Summit1g Reacts: Streamer BANNED For CHEATING Tries to DEFEND Himself LIVE!

Summit reacts to streamer being accused of cheater after already being banned in Tarkov during a tournament & gives his thought on some of the clips!
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[@Jaacccckkkkkkkkkk]

Nail in the coffin was deleting that memory execution thing from his device manager. If you are legit then you know that everything in your device manager is legit. There would be no need to uninstall something. He pretended like he didn't see it, switched screens, uninstalled it even though he later claimed he didn't know what it was (meaning he didn't know that it could've rendered his PC unusable), and then turned the screen back on to gaslight the other guy saying it was never there. He knew he was guilty so he knew there was a possibility of something showing up.

[@T_A_P_P_U]

also like. I wanna see a guy who goes through device manager , plays tarkov alot but knows everything that is in the device manager and what it does.

[@mphillips5064]

"I didnt see it" then admitting to "I deleted it".

[@boringshawn33]

Except some CPU's have it by default. Still sus he deleted it probably thinking it was linked to his cheats, even though it wasnt. Just shows he panicked.

[@nasu4738]

@@utubein2024 yeah i got a ryzen 7 2700 and i got the direct memory access controller there aswell, but i wouldnt dare touch that shit since i dont know whats gonna happen to my pc.

[@THEMONSTEREXE]

Ryzen 7 3700X and I also have the DMAController. Google it and you'll see it's a process for transfering data without the CPU. Not cheat related.

[@austincrews7575]

Imo, one of the biggest signs is when the player knows exactly WHEN to be cautious, knows exactly WHEN to wait, and then haphazardly moves very sloppy in every other moment.

[@TheMadden]

Yep

[@ethantsai8261]

Yeah the clip on reserve and woods, he is certain of when to stop shooting and that he's not in any danger. On interchange as summit pointed out he didn't gaf about his left side at all. Just hyperfocus on vulnerable targets with no worries in the world for his own positioning.

[@HellDuke-]

While it is a red flag, I don't like using this logic when considering someone a cheater as it requires a very large sample size of games. Something I teach my friend when we play is to be more aggressive in certain scenarios and he just responds with "Well what if someone is covering that angle" to which I just say that he's dead either way then, sometimes you just need to take risks and hope you do not die. The downside is that while it's not a regular occurrence, quite rare in fact, you will indeed die to the "what if". To me the snapping is the biggest ones, even with the twitch lag, the moments where he snaps and why do not make much sense. For example that guy on reserve, why snap when they are hidden in a bush where you have no hope of knowing what they are doing and not the moment you spot them out in the open (I also was looking at the crosshair the first time and saw the blur in the peripheral)

[@ethantsai8261]

@@HellDuke- In this specific example we know he is a very experienced and skilled player supposedly meaning we don't need as big of a sample size. His decision making and game sense are not natural and the stats back that up. When I've watched a really good player like for example WillerZ in the past, when he's aggressive or confident it seems only like that, confidence. When I see this guy play it's closer to a predator with absolute certainty, not confidence. You see this behavior a lot with cheaters, they have a sense of absoluteness.

[@xxArsen1xx-OnPsn]

Exactly. As a non tarkov player I watch the intro thinking "man, escape must be legitlegit, look at him cutting the pie and clearing corners, is this how it's played all the time full swat mode?! Sounds exhausting"... like no, nobodies playing like that all the time 😂

[@Seargentmyself]

When he played with a headcam and suddenly became a clueless rat, then switched to a desk cam and was back to his chadyness

[@smokeyislove469]

yeah.....was like nadia at lan, or forsaken. 🤣

[@Toxodos]

the deskcam is so obviously cut off so that he can still have a right monitor, and somebody pointed out that early on you could still see the mount of it on the wall above the main lol

[@Snootch]

@@Toxodos I'm pretty sure he does a full sweep in one of 10IQ's videos, it's like two desktops stacked on one another to his right, I didn't get a good look, but I'm more convinced he's using a tablet or something in his lap since an extra monitor to his left or right is way too obvious. Which is why he won't do a full back cam, he won't have anywhere to hide his ESP device in his lap or anywhere around him.

[@TheVoidxi]

@@smokeyislove469 lmfao, just imagine someone who is actually good at the game cheating.... it's almost impossible to tell.... one of the biggest giveaways i've ever seen personally is the ability to be in an active engagement while looking off of a screen to find out where the bullets were coming from.... 4.5k hours in tarkov and not once have a been shot at and been able to look off the screen the game is being played on to figure out where they might have shot at me from. Even when i stream i don't ever look at my "chat" after being shot at..... most "creators" are glorified cheaters that hold an audience of people that mostly don't even play the game they are playing. at least that's how it feels.

[@Rez_nick]

LMFAO he became "Suddenly_Scared" when he had the headcam. Dude just forgot how to play Tarkov and was scared of everything that moved like a new player with 20 hours LOL.

[@1745pacman]

That vaulting tracking is nuts

[@tinychamberz]

yeah. how are u supposed to explain that haha

[@alwaysincoherent1950]

@@tinychamberz Aimbot + wallhacks lmfao its quite literally the only way. 90% sure his "oh" was him realizing deep down that he fucked up.

[@zekesunna2003]

@@tinychamberz if you go frame by frame you can actually see his head in the crack on the busstop for one frame and that's through a twitchclip that's viewed by summit on twich and then uploaded on youtube so it could look very diffrently from his actual pov but tbh he prob just saw that his hacks said that he was "visable" and therefore said that he saw him because he is a little sus but i don't think it's impossible that he's legit

[@Astelch]

he perfectly tracked him and started the "theres a third" before he could even see the guy. What a loser

[@DojuOG]

@@zekesunna2003 Which crack bro? Theres no crack there.... You cant see that dude at all untill you see his feet... Hundreds of people are in agreement thats the first contact. But somehow they're all wrong and Ole Zeke in the comments on a 3rd hand quality video spots a face in the crack?

[@sgtdezy1780]

the fact that he was officially banned he probably shouldn't play escape anymore. ban evasion is cheating.

[@deadscav]

also against TOS

[@MrKingglenn]

unfortunately BSG doesnt consider this ban evasion. per their own statements.

[@tonycowham801]

​@@MrKingglennto get people to spend hundreds on a 55$ game lol

[@RateZell100]

So what? Many top tarkov streamers gang up on people and put pressure on BSG to "act" and they acted to make them and their viewers happy. Happened to many players.

