Stupid Government Rules Create a Pilot Shortage

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John Stossel

John Stossel

Күн бұрын

Plan to fly this summer? Good luck. Delays and cancellations have spiked because government regulations make it so hard to become a pilot.
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After a plane crash in 2009, Congress demanded that all pilots get much more flight time before they could be hired.
The new rule raised the number of hours required from 250 to 1,500 - a sixfold increase.
“That’s a huge jump,” pilot Tracy Price tells me. “It had the effect… of pulling up the ladder.”
Suddenly, fewer people wanted to be pilots.
Not many people have the time or money to get 1,500 hours in the air before they can even apply.
That’s what’s given us today’s pilot shortage, and tomorrow’s flight cancellations.
I’ll show you why the pilot union is celebrating the shortage, and how government's “safety” rules makes us less safe.

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@HenryTCoxwell
@HenryTCoxwell Жыл бұрын
"If it's not broken, fix it until it is." - Government motto
@pete3579
@pete3579 Жыл бұрын
And then use millions of dollars of tax money to fix it
@joe-zj8js
@joe-zj8js Жыл бұрын
we use that saying in the military too.
@reichelitis6468
@reichelitis6468 Жыл бұрын
@@pete3579 There is no tax money. It's all printed.
@pete3579
@pete3579 Жыл бұрын
@@reichelitis6468 so the money that they take from me just goes into the void? Nice
@explorenaked
@explorenaked 16 күн бұрын
To me this is just a little "insider trading" from the environmentalists. They don't want anything that uses so-called fossil fuels period. As of right now, planes can't fly without pilots. Less pilots, less flights. It's playing right into their hands.
@cargopilotguy305
@cargopilotguy305 Жыл бұрын
As a Cargo Pilot i cannot stress enough how dumb so many rules around aviation are. THANK YOU
@mgtowdadYouTubeSucksCoxks
@mgtowdadYouTubeSucksCoxks Жыл бұрын
What do you know? You're just a pilot, a person who flies airplanes. Politicians are intellectual, they have degrees, and people vote for them. So obviously they know more than you do! Sincerely, Dunn Krueger Jr
@cargopilotguy305
@cargopilotguy305 Жыл бұрын
@@mgtowdadKZbinSucksCoxks we can’t even get them to make the FAR/AIM books electronic. Those books have small (but sometimes significant) changes **every year** and they still make you buy two physical copies. And the books are huge lol. And we have to take them with us everywhere we go.
@Someone-ft5lw
@Someone-ft5lw Жыл бұрын
@@mgtowdadKZbinSucksCoxks *Intellectual* Sure,Crooks arent Intellectual. The problem is the people, we have Stupid influencers speaking to sheeps, propagandists indoctrinating kids. Understanding politics, deception, morality is becoming rare these days.
@mgtowdadYouTubeSucksCoxks
@mgtowdadYouTubeSucksCoxks Жыл бұрын
@@cargopilotguy305 but at least you have Union protection! Haha. And on a serious note, thank you for what you do!
@paradoxzero1984
@paradoxzero1984 Жыл бұрын
Would you recommend being a cargo or commercial pilot out of curiosity?
@Kevin-ol5gr
@Kevin-ol5gr Жыл бұрын
I think we need to pass legislation requiring 600000 hours of training to be a legislature. Should fix a lot of problems
@arthurbrumagem3844
@arthurbrumagem3844 Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Biden had that many hours as a senator in training to become president. We see how well that worked 😂😂
@twally87
@twally87 Жыл бұрын
@@arthurbrumagem3844 lol, further proves the point. Hours spent doing something poorly doesn't mean you're getting any better at it!
@arthurbrumagem3844
@arthurbrumagem3844 Жыл бұрын
@@twally87 he could teach that class.
@windrider65
@windrider65 Жыл бұрын
They need to make a rule or regulation that politicians have to have 150 years of experience in any field they want to regulate
@sailboatbob3969
@sailboatbob3969 Жыл бұрын
As a former airline pilot. it is NEVER one thing that causes a crash. it is a chain of events. You have to stay ahead of the aircraft, if you fall behind, things could snowball and before you know it you're in big trouble.
@daeganpatterson9630
@daeganpatterson9630 Жыл бұрын
Yes! Thats what my instuctor just talk to me about
@Saqux
@Saqux Жыл бұрын
im planning on becoming airline pilot, thankfully im not in US so i dont need to have that many hours.
@sweydert
@sweydert Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of a crash investigation in South America where a last minute change to landing instructions (which would have seemed to make things easier) triggered a confusing sequence of events that ended in tragedy. The primary and costly lesson learned was, "Never point a plane in a direction your brain hasn't been five minutes earlier."
@anjijack5392
@anjijack5392 Жыл бұрын
Well said! It's like a strategic game of chess! Gotta be 10 steps ahead.
@benjaminshropshire2900
@benjaminshropshire2900 Жыл бұрын
The way I like to put it is: It's very rare for a single mistake to kill anyone, (but sometimes the first mistake is choosing to get into a situation where any more mistakes, by you or someone else, will kill you).
@ChristopherRyans
@ChristopherRyans Жыл бұрын
Where would this country be at without independent journalists like John Stossel? Freedom of speech is amazing
@ArturHedlund
@ArturHedlund Жыл бұрын
Is ryan your last name?
@suspicionofdeceit
@suspicionofdeceit Жыл бұрын
Artur hedlund No, it’s his first name.
@ArturHedlund
@ArturHedlund Жыл бұрын
@@suspicionofdeceit so is a christopher his last name?
@turdledive927
@turdledive927 Жыл бұрын
You racist, how dare you use free speech
@korinogaro
@korinogaro Жыл бұрын
In the same place it is now. People don't listen to the truth.
@mneltner
@mneltner Жыл бұрын
I have always loved John Stossel and was excited to finally see him talk about a topic I’m actually knowledgeable about. As a Commercial Pilot (and as an Airline Transport Pilot, as most of us are now called after the regulations resulting from the Buffalo accident), I can confirm that this is great investigative reporting. The regs written post 2009 did absolutely nothing to enhance my safety as a pilot - they just massively increased the cost of my training, made becoming a pilot nearly impossible for poor people or people with families, and largely increased the cost of airline tickets
@alexbrutlag6022
@alexbrutlag6022 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the data since Colgan crash disagrees with you
@alexk48
@alexk48 Жыл бұрын
@@alexbrutlag6022 So what do these data say?
@bocefusmurica4340
@bocefusmurica4340 Жыл бұрын
Idiot there were THREE CRASHES IN ONE YEAR! He couldn’t even get that first detail correct.
@loke5713
@loke5713 Жыл бұрын
@@alexbrutlag6022 since the pilots had well over minimum hours your point is moot.
@mneltner
@mneltner Жыл бұрын
@@alexbrutlag6022 What data are you referring to? If you’re referring to the decrease in fatal accidents, you’ll need to explain how a 1,500 hour requirement for pilots who had ~2,500 and ~3,500 hours respectively would have prevented the crash. Also, I’m curious to know what you found so valuable about your ATP-CTP course? In mine (which cost the airline roughly $5,000), I flew in 4 different jet simulators and none of them were even the make or model of the jet I was flying haha
@yodaflyz
@yodaflyz Жыл бұрын
Car crashes daily: It's sucks but it's kind of normal. Plane crashes once: OMG we need more regulations.
@adoe2305
@adoe2305 Жыл бұрын
Just you wait until the government creates regulation we can't drive our own car.
@andrewa5077
@andrewa5077 Жыл бұрын
Correct, more regulations were needed. Most every if not all aviation regulations are written in blood. In regards to the 1500 hour rule and Colgan Airlines. Everyone stating that they both had over 1500 hours and it was a training issue, not the 1500 hour rule that caused the crash… Let me enlighten anyone who wasn’t in the industry at the time. Due to every regional hiring pilots with as little as 300 hours, pay was rock bottom. The First Officer was making less than 18,000 per year and couldn’t afford as much as a crash pad. She was commuting from Seattle to EWR. In Seattle, she was living with her parents and working part time as a waitress to make ends meet. Both pilots slept in the crew room (as was quite common during those times). One pilot even went undercover to show how bad it was with people sleeping in crew rooms and the 18 people to a room crash pads. So, the 1500 hour rule is absolutely a safety issue. If airlines can do what they did in the past, you’ll see them all gut their contracts within months. I literally qualified for food stamps and Medicaid in 2009. I was living in a basement room in Ozone Park, Queens NY. Be careful what you wish for. Here is a link to the undercover video of what life was like during the time wages were so low, you couldn’t afford even a crash pad:
@jfangm
@jfangm Жыл бұрын
@@andrewa5077 Oh wow. That sounds so awful. Oh wait, no it doesn't. People only deserve the wage their employer agrees to pay them. Crashes have almost nothing to do with flight time and absolutely nothing to do with wages. Tell me you're an uneducated union shill without telling me you're an uneducated union shill.
@LucasFernandez-fk8se
@LucasFernandez-fk8se Жыл бұрын
Car crashes aren’t bad though. We’ve regulated them to hell and back to make cars safe with 15 airbags and crumple zones so now your SUV getting into a freeway collision doing 60 is now something survivable, and also car crashes had a high survival rate anyway. A car crash could be someone backing into you at a K-Mart parking lot or it could be a rollover at 90mph. They vary in deadliness. Plane crashes are way more deadly and involve people falling out of the sky plummeting to their deaths with no chance of maneuvering themselves out of harms way. Remember 90% of drivers are “above average” but the majority of plane users are passengers who can’t control the plane
@D4PPZ456
@D4PPZ456 Жыл бұрын
The difference is that state policy created the propensity for car crashes. Without state funding, cities and towns would all be built to accommodate biking and walking, as they couldn't maintain sprawling road infrastructure long-term (or even build them in the short- term). They subsidized cars, zoned to require them, and then tried to blame everything but themselves for the amount of people killed by them every year.
