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7 жыл бұрын

The Hindu Right wing’s most articulate spokesperson, Subramanian Swamy, discuss his ideas about India, Hindus, Muslims, tolerance and what shaped him to become the man he is, with Shoma Chaudhury at Algebra The Arts and Ideas Club on 25 March 2017.
Contrary to popular belief, Subramanian Swamy believes that India can never become a theocratic state and that he doesn’t support the idea of Hindu supremacy. He also believes that the people who give him lectures on tolerance are the most intolerant people. On the issue of revenge and politics he says, “I only take revenge against those who misuse power against me”. He goes on to add that he will soon teach Mr. Chidambaram how to send people to jail.
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@unnitallman
@unnitallman 7 жыл бұрын
"Plurality of India is a hindu phenomenon, not a Muslim phenomenon". Swami, respect !
@OtisAdonisChad
@OtisAdonisChad 6 жыл бұрын
A J Anphel No touch with reality therefore such views. Talk of plurality within their faith. Shia vs Sunni? Do they tolerate each other? :) The least of all the Hindus. It is the Christian who would be more attracted towards Hinduism and basic tenets of Christianity have the basis of dignity and love and truth (if not the ultimate truth) and helps them practically to live as more accommodating human beings. Example United States of America (especially). If you ignore the religious expansionists within Christians and their capitalist driven foreign policies. You can still hope to have interfaith dialogue with Christians for example. The Christian world stands by and protects Israel. Not the Muslim. That's not merely politics but a decision of faith.
@JC-yo5tx
@JC-yo5tx 6 жыл бұрын
There are plenty of Hindus happily living, studying and working in Dubai and Western countries. Is plurality only an Indian concept? Widen your thought process
@OtisAdonisChad
@OtisAdonisChad 6 жыл бұрын
J C What about practising faith and legally recognising. No sir! No Muslim country will legitimise Hinduism. Sorry. Stop pretending about Secular Islam. Secularism is a personal trait. But still where is the legitimising of Hindu faith via constitutions in Muslim countries? Which religions do they legitimise?
@muraligopal212
@muraligopal212 5 жыл бұрын
Sharvin Shelke What do you mean Hindus like him?
@manjulashanmugasundaram706
@manjulashanmugasundaram706 5 жыл бұрын
The plurality of India is an Indian phenomenon, not an Aryan phenomenon.
@RPF3
@RPF3 6 жыл бұрын
Plurality of India is a Hindu phenomenon. 👏👏👏
@abhiramaravindrakumar1657
@abhiramaravindrakumar1657 5 жыл бұрын
Naveen Kumar.. look at her she says she perhaps accepts that (she’s mumbling with great difficulty to accept those words). She cuts him when he states fact! Selective journalism! Not at journalism of plurality!
@rationalguy1
@rationalguy1 5 жыл бұрын
Read what was done to jains and buddhists by Hindu.Kings when they were not killing each other or making Dalits collect their shit
@gvbhnnnnnnhh
@gvbhnnnnnnhh 4 жыл бұрын
@@rationalguy1 lol you just first go and learn what actually happened from good sources not those adulterated ones which commie historians produce.
@chandanpal5140
@chandanpal5140 Жыл бұрын
Asoka was a buddhist King , 8 years before Kalinga war he shifted to Buddhism. This is the fact that nobody knows...
@chandanpal5140
@chandanpal5140 Жыл бұрын
@@rationalguy1 Asoka was a buddhist King , 8 years before Kalinga war he shifted to Buddhism. This is the fact that nobody knows...
@aftabjavedgoraya7176
@aftabjavedgoraya7176 4 жыл бұрын
I am a Pakistani and a Muslim, but I agree with his stance over Babri Mosque. If the government of India offered the Muslims a separate place for mosque they should have happily agreed.
@truetool
@truetool 4 жыл бұрын
This offer has been made several times but the All India Muslim Personal Law Board rejected it.0
@NSh23
@NSh23 4 жыл бұрын
Ooh Pakistani bhai, 1000s of temples were broken during the 1989 kashmir genocide. Muslims were asked to pre on these temples. So please don't tell us what to do in India. please ask why so many temples were broken and hindu women and kids raped. and after the verdict a 5 acre land has been allotted for Babri Masjid. THIS WOULD HAVE NEVER HAVE HAPPENED IN PAKISTAN RIGHT?
@NSh23
@NSh23 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/eWm4o4uVZteejKM
@shivamchopra4130
@shivamchopra4130 4 жыл бұрын
Dear Neha, I believe you have misinterpreted what Aftab said and gone ahead with an emotional rant. From what I can gather, whatever he said is in good spirit. All of us, Muslims Hindus Pakistanis Indians, everybody needs to calm down not let our barbaric history dictate our sense of reasoning. Peace. 🙂
@jilesh22
@jilesh22 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry to say but persons like neha can see only black and white, not in color or even shades of grey
@shubhamdubey7953
@shubhamdubey7953 4 жыл бұрын
"You must visit him in Tihar when he goes there very soon" This line of Dr. Swamy will be remembered for very long time..
@himadrisankardas8739
@himadrisankardas8739 3 жыл бұрын
&he went to tihar 😂
@_sayan_roy_
@_sayan_roy_ 3 жыл бұрын
Actually I liked this line better and I'm paraphrasing probably - " He misused his power to send me to jail and he failed. I'm going to teach him soon how to send someone to jail".
@HinduLifestyle
@HinduLifestyle 7 жыл бұрын
My favourite line: the plurality of India is a Hindu phenomenon, not a Muslim one.
@indianmilitary
@indianmilitary 7 жыл бұрын
commie hypocrites know that !!
@johneli495
@johneli495 7 жыл бұрын
Hindu Lifestyle ...pluralism and castism are incompatible. Nice try to prop up a backwards religion
@HinduLifestyle
@HinduLifestyle 7 жыл бұрын
John Eli Hello Sir. I see in your one comment you want to denigrate an entire group who identify as Hindus and call us all backwards. What is backwards is your elitist attitude.
@adityatyagi4009
@adityatyagi4009 7 жыл бұрын
So-called "casteism" is a non-Hindu ideology forced upon Hindus and Hinduism. The authentic varna system is fully compatible with pluralism and other Hindu philosophy. Try again.
