcollins7701
@philcollins7701 3 ай бұрын
No not teak or any kind of natural timber the case is made from laminate covered chipboard.
@peha524
@peha524 3 ай бұрын
@@philcollins7701 Teak veneer, but real Teak. It is definitely not vinyl. I have several B&O from the period. It fits with the Danish design standard.
@philcollins7701
@philcollins7701 3 ай бұрын
Ok maybe teak veneer but a chipboard core the restriction on imported teak was coming in about this time and the case would have been to costly made from solld teak.
@ianbutler1983
@ianbutler1983 3 ай бұрын
Your videos are among the ones that can never be too long. Like a great book, the longer the better. Those with less interest can fast forward.
@TheRealSasquatch
@TheRealSasquatch 3 ай бұрын
200Hz (199Hz) is the 4th harmonic of 50Hz - I'm guessing the receiver picked up the harmonic as the main filter caps weren't working. With any kit of this age - you can almost guarantee the caps will have failed.
@Mymatevince
@Mymatevince 3 ай бұрын
Thank you
@andyjdhurley
@andyjdhurley 3 ай бұрын
Also the bridge rectifier was working so that would double the frequency to start with. Speaking of the caps that one just above the corroded fuse looked a bit suspect - it could have leaked onto the fuse if it was stored in that orientation. I think I would look to replace all the caps at least in that area and you may find it sounds a lot better.
@fredcooper2063
@fredcooper2063 3 ай бұрын
... The power supply capacitor has a 'ripple current' rating, important for smoothing & power supply capacitors, Vince!! Your replacement may not last too long!! look on the 'better' sellers websites, ( R.S, Mouser etc } and look at the specs of the capacitors. I find, as modern day capacitors get smaller, if you get one roughly the same size as the one you have taken out, at the same capacitance value, a modern one has more 'ripple current' rating, so would be just fine !! { Cheers, Fred 50 years tv & video engineer }
@fredcooper5236
@fredcooper5236 3 ай бұрын
Take Note, Vince!!!!
@garethseymour2788
@garethseymour2788 3 ай бұрын
I have to say - I think the fixing audio equipment has turned out to be my favourite category of fixes. Especially the hi-fi B&O, Grundig etc. Keep it going....!!
@wisher21uk
@wisher21uk 3 ай бұрын
Look up mend it Mark if you like Audio repairs 😊
@adampoll4977
@adampoll4977 3 ай бұрын
@@wisher21uk Mark must be the most cheerful technician on the planet!
@wisher21uk
@wisher21uk 3 ай бұрын
@@adampoll4977 true even when he gets a kick off of the capacitors he has a laugh lol
@PileOfEmptyTapes
@PileOfEmptyTapes 3 ай бұрын
Sounds like you've got a positive ground circuit there, which was very common in radios in the germanium era. I guess it made it easier for people to wrap their heads around the circuitry and still draw it the traditional way, with germaniums almost exclusively being pnp devices (which those raised on _vacuum bulbs_ would not have been accustomed to, as those are basically n-channel devices). They went back to positive supplies and negative ground with the advent of silicon which is npn by default.
@LegendSpecialist
@LegendSpecialist 3 ай бұрын
finding a schematic diagram inside device was 10/10👌
@GadgetUK164
@GadgetUK164 3 ай бұрын
If you think about the bridge, and the 4 diodes - that is what gives you the approx 200Hz (4 x the 50Hz AC) - the reason you don't hear that with the cap, is those pulses get smoothed out to a neat clean DC! Brilliant job Vince =D
@Mymatevince
@Mymatevince 3 ай бұрын
Thank you Chris 👍😎
@JohnGotts
@JohnGotts 3 ай бұрын
I've been a ham since 1991, and I agree with CS6PY from Portugal that you heard CQ CQ. Morse code or continuous wave (CW) requires very little bandwidth, so you simply heard many hams communicating or attempting to communicate on many different frequencies at the same time. CW is an extremely efficient way to use bandwidth so you tune to a very narrow frequency range and use an extremely tight filter compared to voice (aka phone) to chat. Today's ham radios are absolutely amazing and cost many thousands of dollars but you ran into what sounded like pretty favorable conditions. 73 DE N8QDW.