@marshall2.015
@marshall2.015 Жыл бұрын
Didn't a lot of pilots get fired because they wouldn't take the jab? I'm sure that didn't help the situation.
@howesfull8
@howesfull8 Жыл бұрын
No. Actually a lot of us retired early (5 years early for me) because the Coof was crushing the airline industry starting in Feb/Mar 2020. Because of union rules we were being paid a minimum (while not flying) and it was costing the company a lot of money. Not long after losing 2000 pilots, my airline was wishing we hadn't retired.
@garrysmith1029
@garrysmith1029 Жыл бұрын
Yup
@TGuard00014
@TGuard00014 Жыл бұрын
A number of military pilots were grounded due to myocarditis to my knowledge they haven’t released any records for private airlines but I’m sure it has had an effect.
@galaxiax3284
@galaxiax3284 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely!!!!!!! Thousands were fired or quit ...
@dagoogler01
@dagoogler01 Жыл бұрын
and aren't some airlines like United pledging to replace 50% of their workforce with non-white males or females?
@ZENMASTERME1
@ZENMASTERME1 Жыл бұрын
“Government is not a solution to our problem, government is the problem. ... Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. If it stops moving, subsidize it. ... The problem is not that people are taxed too little, the problem is that government spends too much.” ~ Ronald Regan
@jimlovesgina
@jimlovesgina Жыл бұрын
Reagen said some great things... and then he did exactly the opposite.
@ravenone6255
@ravenone6255 Жыл бұрын
Who is in charge 🤔 👉LET'S GO BRANDON!!!
@jackson5116
@jackson5116 Жыл бұрын
@@jimlovesgina problem is he has to work through Congress, there isn't one party controlling everything, the House and Senate can change or kill President's plans of action.
@artcurious807
@artcurious807 Жыл бұрын
and what happened to that Reagan Revolution ? when did WashingtonDC become the enemy of the people ?
@combativeThinker
@combativeThinker Жыл бұрын
@@jackson5116 Unless you’re a Democrat. Then they bend over backward for you and turn a blind eye to you appropriating their power.
@WS-hf3yr
@WS-hf3yr Жыл бұрын
There are plenty of Pilots. Rules are only a small percentage of the problem. The "Airlines" are the real reason, there is a problem!
@cityraildude
@cityraildude Жыл бұрын
Exactly. The pilot shortage is global. If the problem was regulation, it would be limited to the USA, rather than globally
@cas343
@cas343 Жыл бұрын
Aviation rules are almost always international and U.S. centric.
@richardthomas32
@richardthomas32 Жыл бұрын
I was actively pursuing a career in aviation when this law went into effect. I had close to 100 hours built up at that time, buying an hour of flying a week. The first 250hrs were on me and each hour was EXPENSIVE. The goal is to hit 250 hours just to get an entry level flying job to keep flying without going broke and eventually building enough hours to climb the ladder. My eventual career goal was to fly a Medevac Helicopter and hopefully save lives. That requires very high time and turbine experience. What did this law do? Well I won't crashing any aircraft since I work on Mack trucks for a living......
@bbgun061
@bbgun061 Жыл бұрын
1500 hour rule doesn't apply to medevac operations.
@mysteryY2K
@mysteryY2K Жыл бұрын
@@bbgun061 it doesn't apply but most medevac jobs don't hire under 1200TT
@bbgun061
@bbgun061 Жыл бұрын
@@mysteryY2K I thought there would be some minimum, but primarily determined by the company and insurance. I taught for a year before getting into fixed wing medevac with about 1000 hrs.
@rovers141
@rovers141 Жыл бұрын
This doesn't make any sense...so why exactly did you give up? This law didn't affect helicopters, the career path has been the same for a very long time now. Most people still today get their CPL and CFI, then they instruct or do one of the many lower paying jobs out there for helicopter pilots until they're ready for the big boy stuff.
@CommanderTavos99
@CommanderTavos99 Жыл бұрын
I know what these politicians are up to: If we abondone flying completly, there will never be a flight accident ever again! All thanks to the safety measures of the gouverment! =)
@showmemo3686
@showmemo3686 Жыл бұрын
It's all part of the green movement. Buy electric planes.🤣
@californiacountry209
@californiacountry209 Жыл бұрын
They are following the orders of the elite. Alex Jones has been saying for years that the elites want to be the only ones able to fly
@dimwitsadvocate6264
@dimwitsadvocate6264 Жыл бұрын
@@showmemo3686 Electric planes! LOL! But don't say it out loud - don't give the government any ideas!
@peterresetz1960
@peterresetz1960 Жыл бұрын
@ HoundofJustice, That the same logic the anti 2A politicians think.
@mr.alkenly889
@mr.alkenly889 Жыл бұрын
Your right! And then only the famous and rich people would be able to fly, because of their private Jets, us peasants don't deserve to fly anyway
@heelerhealer7552
@heelerhealer7552 Жыл бұрын
It's the same as trucker shortages, here in Canada it can cost upwards of $10,000 to get your Class1 Drivers license, when it used to average $200-1500 at most.
@jimlovesgina
@jimlovesgina Жыл бұрын
Regulations hurt independent truckers. The DoT (state and federal) harass truckers into bankruptcy. My company started with one truck. The truck passed inspection only to be pulled over down the road and hammered with petty violations like the license plate being too high. It was hard to stay profitable. I gave up and sold the truck.
@heelerhealer7552
@heelerhealer7552 Жыл бұрын
@@jimlovesgina Totally. It cost me $70 for test and $70 for road-test when I did my class 3 for heavy towing when I got mine. DOT would play favorites with how they would financially r*pe drivers/companies with stupid fines. And most time provide little to no help with real-time safety. I would get road sided after picking up massive trucks in the worst spots and they would wait down the road from me. Not even park with lights flashing up the road, to let others know that there was a problem on a major highway.
@richardsantiago429
@richardsantiago429 Жыл бұрын
Some places paid for cdl license .
@TheCourseOfEmpire
@TheCourseOfEmpire Жыл бұрын
@Trump Won They do that in Canada, too.
@joeeliott8060
@joeeliott8060 Жыл бұрын
Cdn gov't has turned everything into an incompetent, unproductive, money wasting mess. I don't understand why americans look to cdn systems. Makes no sense.
@CarterHancock
@CarterHancock Жыл бұрын
I'm a commercial pilot trying to get my start in the airlines. I've just started watching these great videos from Stossel and love that he has covered this subject. One of my professors said he knew one of the people involved with created the law. She told him, in an apparently shameful tone, "We had to do something." People never want to admit that inaction is still a choice, and sometimes is the best course of action. We are the ONLY country in the world that requires so many hours to become a Part 121 airline pilot. As it stands today, a first officer from somewhere in, say, Europe, with 300 hours can legally fly across the pond to the US as an airline pilot, but a US pilot with 1499 hours cannot receive an ATP to fly an airliner. Yes, that is how stupid this is. There are ways to get a restricted ATP with fewer hours but they require loads more work too. Oh, and Stossel is absolutely right about the unions SUPPORTING these unnecessary and arbitrary new rules. They also don't want to support something like the multi-crew pilot license that ICAO created a few years ago which many countries have successfully adopted.
@marricktryathia3464
@marricktryathia3464 Жыл бұрын
I was learning to fly when this law went into effect. I choose to give up on my aviation career due to the extra cost. I was paying out of pocket working at a grocery store. This law added about $80,000.00 (at the time) to the cost of getting a job a regional airline. Which at that time payed only 25-30k a year for the first few year. I grew up around airplanes and thought that I would be an airline pilot almost no matter what. The cost to earn an entry level job at a regional carrier and the stagnation the industry was experiencing at the time crushed my dreams. I went another direction and now work on the IT side at a major telecom company. I like my job, but I still find myself wishing I where an airline pilot. Every time I see an airliner in the sky it makes me sad. But then I remember things could be a lot worse.
@jfangm
@jfangm Жыл бұрын
That's a pretty sad story. But I get it. Congress is legislating away people's dreams. But it's okay, because the people already in those jobs are making more money now.🙄
@user-vc2up9ys6v
@user-vc2up9ys6v Жыл бұрын
that sucks
@bretthines4257
@bretthines4257 11 ай бұрын
I’m right there with you. In 2008 I was laid off and said I’m going to go back to fly to get my commercial license. Then the in laws hit. Between that and still needing a degree at that time. The cost benefit was too high as I was already pushing 40. I threw in the towel and got my MBA. I would still rather fly, but it will be for myself now in a single engine then in a big jet.
@cargopilotguy305
@cargopilotguy305 Жыл бұрын
The hours requirement makes it cost prohibitive for any pilot not born wealthy. Flying 1500 hours is insanely costly
@elcheapo5302
@elcheapo5302 Жыл бұрын
Incorrect. Most pilots, myself included, earned our 1500 hours by flight instructing, flying banners, ferrying aircraft, etc. Anyone paying for that 1500 hours is doing it wrong. Generally, I'm a Stossel fan, but he got too much wrong in this video to even begin a conversation about all of it. Fun fact: there are exceptions to the 1500 hour rule, but John didn't mention that either.
@pimpinkin87
@pimpinkin87 Жыл бұрын
@@elcheapo5302 and what exactly are these exceptions he didn't mention?
@showmemo3686
@showmemo3686 Жыл бұрын
@@elcheapo5302 Yea. A little weak on the research this time. However, the problem does need to be addressed.
@cargopilotguy305
@cargopilotguy305 Жыл бұрын
@@elcheapo5302 I did the CFI thing but that and the other things you mentioned aren’t available to everyone, everywhere, and 1500 hours is arbitrary and overly burdensome.
