Suga from BTS Wasn't Lying!

[@crystalsnow1138]

It wasn't BTS fans wanting Suga to leave BTS, it was BTS antis and fans of other groups who took advantage of this situation to try to destroy BTS. It's sickening.

[@MidnightxCrow]

Exactly, we literally didn't stop trending tags and even sent letters to media and boycotted their ads until they apologized

[@HasanPikerIsADouche]

"It's sickening"... it's no big deal, and ppl should stop being so fanatical

[@sandyg4646]

no offense but i hope you don't think bts fans don't do this to other stars of other groups.

[@crystalsnow1138]

@@HasanPikerIsADouche To me it is sickening when people take advantage of a situation to bring down someone they don't even know. You don't think that can negatively impact someone's mental health if they are being told by antis they should leave their group and that they are a terrible person for what they did?

[@crystalsnow1138]

@@sandyg4646 Toxic fans yes, but I believe most ARMY don't behave that way. It's wrong no matter what fandom that does it.

[@Whyyougottabethisway]

The fact he stood up quickly, then bent over and corrected his lil scooter without falling on his face shows he was not nearly as drunk as the .227 claim. Korean media is a joke.

[@shamkand]

Yes, but the way they said he was driving, hitting people and made everybody think is was a car or motorcycle was absurd. They even posted the wrong videos, only to find that it was a foldable mobility scooter that does not even have/require a license plate ... that can't even reach 30 km and is 25 kg...

[@parriah8083]

Yeah, he would have had to be drinking for hours for that reading and I wasn’t that late when he was toodling home. Nah, they lying

[@InnocentCaveWaterfall-gf1ue]

Andup until now Mr. Policeman aint stating suga's alcohol level

[@aa-bz8jg]

delulu

[@VanCityGal]

"He's growing up." The man is 30 😂

[@crystalsnow1138]

Suga is actually 31, but ya he's been grown.

[@quatzxice]

He's actually a grampa

[@VanCityGal]

@@quatzxice 😂💜

[@SnehaYadav-l5g]

I will correct two things here. 1)- his BAC level is yet not revealed. 2)- most of those who are demanding for his removal are fans of other groups, one who is sending truck for removal of Suga is proven to be a NCT fan .

[@arianne494]

It was not a proven NCT fan. This is the problem. Y'all attack others like piranhas with no proof or anything. Just rumors.

[@SnehaYadav-l5g]

@@arianne494 shut up. She herself accidentally revealed her email id and karmys and i- army's even found her twitter acc . There is literally a vid proof you can see.

[@SnehaYadav-l5g]

And it's not like they saw and said " yeah this is her acc " No they verified and matched this I'd from many places .It even matches with the id she used to buy NCT album or fan meating.

[@SnehaYadav-l5g]

@@arianne494" just a roumer " 👊🏻. Her id matched from the id she use to buy NCT products . Her name was even on the list who attended NCT fan metting.

[@SnehaYadav-l5g]

You people act like army's are bunch of 15-20 yr old girls. When infact you will find all kinds of professions in this fandom .

[@reeniethepooh]

Suga’s BAC was never confirmed by any Korean authority. The BAC being repeated in the media comes from unconfirmed sources.

[@Bubba-875]

i originally thought BAC stood for something else lol Big Asian...

[@Mr-pn2eh]

Ateez's mingi is a better rapper than suga

[@laurahilliker5336]

@Mr-pn2eh, Mingi from ATEEZ is a better rapper than Suga a.k.a Agust D? And what facts and proofs do you have that he is a better rapper just by making a statement doesn’t make it factual ! Well let me give you some facts here about Suga /Agust D : he has to mix tapes and a solo physical album that was in the top billboard 100 not the Korean charts but the US Billboard chart, he did a solo world tour D-Day by himself. Sold out every concert venue! The man is a producer and composer and he’s an award-winning producer not just for his own group BTS but he has gotten awards from writing and composing music for other Korean artist he has got collaborations with Halsey and MAX ,AMERICAN MUSIC Artist. Korean music artist, that he’s collaborated with is Soren , Epik High and IU! If it wasn’t for BTS fourth and fifth generation K-pop groups such as ATEEZ would have not been excepted in the United States and other Western countries BTS paved the way! Hey I’m not knocking Mingi he’s a pretty good rapper but he’s nowhere near the genius of SUGA! He also plays a piano and compose his music and the guitar I don’t think Benji plays any musical instruments if I’m wrong then correct me. First of all I don’t understand why you trolls wanna come on a KZbin channel comment section that discuss BTS or a single member like Suga, throw your negativities and shade by making a statement like “Mingi from ATEEZ is a better rapper than Suga” I don’t expect a response but if you do what could you possibly say in defense!!

[@Yoongis_Chapstick]

​@@laurahilliker5336 🤌✨💜💜💜💜💜

[@VictoriaLovesMusic]

​@@Mr-pn2ehin what world lmao

[@NamHar7n]

The fan group Army starting streaming his music heavy and put six of his songs in the top ten on platforms. He has made $$$$$$ over this.

[@travis1271]

considering their success they haven’t made much money

[@hd7704]

​@@travis1271They've conservatively made several tens of millions each. Prove another member of a boy band in any country has done better

[@mkyang0447]

Fall off a scooter: Jail, write hundreds of articles about him, shame him, leave the band SA and Murder: Ohh that's it. No big deal Wouldn't be surprised if they used his accident to cover up more serious crimes happening in Korea.

[@Mr-pn2eh]

Go to jail

[@tracybrunner863]

They did in fact use it to cover up more serious crimes. SM idol let go after SA (now multiple complaints), Kakao CEO arrest for corruption, investigator mysterious death who is investigating the president’s wife for bribery, drunk drive (of a car & causing property damage) by another idol and there are a few more.

[@namitales]

Burning Sun.. Ahem..