[@Lithane97]

Pretty sure BSG literally says the banned people can rebuy the game in the email they send out to banned players, they're not gonna cut off that source of income 🤣

[@10IQGaming]

Suddenly_ToastTVs Tarkov streaming journey (for those who are not aware) -plays and streams to 2 viewers for a year -suddenly one day has better stats then the best streamers in the game -joins streamer competition -takes second place in 6 days -gets called out -blames twitch quality for the suss moments -deletes evidence -claims everyone is only saying it because they are jealous that he is winning -gets banned -buys new account -continues playing the same -gets called out again -blames twitch quality again -calls me a clout chaser for making this video - present day --------------> #BanToastPleaseBSG

[@mr.doctorcaptain1124]

Remember that female COD streamer who got caught cheating at a LAN tournament but activision won’t ban her? The sad reality is, if someone is bringing in the views, the devs don’t really seem to care.

[@MrWatchowtnow]

I wonder how many of the best streamers are cheating? In COD , cheaters are allowed in tourneys , then on LAN becoke terrible campers.😂 Stop being pay pigs you weird freaks. Go give money to a church and save some kids instead.

[@drinkmorecocacola]

willerz next lmao @@mr.doctorcaptain1124

[@robertcochrane2671]

@10IQGaming I just want to say I'm glad your hard work is starting to get noticed by people. This degenerate needs to be perma banned and destroyed in all ways. Well done man.

[@CallMeTopes]

@@mr.doctorcaptain1124 hes not bringing in views though. hes not even a big streamer.

[@chrisweird1566]

interchange clip is enough proof, people are thinking too much.

[@Slaughtermayne]

People who cheat in video games will cheat at anything. People who do this and then go to any length to cover it up and lie about it should be considered mentally ill.

[@Unreelme]

They have integrity disorders, and should seek therapy.

[@fixthat3269]

In single player games like whatever have fun, against other people is scummy. Funny enough a lot of people who play competitive shooter do have some issues be it mental or behavioral, of course there's chill people too but we all know a guy who does too much I'm just saying.

[@dkn1055]

It IS mentally ill.

[@TiagoSilva-rv2ws]

I’ve cheated once playing nba 2k on pc because everyone was cheating and the game was unplayable, it was the least fun I had playing a video game. I don’t get how people cheat on a daily? Just to pretend they are good?

[@KronStaro]

actually most people will cheat at anything if given a chance

[@MacGyver42Gaming]

Cheaters are a sad bunch of gamers, I feel bad for the lot of them. Imagine being SO bad at a game you ruin it for yourself and everyone else. Ggs to those who play clean and aren't bitch made!

[@PinHeadSupliciumwtf]

I played clean and bitch made so I stopped playing.

[@dano1307]

i have to wonder how its fun for them. I can see it being fun for a few hours but its like when you activate cheats in a single player mode, the game gets old fast. I think they eventually convince themselves that its not helping that much so its no big deal.

[@GODHATESVANDAL]

there are a lot of sad gamers then, cause i read somewhere that 1/4 players is a cheater. thats a lot

[@MacGyver42Gaming]

That's sadly very true, however, not all sad gamers are cheaters. Just the sad and stupid ones.

[@GODHATESVANDAL]

@@dano1307 this got to be it man.i dont get it either. or they change games too fast. like every couple of days as if they are on a mission to cheat every game there is but i doubt it. the only other logical explanation i can come up to would be if its not about the game. what if its about writing the cheatmod or how long will it take before they are caught. i dont encourage cheating in any way but for the programmers that write these mods i have a lot of respect. it is challenging to break through any anticheat systems and get a mod working well in a game that shouldnt be modded. thats some good shii . i know a lot of these modders and programmers also do this as practice or fun ,,, but going into the same servers every day to play with cheats,,,, sounds boring

[@elchunkacabra1450]

anytime someone does a monitor cam and its on some weird ass angle you know they calculated that shit to make sure they only caught certain stuff in frame.

[@thehoerscorral8565]

Someone else already pointed it out but he literally streamed with a head cam and was (as expected) complete dogshit and missed people literally passing by in his view, but then after he said that 'proved' he was legit but was too uncomfortable to keep going he switched to this not at all suspicious angle that shows neither his mouse nor the rest of his right monitor he's back to being a Chaddicus Maximus again? What a strange and suspicious set of circumstances!

[@bluehaze3288]

I got a monitor and hand cam and the angle is wacky because my cord is to short for the camera lol I want a wider shot but literally can’t so that isn’t always the case

[@elchunkacabra1450]

@@bluehaze3288there are always outliers and whatnot. but generally speaking, shit is sus

[@marhanen]

​@@bluehaze3288 extension cables are cheap, no excuse

[@millerthomas4331]

This dude has been already banned once and hes back at it again, ban evasion should be an offense too, you cannot reform a cheater

[@aoqia]

Why do people have this mindset? You can absolutely reform a cheater. Think of it like an alcohol addiction or smoking. People can and will stop an addiction. Only thing going for us you have to give a good reason to stop.

[@millerthomas4331]

@@aoqia drugs and booze actually have a negative effect on your health if you abuse it long enough cheating doesn't effect you negatively you get instant gratification with no downsides go watch the interview with valves anti cheat director who used to be a cheater himself, with his own words he never been able to play without cheats because he never learned to aim on his own

[@aoqia]

@@millerthomas4331 Cheating absolutely affects you negatively although most cheaters won't acknowledge the negative side of it until when they realise cheating just sucks. And cheating because you can't aim doesn't mean you can't give up cheating. You just have to learn how to not cheat thus learning how to aim. Everything goes hand in hand.

[@gdgd5194]

Most of rust streamers get banned on daily basis, playing always with new accounts. Even making youtube videos titled "I got banned" and posting it as proud moment. It seems no one really cares if streamer cheats as long as it's fun to watch.

[@Svveet69]

This guy is still cheating lol. This is why people have this mindset @@aoqia

[@bozojoe197]

8.1k hours here... 3k in OG Labs pre inertia, and the last 5k in Interchange only. I can tell you that him ignoring the white tower is 100% weird... Not even a free look to that section is a red flag, then the tracking over the rail during a vault? Crazy... I'm assuming that this was off spawn, so he should have been focusing on the pond section and white tower as he is running to the front of the mall, rather than do some whack ass scan behind him, when nobody could be there. I think he got the pipe spawn at bridge, the closest spawn to him would be gokart track, pond area, below white tower, or possibly back by fence near the collapsed blue wall at highway... Either way, main focus (if he truly has 8k hours like he says) would be pond/white tower... Man didn't even take a glimpse in that direction, but magically tracks someone over 130+ meters away while vaulting, through an advertisement sign and calls them out for having a 3rd before he's visible.... I've been watching this guy play for a while and always thought he was sus from the beginning. What's even crazier tho, is that he is still allowed to play the game.

