How to sing Bel Canto II

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SueAnnNivens

SueAnnNivens

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@BrettOwen71
@BrettOwen71 8 жыл бұрын
Love watching the greats just hanging out, sharing their knowledge, learning from each other, joking, teasing each other. Really nice to see them as real people. For me, it makes their artistry all the more magnificent!
@shayanmardanbeigi2697
@shayanmardanbeigi2697 4 жыл бұрын
That whistle is an instrument of its own, maestro wow!!!!
@JuliaThornton0823
@JuliaThornton0823 16 жыл бұрын
I love it when Luciano does his whistling! That is awesome!!! He sounds just like a birdie.
@merleelizabeth
@merleelizabeth 4 жыл бұрын
Has anyone noticed how Mr. Pavarotti blushed when Ms. Horne sang into his ear? A hint of shyness.....so sweet!
@flav2689
@flav2689 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t at first as I was focused on her singing but I rewatched it when I saw your comment. That’s so cute!! He was very adorable. That voice and such a nice, warm personality - the world lost a lot when he passed away. Rest in peace, maestro. ❤️
@johnpagaduan3755
@johnpagaduan3755 3 жыл бұрын
@@flav2689 What is the aria she sang?
@flav2689
@flav2689 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnpagaduan3755 I’m sorry I’m this late (KZbin notifications are not so great, half of them don’t work), but if you are still searching for it: The aria is called Per lui che adoro, it’s from Rossinis opera L'italiana in Algeri 😊
@flav2689
@flav2689 3 жыл бұрын
It’s no wonder really…😂 Because the lyrics she sang are full of romance - the translation: ”For him whom I adore, for him whom I treasure” That and the way she playfully flirted while singing, it’s not a surprise that our maestro who loved women very much in general, thought it was nice ;) I’m a bit jealous for Horne, a lucky lady - she got to do that!
@luiscuesta0719
@luiscuesta0719 3 жыл бұрын
That whistle deserves a grammy
@rapinncapin123
@rapinncapin123 7 күн бұрын
😂
@NatiDeNut
@NatiDeNut 14 жыл бұрын
Pavarotti's whistle is so beautiful!!!
@Sicilia928
@Sicilia928 Жыл бұрын
In my humble opinion, Luciano and Dame Joan are still unmatched. And what a lovely and long marriage Joan and Richard Bonynge had. Quite a pair indeed!
@65NART
@65NART 10 ай бұрын
You are right. They don’t make them like that anymore.
@operaox10
@operaox10 4 ай бұрын
Right, despite Richard's being gay.
@TheRominaShow
@TheRominaShow 17 жыл бұрын
Three GIANT singers!!! Thank you for this great video, great lesson and great archive! It's so great!
@TMPSpodcast
@TMPSpodcast 17 жыл бұрын
This video rocks!! Thank you very much for posting it. Three of the greatest singers in the past 100 years. Dame Joan Sutherland!!! Luciano Pavarotti!!!! Marilyn Horne!!!!! Plus conductor Richard Bonynge!! This is truly awesome!!! I want this DVD or Tape or whatever!!!
@MrStpendouslvforjo
@MrStpendouslvforjo 4 жыл бұрын
Joan is INCREDIBLE at 3:33! I wonder how many singers could do that? I bet not many...
@guidodiiorio6183
@guidodiiorio6183 4 жыл бұрын
Marilyn Horne... great voice and great personality
@AdIgnorantiam
@AdIgnorantiam 14 жыл бұрын
This is so educational. It's awesome watching masters of a craft discussing the mechanics behind the craft.
@chrisukeYouTube
@chrisukeYouTube 11 жыл бұрын
That's whistling is unbelievable! Defo going to practice that
@cybermoose602
@cybermoose602 7 жыл бұрын
WOW I have never seen a human whistling and actually having a insane vibrato there too, what the hell did I just watch, I just love Luciano even more now.
@darkfeather6857
@darkfeather6857 7 жыл бұрын
Do you know what song the whistling is from?