[@tracybrunner863]

@@namitales yep and they are all out of jail now & trying to make comebacks/trying to open another club 🤬. If you haven’t watch Rotten Mangos videos on the burning sun (3 in total) very informative, especially with new info that has came out or was glossed over originally

[@namitales]

@@tracybrunner863 yeah i’ve been keeping up with it for the longest time, seeing the aftermath of all that is just disgusting. Seeing these monsters get released and get cozy with girls just made my blood boil, I’m glad Stephanie mentioned that too.

[@jbotosan]

I’m so clumsy that with that turn, i woulda fallen over the e-scooter…sober. People needed to relax.

[@girlonahunt6424]

I crashed an escooter on a straight road 😅

[@adeleneliu1179]

​@girlonahunt6424 Lol, now, that's clumsy.😂 Haha, my friend did the same😂.

[@GYSMelanie5]

Me too

[@SS_642]

​​you are talking about e scooter 🛴, i crashed my patrol scooter 🛵 or some call is a motorcycle or motor scooty while turning like that as suga did And i also had my mom sitting at the back😅 That too in the daylight and i was completely sober bcz i never drank alcohol in my entire life 😅

[@GYSMelanie5]

@SS_642 they treated suga wrong for that. Leave that man alone.

[@Nahyun04]

TBH, As an ARMY I can confirm that Suga was a human being and he is the same like everybody in this world. When I heard the NEWS, I can only laugh cause the K-media made everything like it was a big deal and also the pics that ARMY edit are so funny😂

[@eileencritchley4630]

BigHit/HYBE are suing the JTCB and other new outlets that's lied so as Suga say's 'I don't have to worry the company will sue, more money for my coffee fund' that's our savage kitten.

[@sandyg4646]

ok but for real though....getting a DUI on a scooter is pretty f*cking hilarious.

[@Mr-pn2eh]

Ikr

[@menohero_menovillian]

As an Army, I agree. And knowing Suga's personality, he's probably gonna suffer more from his friends' trolling him than anything else. But the public consensus is, he drank and "drove" so that's a big no-no. Which I understand. But there are severity levels, and his is super low. He didnt deserve the amount of shit that came from the incident

[@VictoriaLovesMusic]

it would've been had people not tried to make him self exit for it. many initially laughed until we saw koreans and media making it worse than hitting someone with a car. this is the same thing that killed Mr Lee from parasite.

[@rosanmokhtar3736]

As an ARMY, we DO agree.. It's fcking ridiculous..

[@chrissys477]

Just one thing while im still watching, his BAC level was never confirmed by the police.

[@ghostchaos]

Doesn't matter at this point. The public court of opinion, especially K-pop fans, has already been determined.

[@Exentaser]

@@ghostchaos@ghostchaos No one cares about the K-popies and their two-cent opinions on X. The case is closed. Korean GP are criticizing the media as well because of the fake news and absurdity of the situation. JTBS apologized, as well as some other media outlets and JTBS were sanctioned as well. At this point, I only hope Yoongi is in a good mental state and sees that ARMYs, mainly international ARMYs, are loud and they created a lot of amazing projects.

[@VictoriaLovesMusic]

​@@ghostchaospublic opinion of kpop fans doesn't matter bts fans are not kpop fans. bts fans are army and only their opinion is what matters because they're the ones bringing in the money to the label. the law already said it was a minor thing and if media didn't report false information it wouldn't have ever taken this long for close the case it would've been done the same night they literally sent him home and didn't take him into the station for a blood test this means it was very close to the limit just a bit over.

[@chrissys477]

​​@@ghostchaos oh absolutely, but ryan was saying it like its a fact, but it isnt because the police havent confirmed. (They just said it was over the legal amount and that could be 1 drink or 100 too much)

[@ghostchaos]

@@chrissys477 Ahhhh… I see your perspective

[@tinac86]

That BAC level was never confirmed, it was just published without verification from the media.

[@aa-bz8jg]

it is confirmed crazy lady😅

[@tinac86]

@@aa-bz8jg There was zero confirmation from the police, the only “crazy” thing here is the witch hunt over a traffic violation.

[@jaewoonniekim]

just to add: his BAC level has not even been confirmed. if a person’s BAC is at 0.227 you should be on a hospital bed. he actually just tripped too not bc he was ‘drunk’ 💀🤡 the k-media rlly jst slandered and dragged him through the mud jst bc he is a part of BTS. its nonsense fr and k-media rlly is such a joke 🤮 PS: today they finalised his penalty with just a fine, and nothing else. pretty sure his BAC levels were low.

[@JGtaebias]

When the news first broke his blood alcohol level was .008

[@Sugas_Girr]

​@@JGtaebias NO, it was not. If it had been 0.008% as you stated, there would have never been an issue at all in the first place. It would have to be at least 0.03% for them to even say ANYTHING about him being under the influence of alcohol at all. You guys out here just constantly spreading all kinds of misinformation. 🙄🤦🏻‍♀️

[@secretyidentity2833]

⁠ his BAC was never stated bc he didnt go to the police station that night, he was free to go home, no one took his blood to analyze anything. His BREATH alcohol content was AT LEAST (min) 0.08% bc his license was revoked that night and that is the threshold for that punishment in SK. And upon watching the REAL CCTV footage you see he got up BY HIMSELF 3 seconds upon failing from his scooter, if his BAC were anywhere near 0.2% the expected affects are los of consciousness, lack of comprehension, cardiac and respiratory distress and non-responsive, which is made VERY CLEAR by the video that that was NOT the state Suga was in. So, NO his BAC was no where NEAR 0.2% and you ppl should stop believing and perpetuating LIES you read on a headline of gossip Korea forum and do actual research.

[@shamkand]

@@Sugas_Girr Depends on country... In mine is 0 tolerance, so that means even if you drink a bit but you are not drunk and the thing detects any amount of alcohol, while on a bike or anything like that you are fined. But the commenter added a I think accidentally wrote it wrong, it was said to be 0.08. But there is no official answer, so the media was writing lies.