@arunjetli7909
@arunjetli7909 7 жыл бұрын
Buddhists are hindus
@suyashgarg4005
@suyashgarg4005 7 жыл бұрын
Asoka fought the Kalinga War in 261 BC. Shoma Chaudhary calls it a "Medieval" violence :)
@akashsinha099
@akashsinha099 6 жыл бұрын
Suyash Garg Such a person is so called an #intellectual. You can imagine what this country suffered from when such are propping up in the country
@komal29275
@komal29275 5 жыл бұрын
BC Shoma ;D
@kumudbartwal
@kumudbartwal 5 жыл бұрын
And Ashoka fought an Army. Medieval Invaders massacared the general populace indiscriminately.
@Blackfire970
@Blackfire970 5 жыл бұрын
Perfect second he fight wars with soldiers he never massacred common citizens
@DipakBose-bq1vv
@DipakBose-bq1vv 5 жыл бұрын
For India, 261 BC is late Medieval or even Modern era, as the Indian history starts in 12000 BC, after the last ice age. According to Manu, Indian civilization starts 72000 years ago.
@jack123456789cool
@jack123456789cool 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent Debate !! Plurality is a Hindu Phenomenon 👏
@chandanpal5140
@chandanpal5140 Жыл бұрын
Asoka was a buddhist King , 8 years before Kalinga war he shifted to Buddhism. This is the fact that nobody knows...
@rakeshsaha7261
@rakeshsaha7261 5 жыл бұрын
you cant win in debate with this person as he tells the truth with facts and logic and less outrage .
@rahulkaulvakil
@rahulkaulvakil 6 жыл бұрын
You don't even need to look to Pakistan. Look in Kashmir. We are living away from our ancestral homes.
@farhanasim8018
@farhanasim8018 6 жыл бұрын
He's an impressive orator with an unmatched personality like none. In my opinion, he should have been the Finance Minister of our Nation. He deserves that.
@user-hs8ui2yl9g
@user-hs8ui2yl9g 4 жыл бұрын
ज़िद्दी है अमित और मोदी को बाते जमेगी नहीं इनकी
@smitaswarup8562
@smitaswarup8562 3 жыл бұрын
There have been problems. Both have to work to resolve them peacefully kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKaplIVtg7WkjNE Jai Hind, ek dusre ko nigal jaoge and Chinese will invade, please
@sudhanshuswami2304
@sudhanshuswami2304 3 жыл бұрын
He cant be in any Team, he is self guided missile, can attack anyone ! This is because of him Modi is in power ! (his efforts to bring Congress in courts and exposing corruption) and also somewhat Baba Ramdev's indirect support ! and now Both of these are mysteriously ignored by Modi and Amit Shah ! I am huge fan of Modi, but Swamy is my imperfect Hero !
@tomriddle4110
@tomriddle4110 3 жыл бұрын
@@sudhanshuswami2304 very true. I wished he would be our finance minister but I can’t forget how he was with Jayalalithaa when Vajpayee lost his government
@nayakarma3839
@nayakarma3839 3 жыл бұрын
He is very revengeful, arrogant, book knowledge, weird, unpredictable, not loyal. no one wants him to give any power. he is good for this kind of a few hours crap.
@anilmishra5947
@anilmishra5947 4 жыл бұрын
She was like , Let's move on to the next topic because I'm starting to get exposed.
@yumikotanashi
@yumikotanashi 3 жыл бұрын
Haha right!
@mostpassiveuser8904
@mostpassiveuser8904 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I noticed that too. Still she was mostly respectful and fair.
@rupaknagar
@rupaknagar 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@kumargaurav8695
@kumargaurav8695 2 жыл бұрын
All communist do that
@nagavaraprasad18
@nagavaraprasad18 2 жыл бұрын
exactly
@rbyogin3614
@rbyogin3614 5 жыл бұрын
Which islamic country advocate secularism, democracy, and pluralism...???
@UMESHPILANIA
@UMESHPILANIA 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know any till now
@aayushkc8795
@aayushkc8795 3 жыл бұрын
Hey you all educated fool they donot want muslim rule in india the epitome of indias greatness is shrinking. They just want the equality representation they couldnot get in other countries. But what radicialism leads to muslim countries can reflect. And learn about turkey it may answer some of your disagreements and bullshit questions.
@nayakarma3839
@nayakarma3839 3 жыл бұрын
Bangladesh, Indonesia
@tulasiprasad79
@tulasiprasad79 3 жыл бұрын
@@aayushkc8795 Didnt turkey revert the Sophia Hague into a mosque? Turkey may not be a good example my friend.
@SuperFatafati
@SuperFatafati 2 жыл бұрын
@@nayakarma3839 Bangladesh is an islamic republic not a secular one.
@prakashs31
@prakashs31 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know whether temples demolished or not...but today the anchor got literally demolished...happy to see that
@RahulKumar-ng2gh
@RahulKumar-ng2gh 5 жыл бұрын
Prakash S it's her metoo moment
@internetkhurak8983
@internetkhurak8983 5 жыл бұрын
Yes they were
@sansubr19
@sansubr19 4 жыл бұрын
If you don't know whether temples were demolished or not, please go back and read some history sir. Over 75,000 temples were demolished by Jihadi filth in our country. Today, Church is illegally occupying land of people and temples and building whatever they want. Both Islamic and Christian Jihadis have only destroyed culture, murdered people and split communities in the name of their religion by spreading false propaganda or by force. Periyarism in Tamil Nadu is a clear example of a living model of Christian destruction of society.
@mailamitd1
@mailamitd1 7 жыл бұрын
one of the best of Dr. Swamy's interviews. Similar to one where he answered students of NYU.
@yogvira.mobility
@yogvira.mobility 5 жыл бұрын
Could you please share the link of the video
@chandanpal5140
@chandanpal5140 Жыл бұрын
Asoka was a buddhist King , 8 years before Kalinga war he shifted to Buddhism. This is the fact that nobody knows...
@tarunlagudu1956
@tarunlagudu1956 5 жыл бұрын
People often talk about the plight of the minorities in the country. But, very little discussion goes into how the majority community is equally victimized.
@chalasaniteja3386
@chalasaniteja3386 5 жыл бұрын
What a man. Inspiration for my life. Such a clarity on what he is doing. Love and respect sir.
