My Efficient and Sustainable mapping habits (save your wrists!) | Joy of Exile 4

[@ManaMan1000]

These videos are some of, if not the best I’ve seen about this game since I’ve started playing. Having this chill approach to a game that seems surrounded by a “1337SpeedXgamers” mentality is exactly how I’ve been trying to play and I’m glad that I’m not the only one doing so. Thank you for all the advice and tips on casual healthy play! Looking forward to your continued growth and fun!

[@SinSevenLP]

As someone who is an occupational therapist for many years, I can not stress enough how important the topic is you are talking about in this video! Thank you fot adressing health and ergonomic design! If you need help with the therapeutic insight of why someone should do this or that, let me know, I am happy to help from a professional point of view! :)

[@BogdyPG]

the cat painting in the back is one of the best things I've seen this year

[@NafenX]

My one tip for efficiency, after watching the video, would be to not be stubborn about tightening the strictness on your Item Filter. I've played for quite a few leagues now and I would definitely say that my biggest time waster has been picking up items that ultimately contributed to NOTHING. Now, it is still somewhat early league.. but stuff like 1c unique, at least for me, are not worth the sale tab space (considering they can take up 4, 6 or 8 slots even) required OR the time spent going to hideout to sell them...just for 1c. What I mean about being stubborn is having kind of some reluctance about hiding certain things on your filter. For another example, during one league I finally decided to buy a div card stash tab, because it was getting kind of ridiculous for me to organise them. Now, because I had sunk real money into purchasing this tab, I had this kind of sunk cost fallacy or whatever that, "Well... I bought the div card tab, it would be a WASTE of my money if I didn't highlight EVERY div card on my filter and then pick all of them up to stash them!" and yeah.... A whole butt load of those div cards don't give you anything other than a few alteration shards, once you finally complete a set... And that's just a couple of examples! TL;DR: If you're finding that your inventory is filling up a lot during mapping and it's slowing you down, tighten up the strictness on your filter!

[@cypressstick9396]

I'm 44 and don't have wrist problems, but I wanna keep it that way, so I use a vertical mouse. Don't know how well they work, but super comfy and I like it a lot.

[@wizzfizz6930]

I heard "35 years old" and was, "whelp, I'm 44 and my hands haven't fallen off yet" :P I completely agree however, correct setup and taking breaks is super important

[@xedden2]

I was having some major wrist issues and switched to vertical mouse at work and it's made a big difference. Still use my razor basilisk for gaming but having a better ergonomics while I'm working that's really improve my wrist.

[@xedden2]

I'd love to see a guide on this hollow palm raider. Seems like a lot of fun. My semi off meta thing is a hoag and arakali guardian. Stupid comfy to play once you get all the pieces in place.

[@kalysiekalysie4747]

Man, I am 41 and my wrists are hurting from excessive gaming in the past. I thank you a lot about the vertical mouse tip, ill look into it and hopefully it enables me to chill and relaxe more while gaming.

[@xedden2]

@@kalysiekalysie4747 I got the Logitech MX vertical and I've been pretty happy with it. There really aren't any out there that seem to be good for gaming specifically so I use it at work and my gaming mouse for gaming. You could also very easily have them both connected and use the vertical while you're trading crafting rolling maps Etc and then swap back to the gaming mouse for when you're actually running stuff.

[@bausHuck]

Great video. I stopped caring about efficiency a few leagues ago (not that I was super efficient). Just playing for fun and not the chase of the next item via trade. I try to avoid trade these days. If I can farm or craft the item then I'd rather do that. Currently playing an Explosive Concoction Champion. It's clearing T16 atm. Damage is a bit lacking for bosses. It's tanky enough to give me the extra few hits to react to things. I was playing a Poison Spectral Helix Assassin for league start but got sick of dying and really hated how SH feels. Standing desk is very great if you can get one. I'm 37 years old and I usually take breaks every hour. Play with the kid a bit, have a drink, get yelled at by the wife. My body is in really bad shape from the years of gaming and my job is very harsh on joints. It all adds up. Take care of your body while you are young.

[@damo06ab]

You are absolutely the most wholesome POE streamer/KZbinr I've come across. I'm still relatively new to POE, and since my debute I've wanted to follow a casual POE streamer, because I never have the time to play all content in the game. And optimizing on everything is no joy at all for me. So I'm pleased to have come across your KZbin channel.

[@etzool]

Really appreciate your content, man. I dig your approach; hope it keeps working well for you and keeping things fun and healthy. :)

[@kalysiekalysie4747]

You may not believe it, but now I am a proud casual player. Being 41 years young now, I kinda regret spending 8 hours straight, depriving myself from even getting enough sleep, just to get to great master league, in starcraft 2. While I never got higher than Master 3, I really chronically hurted my wrists, and gaming got less fun now for way less time. I sincerely thank you for this video, I hope it gets the youngsters awareness about healthy gaming up to tier 1. It is a game meat for us to relax and have fun in it, not to generate stress and hurt the wrists. Thanks for reminding us about it.