[@Sugas_Girr]

@@shamkand We are not talking about YOUR country. In KOREA, the current law's BAC limit for driving is 0.03%. This limit applies to operators of both motor vehicles and of personal transportation devices. The only thing we know for sure, was that it was somewhere at or above 0.03%. Although, we can SPECULATE, or make an assumption that it was most likely somewhere between 0.08%-0.20%, just based on the penalties he was dealt, but there was no official statement ever released (as far as I know) confirming the exact breathalyzer reading. I don't know why people are spreading this crap about it actually being 0.08% or 0.008%, when that wasn't even the number that the media was incorrectly spreading (0.227%).

[@YasYasARMY]

ARMY is of all Ages

[@Mr-pn2eh]

That's a problem

[@VictoriaLovesMusic]

​@@Mr-pn2ehwhy is that a problem

[@YasYasARMY]

@@Mr-pn2eh no it's not

[@flovonnejohnson707]

​@@Mr-pn2ehwhy is it a problem for people of all ages to listen to artists who sing and rap about things like self love, self development & growth, mental health(depression, social anxiety ECT), societal issues, criticism of the older and younger generation, and songs inspired by psychology books and other literature?

[@rosanmokhtar3736]

​​WHY IS THE PROBLEM? BCS WE ARE NOT KPOP FANS? WE ONLY LOVE BTS, THAT'S THE PROBLEM? ​@@Mr-pn2eh

[@jesss757]

You guys are really sweet 😊 thank you for speaking up. Seriously… what they did to SUGA in the past month was kicking someone who they already pushed to the ground. As fans we felt numband helples. Not exaggerating. They made him appear in front of the police station and took pics of him while he apologized to these cameras and bowed looking like a criminal. Now this pic will be used every time they write about him. They shamed him. Army’s all over the world now take his side and fight the media in Korea. We got dispatch’s X acc blocked. Several media outlets had to apologize to Yoongi on camera and take the video down. Still , the damage is done. Also no Army told him to leave. Someone collected donations and bought funeral wreaths to put in front of Hybe and tell SUGA to leave BTS. That flower shop , upps, revealed a name and we found out it was a person from another fandom. She’s a NCT fan. Her Pinterest page was full of them. But claims to be an Army. Not in our book girl.

[@GYSMelanie5]

It was absolutely what they did to him

[@thomaschristopherwhite9043]

The Korean entertainment industry is absolutely insane.

[@FirstLast-yj1hp]

Not as demonic as Hollywood 😂

[@thomaschristopherwhite9043]

@@FirstLast-yj1hp Nah. I think it's worse. Hollywood is western and westerners are quick to say something, call out something, quick to get in your face about something if they don't like it. There's a reason why abusive people in power started dropping like flies. Korea isn't like that and their entire industry isn't multiple bodies comprising of one industry, it's just one giant cult that controls products and profits. Otherwise why would these Kpop idols get drafted as teens and undergo extensive training and plastic surgery if there were other competing parties within the industry that wouldn't do that. It's the whole reason why American music and production have so much variety and the pop scene in Korea presents like they have variety but it's just one big thing.

[@badbutgood-d4q]

@@FirstLast-yj1hp lmaooo bruh if you think the kpop industry isn't as crazy as hollywood pffft u havent been paying attention to the Burning Sun Scandal at all. There's tons of idol suicides, rapes, underage trafficking, drugs, murder, smearing campaigns etc etc probably worse than current Hollywood nowadays tbh

[@loveaintfree1409]

@@FirstLast-yj1hp yep hollywood wokefest garbage

[@secretyidentity2833]

And so are K-pop stans

[@sunsoup7392]

ARMY ARE FUCKING PISSED. They literally did a black ocean against Korean Media and had a list of companies to not engage with regarding BTS because of how K Media was covering this "incident". BTS ARMY is ruthless. 😂💜

[@heathernile4700]

Those 3 people that came up after he fell were patrolling officers that reported it. The antis leaving wreaths and junk are confirmed to be NCT fans and other fandoms. The news channel "Kpop Shock" is very honorable and trustworthy.

[@Sugas_Girr]

Stop denying the actual facts that have come to light so far... The organizer does seem to be a fan of NCT, but they also seemed to show ample proof that they were indeed ARMY as well. You guys just like to use that excuse of "Oh, they weren't 'real' ARMY", any time one of your toxic ARMYs do something awful, so as to avoid any type of accountability or responsibility. It's really a bad look. 😒

[@ruthfischer7615]

@@Sugas_Girr You can find those pic everywhere on the internet and post them as yours. We have proof that they are an NCT fan we have zip that they were ever a fan of BTS. I give you a hint: I SK it is almost impossible to be both.

[@Whyyougottabethisway]

His scooter operated at 800 watts . That's the same as a toaster.

[@MidnightxCrow]

Bts don't really follow that clean image you all think of ...they have always been doing whatever they want as long as it's not illegal... it's just non-fans who have those stereotypes about them

[@shamkand]

clean image? They are just normal people...

[@marirezende8478]

​@@shamkand Yeah compared to other celebrities

[@user-nh5iz8xu7y]

@@shamkandI think they are talking about idol level clean image

[@shamkand]

@user-nh5iz8xu7y Yes, but that image is the same as in the West fake. People know that they are not innocent and perfect ( in general). I never believed they are innocent. For example, I kept laughing all the time when I saw videos about JK and people kept saying he was scared of women and that he was innocent...

[@kimyoung3160]

The ones who left the funeral wreaths outside and the van demanding Suga leave the group were actually fans of another group pretending to be fans and Suga has always rapped about his raw emotions and experiences..so do the other rappers in their solo works

[@Sugas_Girr]

Yes, the 3 black clad men that came up immediately behind him on the street, were the policeman that "apprehended" him.