@manpy5504
@manpy5504 7 жыл бұрын
We support Swamy iam sardar we support u sir u r most intellectual person in whole India and a man who takes birth once in 1000 yrs.
@areeshj
@areeshj 5 жыл бұрын
then watch Shashi Tharoor a 1000 times smarter than this luni.
@createded
@createded 5 жыл бұрын
@@areeshj pls go back to the jungal
@chandanpal5140
@chandanpal5140 Жыл бұрын
Asoka was a buddhist King , 8 years before Kalinga war he shifted to Buddhism. This is the fact that nobody knows...
@Gamers.Bharat
@Gamers.Bharat 7 жыл бұрын
Bharat stands with Swamy ji
@anilkumarputhran5300
@anilkumarputhran5300 5 жыл бұрын
Hindustan not bharath
@gvbhnnnnnnhh
@gvbhnnnnnnhh 4 жыл бұрын
@@anilkumarputhran5300 Hindustan is the name given to us by the invaders. Even India was first used by greeks
@narutohenaruto
@narutohenaruto 2 жыл бұрын
@@anilkumarputhran5300 Hindustan is not an original name. We are BHARATHA.
@chandanpal5140
@chandanpal5140 Жыл бұрын
Asoka was a buddhist King , 8 years before Kalinga war he shifted to Buddhism. This is the fact that nobody knows...
@adventureisland7049
@adventureisland7049 4 жыл бұрын
"u must visit him in tihar when goes there very soon" Chidambaram felt the burn!
@sirjohnpiraan1662
@sirjohnpiraan1662 5 жыл бұрын
Kingmaker Swamy! Proud Indian we need you now more than ever sir.
@satadhi
@satadhi 5 жыл бұрын
phd in Harvard at the age of 24 ! that is some sick achievement
@manikanth2166
@manikanth2166 7 жыл бұрын
Whenever the speaker felt her argument would be demolished, she's ending the conversation with "Let's move away". Swamy must be really gracious let her end that way. Else he would have smacked her with his arguments.
@surya316
@surya316 7 жыл бұрын
I guess you were watching a different video than what the rest of us saw.
@rakeshr4639
@rakeshr4639 7 жыл бұрын
Whenever the speaker felt her argument would be demolished, she's ending the conversation with "Let's move away". Swamy must be really gracious let her end that way. Else he would have smacked her with his arguments.
@surya316
@surya316 7 жыл бұрын
Copy pasting the same reply under different names doesnt help you much .. does it?
@rudrarishi2523
@rudrarishi2523 5 жыл бұрын
@Mani Kanth Excellent observation
@shinytan
@shinytan 5 жыл бұрын
surya316 You okay? Cause you not making sense...
@LeanPrimal
@LeanPrimal 5 жыл бұрын
That women got schooled so hardcore 😂 she must have had sleepless nights remembering Swamy
@Theams1111
@Theams1111 5 жыл бұрын
Swamy rockzzz....what a clarity in his stand!!!..tearing apart one of the pressttitutes.....
@AdityaKadamMechanical
@AdityaKadamMechanical 6 жыл бұрын
Shoma Chaudhury is not able to bring the intellect of Swamy in conversation. She is asking the same kind of Hindu Muslim type questions. Waste of time because of her :(
@raknaskihtrak8266
@raknaskihtrak8266 4 жыл бұрын
She seems to be doing this to everyone she interviews ,
@MoviesInAminute.
@MoviesInAminute. 5 жыл бұрын
She is moving away Everytime swamy leaving her speechless
@cjshekhar
@cjshekhar 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah she says she is not biased but she is clearly inclined
@sunny0108841
@sunny0108841 4 жыл бұрын
so true..
@shivagill3133
@shivagill3133 4 жыл бұрын
Every so called intellectual does same
@fairwind3058
@fairwind3058 4 жыл бұрын
He was a guest. She was graciously giving him the pass many times. Shoma Chaudhry is what westerners envy in an Indian woman
@fairwind3058
@fairwind3058 4 жыл бұрын
@Adam LB Swamy had a problem with his Dad.
@user-nv8nd6gt8v
@user-nv8nd6gt8v 5 жыл бұрын
Everytime, When this arrogant lady got blown away, she quickly said let's move on. This is the reality of these so called intellectuals and journalists like barkha dutt and many more.
@shreyasb7163
@shreyasb7163 5 жыл бұрын
Interviewers favorite line "we will move away", Everytime Dr swamy leaves the crowd cheering
@keanu971
@keanu971 6 жыл бұрын
i lived in malapuram wen i was small , kerala.i experienced what swamy says,night time theyy throws rocks at our house and many times my dad has to go outsside and shout at them,kill snakes and hang on our way path,finally we had to leave our house and disstrict, but we dont play victim card
@Anoop8383
@Anoop8383 6 жыл бұрын
I am also from malappuram . I thought it was only agaist with us whole area some way other facing the humiliation.
@ashokkumarsaripalle2256
@ashokkumarsaripalle2256 6 жыл бұрын
Yes brother it is correct
@skylark5249
@skylark5249 6 жыл бұрын
Vote for BJP so we have someone to fight our battles. Dont be afraid of being called a Sanghi. If you are then there is still hope. You can support RSS and BJP covertly by funding and social media awakening of Hindu Mallus.
@OtisAdonisChad
@OtisAdonisChad 6 жыл бұрын
Skylark Remember to do it legally. And via open protests and involving Western press or rubbing it in their face. People like Obama have warned Modi about so called Hindu supremacy or Hindu nationalism and the deep state within USA or other Western media won't leave an opportunity to invade India with help of China if Hindus take law in their hand. Use Gandhi's way to defeat the Muslim aggression in India forever. We are lucky we have strong gun laws in country else the wet would have burned with the dry. By that I mean innocent and peace loving Hindu and Muslims. Not the radical factions.
@raviojha8219
@raviojha8219 5 жыл бұрын
Brother raise your voice , we always tolerated these incidents.we all are with you.
@Bhavik630
@Bhavik630 7 жыл бұрын
Look at the body language of the lady. She clearly is upset whereas Swamy is cool as a cucumber.
@sansubr19
@sansubr19 6 жыл бұрын
Most hard core liberals get upset very quickly because their judgement and knowledge is built from emotions instead of logic and intelligence which are attributes of a sensible human being.
