summit 1302 cam peanut port 454 in car !

[@swedespeedgarage255]

That thing moves! And it sounds fantastic!👌👍

[@danhealyeverythingoutdoors7105]

Must of missed this video ! Love it !

[@kyle7063]

I enjoy this build and reading what you have in it. Sounds awesome. Runs hard.

[@operatingengineer]

Thanks Kyle ! Not much to it we through some parts on that 454 for my son to learn how to race , I was figuring mid to high 12s but I was off by a second ! 😂

[@kyle7063]

@@operatingengineer Just to ask. Have you ever put/ran that 1302 summit cam in a 454 with large oval port heads? Or even in a 489 stroker? Curious on your thoughts there

[@operatingengineer]

@@kyle7063 no I have not but it’s a very mild and drivable cam so I’d guess it would be on the small side ! That being said it would be a tire fryer in a 496 ! If you look at my other videos I have a couple of idle videos and a driving video when I first got the Camaro running with that cam in the 454

[@operatingengineer]

There was a guy who put that cam in a 496 and a 468 and compared numbers I have to look for the source I hadn’t seen it in a while

[@operatingengineer]

@@kyle7063 I found the dyno test I found on the net a while ago nobody knows who posted it so I’m not sure if it’s a desk top dyno app or actual data but interesting nevertheless! If you came here from my post on FB big block page let me know and I’ll post it over there

[@eugeniopadilla6518]

That’s super badass!

[@dieselapegarage]

Took off like a plane nice keep it coming I definitely hard something sounding a lil different at the end hope everything ok I need my 454 to move like that 👀 🍿💪

[@operatingengineer]

Thanks man! It’s easy to get a 454 to run like that , nothing is right with that motor as far as parts mis match goes! It was just a bunch of parts we had laying around! Oh and the noise was the pinion bearing was starting to go bad! easy fix!

[@dieselapegarage]

@@operatingengineer nice keep it coming locked 🔒 in watching an learning 👀🍿

[@operatingengineer]

@@dieselapegarage I have been busy with my son racing his stock 350 Chevy 87 Mustang GT and I put a bone stock GenV 454 in my black camaro so I can still drive it around while the mk4 🥜 454 was out getting some upgrades, but I want to put the 11 second peanut port motor back in the car! I had 2.19 valves and a real valve job done so we shall see what that does!

[@dieselapegarage]

@@operatingengineer nice definitely drop a vid on that

[@zmac7467]

That looks like it works great! I put a low mile peanut port RV 454 in my 89 sierra with the Summit 1300 cam and it’s a great all around driver

[@operatingengineer]

A lot of people hate on those summit cams I have 4 summit cams and lifter sets in mine and my sons cars and so far so good! That 1302 cam Is very mild in that motor driving on the street you never think this thing goes mid 11s , I just picked up a real clean gen5 454 I have a 1301 for that one ,it has small push rods and 3/8 rocker bolts so I figured I’d stay small with lift!

[@armandopantoja41]

You say gen 5 I got one too just bought it it’s a 1990 c3500 tbi looking to make some upgrades where should I start not trynna go all out just trynna have a cool street truck

[@jeremyturgeon4493]

I got a 65 nova wagon and a motorhome 454 thats going in it. Looking to get a bit more power out of it with a nice sounding idle. I like how the 1303 sounds. Not going to track it more of a street car. Will be running a powerglide any recommendations you can give me on ways to go about it. Looking for 4.11 or 3.73 gesrs

[@operatingengineer]

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[@operatingengineer]

here is the 1303 cam in my bone stock 1988 RV 454 the 1303 sounds better than the 1302 but there basically the same! never ran this one at the track so i don't have back to back comparison on the 1302 and 1303 ,if your using peanut port heads like both my 454s had the motor in the black 68 Camaro had ported 236 heads but the one in the red 69 had untouched peanut ports! if you have the money take the peanut port heads and have 2,19 valves and bowl porting with a good valve job and they will be as good as stock 781s (and obviously a set of big valve ported 781s would be best)

[@robertmayer2071]

track only use the glide and gear it properly 410-456 488 depends on 1/4 or 1/8 if you are going to put plates on it i would go t-350 or 400 years ago i had a pg in my 69 chevelle with a 402 did not like it on the street so made it track only 1/8 mile and used a t-400 and a 4.88 it ran 7.90 with slicks hope that helps ya

[@eddiecahall3824]

That was pretty good run! That was powerful i can tell.

[@operatingengineer]

For what it is it does run good!

[@eddiecahall3824]

@@operatingengineer what cc intake ports on the heads and cc on the combustion chamber???