[@Vincisomething]

Suga's name is pronounced like a colloquial spelling of "sugar" but it also comes from "shooting guard" which was his favorite position in basketball. So, "shoo-ga". He has used candy/sweet puns for his name too.

[@AuntieShortyp]

Appreciate the Careful Boyz Coverage on Suga(Shoo-ga), meaning shooting guard, which is the position he plays and loves in basketball. I am really happy ya'll stuck to your true selves on this one. I love this era more than anything. Keeps me laughing as always.

[@badbutgood-d4q]

Stephanie Soo really opened up my eyes about how messed up S Korean's justice system is. I wanted to visit but after hearing tragedies of over 1500+ students burning alive, 1200+ being trampled to death, 100s of women (underage too) being sexually violated/beat & trafficked due to police laziness & even insulting the victims & their families smh when they find the people who caused these crimes the judges do not punish them even when the crime makes news headlines. Misogyny is very alive w the victims being sl*t-shamed (when they were drugged or kidnapped against their will) by even the judge to their faces in court... I can't man

[@hd7704]

Wow. By this proclaimed standard, I guess you have to exit the US immediately!!! 😂 So smart, so brave, so non-hypocritical!

[@badbutgood-d4q]

@@hd7704 what r u talking about?? I'm talking about s korea's laws not the US??? u.s.a is flawed as well but the sheer obnoxious way skorea's justice system tells the public how much they don't care about their innocent victims is horrid & they have no shame admitting it too dude

[@berbatovdimitar3130]

@@badbutgood-d4q Dude in the us Chris brown is still pursuing his music after beating Rihanna If a korean idol did that he would get cancelled. It would be fucking ridiculous for someone not to visit the us because of Epstein’s island situation, Hollywood sextrafficing, diddy’s sexual abuse. And about crimes against women the us’s femicide rate is 6 times higher than Korea’s . A women likelihood of getting murdered is 6 times higher in America. Well maybe you should be living somewhere else like the other person said

[@BangtanTrash44]

Yea as a JK fan & Army this shit was blown out of proportion because it was confirmed that the Korean Media published false reports and to top it off the Anti- fans pretended to be Army’s pushing to kick him out but really it was just anti’s, BTS will always be 7. It sucks because 6 of the members are still doing their Military Service and they can’t make public appearances. But for those that have been long time fans we just gotta trust BigHit to handle it like they’ve always done.

[@sandyg4646]

another reason why fandom is toxic as f**k

[@BoostTwist]

​@@sandyg4646 Fandom? Which Fandom r u talking abt?

[@hd7704]

​@@BoostTwist Some insecure dudes just hate all fandoms involving Asian artists 😂😂😂

[@Ha-young_is_Just_Too_Fine]

His Blood Alcohol Level hadn't been revealed the 0.227 was made up by Korean Media Also the fan's that were leaving Suga leave BTS were acrually rival group stan's, NCT to be exact

[@Sugas_Girr]

It was an ARMY, that happened to also be an NCT fan. Stop trying to cover up the truth.

[@JinJuneOut-ld1jn]

So if someone goes to a Trump rally and is wearing a Democrat hat and pin - you're the person who will scream at the media that Democrats are voting for Trump. Sorry to inform you that the majority of BTS fans (ARMY) are not kpop fans. And try to think critically. The money it takes to send the amount of trucks and wreaths involved cost way more than one average person could afford.

[@ruthfischer7615]

@@JinJuneOut-ld1jn Yes, and? They collect money, too. Not to mention that MHJ pays for black marketing and this was a good opportunity.

[@ruthfischer7615]

@@Sugas_Girr Everyone can pretend to be an Army. On social media it is easy: Find pics someone posted of their collection and post. No real Army would post that nonsense and in SK it is pretty impossible to be a fan of both NCT and BTS.

[@HOusEoFsiERRa]

K-poppies were trippin' and calling him "Agust DUI." 🤦‍♀😂

[@ghostchaos]

Where were these fans during Burning Sun? And I don't mean kicking them (the idols responsible, not BTS) off of K-pop... I mean literal justice and not this lenient shit.

[@yoonmin_1913]

tbh, i should not say anything coz at this moment there are somewhat article/news that its been finalizing on what will be the punishment for his actions, (hoping for just penalty/fine) but 1. the funeral wreaths (flowers) that "fans" put infront of HYBE (there agency) is NOT from ARMY (BTS FANS)... they have been proofs that it was from ANOTHER FANDOM that masking as bts fans.. 2. the alcohol level has never been said in public nor been confirmed by authorities.... 3. the fact that SUGAs case has been blown out soo much yet ANOTHER IDOL from a different group (and agency) is being accused of SA "allegedly" (not very clear as to what exactly) ... mind you he was investigated since JUNE... is not been taken seriously by the police and/or government is still baffles me till this day...

[@RoseNZieg]

you forgot. in Korea, SA is much lower on the totem pole of crimes. drunk driving is serious business.

[@yoonmin_1913]

@@RoseNZieg and that is the sad and unfortunate reality in sk... women there dont get the respect that they deserve... but then again, many people got away with drunk driving with people getting hurt (i saw somewhere there is an idol or idols who did)... and SUGA isnt driving, many people corrected it that he is RIDING it at the sidewalk..

[@CaringCarebear]

Man that is so messed up smh. Everybody ( especially knetizens) are attacking suga for drunk driving a scooter but not many are talking about taeil. I kinda want to see jk discuss the taeil situation. I'd really like to hear their input.

[@zv8365]

The blood alcohol level was not true. It was never disclosed by the police. Also, if it had been that high, I don't think he would have been able to get up that fast. It was made up by antis/k-media. The video of "him driving drunk" that caused the uproar is not the one you showed. K-media had a video of someone else and without verification that it was really Suga, broadcasted it as it being him. No, it was not his solo fans or ARMY that protested with the reefs and such, but rather Antis and fans of another group from a different company. All those hate comments are not from ARMY, but the antis. He got dragged through the mud by Kmedia and antis. The case is closed now and all Suga got was a fine., like how it should had been the whole time.