@sprint955st
@sprint955st 3 ай бұрын
Or you can get into the hobby on 2m for £30, or 10m for £150.
@EdoDijkgraaf
@EdoDijkgraaf 3 ай бұрын
I have a Beomaster 8000 and a Beomaster 900 in my office. The 8000 needs maintainance and has not been on for (?) 2 years now. The 900 is what I listen to. It is not as good as the 8000 when both are in good shape. The sound of the internal speakers simply cannot be crisp. If I want that, I have to add some external speakers to the setup. But I probably never will. I love the too warm sound coming out of it. It is on the mantle, doing what it does best. It brings me the news and my favorite radio shows. It relaxes me with a blanket of sound that sounds anything but harsh. Love this video. If the 900 ever starts humming everything will be replaced, but I will know where to start. Cheers!
@CreeBreej
@CreeBreej 3 ай бұрын
That sound at 1.07 is CW aka morse code which is for used by the amateur radio community. Also down on that band is RTTY which is also used by the same guys but is computer generated. This frequency is known as top band.
@wasunaidu9729
@wasunaidu9729 3 ай бұрын
First - fix the hum problem before disassembly of the whole unit, which you already did! Replace the main power supply capacitor - it should be very dry by now. Radio being old, I would replace the 4 diodes in the bridge rectifier circuit. If the hum goes away, then the power supply is OK. If not, then there is a open ground - either in the AC power cord or on the circuit board. Good luck!!
@0ButterBall
@0ButterBall 3 ай бұрын
I gave "Mitropa" a look myself as a geographical term and the closest I could find was a German shorthand for "Middle Europe." Following the row I can recognize Luxembourg and Brussels, so I think that's what it is.
@Mymatevince
@Mymatevince 3 ай бұрын
Thank you Butter Ball 👌
@Woffy.
@Woffy. 3 ай бұрын
Sound more sensible than a National railway company. Thank for finding that out.
@JacGoudsmit
@JacGoudsmit 3 ай бұрын
37:46 In case no-one else has mentioned it: If you plug the speakers in one way, it turns the internal speakers off, otherwise it keeps the internal speakers going as well as the external ones. 46:02 You could have connected the bench power supply to the capacitor (without turning the AC power on) to power the unit, and you would have found out that the hum was gone, i.e. it was coming from the mains AC. Something to keep in mind for the future perhaps. Great video! Thanks for posting.
@Mymatevince
@Mymatevince 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Jac 👍
@rogierius
@rogierius Ай бұрын
I thought AC capacitors block DC current?
@JacGoudsmit
@JacGoudsmit Ай бұрын
@@rogierius yes (more or less). The transformer changes the voltage, then diodes make sure the voltage is always positive, and then the filter capacitor is supposed to stabilize the voltage because when it comes straight from the diodes, there is still a lot of "swing" in it. When the filter capacitor isn't working, you hear it as hum. You could say the capacitor filters out the hum by shorting it to ground and doesn't let any DC current through to ground. My suggestion was to clamp a bench power supply onto the failed capacitor, so basically to inject DC into the circuit. The failed capacitor still doesn't short out the DC voltage (now from the bench supply) but because there's no hum to begin with, there's none to filter out either (which the capacitor couldn't do because it had failed). So the system would have been hum-free, proving that the hum was coming from the power supply and nowhere else. If there would have been another problem, for example hum coming from an input, the hum would still be there.
@radio-ged4626
@radio-ged4626 3 ай бұрын
Re-stringing dial cord is the bane of every radio repairer's life, 45 mins is a good time for a first attempt.
@mogensranneries7517
@mogensranneries7517 3 ай бұрын
Yes, but as an apprentice in radio electronics in the 70'ties, I did a lot of dial cords. If I made it wrong as Vince did (the dial moved to the left, when turning the wheel clockwise) the master of the workshop would cut the dial string and say "Wroooong - do it again"...
@andrewclarke6030
@andrewclarke6030 3 ай бұрын
I am almost certain the corrosion on the fuse folder was caused by electrolyte leaking from the capacitor directly above it. That cap looked very compromised. I'd at least be replacing that cap too!
@michaelhiggins7365
@michaelhiggins7365 Ай бұрын
Oh ! That outro music was amazing ! So glad all in all it was an easy fix. Has wonderful rich sound too !