@tysonprice5058
@tysonprice5058 6 жыл бұрын
(That's not vibrato, it's a trill!)
@darkfeather6857
@darkfeather6857 5 жыл бұрын
@@pablomonserrat1267 Thank you!!
@musettina6adina224
@musettina6adina224 3 жыл бұрын
@@pablomonserrat1267 Lucia di Lammermoor
@udonloews1301
@udonloews1301 Жыл бұрын
I just came on to this channel 45 minutes ago. I will spend this weekend go through all. Thank you❤️❤️😘❤️❤️
@SimonWallfischMusic
@SimonWallfischMusic 14 жыл бұрын
"Now Luciano.... that's another thing..." Wonderful!
@tecnica-de-voz
@tecnica-de-voz 16 жыл бұрын
'I learnt from the birds!' maravilloso.
@musettina6adina224
@musettina6adina224 3 жыл бұрын
Callas used to watch a canary sing - during her Greek years ,trying to learn from him,too.
@kbhprinsesse
@kbhprinsesse 3 жыл бұрын
I think that was in NY. In Athens she had proper tuition.
@musettina6adina224
@musettina6adina224 3 жыл бұрын
@@kbhprinsesse she had both in Athens. She recalls watching that canary sing in her biography. And was also training at the Athens Conservatory after being initially refused- as well as studying privately with Trivella first,then Elvira de Hidalgo.
@eradesso
@eradesso 15 жыл бұрын
Joan is insane.. her trills...to die for! Pavarotti's whistle sounds just like Yma Sumac's trill
@nickbigd
@nickbigd 17 жыл бұрын
thanks very much for this. love pavarotti's whistle, dame joan's trill, and horne's everything. bonynge is so right on the ephemeral nature of bel canto. it is difficult to summarize in words.
@bagatelleno.2593
@bagatelleno.2593 6 жыл бұрын
4:35 that laugh is staccato xD
@stormcorrosion176
@stormcorrosion176 5 жыл бұрын
Bro her laugh sounds like a vocal sampler w massive delay. She is awesome haha
@ronaldkatsuki7413
@ronaldkatsuki7413 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I able to laugh with belcanto
@petermeikle
@petermeikle 16 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful 2 video's - So astonishing to see and hear these 3 extraordinary people discussing their actual technique. Thank you for posting xx
@876234ABC
@876234ABC 16 жыл бұрын
I wish I were young!! I'd love to start my life over with this knowledge!
@missmia1
@missmia1 16 жыл бұрын
What amazing footage! Thank you for sharing this! Oh to be in the room with these people!
@tomkenyon4517
@tomkenyon4517 3 жыл бұрын
They make it seem so easy and effortless to produce perfect sound.
@tantricsurfer
@tantricsurfer 16 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! Thanks so much. Not only very useful for singers, but also very funny, especially when Luciano whistles. LOL!
@alessandrott7568
@alessandrott7568 Жыл бұрын
This is simply priceless. Thank you very much for sharing it.
@frenchenstein
@frenchenstein 3 жыл бұрын
These two videos are a delight. Thank you.
@powerinpraise2000
@powerinpraise2000 17 жыл бұрын
this is so necessary to see. I wish this kind of documentation on technique happened with all of the greats in their repertoire, Nilsson and Hotter and Melchior for Wagner, Price Corelli and Tebaldi for Verdi and Verismo etc.
@Orfeus80
@Orfeus80 17 жыл бұрын
The Pavarotti bird trill is amazing!
@magicmonkichi
@magicmonkichi 14 жыл бұрын
I love Joan's "I don't remember" (sonnambula) then "oh yea" and then she throws it out...BRAVA~!