@cargopilotguy305
@cargopilotguy305 Жыл бұрын
@@pimpinkin87 sometimes regionals will “hire” you pre 1500. You won’t be paid or fly before you get to 1500 but you still technically have a job. And most pilots I’ve known who’ve had this happen have been over 1000 hours already.
@BobBrittonBespoke
@BobBrittonBespoke Жыл бұрын
Every time there's something messed up, all we have to do is dig a little and we find that some stupid government regulation is the root cause of the problem. Let people LIVE without your stupid interference!
@rcyalater...2305
@rcyalater...2305 Жыл бұрын
Infuckindeed my man! But if we realize we didn't need all this regulation where would that leave our government? Oh yeah, vastly unnecessary. Shhhh...
@leeuniverse
@leeuniverse Жыл бұрын
More specifically, it's usually LEFTISTS who are behind it.... the "Regulation" comes later. Leftists should NEVER have power in society.... That's not to say those on the Right can't be stupid, or act like Leftists which is usually the case, but, it's far far less.
@andrewgreeb916
@andrewgreeb916 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's why US shipping sucks
@johnpatrick1588
@johnpatrick1588 Жыл бұрын
The most important thing if wanting to be an airline pilot next to being a safe pilot is to get an airline seniority number as soon as possible because your whole career is based on it. If you can skip 4 years of college and get your flight certificates and start building hours at smaller operations since many airlines are listing college is preferred but not required. If there is a pilot shortage school will not matter as much as experience. Even Delta has added itself to the list of college optional. The younger you are when hired the better. Plus you get a 4-year head start on earnings, and experience and are closer to being captain than others doing the college route. It is possible to be a captain at a regional when only 23 years old when the ATP is unrestricted. Then if at a regional with flow-through agreements with mainline carriers the better.
@TwinTalon01
@TwinTalon01 Жыл бұрын
I’m an A&P with IA, and you’re right on the money.
@WinginWolf
@WinginWolf Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t do ATP because I already had college debt (to get that bachelor’s degree you need for the majors) and wouldn’t get approved. I appraise delta for removing this requirement. 1500 hours is fine enough. Heck no degree and 500 is decent too…
@briant7265
@briant7265 Жыл бұрын
Love the coverage. Bottom line is, flight time does not equal training, and 1,500 hours is a full time job for 9 months. There are many ways to modify the regs that would greatly reduce training *time* while greatly improving pilot ability.
@MrRipper1956
@MrRipper1956 Жыл бұрын
Flying time is not the same as working time. The quickest I saw someone build 1500 hours was 2 years. Those hours are counted when the aircraft is actually moving, not when you clock in/ out.
@mirzaahmed6589
@mirzaahmed6589 Жыл бұрын
Pilots aren't allowed to fly more than 1,000 hours a year.
@brkbtjunkie
@brkbtjunkie Жыл бұрын
1500 hours? But what about the “carbon footprint” of 8x the hours? How does the government rectify those two things they seem to be so concerned about?
@shirw
@shirw Жыл бұрын
Very good point!
@clayton7825
@clayton7825 Жыл бұрын
If no one is qualified to fly the planes the carbon footprint goes to zero.
@brkbtjunkie
@brkbtjunkie Жыл бұрын
@@clayton7825 same with gas prices. Federal government is doing everything it can to keep the prices high.
@djm5687
@djm5687 Жыл бұрын
The goal is to _eventually_ make flying as rare as wearing fur. In other words, shameful or at the very least _something only the rich can afford._
@brkbtjunkie
@brkbtjunkie Жыл бұрын
@@djm5687 meanwhile the federal government wastes our tax dollars flying to and from places telling us not to fly to and from places.
@Kevin_747
@Kevin_747 Жыл бұрын
I did my 40 years in the cockpit. I remember being furloughed and reading about the pilot shortage while waiting for a recall in the 90's. Now its really true. I miss the flying but I'll never miss the politics. The majority of my career was flying cargo on international routes, best job in the world.
@commerce-usa
@commerce-usa Жыл бұрын
Guessing you are a fan of the 74 Gear channel and Kelsey here on KZbin. 👍
@deansapp4635
@deansapp4635 Жыл бұрын
@@commerce-usa i m a fan of Kelsey
@Kevin_747
@Kevin_747 Жыл бұрын
@@commerce-usa I met him in person once. I've watched a few of his video's. I worked for a different airline.
@junkman8742
@junkman8742 Жыл бұрын
Safe and Effective
@TheVagolfer
@TheVagolfer Жыл бұрын
Whenever government gets involved, logic, common sense and efficiency are thrown away, just as a starting point.
@mikewurlitzer5217
@mikewurlitzer5217 Жыл бұрын
Because when you have a government made up of America's most dishonest professionals, lawyers, every problem in their mind can be fixed with a law. It is the ONLY tool in their tool belt. No person on earth could possibly know all the laws that exist in the USA.
@scobrn11
@scobrn11 Жыл бұрын
Your right on track John. As a retired federal regulator for the FAA I was very concerned about all of these negative consequences as the result of this ridiculous regulation. The FAA never really supported it, but it was shoved down their throat by Congress. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. I believe many more people have died in car accidents due to the increased cost of travel and loss of service to many smaller markets. This hour requirements need to be changed back to what it was before.
@Str8Rippin93
@Str8Rippin93 Жыл бұрын
29 and thinking of being a pilot. Should i pursue it these days
@SilenceDogood76
@SilenceDogood76 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps a reduction in air travel is part of the agenda...
@mikewurlitzer5217
@mikewurlitzer5217 Жыл бұрын
IT IS part of the many instances of the Cloward & Piven Strategy designed to collapse the system and create so much chaos that the public will demand government do "Something/Anything" and never know or care that the "Something/Anything" is the total elimination of every restriction OUR Constitution places on government and the elimination of every Right in our Bill of Rights. That has been the goal since obama and they are using so many instances of the C&P Strategy to assure that goal is reached.
@vumba1331
@vumba1331 Жыл бұрын
Yup.
@scottanos9981
@scottanos9981 Жыл бұрын
Only for the elites, peasants stay tied to the land and slums they are from!
@steveladner4346
@steveladner4346 Жыл бұрын
We are watching this country fall in slow motion....
@mikeb5372
@mikeb5372 Жыл бұрын
I don't agree. It's falling in fast motion now. It had been falling in slow motion since WW2
@mikewurlitzer5217
@mikewurlitzer5217 Жыл бұрын
You are witnessing the results of hundreds of instances of the Cloward & Piven strategy designed to collapse the system and create so much total chaos that the public will demand the government do "something/anything" and never know or care that the "something/anything" is the total elimination of every restriction our constitution places on government and the elimination of our Bill of Rights. That has been the goal since day 1 of the obama administration.
@Witty..UserName
@Witty..UserName Жыл бұрын
@@mikeb5372 i'd actually say 1913
@mikeb5372
@mikeb5372 Жыл бұрын
@@Witty..UserName Agree
@wndGGaRkGBKpXvM6NWHGOeMJv
@wndGGaRkGBKpXvM6NWHGOeMJv Жыл бұрын
When I started learning to fly, the older pilots told me that the rulebook (FAR/AIM), used to be only about 40-60 pages. However, after every adverse aviation event, new rules are sloppily added against whatever sequence of events led to the issue. Now, the FAR/AIM is hundreds of pages (maybe 500+?, I haven't seen an new one in a while).
@campweed
@campweed Жыл бұрын
The 2022 FAR/AIM is 1193 pages long
@gunterchain
@gunterchain Жыл бұрын
I have the 2022 FAR/AIM and its easily over 1000 pages long. Its a 2 inch thick book. Absolutely ridiculous.
@crashnbl1
@crashnbl1 Жыл бұрын
Have you seen the truck drivers green book?
@biggibbs4678
@biggibbs4678 Жыл бұрын
@@campweed I use mine as a door stop
@arthurbrumagem3844
@arthurbrumagem3844 Жыл бұрын
@@gunterchain and the print is smaller to get all that on those “ few” pages
@RandySRT
@RandySRT Жыл бұрын
As an airline pilot, I completely agree that our government has ruined the pre airline training phase.
@jeremiahharrington2380
@jeremiahharrington2380 Жыл бұрын
The union is also correct. Quality of life for regional pilots isn't worth it for potential lateral transfers. RTP program is great, there's a pool of thousands of dudes who would probably consider it, but no way in hell are they going to live in an apartment in Chicago or some other shithole for 50k for the next 3 or so years, on reserve status for half of that most likely, flying the worst lines the company has. Maybe I'd do that for the same pay as a medevac job, but nowadays those are up to 100k without even factoring overtime. The only people that's worth it for are people with longevity who can stick it out for 10 years till they hit the 150s in a major. Not many people fit that bill, and won't since the Army and other services made it an ADSO for flight school of 10 years. The pilot shortage in my opinion started with the 1500 hour requirement, but its been twice as worse for your recruitment paying less than minimum wage to regional guys.
@cherifaidara4244
@cherifaidara4244 Жыл бұрын
Why complain if it increases your salary?
@jeremiahharrington2380
@jeremiahharrington2380 Жыл бұрын
@@cherifaidara4244 what are you smoking, is anyone complaining about salary for regional being too high?
@RandySRT
@RandySRT Жыл бұрын
@@cherifaidara4244 everything isn't about money. Most of us care about quality of life more than anything. At a certain point you have to ask yourself, 'how much is enough money'. Id take more days off over more money at this point in my career. Its a great career, and I love what I do. But the phase of flying before you qualify for an airline is what I was commenting about.
@steveo85
@steveo85 Жыл бұрын
I asked a pilot “Why aren’t there more female pilots?” He replied “For the same reason there aren’t more female auto mechanics or roofers.” Took me a second but makes total sense.