@daves_channel1491
@daves_channel1491 3 ай бұрын
RIP Steve Wright, for me and my age it was Steve Wright in the afternoon and his Mr Angry and all the other characters, if anyone remembers. Vince, you played the Sleepaway Camp - The Trick, and you last played it from my memory during lockdown, hits me every time, no one ever called me, unless they wanted something and I am fine with that, sad but fine. The royalty-free song hits a nerve about childhood and then adulthood reality. We all live in a version of our own world vision. You do great fantastic inspiring videos and fixes, make them as long as you like, and I will always watch them. Thank you. I know everyone is saying Morse code and I agree, but now I am thinking about what frequency, if it is possible to hear, can you hear encrypted comms and if you can hear it long enough then you would be able to decrypt it if you can guess or find the key. back in the day, not so much now I am guessing. Cannot wait until the next one cheers!
@hunchanchoc8418
@hunchanchoc8418 3 ай бұрын
"I tell you what boy!" I remember :-)) I also remember our house having the Beomaster 1000, which was the same but with no speakers - a tuner-amp.
@stevenc5227
@stevenc5227 3 ай бұрын
Yes i remember, i was working in a garage in the 80s listened to Steve Wright, Mr angry was my favourite character.
@cattflap1447
@cattflap1447 3 ай бұрын
Thought I was watching Mr Carlson's Lab for a minute
@unsaltedskies
@unsaltedskies 3 ай бұрын
Having watched Mr Carlson I wonder what he would think of the lack of a variac power supply....
@sprint955st
@sprint955st 3 ай бұрын
This is a bit modern for him.
@Perthshire
@Perthshire 3 ай бұрын
Or the rather excellent “mend it mark”
@QuadMochaMatti
@QuadMochaMatti 3 ай бұрын
"Mr. Carlson" is dreadfully overrated, pretentious, dry, and boring.
@Marineio
@Marineio 3 ай бұрын
@@QuadMochaMatti then don't watch? If your career/speciality revolved around old radios and just radios in general, I'm sure you'd seem boring to most people too! :D
@BuyitFixit
@BuyitFixit 3 ай бұрын
Nice Job Vince 👍 I was thinking it sounded like mains hum. To keep the insides looking authentic you could have always soldered the replacement cap inside of the old one seeing as you removed all of the insides of it 🙂 And it was fantastic that it had the schematics in it! Very rare to get a schematic of anything these days 😢Great job as always.
@Mymatevince
@Mymatevince 3 ай бұрын
Thank you Mick, great idea on the cap inside the cap. I wish I had done that. Next time 👍👍👍
@andrewcollins867
@andrewcollins867 3 ай бұрын
Ive enjoyed this over 2 nights ..lovely machine ..
@krahwinkel9503
@krahwinkel9503 3 ай бұрын
The fancy sound on short wave was an amateur radio contest in morse code. As the bandwidth of the radio is wider than one of an amateur radio receiver you hear many signals in parallel.
@sharp1979as
@sharp1979as 3 ай бұрын
I'd like to say I understand this comment 😅🤣
@niino4329
@niino4329 3 ай бұрын
The hum is likely a bad rectifier filter cap, which passes some 100 hz from the rectifier. Also, be careful with that mineral wool; if it was made before the late 80s/early 90s, it will VERY likely contain asbestos and not just make you itchy. The corrosion on the fuse holder is very likely galvanic corrosion which happens over time between some combinations of different metals. Pretty common to see this on fuse holders of vintage electronics.
@turji
@turji 3 ай бұрын
Then i shuld be dead, no need to worry
@kotogray8335
@kotogray8335 3 ай бұрын
It actually sounds a lot better than I thought it would. B&O for you, I guess. Even 60 years old. Thanks for the video, mate!