[@operatingengineer]

@@eddiecahall3824 not sure on the peanut port intakes runners, I ported them some in my garage the exhaust ports are untouched, and the chambers are also untouched and stock 236 castings are usually 120cc+ open chambers

[@eddiecahall3824]

@@operatingengineer ok

[@operatingengineer]

@@eddiecahall3824 never cc’d the runners but I did put them on a flow bench! Intake flowed 272.5 @.450 lift and started to fall off .550 lift and went down to 255.9 @.600 lift thats at 28” vac

[@jacobmarshall2270]

That cam is nasty and it looks like it builds good rpm

[@operatingengineer]

@@jacobmarshall2270 I was shifting at 6000 when I first built (in that video ) but it went just as fast shifting at 5500!

[@jacobjarvis2545]

Nice setup

[@nickthevanman9011]

This car pulls so hard, and the engine sounds like it isnt even breathing hard. I bet this thing has a brutal torque curve.....

[@operatingengineer]

😂😂 people ask how much power does it make? 😂 I have no idea a dyno session is almost as much as the motor cost! But to guess 350 hp and 550 ft lbs 😂

[@operatingengineer]

Did you see the first test drive video on the street! You would never think riding in this car it runs mid 11s

[@nickthevanman9011]

@@operatingengineer I'll check it out!

[@davidvesce]

​@@operatingengineer 320 to the wheel maybe more

[@carlosherrera8541]

What pushrods your using

[@operatingengineer]

Some stock 3/8 ball pushrods, along with stamp steel rockers ! I only run a single spring with damper so it’s pretty easy on valve train parts!

[@carlosherrera8541]

I recently came across an RV 454. I did the cam swap w/lifters and new timing gears. Now I cannot get the engine to turn on. I got fuel and fire. I can only think the rods aren’t the correct size 🤔

[@operatingengineer]

@carlosherrera8541 what cam did you get? My cam is .540 lift and as long as your using the same heads and a cam about or under .540 lift and 236 @ 50 all factory parts can be used and it should start right up! You must have distributor in wrong ! If you put the timing chain dot to dot your distributor was 180* out

[@operatingengineer]

Update time! I have a deep sump pan, some dome pistons, an rpm air gap intake , and I had 2.19 intake valves installed in the heads along with a bowl blend ! If I ever get the time to work on this thing those mods should put the peanut port motor into the LOW 11s

[@carlosherrera8541]

Yes I put gears dot-dot.

[@patton9696]

“What was that?” Lol

[@operatingengineer]

Thinking out loud 😂 it turned out to only be a pinion bearing

[@aftershock2222]

What intake and carb are you running? I have a 454 with peanut heads. I’m looking for a car to drop it in.

[@operatingengineer]

It’s a 1972 qjet off a 350 and a winters chevy 396/375 intake

[@operatingengineer]

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[@robertmayer2071]

cool im running same cam 460 bbc 781 oval port 850 holley in a 73 corvette what rear gear you running 456?

[@operatingengineer]

@@robertmayer2071 yeah 4.56 only because the car had a 283 in it before the 454 ! But the 4.56 are to much for that 454 really needs 3.73 or 4.10

[@robertmayer2071]

@@operatingengineer thanks for reply

[@operatingengineer]

@@robertmayer2071 your motor has 11 second potential for sure!

[@robertmayer2071]

@@operatingengineer i think so as well bottom end was from a ls-6 454 that had a cracked block so its forged crank 7/16 rods and small dome pistons with the 781 oval port heads that had the 2.19/1.88 valve package and a torker 2 for hood clearance nuthin fancy just an old fashion common sence build car has a 308 gear in it now but i do have a set of 410 and 513 gears for it also have anothe rear with 456 gears so some day i would like to see if i could get it to make a 11.90 pass in the 1320 any feedback is appreciated

[@operatingengineer]

@@robertmayer2071 oh man if my car went 11.60s with a 454 and that cam you’ve got a much better motor I didn’t even have 2.19s in my peanut ports so you probably have 75-80 more HP than my motor’!

[@colinjohnson7663]

So awesome, you see people putting 10k into an engine to do what you just did for pennies on the dollar! Plus you can actually drive it on the street without a 1200rpm idle.

[@operatingengineer]

When we put this motor together I didn’t even take the heads to the machine shop for a valve job because I didn’t want to waste any money on peanut port heads! This engine was just intended for my son to get used to racing,the first motor we put together for him was a stock 283 for this car, it went low 13s we figured this junk 454 would go mid to high 12s totally shocked at mid 11s ! And yes it is a super mild driver ! If you rode in this car on the street you would never think this thing is an 11 second car!