@cargopilotguy305
@cargopilotguy305 Жыл бұрын
The female pilots I’ve flown with have all been competent professionals. It’s no one’s fault that women just aren’t interested in this career as often. I’m gone away from my family for multiple weeks at a time. Most women couldn’t be okay with that.
@steveo85
@steveo85 Жыл бұрын
@@cargopilotguy305 bingo
@mn-mh6uy
@mn-mh6uy Жыл бұрын
Women and men have different interests. For plenty of reasons. Children being a factor but also being wired to have children affects their decisions. It’s probably more rational not to be a pilot and be able to be home with family.
@californiacountry209
@californiacountry209 Жыл бұрын
Too much work
@californiacountry209
@californiacountry209 Жыл бұрын
@@MikeBrady68 I bet you love soy
@cargopilotguy305
@cargopilotguy305 Жыл бұрын
I am currently fortunate enough to fly a 747. My time on Cessnas and pipers didn’t do a damn thing to prepare me for my current job
@elijahwatson8119
@elijahwatson8119 Жыл бұрын
I feel like flying a Cessna prepares you to fly a 747 in the same way driving a Prius prepares you to drive a semi truck. Yeah, some of the concepts carry over but you're still gonna essentially have to relearn everything.
@nuniabiz7982
@nuniabiz7982 Жыл бұрын
1500 hours VFR traffic pattern work! I understand that good habits go with you for your entire career. I fly a commercial jet and honestly I think right after commercial license, you could put a kid in the simulator and prepare them for the job! By the time, they upgrade to captain they are more than ready to be PIC! 1500 is BS!
@cargopilotguy305
@cargopilotguy305 Жыл бұрын
@@nuniabiz7982 I went too far saying it didn’t do anything to prepare me. It’s definitely good to get comfortable in the air, develop your feel for it, get time using radios and autopilot and instruments, but yes I agree with you. 300 hours is enough to begin working for an airline. There’s so many young people who’d happily be pilots but the 1500 hour barrier makes it far too expensive and time consuming.
@OCtheG
@OCtheG Жыл бұрын
@@cargopilotguy305 I’m one, I’d fly in a heartbeat but can’t afford the barrier to entry. But hey, there’s always the Air Force
@MyGoogleYoutube
@MyGoogleYoutube Жыл бұрын
I think it's unusual that you belittle the foundation of your career. Yeah, a 172 isn't going to teach you how to handle a cargo fire but it is where you start learning aeronautical decision making.
@ADKMan
@ADKMan Жыл бұрын
Pilot storage, trucker storage, EMT/Paramedic storage…..all industries that government put heavy regulations on!!
@lukehilliard617
@lukehilliard617 Жыл бұрын
Cost of training is a huge factor anywhere from $60-100,000 in training alone. Many airlines also require a degree which in reality has not helped me fly a plane whatsoever.
@eltorpedo67
@eltorpedo67 Жыл бұрын
You know, if I was a conspiracy theorist, I might start to believe that between regulatory interference like this, pandemic restrictions, soaring fuel prices, etc., there is a coordinated effort to make personal travel more difficult than ever. I'd wonder if all of this is somehow related to the climate-change agenda - perhaps getting us used to limited travel and make compliance with looming green initiatives easier.
@quantumac
@quantumac Жыл бұрын
Just because Biden says he can "taste our frustration" doesn't mean our frustration is now his favorite dish or anything. I mean, just because he's ordering up second and third and fourth helpings of our frustration doesn't mean he likes it...
@qx4n9e1xp
@qx4n9e1xp Жыл бұрын
You're not a conspiracy theorist, you're an independent thinker who's trying to make sense of what's going on. We all know the truth is ugly sometimes, and those that benefit from keeping people in the dark the most are probably the ones doing dirty, dishonest things. Smoke screens & rug-pulls, been happening for a long time, and those who pay attention at least have time to prepare.
@Beefster09
@Beefster09 Жыл бұрын
There are, and always have been, conspiracies under our noses. Yeah it's not about lizard people or turning the frogs gay, but conspiracy is just the harsh reality of politics. The idea that something is false because it sounds like a conspiracy theory is fallacious and illogical. Needs a name like "argument from tinfoil hat"
@virginiascurti5036
@virginiascurti5036 Жыл бұрын
Sorry but it is very related to the climate agenda and is a conspiracy in the sense that it is a tactic to reduce middle class mobility.
@mysteryY2K
@mysteryY2K Жыл бұрын
@@qx4n9e1xp lay off the crack pipe
@sbfcapnj
@sbfcapnj Жыл бұрын
Airplane and helicopter CFII here. Lost my medical three years ago due to an injury I sustained in combat during one of my deployments to Afghanistan. I applied for VA compensation and my medical certificate was revoked. Spent two years and $7,000 appealing the FAA's decision. I finally won my appeal, but now it would cost me well over $10,000 to get re-current so I could fly again. I'd be up in the skies right now if I could. The appeals process takes so incredibly long if you're just some random dude like me and not some big shot airline captain because the FAA still operates a paper records intake process. You can't email the FAA anything involving your medical records. You have to mail it to them in Oklahoma City. This means that there's a 4 to 6 week turnaround for anything that you send them. That time adds up and before you know it, two years have passed. I was told by my congressman Brad Wenstrup that it would take federal legislation to upgrade the FAA's records intake to digital because of the way their charter was written. So yeah. Pilot shortage. We deserve it because the FAA treats combat veterans like we're criminals, but they welcome alcoholics and drug addicts with open arms. Fuck the FAA.
@deansapp4635
@deansapp4635 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service. Also I agree with you 100%
@ssunkite1
@ssunkite1 Жыл бұрын
I humbly thank you for your service and honorable duty to America. I cannot imagine the frustration you had to go through because of government bureaucracy and massive red tape. Keep up the good fight and God bless you.
@xxxBradTxxx
@xxxBradTxxx Жыл бұрын
>fuck the FAA, the main reason I dropped out of A&P school was due to bs CFRs
@northdakotaham1752
@northdakotaham1752 Жыл бұрын
The government treats ALL the "common folk" like criminals. Thank you for your sacrifices.
@phillies4eva
@phillies4eva Жыл бұрын
The medical division of the FAA is without a doubt the most difficult arena to escape from once you are in. I had some issues with mine and after years of appeals and expensive consultations with human intervention medical specialists who bill at $300/hr I finally gave up. It's all just paper records. My advice is to talk to a number of people before even starting and make sure that you go to the most chill medical examiner possible. Some of them won't even test for color blindness. I have no DUI, perfect vision, perfect health but I went to the wrong examiner who decided to dig years into my past. Don't make my mistake.
@matthewchampagne356
@matthewchampagne356 Жыл бұрын
The one counter argument I have in response is, If the airlines need pilots why don’t they help fund some of the training required to get 1500 hours? Most places charge anywhere from $180-$300/per hour to rent a plane to build time. I think this issue also forces pilots into a flight instructor role that they would have never been in. It’s one of the only ways now to get your 1500 hours and I think it’s starting to create issues. If the instructor doesn’t want to teach but is the only option it can hinder other students training and create a cycle of bad pilots. Most non-airline jobs still require anywhere from 750-more than 1500 hours.
@ryanpayne7707
@ryanpayne7707 Жыл бұрын
They do, but they force you to sign a contract, al la ROTC, agreeing to fly with them for a set amount of time or pay them back for your training. There are airlines that are absolute shit to thier pilots and employees (cough*Southwest*cough.) (Fired me for "causing" a delay by letting the flight crew know their oil sight gauge was dry.)
@hewhohasnoidentity4377
@hewhohasnoidentity4377 Жыл бұрын
If anyone thinks having 1500 hours of experience makes you a safer pilot.......consider this: You can complete the training well enough to teach other people how to fly multi-engine aircraft in weather in less than 300 hours. Then you can use a single-engine 2-seat aircraft that doesn't go as fast as your personal vehicle to just fly in circles somewhere outside of the way of traffic and land when it is time for fuel. This counts as hours. They can even share the expense and have another pilot that needs hours join them. That way they can each get time as Pilot In Command. Congress decided that in between flight school and learning to fly the aircraft type you will fly at the airlines, it is necessary to spend over 1000 hours of time flying in any form whatsoever other than in an airliner. Even worse, the crash that they were "doing something to prevent" was caused by a Captain and First Officer that had 3,379 and 2,244 hours respectively. The rule wouldn't have stopped these individuals from being in the cockpit.
@themilkman8554
@themilkman8554 Жыл бұрын
I'm getting into the aviation industry, and one thing that I came to realize is that Big Airline companies and The Gov are in eachothers pockets. Big Airlines lobby to ensure that individual pilots cannot fly people for money unless they become a part 91 part 135 or 121 operations. So, essentially as an individual you can't start your own airline unless you have enough money for everything required under those regulations. If every private pilot was able to fly people from A to B for hire, then airlines wouldn't exist- or at least they wouldn't be as big as they are.
@ryanpayne7707
@ryanpayne7707 Жыл бұрын
Hell, I got fired by Southwest for looking at an oil sight gauge, telling the flight crew they didn't have any oil, and "caused" a delay in the process. The mechanic himself said the aircraft was not airworthy, but fuck that. What's a 150 lives to a few hundred dollars in profits?
@Rogers15777
@Rogers15777 Жыл бұрын
If private pilots flew people from A-B they wouldn’t be private pilots anymore, the cost to go anywhere would be astronomically high (small planes aren’t efficient at moving people for low cost), there’d be a lot of dead unscrupulous passengers, insurance would be more insane than it already is, etc. Also Part 91 has nothing to do with moving passengers or cargo for hire. Please have more knowledge on the subject before you comment.
@HarrisChoudhry
@HarrisChoudhry Жыл бұрын
@@ryanpayne7707 wtf, how is that legal? They fired you for pointing out a valid safety concern? Aren't pilots supposed to do a walk around of the aircraft anyways?