@dirkk792
@dirkk792 3 ай бұрын
HI Vince... Nice job...but you have made a mistake .....The FM wire is wrong..if you turn the fm tuning knob to the right ..the needle also has go to the right ..turln left ...needle goes left. To fix this you have to loosen the wire again and wind this cable on the other side of the tuningknob ( reverse the way in/out at this knob ) Then... all the blue electrolytic capacitors are all rotten..change these and the sound and sencitivity will be much better. Greetings.. Dirk from Belgium
@einfelder8262
@einfelder8262 3 ай бұрын
I would be replacing every capacitor for sure, but for someone who doesn't listen to radio much it would be a waste of money and degrade the originality of the vintage piece. The better option might be to solder in a bluetooth module, because the amplifier stage sounded pretty clean with the line input.
@poppydogz
@poppydogz 3 ай бұрын
RIP Steve Wright, Radio wont be the same...
@megatronskneecap
@megatronskneecap 3 ай бұрын
That really is a stunner and I love the old plug! Real solid wood and amazing speakers! Great fix mate!
@philcollins7701
@philcollins7701 3 ай бұрын
No not real wood, laminate covered chipboard just like the kitchen worksurfaces of the era.
@patpopov
@patpopov 2 ай бұрын
I had to find an hour in my busy schedule 😆to watch this but I'm glad I did. It's a beauty!
@terrygee210
@terrygee210 3 ай бұрын
Hi Vince. Another satisfying fix! I'm not sure about that 199HZ reading. It sounded like classic 100HZ hum, which would be expected with a bridge rectifier supply with duff smoothing.
@-leya-
@-leya- 3 ай бұрын
When he showed it in the spectroid app you could see that there was also a 100hz hum!
@pikeyandclaire
@pikeyandclaire 3 ай бұрын
Also, my dad was a Fire Officer, and in the 70’s-90’s you could get the Fire Service in LW, and listen in for his voice. After the telephone went off and he left the house to respond. Great memories.
@stevenmoomey2115
@stevenmoomey2115 3 ай бұрын
I have a 70’s Clock Radio, that had a back up Battery for the Clock and Audible Alarm. In the Early 90’s the Battery gave up. I took it apart, found a Double A Battery Soldered in. UnSoldered it Soldered some thin wires on those points and ran them under the Radio. Purchased a Single Battery Holder, there was just enough room to mount it underneath. Still working to this day, Battery Recharges off the Radios Circuit. About every 10 to 15 years, I easily replace the rechargeable Battery.
@beitie
@beitie 2 ай бұрын
I think you have the volume and tuning knob swapped. Super fun video, and great project.
@doslover
@doslover 3 ай бұрын
I wouldn't expect it to sound great with those speakers but I absolutely love the look of it!
@petepnut
@petepnut 3 ай бұрын
Even in the 80's we would say "Blue Electrolytic? Replace it!" Philip's Caps (blue) were reknowned for failure after even a couple of years. Oh - don't forget to zero your ESR Meter before using it!
@rogierius
@rogierius Ай бұрын
Can a decent multimeter do what an ESR does?
@UK_Lemons
@UK_Lemons 3 ай бұрын
200hz hum is because of the harmonic frequencies of 100hz. A rectified 50hz creates 100hz waveform before the large smoothing cap, which acts like a reservoir and smooths it to flat, clean dc voltage. Edit... The ten or so wires going to the negative of the capacitor are the grounds for the various different circuits within the unit. This is known as "Single Point Grounding" and is preferable to having many ground points either to a chassis or on the circuit board as it eliminates variation in potential between the grounds.
@Fifury161
@Fifury161 3 ай бұрын
I'm watching a radio repair and it was just announced Steve Wright has passed away at 69.
@rc6133
@rc6133 3 ай бұрын
I think the warbling noise is RTTY (radio teletype). My college project way back was to build some hardware to work with the BBC B computer and write a program to decode it. It was a long time ago and I think there were some other similar sounding signal, but I think it’s RTTY.