[@faith6833]

It was solo stans or haters. No true ARMY would do the things they did to hurt SUGA.

[@MidnightxCrow]

Not even that, they were fans of other groups...and there are even big companies behind this smear campaign because this is their chance to ruin BTS

[@faith6833]

@@MidnightxCrow I don't doubt that one bit

[@jesss757]

It was an NCT fan. army found it out after doing detective work. That person claims she’s also an army though… well not from our pov your not

[@davidaditya535]

all Korean media tried to drop BTS's name with fake news when they were serving in the military, but people forgot they worked harder before military service, the solo members prepared an album before they were drafted into the military and almost all of their songs were hits, who by Jimin is number one on billboard, rm collaborates with megan staillon, and jung kook becomes the first asian artist to reach 7 billion streams on spotify. I hope as an asian person u should pay attention to them as an artist, they made a lot of banger❤

[@ruthfischer7615]

* first solo artist

[@blxcklab]

Anti-fans trended the #SugaChallenge were ppl were picturing themselves with alcoholic bottles while driving. There was a police who also DUI with a scooter....he got scott free from day 1. Anyway, when this happened, the first lady was in a corruption scandal. The guy handling the investigation died.

[@menohero_menovillian]

The BTS members are full grown men. The youngest member just turned 27 and released a song saying how he’ll F seven days a week. “Every hour, every minute, every second” to be exact 😂😂 RM and Suga have been bad boys before their debut. They were respected underground rappers before they joined BTS. They always call out people that disrespect them, the group, or the fans. And they can be savage if needed. RM even called out Ellen degenerate and James Cordon on their own shows respectfully. They are not your “perfect idols”, and they never claimed to be. They have always advocated for authenticity

[@crystalsnow1138]

I've never looked at RM or Suga as "bad boys" they are human who make mistakes and like you said authentic. I don't know if I would call them bad boys just because they can be savage at times, they are still pretty straight laced compared to a lot of people.

[@goeienacht]

This is so damn dumb. Regular people, aka army, are the only ones who know Suga tripping on his scooter was literally no big deal. None of us even wanted him to apologize in the first place -_-

[@eileencritchley4630]

Bully artist in South Korean has driven many to suiduce they have the biggest suiduce rate in the world.

[@Vincisomething]

Surprised and not surprised jk is covering this if that makes sense

[@achhsooo9480]

Well, Yoongi has always had a Bad Boy persona since 2015, He has been cursing and talking his shit since a decade, Its not a rebrand but A media Witch Hunt cayse they want BTS down. Also Army that is BTS's Fans were always with him, Its antis, Competing companies that went after him.

[@shanajey17]

im a justkidding fan and an bts fan army so its dope to see yall talk about this. whats crazy about this is that suga got backlash from the media and antis because of the drunk incident on the scooter whilst an actual criminal and sexual assulter called seungri from big bang was let out after a few years from jail. and the surge of sexual assault in korea that happened is awful to hear yet the kmedia and antis focus on a drunk incident rather than focusing more on the actual criminals.

[@ros4645]

Nope it was rival fans. Proven now to be fans of NCT. Also blood level was .008. The media lied, the antis went all out with lies. Army has come out fighting.

[@GYSMelanie5]

As they should

[@jlan4019]

I havent clicked on a jkn video this fast in my lifeee .

[@carmelafernandez1587]

It's funny how you're making fun of Suga branding himself as a 'bad boy' for his next music. Try listening to his solo songs, and you'll see he's one of the best rappers in South Korea. His solo tracks are dark and deep, so 'bad boy' isn't accurate. In one of his other music videos, he even stabs a guy with chopsticks.

[@Sugas_Girr]

Suga is DEFINITELY not the goody two shoes type that people that don't know him might assume!!! Yes, he is one of the most decent & good human beings I know of, but definitely not the goody goody pansy type!!! 😂

[@carmelafernandez1587]

@@Sugas_Girr hahaha legit! Rebranding as the bad boy is sooo funny 😁

[@classical7]

My dudes....it's pronounced like SHOO GAH....first syllables of shooting guard, his favorite position in basketball aka spelled SUGA. Hope that helps. 💜

[@SANKY18011]

what even more surprising is that the people who were asking him to leave the group are still asking him to leave the group.

[@linseyv0613]

If you think about it that is not surprising cuz it wasn't us Army in the first place kpopies end of other groups trying to sabotage

[@zeestanwar1041]

Cuz they never were fans to begin with. They were just haters who got an excuse to shit on him

[@aishwaryaahirrao]

Cuz they are not fans.. it's kpopies and antis

[@Department_of_Justice]

ARMY to Kmedia: FAFO No, those were NOT ARMY. That has been proven.

[@kpoca914]

People legitimately want him to go to jail shits crazy

[@theianlau]

The media deffo would have went even more wild if he wasn't wearing a helmet

[@lanasoso5330]

It wasn’t BTS fans who did that , it was an NTC fan. By the way I don’t know this K pop group and this person now could be sued of disruption of business and it could be jailed for five years, and you could do a reaction on a video about this matter discussed very well by a channel called Bora city magazine and it’s about k media over sensationalizing news, other than telling the truth , and there is a big cases going on now between idols being related to sexual assault from NTC, which is belong to a company called SM and they have a big influence on media and they may have a hand to blow this out of proportion , and ironically, the IDOL, who already been mentioned as part of NTC and there is a war going on now with a subsidiary company of hype that the CEO been caught trying to embezzle money and take over the subsidiary company and there is messages between her and her accomplices talking about a smear campaign against hype and BTS so there’s multiple people going in full force after BTS and their company there’s a lot going on. I don’t think you will get anything from what I just said, but this is part of it.