[@MatAndHisHat]

Great video. I ran close to zero expeditions in Scourge league, as I had too much of them in the previous one, pushing a bit too hard to try for challenges. I know they are quite lucrative but I think I enjoyed Scourge league a lot more because I didn't force myself to play content I didn't particularly like. Now, in Archnemesis league, I'm happy to report my love for expeditions has been reinvigorated!

[@Skaatje]

I am a very lazy casual and proud of it. I don't care about efficiency or making currency. I just want to try out new builds and different ways of playing the game. I am now on my third build this league and I haven't even gotten to T16 maps, or made more then one exalt total, and I still have loads of fun. Really loving your content and take on the game!

[@fyr3st0rm35]

I'm a minute thirty into the video and I'm already convinced I'm 100% listening to only what this person has to say about this game. I can't tell you how many times I've opened a game, looked up a guide or something as a quick refresher and end up just closing the game. More times than I can count. Just getting the game open and yourself playing is something the absolute hardest part, overcoming that expectation to be playing and doing perfectly efficiently.

[@fyr3st0rm35]

also wow this game is bullshit why do scarabs not just already be a thing? this is an insanely bloated game and I am reminded why I don't want to play it

[@NafenX]

On that Map Check that pops up on the overlay, you can actually click the mods on that popup to change them between green, yellow, red, blank! Super useful feature.

[@NafenX]

The Awakened PoE Trade overlay also has a timer/stopwatch sorta widget :D

[@LikeACrouton]

A lot of solid info here, thanks. I've had a lot of fun this league. I started with ice Nova. I noticed you made one as well, but I'm not gonna look, least not yet. This will be my experimenting league. Between the spell buffs and the defense changes, there's a lot i wanna try out and learn over the next couple months.

[@dalwand]

I would love to see stuff about ergonomics, and the holistic approach is one of the main reasons why I come back to your channel, so keep that up! On that regard, I have a suggestion topic: I am level 95 and trying to level. I have gained about 150% to the next level, but due to dying am at 45% . How to do this in a good way without getting frustrated or bored. The ergonomics thing: its an often ignored one. How many (pro) players have issues when they get older? RSI? etc. I'd love to hear about that stuff.

[@WeR2VEVO]

Yes, yes yes! I have had unhealthy relationships with the game beyond tryharding and speedrunning and so on, mostly to due to the unhealthy playtimes I've had in previous leagues. This league, I'm focusing on fun, comfortable enjoyment, trying new stuff, and not forcing myself to play. Wonderful content and series, keep it up!

[@morthgarrow641]

A lot of good tips here! Thanks for mentioning the map checker from Awakened PoE Trade; never even knew about it!

[@TheAnd1roid]

ok that Exilence Next tip was nice. will try it now for me you are by far the most likeable poe streamer

[@fonthanos7625]

Hi, you are the niciest streamer right now, ty exile!

[@tunnain2]

Thanks for the advise - it gave me a pause - and begin to enjoy the game again

[@vine01]

i learned ctrl shift click will ignore affinities and allow for quick dump in between maps.. it ironically says that in there but nobody reads that, myself included :D

[@subtractem]

Yeah I just forgot to do that once in a while and it dirties the data so I specifically turn it on and off so I can't mess it up. Handy for one offs though.

[@martoantoniuk]

I would love to hear some of your thoughts and practices you employ to get those wrists better again, especially with how much you have always played.

[@runslinganOG]

I like your content, so refreshing with lets play something thats friendly, fun smooth and we enjoy. Not just count exalt drops per hour that most poe channels do. Its so stressful xD

[@damorpl]

I love this video. I have seen so many videos from other creators about efficiency, sometimes mentioning drinking water and what not but it was never presented in such detail and understanding of other people. I love the game but sometimes it's just too painful to play and having this kind of guides bring joy back. Keep it up and please add more content about healthly gaming and setups you have. I would like to know more about your standing/sitting routines. I have standing desk for my own but never really use it for gaming, just work. I would also like to hear more about preparation of builds vs playing the gam. I always have this FOMO feeling when opening PoB and not playing the game. Maybe you can advice how to balance that in a healthy manner.

[@epyjacek]

This is such a big topic. I didn't suffer any issues when I was younger, but it gets rough in your 30's. Though an older gamer in the comments did suggest a vertical mouse, we'll see.

[@voodoo1069]

Always prep your run tab for the next day before you get off. I found that helps me the most also ya just have a run tab.

[@julianb4157]

If you also work at a computer, I recommend learning to use a mouse in your offhand. Feels weird at first, but taking the load off the mouse hand for a few months fixed my wrist pains when I was overdoing gaming a few years back.