@ryanpayne7707
@ryanpayne7707 Жыл бұрын
@@HarrisChoudhry I reported them to the FAA and because they didn't actually fly without oil (after I told them,) they didn't violate any CFRs. Or at least, that's what the FAA said. They've almost lost thier operating certificate twice. Personally, I think Southwest has thier hands so far down the FAA's pants they could tie thier shoes.
@TIO540S1
@TIO540S1 Жыл бұрын
@@ryanpayne7707 Yeah, I'm calling bulls**t.
@adamgonzalez7450
@adamgonzalez7450 Жыл бұрын
It doesn’t help that blood clots are also exacerbated at high altitudes. And I wonder what has been causing them for all these pilots…
@agisler87
@agisler87 Жыл бұрын
The jet airlines are pressurized to mimic 8000ft.
@joejoey7272
@joejoey7272 Жыл бұрын
As an airline captain that works abroad where they hire their locals right after their commercial pilot certification I agree with you that the 1500 hours rule is a baseless rule that has no correlation to the safety of aviation, there’s some evidence that having that many hours makes a worse and less safe pilot depending on where he flew those 1500 hours
@Justacogg
@Justacogg Жыл бұрын
Well done Mr. John Stossel, thank you.
@TheSimba86
@TheSimba86 Жыл бұрын
Going to be a massive truck driver shortage also because they just made it a lot harder and way more expensive to get endorsements
@towel9646
@towel9646 Жыл бұрын
No they didn’t. There are companies that will train you on the spot for free.
@waltermh111
@waltermh111 Жыл бұрын
@@towel9646 and there are companies that wont do that, and the companies that will have a limited number of driver spots. So your comment is irrelevant. Also, you dont account for independent drivers, which are still essential for the commercial industry.
@johnjones-yt8rt
@johnjones-yt8rt Жыл бұрын
@@towel9646 You will be treated like shit by trash companies.
@ljthirtyfiver
@ljthirtyfiver Жыл бұрын
What did they change ?
@exit328
@exit328 Жыл бұрын
I’m no longer pursuing a career in aviation due to this exact law. In 2008 I was nearing 250 hours. That is when they pulled the rug out. It cost me 100,000. dollars to get 250 hours. 1500 on your own dime is insane. I took small jobs for years trying to achieve it. Then other jobs paid more than piloting is worth. I love flying. I still do. But not for anyone but me thanks to congress.
@johnnyappleseed5753
@johnnyappleseed5753 Жыл бұрын
You don’t need to pay for 1500. Hit 250, get your commercial, get working as a CFI till 500-1000, getting paid the whole time, then fly cargo, private, corporate, agricultural, or many many other jobs to finish out the 1500-2000 to move to the airlines
@exit328
@exit328 Жыл бұрын
@@johnnyappleseed5753 I understand that. I got up to 1250 hours taking low paying pilot jobs. But I was getting older. Time was moving on and money was scarce. I took an engineering job between pilot jobs. I can never go back to the low wages. The week before I got 250 every student at my school that had 250 had offers. I had to work years longer to start working for an airline. I missed by a week. I know you can get there. But I didn’t want to flight instruct. I wanted to be an airline pilot. Congress changed the rules to help their lobbyist. Not for safety. I pick up bad habits flying alone. I try not to, but I do. It’s best to put people in the airlines straight out of school.
@MyGoogleYoutube
@MyGoogleYoutube Жыл бұрын
So, becoming a flight instructor was something you didn't want to pursue? You spent 100k to pursue a career worth 5 to 10 million and just quit? Yeah - more to the story on this one.
@towel9646
@towel9646 Жыл бұрын
You’re full of it
@jfangm
@jfangm Жыл бұрын
@@MyGoogleKZbin They quit because the regulations were forcing them into a job THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO. People like you have no sense of individuality, that people might want to do certain jobs. You just think everyone wants to do what makes them the most money. As a security guard, I've turned down sites that pay really well because I didn't want to leave the sites I'm already at, or because those sites didn't appeal to me. Doing a job you hate is toxic and self-destructive, regardless of how much you make.
@raythackston1960
@raythackston1960 Жыл бұрын
Politicians should never be involved in anything private!! Ever!!
@ronlivaudais6523
@ronlivaudais6523 Жыл бұрын
Most of the bureaucrats have no idea what aviation is and what it takes to fly a plane? And they are the experts as to who can and who can’t fly a plane?
@n4d3m4n
@n4d3m4n Жыл бұрын
I've been harping on this for over a decade now! I saw a lot of my friends get fucked over by this rule when it came out! 1500 hours is 3/4ths of the way to an engine rebuild for a C172. We're limiting our pilots to the amount of O-320s we can produce! This is insane!
@ChristopherRyans
@ChristopherRyans Жыл бұрын
John Stossel is a American hero and Legend!!
@DuncanWilliamsOFFICIAL
@DuncanWilliamsOFFICIAL Жыл бұрын
Journalist = hero US soldier get shot, receiving fire, explosion and bad company = crickets 🦗
@Libertariun
@Libertariun Жыл бұрын
A journalist who still has integrity in the age of corporate journalism is brave. So yea, also a hero.
@showmemo3686
@showmemo3686 Жыл бұрын
Calling him a hero is a stretch. More like a success in his chosen field of endeavor.
@ChristopherRyans
@ChristopherRyans Жыл бұрын
I guess I should say one of my Heroes. He has been at it for so long and I'm so glad that he's around
@DuncanWilliamsOFFICIAL
@DuncanWilliamsOFFICIAL Жыл бұрын
@@Libertariun you’re acting like you need journalism to tell you what to think. People knowing how to think is extinct.
@DrewRycerz
@DrewRycerz Жыл бұрын
I'll tell you right now as a pilot 1500 hours is absolutely ridiculous. Beyond unnecessary.
@tylerharris7081
@tylerharris7081 Жыл бұрын
Whenever there is any sort of accident or tragedy, governments first reaction is to add a mile of regulations to everything even tangentially related to the incident. If another incident does not occur they pat themselves on the back for "fixing" the problem even if the regulations did nothing. If another incident occurs clearly the solution just needs more red tape.
@Br3ttM
@Br3ttM Жыл бұрын
They want to be seen "doing something" about whatever the public sees as a problem. The public doesn't tend to look too deeply at what is done, or know enough about the field to tell if it would help.
@charlesuplifted5216
@charlesuplifted5216 Жыл бұрын
People who have never worked in a certain field shouldn’t have the right to legislate laws on that work field So in other words… if you don’t know how a airliner works you shouldn’t be telling them how to do their jobs
@ryanpayne7707
@ryanpayne7707 Жыл бұрын
Hell, I'd like to see them try to handle a 172 in the pattern, much less a 737 in IMC.
@michaelwarren2391
@michaelwarren2391 Жыл бұрын
Which means that elected officials shouldn't be able to legislate almost anything.
@charlesuplifted5216
@charlesuplifted5216 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelwarren2391 yes
@nova31337
@nova31337 Жыл бұрын
I was concerned when I saw a report about airlines wanting to reduce training requirements to obtain more pilots, but now because of you I know that flight time has been ridiculously hiked up and should be reduced. Thank you for all you do to ensure everyone is seeing the full picture!
@ge2719
@ge2719 Жыл бұрын
exactly, thats what they do, politicians do ridiculous things, their friends in the media cover for them and frame it as bad if their ridiculous idea are reversed.
@Gitn2it
@Gitn2it Жыл бұрын
You're right. A lot of people thought they were lowering the standards in order to hire more pilots.
@andrewa5077
@andrewa5077 Жыл бұрын
You are wrong about this, and so it Stossel. I’ve been typically supportive of his work, but as someone in the industry this video was just painful to listen to. In regards to the 1500 hour rule and Colgan Airlines. Everyone stating that they both had over 1500 hours and it was a training issue, not the 1500 hour rule that caused the crash… Let me enlighten anyone who wasn’t in the industry at the time. Due to every regional hiring pilots with as little as 300 hours, pay was rock bottom. The First Officer was making less than 18,000 per year and couldn’t afford as much as a crash pad. She was commuting from Seattle to EWR. In Seattle, she was living with her parents and working part time as a waitress to make ends meet. Both pilots slept in the crew room (as was quite common during those times). One pilot even went undercover to show how bad it was with people sleeping in crew rooms and the 18 people to a room crash pads. So, the 1500 hour rule is absolutely a safety issue. If airlines can do what they did in the past, you’ll see them all gut their contracts within months. I literally qualified for food stamps and Medicaid in 2009. I was living in a basement room in Ozone Park, Queens NY. Be careful what you wish for.
@Rindiculousfun
@Rindiculousfun Жыл бұрын
@@andrewa5077 Very true point. The hike in hours has been very good for the pilots who have been able to get to that threshold. It's just getting there. In Canada, it's still about 250 hours for first officer positions, but the pay is god awful up until you become a captain on an airline and even then it starts at about 80k Canadian dollars which is not very good for working in an industry for 10 or more years on top of 100k+ in training over many years previously. In the US because of the regulations they pay about twice as well as any other country in the world for pilots. As a Canadian 1500 hour pilot, I have thought long and hard about getting my FAA conversion to work down there since the wages are twice as high, and the price of living is almost half as cheap.
@andrewa5077
@andrewa5077 Жыл бұрын
@@Rindiculousfun come to America if you can, but definitely keep your Canadian citizenship for the healthcare, or if you want to go back at some point. Getting your certificate transferred into FAA certs is easy, getting a green card and or work visa is more complicated. We’re hiring the Australians, I’m not sure why it’s so hard for the snow Mexicans to come work here. Even our ULCC airlines like frontier and spirit, sun country even have a starting first officer pay way more than $80k, what they pay you guys up there is insultingly low, you deserve better. Meanwhile I’m over here getting a 20% raise and 19% company pension contribution negotiated for me by the ALPA, like damn.
