Subcutaneous Peptide Injection

When you inject peptides like BPC 157 over the area of pain, it does not directly go to the area of tissue damage initially. The medication is absorbed by the blood vessels in the subcutaneous tissue and distributed throughout the body. Therefore, there is no difference between injecting in the abdomen versus over the area of pain when we talk about how the peptide gets to the damaged tissue.
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[@WBoy-cu1fh]

I can say injecting helped my rotator way more then oral 157.

[@DrewTimmermansND]

Yea we notice that trend in a very small subset of people, but most people won't notice a difference at all

[@chadgregory2239]

Hey mate how long until u noticed?? Got all sorts of tears and tendonosis! I've only been using injection into the belly fat for a week now can't say I've noticed anything 😢

[@SupermanBB]

Seems like a very common response from the people who have tried both oral and subcutaneous injection of BPC-157

[@conoreast1496]

Quality information, I use BPC 157 for my elbow tendinitis. I can confirm injecting sub Q into my lower belly fat had the same results as site injections. Plus it was far easier and injecting around the elbows hurts man 😂

[@DrewTimmermansND]

be careful spewing that logic!! people on the interwebs might call you a quack for saying this! 🦆🤣

[@Joes_Jitsu]

@@DrewTimmermansND what about intramuscular injections?

[@andrewprice242]

I couldn't find anyone else directly addressing this issue. Thanks for the heads up

[@DrewTimmermansND]

my pleasure

[@rhunter203]

Does the same apply to intramuscular injection?

[@themushroomwizard]

Thanks I'm one of those people who asked you and I appreciated not having to pin the neck lol

[@DrewTimmermansND]

Lol glad to hear!

[@fitteryou3685]

Thanks you. This clarified my dilemma exactly the same as you explained in this video.

[@DrewTimmermansND]

My pleasure

[@Mqx1m]

Thanks for this video! Exactly what i was looking for

[@joebest6864]

The thing is from experience of injections i have massive results injecting the area compared to not injecting the area??.injecting my stomach multiple times didnt help my knee 1 injection to the knee helped significantly.thats my look on it.

[@HomelessNinjaKennedy]

This is exactly what i was wondering. Thanks!

[@DrewTimmermansND]

My pleasure!

[@goodjuju54]

Thanks. Just the information I was looking for!

[@DrewTimmermansND]

my pleasure!

[@erikkkkkkkkk1]

I will say that from personal experience and maybe this is for just myself, when injection is inserted in the area of the inflammation/pain within minutes bpc 157 temporarily Acts as a pain relief in that location I have injected only. If tendonitis is present in both right and left arm, injection in right arm only feels 100X better for 10-15 min then left arm. Overtime it heals faster then left arm by a landslide as well. Cool thing to note, and this is for me personally could vary per subject.

[@jamesvotta1573]

Injectables are better than orals. It’s a known fact, get your facts straight.

[@dreaisluved397]

Thanks for the information because I have pain in my wrist and I was wondering how I was going to be pull that off

[@dannyoliver7936]

Did you inject into your wrist? I’m experiencing the same thing

[@dyes1300]

Hi! How well did it work on your wrist pain?

[@ToddDouglasFox]

Why not neural therapy to address congestion and “pain”? Abdomen, back, neck, and many other areas as well as scars can be addressed effectively and often simultaneously along with proper regenerative treatment for joints. There has to be a wide understanding of where to inject and when. Any synthetic nutrient(s) introduced into the body whether through injection or orally is risky and unnecessary.

[@lawrencedavis5459]

I took the oral bpc and it absolutely helped with pain in my hands and general energy levels i felt fantastic, im just getting ready to do another round by injection

[@DrewTimmermansND]

why do injection if the oral already helped you? Especially with the risk of endotoxins in the injections from online websites?

[@jibbo123]

What's a good place to buy peptides

[@Joes_Jitsu]

What about intramuscular? I have read about tingling or Nero issues. Is this a side effect?

[@kodymack4432]

What about injecting intra muscular for knee pain like a meniscus tear. Does that work the same as subcue injections

[@DrewTimmermansND]

Yes works the same. Faster absorption but based on the studies that doesn't matter.

[@anneheimking4690]

​@DrewTimmermansND I just read a study by National Library of Health (NLH) that showed intraarticular injections at the site of injury work well. Obviously this is something only highly trained Health Care practitioners can do. My question is, is there someone that would do them?

[@Lee-xl9fb]

What about taking oral capsules versus a subcutaneous injection? Whim would be best day for a tendinitis.

[@DrewTimmermansND]

We have seen the oral arginate salt work just as well as subq injections. We generally don't recommend the injectable version as this would require you to purchase BPC-157 from a research chemical website and these peptides are commonly contaminated with LPS, a bacterial endotoxin, which can cause really bad side effects. Instead of using injectable, we then recommend using an oral arginate salt. We use the BPC-157 capsules from InfiniWell as they use the arginate salt. If you want a discount code, we have one for our patients on our website regenerativeperformance.com/supplements. Once on that website, click the InfiniWell link, and then choose the product labeled 'BPC-157 Original 250mcg'. This is the version that does not have SNAC, which we find works better. As for time of day, I would do it on empty stomach after your PT or exercises that you are doing for the tendonitis

[@tuleralph6031]

Does this also apply to intra-articular?