@forever-fz1hk
@forever-fz1hk 5 жыл бұрын
Iam looking at it bro❤️❤️❤️🤣🤣🤣🤣
@areeshj
@areeshj 5 жыл бұрын
Santosh Subramanian talking about emotions god doesn't exist its a belief. Humans have come from evolution, its the environment that shapes you along the way, you wouldn't know cause of how closed minded you are. We may be sensitive to you but it's being open-minded and believing in equality, not "cow-wards". talking about logic and intelligence really how pathetic that you believe your view is the only one that's smart. just shows your intelligence.
@gvbhnnnnnnhh
@gvbhnnnnnnhh 4 жыл бұрын
@@areeshj just read his comment again clearly you didn't understand what he wrote. And also he wrote most hard core liberals he didn't wrote all hard core liberals and just because of this you lost your marbels. Thank you for proving his point.
@areeshj
@areeshj 4 жыл бұрын
@@gvbhnnnnnnhh lol I dont understand look at the state of the economy, the minorities, everyone been put into jail exept for these goons. I am not sure you dont understand anything cause your just part of the herd. or your a hindu extremest whcih is even worse. so either uneducated unaware or naive whichever one it is i pitty you.
@shivamdabas6672
@shivamdabas6672 5 жыл бұрын
Swamy ji.. U can destroy anyone 😁😂😂😂 u make interview very entertaining
@empressshalini
@empressshalini 4 жыл бұрын
She was so scared and insecure to even allow Mr Swamy to give finishing statements. Now that's called Hinduphobia
@yumikotanashi
@yumikotanashi 3 жыл бұрын
@Carol Peter So true. Her not so pearly white will be hidden all the while if she is talking to a muslim here she's being smart cause she has no such fear. Ironic that the freedom of Hinduism has given them the balls to speak against it.
@smitaswarup8562
@smitaswarup8562 3 жыл бұрын
He can't even get on with his own daughter. She does not accept his intolerant crazy views. You like this man? Modi left his wife and his mother? This is Indian culture? he wears expensive clothes and changes them 10 times a day? You like such men? Wow. You must be teaching your children to be like this too. Wow. what a legacy....wow..
@empressshalini
@empressshalini 3 жыл бұрын
@@smitaswarup8562 Of course I'm proud of Modi . He is a great leader and so is Mr Subramanyam . I love both of them. I don't mind whether he changes dress 10 times a day or 100 times a day. They are doing great work and that is what matters. These guys folllow Sanatana Dharma and culture of our nation with great pride. I'm proud of that as well. You can keep your opinion and let me keep mine.
@satyampandey2222
@satyampandey2222 3 жыл бұрын
@@smitaswarup8562 what if his daughter is a leftist too? and his views are anything but intolerant. Modi JI loves his mom and that's all that's important. His wife is his private matter where's privacy? wearing expensive clothes does not mean anything, you have a very rudimentary view of judging people
@smitaswarup8562
@smitaswarup8562 3 жыл бұрын
@@satyampandey2222 You think Ram liked criminals. He went to banwas like Nehru. Ram 14 sale aur Nehru 10 sal se zyada. Mere father bhi gaye for independence. These criminals like Gowlakar and Savarkar and now yourcurrent people are all haters. Yeh tram Rajya nahi hai. Ram did not teach this, kuch bhi keh lo. Main nahi manti. I think Ram would make all of you vultures, stones, lizards and crows in your next life. Not even a lion. def not a lion.
@Ladisingh9
@Ladisingh9 6 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite speaker
@amitpurohit7737
@amitpurohit7737 7 жыл бұрын
Anybody could see that she was getting her arguments on her cell phone, probably, from a team of experts in the backroom. Despite 1 Swamy against a team of arguers he crushed her on several issues. Every time she lost an argument she changed the topic by saying time is less. Then, passed a judgement without giving him a chance to respond and covered it with next question to look smart. Throughout the discussion she kept interrupting and in the end even made a stupid comment and arrogantly said she won't give him last word...one of the worst hosting I have ever seen. Nobody ends a discussion like this...truly shameful. This just shows that despite having numbers by their side, they were so scared of Swamy. This man is truly an army in himself.
@kalpathyrama
@kalpathyrama 6 жыл бұрын
Worst way2 wind up a talk don't ever act anti Democratic like a typical communist
@rexruthor5526
@rexruthor5526 6 жыл бұрын
Noticed this too. Was about to comment but checked the comments section. 👌
@rexruthor5526
@rexruthor5526 6 жыл бұрын
sheldon pereira its a pity that peiple think well articulated english and conceited smirks proves intellectual superiority.
@mathewmurdock5354
@mathewmurdock5354 5 жыл бұрын
The way she ended the show was hilarious. It's like she knew she's lost and wanted to end the match fast and go play with another player.
@Sathia_Remix
@Sathia_Remix 5 жыл бұрын
@john doe the only command she had was only over the ways she tiptoed with merely decent language. The method was there lacking direction and mission. But the master was there to see. All replies were based on facts and evidence and no electronic/digital support while she had such advantage. Wherever she turned she was ambushed by the evidence and chronology based principle. As evidently (if not in this video - in another session) Owaisi a muslim (? islamic) spokesman had apparently mentioned that he was scared of this "highly-articulate" Dr Swami and that they would happily face the screaming and trident waving fanatic hindu. Dr Swami is clear in his mission, direction and methods - I would conclude that till two years back, I was sceptical about his politics (one man party without cadre - but that's what happens to true professionals); he has circumvented that with his tenacity to go the legal ways - all the way - even if it is revenge -sicilian or nonsicilian - until the end - till the wrong is slain.
@shivanandmeti4473
@shivanandmeti4473 4 жыл бұрын
1:01:42 ....chidambaram is in Jail now...what a confident prediction ..Swamy Rocks
@smitaswarup8562
@smitaswarup8562 3 жыл бұрын
There have been problems. Both have to work to resolve them peacefully kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKaplIVtg7WkjNE Jai Hind, ek dusre ko nigal jaoge and Chinese will invade, please
@sudarshanbs8513
@sudarshanbs8513 3 жыл бұрын
This Smita swaroop, is a juvenile mouth who doesn't realise the right. She unfit to talk about two greats of India.