@wasabi7497
@wasabi7497 2 жыл бұрын
5:33 i love how Marilyn just starts speaking Italian like it's nothing
@flav2689
@flav2689 Жыл бұрын
I know, it’s funny and adorable - she’s so talented it’s ridiculous. Not only a incredible singer but also mastering many languages…damn 😂❤
@StStStS
@StStStS Ай бұрын
Pavarotti is also the best whistler I have ever heard! 😂❤😂❤😂❤😂 And Joan when she laughs in delight at it, is also operatic! Can’t thank you enough for posting this. It seems unreal to see such famous figures all in one room so informally.
@1mmickk
@1mmickk Жыл бұрын
Dame Joan always looked lke she was working when she sang. Ms Horne the sound just appears as if out of thin air. Its also fun to see how these singers are culturally different to your average lead singer in a band.
@geminikid1617
@geminikid1617 6 ай бұрын
Well it’s easier in Marilyn’s case b/c she placed her voice heavily into the mask (practically forcing it there sometimes) & eliminated chest coordination. Singing mask placed, nasal, light, bright & w/the elimination of some chest voice, is far easier than singing in the pharyngeal space w/a low larynx, vertical mouth, naturally dark & lots of chest coordination.
@delibeslakme6451
@delibeslakme6451 3 жыл бұрын
Trio fantástico!!! Las voces más bellas que han existido, timbre bellísimo....
@dianaventura7999
@dianaventura7999 10 жыл бұрын
Sutherland's trill, 1/2 tone and full tone!!!
@gerhards6430
@gerhards6430 4 жыл бұрын
2:11 - 2:29 is soo beautiful, she's amazing.
@handrionurhan
@handrionurhan 17 жыл бұрын
I like this sooooooooooooooooo much! The mezza di voce of Horne is awesome,, i think it is superior than of Sutherland.(sutherland is the one in red right?)Pavarotti's bird singing is AWESOME! how can he did that???!!!! Jeeezz.
@marcoshbrj
@marcoshbrj 16 жыл бұрын
From 4:26 to 4:34 was one of the most impressive things I ever saw in my life, Pavarotti is eterno!
@user-of4kk4in9f
@user-of4kk4in9f 4 жыл бұрын
Sutherland is amazing. True bel canto. Watch her breathe into her lower back and hold her mouth as an oval lying on its side. Pure Caruso!!! The throat is FREE. Don't fool with the natural placement. NO action in throat!
@orion8835
@orion8835 2 жыл бұрын
There is action in the throat. The tone is just centered in the middle of the palate. The throat is always engaged. The larynx is low versus raised of course but this fantasy that the throat is bypassed is absurd.
@user-of4kk4in9f
@user-of4kk4in9f 2 жыл бұрын
@@orion8835 Caruso would disagree. Can you sing like Tetrazzini, who said similar.? They just mean dont actively push, let the BREATH direct the sound through the throat. The breath carries the sound, there is no 'conscious' action in the throat. Obviously the throat moves resultantky. Luckily many students are smart enough to get this.
@LoveLeeDay
@LoveLeeDay 3 жыл бұрын
Bel Canto is given much like grace; and angels pile in to be heard!
@crystalv6122
@crystalv6122 2 ай бұрын
So much greatness in this video ❤ that whistle was something else 😮
@vincej9352
@vincej9352 6 жыл бұрын
Pavarotti even makes whistling sound fantastic
@puccinislarondine
@puccinislarondine 15 жыл бұрын
Pavarotti is not confused. "mezza voce" does mean 1/2 voice, but "messa di voce" means the placement and or adjustment of the voice. Look up the word "messa" in an Italian dictionary & you'll see what I mean. btw, did anyone notice that Pavarotti's whistle is the lead into "Strinodo lassu" from Pagliacci? lol! thanks to SueAnne for posting these, these 3 were my holy trinity when I was a young singer. :)
@C_Madrid
@C_Madrid 6 жыл бұрын
thanks kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6LPZouVeryjjbc Stridono lassu*
@mermodfreres
@mermodfreres 17 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful posting -- I learned so much! Thank you!!