[@operatingengineer]

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[@shaneunderwood6887]

Same thing here with 2 motors I did a 289 intended to make power, balance, forged, steel, and cam that pulled to 5,500 then it comes on hard to 8,200 , I lost to cars on the street that I thought were related to slugs, but at the track it gets happy and is totally a different monster , I've finally got the answer to what was a phenomenon to me, it's tire revolution and 0 spin at track, nothing wasted and motor is doing what it was intended to do, slug on the street , runner at the strip , with 391 gear I think it will run well in the street also, gear is tough on street payment.

[@billskalicky5400]

Do you think the ported peanut port heads flow as well or better than an oval port head such as 049 or 781?

[@operatingengineer]

At low lift they do,Below .500 my peanut port head flowed as good and better, above .500 lift the 781 started walking away! For a 5000 rpm motor with a mild cam it’s a great head!

[@billskalicky5400]

@@operatingengineer how has the th350 held up to the abuse of a 3000 stall and a big block? Are you running a huge tyranny cooler?

[@operatingengineer]

@@billskalicky5400 I have not broke a t350 yet (I did break a bell-housing but that was not because of a big block) as far as coolers it has one but it’s pretty small , I do drive this car around but don’t really put a lot of street miles mostly drag strip passes .

[@billskalicky5400]

@@operatingengineer good to know what rpm

[@operatingengineer]

@@billskalicky5400 I usually shifted @ 6000 then 5500 and it went just as fast I left it in drive and it was almost the same a little slower ( 4800 auto shifts ) so when i put this motor back in I’ll try 5000, when i shifted @ 6000 there was no laying over I’m sure it wasn’t making power up there but you could not feel or hear that! The shifts in the video are 6000

[@antilaw9911]

How many rpm you pulling?

[@operatingengineer]

I leave at 2200 and shift at 6000 it has 4.56 gears so it goes through the lights at about 6000! I have 3.73s I’d like to try but have not a chance to try them yet!

[@Julian-em6mn]

What intake are you running?

[@operatingengineer]

1967 396/375 rectangle port intake that someone mutilated to accept a qjet carb many years ago before those intake were worth a lot of money! It was given to me as wall art to hang in my garage ! 😂 so when we put this budget motor together out of parts laying around on went the winters intake along with a qjet I had! This year I have an oval port rpm air gap (should be a better match for the peanut port heads) and a 750 Holley carb to try! Hoping for some low 11s

[@Julian-em6mn]

@@operatingengineer that gives me hope for my peanut port 454, I have an edelbrock performer rpm and I’m hoping to go as fast as your Camaro 😂

[@operatingengineer]

@@Julian-em6mn should be easy to duplicate , very basic combo

[@kobyharrison5593]

What’s the trans? Any idea on hp/torque numbers?

[@operatingengineer]

Turbo 350 with a summit 3000 stall , no idea on those numbers this was put together in the garage , no machine work and put right in the car!

[@kobyharrison5593]

@@operatingengineer this is awesome, I’m supposed to be getting an rv 454 with a Turbo400 to throw into an old D100. I plan on putting a cam/springs and some other stuff on there to get the power up. What did you use to port the heads? Did you reference a specific video or did you just take a dremel and have at it?

[@operatingengineer]

@@kobyharrison5593 No reference I just opened up the intakes and cleaned up the bowls (still have 2.06 valves) guys have said you probably did more damage then good ! BULLthere so small anything helps! That’s all you need ! A cam kit , some decent springs (make sure they are single with damper and 1.800 installed hight peanut ports won’t take a tall spring without machining the head , an aluminum intake, headers and a good carb and you have a tire frying beast!

[@michaelwilliams6922]

So other than the cam swap and lifters ect it's just a stock 454? Also what gen 454? Sounds awesome

[@operatingengineer]

It’s an 86 454 but it has tin shim head gaskets , and the peanut port heads are ported, with rotator eliminators, moly retainers, and new valve springs !

[@billskalicky5400]

How tall are the slicks?

[@operatingengineer]

9x30 Hoosiers with 4.56 that are to much when the car was running 12.0 -11.90 those gears were ok but when it started running mid 11s it was going through at 6200

[@Ghosts_and_Cars]

Wonder what gear would be equivalent with 26” tire. 4.10 ?

[@operatingengineer]

@@Ghosts_and_Cars still to much that’s for sure , it need 4.10s and 9x30s or 3.73 and the 26 “ tire

[@billskalicky5400]

What rpm are you shifting at?

[@operatingengineer]

6000

[@Jacob_Dimarco]

Is it a stock bottom end?

[@operatingengineer]

Yes sir it has engine tech flat tops and stock rods, 2 bolt main , stock oil pan

[@garhpd]

So you like the 1302 cam better than the 1303?