[@deanfennell9398]

This comment, when you have thousands of hours in a game you know what to do, when to look, how to look etc

[@krofnoops]

Lmao seems like he was surprised when the aimbot auto targeted the 3rd guy instead of the guy he was originally aiming for xD

[@thehoerscorral8565]

Yep, I haven't finished this video but the way Summit is trying to 'defend' him or play devil's advocate; the only explanation for the way the cursor follows the third player's movement as he vaults over the fence or whatever it is, is that he was still holding his aimlock key on the second guy and then the third guy got close enough that it moved over to him. These modern cheats don't just next-frame snap like a cheap cs 1.6 multihack aimbot over to the next head because that would be obvious; they have gotten better and better at simulating a 'natural' movement over to the next head, and we see it in this clip as it suddenly jerks his aim over to the third guy and Mr. Legit here realizes this and panics and 'oh- oh theres a third' to cover it, not realizing how this entire interaction looks/sounds to anyone who understands how aimlock works. This is exactly what caught flusha in that infamous cache clip Destiny showed Summit years ago; he hit his aimlock key for a second to see if someone was around the corner (again it quickly moves his mouse in the direction of a player, not instant snapping like an obvious aimbot) and it bugged out and aimed at the guy across the map for a second and flusha thinking it was going to lock on a guy crouched next to the crate there on his left, just starts shooting expecting a kill but oops there was nobody actually there. Whoopsies! This is all literally the same 'realistic' aimlock function in action. I believed then, and still believe now thanks to the prevalence of openly cheating Tarkov streamers, that one day it'll come out just how many of these 'pro' players from CSGO to Rust to now Tarkov are using expensive private cheats mostly from Europe but now also coming out of China.

[@Azygos1986]

@@thehoerscorral8565I have 6k hours and I think many of the top streamers cheat and hide it. I used to think they were really good and then I started getting good, and I can say that we’re not playing the same Tarkov as these people. It’s very obvious to me, some of my friends are still in the stage of denial. How can the guy they like watching so much be a cheater? Cause he’s entertaining, he’s still a cheater. lol

[@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it]

this is what happened. fov aimbot glued to the another dude.

[@alphaseries7251]

@@thehoerscorral8565 The "defend"/devil's advocate coming Summit isn't genuine, respectfully. It's a literal milking of a cow for time and views. Too much time was spent to realize what was up when the movement was clear as day odd.

[@resgalis2]

first of all u need wh to be able to aim on target true wall but y he 100% did cheat u can see on next clip where he turning on aim bot and it auto target man runing, that wasnt lag that was a moment when he hit hotkey to turn on aimbot

[@Kevin-OC]

10000% hacker

[@MurrayLime]

Clara sabotaging everyone's streaming career...lol

[@TheRealBillix]

Cheater* that guy can’t even code ”Hello world!”

[@MalRak02]

​@@MurrayLimeClara is a menace lol, she won't stop downloading cheats on everyone's PC

[@craigharrison5406]

Those "lag spikes" conisistently landed on an enemy player. That dude is 100% cheating.

[@lil-link]

@0:03 - gotta hit that line real quick first

[@hobievids2006]

VFX Artist here: The monitor on his screen is not his actual monitor. Let me explain: In OBS you he is adding a scene source of his "Clean" video (no cheat software) then OVERLAYING it to his monitor cam . Adjusting the shape and angle so what we see we THINK is his actual monitor. This is what I think he is doing, and isn't actually that difficult to do. I am suggesting that he has a 4th monitor with his clean video. This giveaway for me is the top right corner of his game monitor: you can see some light bleed from another monitor, however it is not reflexing from the supposed monitor directly next to it...the monitor to the right has a very distinct red in the IPS/LCD panel, which would be mirrored in the exact same place if true reflection was occurring. We see a color palate that is NOTHING like the monitor next to it.

[@ga1acticempire50]

could explain why they don't show the mouse in the camera frame?

[@Hathnotseen]

A simpler way is just to adjust the opacity of the esp to be invisible at that distance and angle. Very very easy to do

[@MegaBraden101]

@@ga1acticempire50 that and also if he shows his mouse you would see his aimbot lock without him moving the mouse

[@DennisEldrup]

He can just have a radar on a screen to the left of his main screen. And the aimbot doesn't have to be shown. A radar in Tarkov is so insanely OP compared to faster games. A very good CS2 player can beat an average wallhacking player. In Tarkov it's the other way around.

[@DeadKaspar]

DMA is used for AMDs smart access memory (SAM), to access more then 256MByte of GPU memory at the time, which increases performance. DMA is also used for Radar cheats (to extract the info directly from RAM), but every PC has a DMA controller (like shown in the video), to retrieve data from RAM and make it accessible for the CPU.

[@gdgd5194]

People buy ram extensions that store a copy of main ram and use DMA to read from that :d

[@yurilopes420]

lmao yeah i literally have that on my pc as we talk right now i have a 5600x and a 6650XT with SAM on and like, this is 100% proof he's cheating 😂😂 if im proving i dont cheat and i see that there, im keeping it there because i dont know what it is and its most likely something important because I KNOW IM NOT CHEATING dude is so scared of getting caught that he self reports by deleting something that ANY legit player wouldnt delete

[@DeadKaspar]

@@yurilopes420 Yeah, even Intel PCs have a DMA controller, every PC has it. It's just needed so that the CPU can read from RAM. But bc of this special AMD feature (which comes with their drivers) you see it as a device in device manager on AMD PCs. But @gdgd5194 is also right, you can use this feature to read stuff from RAM (or a copy of your RAM) directly, and no anti-cheat can detect it directly, only indirectly if it checks for other apps running in the background. So it is a bit suspicious is you don't use an AMD CPU (it works also with AMD CPU and nVidia GPU combination)

[@cinchmccoy]

interesting cause i am running all amd system with sam enabled and no dma showing up on my task manager

[@gdgd5194]

@@cinchmccoy It could be turned off in your bios. Turn it on to have more stable framerates in games.

[@raykzzz_2321]

15:45 Think of that lag spike sort of like the binaural audio pop. The pop is a legit bug, but you hear it every time a player comes into your players radius. His assumed soft lock reacts the same way, when there's someone close whatever program he is using auto detects the player and spoofs some sort of lag spike to hide the fact that he is using some sort of cheat. Cheaters will think of anyway possible to cover up tracks, the first two clips are pretty sus, but the lag spike could be over looked, but with this clip it has to be a soft lock deal. Plain as day, it looks like a normal lag spike once again, but then flanks a little bit to get a good peak knowing the player is there from the lag spike and then gets the kill.