@tenorschofield
@tenorschofield 14 жыл бұрын
Bravo!!!!,great, it helps a lot all of us singers!!!!! I guess all of us, are followers of these extraordinary talented artists...that pobe their own words that you need double porcentage of working, than of natural abilities. Of course,in here you find most of the Lords Blessings given in this singers voices!!!!
@flav2689
@flav2689 Жыл бұрын
7:33 I cannot. Marilyn is spectacular. ❤
@ahimsainternational
@ahimsainternational 12 жыл бұрын
Pavarotti is incredible at about 4:20+ -- really amazing.
@ternitamas
@ternitamas 7 жыл бұрын
2:50 the SHADE! hahaha love it!!
@bbnCRLB
@bbnCRLB 6 жыл бұрын
Old but lovely video. Enjoyed every second.
@r7diego
@r7diego 14 жыл бұрын
this is so wonderful, here you have a casual friends talk, but htis friends are some of the greatest exponents of lyrics
@Gobbi2007
@Gobbi2007 17 жыл бұрын
I agree, Agorante, he can really whistle! I found it funny that he whistles part of Sutherland's Lucia mad scene cadenza.
@musettina6adina224
@musettina6adina224 3 жыл бұрын
He could sing the ladies role too. Did so during auditions, sometimes.
@operagirl81
@operagirl81 13 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful clip, hearing some of the greats showing and talking about vocal techniques! I need to find Part 1.
@tetiana8
@tetiana8 Жыл бұрын
Це відео як джерело чистої води! Дякую!!!❤🙏💐💐💐
@jamesliketheking
@jamesliketheking 16 жыл бұрын
Loved it! Inspiring!
@ChuckNYC71
@ChuckNYC71 17 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this. Aside from the musical aspect is a great insight on how all 3 of them interact. Miss you Luciano..
@vintagepipesnightmares
@vintagepipesnightmares Жыл бұрын
Look how normal and nice these people were and look at the “ stars” we have today.
@micheleguillerez5915
@micheleguillerez5915 3 жыл бұрын
This wistle of Luciano Pavarotti deserves a Grammy !💖👏💖
@mdgaultney
@mdgaultney 16 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for uploading this! I am currently a studying Tenor student and I have found this very helpful.
@jenni4claire
@jenni4claire 17 жыл бұрын
It does seem like an affectionate, even flirtatious, teasing of Sutherland - the birds he recalls seem to be trilling the mad scene from Lucia , which Sutherland did so famously and so well, with him.
@samlarmer4412
@samlarmer4412 3 жыл бұрын
Joan has such a delightful laugh
@AmhranaiAlainn
@AmhranaiAlainn 15 жыл бұрын
Essentially there are two schools of thought on singing: The technical way based on tone and physicality and the natural way based on the fact that what nature has given you is all that is needed. The natural way is at the heart of the Bel Canto way of singing. Many of the early recorded singers up until the advent of WW2 sang this way. The advances in science brought about a different approach in teaching by looking at how the voice operated. This has subsequently distracted from the true way.
@senna6773
@senna6773 4 жыл бұрын
Don't talk bullshit. You don't pick an incomplete voice, without head voice development and put to sing opera "naturally". And even those who have natural voices have to learn INTELECTUALLY why and how they are doing something correct and the way to obtain it when facility is lost with ageing. ALL CLASSICAL AND OPERATIC SINGING IS TECHNICAL. The singer have to BUILD or at least DEVELOP his instrument, and one DOES NOT achieve it by merely opening the mouth and singing "naturally". At the end, art conceals art. That's why there are so many ignorants denying the existence of registers or trying to push the chest voice up.
@YVRopera
@YVRopera 17 жыл бұрын
OMG! this is exciting! even since i got hooked on opera, these 3 have showed what bel canto is all about....BRAVI! thanks much for posting this.
@mrloverman2.0
@mrloverman2.0 6 жыл бұрын
Omg Pavarotti can whistle better than Mariah Carey.
