Sub repair

[@JoseNunez600]

you can use paint thinner and wait a while and it just comes off and u peel gently, the paint thinner works really well when removing the spider dont, be afraid of wetting the spider spray thiner around the spider alot , then wait about 5 minutes and the glue should be soft then use a flat head to get under it and remove it

[@Modzie868]

this is how I do it as well....re-wrapping a coil with the original parts intact....handmade coils are super strong, last longer than factory made coils IMHO...all my handmade coils hold up really really well too...awesome vid BTW :D

[@seamokatinas]

thanks man. Never recoiled a JL w3v model, hope it`s not using an aluminium wire like w7 etc... Biggest reason for burning coils is using too weak amps which on the heavy loads start clipping and signal is distorted. That`s why i always recommend to use 30-50% more powerful amps then subs. Like myself using ~7kw rms amp on a 4kw subs. With the right electric supply can play for ages on a full blast without any issues

[@seamokatinas]

yep you are right about bottle and yes i do it by hand, it`s only 100-200 winds per coil. Old glue comes off pretty easy, glue debonder does a good job as well

[@salazam]

very awesome video indeed! and even more awesome is that you're answering questions people are asking! Mad props for not being a jerk like some other online people!

[@RadicalMotorWorks]

Cool, wondering if I should try it on a blown sub I got left with. Couple of questions: 1. How do you determine length of wire needed for rewind? 2. Is the wire glued when you rewind it? 3. What does the multitester 3.6 measure indicate, is that ohms? 4. For a dual voice coil, does the one wire go over the other or side by side? OK, couple more than a couple questions! Thanks.

[@seamokatinas]

good job mate! you just need to keep in mind that different cones have different parameters like weight etc...That means your voice coil can be under pressure or not so efficient, but it`s better to have one working instead 2 dead ones:)

[@seamokatinas]

few reasons...1. wanted to show people that it`s possible to bring pretty much any speaker back to life 2. sometimes recones not available 3. price P.S just showing speakers can be useful before you throw them out:)

[@Malvo6820]

Wouldn't it have been better if this guy would have talked about how to recone the speaker in the tutorial instead of playing this annoying ass music?

[@JohnLeaf]

exactly lol

[@seamokatinas]

if it`s stuck don`t force to move cone up and down cos you`ll make even more damage...Just take it apart as gently as you can. As for the wire you need to measure old-burn`t one, every sub uses different, could be 22awg,24awg,26awg etc...

[@seamokatinas]

you not the only one who put them in a bin:) you would need to look for an enamelled copper wire, should find in most electrical shops

[@tubical71]

This is not *re* coning it´s re *winding* ....Very cool! Thanx for sharing!

[@trueblu8]

Nice work. Very clean and professional.

[@seamokatinas]

thanks man! usually they come off easy enough, if not u can use white-spirit or glue debonder

[@seamokatinas]

yes apply heat resistant adhesive after each layer. You can use same type glue for spider and cone. Where you start winding will be your +, where finish -

[@seamokatinas]

:) usually blown subs doesn`t work at all:) get a multimeter and try to measure resistance across + and - terminals. If you not getting any numbers even when moving cone then it`s definitely blown

[@MrBadchoice101]

@seamokatinas thank you for helping me understand. That rumor about Audiobahn using fake voice coils in their DVC subs kind of hurts my feelings to hear that about a decent company

[@seamokatinas]

honestly i don`t care what you think man. If you don`t like, don`t watch, simple as that. Thanks

[@igotyourpinx]

Also, the sub has a VERY slight rattle to it, and if you pressing the top of the sub just the slightest bit uneven, it sort of grinds. On my other subs I can push on them however and it is smooth as glass

[@Pulverrostmannen]

yeah, i had everything of that in mind here :) the motor i use in my project is very strong and thats why that speaker broke in the first place, i am very happy with the result and how the speaker sounds and i doubt it will break again, in my latest video i play with that speaker in my room and got up to allmost 130decibels :D the QTS value sounds low and VAS medium. i simply love it XD thanks for watching too!

[@seamokatinas]

thanks bro! most of the time nothing wrong with the coil formers so yes i re-use them

[@seamokatinas]

you will need a 12-14v power supply, car amplifier and a lead that would have one end with headphone jack (connect to laptop) another end RCA (goes to amplifier). If you have home amplifier that is capable to handle 2-4 ohms will be less hassle cos no separate power supply needed...

[@seamokatinas]

tape won`t work:) use contact cement for this job, apply it in a very thin layer. Apply the adhesive to both sides of the surround. If you apply the adhesive properly and get the surround back together as it should be, the speaker will be as good as new.