[@ainokea808kine]

I've literally been stuck in that area in That ideal entrance for like 25 mins not able to leave because all sides were watched by multiple partys... ultimately I died... that entrance is terrible.. it's like he knew it was clear to begin with...

[@LH-nd9qg]

Don't really play this game b So hard for me to say but I know on dayz it's clear as day to me. A guy doesn't just walk through the pvp spot and not even check his back 😂

[@xratedv3965]

no 100% your right , its not what he looks at its what he doesnt look at . why look when he knows its empty because hes walling

[@dkn1055]

@@LH-nd9qg Pretty much. A guy who is "good" at the game at least, noobs will do noob things but this guy had stats better than willerZ

[@Cyb3rAssassine]

The problem is, cheaters encourage legit players to cheat. "But he also does it" argument like in kindergarden.

[@enderman95]

Its more like steroids and baseball. We need them to be able to compete at all these days. (That's why I use SPT)

[@3a3ylon81]

Please no, not such stupid argue, you 're rigth about one thing, we're not in kindergarden anymore, and your parents have told you that nobody cares what other kids are allowed to do or not, it doesn't work this way.. So no cheaters do not encourage anyone to do like them, unless you 're looking for an excuse for cheating yourself?!!! like all the cheaters do...

[@dudeguy9943]

but youre wrong ... I've had many deaths that were so sus I would have liked to cheat just to get a better understanding of wth is going on .. obv I dont and wont but if I , someone who has NEVER cheated in a pc game ever (only ever gta cheats on story mode) can feel an urge to do the same then MANY others will experience this too and some of those will go for it@@3a3ylon81

[@deforesterd]

Same thing could be said for game breaking bugs like binaural audio popping in alerting you of incoming players 99% the time, being able to vault through walls ect ect. Obviously hacking/cheating is a big deal as well, probably an even bigger one but yea same kind of attitude I mean

[@adambassuni6084]

@@enderman95 thats a terrible argument. 95% of professional athletes in nfl, mlb, nba are doping. the sports would suffer greatly without it, players would be spending an extra 3 months out recovering or injured. cheating in video games has no benefits

[@narwhalguy3829]

the vault tracking is hilarious, at first i thought it was him trying to resist the aim assist, but it was literally his sight being locked onto his head as he vaults

[@thomas-5770]

You should watch his head cam video where he plays with a webcam stuck to his head. 2 different players and plays on dead servers provable by his team mate accidently outing they're playing on "different servers"

[@T0ghar]

With toast, there is probably a monitor behind that cam or on another place out of frame. He was accused of using a DMA device to cheat and had no real defense. He said it was a network card, but that did not look like the one in his PC, he did not take a larger picture of the card in his PC with visible chipsets and E/A ports, ... . Those DMA devices are often used in combination with those cheat maps on a 2nd pc giving the person real time info on enemies and loot, sometimes even with even "better" cheats. He probably did not only cheat, but committed proper fraud using cheats to gain advantages in tournaments started by BSG.

[@bjornekloo]

Yeah he changed the angle of the desk cam, but before he did so, you could see the edge of a monitor mount above his main

[@SKPonr]

The snap to the third guy confirmed it because he didnt have control of his crosshair. Since it moved automatically he got suprised and realise there was another enemy into range of his aimbot.

[@tylerarmstrong1983]

"Just bring it on back" lmao this is why we love summit... so glad he is just himself. Appreciate ya big guy

[@kevinanderson7419]

BSG should post shame clips of the cheaters and call them out

[@R0CKETMVNTV]

BSG never will cause they make heaps of money from cheaters buying new accounts.

[@FatChickenHaHa]

For anyone who wants more information, this is the guy who somehow has 600+ motors in his inventory. If you have a motor, look out for his name on the flea. Sometimes he puts up 3-4 sets of a 75 pack of motors, usually selling for around 8.6 million per 75 pack. It’s way too obvious

[@hannahmonroe3094]

I don't play tarkov, so the context is a bit lost on me. What does this tell you as someone who does?

[@Kingcloudii]

@@hannahmonroe3094 he uses ESP cheats to find the motors and sell them

[@FatChickenHaHa]

you can put up things on the flea market that other real players can purchase, having 600 motors to just sell off hand is not only inefficent (because of how much space they take up) but also next to impossible. He is taking advantage of an item with higher value that no one really pays attention to. finding 600 motors in a full wipe would be hard to do, and that usually is around 5-7 months. they aren't craftable either, so we are supposed to believe that within a month and some change this guy has just gotten this lucky finding motors. I don't buy it @@hannahmonroe3094

[@Dietznutz132]

​@@hannahmonroe3094 motors are expensive. Cheaters pick up motors because they usually spawn outside of containers and wall hack to get them. Real players get them then sell 1 or 5 not 75

[@pariseri1]

@@hannahmonroe3094 Motors are a high end loot item, they sell very well & is required for hideout upgrades. They're also big & heavy, taking up 2x2 in your bag, so usually you carry 4 at most. Another thing cheaters do, is list massive amounts of high-end items that will sell i.e Graphics cards, LEDx. To give you an idea how many you can get in a raid, i've played in a 5 man squad for years, the most motors we've ever pulled out of Interchange was 9. So for this guy to put 600+ motors on the flee market, he's looting more than a 5 man squad somehow and still light enough to walk out of the raid. So basically, by listing huge amounts of items on the flee market is evidence that they are loot vaccuming.

[@BigDan12]

That first clip is 100% proof, snapping to the 3rd guy he never saw right onto his head.

[@ZachM525]

I don’t get how people don’t see the fact he snapped on the second guy the same way. He flicks to the second guy dead center mass behind the sign then back to the original guy before the second guy appears. His aimlock got both the second and third guy.

[@dudewheresmycar6318]

@@ZachM525 People saw it, but which one do you think would be easier to pull up for proof? Use your brain man.

[@Anfa18]

Unfortunately some games have such a prevalent and intrusive cheating community that the actual player base refuse to believe it. Games with a ladder system, economy/RMT or pvp (MMO's, FPS, ARPG's) are all targets for cheaters. However, there are some games where the cheaters thrive beyond "normal" and Tarkov is one such game.

[@JRS902]

Watching this live was sick. Seeing the duality of Summit trying to stay impartial to avoid drama, while obviously being very skeptical and almost convinced of it himself. Classic.

[@MrHeroicDemon]

1st clip - Auto target, that's how he finds people, his gun will always point towards enemies. People did this in CS like 10 years ago to know which direction enemies were coming from. It's a detection, it's not as good as Aim Bots, but it's good enough to make average players play Professional.