@YogeshKumar-qs6te
@YogeshKumar-qs6te 3 жыл бұрын
@@sudarshanbs8513 Is she a Smita Swaroop? I am sorry for this silly question, I am just unaware of her
@Purple_Neon
@Purple_Neon 3 жыл бұрын
@@YogeshKumar-qs6te nope, I guess Smita swarup’s KZbin account got suspended or she must have deleted her KZbin comments. She is fighting very hard in all the reply comments section 😂
@YogeshKumar-qs6te
@YogeshKumar-qs6te 3 жыл бұрын
@@Purple_Neon 😂
@nidheessingh
@nidheessingh 5 жыл бұрын
Well responded by Dr. Shubramanyam Swami
@PseudoProphet
@PseudoProphet 5 жыл бұрын
People including Dr. Swami think, that India remained 80% Hindu after 1000 years under Islam, but that's not true, people in Bangladesh, Pakistan and Afghanistan we're also Hindus, let alone all the people in the entire South East Asia, they were also mostly Hindus. I'd say that 65% converted and we're the remaining 35%. We survived just because we were closer to home.
@vrishikantak12
@vrishikantak12 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@gl4834
@gl4834 5 жыл бұрын
Very true
@kanikatyagi8957
@kanikatyagi8957 5 жыл бұрын
True
@factsoverfeelings3110
@factsoverfeelings3110 5 жыл бұрын
Pseudo Prophet this makes me so sad. Is there no way out?
@shanthakumar7184
@shanthakumar7184 5 жыл бұрын
Pseudo Prophet o
@utbond25
@utbond25 6 жыл бұрын
This man is just superb, thug life😎😎😎😎😎
@smitaswarup8562
@smitaswarup8562 3 жыл бұрын
There have been problems. Both have to work to resolve them peacefully kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKaplIVtg7WkjNE Jai Hind, ek dusre ko nigal jaoge and Chinese will invade, please
@hyd916
@hyd916 3 жыл бұрын
I COULDN'T AGREE MORE. HE IS A VERY SPITEFUL MAN.
@hlr3932
@hlr3932 4 жыл бұрын
Religion is a private affair?.? Then can she tell them not to scream 5 times every day.
@rangeslider
@rangeslider 4 жыл бұрын
My cousin sister bought a house for ~1.2 Cr & then had to sell it after just a few months because she was ABSOLUTELY wrong when she thought she could tolerate the nearby mosque freakin 5 times a day!
@abhyudaysinghparmar6055
@abhyudaysinghparmar6055 4 жыл бұрын
Allah o budbak
@abdulmuhithsyed1787
@abdulmuhithsyed1787 4 жыл бұрын
I think you need to be brought to speed about this issue being declared unlawful by the courts already. It is unlawful to use speakers not just for mosques but also for temples trying to chant to the world around. But then, again bigotry isnt going to let you address that does it ?
@sachinbk1347
@sachinbk1347 4 жыл бұрын
@@abdulmuhithsyed1787 Absolutely,but in the same vein a famous singer named Sonu Nigam had tweeted against Azan,he had also tweeted against loud speakers being used during Ganapati festival,but ppl from one community picked out only the Azan part and relentlessly attacked him,called him Islamophobe, released fatwas against him and is being attacked online even to this day,but I guess you will not have anything to say abt this my bigotry mirroring friend.
@abdulmuhithsyed1787
@abdulmuhithsyed1787 4 жыл бұрын
@@sachinbk1347 , i dont agree with them. I believe his objection was only towards use of loud speakers. Which is fair.
@shubhwilliams750
@shubhwilliams750 5 жыл бұрын
How about making a biopic on Subramaniyam Swami. It would be rocking.
@abhilaashathreya763
@abhilaashathreya763 4 жыл бұрын
It will be killer
@navneet9630
@navneet9630 4 жыл бұрын
Shubh Williams it would be a 5hour movie or just something in 3 parts
@niranjanda6111
@niranjanda6111 4 жыл бұрын
Then more people would get to know of swami , the Hindu crusader and youngsters in this generation instead of being attracted to this fancy movie stars would start getting attracted , learn and follow this great person
@rrrlovebuddy
@rrrlovebuddy 4 жыл бұрын
It's almost impossible to portray his charisma, energy and intellect on screen with just the perfect amount of wittiness here and there. Swami is out of this world.
@TheVicktor30
@TheVicktor30 4 жыл бұрын
He would get the producers and director to the court for editing out information, and using money from undeclared sources 😆😁 😂 ..... a web/tv series would be great! it has so much to cover.😵
@tejastorawane8349
@tejastorawane8349 5 жыл бұрын
Swamy nailed it like a bosssss
@theseeker3141
@theseeker3141 7 жыл бұрын
Shoma ended it so miserably and expects that her guest will accept her invite again , only to listen to her personal views. She is too optimistic about herself. Subramaniam Swamy rocks.
@mastermaster5602
@mastermaster5602 4 жыл бұрын
This lady is terrible, but swami Ji is such a great 👍🏻 person . What a knowledge , bold and beautiful... Hats off.
@ashuuvatikaa
@ashuuvatikaa 4 жыл бұрын
What a great man he his...true genius...may God bless him... and live long
@chandanpal5140
@chandanpal5140 Жыл бұрын
Asoka was a buddhist King , 8 years before Kalinga war he shifted to Buddhism. This is the fact that nobody knows...
@SS-dp7nu
@SS-dp7nu 5 жыл бұрын
The most admired BJP leader...He speaks with so much clarity..BJP is blessed to have such knowledgeable leader...Sir now should convince Modiji to make u the minister
@chandanpal5140
@chandanpal5140 Жыл бұрын
Asoka was a buddhist King , 8 years before Kalinga war he shifted to Buddhism. This is the fact that nobody knows...
@rlakshmay
@rlakshmay 6 жыл бұрын
Dr Swamy is great !. I think now is the time for NAMO to make him HM and FM
@somankanchan3266
@somankanchan3266 5 жыл бұрын
that was 'the'( condition) wish some voted for Modi ji in 2014, but it was a huge disappointment
@urwithmi
@urwithmi 5 жыл бұрын
We needs more subramaniam swamys.
@gvbhnnnnnnhh
@gvbhnnnnnnhh 4 жыл бұрын
Dr Swamy was spot on with his answers.