[@subtractem]

Love this recommendation! I do this periodically when I feel just a twinge here or there in my mouse hand

[@fayezm2042]

Amazing video. One of my favorites. Keep it up!

[@ognar1272]

I would love to listen about the ergonomics topic ,and in general would love to listen to your thoughts on topics that interest you, as the way you present yourself makes it easy to follow how you think about the process. Cheers!

[@Kim_Lund]

Recently been thinking about ergonomics as well after being super annoyed over a lot of awkward key combinations I use all day in CAD. Got my self a very silly looking but totally awesome Azeron pad that basically replaced my keyboard for work, then started using it for gaming. There was a learning curve and a full week of being annoyed now however my left hand is totally relaxed. That done I also got my self a ridiculously expensive flight sim chair (without mods for HOTAS) and boy is this chair comfortable and built for a lot of use.

[@Nick-gt3yc]

Ergonomics video, yes please. Have how to put my mouse settings/ arm placement. As well as settings that can help. Maybe some stretches as well?

[@CaseyHancocki3luefire]

Also yes ergonomics are very important to me. I suffer from terrible hand pain all the time. I am a bit older than you @Subtractem and have had 3 surgeries for hand pain already.

[@tineye5100]

The Sextant timing is a good point. Hadn’t considered that.

[@pettsson1143]

Watching this video make Poe feels lika a job. I play very casual nowdays and im still clearing end game before league ends.

[@subtractem]

Whatever works for you!

[@saibaschbeis8731]

this video alone made me subscribe (not that the rest of the content is any worse :D) - very much appreciated, with very good ideas / habits! Also give a cuddle to your cat from me ;)

[@h0lykn1gt75]

Absolutely loving this series. I’d also love to see what you could do with Bane with the new ashes of the stars and forbidden flame/flesh jewels. :D

[@bustinjieber9600]

you can put lilly roth right next to your stash. she do the same thing as tane but you can also trade your div cards to her. it might help for your efficiency

[@karmoth6666]

Yo mr. Niceguy. Very good content and smth to think about

[@atugak]

I am interested in your ergonomics video! Waiting for it

[@vophiel]

bruh....why couldnt this be my dad growing up, he's just such a nice guy

[@ozzycommander]

Listen to the man. I played trappo sabo in ziz's 3.16 gauntlet... it caused so much damage to my wrist i went from ok to needs surgery in 3 days

[@dth7171]

Loving your bane occultist right now saving for spidey guardian

[@Redrum_ZA]

You introduced me to bane occ. First time i try it is this league and im seriously loving it so much. First time im not playing minion build since i started poe. Would love to get some feedback on my current gear and where i am at. I work most of the time so im always super low on currency i prob put it about 2-3 hours in a night so working on a very low budget.

[@subtractem]

Feel free to toss your pob into the discord, we have many folks who would love to help

[@jarekl7012]

Awesome video. can you make one for players, who can spend 2-3h in game, so they dont have hundreds of exalts to buy eq

[@LarpingAsALarper]

I cannot stress how much a dual level sit / stand desk is worth the money. A dual level one has adjustable keyboard trays. Which let's you line it up perfectly to your arm rests. Your elbows and shoulders will thank you.

[@jessebuktenica8475]

I would love advice on taking care of our wrists!

[@ArnoldMejia]

Healthy gaming would be huge. This game made me go to the dark side with macros- to roll maps, and funny enough the Ctr+Click on a key so I don't have to click as much. I already don't click to move, bound move to space.

[@boedhiman]

Please make the ergonomics video, that is something I'm really interested in!

[@jjusa00]

GREAT VIDEO!!!

[@gnoz3337]

Do you have a gameplay of you in SCII? I would love to see how you played that game

[@subtractem]

Sadly I don't. That was nearly a year ago at this point! I still have the Tshirt from a tournament that day9 casted that I was in though :)

[@fabianpeter5344]

Hello and Ty for the nice video as always… i just want to ask if there is a way to make a bleed bow glad work or is it a dead Build…? Greez from bavaria…

[@subtractem]

Possible but won't feel as good as it did in the past without high investment

[@NoMMAdd_Soap]

I'm very new so im not sure if it's meta. I'm only in part 6 and not finished game. I've only been playing maybe 3 weeks. I'm playing a elemental hit, coc, purifying flame, mirage archer, and summon phantasm support, crit multiplier on my bow. flesh offering. Flame golom. specing into crit multiplier. I feel like it's the only attack I need.

[@Shelbear2]

this is wholesome.

[@ramazankaya9545]

I like fortunes favor but i cant really handle beyond it take to much more time if it roles beyond

[@Squall576582]

If you are experiecing pain in the upper back or between the shoulder blades make sure your screens are high enough that you aren't looking down and tilting your head. Also, work out those upper back muscles to counteract the hunching.