[@geoflo5143]

Dude toggled his cheats via rat peddles.

[@KronStaro]

lol you mean they have peddles that they press with their feet to toggle cheats? lololol

[@thehoerscorral8565]

@@KronStaro It honestly wouldn't surprise me at this point; I mean Lvndmark uses foot pedals to mute/skip 777777 spam or other annoying donations LOL

[@KronStaro]

no im sure its possible, i just find it funny that they would actually do that@@thehoerscorral8565

[@EmperorCheed]

You can change the name of the DMA card to an ethernet adapter, GPU. Anything within reason. Deleteing the DMA from DM is very sus. Out of every device he chose to delete that one?

[@simonwest80]

Especially since he "didn't see it" too. So he accidentally deleted something he never saw? 😂

[@declanwells1887]

'Direct memory access' does what it says on the tin, you directly access your computers memory (essentially all its info while running) and display it on another computer/virtual machine making it completely undetectable. He most likely uses it for a radar and like your friend said if a legit person without a dma card sees that on system manager then they are most likely not going to try to hide it.

[@Milhouz]

I mean I haven't touched tarkov and my PC Has it running. Ryzen 5900x here. I do have VMware Workstation Pro installed for homelabbing up things in my free time. So I suppose that's possible. But mine is showing up even when VMware isn't even open.

[@Snacks6o4]

@@Milhouz Yes, but if someone said you had DMA running, would you then delete the file immediately and claim you're not sure where it came from? Probably not, because you would assume it would ruin your PC or GPU in some way. That's what he did, someone said he had DMA running, so he simply deleted it. Makes no sense.

[@Smokeyd187]

@@Snacks6o4 Yeah im AMD and seen i have DMA in device manager. Didnt delete it because my first thought is "Well i dont cheat so that must be there for a reason". Theres plenty of things that prove Toast is a cheater without even needing to bring up that clip of him deleting the DMA thing anyways.

[@taelandi]

@@Milhouz why do people keep saying this... it's not about the fact he had it, it's the fact he deleted it then lied about deleting it saying "i didn't see it" and "it wasn't there" trying to gaslight the dude that called him out.

[@petersims411]

That shoreline one he looks down at where the player is through the wall before boosting up to shoot him.

[@chrisweird1566]

he claims 9k hours on his main, but doesnt know where 314 is 🤣

[@adambassuni6084]

@@chrisweird1566 is it that far fetched? my mate with 2000 hours only knows where 301 and sani room is lol

[@Rikitangoable]

check him pc@@adambassuni6084

[@chrisweird1566]

@@adambassuni6084 game launched 7 years ago,if he started day 1 your friends played an average of an hour a day compared to this guy claiming to be a tarkov vet. So yeah still seems pretty far fetched

[@chrisweird1566]

He has Kappa on 2 accounts but doesn't know where 214 or 314 is.. Cmon bruh

[@feestinn]

The way he tracked him vaulting the fence is SUPER SUSSY

[@MachinedFace88ttv]

Sussy? Try confirmed

[@deathnz1]

dude got caught with a DMA card months ago, got banned still going hard months later trying to say hes not. aimbots a guy and bugs to a 3rd guy whos behind objects where his aim follows him vaulting🤣 Also DMA cards reads from the memory so you can avoid anticheats. Its not a process on your computer but direct hardware. You then buy cheats that will read that DMA card.

[@gdgd5194]

DMA is detected by vanguard because it got so popular. Now you need more stuff to bypass it :D

[@yurilopes420]

@@gdgd5194 so what you're saying is that vanguard is objectively the best anti cheat even tho it runs at kernel level and every game should have it? league of legends is gonna get it in the near future and linux and mac users will already be fucked by it

[@gdgd5194]

@@yurilopes420 It is by far the best. Yet there are tons of cheaters there. Look up "Hacking into Kernel Anti-Cheats", female programmer explains the situation of cheating in videos games very well.

[@alexzhang9468]

⁠@@yurilopes420league and Val have the least amount of cheating problems companies should probably learn from ruot

[@yurilopes420]

@@alexzhang9468 yeah thats what im saying lmao feels bad cause shitty ass fucking anti cheat you gotta restart your pc if you close it, but yeah it works i guess

[@addlctedtv756]

on the first Video, you can see his hands. when he plays normaly but when he gets fishy his hand position is his left ring finger is locked on a key !! he not moving right so its not D. he only has this hand position when tracking the enemy and the one before where he shoots the post #look at his hands when he scans ., he presses a key to quickscan with looks like the G key from cam , same keypress on the tracking

[@Mr-ZinK]

good spot!

[@blvd6833]

Yeah, as soon as he misses the shot you can see his finger pressing buttons as he locks on the vault

[@Kroos-gn5zr]

lil bro deleted the detection anticheat right infront of him lmao

[@dnkbmc]

The part with the "Direct Access Memory Controller" is SUS AF because if you have nothing to hide, why panic uninstall something? Shows that he has cheats, but that he does not know how they can appear in the system.

[@gdgd5194]

He is dumb cheater, knows that his setup was called "dma something" so he panicked after seeing it in devices, even though it's on most systems by default :DD

[@ReuterL]

how old is he? dumb people do exist, people who incriminate themselves bc of low self-esteem or sheer dumbness. but it adds as an argument when you see the other clips. you cant use it as a proof but you can use it to give you a hint to look more into the other clips

[@noticer3721]

@@ReuterL The clown actually claims to be an USAF serviceman. To top off all the lies he's spewed, who in active service has time to stream tarkov 11 hours a day?

[@dnkbmc]

@@ReuterL To add to the argument (though it may be written off to "preference"), he is using Windows 10 not 11. DMA devices are harder to use on Windows 11 because of TPM and other security features, so cheaters usually stick to Windows 10.

[@newp0rt]

@@ReuterL yeah idiots panic and incriminate themselves all the time. he couldve easily thought that "oh dma looks sus they are going to think im cheating" and deleted it which in turn makes you look more guilty. i think hes cheating but that scenario isnt that damning. hes just dumb,

[@Hagenater]

He was also selling 4 packs of 75 motors on the flea market last week. Along with 50 gpus and like 70 tetris

[@9BallBory]

I mean that interchange clip Is all the evidence needed

[@coopers1716]

If you aren't a hacker you likely don't know that DMA stands for Direct Memory Access and would rightly assume it's just some Windows process that runs in the background.

[@NobodyReallly]

Summit is nice and doesn't want to burn people (least of all himself kek). Plus no one in his position would want to be wrong unless you had UNDENIABLE evidence. Even though dude is 99.9% likely a cheater Summit is just playing switzerland and letting the clips speak for themselves, if you know then you know.