@philipscarisbrick1585
@philipscarisbrick1585 3 ай бұрын
Hi I haven't looked far on the comments..Just wanted to let you know that The BIG Capacitor that you dismantled Was full of Cfc So be careful Pal Bin them at the local Recycling centre...Nasty stuff that even when dry 😢
@fosterb247
@fosterb247 3 ай бұрын
Super fix Vince - It was another B&O fix from way back that found me your channel. Vintage B&O is a real challenge and I don't have your level of 'Fix' skill for these. An old thing of beauty is working again - Thanks Vince 🤓
@fs_dave
@fs_dave 3 ай бұрын
Finally, a capacitor that won't ping off when you try to measure it. LOL
@Mymatevince
@Mymatevince 3 ай бұрын
😂 Hahaha, that one could knock out someone if it ever did ping
@NeathVideos
@NeathVideos 3 ай бұрын
I think stamped in to the card in the radio was the manufacture date of 1962? Also you should tune in a known FM station frequency, and if it is off, then you can slide the dial pointer on the cord to the correct spot… awesome repair anyway
@JamesMears76
@JamesMears76 3 ай бұрын
Its a beautiful radio, very nice indeed
@michaelmadsen4741
@michaelmadsen4741 3 ай бұрын
That radio brings me back to the beginning of the seventies. My first radio. Living in Denmark I of course had a B&O. There were 3 types. The was one you have. There was one with only one speaker and without any. As the radio had no stereo when reiceiving radio signal you could by this as an extra option. I modified it with a knob in the front so I could change the balance. The terminals for the speakers at the back was made so you could have have the internal speakers on or of by rotating the knob 180 degreese.
@mikkels5724
@mikkels5724 3 ай бұрын
The one in the video does receive FM stereo. The stereo decoder was sold as an upgrade in Denmark, as FM stereo wasn't around in Denmark when the radio was new.
@Torbjorn.Lindgren
@Torbjorn.Lindgren 3 ай бұрын
No, the 478uF reading on the smaller 400uF capacitor doesn't suggest it's OK, it suggests it probably LEAKING which results in the multimeter giving a too high (wrong!) capacitance reading! Basically, the multimeter calculate the capacitance based on how much power it needs to send into the capacitor to reach a set voltage, if the capacitor leaks it needs to provide more power, juas AS IF the capacitor had a higher capacitance. So it's just as much warning flag as a high ESR is. Unfortunately most instruments doesn't detect this even though it would be trivial to check for (does the voltage go away quickly once it stops charging? - if yes something is leaking and the capacitance measurement is bogus and if it's out of circuit the capacitor is the leaking/broken part).
@LeicaM11
@LeicaM11 3 ай бұрын
Back in those days, you got offered music boxes with Stereo sound. Today you only get offered expensive Mono boxes miss Stereo sound. But if you pay double the money, you may get Stereo sound from the 1950s😂😂
@MrAsBBB
@MrAsBBB 3 ай бұрын
Heay Vince, love your channel. How does anyone learn without trying stuff. Our civilisation would never have progressed without someone like you trying something out. Plenty of people in history have started on something without having done something before. I think you say it as it is. Please don’t try this but I have spent my life until my now 55 years trying everything. As long as you are sensible and take the appropriate precautions then give it a go. I fixed last weekend a blocked overflow, dodgy dishwasher door, blocked kitchen sink and a leak in the downstairs toilet. Next week is up a ladder cutting down ivy that;s been up for 50 years… All the best AB…
@joistein
@joistein 2 ай бұрын
I had a B&O TV in 1980 and it was awesome....
@LOrealHardly
@LOrealHardly 3 ай бұрын
Watching Vince's excellent work after hearing about the untimely passing of Steve Wright is all a bit surreal..!
@LoftechUK
@LoftechUK 3 ай бұрын
Amazing repair and like the model. Would have this in my lounge for everyday use. I use a radio everyday. Very surprised that it didn’t have a backlight too. Thank you
@Mymatevince
@Mymatevince 3 ай бұрын
I thought it wasn't backlit even though I seen the lamps. However when I turned the lights off I could see the backlight then. If you skip to the end of the vid I show a little clip of it at night 👍👍👍Looks nice
@Remi_Jansen
@Remi_Jansen 3 ай бұрын
You found aliens @1:07:20 lolol , i have grundig tube radio from 1959 that still works, loved the video!
@bigreddaddy06
@bigreddaddy06 3 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same, lol. Sounds like the sound from Independence Day.
@simduino
@simduino 3 ай бұрын
My father had one of these back in the 60's-70's. at 11:55 you're wondering about the speakers, they are made by sinus. at 32:50 you're wondering about the pointy round things, they are tuning capacitors. Turning them changes their capacitance because internally they are made up of concentric non-touching ring to form an air capacitor. Turning them makes these rings go further inwards or outwards thus changing the overall surface with air between them and so changing the capacitance.