[@martinmendoza8303]

what server and what alias did you use in wc3, i got really high in the ladder too id be curious if i recognize your alias ^.^

[@honza2018]

Please, do that ergonomics stuff! Thank you so much :)

[@erktigli5248]

I see Zeus, I upvote.

[@semi-decent1844]

Just this morning I was running a map and in the boss room I spawned a metamorph and it killed me but the map was so huge that I didn't feel like running all the way back so I just put in the next map and kept on cruising. Also Nuggets over tendies.

[@fishtacos007]

Cast on death +portal set up here, every character. Even if it costs me DPS

[@semi-decent1844]

@@fishtacos007 honestly that might be the play. But I hate losing dps 😭

[@EvilWeiRamirez]

I wish this was done with a Bob Ross cosplay

[@JoeNoMercy]

Leveling a tec slam chief to see if going ignite with divine inferno makes it feel better than it has in the past few leagues

[@RCTricking]

Ergo is great, I have to do PT and stuff for my shoulder so I can game it up

[@123joshpearce]

Mason jar drinkers unite! Great video and love a series on PoE positivity.

[@HollowPiero]

Im currently playing Death's Oath + Blight Essence drain and it's a really fun build but a bit squishy.

[@endlessgrinding3764]

Quick qstn does death oath work with ci?🤔

[@Valkaneer]

So how many maps do you do a day to make decent currency? What is normal for you?

[@subtractem]

It's not fair to compare what I do day to day to other folks. Time your maps personally and set your own goals :)

[@404thomascw]

Playing an abyss stacking wander and having a blast (:

[@nicholasj3213]

Are you doing an ergonomics video?

[@subtractem]

I will yeah!

[@nicholasj3213]

Cool I thought so but didn’t want to rewatch to confirm 😓

[@LightOfSkyFalling]

Which is the best open map for expedition? 🤔

[@subtractem]

Not sure these days! Something like dunes is great though

[@gyyn1427]

Do you have a build guide for this build?

[@subtractem]

Not a super detailed build guide but I have a video and a PoB on it yeah: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZrNinesnLdraqs

[@gyyn1427]

@@subtractem thanks! You're the best!

[@Valkaneer]

How did you get so many breaches on your map? I spec'd breach and after a full day and a half of zero breach's I spec'd out of it. Now I see you have 3 on a single map, how?

[@subtractem]

Scarabs are so cheap this league they're your best friend

[@devinvisible]

Chicken tendies for breakfast? WTFF

[@dimitarnedned2028]

Do ergonomics video man. We all want that

[@Harlekin-Ger]

The most fun and off meta build for me is Bellabong's dancing dervishes. Never had a league start so smooth and I am playing since the beta

[@sheepys551]

Love these videos and I definitely needed to be told that its ok to not do all the content in a map, thanks.

[@Jiggerjaw]

No joke about the essences, I burned all six portals on an essence monster the other day, after murdering the whole map no problem.

[@danielb4480]

My spark Inquisitor is quite tanky, but some essence mobs are just rippy af especially when they get duplicated ^^

[@massivetoolhead]

Not sure my own health is more important then a headhunter tho 😄

[@นัฐพลขุนแก้ว-ศ4ท]

pob

[@Tsarius11]

Did you really just drop Opulent and just not react to it at all??

[@subtractem]

Yeah I have like 5 of them. In my testing they didn't feel that special at all. Clicking the urns is kind of fun but no good drops at all for me.

[@Tsarius11]

@@subtractem So...obviously just a theory because I have yet to drop 1 Opulent, but I figure this theory will be better in your hands than mine: I think Brine-King, Kitava touched(or evocationist for budget), Treant horde, and Opulent would probably be the best option for Opulent to spit out solid value. That or it's broken and it's not interacting with the special drop rewards, which could also be the case.

[@iguanaATTACK]

dex stacking balista

[@MeTuLHeD]

Dude...I can't even advance in maps! I die like a dog in T3. LOL! Yep. I suck. Help!

[@endlessgrinding3764]

Hideout is lava so i roll and craft items while in map ez

[@tmnumber1]

Wtf is a Tendie?

[@subtractem]

Nom nom nom!

[@CaseyHancocki3luefire]

First

[@CaseyHancocki3luefire]

LOLOLOLOLOL @ me

[@fabioballestra704]

I would also like to play efficiently. But I'm still figuring out how to faem the Arch Nemesis modifier. I've been searching for Frenzied for a week now. The modifier don't fall randomly. Players on Reddit have figured out correlations between the modifier and the map modifier. You can read about it here. www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/smtabm/archnemesis_mods_are_based_on_the_creatures_mods/ I find the new mechanics really great but you can not yet farm them specifically.