[@BovineIntervention]

I like the part where he says it "twitch lag"

[@rickardsvensson7097]

​@@BovineInterventionWell in some of the clips where it did seem to "lock on" the stamina bar did actually jump aswell. It didnt in all, but in some it did. This makes it more than possible to be a Twitch problem and should be concidered. He also "twitching" while running in some clips. It has to be concidered in situations like this. If you dont see it live irl. You can not accuse someone if there is a chance something else is of reason. Though, do I belive hes cheating? Yes. But is there a chance he isnt? Yes there is.

[@jelteghtc]

Yeah and he also probably doesn't want to get sued for slander / defamation of character. Streamers must be as neutral as possible because everybody has eyes on them

[@chiwa566]

he also aiming on the 2 guy :D without info then on 3 the same

[@doloran-]

I was watching Suddenly_Toasts stream for days during the streamer challenge and I'm 100% sure he was cheating. When he went live after to "prove his innocence" it looked like a completely new person was playing the game compared to his regular gameplay during the tourney.

[@Zorororonoav1]

Don’t even need to know. Suddenly toast.

[@donjonson1748]

It's enough to see how the guy plays when he can't cheat because he has all the screens in the picture, or after his ban where he tried to play without cheats for 1-2 days. The guy was below average in Tarkov. Before the ban, he was supposedly one of the best in the world. You don't need to watch how he shoots people he can't see...

[@eddier155]

You're certain he's showing all his monitors on his cam? Super easy to have another that's not included.

[@TheSaintsLegion]

My thought is that he has another monitor to the left of his “main monitor” he has that front monitor for show to “prove” he isn’t cheating, but in actual fact he is using the monitor on the left out of view of the camera with his cheats on

[@mig0150]

I seen a clip of him doing a wide sweep of his setup with the webcam showing no other monitors but interestingly the webcam/webcam holder itself had a shadow like it is a laptop or tablet, so that may be the screen we are not supposed to see

[@bobh9492]

Toast said his head cam is mounted on a oculus… an oculus …. That can receive a video feed… that we don’t see

[@Lolatyou332]

Yeah it's obvious. If he was legit it would be a full on camera behind him to see EVERYTHING. The fact he doesn't show his mouse either is sus, because it would help to detect if he is using aim cheats for tracking.

[@JohananStarGiver]

If streamers can cheat like this, imagine how many 4000h players are cheaters

[@YehNahYehAyy]

I also have that thing in my device manager without having a dma card, but the fact he deleted it means he had something to hide.

[@zaster500]

Nobody on EARTH is playing like that if u doesnt know where the Players are with those Stats and that consistensy,,, He is sometimes just sitting there NOT Moving Open field On a hard Traffic spot and u know there is a spawn behind him. And he is the calmest confident guy on Earth :D There was also a Video about him playing with a headcam and he was playing like a beginner .. he instandly changed his hohle Playstyle XD

[@gdgd5194]

Every single "competitive" rust streamer plays like that.

[@zaster500]

XD @@gdgd5194

[@07Hawkeye]

also as far as the direct memory access controller, i have a ryzen 5 in my computer, checked my device manager under system devices and it's there for me as well by default. what's sus is that he changed screens and all of a sudden it isnt there for him anymore

[@Snootch]

Toast gives a bad name to Soldiers. Dudes, gotta cheat in a video game to feel big because he's probably stuck somewhere packing parachutes or some other type of grunt work. Also that snap at 10:50 is also a clear 100% sign of an aimlock. The snap is way too robotic and there is zero deviation when it locked into place. A normal person would not be that precise nor would it actually look like that when you flick.

[@mikeholm4455]

guy is sus af but those snaps are not 100 % proof of anything, if you think that you are naive. an aimbot snapping to someone will not make the stamina bar snap with it, which was the case, it looks like a snap because there is missing frames, if you sweep your mouse smoothly 180 and cut from first to last frame it will look like a snap but it really is not the interchange clip on the other hand is very weird and the only thing in this whole video that resembles some kind of proof

[@yurilopes420]

i mean, i dont wanna be that guy but willerz has some INSANELY accurate flicks and dude is 200% not cheating

[@pehztv]

He's playing tarkov for 12-14 hours a day on stream, do you really think he's actively in the military ? He's a perpetual liar

[@mig0150]

​@@mikeholm4455 I was thinking about that stamina bar lag. Could that be from an external program taking priority for a brief moment like if it was an aimbot being brought online, so to speak? It does seem sus that it only occurs right at that moment he snaps to someone. I just know I get occasional micro stutters like that if someone messages me on steam/discord for the first time that day as I guess the program opens in the background

[@fubarexress6359]

He's NG at best. But likely lying. @@pehztv

[@CodexGB]

i have Ryzen 5 CPU, Just checked my system devices and i also have the same 'Direct memory access controller' strange why he would uninstall it..

[@_droL]

Commenting to say at 18:49 I checked my system's device manager (I have a Ryzen 5) and there is a "Direct memory access controller" configured in System Devices, I've never downloaded cheats.

[@stefandjordjevic6883]

same

[@whatyoulookingat77]

same ryzen cpu too

[@zh3nox]

i checked mine, true i have that too. And i know about DMA's but never actually checked my system.

[@the_bear2_072]

@_drol this isn't about the fact that these dma cards exist it's about the fact that he disconnected his dma card before showing whats on it and pretending it was never there. Thats not just sus, it's straight up a nail in the coffin.

[@zh3nox]

@@the_bear2_072 true. How fast was that? Day after? In a heartbeat?

[@habutf]

Thank you for pointing out the scanning and spotting through the Holo. It always puts me under the impression that I am basically blind, because I can't spot anything like that...

[@EXTRA300s]

Respect for Summits behavior in this case. He tried to be neutral as possible, and I respect that A LOT! I think he is guilty AF be course deleting that memory execution thing from his device manager.

[@KronStaro]

he wasnt being neutral, being nuetral is to suspect that type of gameplay with no bias, because its unnatural, Summit was giving the benefit of the doubt of why it may NOT have been cheating, he was basically playing a lawyer for a serial killer.

[@None-lx8kj]

@@KronStaro On top of what is already a dumb opinion and a dumb comparison, are you suggesting that serial killers don't deserve lawyers?

[@zMajicz2]

@@None-lx8kj Personal opinion here, If they are caught red handed with legitimate evidence (ie Like the two "gangsters" at the Super Bowl parade) then no. No Lawyers, just a meeting between Judges to determine the severity of the punishment. Any shadow of a doubt, even a hair and it goes to court properly. I feel countries waste WAY too much money on cases where their is no shadow of a doubt.