@djmips
@djmips 3 ай бұрын
Svenska Högtalarefabriker (Sinus). You can see the S are modeled after sine waves.
@klorslug
@klorslug 3 ай бұрын
Great job Vince! I love restoring vintage audio. Seeing these old beauties come back to life is so satisfying
@olias2k979
@olias2k979 3 ай бұрын
I repaired one of those dial movements with a piece of fishing braid. The oxidisation inside is more than likely because it was used in a Kitchen with steamy atmosphere.
@robindis6274
@robindis6274 3 ай бұрын
i love these longer videos.
@1969longshanks
@1969longshanks 15 күн бұрын
I bought one of these off ebay from a local seller and paid £53.50 as not working. No one had been inside and a quick spray of contact cleaner here and there and now it works fine. I guess i got lucky, very lucky
@brainwave6236
@brainwave6236 3 ай бұрын
Greetings Vince. I look forward to your clips in which you eliminate possible malfunctions with ease and knowledge, and what separates you from other masters is that you give advice and show how you personally work. Just continue with your work and all the best to you and your family in this year 2024. A lot Greetings from Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovina
@Mymatevince
@Mymatevince 3 ай бұрын
Thank you. All the best to you and your family too👍
@duncan-rmi
@duncan-rmi 3 ай бұрын
B&O were way ahead of the curve when it came to 'right to repair' & their obligations. when I was a kid we had a beolit 800 kitchen radio; both sides just unclipped & one had a pocket with the schematics in it. sadly, a beolit 600 I got more recently (from ebay for sentimental reasons) has the schematics missing. good job, then, that it still works flawlessly!
@Lprieto33
@Lprieto33 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for showing it light up in the dark. A beaut!
@v1970lima
@v1970lima 3 ай бұрын
Cool, he's showing the whole truth! No edition, he discovers and show. I love it!
@reneegudjon3204
@reneegudjon3204 3 ай бұрын
Remember those knobs and pushbuttons in the stereo cabinet. It also contained a record player and tv. What a great piece of danish engineering 😊
@hadesmcc
@hadesmcc 3 ай бұрын
That was a lovely fix! Beautiful piece of vintage electronics.
@ladronsiman1471
@ladronsiman1471 3 ай бұрын
As a die hard B&O collector .. i enjoy discovering another treasure.How beautifully built this design is.If i was you .I would have change any capacitor visible .This device is 6 years old ..The weir tone you heard Arthurito ,.is called AMTOR code ..is a old way to send text over short way .. Had you had an AMTOR or other decoder you can read what is transmitted ,Is a SMS basically
@charlesdeens8927
@charlesdeens8927 3 ай бұрын
Such a fantastic video. For a video that was over an hour long, it felt like it was ten minutes. Watching you approach a fix always brings a lot of excitement.
@TheSkaldenmettrunk
@TheSkaldenmettrunk 2 ай бұрын
What a well made radio and a great fix.
@allen5976
@allen5976 3 ай бұрын
I would definitely get the cabinet remade and you'd have a beautiful piece of kit.
@brucecorbettn9bh398
@brucecorbettn9bh398 3 ай бұрын
Now that you got that far, some people put the new capacitor inside the old capacitor case to keep it looking original.
@alext8828
@alext8828 3 ай бұрын
"Mitropa" was a historical company that operated dining and sleeping car services on trains in Central Europe. The name "Mitropa" is an abbreviation of "Mitteleuropäische Schlafwagengesellschaft," which translates to "Central European Sleeping Car Company" in English. Founded in 1916, Mitropa was originally a joint venture between various national railway companies in Germany, Austria, and Hungary. It provided high-quality dining and sleeping accommodations for passengers traveling on long-distance trains throughout Central Europe. Mitropa became well-known for its elegant dining cars, which offered fine cuisine and attentive service to passengers. It also operated sleeping cars with comfortable berths for overnight travel. The company continued to operate throughout much of the 20th century, but it declined in the latter half of the century due to changes in travel habits and the decline of rail travel in favor of other modes of transportation. Mitropa ceased operations in the 1990s. Today, "Mitropa" is primarily remembered as a symbol of the golden age of rail travel in Central Europe and is sometimes referenced in literature, film, and popular culture.