[@maryjade1000]

How do you order a quality peptide ? Injected or oral. Ao many brands! I have ankle tendonitis

[@DrewTimmermansND]

If you are working with a physician and can get injectable BPC-157 from a compounding pharmacy, then that's great. If you aren't, then we don't recommend the injectable version as this would require you to purchase BPC-157 from a research chemical website and these peptides are commonly contaminated with LPS, a bacterial endotoxin, which can cause really bad side effects. Instead of using injectable, we then recommend using an oral arginate salt. We use the BPC-157 capsules from InfiniWell as they use the arginate salt. If you want a discount code, we have one for our patients on our website regenerativeperformance.com/supplements. Once on that website, click the InfiniWell link, and then choose the product labeled 'BPC-157 Original 250mcg'. This is the version that does not have SNAC, which we find works better.

[@advisorhunters8283]

Oral has the same effect as sub-q ??? really doc???

[@chiaricharlie6608]

It is systematic .

[@damiansalinas6392]

Thank you very much for this detailed info. Is there any other term used for reconstitution syringes? Because none of my local pharmacies have any idea what that is. Diluent syringe, sterile syringes w/ luer lock tips, and large plastic syringes are some of the terms that show up when I enter "reconstitution syringe" online but I'm not sure they're the same thing.

[@DrewTimmermansND]

It's just a larger syringe and needle. But you should be able to call your local pharmacy and ask them and they will 100% know what that is

[@damiansalinas6392]

@@DrewTimmermansND Awesome, Thanks again for the info! much appreciated

[@DrewTimmermansND]

my pleasure!

[@KelvinLee-y4f]

Thank you for sharing the info!! Do you think 157 could help for wrist (specifically TFCC and ECU) strain healing? I am thinking to try the oral form of 157 for above issue.

[@DrewTimmermansND]

yes it definitely can! We use the BPC-157 capsules from InfiniWell as they use the arginate salt. To help out, we have a 20% patient discount code on our website regenerativeperformance.com/supplements (code is RP20). Once on that website, click the InfiniWell link, and then choose the product labeled 'BPC-157 Original 250mcg'. This is the version that does not have SNAC, which we find works better. The most common starting dose we use with patients is 500mcg, once per day on an empty stomach. The time of day may not matter, but it may also be better when taken before bed. We normally have patients take BPC-157 for at least a month to determine if they see improvements, but sometimes it takes longer to see effects as tissue healing takes time. We then have patients continue on the BPC-157 for several months, and then we might trial taking them off to see if their symptoms remained improved or if they regress. If they regress, we put them back on it.

[@IlaraSantosLatinaModel]

Wow! This is news to me! I always wondered about hard to reach areas. This is huge. Thanks 🙏 for clearing this up

[@DrewTimmermansND]

My pleasure!

[@tobiaslang5720]

Hi so when I understand it right, t doesn't matter if I inject it into my stomach or at the pain (for example elbow?!) right? Thanks for your feedback

[@DrewTimmermansND]

you are correct

[@BrMg01]

My question is...I'm a jiu jitsu fighter, could I take BPC 157on daily basis or do like a cycle to help on my recoveries like 3 months, stop for a month and start another 3 months and so on....?

[@turbo3point0]

Cycle

[@kevinsutube1p528]

Can lead to tumor growth so probably not a good idea to use it outside of acute injuries

[@M0stlym3answ3ll]

@@kevinsutube1p528 There is no evidence to back that statement up. This peptide specifically, has been shown to combat cancer.

[@lanael7278]

Could you talk about increase in vascularity due to BPC157 and TB500 in unwanted areas like uterine fibroids? Is it risky to administer these peptides for women?

[@BrookeandShane]

Where’s the best source for oral bpc

[@DrewTimmermansND]

We use the BPC-157 capsules from InfiniWell as they use the arginate salt. To help out, we have a 20% patient discount code on our website regenerativeperformance.com/supplements (code is RP20). Once on that website, click the InfiniWell link, and then choose the product labeled 'BPC-157 Original 250mcg'. This is the version that does not have SNAC, which we find works better.

[@tfrost08]

Oral is not the same as any injections. I jwctions are far more effective than oral because its bypassing the liver and GI systems qhich ia gping to break down and degrade the peptide before it eveb reaches the intended area.

[@DrewTimmermansND]

Yes all of that is true, with a few exceptions. Oral BPC-157 is one of those exceptions

[@BrayoOnRumble]

@@DrewTimmermansNDwhat about oral GW1516?