@BradleyBishop
@BradleyBishop Жыл бұрын
I think there's another problem not covered here: Three's a gap between the older, wiser/more experienced guys now and the new hires. (about a 13 year gap). Before I'd imagine that you had a fairly regular influx of new pilots who'd be taken under the wing of an experienced pilot and get them up to snuff. Now you have 13 years of that opportunity being missed and, if they do ease regulations, which it seems like they'll have to if they want flying to be viable, then you'll have new pilots and not enough older guys around to show them the ropes. I expect that would make flying more dangerous due to new-pilot errors.
@Fitzfish
@Fitzfish Жыл бұрын
There is no 13 year gap. Regional airline pilots flow up to major airlines. The pilots have plenty of experience. They are already "up to snuff". The training in the simulator is on each new airplane. The line flying is largely the same.
@johnpatrick1588
@johnpatrick1588 Жыл бұрын
From 2000 to 2020 there were 49,607 pilots hired by 17 (some since out of business/merged) airlines in the USA according to FAPA. This is 2,481 pilots per year on average and they need 12,000 by next year? I smell something is up. In 2019 there were 4977 hired and in 2020 there were 2398. The highest was in 2017 with 4988, and the lowest was 30 in 2009.
@joshwheeler9700
@joshwheeler9700 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget about the walkout by pilots due to the vaccine mandates. I'm not saying that its the big reason behind pilot shortages, but it is a factor
@californiacountry209
@californiacountry209 Жыл бұрын
Same as having 16 people hospitalized during NY half marathon, not saying its just because of the jab, but its a factor. lol
@rovers141
@rovers141 Жыл бұрын
There's quite a few things he's not mentioning. There is still a perfectly acceptable path available for aspiring airline pilots to get the training they need, and it can be done just as fast or even faster than getting a 4 year degree. If this were the only reason for the shortage then there wouldn't be a shortage.
@BalrogUdun
@BalrogUdun Жыл бұрын
I’m a fueler and it’s a mess out of the major airports in NY they almost daily take delays. The airlines are back to precovid numbers but they do not have the staffing to accommodate it. One major airline only had 4 ground crew on the ramp and they had 5 gates during a rush.
@Komagb
@Komagb Жыл бұрын
Thank you for another piece of TRUTH!
@thadrepairsitall1278
@thadrepairsitall1278 Жыл бұрын
As a professional mechanic I fully agree that there is a big difference between just getting hours and getting quality. At the beginning people do need repetition to understand what normal is. After that they need to learn how to deal with bad situations and how to get out of them.
@johnpatrick1588
@johnpatrick1588 Жыл бұрын
Airline times may be different and only boom times ahead are expected but I experienced it as a boom-bust cycle industry. Furloughs, downgrades, strikes, layoffs, mergers, bankruptcies, and pay cuts (lots). Plus it is one of the few professions where more experience doesn't matter when going to work for competitors(by force or choice) because of the number seniority system. Leave one airline as a captain and you will be starting off as a new co-pilot at the new airline. Select a company wisely since you will be married to it. Have a plan "B". In my case, I had bought and started unrelated businesses which eventually wound up replacing flying as my primary occupation until I retired at 46 sixteen years ago.
@johnpatrick1588
@johnpatrick1588 Жыл бұрын
Back in my day the min qualifications were a commercial pilot license, instrument rating, multi-engine rating, radio telephone license, and 250 flight hours. Those were the minimums but were not really competitive in the applicant pool.
@aplushomesllc
@aplushomesllc Жыл бұрын
This is a big problem thanks John
@WS-hf3yr
@WS-hf3yr Жыл бұрын
Also "Insurance Companies" and more so "Lawyers" are the main reason!
@jeniko2841
@jeniko2841 Жыл бұрын
When you are paying pilots 20K a year to fly grandma from Buffalo to Fairfax, you end up with a pilot shortage. High paying pilot jobs are flights between the US and other countries, same with flight attendants.
@juneyshu6197
@juneyshu6197 Жыл бұрын
20k is volunteering!
@ChrisHensley2
@ChrisHensley2 Жыл бұрын
Keep it up stossel!
@rodolfocastro3222
@rodolfocastro3222 Жыл бұрын
Thank you John for making this video so people understand the stupidity of our politicians. I’m a private pilot and one of the reasons I didn’t pursue my dream of becoming a commercial pilot was the 1,500 hour requirement. Thanks!
@sirbrad2336
@sirbrad2336 Жыл бұрын
An eye opening revelation. Thank you John.
@dwayne7356
@dwayne7356 Жыл бұрын
I rather see 250 hours in a simulator in the aircraft that they are going to fly. Imagine how many flight emergency procedures that you can do in a simulator than after hobby flying for 1500 hours.
@bbgun061
@bbgun061 Жыл бұрын
Most pilots become flight instructors at 250 hours and teach until they have 1500. Some find jobs as non-airline commercial pilots starting around 500 or 1000.
@anthonyluisi7096
@anthonyluisi7096 Жыл бұрын
Pilot shortage , baby formula shortage , TP shortage, paper towel shortage , geez what’s next ?
@HVACSoldier
@HVACSoldier Жыл бұрын
@Anthony Luisi The one shortage we never seem to get is a shortage of Democrats and Republicans, in Washington.
@xacv1402
@xacv1402 Жыл бұрын
Water Shortage next0
@MrRoman-lo6ih
@MrRoman-lo6ih Жыл бұрын
@@HVACSoldier lol
@anthonyluisi7096
@anthonyluisi7096 Жыл бұрын
@@HVACSoldier , so true 👍🏻
@fermiticus4034
@fermiticus4034 Жыл бұрын
Same as it ever was...every time the gov gets involved, they create an even bigger problem. This change in the rules happened just after I finished my commercial/multi rating, and started sending out resumes. I was at 500 hours. No way I can afford another 1000. Aside from military, who have legit experience, the majority of those who get to 1500, get 1000-1200 of those hours as an instructor, sitting in the right seat and barely even flying...they're basically regurgitating the same stuff from their first 60-80 hours of learning to fly.
@mrush336
@mrush336 Жыл бұрын
John Stossel. One of the last real journalists we have.
@alexandermcdiarmid3822
@alexandermcdiarmid3822 Жыл бұрын
Hi John! I’m a Student Pilot with about 20 hours logged. 250 hours is still the minimum requirement for a Commercial Pilot (hirable). 40 for Private (hobby). I’m not sure why the 1,500 number exists for the Airline Transport Pilot (ATP) license but I’d be interested to find how they got that number. Most pilots get their ATP from building hours as a Commercial Pilot. I agree that it can create scenarios to deeper ingrain bad habits. 1,500 hours does not include reading, testing, medical certification, etc. Getting strictly 1,500 flight hours (including simulator training which can be logged as flight hours) without utilizing a Commercial license is practically impossible without an unlimited budget and I think that’s supposed to be part of the idea. Regardless, a minimum amount of simulator training is required at an ATP level.
@WinginWolf
@WinginWolf Жыл бұрын
If I'm not mistaken, the actual change was that the FO needs an ATP, which happened to be 1500 hours (I heard it was 1000 before).
@scobrn11
@scobrn11 Жыл бұрын
1500 hours for an Airline Transport Pilot is a worldwide (ICAO) standard, but only for the Pilot in Command. That was never an issue since most PICs worked their way up the ranks as a First Officer. The change made it a requirement for FO to have 1500 hours, this is only a US requirement mandated by Congress, as most countries follow the ICAO standards. Any country can set their standards higher than the minimum ICAO standard.
@ryanpayne7707
@ryanpayne7707 Жыл бұрын
@@WinginWolf 1000 hours if they're former military, 1,250 if they graduated from an "accredited" flight training program (read: said flight school gave the FAA a lot of money,) 1500 for everyone else.
@andrewa5077
@andrewa5077 Жыл бұрын
In regards to the 1500 hour rule and Colgan Airlines. Everyone stating that they both had over 1500 hours and it was a training issue, not the 1500 hour rule that caused the crash… Let me enlighten anyone who wasn’t in the industry at the time. Due to every regional hiring pilots with as little as 300 hours, pay was rock bottom. The First Officer was making less than 18,000 per year and couldn’t afford as much as a crash pad. She was commuting from Seattle to EWR. In Seattle, she was living with her parents and working part time as a waitress to make ends meet. Both pilots slept in the crew room (as was quite common during those times). One pilot even went undercover to show how bad it was with people sleeping in crew rooms and the 18 people to a room crash pads. So, the 1500 hour rule is absolutely a safety issue. If airlines can do what they did in the past, you’ll see them all gut their contracts within months. I literally qualified for food stamps and Medicaid in 2009. I was living in a basement room in Ozone Park, Queens NY. Be careful what you wish for.
@MrRipper1956
@MrRipper1956 Жыл бұрын
​@@andrewa5077 That was a tough time back then. I rode jumpseats to get home on RJs sometimes and one of them had a new First Officer on his first Operational experience flight in the aircraft. The Captain was a very busy pilot that day. He had to be a Captain, instructor, and standards pilot on that flight. The F/O had been hired with 250 hours from instructor flying in North Dakota. That flight was his first in an actual jet at the world's busiest airport with 70 passengers in back. That Captain earned his pay that day and the flight was safely flown. Had the flight occurred in the notorious weather the south is famous for, a mechanical issue, etc the captain would have been flying solo. I have so much respect for my F/Os who paid their dues with poor pay, terrible schedules, heavy debts, etc. When they reach the majors they have a great attitude and experience and we were fortunate. I shudder to think what would happen if those standards were in effect and they were hired straight into the majors from school or puppy farms.