@catto24
@catto24 3 ай бұрын
you know what else is a beauty? you, Vince! love you and your content bro, been watching you for AGES!
@Zoli1972s
@Zoli1972s 3 ай бұрын
Maybe next time you clould try to get an old Hungarian VIDEOTON unit from that era, and try to fix that. This were quite similar in quality comprared to B&O back in the day. Unfortunately, nowadays VIDEOTON doesn't exist as a HiFi manufacturer anymore. However, this video brought back childhood memories from the 80s, when I was messing around with my parent's VIDEOTON radio back in the day.
@joseph_donovan
@joseph_donovan 3 ай бұрын
It looks absolutely beautiful. What a treasure! What a delightful find! That envelope and the no hum made my ear lobes tingle with delight! Amazing! Loved it! Thank you for sharing!
@MyComradeJimmy
@MyComradeJimmy 3 ай бұрын
Amazing peace and wonderful work Vince. I really enjoyed this one. I watched every second.
@rolyb197
@rolyb197 3 ай бұрын
Vince, have a look at using steam to repair "bruises" (dents) in wood. I have had quite a bit of success using a wet tea towel and a dry iron (not using iron steam). I don't think it'll fix the corner but may tidy up the mark on the front. Take your gentle little hammer 🙂 to a piece of scrap to try it out.
@JOHN-wy2iv
@JOHN-wy2iv 3 ай бұрын
The quiet spots where the tuning meter went up would be transmitters just reserving the frequency without transmitting any sound. Helps stop other stations from using those frequencies. The weird sound was a data transmission. It used to be common with news agencies such as Reuters for transmitting news reports. In the 1980's, I built a decoder which I connected to a BBC micro home computer and could read the news before it got to the papers.
@Mymatevince
@Mymatevince 3 ай бұрын
That's amazing!!! That would have been great to show off to your friends at the time 👍👍
@JoeDCollins
@JoeDCollins 2 ай бұрын
If the stations are not transmitting then how does the radio know something is there?
@willproctor7301
@willproctor7301 3 ай бұрын
Great fix mate, and the videos can never be too long. That brown/tan shoe polish you get in squeesy bottles with a sponge covers up bright spots and damage really well btw.
@vforvendetta7763
@vforvendetta7763 3 ай бұрын
Nice work Vince it looks lovely, it’s great how you can make everything you fix interesting to watch. Keep up the good videos and wish you all the best!
@Mymatevince
@Mymatevince 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much 😎
@TheMatthooks
@TheMatthooks 3 ай бұрын
200hz is the second harmonic of 50hz. Also as others have said, remember that the bridge rectifier effectively turns a 50hz sin wave and yields 100hz. 200hz is obviously the first harmonic of 100hz. The capacitors would normally smooth this out, so it does suggest there are one or more cap failures.
@TheMatthooks
@TheMatthooks 3 ай бұрын
Others have made very good points about the capabilities of speakers and microphones to pick up very low frequencies. It's also possible the resonant frequency of the speakers themselves is close to 200hz, causing the 200hz peak to appear higher than it is in reality. Connecting the speaker output to an oscilloscope would probably have shown 100hz to be the dominant frequency.
@marjon1703
@marjon1703 3 ай бұрын
I'm not sure why the App was showing 200hz as I regard it as 100Hz (there is a youtube vid of '200Hz' to compare the noise with). The 100hz is caused by the 50hz mains sine wave being rectified into two half wave DC before the capacitor smooths it level (ish). Great restoration project, really enjoyed watching it .😊
@shaunhw
@shaunhw 3 ай бұрын
It was possibly because the speaker which was connected to the unit couldn't resolve 100 hz, very well so the acoustically coupled device was picking up the second harmonic from the speakers at 200hz. Speaker devices will often frequency double in this way when they cannot reproduce the fundamental tone. Of course the bridge rectifier having inverted each alternate half cycle of the 50 hz incoming sine wave, with no working smoothing/reservior capacitor will also create a more composite (none sinusoidal) signal therefore having higher frequency harmonics, including the second (200hz) harmonic which would also be directly audible through the speaker due to its real presence. I would also expect to see a 100hz component on a scope etc., directly connected to the speaker output(s) on the receiver as well though.