@josephdmello2851
@josephdmello2851 7 жыл бұрын
Mr. Bahamanian swamy is absolutely correct, he is wise, a great leader and a loyal warier for the the true Indian land , and the interviewer is a bigot swayed my the left media, keep celebrating our land Mr swammy you are a true warier for our land India vande matheram
@himdude9637
@himdude9637 6 жыл бұрын
joseph d'mello Sir salute to you. I agree with you. I am also follower of Mr Swamy.
@himdude9637
@himdude9637 6 жыл бұрын
His policy and vision must be implemented in our country
@chandrasekhar00721
@chandrasekhar00721 5 жыл бұрын
He is not bahamanian he is subrahmanian
@pvajit1109
@pvajit1109 5 жыл бұрын
Shoma Chaudhury is Bengali. Less on intellectual capital more on indoctrinated leftist stupidity. She is one of those pseudo intellectual secular the ex army chief has aptly baptized collectively as Presstitutes.
@anilkumarputhran5300
@anilkumarputhran5300 5 жыл бұрын
Typo bro typo
@vishnuar07
@vishnuar07 6 жыл бұрын
the lady is in love with her own voice it seems. and pitty on those people who were cheering for the folly arguments this hypocite is making..
@MrXperx
@MrXperx 5 жыл бұрын
Ashoka was not fighting holy wars before he converted to Buddhism.
@geneveweil2938
@geneveweil2938 4 жыл бұрын
Such a great intellectual, ones of the greatest minds of our country being interviewed by such a floozy pseudo journalist???
@hanurang5309
@hanurang5309 5 жыл бұрын
Why waste Dr. Swamy's time for mere Q&A ? Don't invite him just to answer your questions. instead debate him if you have guts.
@chiman7435
@chiman7435 4 жыл бұрын
Thanx this lady which give us so much clarity. I love all hypocrite journalists so we can defect with facts
@nikhilbhatt8613
@nikhilbhatt8613 3 жыл бұрын
They don't deserve to debate with swamy,
@uka0002
@uka0002 7 жыл бұрын
Dr swamy the ambassador of the truthfulness
@abhiramaravindrakumar1657
@abhiramaravindrakumar1657 5 жыл бұрын
Uday K seriously brutally honest
@rrajeshbarde9070
@rrajeshbarde9070 4 жыл бұрын
Why almost all journalists are either anti hindu or pro non Hindu?
@AjeetPratapSingh-ts9wo
@AjeetPratapSingh-ts9wo 3 жыл бұрын
Because they are getting money. They are spineless people
@anindyasundar1827
@anindyasundar1827 3 жыл бұрын
Do you know who she is? She is Suhasini Haider, Editor, 'The Hindu'. And the other identity is she is dr. Swami's elder Daughter.
@anindyasundar1827
@anindyasundar1827 3 жыл бұрын
@Sg C yes, u r right.. i recognised her as Suhasini Haider, which was wrong.
@manojkumarbiswas2
@manojkumarbiswas2 3 жыл бұрын
@Sg C correct .otherwise you will also become an intolerant follower of another self styled prophet
@hemantrix
@hemantrix 3 жыл бұрын
Direct Vatican Funding, Hadith Money, Psedu NGO, Fame 🧟🧟🧟
@maheshchalva1796
@maheshchalva1796 5 жыл бұрын
Ambedkar was a true statesman and a visionary ,haď the leaders of then agreed to population swap, India of today would have been very different.
@AvadhootDandekar
@AvadhootDandekar 6 жыл бұрын
One hour 32 minutes and 16 seconds, it is such a beautiful conversation. As usual Dr. Swamy is absolutely brilliant. People call him Superman Swamy. I always lovingly call him Sambuddha Swamy. Thanks :)
@balaji1980
@balaji1980 6 жыл бұрын
49:55, the anchor talks about king Ashoka, and says he massacred Hindus. That's an oversimplified statement. King Ashoka saw the dead bodies of soldiers on the battlefield and then started thinking about the horrors of war. He did not massacre civilians. An army-vs-army war is not counted as inhuman or barbaric. And that's the difference between Ashoka and the foreign invaders who attacked India. The invaders would indulge in atrocities against civilians and would commit arson - destroying temples, universities, libraries, and even entire cities. The invaders would selectively target Hindus. I have not heard of Ashoka targeting civilians or their properties just because they followed a particular religion. So, don't downplay the barbarism of the invaders by saying "medieval violence is just medieval violence". That is the typical leftist-commie narrative about Indian history.
@thisisanewusername4662
@thisisanewusername4662 4 жыл бұрын
Well put
@yumikotanashi
@yumikotanashi 3 жыл бұрын
Very well put Leftist are a full blown set of clowns who cover their ears when it comes to hindu rights
@yumikotanashi
@yumikotanashi 3 жыл бұрын
@devendra patra exactly She needs to be shown her place
@sanjunair6385
@sanjunair6385 3 жыл бұрын
Good observation
@smitaswarup8562
@smitaswarup8562 3 жыл бұрын
There have been problems. Both have to work to resolve them peacefully kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKaplIVtg7WkjNE Jai Hind, ek dusre ko nigal jaoge and Chinese will invade, please
@laquica3255
@laquica3255 3 жыл бұрын
Everyday I learn something new from this man. His intellect is astounding.
@RojaJaneman
@RojaJaneman 2 жыл бұрын
J Sai Deepak is like his chela
@OnlyWWW
@OnlyWWW 2 жыл бұрын
Finally, "Algebra Conversation" Led to "Praayashchit" of Media...
@tradequick1
@tradequick1 7 жыл бұрын
Swamy is Swamy..Always upfront & to the point. Great!!!
@naziali7400
@naziali7400 7 жыл бұрын
hindu what is this shit never aherd about this crap what is it?
@satkritk
@satkritk 6 жыл бұрын
Mohamed Sharffudin since you ask.. there never was a baby born with an elephant head. He had a normal human form before the story of him stalling lord shiva from entering his own home on his mother's instructions and hence shiva severed his head in anger. I'd suggest you Google and read the rest for yourself before letting out more of your verbal diarrhoea.
@satkritk
@satkritk 6 жыл бұрын
nobody asked you to believe it. pretty much every religion has its own version of unscientific stories.. Its called Mythology for a reason. take it or leave it.