[@richardhtx]

How is taking an oral medication the same as sub-Q? Doesn’t the stomach acid destroy some of the meds, and doesn’t it affect the kidneys and/or liver? Seems like injection that gets absorbed into the bloodstream would circumvent some of the digestive issues.

[@seanthegod4585]

Yes, injection is far superior. Oral bpc still has benefits, but 40 to 60% is denigrated in the stomach.

[@JaxF-q5e]

Yea I had the same question when he mentioned that 😂

[@DrewTimmermansND]

that's incorrect for the arginate salt

[@DrewTimmermansND]

I make more money by people paying my new patient fee for me to prescribe them injectable BPC-157. I make this claim because the literature supports it, and our clinical experience supports it over 7 years. We use oral in our patients

[@DrewTimmermansND]

BPC-157 is an exception because it's barely broken down in the stomach (

[@chadgregory2239]

How long taking 500mcg subq per day should i notice im on day 10 no releif yet and the site seems solid alot of ppl use them so im having trouble finding info

[@DrewTimmermansND]

Most people notice within the first month. What do you mean by the site seems 'solid'?

[@chadgregory2239]

@DrewTimmermansND sorry mate aussie slang lol!!! I meant where I order from online sorry for the confusion in through my first vile of 5mg now still yet to notice much 2 weeks in roughly, thanks so much for your reply

[@DrewTimmermansND]

Ohhhh!!! haha I thought you meant like the injection site is hard, which could be a complication!!

[@justinspike1669]

Isn’t bpc157 better if it’s near the sight?

[@DrewTimmermansND]

Nope. That's bro science

[@AnonymousUzer]

Does the oral bpc you sell help speed up labrum recovery? I already got surgery but would like to know if there's any way to speed it up

[@DrewTimmermansND]

We don't have evidence to say that it will speed up healing in labral tear or repair, but mechanistically we believe that it would

[@ALECGeoSimonian]

if taking the peptide orally, how LONG does it take to feel results? What have you seen in your practice in terms of different ailments? Thank you :)

[@DrewTimmermansND]

Most people notice results within the first 2-4 weeks. We have used this for a wide range of chronic pain conditions head to toe (too many to name!)

[@lachiemodica8283]

What is the best needle to use for SUBQ ?

[@mattr9089]

0.25x6mm

[@Phero18eighty]

Thank you. Im not great with needles, and was wondering what the smallest length needle I can use? I was hoping to go with 4-6 mm

[@mattr9089]

6mm

[@dannyoliver7936]

I have two torn wrist ligaments, if I did this where would I inject?

[@DrewTimmermansND]

Did you watch the full video? The answer lies in the video

[@mandaloin]

Is there a reason the abdomen is your go to injection site? I find less pain injecting into the fat just behind my hip, right under where my pants waistband sits. Is injecting there just as effective?

[@DrewTimmermansND]

Just as effective there! It's just easier for most people to pinch and reach their abdomen!

[@magicishappening586]

I took oral for a month and no improvement on my chronic back pain. Will injections be a better option?

[@ciaranwilliams1252]

Yes. Oral is just for gut health

[@DrewTimmermansND]

oral works for MSK as well

[@DrewTimmermansND]

We notice that a small percentage of patients who don't respond to oral will respond to injectable, but it's not a high amount. Oral works for both gut and MSK issues (despite what other people claim; we've dosed thousands at this point with oral and have seen amazing healing for MSK issues). But, injectable is gone because of the FDA, and we don't recommend buying injectable online as those research chemical websites are often contaminated with endotoxins. If you didn't respond to oral, AND you used a high quality arginate salt like InfiniWell, then you likely aren't a responder to BPC. If you didn't use the InfiniWell brand, then I would recommend trying that for a month. To help out, we have a 20% patient discount code on our website regenerativeperformance.com/supplements (code is RP20). Once on that website, click the InfiniWell link, and then choose the product labeled 'BPC-157 Original 250mcg'. This is the version that does not have SNAC, which we find works better.

[@ciaranwilliams1252]

​@@DrewTimmermansNDso whats your opinion on someone recovering from a ruptured achilles tendon. Oral or injection ?

[@DrewTimmermansND]

Before the FDA was stupid and banned this from compounding pharmacies, I would have said either (although oral is cheaper than compounded injectable). But now that the only way to get injectable is research chemical websites that are notorious for being contaminated with endotoxins, I would say oral arginate salt.

[@AJP1624]

Since BPC-157 “Enhances the Growth Hormone Receptor Expression,” do the receptors not work as well when you stop taking it? Will you build a tolerance?

[@kevinsutube1p528]

You don’t want to just continue taking it anyway. Can lead to tumor growth

[@hocestbellum3258]

Wrong

[@M0stlym3answ3ll]

I appreciate the fact and truthful science. That said, bro-science is where superstition, anecdotal-evidence based encouragement and gains-voodoo meet. It’s better bro 😎. (Also, if I understood you correctly, which I’m sure I may not have, there’s no way oral and subcutaneous efficacy are the same.)

[@TruckersCoach]

Do you have exosomes?