[@codemiesterbeats]

excellent work... I know that a sub is relatively simple in design.. I must re coil my JL w3v3 Any tips or advice? I hate to throw it away its only like 3 years old... also what is usually responsible for the out of limits condition on the coil?

[@lmadden6236]

Man, you know how many subs i threw out that you could've fixed? That's cool. Nice video.

[@seamokatinas]

if it`s a small crack then contact cement should do a job. Cone not that sensitive for a SQ, damaged surround would need a bit more accurate job

[@seamokatinas]

if parts start to come apart then your voice coil not sitting straight on the magnet, that`s causing voice coil to rub on the side of the magnet and you hear grind noise.

[@redkingrd]

wow thats amazing, u got mad skillz dude. i got a blown jl 12w1 and my coil is all tangles up inside the magnet, i wanna do exactly wat u did here, the only problem is i cant get it apart withouth damaging it, did u use anything special to loosen up the glue or did u just carefully rip it up? and how did u get the spider off too?

[@tujayking]

nice video man. how many truns and how many layers of wire did u put on the voice coil?

[@socalrunningback]

This video is a life saver!! you think there is hop for a seized sub ? I just drove all the way back home to California from South Dakota where i'm going to school just to get my subs. Come to find out one of my 12" solar baric kickers are seized. do you think there is hope to bring it back to life, and if so any tips on what kind of wire i should use for the recoil ?

[@seamokatinas]

connected to 12v power supply, price depends on how many Amps it can produce. This one is only a cheap one (some $40) cos gives only ~5A

[@seamokatinas]

thanks, i`m using a NCH tone generator for the frequencys, but i`m sure there are lots of other programs

[@MrGunmetal13]

what kind of wire did u use...did u glue every row of wire or just when u got done with one...look at threads and this is the only thing i found ..enamelled copper wire....can u jst use one kind of glue for everything wire..spider and foam? thank you...

[@seamokatinas]

exactly same as old (burnt) ones. Usually 2 layers each if it`s dual voice coil sub, and 4 layers if it`s single

[@seamokatinas]

sure it can. First thing you need to do is to check your sub terminals with multimeter to be sure 100% it`s not your amp.

[@antonhall1989]

hi there good job just wanted to know how you remove the surround? did you warm it up or somthing? i have a focal 165 k2 power and finding it hard to remove the surround without damage

[@seamokatinas]

this one was totaly dead, but you will have to do the same cos your voice coil was fried and is loose inside. That`s where the noise coming from

[@mrbeach22]

How do you tell how long to make the new coil? Thanks and awesome video

[@TheEntertainer93]

How can I regulate the wats W? to make a stronger speaker, and more difficult to burn? should i use a thicker coil, or more windings? thanks, for the great vid :)

[@seamokatinas]

usually they come off easy enough, if not u can use white-spirit or glue debonder

[@janchuaa]

nice dude, I just want to know how did you do the voice coil part?? thx =)

[@MRNOISY]

That's impressive I've never see anyone re-wynnd

[@seamokatinas]

coils are same as on most subs, not the worst not the best assembly. Could be done more work on cooling

[@seamokatinas]

if the spider is ok then it`s a bit strange, in any way you will have to remove spider with cone to investigate what`s causing the problem, 90% it will be a voice coil

[@seamokatinas]

try to push sub cone up and down without any power on it if you still getting rattling sound then it needs new voice coil

[@SaucyBegger25]

very impressed mate, great job. i love that you did it perfect too.

[@carlbenz3341]

How do you keep the wire on the coil in place, do you glue them on? greetings

[@JorgeHernandez-oq5eu]

So you wrap the new coil around the old one or strip the old one first?

[@duck198765]

hey can you tell me what you used to glue the coil together and how you glued it ?

[@mrbeach22]

What do you use to hold the coil together? Heat resistant glue or what?

[@igotyourpinx]

How could I go about fixing this, or getting it repaired? And do you do repairs for other people? If so what are your prices? Thanks.

[@seamokatinas]

thanks, new voice coil should be exactly same lenght as old one

[@weber247]

I have a pair of guitar speakers that are'nt made anymore, the one speaker has a few small tears on the surround the other was mutilated but the spider was intact and the coil was still a bright copper color, can the old coils be salvaged for reconing?

[@doc289]

you count the turns on the coil, and also measure the wire?

[@kaviahlypokito]

very good sr...how can i do to get the audio (test frequencys) you use to test the subs.there is some link or some you can help me out please..

[@MrGunmetal13]

also man jst got done taking it apart..im a bit confused as to which wire is going to be red and the other black..positvie & negative?? how do i find out which is which //thanx a lot man...