@satkritk
@satkritk 6 жыл бұрын
Mohammad the problem #1 is this very mentality of yours that the world should see things only in your viewpoint/ the viewpoint that you have been groomed and raised with.. where by you dont even have the basic decency to respect another person/peoples belief system whatever it may be.. Problem #2 is you very clearly dont know anything about hindu philosophy or scripture and you pull out one story out of a million and use that as example for an entire way of life. I said this before and i say it again.. do your research first on what Hinduism really is and stands for.. had you done that i dont think you will find the need to be talking to me over this channel.
@satkritk
@satkritk 6 жыл бұрын
if you hadnt started "spewed rubbish" and just accepted peoples belief as they were i wouldn't even have replied to you in the first place. Secondly my stance is stronger with your dillusional impression of my "Surrender"... Lol.. buddy you really need to grow up mentally..im not fighting a war here to surrender.. and im very clear with my views on life... When someones belief system doesnt affect your life what is your business critisizing them? IF you came up with any scientific genuine questions to ask id be very happy to answer them. Your rhetoric is just based on superiority complex none less.. If you need answers start reading the scriptures and look for them instead of exhibiting empty vessel syndrome.
@abhinaybakshi
@abhinaybakshi 6 жыл бұрын
Loved the Prithvi Raj Chauhan example..... Hindus .... please don't repeat the mistake..... imagine what will happen to us if this country becomes Muslim Majority!!!!
@benefactor4309
@benefactor4309 4 жыл бұрын
Swamy jee has half knowledge , I personally do not like prithviraj he was a great warrior but an average ruler . He wasted a lot of time with his wife
@rohithls9357
@rohithls9357 4 жыл бұрын
@lazy guy I feel bad for your knowledge when you are telling Swami is a half Knowledge person. If he is half Knowledge person then u and me don't have knowledge at all.
@yinyang.333
@yinyang.333 4 жыл бұрын
@@benefactor4309 Love is not crime that you're making fun of love. You won't spare a second in clicking your Photo at Taj Mahal, but cry foul over prithviraj for loving his wife. Chutiye log
@smitaswarup8562
@smitaswarup8562 3 жыл бұрын
There have been problems. Both have to work to resolve them peacefully kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKaplIVtg7WkjNE Jai Hind, ek dusre ko nigal jaoge and Chinese will invade, please
@harshjain3122
@harshjain3122 3 жыл бұрын
@@yinyang.333 btw she was what her 9th ish wife(mumtaz) and died during her 14th child. Also, after she died, the bastard married her sister anyway...so much for love lol
@damodharnirgude3599
@damodharnirgude3599 5 жыл бұрын
Some part of video is deleted...While Mr. Swami was speaking about demonitization But truly he's a great speaker.
@mac9031
@mac9031 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that they cut the portion where swami ji goes off record about gdp...shows what power and charisma he has over the media and India as well...great journalism and similarly awesome answers swamiji...
@saurabh0683
@saurabh0683 7 жыл бұрын
swamiji is really brilliant n honest person
@bharathbaskaran94
@bharathbaskaran94 7 жыл бұрын
This Interview Is something will get recorded as benchmark for Journalism Vs Rambo!
@varshneydevansh
@varshneydevansh 5 жыл бұрын
*During Ashoka's time, there is no term of HINDU.*
@Ladisingh9
@Ladisingh9 3 жыл бұрын
Lol,what kind of history you read ?
@aatmaDipoBhava
@aatmaDipoBhava 5 жыл бұрын
Such a biased 2 minutes intro animation bashing only Hindus and BJP.... Bravo Dr. Swamy we are proud of you and will follow you. Please anyone tell me is Algebra is Mulla funded?
@sojibchawdhurymohit2412
@sojibchawdhurymohit2412 7 жыл бұрын
we need more subramanian swami in this country.
@achaggi
@achaggi 6 жыл бұрын
41:15 - 46:00 - Swamy literally kills it at the end!
@ashuuvatikaa
@ashuuvatikaa 4 жыл бұрын
Supremely intelligent and incorruptible...👌👌
@darkknight4858
@darkknight4858 4 жыл бұрын
Respect for swami 👍
@rahulkaulvakil
@rahulkaulvakil 6 жыл бұрын
Shoma Choudary is hell bent. Dr Swami is a class apart.
@sharanabasappa7111
@sharanabasappa7111 6 жыл бұрын
It will be hard for India to replace Dr. Swamy, who is good in his debates with facts and figures.
@selfemployement4309
@selfemployement4309 3 жыл бұрын
Love and respect for Swamy sir.
@rajestate4364
@rajestate4364 4 жыл бұрын
46:12, I can't understand why these liberal women want hindus strength to finish❗❗
@aadityaaggarwal24
@aadityaaggarwal24 5 жыл бұрын
Swamy ji ka swag alag hi hai! God bless him!!
@ShijinNair87
@ShijinNair87 5 жыл бұрын
She lost all here cards in 37:04.....swamiji the great.....Respect
@smitaswarup8562
@smitaswarup8562 3 жыл бұрын
There have been problems. Both have to work to resolve them peacefully kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKaplIVtg7WkjNE Jai Hind, ek dusre ko nigal jaoge and Chinese will invade, please
@satyampandey2222
@satyampandey2222 3 жыл бұрын
@@smitaswarup8562 Baap re kitna chutiyapa tha yr! ulti aagyi
@Reddyreddy-uv3yt
@Reddyreddy-uv3yt 2 жыл бұрын
True, it's propaganda that is clearly shown by her, in the whole video she never asked about Hindus who got killed..
@aeonsleo2
@aeonsleo2 4 жыл бұрын
Everytime she interrupts saying I want to move away from it, and then comes right back at it with a different analogy.
@gl4834
@gl4834 5 жыл бұрын
Great one Swami ji
@utubetruthteller
@utubetruthteller 7 жыл бұрын
India faced many asurs like bakasur bhasmasur and now India faces islamasur and we Indians definitely will overcome this islamasur.
@swamyvivekananda3202
@swamyvivekananda3202 7 жыл бұрын
Islamasur is easy to fight but it is difficult to fight with sickularasurs.
@vk274
@vk274 6 жыл бұрын
Do not try to bring Islamic philosophy of 72 hoors rewards for jihadist into Hinduism.