@Cassiopée777
@Cassiopée777 5 жыл бұрын
@Scott Kasaboski 😂😂😂
@am-gobears5191
@am-gobears5191 4 жыл бұрын
@Scott Kasaboski Great point - very funny!
@moe5201
@moe5201 4 жыл бұрын
@Scott Kasaboski anyone who says shush should be forcibly castrated
@gianca60
@gianca60 4 жыл бұрын
@@moe5201 so Joe Biden should.
@musettina6adina224
@musettina6adina224 3 жыл бұрын
I can testify to that, he d even whistle female roles to help students during auditions.
@gepal7914
@gepal7914 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic pair of videos! What a grouping!
@Janibeva
@Janibeva 17 жыл бұрын
Cuando vi por primera vez estos videos, me preguntaba quièn era la dama de cabellos oscuros, me imaginè que tendrìa que ser una excelente cantante para estar al lado de estos dos monstruos de la òpera, pero no sbaìa que era mi admirada Marylin horne!!!! Què sorpresa tan agradable conocer al fin su rostro... enormes los 3.
@jenni4claire
@jenni4claire 17 жыл бұрын
The wee birds in Modena in the 30's and 40's must have been better educated than the birds in Ireland. Ours don't even trill 'Happy Birthday'.
@williamadolphe7921
@williamadolphe7921 3 жыл бұрын
hahaahah.
@KimBakTarot
@KimBakTarot 3 жыл бұрын
Jewel~ 너무나 소듕한 비디오입니다... 우어우어..I LOVE technology!!! Thank u whoever made that video! Bless you!
@ShawDAMAN
@ShawDAMAN 16 жыл бұрын
Ha ha that's cute how Horne hugs Luciano when she sings :P
@ereccay2k22
@ereccay2k22 15 жыл бұрын
do they have more of these? i wanna watch more of them. so fun to watch them argue too!
@pluck833
@pluck833 5 жыл бұрын
Tyne Daly has a beautiful voice..
@ernestomenendez-conde6017
@ernestomenendez-conde6017 3 жыл бұрын
Marvelous!!! Thanks for sharing.
@rebal1681
@rebal1681 5 ай бұрын
I remember seeing this when it first aired on PBS way back when!
14 жыл бұрын
Great! You've made me absolutely happy in posting this Video!!! Thank you so much! I've never seen it before. But all those things i've heard from my great teachers, Maria Stader, Dame Elisabeth Schwarzkopf, who told absolutely the same about 'passagio' like Pavarotti in this film, and Gundula Janowitz. Through Maria Stader i've become legal successor of the 'Genealogical Tree of Belcanto since 1659' which you can follow back until to the founder of the Art of Belcanto, the Castrato Pistocchi!
@AmhranaiAlainn
@AmhranaiAlainn 15 жыл бұрын
At the heart of natural singing is 'less is more'. Basically, the more you leave things alone with regard to the voice, the more the voice will grow and shine and the feeling of effortlessness will become apparent to the singer especially in parts where one would think great effort or technique was involved. Bjorling is a great example of a Bel Canto singer. If you listen carefully you will hear that it is essentially his speaking voice with more animation, expression and sustaining - natural.
@kakurangers1993
@kakurangers1993 14 жыл бұрын
Dame Joan Sutherland! Brava!
@bigus
@bigus 15 жыл бұрын
also in the first part of this video pavarotti does a demonstration of the covered sound and says it takes maybe 10 years to make a sound like that. its true because the muscles do not naturally phonate that way unless there is lots of practice and support underneath. one cannot simply pick up the music and sing it beautifully in their natural voice (as you say) immediately if they cannot technically do it. also no one wants to hear someone making adolescent sounds on this music which they will.
@maureenderry
@maureenderry 17 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant!. 5 stars and favourite.
@rayre3617
@rayre3617 Жыл бұрын
I’m so so impressed!
@tneprescintr
@tneprescintr 16 жыл бұрын
Priceless! Thank you!
@gracesu-weatherby6626
@gracesu-weatherby6626 3 жыл бұрын
Love them all!