@mattdillon4398
@mattdillon4398 Жыл бұрын
What about the fact that pilots were forced to get an experimental shot or be fired? Do you think that might have anything to do with a pilot shortage? I'm disappointed John.
@brkbtjunkie
@brkbtjunkie Жыл бұрын
He did some videos on that though
@g8Words
@g8Words Жыл бұрын
Bingo. Thousands of pilots (military & civilian) quit to avoid it, and hundreds got maimed or killed by it.
@JamesSmullins
@JamesSmullins Жыл бұрын
He's done videos on that subject, this is a separate issue and that's why it's not talked about. Often it's best to stay in one lane to make your point not changing lanes to cover every variable.
@showmemo3686
@showmemo3686 Жыл бұрын
@@g8Words BS
@EliotLu
@EliotLu Жыл бұрын
2:19 shows this was a trend MANY years before COVID. Sure, it may have contributed but it’s not needed to make the point regarding the impact of 2010’s change in law.
@ratedm90
@ratedm90 Жыл бұрын
After wanting to be a pilot since I was a kid, I changed my mind when I worked at the airport and talked to pilots.
@kippaa7777
@kippaa7777 Жыл бұрын
People have no idea what they are talking about in regards to this profession. It’s the height of stupidity!
@The_gaming_gazimon
@The_gaming_gazimon Жыл бұрын
i was on track to go to flight school for my license right out of highschool thanks to my grandfather being a retiree from continental, but it was raised to 1500 hours during the year i was to graduate, and all of the sudden, the entire career wasn't an option any more simply due to the cost. i still want my pilots license and i would still love to be a pilot as a career, but even to this day 12 years later it's just not a financial option. and unless that law is changed, it probably won't ever be.
@rogueviper6076
@rogueviper6076 Жыл бұрын
And that dear sir is the real reason for the regs....so then only the elite can afford it.
@bbgun061
@bbgun061 Жыл бұрын
So get your CFI and teach for a year or two. It's not impossible unless you say it is.
@MrRipper1956
@MrRipper1956 Жыл бұрын
If you still want a career then check back with the airline especially if you had a family member there. Many have ab initio or low time pipelines in effect now. Good luck.
@geddon436
@geddon436 Жыл бұрын
@@bbgun061 do cfi make a liveable wage? Is it normally enough to pay rent, gas, insurance, groceries,
@bbgun061
@bbgun061 Жыл бұрын
@@geddon436 yes, as long as one lives frugally.
@johnpatrick1588
@johnpatrick1588 Жыл бұрын
The EU and other countries allow an Ab Initio system of pilot training. Applicants start from zero flight time to around 300 flight hours in 24 months including business jet flt time ending with a type rating in the A320 costing US$125k. It is airline-specific type training ending with either a frozen ATP until 1500 hrs reached.
@FlyingNDriving
@FlyingNDriving Жыл бұрын
And they take out large loans for their training, get paid 20k euros a year to fly 150 souls and crash way more often than US carriers... Your point?
@PhilopateirAnwar
@PhilopateirAnwar Жыл бұрын
That clip of the person tripping got me good I wasn't ready🤣
@romel420
@romel420 Жыл бұрын
LOL @ the woman who fell off her patio, bet she never expected to be featured as an example of walking accidents! 🤣
@stephenyoungblood3683
@stephenyoungblood3683 Жыл бұрын
As a flight instructor, please let me share my perspective: The cost difference between 1500 hrs and 250 hrs is (1500hrs -250hrs) X ~$150/hr(to rent a plane)= $187,500.00 !!!, at a minimum. Most pilots don’t have that amount of cash available to get to the 1500 hours. After that, the FAA requires a pilot to attend and pass an ATP- Certified Training Course, which is another ~$5000. Then they have to take a check ride from an examiner which can charge ~$1000. Even at 250 hours the pilot has already spent around $50,000 just to get their commercial certification. If they can get a paying gig at 250 hrs, they might get $12/hr flying for a regional as a first officer until they get to the minimums. I haven’t even mentioned to pitfalls set before pilots by the Code of Federal Regulations(CFRs).
@towel9646
@towel9646 Жыл бұрын
Getting rid of regulations would just cause pilots to be paid less
@andrewa5077
@andrewa5077 Жыл бұрын
In regards to the 1500 hour rule and Colgan Airlines. Everyone stating that they both had over 1500 hours and it was a training issue, not the 1500 hour rule that caused the crash… Let me enlighten anyone who wasn’t in the industry at the time. Due to every regional hiring pilots with as little as 300 hours, pay was rock bottom. The First Officer was making less than 18,000 per year and couldn’t afford as much as a crash pad. She was commuting from Seattle to EWR. In Seattle, she was living with her parents and working part time as a waitress to make ends meet. Both pilots slept in the crew room (as was quite common during those times). One pilot even went undercover to show how bad it was with people sleeping in crew rooms and the 18 people to a room crash pads. So, the 1500 hour rule is absolutely a safety issue. If airlines can do what they did in the past, you’ll see them all gut their contracts within months. I literally qualified for food stamps and Medicaid in 2009. I was living in a basement room in Ozone Park, Queens NY. Be careful what you wish for. It’s not so much that I disagree with everything you said, it’s that you don’t understand from your foxhole what the airline industry is like. You are on the outside looking in. I’ll try once more and then I will leave you to your own thoughts. Because from your vantage point they are not without merit. And I respect that. The 1500 hour rule will be debated endlessly, because it’s not going away. Even Republic isn’t arguing for its repeal. Nowhere in their request did they say that. They’re only arguing that, “Our training program through our flight school partner Lift is as good as military training, so why not let us create an ab initio program and receive a similar reduction in the hours through a R-ATP?” But no matter how many times us “old guys” explain it, some newbies will never understand that without this “seemingly useless” rule, wages will plummet. Nobody but new guys want the rule to go away. Even 23 year old pilots at Delta don’t want it to go away. And you’d think we wouldn’t care since we are already at the majors and legacies. Our wages won’t drop at all. In fact they’d likely stay the same and rise, if for no other reason than they’d need to remain high to entice guys like you to fly a CRJ for $20K a year for 10 years. This industry is full of stories of pilot groups taking pay cuts. Well my friend, get ready for the larger pay cut in aviation history. Because it would probably be irresponsible of companies that have shareholders NOT to cut costs if they could. And with the crush of shave tail CFIs jumping to a their first jet you’d absolutely get that. Are you ready to live off that? It won’t be these “old guys” that have to. It. Will. Be. You. I’ve been in aviation since 1993. Training costs have risen with inflation. College educations are even worse; they have far outpaced flight training costs and inflation. So that is why we created RTAG - The Veteran to Aviation Charity. If you are a veteran you hardly have to pay for any of it. In some cases nothing. And we help you find a time building job. Not a time building loan. If you have served your country then you can get all your flight training for free unless you are spectacularly bad with money and have gotten yourself into debt, you have a medical issue, you happen to be terrible at flying or you just don’t study well. So regardless of how loudly you cavil, it ain’t gonna happen and it doesn’t affect you. No need to thank us. And for your civilian friends we can help them get into the military as well where they can do their part for this great Nation and earn their free flight training too. Now that’s what I call real truth and real solutions. Cause the 1500 hour rule ain’t going away. Especially not in an election year! 😂
@flyboy126
@flyboy126 Жыл бұрын
I have been in aviation my entire life and NEVER had a positive experience with the FAA... They are a joke that isn't funny...
@pablopicaro7649
@pablopicaro7649 Жыл бұрын
1500hrs x $100 hr (cheap end) = $150,000 spent private flying a prop plane
@randylavine3003
@randylavine3003 Жыл бұрын
As a commercially trained pilot w/3000+ hours, and retired I went to check out the Civil Air Patrol. Simply more gov't. crap! I will bet it actually cost $500 to make a $50 flight due to "more govmt" rules, etc! I will go look at the "Experimental Aircraft Assn" and see what their plans are!
@MarcPagan
@MarcPagan Жыл бұрын
From a former airline pilot ...I left fling during the 2000s, due to the need to earn the going wage for human life. Was paid $20K for flying a 50 passenger jet ....to get to the required training and hours cost $40K. Flight hours do not "equate to experience" was stated in this video, ...."good experience" is the improved comment.
@towel9646
@towel9646 Жыл бұрын
Seems this pilot shortage spills good news for whoever wants to fly.
@MarcPagan
@MarcPagan Жыл бұрын
@@towel9646 For those under age 25, being a pilot is once again a viable career. Corporate, cargo, military, police (chopper), and airline. Most regional airlines start at $35,000+, with a quick move to $50K+ ..and about $30 per day for food, non-taxable. A few airlines have a $10K signing bonus. But, it requires an investment of $50K, plus or minus $10K or so. As touched upon in this video, post the Buffalo crash, the Federal regs changed. Prior, to fly for an airline one needed 250 hours and a Commercial license. It was safe, as low time pilots were, and are, matched with high time teaching Captains. Now one needs 1500 hours and an Airline Transport License. ...which equates to at least one extra year of flight instructing, for the 99% of people that cannot afford to pay abt $150 an hour to rent a plane for 1000 hours to build flight time. Flight instructors get flight time for every hour instructing in the air. It's valid credit, as one is really learning via a wide range of situations.
@towel9646
@towel9646 Жыл бұрын
@@MarcPagan I’ve heard regional pay is gone up quite a bit! This may sound selfish but, if there was no pilot shortage, regional pilots would still be paid $20 an hour. Seems like a good thing for anyone who wants to commit to being an airline pilot
@ingramfry7179
@ingramfry7179 Жыл бұрын
When people avoided flying after 9/11 it caused an increase in road accidents, killing more people than 9/11 itself. Chances are this has had the same effect.
@topofthegreen
@topofthegreen Жыл бұрын
You need to spend over 100,000 to be hirable, the 1,500 rule will never go away. I wouldn’t be surprised if they raise it to 2,000.