@surendragigabhoy1640
@surendragigabhoy1640 6 жыл бұрын
utubetruthteller utubetruthteller shomasur
@truthalwaystriumphs2387
@truthalwaystriumphs2387 5 жыл бұрын
@@haseebjabbar7565 ya you you to are dog
@pawankhanna1312
@pawankhanna1312 6 жыл бұрын
Great to hear Dr. Swamy.
@manojchand4006
@manojchand4006 2 жыл бұрын
she is speechless so many times
@malinidipu1514
@malinidipu1514 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks to Swami for sharing knowledge . Nice to listen to you.
@mailamitd1
@mailamitd1 7 жыл бұрын
whole debate is awesome. For homerun/six against Tehelka start at 1:12:30; just near 1:14:48... Sixer/Home run
@shambhukumarmahanta7435
@shambhukumarmahanta7435 6 жыл бұрын
We need many more intellectuals like Swamy.
@stridernumenor4667
@stridernumenor4667 3 жыл бұрын
"Plurality of India is a Hindu Phenomenon not a Muslim Phenomenon" Moral of the whole conversation.
@santoshbharathan
@santoshbharathan 4 жыл бұрын
Swamy just rocked. Slayed her completely. Fearing a rebuttal she hurriedly made a fabricated closing statement.
@sinlokemp
@sinlokemp 6 жыл бұрын
Loved this conversation. Swamy is a gem. Sadly academically educated leftist and socialist elites will never be able to comprehend his reasoning.
@igniteindia6437
@igniteindia6437 7 жыл бұрын
how to destroy a leftist ..intellectual journalist......swamy just rockzzz
@niveditamishra7021
@niveditamishra7021 6 жыл бұрын
This is such a horrible way of speaking. Shoma is being as polite as one could get. In fact, Dr Swamy is an epitome of civility too.
@JC-yo5tx
@JC-yo5tx 6 жыл бұрын
For all his elaborations, he still lowers himself into the level of ISIS that, one needs to impose the rest of society to one's own religious propaganda. Equipped with arms and minus fear of jail, he and his ilk would be in the same boat as ISIS.
@OtisAdonisChad
@OtisAdonisChad 6 жыл бұрын
J C It's a historical fact that once the Muslims gain majority they start dictating their ways and historically it's been violence for religious propagation. All you civilised Muslims will stand on the side and watch when more such movements happen to divide India. All this dialogue and discourse will become irrelevant. You talk of uniform civil code first. Stop multiple marriages and limit the number of children people can have. Then talk of equality and equilibrium in Indian society.
@JC-yo5tx
@JC-yo5tx 6 жыл бұрын
+ASPR When you "assume" you make an ass of u & me. Muslims and other minorities are a very small margin in this country. When you show Hindu communalism, how are you eligible to criticise any other communalism? At the end of the day, this country should be governed by principle of equality with eyes set on developmental goals, not petty 'religious' moronism.
@OtisAdonisChad
@OtisAdonisChad 6 жыл бұрын
J C There is no assumption here. The point is simple. You need one law for all divisions of cast and religions and a reconciliation by Muslim leaders especially that they cannot ask special privileges and neither can the Hindus. And what are you talking about population? Just check their growth rate and their aggressiveness and historical geographical facts before you point at the Hindus. I do not support any kind of violence at all. If my viewpoints are leaning towards the right and not like a libtard or apologist, there's hardly anything to be sorry about. FYI, I have been an open critique about Hindu nationalism and the current governments propaganda in my own small world (or bubble) and have taken enough wrath from my more hardliner viewed friends. Now let's talk about how they are an existential threat; especially the madrassa brainwashed Muslims who have been indoctrinated that all other religions are subpar or 'ungodly' and therefore have no right to be accommodated or adjusted with. If there is no constitutional recognition to their Sharia this country will see Hindu Muslim clashes in no time. The real clashes and not the ones that happened in Gujarat and Maharashtra. I have personally witnessed how the police very often keep the radicalised Muslims in check by overnight rounding up troublemakers at Rafi Ahmed Kidwai marg, Mumbai where they have a problem even if something happens at Israel or Kashmir like the hanging of Afzal Guru. You need to see the stress and tensions in those police stations due to 'sensitive area' classification. Get a hold of ground reality. The largely uneducated and poor Muslim youth may have problem making ends meet, but they don't seem to have issues with rioting. That they do 'dadagiri' is a fact. And libtards and so called educated Muslims will have no say or rather not doing enough to confront the clerics who rule the religion. We Hindus OTOH haven't given control of our religion or religious dictats to anyone, not even RSS. So there is no question of genocide or mass exodus of Muslims in this country which is pretty relevant by their numbers. Please do mention your views on Kashmiri Pandits as well.
@Harerama-xi2sb
@Harerama-xi2sb 4 жыл бұрын
Swamy ji u r Real hero for bharat . Fearlesse tiger for nationa . Wonderful parsan . I Hartley saport next PM for bharat. Apko pranam 👌👌 one men army✊ real son of bharat. 👍
@karanchauhan3079
@karanchauhan3079 5 жыл бұрын
Every time she says....We'l move away
@SP-tr8fm
@SP-tr8fm 5 жыл бұрын
Still no one is a match for Swammy !!!. Long live !!
@malkasrinu2939
@malkasrinu2939 6 жыл бұрын
swamy ia super .. long live swamy
@rituarya977
@rituarya977 3 жыл бұрын
Why the light is soo dim , we like to see Dr Swamy's great personality 🧡🤍💚
@upadhyayrathiraj1518
@upadhyayrathiraj1518 4 жыл бұрын
3-Pointer from Dr Swamy : "a Parsi can marry a bar-girl and his children would be Parsis".
@pradyumanmit7702
@pradyumanmit7702 5 жыл бұрын
43:20 lady got knocked out...and got a chill pill
@katylo692
@katylo692 5 жыл бұрын
So intellectual speak by Dr. S. Swamy!!!
@dejikay2564
@dejikay2564 4 жыл бұрын
This women and so many Men and Women like her... My God (Ram)... I hope they find solace when they are gone.
@BharatPatel-bb6lj
@BharatPatel-bb6lj 5 жыл бұрын
Shoma Chodri keep trying to defame Hindus but Dr swami failed her all the time
@smitaswarup8562
@smitaswarup8562 3 жыл бұрын
There have been problems. Both have to work to resolve them peacefully kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKaplIVtg7WkjNE Jai Hind, ek dusre ko nigal jaoge and Chinese will invade, please
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