[@joaniewwh3502]

What's most irritating is some antis posted as fake armys and said bad stuff. Meanwhile, real armys streamed his music, bought them, and raised hashtags and other communications to support suga. Also, maybe it's best to stop generalizing... koreans, fans, etc. Individuals acted differently under this circumstance.

[@JoanneGarcia]

It’s Shu-ga … short for Shooting Guard.

[@divyangivalvi05]

Alcohol level is not correct, they show more on news

[@lifewithnikkifin]

Army's never wanted suga gone. It was allot of other fandoms possing as fans. It was pretty serious cause the media went crazy with it. Making it prime news when there is a whole murder scandal that involves the presidents wife. And a women found dead in the back of a cop car yet kmedia made it all about him. Two reporters were fired for the fake allegations and now you pick just posted a photo of only 6 members after they won an award.

[@rubydelta6]

bruh so he got so many things wrong on this situation, first it wasn't fans demanding he get kicked out it was what the fandom refers to as anti's or hater's of BTS. Second fans did send flowers and others things outside of Hybe which is not a rival company Big Hit is part of Hybe, but they were sent to demonstrate support and comfort to Suga by the fans (army). Army knew everything was being blown out of porportion and were upset at the apology Suga released because the fandom felt he didn't really have anything to apologize for and was trying hard to show him we weren't upset with him and were actually on his side.

[@tiaralongkumer5028]

Didn't think I would hear "Army is pretty old, right?…" 😭🤣

[@martidmarshall]

Finally, something I can speak on lol I'm a fan of BTS and Yoongi (Suga) was caught with a level of at least 0.03 but the police have not said anything publicly yet and turned their results over to the prosecution department. Korean media has been acting like the tabloids and running several unverified stories with "reliable" sources. They delete the reports days or weeks later hoping that no one will take action as they cover up another story out there. I hope that after all this is over that Yoongi and Hybe, the company, start suing news media outlets left and right and leave them all penniless. The fact that their venom of untrue information has been said with a "trust me bro" mentality is insanity. Karma will come for them all in the end. I'm sorry that he had to go through this but I still show concern about driving anything drunk. I don't think that he has to be crucified for driving the electric scooter mainly on the sidewalk. I feel like he should have a fine or citation but people are expecting him to get the max sentence of going to jail for like 5 years along with leaving his group. There were even stories popping up that he's not doing his job as in his appointed leadership role in the military as a result as well, all of the stories that emerged seem like baseless rumors. If he does any jail time for not obstructing or destroying anything, running over or worse killing someone, what are we doing as an entire planet? If he gets that sentence then I hope no one FARTS in the wrong direction because Army will be watching and find them. They're condemning their entire country, they will suffocate by their own laws...

[@sandyg4646]

"heir venom of untrue information has been said with a "trust me bro" mentality is insanity" i think that is all media in existence right now

[@Sugas_Girr]

The court already came back with their judgement. There will be NO jail time (ridiculous that was even brought up, imo), and only a fine will be incurred (1 preliminary report said between 5-20 thousand USD, but I heard another report after that saying it will be approx. 10 thousand USD.) So thankful this whole stupid situation is finally over and done with. Hopefully the media and "fans" will finally shut up and move on to actual important issues now, than just an idol falling off a friggin' kickboard.

[@martidmarshall]

@@Sugas_Girr Thank you for the update! Thank goodness, imagine just breathing and someone hates you for sucking in the same air as them 🙄

[@Sugas_Girr]

​@@martidmarshall 😘👍🏻 I know, it's seriously crazy... I'm Korean, but the way K-media and law enforcement moves against any celebrities (even when innocent!), absolutely infuriates me!!! And don't get me started on the psycho fans, antis, haters, whatever...and they are definitely NOT limited to just Koreans, since the international fans/antis/haters are just as bad, if not worse a lot of the time.

[@SDOTFILMS]

Yeeerrr... Suga for the W.

[@eileencritchley4630]

Death Wraths were left outside the HYBE Building and ARMY tracked down who sent them and it was fandom from another Kpop company but we aren't going to name name's.

[@Max25670]

Damn, either way he was so close to making it, he was literally outside his home!

[@akhirahsparkle3384]

Ikr

[@marirezende8478]

Lol guys BTS has always done whatever they want as long as it isn't illegal, they're not too far from american celebrities regarding this

[@MewDenise]

This time around, the majority of ARMYs are atleast 30 now. But BTS are gaining new fans everyday so

[@pjmbyul]

It was NOT fans talking bad about him, but antis and Korean media.

[@threevy77]

BTS is 7.. APOBANGPO 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜

[@BeautifulDreamerK]

I’m not even a big fan or ARMY but there’s a lot of misinformation here. BTS isn’t some sort of boy band that’s viewed like Western boy bands. They’re close to their 30’s and their fans are NOT teeny bopper teenagers. BTS fans range from those in their 20’s to 70’s/80’s, even older. Wished you could’ve watched and explanation video on the whole situation with Suga and Korean culture + shame and the sad lives of k-pop idols. I appreciate Subin’s insights.

[@crystalsnow1138]

Did you mean aren't teeny boppy teenagers? Because most BTS fans aren't in their teens, BTS fans are of all ages.

[@BeautifulDreamerK]

@@crystalsnow1138 yes. Thanks for the correction. I had a typo. Fixing it right now

[@BeautifulDreamerK]

@@crystalsnow1138 love your handle too! 💜

[@crystalsnow1138]

@@BeautifulDreamerK You're welcome.

[@crystalsnow1138]

@@BeautifulDreamerK Thank you so much.

[@phiromthach550]

Joe was talking about when B.I was caught trying to buy weed. He left IKON as the leader and was a former writer of the year in Korea. He actually bounced back as a solo artist and is well respected by American artists and internationally now.

[@hlubvaj5758]

Shooting Guard. Shoo-Ga! He likes basketball.