[@aftermaththeog]

as a Ryzen user, the Corsair bus is what the motherboard uses to control the CPU fans, and what ever other fans you choose to install in addition to the CPU fan. It's just a driver that allows you to use the Software that controls the fan speed as well as let you monitor the speed and temps. it's basically the CPU control panel. If anyone was wondering and didn't feel like searching for it.

[@austinkelly5661]

I saw this guy selling 300x motors on the flea, packs of 75 for 8 million rubles. crazy summits watchin him cheat

[@TheGoldPrecision]

the zoomed in photo of his pc in the background with the pin holes and screws had me dying lmao people are DEDICATED lol

[@R-Nold93]

i hope people that donated him money will sue the shit out of him. and i hope bsg would sue the shit out of cheating people too.

[@gdgd5194]

Lol, they will donate even more. No one cares if favorite streamer cheats or not - they watch his godly skills and wish they could do same :)

[@Creme_theDON]

If someone on a intel CPU opens device manager to show other devices. It will say PCI Device and that's normally a DMA board. I had a streamer show his and he tried to play it off saying it was his GPU. GPUs show up in Display Adapters. They Twitch stream is NuclearFPS

[@shake4259]

Chill chat, summit knows he's cheating and is just trying to avoid everyone attacking him

[@bradyg3876]

The lag snap is caused from him toggling the cheats. He is snapping, but there is also a processing delay caused by the aimbot being enabled. Which causes the slight lag in the stamina bar

[@gdgd5194]

You dont need a second monitor to be honest. Weird mouse movements indicate that he probably setup an interactive cheat with mouse movement, something like pros used to do in CS:GO (fnatic cough cough). Enemy nearby? Mouse gives signal by tracking or wigling a bit to the direction of enemy^^ You can come up with all kinds of ideas if you can read enemy's coordinates in memory :)

[@blakebodaciousFTW]

that first clip he also tracks the second guy but he runs to quickly from right to left. his gun went right but he pulled it back left to take the shot.

[@Shu77el3c0ck]

Summit L here. The Interchange clip alone shows everything and the way the guy was writing in chat gave him away xD

[@sm0akable]

I feel like he was trying not to cause a witch-hunt when the dude appeared in chat. Would look very bad on Summit even if the dude is cheating

[@CrityCrit]

Yeah I think he’s afraid cause his audience size to get people to target him so playing devils advocate you know.

[@tinychamberz]

lol. Summit accuses people of cheating on any random kill, but when he has visual evidence hes like naaah

[@korcidiamond3623]

Bro, summit can litterly make his life miserable by saying the wrong stuff. And another streamer is more accessible than some random dude that bought multiple accounts. People can go full hamshit on this guy.

[@TheHipPro]

Nah, chat will think someone is cheating jsut based on a single snap. you'd be suprised how many people look like they are cheating when they aren't. not saying that this guy isn't cheating but you should be careful when making accusations.

[@joebaker5305]

The tracking in the beginning is he had an aim lock key. He toggles the guy he’s aiming at but the third guy is closer so he locks on him. Watch timeisbutawindow. He catches aimbot all day

[@fix_iwnl]

I don't care who you are or how long you been playing this game and or if you've played other professional skill-based games like Counter-Strike you're still not moving your Crosshair and stopping it that fast within one frame. I also would have agreed with Summit if his stamina bar jumped but it didn't jump at all! The clip where he tracks the guy that vaults and the clip where his Crosshair snaps to the guy on the right side are some of the most damning evidence I have ever seen when it comes to a cheater. And I would like to know why he only felt the need to say "oh there's a third guy" until that point. When he hadn't seen a third guy whatsoever!

[@gdgd5194]

Every single "competitive" rust streamer plays the same.

[@eddier155]

His explanation on the 3rd guy was he meant to say, "Oh they're heading inside" but changed it to "Oh there's a 3rd" midsentence. Somehow his mouth malfunctioned. Then he deletes a random program in task manager that cheaters use because he's "stressed", never looks towards Power to check for players and stands motionless for an ungodly amount of time at the bottom of the high traffic stairs without looking anywhere but straight ahead, maintains a 25 KD ratio and has a cheat ban from BSG under his belt. But we're supposed to give him the benefit of the doubt about cheating now? This is logic that only his Mommy would accept.

[@noticer3721]

@@gdgd5194 Not even remotely.

[@gdgd5194]

@@noticer3721 Blind fanboi detected

[@Killin_365]

I’ve never played Tarkov, but that last clip where he was popping ppl through trees, I never saw either of those guys.

[@YouOnlyIiveTwice]

This guy isn't cheating. I bet he just has a really good gaming chair.

[@sharkpan6182]

The main problem is that Nikita can't detect those cheaters, and some of them even played more than 2k hours. What an anti-cheat feature, lmao.

[@RelatableGamingClips]

The part that hurts the most watching this is how much summit says stuff like, "but that could be legit." Yet the guy done the most un-human snap to a guy that you could not see... Like yes, it's great he tries to find if the guy is legit or not, but I feel like so many cheaters that are popular get away with it because people like summit think that it's possible for someone to track a dude behind a wall without seeing him.. I know there are amazing, pro level players out there but it's really not hard to tell when a guy is walling or soft aiming. It just hurts watching as summit goes, "well maybe he did see a pixel of the guy's foot and snapped, then he somehow tracked him." Like no, the dudes straight up cheating, no need to try defending it. Which I know summits just looking at both sides of it, but why make up defenses when the person is clearly cheating. idk, maybe my opinion is wrong, but in the past, I have seen countless "pro" players that look super sus yet people make up the wildest defenses because that person is a "pro." It's like when a twitch streamer is doing really sus things that small community calls them out for and has clips of the weird things, but the chatters that sit there for 24hours can't help but defend their streamer because, well, it's their favorite streamer. Oh it also reminds me of how when a streamer will do the most insane, sus kills in a game and the chat goes crazy and does not question it, but the poor guy that does not do streaming and is just a great gamer, kills said streamer and the entire chat and streamer say's the guy was cheating. As I said maybe I see things wrong, but I do see it happen a lot.

[@gdgd5194]

That pretty much sums up streamers. Especially rust. Most of their streamers are blatantly cheating but since the audience are let's say, not the brightest part of the Internet, they do exactly what you described.