[@seamokatinas]

you`ll need to use heat resistand adhesive, apply it after every enamelled copper wire layer

[@MrBadchoice101]

through your work on audiobahns, can u confirm that myth/rummors about their Ghost Voice Coils? have u seen this or dealt with it

[@MrELKICKER]

did oyu just add new copper on top of the burned one??? plz reply

[@knocturnalnate]

U rewound But what did u use to keep the coil from coming unwound? Witch bottle? That was a great video. Thumbs up

[@capricebass12]

very good job man!! i was surprised how well you did! btw whats the name of the song?

[@seamokatinas]

usually they come off easy enough, use white-spirit or glue debonder. What do you mean ,,get the glue off of the voice coil wires,,?

[@username1229]

i have a question...i have dual 12s in my house and only one of the woofers make a rattling sound when i turn it up i was thinking it was the voice coil but im not really sure..i tried pushing the cone up and down with no power but when i do there is no rattling it only rattles when there is power going to it

[@seamokatinas]

no probs man, there will be always some idiots who say bad words about some products just cos they used them wrong and damaged

[@TheEntertainer93]

where you put the second coil? over the first?

[@johnturner1388]

What kind of wire do I use to fix my voice coil on my audiobahn just like the one in the video n what kind of glue

[@duck198765]

i more thing , i have a idmax dual 2 12 inch sub so when i recoil the first coil do i just coil the second one on top of the first ? thanks

[@altops4490]

how did you accomplish such a nice coil windage?

[@igotyourpinx]

I have a Memphis mojo 10" sub. M110D4 and the "spider" I guess you would call it, is detaching from the cone. Not completely but almost.

[@19v93i02d26as]

is the wire 2 row for 1 coil or a single ??

[@bensonak47]

what glue did you use to glue the coil?

[@wolf432]

Howd you wrap it so tight i always had an issue with that

[@tmmtmm]

um, yes there is. You don't want your shiny new coil rubbing on the magnet, or the inside of the former rubbing on the pole piece.

[@Voiceofthepeople123]

you just gave me hope on fixing my orion xtr

[@seamokatinas]

never had this sub for repairs so don`t realy know, but usually screwdriver and a little bit heat works fine:)

[@seamokatinas]

coils can be reused,but you need to get new cones

[@Arjoonmoal]

well mine seems to be quite difficult to repair, it got a dual spider, spoke grills ine the walls and very difficult to remove, but i know that it has 18 gauge awg so winding it won't be much of a trouble then, the only problem is how to glue the coil so that the glue itself will have a neglected thickness????? :S

[@seamokatinas]

hi, answer is in a previous posts. Yes hair dryer sometimes helps...

[@LowNKum]

hello, I"m trying to fix an old Kicker L7 12" The voice coil is fine, it's just the tinsel lead wires that were the problem, would like to know how to get the glue off of the cone and voice coil wires, so that I can change them for new ones.

[@davideulivi]

The wire is isolated or is a normal copper wire?

[@walterbrandon1]

What kind of wire did you use?

[@seamokatinas]

just make sure you have the right size

[@seamokatinas]

yeah bro lots and lots of patience:) any sine wave 20-60hz will do the job

[@contrerashall]

what did u use to power the amp?

[@jaytabz]

how would you know how many layers of wires to put??

[@junioramon2013]

I think my two 12dvc r blown, an there only a couple of months old, an i hate to throw them away. Where can i buy the wire for the coils, an wat type of glue do i use

[@seamokatinas]

read previous comments before asking same questions.Thanks

[@Snow.Drifter]

Awesome job!

[@iller6]

how do you wrap the coil like that?

[@johnnypril7902]

How do you get the coil off though?

[@seamokatinas]

if it`s broken-solder and glue it to the cone, if it`s not broken just glue it

[@yazzry]

man,what kind of wire did you use....

[@worksmagic89]

Hey if you press the cone of the sub in(while sub is off of course) and it makes a scrapping sound does that mean its blown

[@CobraProductionsTV]

No heat resistand coil ?

[@seamokatinas]

thanks man, i`m doing my best:) lots of people just wasting money on recones so thought my video will give another option

[@datona_nation]

but what about a dual vc wouldnt that be really hard?

[@MACcKERM]

i have a rockford fostgate t1 15'' u think it would be hard to do that to mine? nice vid big ups

[@datona_nation]

you did an awesome job but why not buy a recone?

[@supervic027]

anigaso que pegamento usas para pegar la bobina

[@yazzry]

can i use wire in a small motor in rc car....