[@operatingengineer]

Yes because it’s a nicer mild idle and I know it makes good power the motor in that video is junk it was a super budget cheapest parts I could find and what I had laying around! It was put together for my son to get used to racing and I had anticipated high 12s but as it turned out it went mid 11s , if you look through my videos there is a test drive video of my black 68 Camaro right after we broke in the cam, car still don’t have the hood on and you can see how drivable that 1302 cam is. (Not that the 1303 wasn’t)

[@garhpd]

@@operatingengineer Impressive as hell. It pulls hard! Do you think the 1303 would be a better fit for 781 heads in a 8.5:1 454? Or stick with the 1302. Happy new year btw!

[@operatingengineer]

@@garhpd Happy new year brother! The reason I went with the 1302 is because of the low compression our motors have ! But the 1303 would be my choice if I had a little more compression and 781 heads! That being said my 454 that had the iron and 236 heads (the one in the red 69) had dish pistons and thick blue head gaskets so that one had about 8.5to1 and still ran pretty good! So if you like a choppy cam go 1303, I can’t give performance numbers because I sold that motor before I got to race it! What pistons do you have and are your heads milled?

[@garhpd]

@@operatingengineer I have .060 over flat tops. The heads have been surfaced but I'm not sure how much. I was thinking about running the 1303 with Rhoads lifters

[@operatingengineer]

@@garhpd 1302 should run good 👍

[@EZurg]

I'll trade you for my beater it would be a good deal for both of us honestly

[@operatingengineer]

What is it I might want to trade?

[@operatingengineer]

Oh never mind I see you have an oil leaking Toyota that you cant stop the leak ! So never mind on that trade I’m good bro! 😂

[@Duwop77]

Whats the gear rartio? That bad boy getting it😁

[@operatingengineer]

4.56 but it’s to much gear it was fine when the car went 12s but now that it runs mid 11s the peanut port heads run out of steam so it barely makes the finish line!

[@Duwop77]

@@operatingengineer I have 4.11's mostly run the 8th of a mile. Last time I ran the quarter. I ran out of gear also. Had to hit the switch to lock up the converter😂

[@Duwop77]

@@operatingengineer Also subscribed 😄🤙

[@operatingengineer]

@@Duwop77 what does your car run in the 1/8 mile ! Man my Camaro would be insane with even a low boost turbo setup like yours!

[@Duwop77]

@@operatingengineer I agree. I haven't been to the track yet with new set up. Its been at least 10yrs since I've been. But back then I believe my best time was a 8.6.

[@oddlyrightoddlyright2475]

Parts list parts list parts list for the love of god and all holy thing please shine your light upon us peasants…lol seriously though did you swap pistons for higher comp?

[@operatingengineer]

Nothing to it really , it’s an 87 454 that was rebuilt at some point so it had .030 over flat tops, stock rods and rod bolts, 2 bolt mains, cast crank, stock 5 qt pan, no windage tray, 236 heads ported in my garage, 2.06 valves factory valve job no machine work , summit cam and lifters, decent single springs 120# on the seat, moly retainers, winters 396/375 rectangle port intake, steel shim .019 head gaskets, 750 qjet carb, 3000 summit stall converter, 2 1/8” hooker headers, 4.56 gears ,9x30 slicks , 3600# race weight, bullet mufflers

[@oddlyrightoddlyright2475]

@@operatingengineer awesome man…such a cool build and runs great thanks for sharing…those peanut port head looks like they are worth retaining during a rebuild…I got a 1990 k3500 standard cab 4x4 Dually that’s got a 454 and th400…it was my uncles, RIP….I’m making it into a (fun) truck it’s currently got glitter in the oil but runs perfectly

[@williepelzer384]

Can't believe everyone is so wound up about this , nothing new same combo in the early 70 s. Probably the biggest difference is the tire technology, and Sicky tracks.

[@operatingengineer]

@@williepelzer384 yes in the early 70s everyone had rectangle port heads or big ovals ! Your right no big deal. the thing that most are making a bid deal about as you say is the fact that this motor has neither rectangular port heads nor the big oval heads of the early 70s this motor has the tiny port truck heads from the late 80s early 90s with small 2.06 valves and huge 120 cc open chambers! So unless you know how restrictive they are of course you would think “it’s no big deal”

[@pernellburchnell4359]

Was there any concern with PTV or valve guide clearancing done with the dished piston engine and the 1303 cam ?@@operatingengineer

[@kevwmobile3238]

Should just go ahead and point the camera at the roof next time.

[@operatingengineer]

The reason the Camara was like that is I have a stock oil pan with no windage tray and a guy with a 454 on a forum spun some bearings and on his video he noticed he lost oil pressure on the leave ( he had a stock pan as well) so I wanted to make sure I wasn’t have the same thing going on! And That’s why you can’t see down the track ! 😂

[@llaurita2]

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