@mikepanchaud1
@mikepanchaud1 3 ай бұрын
@@shaunhw yep agreed. On the spectral display on the bottom of the phone there was also a clear line at 100 hertz.
@Peter-nf3wp
@Peter-nf3wp 2 ай бұрын
you can put the speaker connector in both way means that you can revese the polariy, if speakers are not connected the same polarity in connector, if you connect speaker signal opposit the other specailly you will hear it on the base that it cuts out, so turn the connector is simpler than rewire to switch polarity on 1 side.
@fernandodesouzadantas9565
@fernandodesouzadantas9565 3 ай бұрын
Vince, I've been watching your vídeos and also learning a lot. Don't want to be a spoiler but the string for the FM was placed conter clockwise. That's why the tunning direction is no the same as the others. Warm regards from Brazil ( 40c - 105f)
@Mymatevince
@Mymatevince 3 ай бұрын
Thank you. I'm gutted I got that wrong. I will restring it and make it work the correct way next week some time. Cheers for letting me know. Enjoy the sunshine 🌞
@rebeccagarnett4166
@rebeccagarnett4166 3 ай бұрын
Perfect excuse for a revisit video. 😁 Changing the string and fitting the new caps in the original cases.
@brutlern
@brutlern 3 ай бұрын
It's been a while since some good ol' Bangs and Olufsens have on the channel. Looking forward to it.
@Mymatevince
@Mymatevince 3 ай бұрын
It has...BUT I'm working on another B&O beauty right now, hopefully it will be released in a week.
@brutlern
@brutlern 3 ай бұрын
@@Mymatevince More B&Os? Send in the B&Os.
@sakaspuds
@sakaspuds 3 ай бұрын
if i remember correctly its from the 90s? a beocenter @@brutlern
@darksill
@darksill 3 ай бұрын
dont know that much about whats sorts of radio gear is used in your area but that sound @1:07:20 is some sort of digital mode transmission. think like modern emergency services police etc. if you catch those signals on analogue reciver it will do something like this since it treats it as a normal sound singnal not as the correct digital mode it is and even if it could its very likely encrapted.
@richiet3841
@richiet3841 3 ай бұрын
The winner of the Golden Screwdriver Award goes to....
@catto24
@catto24 3 ай бұрын
"right, now that should go back in." proceeds to bash it with his fist and a "hammer"
@Sellebjerg
@Sellebjerg 3 ай бұрын
The "EKS" stands for "ekstra" - danish for extra. It´s just an unswitched clone of the left speaker channel and was intended for an extra speaker in i.e. the kitchen.
@areuserius328
@areuserius328 Ай бұрын
thats very nice...compared to modern audio equipments that breakdown in 6 months... these things are really built to last...nice one vince..
@TheStylesadam
@TheStylesadam 3 ай бұрын
Great video Vince. Loved every minute.
@linuxares
@linuxares 3 ай бұрын
amazing work vince! Also it's crazy how much technology can move in 60 years
@oortcloud210
@oortcloud210 3 ай бұрын
Great to see it all working again, it's a lovely thing. If I had space for it and the missus wouldn't get cross, I'd have that!
@jeremiahchamberlin4499
@jeremiahchamberlin4499 3 ай бұрын
I enjoyed your glee at finding it working.
@dazzapeacelove1651
@dazzapeacelove1651 3 ай бұрын
Brilliant I love seeing old things brought back to life ❤
@skeelo69
@skeelo69 3 ай бұрын
My previous comment was unfair sorry..I deleted it.Well done Vince...good job....the radio looks good on the cabinet you placed it on.
@user-zw1wj5kp1o
@user-zw1wj5kp1o 3 ай бұрын
1. The reversible speaker connectors contains a switch that can disconnect the built in speakers. If the round pin of the speaker plug is in the small hole, the external speakers are connected in parallel to the built in ones. If the round pin is in the larger hole, the built in speakers are disconnected. 2. You can replace the scale pointer cord with Fly Fishing Line. 3. You can easily make a simple dipole antenna for better FM reception. Look up "FM dipole antenna" for hints how to make one.
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