[@zuriatiabdullah7347]

He should be charged RUI not DUI. So if you’re walking under the influence of alcohol that is o.227% in South Korea will you be charged too.

[@ruthfischer7615]

You can walk with that BAC? Most people would be in hospital. (Yoongi's BAC is unknown)

[@suzy7645]

Thanks for supporting Suga and bringing up the 💩the media and antis put him through. 😊

[@alicewakashima1442]

7:42 INSFIRE 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@sashi710]

We army know from where that reference is lol

[@ananyaa6664]

"You know what? They're just Koreans!" Pretty much sums up what I have been wanting to say since the Suga incident!

[@linseyv0613]

It's funny because the guy when he first found out what suga was riding is what army first thought until the media and the anti-fans took it too far! and then he is exactly right Army detectives went to work!we know that he did wrong but the treatment that he's received is so beyond right. It wasn't us Army will never want suga to hurt or to leave also what needs to be said is he didn't have to apologize to us he came to us first even before the news even broke he did not not post on any other social media he posted it on weverse that is our platform where Army is. He did not have to do that. Also Army did start a love campaign called a thousand letters for suga we wrote handwritten letters of love and support to him his first fan meeting with BTS he hand wrote 1000 individualized letters to army and then he turns around and he writes a handwritten letter. No disrespect but you guys should really if you're going to talk about this you should talk about the support highlight the supportive comments and not just the bad ones there is a chance that he could see this video and if he does he deserves to see love and support

[@carolynfranklin4865]

It's been proven those were hated fans sent flowers.Several celebrities have killed themself,because you commit crime stand in front of hundred reporters bow apologize.Suga bow refuse to speak.A Netflix Emmy wining actor last year drug scandal now apologize commit suicide next day.We were worried about Suga spoke in pass about mental illness Good news today only a fine People still support him The NBA in America announce today he still spokeperson

[@juliom777]

The Kirkland bottle on the desk 😂

[@SingaJay]

Warning, long but hopefully helpful! Never watched you before but you came up on my feed. You might already be familiar with the info I'm dropping, but again maybe not. A.R.M.Y is 90 + million strong ranging from babies (not kidding) to 80+ years old (I'm 56), of all colours, creeds and from all professions (Dr's, Profs, Teachers, Lawyers etc) so we're kinda grown ups! 😂 However with such a large fandom you'll get the crazzies of course, but in this case it was anti's pretending to be ARMY's calling for Suga's (as in Shoo Ga from shooting guard, his favourite position when playing basketball). We're a loyal fandom because we stand by BTS through all the nonsense they've had to go through since day 1. They came from humble beginnings, and BigHit their label in 2013, almost went bankrupt. They were forced to find alternative means to interact with people hence were the first in K-Pop, to get X accounts and vlog on KZbin as the Big 3 K-Pop Companies in SK at the time ran everything. They have a visual entertainment structure (as in TV, in the West it was music through Radio) so the big 3 could control who got to perform on air, mainly their own acts who also won all the awards. BTS almost didn't debut but were a filler for an act that couldn't perform on the music TV channel that day. And the rest is history. The underdog triumphs!! They were attacked every step of the way as people couldn't believe a small company like theirs could make it. But through those vlogs we got to know them as people (youngsters really, the youngest was 15 years old and the oldest 20 in 2013) and with their humility, ethics, good morals, hard work and genuine love for the fans, we fell in love with them. Thankfully they haven't changed with all the fame and fortune! Some still don't think Asians are all that (totally disagree of course), it's sad to say that even today they still go through it, even with the Western press. So yes, this is all to explain WHY ARMY's are so passionate and why we stick with them. There are no divas amongst them and they don't lie to ARMY's, hence Suga's saga was a real trial both for us and for them. The 7 members are a strong genuine loving brotherhood because they bonded through all the trauma growing up (went through the trenches together so to speak) and we are close because ARMY also went through it. Other fandoms gathered together over those years to stop their growth, in fact tried everything. For example, when V shared that his grandmother had passed away (she raised him) and he cried when telling the fans at a concert, the anti's hopped on board and were so brutal to the extent that from that day onwards HYBE (BigHit became Hybe due to their success) will go after anyone with unfounded derogatory attacks or misinformation through the legal system. So you can see that even till today, Suga's situation shows that the SK Press and these people (who should have grown up as well) haven't left the building but are still determined and just as sick to attack a person to this extent. Including the media (still under the control of the now not-so-big 3 as Hybe is now greater than them combined) and other political interests. With the death of the Parasite actor through the same media bullying, you would think they'd have learnt something. But even after all the evidence that came out proving Suga's honesty, they hardly made any apology, the damage was already done and I guess their aims were achieved. This wasn't rag tag press but the country's leading stations. Sickening really and very disappointing but not surprising in this current world we are in. I hope you guys do appreciate in general BTS's contribution to world culture as Asian artists at the top of the world. To be honest, I never really thought much about my Asian brothers and sisters worldwide, but I can honestly say that now I do because of them. We all matter and are all precious. They have literarily saved lives. If you ever want to make a deep dive into them there's Taylor Mari's Introduction to the Bangtan 7 and also xCeleste's Hardship video covering some of the issues mentioned. Or there is a terrific series called Rise of Bangtan which chronicles them from even before pre-debut to around 2018-9 and also gives you a picture into the K-Pop world with historical perspectives. Boracity channel brings the receipts to all her video and shows the effect BTS has had culturally and within the music industry worldwide. They truly are worth looking into further, the English press haven't named them the new Beatles or other press the successors to Michael Jackson for no reason! We agree, but they feel they're not worthy of such titles, but nevertheless, it's true. Hope you do take a look, will keep an eye out in hopes you do! Thank you for putting up with this long comment, hope it clarifies a few things and raises interest in them, always want to spread the love of these amazing and beautiful human beings who never wronged a soul!