@katstrut
@katstrut 15 жыл бұрын
What a treat thank you so much for posting! :) Re the mother comment, it is true what dynamicstuff73 said. Dame Joan wasn't being disrespectful, on the contrary. Thanks again SueAnne.
@bigus
@bigus 15 жыл бұрын
lastly, it is by freeing the voice that you get to actually hear what the persons natural dynamic sound is. if the average joe picked up some music and started to sing, perhaps someone would find beauty in that but they aren't necessarily hearing his natural voice. they might hear hints of it, but with any number of technical problems that 99% of humans will have based on language and bad habits, what you will hear will be the distortion not the natural. no one ever sounded like pavarotti(cont.)
@declan332
@declan332 15 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! A great insight....
@thomasgrass6357
@thomasgrass6357 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing......
@tenormcgee
@tenormcgee 17 жыл бұрын
oh how i wish to have had the three of them as teachers...it'd be the bast damn studio.
@zlauriault
@zlauriault 3 жыл бұрын
Pop and rock singers are down in the dirt compared to the art, ability, natural gifting, and technique it takes to sing bel canto.
@flav2689
@flav2689 Жыл бұрын
So true.
@benedictdsilva3954
@benedictdsilva3954 Жыл бұрын
Nice video The Joan and Luciano I've heard. The other lady had a musical voice too.
@kngiht84
@kngiht84 14 жыл бұрын
@bigus It's 2 months already but I have to agree with you. Although Pavarotti's operatic career might not have been as impressive as some other tenors, he was and is the only one whom I've heard who understood and could project his voice OUTWARD completely without sounding restrained. As for sopranos, no one but Joanie could do the same thing.
@aleksandrosipov7901
@aleksandrosipov7901 6 жыл бұрын
4:26 Bravo Luciano !!!!
@lissandrafreljord7913
@lissandrafreljord7913 7 жыл бұрын
5:13 was Marylin Horn referring to Giulietta Simionato? There is a video where Ms. Simionato dismisses the chest voice, so I'm guessing she would also dismiss other things.
@ternitamas
@ternitamas 7 жыл бұрын
I believe she is, hilarious!
@jasonhurd4379
@jasonhurd4379 6 жыл бұрын
Lissandra Freljord I thought she was referring to Fedora Barbieri. Could also have been Ebe Stignani.
@Tkimba2
@Tkimba2 5 жыл бұрын
@@jasonhurd4379 I don't think it was Stignani...
@elic2real
@elic2real 14 жыл бұрын
@evifnoskcaj with out a pitch to reference (like accompaniment) most vocalist will waver in pitch a little. Especially when doing a sustained change in dynamic that drastic.
@operagirl81
@operagirl81 13 жыл бұрын
Nice trills! Especially Pavarotti. :o)
@achillesbuchanan2095
@achillesbuchanan2095 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Thank you.
@ILoveTobin
@ILoveTobin 16 жыл бұрын
5:30 - Luciano confuses something: Messa di voce should not be confused with mezza voce (Italian, half voice) which means to sing at half strength. But that whistle is just incredible!
@ternitamas
@ternitamas 7 жыл бұрын
no, he doesn't. he says messa means to put the voice, to place it correctly
@raigekimaru
@raigekimaru 15 жыл бұрын
I never had to learn how to trill. the hardest thing for me has been learning to sing softly.
@sharonazar1
@sharonazar1 Жыл бұрын
Magnificent!!!!
@lalagonegaga
@lalagonegaga 15 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha, at 5:32 Horne starts speaking in Italian without realising it. :)
@stephaniestanley8041
@stephaniestanley8041 Жыл бұрын
❤and they are all projecting their power and control while sitting!!😮
@magicmonkichi
@magicmonkichi 15 жыл бұрын
Trills...brilliant...and at 4:20...even better ^^
@marcocampus7943
@marcocampus7943 3 жыл бұрын
Sutherland's trills ❤️
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