[@RelatableGamingClips]

@@gdgd5194 yep, and if you say what we are saying right now, they go ape shit to defend their streamer

[@swordyshield]

"but why make up defenses when the person is clearly cheating." the reason he is doing this is that you aren't always 100% sure the person is cheating until proven with a LOT of evidence. Just a couple of sus clips is not enough to confidently say he is cheating. It could be the case that he did indeed see the feet and then put crosshair on the head level and if people were to jump super hard on one clip like that someone could get accused of cheating when they aren't (which is really bad for your rep). Obviously, this guy is cheating because of all the evidence but you should always view the situation from both sides instead of just assuming it's cheating right away

[@RelatableGamingClips]

@swordyshield what you said is fair enough, but there is no need to defend any further from the first clip, if you can't tell the guy was cheating from the first clip, then you should not be playing games, let alone being a former pro/comp player like summit is.

[@deeeezel]

The dma card allows you to directly access software running in memory and modify, it requires 2 computers one to control the dma card and the cheats and the other running the game

[@GhostActual206]

First thing I did was go into that streamers chat talk smack :D

[@tonilazuto3228]

Bro you a grown man 😂😂

[@mrsnup]

@@tonilazuto3228 so is that cheater

[@noticer3721]

@@tonilazuto3228 I''d do worse to him irl.

[@GhostActual206]

@tonilazuto3228 cheaters deserve all the hate they get and more.

[@Casualfield]

Perfect tracking on vaulting guy behind walls was more than enough evidence

[@VDViktor]

So essentially what he’s saying is “ok guys, we’e gonna see a cheater that ruins everything for the rest, but pls let it slide and allow him to keep doing it”. Clown world.

[@janusinjeanus8856]

He's just trying to prevent getting sh*t from twitch. he wouldn't be the first or last streamer to get punished for the actions of his subscribers. People are gonna do whatever they wanna do anyway, he's just trying to make sure people don't point fingers at him for riling up his chat to harass a cheater. Clown.

[@chrisweird1566]

if thats what you took from all of this, you need to read a book or something

[@inportrace]

its because they are both streamers and he must protecc his fellow streamers... its a very wierd culture . the streamers ONLY cared when it affected them an example was the streamer item challenge. then EVERYONE cared that he was cheating making a big fuzz about it, now if you tell em hes still cheating in tarkov they are just like yeah, whatever dude

[@sansars1]

or maybe summit doesn't just wanna hate brigade people because it's against ToS? yes toast is cheating but there is literally no reason for summit to be the executioner, twitch and bsg need to handle him themselves. @@inportrace

[@gdgd5194]

It's just because it's difficult to prove. Same as police - they can literally do nothing in 99% of conflicts because evidence has to be of insane quality. Look at rust streamers, there are millionaires who built their audience of dummies using blatant cheats.

[@psychoticskittle7805]

seems like the lag happens everytime he would see someone. like the third clip whenever he entered the room and straggled across him it lagged

[@shkotayd9749]

Yep. Vault tracking is about as close to 100% sus as it gets.

[@diminacomusic7070]

dude a shotty with slugs "silencer" or appropriate compensator with an optic is low key a highly viable dmr/markmen option in alot of games

[@Jay-gi6oh]

I'm still blown away by that Tarkov Wiggle video.

[@whoiswad]

"Good thing he didn't snap onto anybody during that lagspike" killed me jesus.

[@maciejkrol4820]

on first guy at beggining of clip, as he ads his gun move toward guy that is not visible jet in insane speed and then almost instantly go back to position it was when he start to ads ... just like he briefly press aimbot activating key ...

[@swvader]

Direct Memory Access (DMA) cheat cards are hardware devices that competitive gamers use to manipulate game data without the CPU. They allow hardware components to directly access a computer's system memory, which can increase data transfer efficiency and reduce latency. DMA cards are inserted into a gaming PC's PCI slot and connected to a separate "cheat" computer via USB. The DMA card then transfers data between the two computers without involving the CPU, allowing cheats like aimbots or ESP to run on the cheat computer.

[@hanksyflamework]

that input output delay between his game capture and on his gaming monitor cam is a giveaway, he is using his obs preview window in full screen to fool viewers.

[@swirvkat4830]

First guy: That screen on the "monitor cam" is not his gaming screen. He has a fourth screen with his cheats on it to the right. Their is a significant delay between the clip movements and what happens on the screen on the montior cam. What is actually being seen on the montor cam I think is a full screen of a pop out of OBS for that Scene or twitch or something to that affect. That's my guess.

[@spennyfras3866]

What i took out of this video is Summit doesnt have a bad bone in his body. Guy can make a shitty situation seem ok no matter what and im here for it.

[@brycescott4745]

The "locking is strange" youd need to hit a keybind to "lock" onto something which we do not see him do. Unless he has it bound to a mouse button?

[@Kal-0000]

Deleting that dma driver was probably nail in the coffin.

[@bilbob4g1nz]

There is a monitor to the lefthand side on the clip. You can tell as he has squished the two monitors to the right.

[@Dawz3G]

The only thing I can think of for that first guy is that there could possibly be like a 500ms delay on his microphone which could excuse the "oh theres a 3rd" and the tracking could just be coincidence but who knows

[@rhandycs]

seems to be doing either the classic aimlocking to find people's positions or some kind of radar on another display/phone or perhaps even a sonar esp.

[@TheARehmar]

From the last few wipes, this feels like the most prolific cheating I've seen yet. Nearly an unplayable wipe.

[@soliloquym5473]

what always made me go "now that's odd" is that whenever he's just running and quick scanning, he NEVER spots a guy, but then he'll randomly stop and wait in one spot for 5 minutes staring in one direction and 'lo and behold a guy pops up in the exact area he's staring at! Add on the fact that he very frequently just stands in the most open areas with zero concern for anything around him except one direction for those 5+ minutes and never has anyone surprise him, come up from a blind side, etc....

[@dabinhaler1337]

yeah that spawn he got is a death sentence from so many angles, he brazen

[@aftermaththeog]

also, at 24:40, when the player glances over to the right of the bus, there is actually a glimpse of what to me appeared to be a players head in that direction. It might not be and it could just be the mirror on the car, but perhaps the car model is not rendered for the player and that we in fact see a player through it. It is entirely possible that this is completely legit.

[@tiarlyn]

11:20 I used to be a top 500 Overwatch player, mostly one tricking Widowmaker. (ANd I have played all kinds of FPS's at a very high level. Valorant, tarkov, CSGO, etc) and i flick.. A LOT. Especially on Overwatch. Never have I done such an insanely hard flick in my life. When you flick, theres still a bit of sway/jitter when you land on your target. This guy quite literally just locks on and corrects himself to not seem sus, it's actually really classic for cheats to do that.

[@thomasbedford1258]

11:51 there is 2 snaps the first one very noticeable the second was back to the position he was initially looking at its a small movement but defiantly a snap on player