@jschwartzmier
@jschwartzmier Жыл бұрын
Another cargo and former regional airline pilot here. I lived through this change when I was a flight instructor. I can tell you that the 1,500 rule is completely useless. They should have required more and better training at the regional airlines. Instead, we continue to train as quickly and cheaply as possible. Of course, the airlines have lobbyists to make sure they don't have pay for better training.
@chaserohwedder8852
@chaserohwedder8852 Жыл бұрын
It’s almost like we should abolish the government and start over. 🤷‍♂️
@garrysmith1029
@garrysmith1029 Жыл бұрын
I won't say start over a lot of countries did that and failed at protecting freedom. What we should do is try to deregulate government and try to let people understand why
@californiacountry209
@californiacountry209 Жыл бұрын
Not abolish, just a major down sizing
@ssunkite1
@ssunkite1 Жыл бұрын
There are others like the elites that want the some version of that. It's called the great reset.
@foetusdeletus6313
@foetusdeletus6313 Жыл бұрын
@@californiacountry209 the only time downsizing a government worked was through guillotines
@californiacountry209
@californiacountry209 Жыл бұрын
@@foetusdeletus6313 I'm open to your suggestions
@hud86
@hud86 Жыл бұрын
You'd get more pilots if it was less militant and expensive to fly. You can have procedure and reliability without being treated like cannon fodder. I'm a 5,000 hour pilot and love flying, but hate the industry
@harrisc8101
@harrisc8101 Жыл бұрын
John where on Earth are all of your fellow journalists? You are still the best.
@zecatela
@zecatela Жыл бұрын
I was dying at the 4:05 mark. Great example Mr. Stossel!
@TwoPlusTwoEqualsFive32
@TwoPlusTwoEqualsFive32 Жыл бұрын
Honestly given how advanced simulators have become I am not sure why pilots don't get more simulator time being allowed to practice novel or unexpected failures.
@ssunkite1
@ssunkite1 Жыл бұрын
A realistic simulator should have in it's design the capacity of at least 100 passengers. Make it as real as the real thing.
@TwoPlusTwoEqualsFive32
@TwoPlusTwoEqualsFive32 Жыл бұрын
@@ssunkite1 I am not sure if you are being sarcastic but simulators do simulate the weights and loads of passengers. Or are you referring to the mental pressure that comes with having lives in your hands? If so obviously simulator training cannot replicate this however you could say that about any other method of training pilots receive short of actual inflight time with passengers, but during a real flight you cannot simulate many faults or issues in a safe or repeatable way. For example you would not go up into a real airliner and simulate a complete engine failure with passengers on board or even just the pilots.
@mattp4735
@mattp4735 Жыл бұрын
they cost 20 million dollars to acquire and about 1000 dollars an hour to use, that's why
@TwoPlusTwoEqualsFive32
@TwoPlusTwoEqualsFive32 Жыл бұрын
@@mattp4735 Comparable to the lost of income and lawsuits following an incident especially one that results in death that is not much in the grand scheme of things.
@johnpatrick1588
@johnpatrick1588 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if military pilots needed 1500 hours to fly. Plus many peacetime military pilots are lucky if they fly more than 100 hours a year. Quality of training is important.
@DavidLLambertmobile
@DavidLLambertmobile Жыл бұрын
I recall about 12yr ago, I read how a Av 🚁 Army unit that prepared to go to SW Asia, Iraq. The commanders did NOT have the pilots, crews train or practice with M9 9mm sidearms. 😒 Because who ever needs to be armed in COMBAT! Reserve & ANG units deserve better.
@JETZcorp
@JETZcorp Жыл бұрын
I'm going through my initial private pilot training now. The big thing the 1500hr requirement has done is put a TON of people into the role of being flight instructors just to get some hours. Most of them really don't have much talent for teaching and are just putting in time to check the box. That does make it a little bit cheaper to get a private license (although the plane is always the majority of the expense), but makes it harder to find or become a career instructor who really cares about teaching quality to students. Basically zero people are rich enough to just fly on their own for 1,500 hours - the plane alone costs $100-175/hr. 250 hours is doable if your finances are okay and you're reasonably dedicated to it for a long span, OR if you got interested in Bitcoin years ago.
@alirosi7381
@alirosi7381 11 ай бұрын
many countries after complete cpl you can hire in airline without any problem I think is 300 its enough or 500 hours but 1500 is just insane.
@bradv9449
@bradv9449 Жыл бұрын
Thanks John
@TheCarnivoreSoprano
@TheCarnivoreSoprano Жыл бұрын
Oh so we aren't going to talk about forced innoculation
@RichardRennes
@RichardRennes Жыл бұрын
Or how they hire based on "diversity", and not skills.
@palaceofwisdom9448
@palaceofwisdom9448 Жыл бұрын
We're supposed to pretend that never happened until their next lab concocted bug is turned loose on us. And whatever you do, don't ask why there is no investigation of the "lab leak".
@schaeffercox3158
@schaeffercox3158 Жыл бұрын
There has been no forced inoculation. there have been mandated injections of unknown substances, but no inoculation. If the injections were an inoculation that provided protection against a deadly threat, I'd take two and line my family up for four.
@rw9880
@rw9880 Жыл бұрын
As always, John makes several good points. When I got hired at a major, the class average was 3,500 hours, so it's hard for me to think that under 1,500. hrs is a good thing. Many senior pilots are concerned about a lack of airmanship with the next generation of pilots. I think most new pilots are getting their hours through paid, non Part 121 jobs, and not all hobby flying. Totally agree.. big government=bad.
@waltermh111
@waltermh111 Жыл бұрын
But we arent talking about the majors. This is just to meet regs at all. You wont get people working for a regional if they have to do 3500 hours first unless they came out of the military. But your 3500 is most likely easy because most of the mainline pilots came from military or regionals where they got most of those hours. Or they pay well enough to pay people to train. So what the majors expect is missing the point. Also, the majors expecting more than the gov proves the gov is just trying to say they are doing something to pander. The airlines already have solutions. Pilots come from gov trained jobs or from experience while flying smaller planes, and move up. The airlines also have other expectations like you must fly a certain type of plane for a certain amount of time if I remember correct, before you can be certified on another one. Like you start with 737 for 2 years before you move to another type. Making sure you become really good with something first. So while 3500 may be reasonable for a mainline, it isnt necessary or especially reasonable for regionals or especially private flying like cargo, another place pilots can get their experience before getting to flying humans around.
@rw9880
@rw9880 Жыл бұрын
@@waltermh111 The majors and regionals both can and will hire to the government minimums whenever it suits them. While not perfect, 1,500 hours at least forces a work history prior to applying to a Part 121 carrier. I doubt there are many1,500 hr hobby flyers applying now due to high cost, but reducing the minimum hrs could certainly add them to the mix.
@waltermh111
@waltermh111 Жыл бұрын
@@rw9880 First of all, they dont hire when it suits them. They hire to gov regulations because they have to. Second, the regulation does nothing to help with safety. This video points out one way it doesnt. But you act like the airlines prefer to have planes fall out of the sky. The gov isnt your friend. That said, they even made the point in the video that most of those 1500 hours isnt in real world history that would help them in real situations with the plane they will be flying. Third, there arent really anybody applying now due to high cost, as the video pointed out. Its not just hobby flyers. Anybody wanting to be a pilot will have to spend way more than they have to get a license and be hired. So it only leaves it to some wealthy people or people who are lucky enough to get a position where their flight hours can be paid, though at a minimum until some day they get enough flight hours to finally meet gov minimums. If you are in the industry, you would have seen what the airlines do on their own to improve flight safety without needing gov intervention because they dont want to kill their passengers and pilots. They dont need the gov to convince them of that. In fact, as fatigue was one possible reason for the crash that created the law, and because of the pilot shortages, airlines depending on pilots to fly overtime just to meet partial demand, having more pilots would help reduce the chance of crashes/accidents. The overregulation is causing a greater risk of issues.
Жыл бұрын
4:17 man oh man, john and his team are really smart!
@mirzaahmed6589
@mirzaahmed6589 Жыл бұрын
2:42 in 2014, first officers at regional airlines were getting paid $18 per flight hour. Poor pay was definitely an issue.
@jimlovesgina
@jimlovesgina Жыл бұрын
I wasn't interested in being forced to join a union or pay union dues in order to be a commercial pilot. The hours were not the issue for me.
@MyGoogleYoutube
@MyGoogleYoutube Жыл бұрын
Yeah - who wants to make 250k+ a year and be in a union. Total crap.
@darthhodges
@darthhodges Жыл бұрын
Milton Friedman actually used the pilot's union as an example of a union that really did improve things for pilots. But he still expressed problems with it. As the son of a (now retired) commercial pilot I can tell you that there were things the union could have fixed that everyone hated. But they didn't because they were (are) a big union, with a monthly magazine, and all the bureaucratic complexity of a big corporation or government agency.
@Jakejustaverage
@Jakejustaverage Жыл бұрын
Yup, makes sense that’s the only reason you didn’t do it.
@JayVal90
@JayVal90 Жыл бұрын
I actually have a religious issue with unions (we are forbidden from joining them). Does that mean pilots are doing a form of religious discrimination?
@towel9646
@towel9646 Жыл бұрын
Seems you skipped out on damn good pay
@lastremain7867
@lastremain7867 Жыл бұрын
1:16They should legit add that time when applying to be a cop, in order to be a cop only takes 6 months at the academy with a high school diploma and no collage degree in psychology necessary It literally takes longer to be a hair stylist then a cop that might use deadly force.
@kathydelucia123
@kathydelucia123 Жыл бұрын
Always a great story. Thank you
@delawarepilot
@delawarepilot Жыл бұрын
Glad someone is finally talking about it.
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