[@Blastermanx]

Gonna need a Korean history channel to explain k rage

[@jsungk5]

I want to hear more about Subin's brother B-Free. He got canceled for dissing RM and Suga in person

[@Vincisomething]

I've wondered what he's been doing or what he thought when they started getting awards lol

[@menohero_menovillian]

Didn't B-Free go to jail?

[@Sugas_Girr]

@@menohero_menovillian That's what I thought too?! Not saying it's a fact though (because I never personally looked into confirming it), but that was definitely going around for some time though.

[@bangtanbootie]

hang on, the special guest Subin is B-Free's brother??

[@Sugas_Girr]

@@bangtanbootie That's what he said before in another video. 😂

[@elivile.]

The Korean media are dramatic as fuck. As well as the antis. I'm a multifan of different groups and I find the "battle" against other groups to be so damn stupid. I'm a 31 year old ARMY and this shit's always started by Gen Z. Like bro, a good amount of NCTzens are being just.. ugh. I'm also an NCTzen and I just can't get behind that bullshit.

[@melissaaguilar7459]

The funny thing is NCT member just recently is under investigation for SA and it is not really in the k media news.

[@MewDenise]

He did his apology and people got angry when army accepted it. We got so pissed when the media forced him to apologize AGAIN

[@apobangpo5921]

His BAC levels wasn't confirmed. Kmedia r famous for spreading misinformations.

[@Sugas_Girr]

"Koreans ARE aggressive, though..." 😂 Haha, yes, a lot of stems from "Han", but also a lot of it is just because we are very, very passionate about EVERYTHING, both with our love and our anger. 🤗

[@loveaintfree1409]

total bullshit !! 뭔 개소리여 ㅋㅋㅋ

[@Call_Me_LiaB]

I was just gonna say that. 😊

[@TheTinyOrc]

The last time I heard of a KDrama was big bang.

[@adanpaulino3487]

Can’t wait for Anthony Lee’s big day tomorrow🤣😂

[@somchinevang1220]

Parking is back! Lmao

[@Justanybodyelse7]

Calculated rebranding 😂 - like that Edit: but for the chris brown stuff i could ☠️....

[@kaleighcoutermarsh4922]

I just know my favorite genius is gonna cook up a masterpiece in his Genius Lab about all this mess. Min Yoongi is and always has been a good man. It's really so sad that they would do him like that when he's been very open about his past struggles with depression and self harm and so many idols have committed suicide because of stuff like this. He deserves so much better.

[@ShanaMoe]

The fact that the media was literally prosecuting him, writing things like he drove drunk and hit a person, they were calling him an alcoholic, advocating for him to leave, publishing random cctv and they went SO HARD on him, we were fearing another death in the idol industry. They were saying he can go to prison, have to pay up to 50k$ just so they can blow it out of proportion. They were pleading for an investigation, and when the police called him the media all jumped up on him wanting ANOTHER apology. You know what happened the next day? After 1000s of articles about him DRUNK DRIVING ON A SCOOTER?? Taeil from NCT was announced to leave the group, because he was being investigated for actual SA. ONE ARTICLE, that didn't even detail what the accusations are. The accusations? He was SA-ing a 12 year old for 6 years and filming it :). PLS try and tell me this whole thing wasn't SM ent. trying to cover his ass

[@Calida]

Anti fans are too crazy. Reminds me of that time "fans" protested for Exo member Chen(?) to be removed bc... he got married. The best part was that though they were so loud online, at the actual in-person protest only about 30 people showed up 😂

[@VictoriaLovesMusic]

thing is in sugas case it's not armys so it's not his fans. but in chens case it was his fans.

[@ruthfischer7615]

@@VictoriaLovesMusic It was (probably) Exo-L but not Chen's fans most likely.

[@VictoriaLovesMusic]

@@ruthfischer7615 yeah that's what I meant I forgot solo stanning is normal in other kpop fandoms cause with army its just army. bts don't acknowledge solo fandoms. but yeah not Chen fans but exols.

[@Indigo_gwen]

ARMYs were definitely not the ones that were demanding he leave BTS. It was antis. ARMYs have been fighting those antis and the media for over a month and we actually managed to force apologies from 2 outlets by contacting their advertisers about them spreading fake CCTV footage. We would never demand for him to leave over this.

[@evalorraine8]

A lot of that hate isnt even from his fans. Most of army support him. There were even haters trending hashtags and posting photos of them in cars with alcohol bottles saying they’re doing it for suga (satire.. mostly stupidity) to make him look bad. The haters being fans of other kpop groups. This is why there’s kpop and then there’s btspop. They’re not the same to us armys.

[@findingyoongi8637]

Look at the billboard charts

[@jchikarachu]

Did Ryan just call us weird? ❤ he loves me

[@namunam6730]

It was SM Entertainment fans who sent these flowers and trucks to ask Suga to leave his group. They also planned to send other trucks to cover the news about one of their group members who was raping and threatening a 12-year-old girl

[@gemmahernandezdelatorre9223]

Name is Suga ( from shooting guard the basket position in which he used to play)

[@GabeItchess]

SUUUGAAAAA YESSSS PLSSSS he good

[@happyface2958]

Suga believes flat earth.

[@HIGSOFX]

"SHIBAL NO SIDEWALK STILLLL??!!!"

[@whoisjai]

It's so funny because that fall could've happened to anyone sober or not. Also it's not like he was swerving when driving, you can clearly see him drive straight. K media came at him so hard but they won't give the same energy to idols who come out to be rapists. I think even a few days after Suga's incident there was news that a Korean baseball player was actually drunk driving and I think even hit a family yet he didn't get the same energy suga got. Korean media is so hypocritical

[@Andrew.W.19]

Overall this is the toxicity of K-pop. They treat the “idols” like not humans. They can’t have relationships, programmed to say and act a certain way, etc. The fans are way too obsessed that creates unrealistic expectations for these idols.